No panic: there is nothing serious in the supply of arms to Ukraine

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The second call is to reflect on the fact that this is not the time to panic. Too early. Although some Russians were unnecessarily impressed by the rampant reports from the West that the entire Old and part of the New World rushed to transfer weapons to Ukraine that would make it difficult for the Russian army to conduct a special operation.

Yes, there is some reason for concern. More contemporary weapons - higher resistance of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, more losses from the Russian side. And do we need it? No, don't.



But the main nuance: who said that the weapons are modern?


Germany is eager to supply Ukraine Tanks "Leopard 1".


Commendable. These tanks had already served well in other armies and were returned to the manufacturer, Rheinmetall. There is no chance of cashing these very worn cars for money. And then the Armed Forces of Ukraine turned up, who are ready to take everything they give.

You won't have to pay for it.

The British Commonwealth also does not stand aside: "Bushmasters", "Jackals", "Mastiffs" - everything goes (or is waiting) to Ukraine.


Plus AS-90 self-propelled guns, the most recent of which were manufactured in 1995.


We already wrote about how “beautiful” the Starstreak and Martlet MANPADS are. Someone may consider them better than the Stinger, this is a matter of taste.

The only decent product in the range supplied to Ukraine can be considered the Norwegian-made NASAMS air defense system.


A really very good complex, which is adopted in service in Spain, Finland and - surprisingly - in the USA. Moreover, NASAMS installations are used not just anywhere, but in the air defense of a city like Washington.

In addition, the Norwegians are considering the supply of medium-range anti-ship missiles NSM from the Kongsberg company to Ukraine. The Naval Strike Missile is a missile that is as versatile as our Onyx and capable of hitting surface and ground targets. The maximum launch range is 185 km, the weight of the warhead is 120 kg. NSM, in addition to Norway, was bought by Germany, the USA, Poland and Malaysia.

So the Norwegians are the only ones who are going to put something sane and capable of strengthening the Armed Forces of Ukraine. The rest of the world is trying to give Ukraine what is subject to recycling and what is simply unrealistic to sell.

How dangerous is all this, how much can all these “gifts”, for which Ukraine will have to pay anyway, change the course of events in Ukraine?


Western bounties are not at all dangerous. As the practice of the special operation in Ukraine shows, the Russian headquarters are by no means fools. Yes, we have something to criticize the Ministry of Defense for, but in this matter everything is quite transparent.

Today, some Russians (and not only Russians) have succumbed to the idea that by supplying weapons to Ukraine, NATO has actually gone to war with Russia. And from here very peculiar thoughts begin in the heads, often of a panicky nature. Like the fact that Russia will not survive the confrontation with NATO.

The supply of arms by NATO countries, often morally and physically obsolete, is not yet a NATO war against Russia. This time.

And "two" - I will have a small question for those who are panicking: do you even know, gentlemen, what military operations are?

Combat operations are different from computer games in that they require an entire infrastructure for supply, repair and maintenance. We need fuel, oil, spare parts, ammunition. But the most important thing is fuel.

What unites all these "Leopards", "Jackals", NASAMS, even the former Soviet S-300? They need fuel. Without the ability to move, the tank can still be used as a bunker for some time (until the arrival of a helicopter with ATGMs). All the rest are sweet and harmless targets. The S-300, being in a deployed position, can resist. But as the events in Dnepropetrovsk showed, the fate of the complexes transferred by Slovakia is not very enviable. Soot, smoke, twisted metal...

And what's with the fuel?


And everything is fine. All large fuel storage facilities at the regional level, where the Armed Forces of Ukraine stored precious gasoline and diesel fuel in Nikolaev, Zaporozhye, Lvov, Odessa, Kharkov and Chuguev, alas, have been destroyed. Together with supply bases in Radekhov, Kazatin, Prosyanoy, Novomoskovsk.


The largest refinery in Kremenchug was put out of action, its fuel storages were destroyed. They stand because of the lack of raw materials refineries in Lisichansk, Kherson, Drohobych, Nadvorny and Odessa. And only the Kherson NPH has a chance to make money, only the Armed Forces of Ukraine will be neither hot nor cold from this, because Kherson, excuse me, is not quite Ukraine anymore.

Here it is worth remembering that Ukraine received the bulk of oil products from Russia through Belarus. The shop closed, and along with it, oil disappeared, from which gasoline and diesel fuel could be made.

Of course, “winning is our mustache,” and Pan Zelensky delighted the Ukrainians that Azerbaijan is ready to supply Ukraine with a volume of oil that will amount to about 50% of the entire oil market of Ukraine. I am not ready to comment on this statement, because the Azerbaijani side is somehow silent so far. The only thing Aliyev said was about sending humanitarian aid and medicines to Ukraine.

And I have a question: how will Azerbaijan supply oil to Ukraine? Pipelines? Azerbaijan is not rich in this. One pipeline goes to Georgia, two to Turkey. In its continental part, very far from the coast.

It is possible to distill the oil to the Georgian Supsa, from where it is within easy reach to Poti and further by sea to Odessa. Why to Odessa? And in Ukraine there are no more ports left capable of receiving oil products from a tanker.

I am wildly interested in how the tankers of Azerbaijan or Turkey will go to Odessa? Past the Black Sea fleet, which patrols coastal waters, by sea, where all the same Ukrainians threw so many mines that the Turks and Romanians are really on their ears, catching and destroying all these rarities? How?


And in general, where will the Azerbaijanis look for suicide bombers who are ready to go with a cargo of oil products to Odessa? And how much will this shipping cost?

Personally, this operation seems very doubtful to me.

Of course, Poland is still left with its promises, but... If the Poles give fuel, it must be transported, stored, and delivered to equipment. And the APU still has a lot of equipment.

Do you understand what I'm getting at? Yes? Columns of fuel trucks, as in Syria. Huge and long, but capable of drinking tank formations and motorized rifle units.


And here, as expected, the pilots and navigators of the same 47th bomber aviation regiment will enter the scene, having burned down more than one hundred of such fuel trucks in Syria. I think the result of their work in Ukraine will be no different from their work in Syria.


So all these assurances that "Europe will help them" will end very quickly. With smoky special effects all the way to the sky.

Railroad


Many grumble about the fact that the Aerospace Forces are not destroying the railway structure of Ukraine and thereby do not prevent the transfer of troops and equipment to the combat areas.

There is something to object here. In reality, a cruise missile strike or a tactical ballistic missile attack on a railroad is, of course, yes. But each station has track repair equipment and people who are able to make repairs in the shortest possible time.

People of two parallel lines, they are very peculiar. But just as our railway workers quickly eliminate the consequences of accidents and disasters, so the Ukrainian ones will do the same. They will pour it out, lay the sleepers, stretch the rails. The Gospel of Lazar Kaganovich is still working.

There is no point in destroying bridges. The blowing up of a bridge in the Belgorod region by Ukrainian saboteurs will clearly demonstrate this to everyone. If you know what kind of landing on the motrices went to the Belgorod region, to that bridge. And there is no doubt that the bridge will either be restored, or a new one will rise in its place. The Voronezh plant "Stalmost" is already in business.

I don’t know, they handed over the details of bridges in Ukraine for metal, I wouldn’t be surprised if they handed it over. But nevertheless, the restoration of the railway structure is a matter of time.

And if we talk about help from Poland and the Baltic states, then the main communication there is by road. And here, excuse me, the VKS may be against the supply. Burn down a few columns - and everyone on the other side will think very hard about whether it is worth organizing these transportation shows at all.

As I already wrote, both the Su-34, and the Ka-52, and the Mi-28N (especially this one) "see" perfectly in the dark. And that means it will burn properly.


After all, that the “leopard”, that “Zuzanna” is from the generous Slovaks, they are also unable to move hundreds of kilometers on their own. A resource, you know ... And Leo's consumption is not like that of Zaz-Daewoo. So - a trawl for transfer, there's nothing to be done. After all, there are about 450 km from the Polish border to the Dnieper. This is not a joke, so the same Leopards need either railway platforms, or trawls and tractors.

In general, everything is solved. Tractors have already been condemned by strikes on refineries and oil storage facilities, rail delivery is solved very simply: by superiority in the air. And it is very difficult to overcome this.

And if you hit major railway junctions... Or bridges across the Dnieper...

Then, of course, it will not be easy for vehicles to get to the battlefields. Even to the left bank of the Dnieper, where the Armed Forces of Ukraine are gathering forces to unblock the Kramatorsk pocket.

There is no point in chasing trains, it is easier to cover everything at the junction stations. It's not difficult for the Aerospace Forces, or for the rocket scientists.

About the most annoying part


Many did not like the fact that American President Biden, who has been in a rather strange state for the past few years, which I cannot assess, because he is neither a psychologist nor a narcologist, promised Ukraine installations for launching missiles.

It is clear that the launchers themselves are nothing without missiles. And no one has really said yet what missiles Biden will come to share in his chaotic consciousness. Various options are being discussed, from "tomahawks" to MGM-140 ATACMS or HIMARS.


The M142 HIMARS is an interesting mount as it can be equipped with either 6 MLRS MLRS missiles or 1 ATACMS tactical missile. The ATACMS missile of the first models (the United States will keep the latter) is practically an analogue of Tochka U, since it flies 165 km and carries a cluster warhead weighing 560 kg.


News really unpleasant, since the Armed Forces of Ukraine have never been seen in an attempt to use "Point U" on Russian troops. But attempts and applications on civilian objects are plentiful. And it is very doubtful that the Armed Forces of Ukraine will use missiles at "military airfields and military units of Russia." This is true, only in the brain of Biden could be born.

