Forest plantations did not help Ukrainian troops as a shelter in the north and west of the DPR

The number of captured Ukrainian soldiers has increased in the north and west of the Donetsk People's Republic, where Russian troops are attacking from the Zaporozhye and Kharkiv regions, including on the territory of the Limansky district of the DPR, most of which is still under the control of the troops of the Kiev regime.

One of the offensive lines is south of Izyum towards Slavyansk. During the previous day, including at night, the positions of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and national battalions were attacked using multiple launch rocket systems (MLRS "Smerch" and "Grad"), cannon artillery, aviation.

Ukrainian troops are trying to use forest plantations as shelters, as well as to organize firing points with military equipment placed there. Does not help.

As a result of a series of strikes in one of the directions, several platoons from the national battalions and separate battalions of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and territorial defense were liquidated.

Officers captured by Russian troops say that Russian artillery strikes did not stop for several hours, which left no chance for regrouping or retreat. The captured lieutenant of the Armed Forces of Ukraine says that his platoon did not even have time to dig in, but decided to hide in a forest plantation. Part of the platoon was captured.

Serious losses were suffered by Ukrainian armed formations in the Velikonovoselkovsky district, including the village of Staromayorskoe.

Several videos with captured representatives of the 105th Territorial Defense Battalion:

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[Egoza]

The captured lieutenant of the Armed Forces of Ukraine says that his platoon did not even have time to dig in, but decided to hide in a forest plantation.

And why are you wasting your time? I had to give up right away.

[aszzz888]

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The captured lieutenant of the Armed Forces of Ukraine says that his platoon did not even have time to dig in, but decided to hide in a forest plantation.

And why are you wasting your time? I had to give up right away.

Apparently, just like the Nazis during the Second World War, they were promised a piece of our land, slaves ...

[moscowp]

With such participants, as it is now customary to say “information war” like you, you don’t need any enemies.

[Nastia makarova]

what they said is unclear

[moscowp]

I will answer with a quote from a famous movie

[KERMET]

Soberly, if you think about it, they are fighting on their own land.
Yes, and during mobilization they don’t ask
your wishlist

[moscowp]

This is if sober ... We have some commentators, it feels like they are pouring some kind of shmurdyak right in the morning, and let's scribble! There is a golden rule for all time: drink, stay at home and do not enter into discussions!

[dmitriygorshkov]

If sober, then they gave up their land a long time ago. And this fact was enshrined in the constitution. Are you not aware? On their own land, behind a human shield of their own mothers, children and wives, they do not hide, on foreign land, even that is considered a war crime. Don't know either?

[KERMET]

Well, to whom did they give what according to the constitution?

[Evil 55]

Ukrainian fascism will definitely be destroyed ... and we will help the Russian people in this ..

[seregatara1969]

Yes! Want to know about forest plantations in the south of the country? Do they cover?

[Nikolaevich I]

Quote: Egoza

I had to give up right away.

[aszzz888]

There is a systematic destruction of the Ukronazis. And this cannot but rejoice. The more of them are swept away in the results of the strikes of the VKS, MLRS, "Tornados" artillery - the more likely it is for our fighters to survive! Our cause is just, the enemy will be defeated! This slogan is still relevant today.

[Lech from Android.]

In an open battle on the battlefield without cover for the civilian population, the Ukronazis immediately suffer defeats ... otherwise they simply do not know how to fight.
I think the Armed Forces of Ukraine will try not to engage in long-term battles in the open field and will retreat to settlements where it is easier for them to fight behind the civilians.

[mitroha]

They would be better off with such persistence, they defended themselves from the Nazis on the Maidan

[tatarin1972]

Bees against honey?!

[Nikoha2010]

So on the Maidan, all "They are children" were, and now it's time to answer for everything!

[Ros 56]

If not stubborn Nazis, at least 10 years to restore what was destroyed for the stew. Uporotykh immediately to the Gilyak, by the verdict of the tribunal, as after the Second World War. Enough with the liberalist crap.

[Resistance]

There are relatively few stoned Natsiks, the rest are defending their homeland. Everyone for a bite? Your land will burn under your feet after the occupation.

[Ros 56]

Already passed, no need to tell fairy tales. It is felt that you are one of the stoned, go for it, you may be lucky to stay alive.

[Paranoid50]

Quote from resistance

the rest defend their homeland.

More pathos, Romash. You can sob - it will turn out more natural.

[Resistance]

Russian mothers will have to sob more than once even after the occupation, or do you naively believe that everything will settle down by itself?