But HIMARS also needs fuel. And the second component - you need to be able to control such complex weapons. It is clear that the same rocket men still exist in the Armed Forces of Ukraine, but ... ATACMS is still not “Point U”, mastered for “five” over several decades. That is, the operators will need to be trained. And this is the time.

Some "experts" argue that since Biden said that "Ukraine will become a battlefield", then American military personnel may also be behind the ATACMS consoles, but ... it is doubtful. As various mercenaries, from Georgian to British, are fleeing Ukraine today, it is unlikely that the Americans will turn out to be such lovers of dubious pleasures, like falling under the blow of Russian military equipment.

The destruction of the Slovak S-300s in Dnepropetrovsk by "Caliber" is the best confirmation of this. After all, their destruction was not even effective, but spectacular: they cut down the detection and target designation stations, after which the launchers were simply useless.

But it seems to me more that Biden again spoke about missiles, being ... in his usual state. After him, more than one high-ranking military man (for example, the chairman of the US Joint Chiefs of Staff Mark Milley) said that American missiles on Russian infrastructure are a pretext for the Third World War, and the US military does not want this.

So such deliveries are generally doubtful, but even if they happen, the complexes must reach the work areas to begin with. And it will be very, very difficult to do this in modern conditions.

***


Air control, pinpoint strikes from both aircraft and ground and surface launchers of cruise missiles, the destruction of fuel depots, transport hubs, railway and road bridges in the border areas with countries supplying military equipment will completely nullify all the efforts of Western countries to equipment of the Armed Forces.

So everything is going in the right direction at the moment. Left without fuel, the Ukrainian army simply cannot do anything. The events in Mariupol have already shown how useless resistance is in the absence of ammunition, food and medicine. It is, shall we say, impossible.

The year is 2022, a war in the image and likeness of the Roman Empire or the First World War is unrealistic. Legs with small arms, MANPADS and ATGMs against tanks, self-propelled guns, aircraft and helicopters - this is not very effective. Rather, on the contrary, it resembles the German Volkssturm of 1945 with antediluvian rifles and faustpatrons.

And we remember how it all ended then, don't we?
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  1. +74
    April 18 2022 04: 26
    Shaw, again?
    In one fell swoop, beating everyone?
    We were told here a couple of months ago how many hours we would take Kyiv.

    Western bounties are not at all dangerous
    the author does not want to check for himself?
    Or are they not dangerous to him, because these "wrong" machine guns, cannons and rockets will not shoot at him?
    1. +17
      April 18 2022 04: 46
      And who told such people from the real decision-makers? Everyone knew perfectly well that this walk would not be fast. And it's not even the fact that they are sent various weapons. And the fact that this is a huge country to clean up which takes time in the dark.
      1. +8
        April 18 2022 08: 38
        Quote: carstorm 11
        And who really told this from the faces

        They just pass off their expectations as someone else's mistakes. So waiting for an answer from them to your question is hopeless.
        1. 0
          April 18 2022 08: 53
          I understand and agree with you. Apparently my question became rhetorical)
          1. 0
            April 18 2022 09: 09
            Quote: carstorm 11
            Apparently my question became rhetorical)

            I have half of the questions like this) If dislikes are not counted as an answer)))
            1. +20
              April 18 2022 13: 18
              Headings:
              No panic: there is nothing serious in the supply of arms to Ukraine
              Don't panic, Kiev be Russian!
              Stop panic. Everything will be fine. Victory will be ours
              Are we all right?
              1. -5
                April 18 2022 19: 42
                How much scrap metal after the special operation will go to our steel mills! In Europe, a crisis of shortage of raw materials will definitely break out ..
                1. +3
                  April 18 2022 19: 46
                  Shaw, again?
                  In one fell swoop, beating everyone?

                  There was definitely no such forecast from our military! Only two months have passed, and already you are throwing dust in the eyes of others! They talked about: "two weeks to capture the whole of Ukraine" - these are MW observers and similar Western "experts"!
                  Train your brain or drink memory pills!
                2. 0
                  April 20 2022 15: 59
                  Quote: krot
                  How much scrap metal after the special operation will go to our steel mills! In Europe, a crisis of shortage of raw materials will definitely break out ..

                  Do not share the skin of an unkilled bear. How the war will turn. After the apocalypse, no one will need these piles of iron. In the meantime, the lack of gas, etc., will stop the military-industrial complex of all European countries. The sooner this happens, the less our soldiers will die.
              2. 0
                April 22 2022 10: 33
                Quote: military_cat
                Are we all right?

                After reading the consolingly urapatriotic pearl, an alarming aftertaste also appeared ... According to the article, we win so confidently and brilliantly under the guidance of wise and insightful commanders that there is a feeling of a parallel reality ...
            2. 0
              April 18 2022 19: 02
              Quote: Lesovik

              I have half of the questions like this) If dislikes are not counted as an answer)))

              Yes ... they are very generous with diza laughing laughing laughing
        2. +18
          April 18 2022 12: 07
          Quote: Lesovik
          They just pass off their expectations as someone else's mistakes.

          These expectations were nurtured by Russian propaganda. Skabeeva there, Solovyov. Who said: "Russia will only raise an eyebrow, and Ukraine will disappear." Now all these propagandists have changed their shoes and sing other songs, but how they poured about a quick victory ...
          1. +2
            April 18 2022 12: 16
            Quote: Hyperion
            These expectations have been nurtured

            I won’t argue, before and now I rarely watch Skabeeva, Solovyov and all the others, due to lack of time. I will only note that in this case "carstorm 11" is absolutely right - none of the officials said anything like that and did not promise anything like that. Well, "Jacket in stock" just caught the hype. And he couldn't answer a simple question.
            1. +6
              April 18 2022 12: 45
              Quote: Lesovik
              none of the officials said anything like that and promised nothing of the sort.

              Not everyone, unfortunately, understands that propaganda does not correlate with reality. No wonder they say: "I would like to live in the Russia that they show and talk about on TV."
              Quote: Lesovik
              I will only note that in this case, "carstorm 11" is absolutely right

              About the fact that none of the officials said - carstorm 11 is right. About the fact that "Everyone understood perfectly well that this walk would not be fast." - is not a fact.
              1. -2
                April 18 2022 12: 55
                Quote: Hyperion
                No wonder they say: "I would like to live in the Russia that they show and talk about on TV."

                I would venture to suggest that the Germans, the French, and the Americans with the Chinese speak the same way)
                Quote: Hyperion
                "Everyone understood very well that this walk would not be fast." - is not a fact.

                When planning, the main thing is not this, but how planning covers various options for the development of events.
                1. +5
                  April 18 2022 13: 39
                  Quote: Lesovik
                  I would venture to suggest that the Germans, the French, and the Americans with the Chinese speak the same way)

                  To a certain degree.
                  Quote: Lesovik
                  When planning, the main thing is not this, but how planning covers various options for the development of events.

                  Yes, what is the main thing here? There are doubts that "everyone" understood this.
            2. +7
              April 18 2022 13: 08
              Quote: Lesovik
              "Jacket in stock" just caught the hype. And he couldn't answer a simple question.

              The jacket was asked about what he did not write.
              And by the way, I answered.
          2. +4
            April 18 2022 17: 45
            Quote: Hyperion
            Quote: Lesovik
            They just pass off their expectations as someone else's mistakes.

            These expectations were nurtured by Russian propaganda. Skabeeva there, Solovyov. Who said: "Russia will only raise an eyebrow, and Ukraine will disappear." Now all these propagandists have changed their shoes and sing other songs, but how they poured about a quick victory ...

            "...there is nothing serious in the supply of arms to Ukraine..."
            Well, yes! "Nothing serious"... Not at all. Maybe he will lead some special forces platoon in the DPR?
            Any deliveries of weapons from abroad to Bandera must be disposed of without delay with calibers, Iskanders ...
            1. +3
              April 18 2022 19: 58
              Quote: vlad106
              "...there is nothing serious in the supply of arms to Ukraine..."

              Such statements are especially surprising against the background of fundraising for the UAZ "Patriot" for the participants of the SVO (for volunteers, not for the army). And here tanks and infantry fighting vehicles are pushing the ukrovermacht. So what, what about conservation and obsolete? Even such a "beha" is ten times better than the UAZ - more armored, more spacious, with a gun. Even such a tank can mess things up and take the lives of our soldiers.
              And in the General Staff, for example, these deliveries are not at all considered "nothing serious." On this occasion, the other day something like an ultimatum was presented to the penguins.
          3. +5
            April 18 2022 18: 44
            And how Kedmi sang as a nightingale! As soon as we go to Odessa, all the Nazis will scatter. Oh well. We see how they fled in Mariupol. By the way, he was asked the same question on Eton TV. Got off.
            1. +1
              April 18 2022 20: 04
              Quote: Rafflesia
              And how Kedmi sang as a nightingale!

              Yeah ... Well, I don’t know about Kedmi, but it’s not the first time for Solovyov to change his “principled” position - a grated kalach.
            2. 0
              April 19 2022 13: 43
              Well, apparently under "us" he had IDF soldiers, and those are not as soft-hearted as us.
          4. +4
            April 18 2022 19: 05
            Quote: Hyperion
            Quote: Lesovik
            They just pass off their expectations as someone else's mistakes.

            These expectations were nurtured by Russian propaganda. Skabeeva there, Solovyov. Who said: "Russia will only raise an eyebrow, and Ukraine will disappear." Now all these propagandists have changed their shoes and sing other songs, but how they poured about a quick victory ...

            Are they responsible for conducting a special operation? You never know who said something at all sorts of Talk Shows ... Neither Putin, nor Shoigu, nor Konashenkov voiced anything like that ...
            1. +3
              April 18 2022 19: 48
              Quote: Alexey Sedykin
              Neither Putin nor Shoigu nor Konashenkov voiced anything like that ...

              They didn't voice it. But propaganda also had to throw less hats. To make words and deeds less divergent.
              1. 0
                April 18 2022 22: 18
                Is the show propaganda?
                1. +5
                  April 19 2022 12: 13
                  Certainly propaganda. It's like you were born yesterday.
                  1. 0
                    April 19 2022 16: 38
                    Quote: Hyperion
                    Certainly propaganda. It's like you were born yesterday.

                    The show is also in Africa the show ... takes them seriously as an analyst? Propaganda and analytics often don't match.
                    1. +1
                      April 19 2022 22: 44
                      Quote: Alexey Sedykin
                      Show it and in Africa show.

                      A show that discusses foreign policy topics is propaganda. Not the highest quality, but someone will do.
                      1. 0
                        April 19 2022 22: 55
                        Propaganda is propaganda...but what does analytics have to do with it. And the analysis of how and what the expected enemy will defend is not propaganda, but analytics, and there is no need to confuse them. It is not at all difficult to understand this.
                      2. +1
                        April 20 2022 11: 25
                        Quote: Alexey Sedykin
                        Propaganda is propaganda...but what does analytics have to do with it.

                        So I think - what does analytics have to do with it? It was about propaganda, which sowed in the minds (not in all, but in a decent amount) the opinion that the NWO would be short-lived. Analytics is for thinking and understanding people. For the broad masses - Evening with Solovyov and 60 minutes.
                      3. 0
                        April 27 2022 21: 59
                        Quote: Hyperion
                        Quote: Alexey Sedykin
                        Propaganda is propaganda...but what does analytics have to do with it.

                        So I think - what does analytics have to do with it? It was about propaganda, which sowed in the minds (not in all, but in a decent amount) the opinion that the NWO would be short-lived. Analytics is for thinking and understanding people. For the broad masses - Evening with Solovyov and 60 minutes.

                        I still don't understand how they compare...
                2. -1
                  April 19 2022 13: 44
                  Now shows with similar themes - yes.
                  1. 0
                    April 19 2022 16: 39
                    Quote from AdAstra
                    Now shows with similar themes - yes.

                    Propaganda and analytics go hand in hand...
        3. +7
          April 18 2022 16: 14
          Quote: Lesovik
          They just pass off their expectations as someone else's mistakes.

          Seriously? Maybe then you will tell the sacred meaning of the walk to Kyiv and back? Well, yes, they explained to us, they say, to distract, to keep the enemy in suspense ... And then drag them through Belarus to the Donbass. You probably even believe in it...
          1. 0
            April 18 2022 16: 28
            Quote: Letun
            Maybe then you will tell the sacred meaning of the walk to Kyiv and back?

            You still won't believe it, you're not asking for that.
            Quote: Letun
            Well, yes, they explained to us, they say, to distract, to keep the enemy in suspense ...

            In fact, it was clear from the very beginning. I wanted, of course, to "one-two and kings", but ...
            In case you're not in the know, distracting strikes are a common practice.
            Quote: Letun
            And then drag through Belarus to the Donbass.

            "Dragged" not everyone. However, for you this knowledge is superfluous. What for? Yes, to grind this evil spirits in a limited area, and not to pick out from under women's skirts and because of children's backs in every town and village. And a large part of the Ukrainian army from near Kyiv went straight to the Donbass. Where they are expected.
            Quote: Letun
            You probably even believe in it...

            You can even trust Arestovich. In the end, everyone has their shortcomings.
            What, most likely, they did not take into account was precisely the fact that the Armed Forces of Ukraine will hide behind civilians and block the exit of the population from the conflict zone.
            1. +1
              April 18 2022 16: 40
              Well, I said you do. I didn't make a mistake. But the Arestoviches in Ukraine are believed just like you. We turn any evil into victory.
              1. -1
                April 18 2022 18: 54
                Quote: Letun
                Well I said

                And you didn't understand a damn thing...
                1. 0
                  April 19 2022 10: 13
                  Quote: Lesovik
                  And you didn't understand a damn thing...

                  Well, how could I not understand. I realized that you, behind jingoistic propaganda, do not see the tragedy of people who trusted the Russian Army that came to the territory of the Sumy, Chernihiv and Kiev regions, began cooperation, and then after its departure became consumables for provocations in Bucha (corpses with white bandages). How many more people were killed and captured, no one knows.
                  This is about your supposedly infallible distraction plan...
                  1. +1
                    April 19 2022 10: 20
                    Quote: Letun
                    I understood that you

                    I can only repeat
                    Quote: Lesovik
                    And you didn't understand a damn thing...

                    However, I initially assumed it.
                    1. +1
                      April 19 2022 10: 26
                      Quote: Lesovik
                      However, I initially assumed it.

                      Well, of course, there are zero arguments, so we make an arrogant-wise expression on our faces, squint our eyes and speak through our lips:
                      Quote: Lesovik
                      And you didn't understand a damn thing...

                      Understood, dear, understood. Believe me, not stupider than you.
                      1. 0
                        April 19 2022 10: 30
                        Quote: Letun
                        Well, of course, zero arguments,

                        Exactly. That is why you discuss the opponent in every comment ...
                        Quote: Letun
                        , native

                        No, there are no people like you among my relatives.
                        Quote: Letun
                        not dumber than you

                        I would like to believe.
          2. 0
            April 18 2022 22: 21
            Quote: Letun
            Quote: Lesovik
            They just pass off their expectations as someone else's mistakes.

            Seriously? Maybe then you will tell the sacred meaning of the walk to Kyiv and back? Well, yes, they explained to us, they say, to distract, to keep the enemy in suspense ... And then drag them through Belarus to the Donbass. You probably even believe in it...

            No one in the world, I mean those who understand the matter, had no questions about what we were doing near Kiev and Chernigov ... and why we left there also did not arise. And only the sofa warriors still don’t understand anything ... although what to take from them from the sofa ones.
            1. +2
              April 19 2022 10: 21
              Quote: Alexey Sedykin
              No one in the world, I mean those who understand the matter, had no questions about what we were doing near Kyiv and Chernigov

              Oh, you, as an older brother, sign here for the whole world. The West is very fond of doing this.
              Can I have a question? Did someone delegate you to make such statements on behalf of the "Whole World", or is everything much simpler here: "I have my opinion and it's not correct"?
              1. +1
                April 19 2022 10: 51
                Quote: Letun
                Quote: Alexey Sedykin
                No one in the world, I mean those who understand the matter, had no questions about what we were doing near Kyiv and Chernigov

                Oh, you, as an older brother, sign here for the whole world. The West is very fond of doing this.
                Can I have a question? Did someone delegate you to make such statements on behalf of the "Whole World", or is everything much simpler here: "I have my opinion and it's not correct"?

                Nothing of the kind... Nobody has canceled the Internet yet, and it contains statements not only from couch experts and pseudo-analysts from television screens. But so are the statements of military analysts and just the military, both ours and foreign ... But apparently for some chats this is the upper limit of understanding.
            2. 0
              April 19 2022 13: 46
              Explain if you know, I personally do not understand.
      2. +2
        April 18 2022 09: 50
        Quote: carstorm 11
        And who told such people from the real decision-makers?

        And there are many such people on the site?
        1. -1
          April 18 2022 09: 54
          Well, apparently they are already referred to many times) With all this, the Ministry of Defense is doing its job and somehow does not ask our opinion. The layman created some kind of picture in his head and now he is arguing with it)
          1. +10
            April 18 2022 12: 12
            Quote: carstorm 11
            The layman created some kind of picture in his head and now he is arguing with it)

            And the layman, to himself, never creates a picture. It is created from outside...
            1. -1
              April 18 2022 22: 23
              Quote: AllXVahhaB
              Everyman, for himself, never creates a picture. It is created from outside...

              If only... how he creates and with great pleasure.
              1. +2
                April 19 2022 08: 49
                Quote: Alexey Sedykin
                If only... how he creates and with great pleasure.

                You are wrong. To the layman it just seems so. It used to be that rulers dreamed of reading people's minds, today it is not necessary. Why read minds when you can write them right away? laughing
                Complete, total control over water data, and now it seems to you that you have drawn your own conclusions by comparing various sources laughing
                1. 0
                  April 19 2022 10: 46
                  Quote: AllXVahhaB
                  Quote: Alexey Sedykin
                  If only... how he creates and with great pleasure.

                  You are wrong. To the layman it just seems so. It used to be that rulers dreamed of reading people's minds, today it is not necessary. Why read minds when you can write them right away? laughing
                  Complete, total control over water data, and now it seems to you that you have drawn your own conclusions by comparing various sources laughing

                  You are mistaken ... the layman invents such a thing that not a single politician and propagandist has ever dreamed of.
      3. +13
        April 18 2022 12: 11
        Quote: carstorm 11
        And who told such people from the real decision-makers? Everyone knew perfectly well that this walk would not be fast. And it's not even the fact that they are sent various weapons. And the fact that this is a huge country to clean up which takes time in the dark.