[Glory1974]

There comes a time when a choice must be made. It will no longer be possible to remain silent and sit out, as in 2014.
Either you are on the side of those who rip off St. George ribbons from WWII veterans, who walk around with a Nazi swastika and sing the SS division "Galicia", or you are on the side of those who defeated fascism in 1945 and are ready to live peacefully, without providing their territory for military bases to our enemies.
Take power into your own hands, do not listen to your drug addict puppet president. It will be easier to deal with you. Neighbors should live peacefully, with respect for each other.
And then no mothers will weep.

[KERMET]

Those who won in the 45th did not wear St. George's ribbons, they wore guards

[Glory1974]

in the 45th there were guards, now they are called St. George. The meaning does not change.

[KERMET]

The guards ribbon is related to the USSR and the Great Patriotic War, the St. George ribbon is related to the Russian Empire, the white movement, and since 1917 it has not been used in any Soviet state award.

[Radius]

Order of Glory. Enough? Badge of the Guard... More?

[KERMET]

Do you understand what you write?

Quote: Radius

Badge Guard

...
Well, what kind of tape can be on this sign ?!
If it’s not at all clear, then study the Order of the Naval NK Navy N 142 of 19.06.1942/XNUMX/XNUMX
there is a clear description of what this tape is and how to call it.
If you glorify the victories of the tsarist empire - St. George ribbons and orders are appropriate there, the USSR had its own orders - do not substitute history

[Glory1974]

glorify the victories of the tsarist empire - St. George ribbons and orders are appropriate there, the USSR had its own orders

By the appearance of the ribbon, are there any differences between guards or St. George? No.
How do you distinguish, is it St. George, this Guards?
Orders and medals have differences. The Ribbon of the Guards on the Order of Glory echoes the St. George Ribbon of the Order of St. George.
Why can't I now call this ribbon St. George's?

[KERMET]

You will not find differences in ancient Indian and Orthodox swastikas with Nazi ones either, but there is still a difference in them.
How do I differentiate? Royal awards (and St. George awards - royal) during the years of the Great Patriotic War in the Red Army were not awarded, so the guards ribbon! What side to the victory of 1945 does the Order of St. George have ?!

[Glory1974]

You have a position like that of Sbebank (we are 150 years old, but another bank took your deposits in 91, we have nothing to do with it.).
Stalin allowed in the middle of the war to wear the orders of Tsarist Russia, including the Order of St. George. And a new order, to replace Tsar George, the Order of Glory was created, on the same order ribbon. Thus, order-bearing soldiers awarded orders were involved in the victory of 45 St. George under the tsar, and order-bearing soldiers of the USSR, awarded the Order of Glory, which replaced the old order. Such is the succession of generations.

[KERMET]

"Sberbank" is just about people like you who are trying to cross the uncrossable.
Will you provide a document, where it is clearly indicated that the Order of Glory came to replace St. George's?
They were allowed to wear it, because it is the same military award, but! ... For past wars and merits. Once again - what does the Order of George have to do with the Second World War?
And this "same" sash has its own name - why change it to something like that? What is the purpose?

[KERMET]

And by the way, about involvement - there are also such participants-St. George Knights as Mannerheim, Krasnov and many others not so famous, you can even google the list, how is it with them?

[Glory1974]

there are also such participants-St. George knights as Mannerheim, Krasnov and many others

If a person at the age of 20 showed courage and was awarded, by old age should he be deprived of awards or what? Awards can be deprived by a court verdict. There were also heroes of the USSR who were deprived of this high rank and imprisoned. Now it also happens that the court is deprived of awards and military rank. And it happens that on the contrary, a military award is credited to a person and he falls under an amnesty.
How does heroism shown on the battlefield affect political beliefs?

[KERMET]

This is a fact on your

Quote: glory1974

soldiers-order-bearers awarded the orders of St. George under the tsar were involved in the victory of 45 years

, indicating that the St. George fought in that war on both sides and the St. George awards had nothing to do with victory. Many of them were convicted by the court and punished, but of course they were not deprived of their St. George awards. The awards and titles of the USSR, in turn, the traitors and accomplices of the Nazis were deprived of the verdict of the court.

Quote: glory1974

How does heroism shown on the battlefield affect political beliefs?

No way, the same Denikin, unlike Krasnov, did not go into collusion with the Nazis, although they persuaded him.

[Glory1974]

Sberbank" is just about people like you who are trying to cross the uncrossable.