        Actually, two months ago it sounded from every iron - “yes, you haven’t fought with Russia yet”, “yes, God forbid you know what we are capable of”, “yes we, yes you, yes with small forces, yes on foreign territory, Yes, in a couple of days", "Yes, they will all scatter themselves", "Yes, they will surrender", "Yes, we will only stop at the Polish border, and even then if we ourselves want" ... And all in the same spirit, through all channels ... And it is clear who forms the information agenda ...
        Or do you not remember it?
        1. -7
          April 18 2022 12: 48
          You carefully read what I wrote. If someone creates something for you, then what do I have to do with it, for example? What and who is broadcasting from the iron, I have no idea. It is enough to look at the map to understand the obvious things. And remember that the states, for example, in Iraq, have been fooling around for a month and a half, despite the fact that all the settlements are near the water and the rest is stupidly desert. And somehow those who wanted to crowd there did not drag weapons with mercenaries.
          1. +1
            April 18 2022 13: 03
            Are you a real decision maker?
            1. -4
              April 18 2022 13: 07
              Am I saying something?) I'm just proving on my fingers that no one spoke about a quick decision in 404. Well, except for the public, which apparently does not even know the size of this country)
              1. 0
                April 18 2022 13: 39
                Let's go in order...
                Quote: carstorm 11
                And who told such people from the real decision-makers?

                Quote: AllXVahhaB
                And all in the same vein, through all channels... But it is clear who forms the information agenda...

                Quote: carstorm 11
                If someone creates something for you, then what do I have to do with it, for example?

                Quote: AllXVahhaB
                Are you a real decision maker?

                laughing
                1. -4
                  April 18 2022 13: 47
                  Do you have some kind of quirk?) Or can’t you make a logical chain?) I asked the question who and when spoke about this. You told me about the agenda that someone forms. I told you that if someone creates it for you, then what do I have to do with it? Why do I need this information? I'm used to thinking for myself. You ask why am I the person that makes the decision. I answer you. What amuses you here is not for me.
        2. -1
          April 18 2022 22: 25
          Quote: AllXVahhaB
          Quote: carstorm 11
          And who told such people from the real decision-makers? Everyone knew perfectly well that this walk would not be fast. And it's not even the fact that they are sent various weapons. And the fact that this is a huge country to clean up which takes time in the dark.

          Actually, two months ago it sounded from every iron - “yes, you haven’t fought with Russia yet”, “yes, God forbid you know what we are capable of”, “yes we, yes you, yes with small forces, yes on foreign territory, Yes, in a couple of days", "Yes, they will all scatter themselves", "Yes, they will surrender", "Yes, we will only stop at the Polish border, and even then if we ourselves want" ... And all in the same spirit, through all channels ... And it is clear who forms the information agenda ...
          Or do you not remember it?

          Do you take "experts" in all sorts of talk shows seriously????
          1. +1
            April 19 2022 08: 19
            Quote: Alexey Sedykin
            Do you take "experts" in all sorts of talk shows seriously????

            Do you think that "experts" from talk shows are gag? Is that how they see it and say it? Well, like, we have freedom of speech and all that... I’ll probably reveal a secret to you - a journalist acting under the conditions of corporate selection inevitably leads a personal broadcast in unison with a narrative that promises the fastest career growth. So consider this the official position!
            1. -2
              April 19 2022 10: 41
              Quote: AllXVahhaB
              Quote: Alexey Sedykin
              Do you take "experts" in all sorts of talk shows seriously????

              Do you think that "experts" from talk shows are gag? Is that how they see it and say it? Well, like, we have freedom of speech and all that... I’ll probably reveal a secret to you - a journalist acting under the conditions of corporate selection inevitably leads a personal broadcast in unison with a narrative that promises the fastest career growth. So consider this the official position!

              What are you? But journalism in our country, for the most part, both television and general liberal orientation, is the conductor of Western influence ... somehow it does not coincide with your words, and yes, Ernst the patriot is not even funny ...
              1. +1
                April 19 2022 10: 57
                Quote: Alexey Sedykin
                Ernst is a patriot not even funny ...

                Patriotism, in the conditions of capitalism, is the same lever in the hands of Capital as everything else. Take Ovsyannikova, she was the editor (!!!) of Channel One, that is, she participated in the formation of the agenda. I received money for this, not small ... And here is such an incident! What is she? Changed shoes? Became a liberal from a patriot? Have you seen the light? Everything is much simpler - at the beginning of the extreme stage of competition, she decided that the corporation she works for will lose ... It's like going from Pepsi Cola to Coca Cola ...
                Who shoots at each other in Ukraine? Patriots or owners of factories, newspapers, ships?)
                1. -2
                  April 19 2022 11: 23
                  How much fog was lit up ... But there is nothing to say directly, without any equivocation? For example, unlike you, I directly said that from our durnalistics you will quickly wait for the praise of the West and everything connected with it. Than something good about us and Ovsyannikov is just a very good example of this.
                  1. +2
                    April 19 2022 12: 49
                    Quote: Alexey Sedykin
                    For example, unlike you, I directly said that from our durnalistics you will quickly wait for the praise of the West and everything connected with it. Than something good about us

                    What is ours? What kind of journalism is yours? Do you own any media? And something good about "us" is about whom? Maybe you are a beneficiary of the state, but we are not aware of it?
                    And no fog, everything is simple! The owners of the means of production also own control over the state. And it is as much yours as the company you work for!
                    Or are you still an oligarch?
                    1. -1
                      April 19 2022 16: 56
                      Quote: AllXVahhaB
                      Quote: Alexey Sedykin
                      For example, unlike you, I directly said that from our durnalistics you will quickly wait for the praise of the West and everything connected with it. Than something good about us

                      What is ours? What kind of journalism is yours? Do you own any media? And something good about "us" is about whom? Maybe you are a beneficiary of the state, but we are not aware of it?
                      And no fog, everything is simple! The owners of the means of production also own control over the state. And it is as much yours as the company you work for!
                      Or are you still an oligarch?

                      Everything is clear with you, you won’t expect anything intelligible from you ... And yes, I don’t separate myself from the Motherland. Unlike you.
                      1. 0
                        April 19 2022 17: 17
                        Quote: Alexey Sedykin
                        Everything is clear with you, you won’t expect anything intelligible from you ... And yes, I don’t separate myself from the Motherland. Unlike you.

                        That is, are you ready to die for Potanin's yacht, Mordashov's factory and Usmanov's villa? Is this your homeland? Well, do not distinguish yourself from this. Congratulations. We are really different! Even if you just don't understand what I'm talking about...
                      2. 0
                        April 19 2022 19: 07
                        Quote: AllXVahhaB
                        Quote: Alexey Sedykin
                        Everything is clear with you, you won’t expect anything intelligible from you ... And yes, I don’t separate myself from the Motherland. Unlike you.

                        That is, are you ready to die for Potanin's yacht, Mordashov's factory and Usmanov's villa? Is this your homeland? Well, do not distinguish yourself from this. Congratulations. We are really different! Even if you just don't understand what I'm talking about...

                        I understand you perfectly ... you are not the only one. And I will answer for me the Motherland is not Potanin and Usmanov, but the land and country in which I was born, live and die ... But you cannot understand this, because you do not know what the Motherland is.
                      3. 0
                        April 19 2022 21: 17
                        Quote: Alexey Sedykin
                        And I will answer for me, the Motherland is not Potanin and Usmanov, but the land and country in which I was born, live and die ...

                        It seems to me that you were born in a completely different country ...
                      4. 0
                        April 19 2022 21: 44
                        Quote: AllXVahhaB
                        Quote: Alexey Sedykin
                        And I will answer for me, the Motherland is not Potanin and Usmanov, but the land and country in which I was born, live and die ...

                        It seems to me that you were born in a completely different country ...

                        Naturally, in another ... but the Earth and Motherland remained unchanged. You don't understand this.
        3. 0
          April 19 2022 13: 48
          It was like that.
      4. +9
        April 18 2022 14: 35
        And the fact that this is a huge country to clean up which takes time in the dark.

        The forces involved in the "special operation" are completely insufficient for "cleansing a huge country" - this, as it were, became obvious to many in the very first days. 50 people per kilometer of the front, the lack of reserves - this, of course, is the very cunning plan for the longest cleansing of a huge country. Oh well
    2. +28
      April 18 2022 06: 55
      Oh Roman!...
      The pill is, of course, heavily sweetened. So that straight molasses in the mouth, not bitterness. But here's the problem - the puzzles don't add up! And the weapons are old, and there is no fuel, the ammunition should have run out long ago, and the NWO has been going its own way according to plans for almost two months now, and there is no end in sight.
      Particularly pleased with the reflections on the patriotic railroad workers. Yes, they are the grandchildren of partisans - only they don’t meet with bread and salt, for some reason ....
      1. +17
        April 18 2022 08: 19
        The supply of arms by NATO countries, often morally and physically obsolete, is not yet a NATO war against Russia. This time.

        I did not read further ...
        1. +11
          April 18 2022 08: 58
          The very time when I fundamentally disagree with Roman. The next month will show whether we will crack the defense, whether the equipment of the Armed Forces of Ukraine will become without fuel. Let's see.
      2. +16
        April 18 2022 09: 38
        Quote: Leader of the Redskins
        Oh Roman!...
        The pill is, of course, heavily sweetened. So that straight molasses in the mouth, not bitterness. But here's the problem - the puzzles don't add up! And the weapons are old, and there is no fuel, the ammunition should have run out long ago, and the NWO has been going its own way according to plans for almost two months now and there is no end in sight ..

        besides - the new "grad" installations and the wagons of ammunition for them are EXACTLY additional losses both on our part and among the Russian population
        so I see no reason for irony point blank
        1. +2
          April 18 2022 09: 55
          Here Roman too strategically built his theory. Putting the root of the lack of fuel. They say we will destroy the bridges, the railways were bombed, how will they be transported?
          But I forgot history...
          In Vietnam, it was very similar - dominance in the air, superiority in technology and the best support in the US Army.
          And also the rejection of the local population. And, in theory, the supply should have collapsed.
          But the Ho Chi Minh trail saved our comrades.
          An example from the present - in 2014 I read an article in which a batch of helmets and bulletproof vests were not allowed to cross the Polish border - something was wrong with the documents ... So the dill volunteers began to put it on themselves and cross the border! The border guards were not opposed to "personal clothing". So the whole party ended up on the territory of Ukraine.
          Where is the guarantee that hundreds of volunteers will not run from the canister and through the cordon and merge them into fuel tankers hidden in the forests, which will not go to the troop deployment points at night in disguise?
          1. +5
            April 18 2022 10: 33
            “hundreds of volunteers will not run” - even if you do not pay attention to literacy, then just try to move a railway tank in canisters at least 500 m away. And a modern army consumes fuel in echelons. And fuel is also necessary for the functioning of civilian infrastructure.
            1. +5
              April 18 2022 10: 41
              My friend, when he was escaping from the bandits in the "zero", RUN about 4-5 km with a canister of gasoline from the gas station to the car.
              A cistern is 3000 canisters. Do you think there will be so many volunteers?
              Ask who are the "ants" on the Ukrainian-Moldovan border. These porters easily drag truckloads of sugar in bags across the bridge.
              1. +1
                April 18 2022 15: 32
                The tank is not suitable for pouring liquid into canisters. Even if we assume that the canister is filled in one minute with buckets or a hose, it will take two days to empty the tank. And this is if movers, canisters and containers for overflow are available. And given the inevitable spill of fuel and the indestructible gouging of the personnel, the fire is guaranteed.
                Second. With a fright, as they say, you won’t run away, but try to run with a full canister without a fright for hours. It all looks beautiful in the movies, but in real life everything is much more prosaic.
                And yet, yes, there are not so many volunteers, you have to pay, and then, now try to find fools to work, and not ride.
            2. 0
              April 19 2022 16: 13
              Quote: Sergey Valov
              A modern army consumes fuel echelons. And fuel is necessary for the functioning of civilian infrastructure.

              Your statement in the same way applies to the Russian army, which abandons equipment due to lack of fuel.
          2. +1
            April 18 2022 22: 30
            Quote: Leader of the Redskins
            Here Roman too strategically built his theory. Putting the root of the lack of fuel. They say we will destroy the bridges, the railways were bombed, how will they be transported?
            But I forgot history...
            In Vietnam, it was very similar - dominance in the air, superiority in technology and the best support in the US Army.
            And also the rejection of the local population. And, in theory, the supply should have collapsed.
            But the Ho Chi Minh trail saved our comrades.
            An example from the present - in 2014 I read an article in which a batch of helmets and bulletproof vests were not allowed to cross the Polish border - something was wrong with the documents ... So the dill volunteers began to put it on themselves and cross the border! The border guards were not opposed to "personal clothing". So the whole party ended up on the territory of Ukraine.
            Where is the guarantee that hundreds of volunteers will not run from the canister and through the cordon and merge them into fuel tankers hidden in the forests, which will not go to the troop deployment points at night in disguise?

            It’s not even funny ... did you write this in all seriousness? I wonder where the Ukrainian partisans will hide, there will be a lot of tension with forests and in which country will this "Trail" be laid in Moldova? Yeah, and how did everyone without exception stand up for the fight, we also see the majority prefer to fight at a distance, from Europe.
      3. +8
        April 18 2022 09: 49
        The road to work passes by the railway tracks, and while I'm standing in a traffic jam, trains with equipment often pass. So it’s not for nothing that the enemies send anti-tank systems and other weapons. Yesterday I talked with a grower from Poltava, such a damn hatred for Russia. I don’t know how we can turn it all around.
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              1. -1
                April 18 2022 15: 20
                Well, if all opponents are imprisoned or killed, then the opinion will develop unambiguously. Disabling ukrovranya works wonders. And Kherson is an example.
                1. 0
                  April 18 2022 23: 30
                  what's an example? mass thousands of pro-Ukrainian actions every week and the complete absence of pro-Russian ones, for two months already.
                  This is an example of what?
              2. 0
                April 18 2022 22: 34
                Quote: Leader of the Redskins
                Have you been completely disconnected from the Internet? If not, then look at the demonstrations in Kherson, listen to what they say in Odessa and Kharkov.
                I PERSONALLY communicate with a classmate who lives in Kharkov. So I have the right to say so. What can you reasonably answer?

                And what about Kherson? They cleaned out the agents and all the protests were blown away ... for almost a month now no one even goes out to ride ... and yes, we can see different videos ... how they meet our equipment in the same Kharkiv region. There are also some with our tricolor, but you haven’t seen them ...
                1. -1
                  April 18 2022 23: 34
                  On April 10, thousands of pro-Ukrainian rallies took place in Kherson, the video is available online.
                  https://www.facebook.com/100028374940771/videos/382083163775792/

                  and so almost every week
                  1. 0
                    April 19 2022 10: 26
                    Yeah, they saw the signs ... they take the shooting of the first days and pass it off as the later ones. Look at the clothes...
          2. +1
            April 18 2022 21: 32
            I assume that the plan has been revised, the goals and objectives have been adjusted, and it will end after the liberation of the territory of the LPR and the DPR. Our Armed Forces suffered the biggest losses in the first days of their due to poorly planned military, because our big bosses probably also thought like the author of this article. If we have enough strength and means, then only for the liberation of the territory of the LPR and the DPR. The urine is too large in area, and with a people alien to us, who are stuffed with weapons by Westerners. IMHO.
    3. KLV
      0
      April 18 2022 09: 04
      "A couple of months ago, they told us here how many hours we would take Kyiv."

      Konstantin, you have already been asked: who said this? You still haven't answered.

      I want to repeat the question: who told you this? Say "A" - say "B".
      1. +3
        April 18 2022 14: 45
        May I answer?
        Father Lukashenka voiced this in an interview with Solovyov. He at one time, on February 22, issued: - Raise an eyebrow and surrender!
    4. +8
      April 18 2022 10: 21

      Is Roman's pessimism suddenly replaced by optimism?
      1. Aag
        0
        April 18 2022 18: 35
        Quote: Pilat2009
        Is Roman's pessimism suddenly replaced by optimism?

        Do you think you talked to him?
    5. +17
      April 18 2022 10: 33
      Somehow shyly, the author bypassed the supply of fuel and lubricants from Romania .. And everything is going on in echelons .. A strange war .. What did it cost to burn the railway infrastructure 100 km from the western borders of Ukraine? So that not a single bridge, railway junction, depot and other things .. Automobile bridges and interchanges are the same as electrical substations .. What prevented this from being done in a month and a half? I’m not talking about bridges across the Dnieper .. The only thought is money! They didn’t want to destroy the future trophy with blood and pay .. And the funny thing is, when we get there, the Ukrainians will blow it all up anyway. So it's time to destroy everything about what is written above, all this is doomed without options ..
      1. +8
        April 18 2022 10: 56
        Did the author decide to press Kirill Ryabov? He always has a lengthy article and the conclusion that everything that is supplied is garbage.
      2. 0
        April 18 2022 23: 38
        .What did it cost to burn out the railway infrastructure 100 km from the western borders of Ukraine?

        not so simple, it is very developed and branched.
        This is not Syria with three desert roads.
        Aviation is not used in Western Ukraine, air defense is not suppressed, and missiles are a very high expense, not every one will hit the target.
        1. 0
          April 19 2022 15: 40
          Although Yandex maps open there a hundred necessary goals and no more ..
    6. -4
      April 18 2022 11: 37
      Quote: Jacket in stock
      We were told here a couple of months ago how many hours we would take Kyiv.

      And who told something? Or who from the Ministry of Defense of Russia said this? You can reference when, who and where from our leadership said this.
    7. +6
      April 18 2022 12: 44
      They took Og - and left the "Gesture of Goodwill" his mother, in addition to this, lost more than 2700 units of automobile and armored vehicles, destroyed and captured, and most likely at least 3000 - 200 were killed by the deputy commander of the Black Sea Fleet, lost one landing ship and the flagship cruiser Moscow.
    8. +7
      April 18 2022 13: 17
      The author does not care - from a turbopatriotic writer.
      On one of the Tg-channels there was a video about how ukram fuel from Romania travels in echelons through Moldova. Many. Plus from Poland. And this is not, if not a lot, but enough to maintain the military equipment of the battlefield.
      And so, once again, the question arises - from what political goals is the Kremlin trying to PLAY war games, instead of fighting CORRECTLY?
    9. +4
      April 18 2022 16: 14
      Anything serious in deliveries? It's too frivolous to underestimate the enemy! If even one life is interrupted with this weapon, it is a tragedy! Someone will not wait for a son, father, husband, brother!
    10. +2
      April 18 2022 19: 39
      Quote: Jacket in stock
      the author does not want to check for himself?

      Of course not. The author is probably unaware that even a tenth of these weapons are unpleasant for our soldiers. And that is not all. No matter how many warehouses, bases and other storage facilities for fuel and lubricants have been destroyed, and gasoline in the city of Konotop, Sumy region. available at gas stations. And even the price is reduced. Was in March - 40 hryvnias, became 37. So that's it.
    11. +2
      April 18 2022 22: 40
      Quote: Jacket in stock
      We were told here a couple of months ago how many hours we will take Kyiv

      Well, that’s what the hat-throwers on the VO website said, of which there are like dirt here. What to take from them?
    12. +2
      April 18 2022 22: 47
      Quote: Jacket in stock
      We were told here a couple of months ago how many hours we would take Kyiv.