Sberbank selectively denies its history, but only as of 91 years old. Is that clear? In the case of the guards ribbon, succession is preserved.

Will you provide a document, where it is clearly indicated that the Order of Glory came to replace St. George's?

I don't think there is such a document. Read history. The Order of Glory is made in the image of the St. George Cross, on the same ribbon and with exactly the same statute. You can consider these coincidences as random.

For past wars and merits. Once again - what does the Order of George have to do with the Second World War?

The George Cross was worn by our victorious soldiers. What does the Mosin rifle have to do with WWII? Was it made under the king? What is the meaning of your question?

And this "same" sash has its own name - why change it to something like that? What is the purpose?

The name was changed because the old award system was canceled and a new one was created. The awards were not named in honor of the saints, but in honor of the generals. BUT at the same time, succession was preserved, and compliance with heraldic rules and traditions.

[KERMET]

Quote: glory1974

Sberbank selectively denies its history, but only as of 91 years old. Is that clear? In the case of the guards ribbon, succession is preserved.

In the people it is called: "And eat a fish and ...." (then you yourself know)
Another well-suited expression: Sit on two chairs. It is this kind of "savings" that is observed when they glorify the victory of the USSR in the Second World War, while "modestly forgetting" about the Supreme Commander-in-Chief or when conducting and accepting the Victory Parade to close the mausoleum with "plywood". OR like this, substituting Soviet names under the guise of succession.

Quote: glory1974

I don't think there is such a document.

I know that not, the USSR had enough of its own awards, and even if similar ones to the tsar were introduced, while maintaining continuity, they bore their own name, why replace these names? What are we honoring - the war of 1905, 1812? some other?

Quote: glory1974

The George Cross was worn by our victorious soldiers

There were some. Has anyone stripped him of this award? Oh, this is "for courage at the age of 20" - then what does this have to do with victory in the Second World War?

[Glory1974]

In the heat of the dispute, the original message has already been forgotten.
I am for succession. And that the country of Russia has been the same for a thousand years, and the soldiers fought for the country under all the rulers and systems, and awards, and everything else.
At the same time, I do not support spitting on Stalin
and drapery of the mausoleum.
From my point of view, I see succession in the St. George-Guards-St. George ribbon.
On the one hand, it’s good if the name of the order has not changed for 300 years, for example, some kind of order of the garter. But since it turned out differently in our country, what should we do? Sprinkle ashes on your head?

[Egoza]

Quote from resistance

There are relatively few stoned Natsiks, the rest are defending their homeland.

There may not be so many stubborn ones. Only now there was no spring conscription, and those who are now in the Armed Forces of Ukraine - all were in the ATO. And what were they defending then? Who did you fight? Now it's time for them to answer for their actions THEN. The boomerang has arrived.

[Resistance]

Instead of conscription, a third wave of mobilization was announced, the Atomic Forces went into the first. Now they are rowing everyone in a row, a double-edged boomerang, those who return home alive, you will have to manage those.

[dimbasic]

scribble ali from Europe from a trench?

[Incvizitor]

It is after the occupation of 90 years that the earth is burning under your feet.

[Retvizan 8]

Yes, it’s not for them to hide in the catacombs of Azovstal. It wasn't long enough.

[riwas]

Forest plantations did not help Ukrainian troops as a shelter in the north and west of the DPR

So thermal imaging equipment and lidar see targets in the jungle, but here it’s just a forest.

[KERMET]

The forest plantations have not really turned green yet, and have you seen a lot of our thermal imagers and lidars? And at what distances do they work?

[Roust]

There is nowhere for the Nazis to hide on the primordially Russian lands, well, except perhaps underground forever.

[Kesha1980]

I don’t know how anyone, but in the training we dug MPL while lying down for a while as an ersatz for shooting lying down. As I remember now - we "behaved badly" (laughed loudly) in the canteen in the morning, so the soil "accidentally" got stony). You dig, you stand in an emphasis lying down to change the type of activity). In the evening, they walked from the shooting range in silence - they "laughed."

[lomograph]

Artillery - it is so ... artillery, in a word.
Not only does it thoroughly plow and loosen, it also agitates audiovisually, suppressing the will to resist.

[Bayun]

Bad, you see, these people are U, since even NATIVE (!) Nature and the earth do not want to cover them ...

[Daverk]

so. hiding behind women and children. hiding behind the trees. there are still cats and dogs left))

[RED_ICE]

You can see by their faces that they are Nazis!

[Alexey Lamonov]

I look at all this and see, we are at war with ourselves.