      For at least four years I have been saying that the most favorable time was in 2014, then they were really waiting for us in all of eastern Ukraine, and starting from 18-19 the propaganda had a full effect even on people who went to the referendum in 2014 for leaving the square! So today, for the most part, except for hatred, we have nothing to expect from them, unfortunately. More than half a million warriors passed through the Donbass, fired on, got along, with all the consequences. Good luck to our guys and God bless them!
      1. +3
        April 18 2022 23: 42
        and starting from 18-19, the propaganda had a full effect even on people who went to the referendum in 2014 for leaving the square!

        not propaganda, but reality.
        The standard of living began to grow noticeably, there was free access to Europe, including to work officially, where salaries are even higher. Russia has lost its appeal in the eyes of Ukrainians.
        1. 0
          April 19 2022 10: 32
          Quote: Avior
          not propaganda, but reality.
          The standard of living began to grow noticeably, there was free access to Europe, including to work officially, where salaries are even higher.
          You came from the wrong side, colleague! The reality is that the country's external debt has doubled - the data is open, you can look at the years, the obligations under the concluded contracts are not fulfilled (Motor Sich, Krivorozhstal), the only thing that has improved is the possibility of earning money in the EU for citizens, which allows people more or less normally live and help their elderly relatives. Listen to the statements of Ze, where he asks for 50 billion dollars, you will begin to understand more.
    13. +1
      April 21 2022 12: 32
      These are the jackets that screamed about the blitzkrieg, but now again everything is not so.
  2. +14
    April 18 2022 04: 31
    But each station has track repair equipment and people who are able to make repairs in the shortest possible time.

    Bridge repair crews also at each station?

    There is no point in destroying bridges. The blowing up of a bridge in the Belgorod region by Ukrainian saboteurs will clearly demonstrate this to everyone.
    They didn't even collapse the span! And more importantly, were the destruction comparable to the banal blur of the canvas eliminated under repeated shelling or sabotage? Obviously not. But a bridge damaged by a rocket can be finished off the next, in two days.
    1. 0
      April 18 2022 22: 54
      Quote: Vladimir_2U
      But a bridge damaged by a rocket can be finished off the next, in two days.

      On the one hand, this is exactly what it is, but who knows what plans the General Staff has? After all, we will have to use bridges.
      1. +1
        April 19 2022 05: 23
        Quote from busine
        After all, we will have to use bridges.

        On the border with Poland? Not sure. But as they say, "it is better to shed liters of sweat than liters of blood."
  3. -10
    April 18 2022 04: 32
    It is impossible to deliver anything serious, because for a serious one you need trained specialists. The question is, what specialists have been trained for 8 years on the outskirts? Infantry - weakly, not counting the boiler period, were sitting in the trenches. Tractor drivers - see above. Flyers are not in business at all. All that remains is sabotage and 8 years of artillery that has been hammering through the squares. What can they supply?The PzH-2000 battery connected to the mains?
    1. 0
      April 18 2022 20: 31
      And who said that now, right in these minutes, the crews are not being trained?
  4. +28
    April 18 2022 04: 45
     Pilots and navigators of the same 47th Bomber Aviation Regiment, who have burned hundreds of such fuel trucks in Syria, are expected to take the stage. I think the result of their work in Ukraine will be no different from their work in Syria.

    Very funny.
    In fact, it's not funny at all.
    No matter how the author waved his saber here, but unlike the Syrian barmaley, the Ukrainians have air defense, and it works great. That is why our planes do not fly further than Mariupol.
    As I already wrote, both the Su-34, and the Ka-52, and the Mi-28N (especially this one) "see" perfectly in the dark. And that means it will burn properly.
    yeah
    But who will burn?
    Rather, our turntables and Sushki, because they are also perfectly visible, both in the dark and in the sun, AWACS in general always see them perfectly, in any weather.
    And unlike our A50s, they fly there all the time, plus more drones, plus satellites ....
    1. -18
      April 18 2022 05: 23
      Well, you attacked the author, he just expressed his point of view. Of course, everything that ukrov is pumped with shoots and supplies cannot be underestimated, but this is not the kind of weaponry that is necessary for a full-fledged war. And let me know where did the ukrov get their spy satellites from? Maybe we don't know something? We also don’t know that the Black Sea was dug out by ancient Ukrainians who, in ancient times, dug under the bottom of holes?
      1. +21
        April 18 2022 06: 46
        Quote from imerjak
        let me know where the ukrov got their spy satellites from? Maybe we don't know something?

        I don’t know what you know, but the Americans have said more than once about providing the Ukrainians with their intelligence information.
        1. -16
          April 18 2022 07: 07
          Well, I didn’t ask you about this - I asked about my own independent satellites!
          1. +12
            April 18 2022 07: 12
            Quote from imerjak
            Well, I didn’t ask you about this - I asked about my own independent satellites!

            Why do they need their own satellites?
            They even wrote in the constitution that their goal is to join the "family of civilized mankind"
            1. -11
              April 18 2022 07: 24
              They will legalize prostitution and write it into the constitution, but they will not get their companions, why do they need them laughing
      2. +11
        April 18 2022 07: 07
        Quote from imerjak
        Well, you attacked the author, he just expressed his point of view. Of course, everything that ukrov is pumped with shoots and supplies cannot be underestimated, but this is not the kind of weaponry that is necessary for a full-fledged war. And let me know where did the ukrov get their spy satellites from? Maybe we don't know something? We also don’t know that the Black Sea was dug out by ancient Ukrainians who, in ancient times, dug under the bottom of holes?

        The Taliban in Afghanistan, where the theater of operations is the mountains and the desert, pumped up less and then the union fought there for 10 years.
        Why do we steal our satellites, spies and reconnaissance aircraft like Avax, all intelligence is transmitted to the Ukrainians in real time by NATO.
        1. -13
          April 18 2022 08: 00
          The Ukrainian mentality is close to us by blood, therefore the goals and tasks set for the military are exclusively a sparing course of the operation, the latter has nothing to do with the heirs of Bandera. And as soon as the boiler near the Donbass is destroyed, in which the most combat-ready units of the nationalist battalions are located, the special operation will go much more efficiently. This is understood, and those who supply the nationalists with weapons, and those who settled in Kyiv. Sooner or later we will find a common language with the Ukrainians, but not with the banderlogs who settled in Kyiv and took people hostage!
          1. +4
            April 18 2022 08: 53
            Quote from imerjak
            Sooner or later we will find a common language with the Ukrainians, but not with the banderlogs who settled in Kyiv and took people hostage!

            Ukraine is held hostage in the first place by NATO, under the control of America. And they will never be allowed to sign any contracts on our terms. After all, it was said a long time ago that they would fight to the last Ukrainian.
            1. +1
              April 18 2022 10: 08
              Yes, I am not arguing with you, but I think that there are those in Ukraine who are able to realize what we are talking about here. And these are not some scumbags with blood on their hands, but quite healthy Ukrainians, I meant them.
              1. +2
                April 18 2022 10: 24
                Quote from imerjak
                Yes, I am not arguing with you, but I think that there are those in Ukraine who are able to realize what we are talking about here.

                There are practically no such people there. And those who were, either cleared out the SBU, or reformatted their consciousness in 8 years.
          2. +10
            April 18 2022 09: 46
            Quote from imerjak
            The Ukrainian mentality is close to us by blood, therefore the goals and tasks set for the military are exclusively a sparing course of the operation, the latter has nothing to do with the heirs of Bandera. And as soon as the boiler near the Donbass is destroyed, in which the most combat-ready units of the nationalist battalions are located, the special operation will go much more efficiently. This is understood, and those who supply the nationalists with weapons, and those who settled in Kyiv. Sooner or later we will find a common language with the Ukrainians, but not with the banderlogs who settled in Kyiv and took people hostage!

            If you continue to fight, also in a sparing mode, then Russia is unlikely to master this war, and most likely will lose if it continues in the same spirit.
            Where did you see the boiler?
            1. -8
              April 18 2022 10: 11
              If you are so smart, then why not in the General Staff, at least as a clerk?!
              Boiler in the Donetsk and Luhansk directions.
              1. +6
                April 18 2022 10: 33
                Quote from imerjak
                If you are so smart, then why not in the General Staff, at least as a clerk?!
                Boiler in the Donetsk and Luhansk directions.

                "If you are so smart, then why not at the General Staff" this question can be asked to any commentator on VO or other publics, including you. You are not satisfied with something in my comments, then this is your problem. I do not claim to be the laurels of a great commander, but only express my opinion.
                Well, specifically in what place was formed the boiler for ukrovoysk. As far as I know, there is no boiler in the directions that you indicated, but there is some coverage of enemy troops from the north and south.
                The cauldron is when the enemy grouping is completely surrounded and methodically destroyed, or capitulates.
                So your boiler is your fantasy.
                I listened to Y. Podolyaka on YouTube so he already from the first week, as he surrounded, destroyed and captured Ukraine. TVD map for April 17th.
                1. +7
                  April 18 2022 12: 47
                  Yes, there was nothing left to capture - 10 more such squares and storm more than a dozen such cities and decently large ones like Mariupol, with which they have been tinkering for 54 days.
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        3. 0
          April 18 2022 22: 45
          Quote: leks
          The Taliban in Afghanistan, where the theater of operations is the mountains and the desert, pumped up less and then the union fought there for 10 years.

          Hmm ... how many Americans fought in Afghanistan? The mountainous terrain is not a plain for you; it has its own specifics and it is much more difficult to fight. Moreover, where was it so that "spirits" were surrendered to us in batches like in Ukraine ... And yes, where did you find the desert in Afghanistan, would you mind sharing?
          1. 0
            April 19 2022 08: 12
            Quote: Alexey Sedykin
            Quote: leks
            The Taliban in Afghanistan, where the theater of operations is the mountains and the desert, pumped up less and then the union fought there for 10 years.

            Hmm ... how many Americans fought in Afghanistan? The mountainous terrain is not a plain for you; it has its own specifics and it is much more difficult to fight. Moreover, where was it so that "spirits" were surrendered to us in batches like in Ukraine ... And yes, where did you find the desert in Afghanistan, would you mind sharing?

            The plateau in the southwest of the country has an average altitude of about 900 m above sea level and covers an area of ​​about 130 km². Most of this territory is occupied by deserts and semi-deserts, the most significant of which are the sandy Registan desert and the clayey-gravelly Dashti-Margo [000]. Will there be more questions about the terrain of Afghanistan or will you yourself read on the internet what Afghanistan is like?
            Well, how did your Americans, whom you mentioned, successfully fight? The example of the union that I gave implies that even the savages who were supplied with less, fought for 10 years with a powerful country. Now think about how many Ukrainians will fight, who are supported by the entire Western world, which supplies weapons and military equipment worth billions of dollars.
            Yes, and the Russian Federation is not an alliance with the second economy in the world to fight for 10 years.
            1. 0
              April 19 2022 10: 35
              Did someone supply the Taliban with something? But nevertheless, powerful America could not do anything with them. Yes, I admit I was wrong about geography.
              1. 0
                April 19 2022 10: 55
                Quote: Alexey Sedykin
                Did someone supply the Taliban with something? But nevertheless, powerful America could not do anything with them. Yes, I admit I was wrong about geography.

                If you mean supply when the Soviets were there, then yes, Western countries supplied the Taliban with small arms, ammunition, stingers, RPGs, large-caliber weapons
                the range was wide. I do not think that the Soviets that the Americans set themselves the task of completely winning these wars.
                1. 0
                  April 19 2022 11: 11
                  Well, yes, yes ... the Americans just sat in Afghanistan for 20 years, pumping up the government army with weapons. What they threw there, the dill never dreamed of ...
                  1. 0
                    April 19 2022 16: 45
                    Just the government army in Afghanistan asked for Soviet weapons, which our media wrote with pride at the beginning of the XNUMXs. However, ours also left a lot of tsaranda. Only they did not last long against the Taliban.
                    1. 0
                      April 19 2022 17: 02
                      Quote: mordvin xnumx
                      Just the government army in Afghanistan asked for Soviet weapons, which our media wrote with pride at the beginning of the XNUMXs. However, ours also left a lot of tsaranda. Only they did not last long against the Taliban.

                      After the supply was stopped, they resisted for another 3 years ... how long did the army trained by the amers resist, 3 days?
                      1. +2
                        April 19 2022 17: 24
                        In response to this, I can write that the Soviet army was more popular than the American John Rambo from the third action movie series.
                      2. 0
                        April 19 2022 19: 09
                        So there is no answer...
                      3. +1
                        April 19 2022 19: 20
                        Quote: Alexey Sedykin
                        So there is no answer...

                        What's wrong with my version? The Americans were constantly sitting at the bases, and ours were also building in addition.

                        How do you like this Kabul?
                  2. +1
                    April 19 2022 20: 21
                    Quote: Alexey Sedykin
                    Well, yes, yes ... the Americans just sat in Afghanistan for 20 years, pumping up the government army with weapons. What they threw there, the dill never dreamed of ...

                    Well, they quit, what's up with that!? How can the abandoned threaten your amers?
                    You don’t have to worry about ukrov stuffing them with weapons at all, don’t indulge, even the Afghans will envy. These deliveries are delaying the end of the war and the resistance is only growing.
                    And all this will have to be dealt with by our soldiers on the front line, as well as in the rear.
                    1. 0
                      April 19 2022 21: 41
                      To my amers? What makes you think that they are mine ... and to begin with, take an interest in what the Americans abandoned at their bases.
    2. -7
      April 18 2022 07: 12
      But who will burn?


      Yeah... Shall we give up? If they had something to shoot down, they would have shot down near Kiev, he was probably the most protected. But during the landing, the Ukrainians didn’t jump from overcoming. And according to reports from the front, which Konashenkov informs us, the main amount of air defense has already been destroyed, and if something appears, it is destroyed. They don’t fly to Lviv, which means there’s no need yet, as long as they get it pointedly with a long arm, but they will have to fly, it seems to me.
      Pour a glass more than half, and it will not seem to you "less than half" ...
      1. +14
        April 18 2022 07: 26
        Quote: Ilnur
        But who will burn?


        Yeah... Shall we give up? If they had something to shoot down, they would have shot down near Kiev, he was probably the most protected. But during the landing, the Ukrainians didn’t jump from overcoming. And according to reports from the front, which Konashenkov informs us, the main amount of air defense has already been destroyed, and if something appears, it is destroyed. They don’t fly to Lviv, which means there’s no need yet, as long as they get it pointedly with a long arm, but they will have to fly, it seems to me.
        Pour a glass more than half, and it will not seem to you "less than half" ...

        The landing in Gostomel was unexpected, and then there were downed turntables. The landing party held the defense for several days before the arrival of the main forces, although initially there was a calculation of no more than 12 hours before the main group of troops approached, they got bogged down in battles. The first week of fighting in Ukraine was the most critical, everyone really crap there and didn’t know what to do and how, either to fight, or to surrender and sign an agreement. But the confusion passed and the real resistance of the ukrov began in all directions. The most trained and combat group of troops in the area of ​​Severodonetsk is still holding the line.
        1. -13
          April 18 2022 08: 01
          Well?
          They came to their senses, and what's next, did they start shooting down planes, helicopters? So it seems that only information about their downed planes and helicopters, destroyed by air defense is transmitted, and ukrozel walks around the world with an outstretched hand to get Russian-made aircraft and air defense - why not?
          1. +11
            April 18 2022 08: 30
            Quote: Ilnur
            Well?
            They came to their senses, and what's next, did they start shooting down planes, helicopters? So it seems that only information about their downed planes and helicopters, destroyed by air defense is transmitted, and ukrozel walks around the world with an outstretched hand to get Russian-made aircraft and air defense - why not?

            Do not believe it, but they shoot down planes and helicopters, as well as destroy armored vehicles from Western junk such as nlaw, jawelin, stinger, igla, starstreak.
            You take off your rose-colored glasses and look at other sources of information, where there are a bunch of confirmed downed helicopters and planes, as well as destroyed armored vehicles. But it's easier for people like you to say it's fake. This is a war and the war is clearly not with barmaley from Syria. Yes, Zelya walks and asks, or even demands, and they give him and will give it, and by the summer he will receive more modern weapons. And these deliveries will increase. You can be sure that ukrosoldat are trained in Poland and directly in Ukraine, making them specialists for working with new equipment and conducting combat operations.
            1. -9
              April 18 2022 08: 38
              I wrote somewhere that they didn’t shoot down, I just wrote that their planes and air defense were being destroyed ... No need to think for me ..
              And I don’t have rose-colored glasses, I have been following the events on the ukrosal for a long time, and I have an idea that they were not just trained, armed, and therefore trained soldiers are fighting against us, and therefore we will have losses.
              1. +5
                April 18 2022 09: 41
                Quote: Ilnur
                I wrote somewhere that they didn’t shoot down, I just wrote that their planes and air defense were being destroyed ... No need to think for me ..
                And I don’t have rose-colored glasses, I have been following the events on the ukrosal for a long time, and I have an idea that they were not just trained, armed, and therefore trained soldiers are fighting against us, and therefore we will have losses.

                Above are your words "if there was something to shoot down, they would shoot down" "so it seems that information is only about their shot down planes and helicopters" what follows from your words, but that they did not shoot down ours, and also that they have no air defense. There is no need to think here.
                1. -7
                  April 18 2022 11: 10
                  Are we already giving up? Everything is lost? Can I pay reparations?
                  From your words, it turns out that the Ukronazis shot down a bunch of our planes and helicopters .. can you give statistics, how can you confirm it? Just don't give fake evidence.
                  1. +6
                    April 18 2022 11: 26
                    Quote: Ilnur
                    Are we already giving up? Everything is lost? Can I pay reparations?
                    From your words, it turns out that the Ukronazis shot down a bunch of our planes and helicopters .. can you give statistics, how can you confirm it? Just don't give fake evidence.

                    About how the topic was developed, it’s not good to blame the opponent for what he doesn’t say and doesn’t mean! My opinion is that there is no need to turn on stupid urapatriots and throw hats on the enemy. Underestimating the enemy has far-reaching consequences, as the first weeks of hostilities showed. Underestimating the supply of weapons from the West is also fraught with consequences.
                    Any link with these losses of armored vehicles, as well as aircraft and helicopters, will be perceived by you as a fake, so I don’t see the point, we’ve already gone through this.
                    1. -4
                      April 18 2022 11: 51
                      So I did not say that we had no losses, but there was no talk about armored vehicles at all. And the hat and no one throws it, I wrote above that they are trained and armed.
                      And at the expense of strikes on Lviv, here on VO there was an article about the strike by Su-35 aircraft - this is another interlocutor. The jacket in reserve wrote that we only fly over Mariupol
                      1. +1
                        April 18 2022 16: 48
                        Quote: Ilnur
                        And at the expense of strikes on Lviv, here on VO there was an article about the strike by Su-35 aircraft - this is another interlocutor. The jacket in reserve wrote that we only fly over Mariupol

                        Well, the info about the Su35 raid was from the mayor of Lvov, our Defense Ministry did not say anything like that.
                        And if it was, then once in a month and a half. And the author rubs us about the dominance and control of the air.
      2. 0
        April 18 2022 07: 39
        Quote: Ilnur
        it seems to me.

        As folk wisdom says - when it seems, be baptized.
        1. -10
          April 18 2022 08: 05
          But essentially nothing to say?
          So I already wrote to you, pour more than half and drink, then optimism will appear, but just do not abuse it!
          I don’t drink myself, but if the glass is half filled, then I have it “half full” ...
          1. +4
            April 18 2022 08: 26
            Quote: Ilnur
            But essentially nothing to say?

            Yes, how blah ....
            Just above, I wrote everything in detail
    3. +1
      April 18 2022 16: 17
      I would like to see the results of the work of this air defense. But something with the wreckage is not thick. And aviation flies, in principle, wherever it wants, but first of all, where the fighting is going on. Of course, it’s not safe to just fly across the Dnieper, it may be an air defense ambush, and in general you need to take measures to suppress it, which increases the number of forces, but Avax has one problem, the radio horizon with H = 10000 will be 400 kilometers, i.e. The Dnieper from Poland is no longer visible, but the air defense has a different one, it is distributed among objects, and in the absence of fighter aircraft, it is detected and destroyed quite easily. At the same time, the presence of an avax, most likely, will help in no way, because some Su-34 will already approach from heights where it is already visible. Well, there are all sorts of "Khibiny" and anti-radar missiles. By the way, launching at Avaks is also possible, “I had a FO yelled, I fired at a source,” claims are not accepted, oh, not Ukrainian, it was, well, they’re shooting here, there was nothing to fly here.
      1. +2
        April 18 2022 16: 52
        Quote: EvilLion
        Awax launch is also possible

        Yes Yes Yes.
        Over the Black Sea, their drones and planes fly in batches, and next to none of our Khibiny can be seen or heard.
  5. -9
    April 18 2022 04: 55
    For many years, Western instructors taught the Ukrainians not to fight on the battlefield, but to sabotage and terrorist attacks. Another ukrov was not taught. Well, how to conduct a special operation with such a Viysk, I think that in the General Staff and directly on the ground, they know better than you and me.
    1. +1
      April 18 2022 13: 55
      Quote from imerjak
      For many years, Western instructors taught the Ukrainians not to fight on the battlefield, but to sabotage and terrorist attacks. Another ukrov was not taught

      Why are we taking Mariupol for 1.5 months?
      1. -4
        April 18 2022 14: 19
        Because the so-called viyska of Ukraine are hiding behind the civilian population, and also, there are other reasons.
        1. +1
          April 18 2022 14: 48
          Quote from imerjak
          Because the so-called viyska of Ukraine are hiding behind the civilian population, and also, there are other reasons.

          It's clear. Understood.
          "Patamushto, patamu..."
      2. 0
        April 18 2022 16: 19
        Well, if the Tu-22M3 was immediately applied, then it was possible in 3 days with the destruction of half the population. Mariupol was taken very quickly in fact. The fact that someone is sitting there in the factories, so they can sit there for a year, if only they don’t get out, they just decided to de-Nazify indicatively.
  6. +12
    April 18 2022 04: 58
    Breaking is not building. Knock out bridges (primarily across large rivers), preferably not only along the spans, but also along the bulls - restoration will take a very long time. And all this time the enemy will have big problems with mobility in their own deep rear.
    1. +4
      April 18 2022 07: 14
      Quote: Pushkowed
      Breaking is not building. Knock out bridges (primarily across large rivers), preferably not only along the spans, but also along the bulls - restoration will take a very long time. And all this time the enemy will have big problems with mobility in their own deep rear.

      This had to be done in the first place and not only the transport infrastructure, but the headquarters of the Defense Ministry and the Security Service, the barracks.
  7. +15
    April 18 2022 05: 04
    Air control, pinpoint strikes from both aircraft and ground and surface launchers of cruise missiles, the destruction of fuel depots, transport hubs, railway and road bridges in the border areas with countries supplying military equipment will completely nullify all the efforts of Western countries to equipment of the Armed Forces.

    So everything is going in the right direction at the moment. 

    Ага.
    But there is no air control, no air strikes, no destruction of transport hubs, railway and road bridges in the border areas.
    And all "non-dangerous" assistance calmly reaches the Ukrainian troops.
    Damn, how to put a "minus" in the article?
    1. -14
      April 18 2022 05: 26
      deliver it to me laughing
  8. +7
    April 18 2022 06: 45
    no time to panic
    Yes, it seems that no one is panicking yet, with the exception of those who have #everything gone# - the norm of perception of Russian reality. It is clear that now they are supplying old heavy weapons, but what comes in the end also brings trouble. I agree with the author that
    There is no point in chasing trains, it’s easier to cover everything at the junction stations
    But for the time being, the nodal stations are not being touched for some reason.
  9. +9
    April 18 2022 06: 48
    The novel is usually more critical.
    Vietnam fought in more difficult conditions. There are tens of thousands of Nazis smeared with blood. Thousands of expensive landsknechts will be imprisoned for equipment. "Vacationers" are coming from non-third world countries (Romanians, Canadians, Poles, French). In the urban "jungle" they can really fight for years.

    ps The absence of serious bombing strikes can only be explained by the "red lines" of the former "partners". Prokopenko and the others fled. Azovstal was supposed to become a construction site with garbage already at the end of March.
    1. -2
      April 18 2022 07: 27
      Quote: samarin1969
      Thousands of expensive landsknechts will be imprisoned for equipment. "Vacationers" are coming from non-third world countries (Romanians, Canadians, Poles, French). In the urban "jungle" they can really fight for years.

      And here questions arise that are already openly declared and which do not go unnoticed
      Willy Wimmer, former Deputy Minister of Defense of Germany on the situation in Mariupol:
      "This is Easter news from Mariupol that you don't want to hear on Easter or any other day. The BBC is reporting Easter Sunday today that Russian soldiers have reportedly captured British soldiers in Mariupol. The news is still has not yet been refuted in London.
      However, uncomfortable, cruel questions arise. For example, the question of what did British soldiers, and therefore soldiers from a NATO country, forget in Mariupol?
      The second question - are there soldiers from other NATO countries in addition to British soldiers in Mariupol? Is the recent news true that there have been many attempts to evacuate by helicopter or ship high-ranking NATO advisers from Mariupol from the factories of the Azov Metallurgical Plant and the great underground fortress there? Is it true that all these attempts failed?
      Why did the NATO countries choose the notorious Azov Regiment as an “object of consultations”, and maybe not only consultations. From the Russian point of view, anyone who fights against Russia under the insignia of the SS will have to deal with those who remember the victims of fascism in the Great Patriotic War.

      Was and is the Azov Regiment really a “suitable formation” for allegedly hundreds of soldiers from NATO countries to put pressure on Russia? Why did the Western media hide and destroy news related to Mariupol and the Azov Regiment for several weeks? does the right value the use of large numbers of NATO soldiers in advising and leading the Ukraine belligerent?
  10. +20
    April 18 2022 06: 54
    There hasn’t been such stupid jingoistic patriotism for a long time. It means things are bad. War is logistics, logistics and again logistics. The supplied weapons first of all KILL, whether they are outdated or not. maybe because a train came from Moldova?
    1. +15
      April 18 2022 07: 10
      Quote from AVEALOM
      There hasn’t been such stupid jingoistic patriotism for a long time. It means things are bad. War is logistics, logistics and again logistics. The supplied weapons first of all KILL, whether they are outdated or not. maybe because a train came from Moldova?

      About fuel starvation and that they destroyed all air defense back in mid-March, they announced to the whole country.
      1. 0
        April 18 2022 16: 25
        And since mid-March, in fact, reports of the destruction of several aircraft at once a day have almost ceased. Air defense is also knocked out not so much. Our losses in aviation are also massive at the end of February, beginning of March. And the fact that the Ukrainians still have an S-300 division somewhere near Zhytomyr, well, if ours don’t fly there, then it doesn’t affect the course of the battles either. Air defense missiles do not intercept at all, it seems.

        There could not be a fuel starvation right away, because at the beginning of March the fuel was not actively knocked out yet, what was burned now will also not affect immediately, there are also parts of the tank, but it is already problematic to make a 300 km throw.
        1. +2
          April 18 2022 16: 35
          Quote: EvilLion
          And since mid-March, in fact, reports of the destruction of several aircraft at once a day have almost ceased. Air defense is also knocked out not so much. Our losses in aviation are also massive at the end of February, beginning of March. And the fact that the Ukrainians still have an S-300 division somewhere near Zhytomyr, well, if ours don’t fly there, then it doesn’t affect the course of the battles either. Air defense missiles do not intercept at all, it seems.

          There could not be a fuel starvation right away, because at the beginning of March the fuel was not actively knocked out yet, what was burned now will also not affect immediately, there are also parts of the tank, but it is already problematic to make a 300 km throw.

          In fact, the refinery was not destroyed, but the tank farm at the refinery was destroyed, and judging by the photo, not to zero. So the factories are working and filling into tankers and tankers is going on, you can say directly. They pump it into the surviving tank, and from there immediately pour it. Fuel was sold at gas stations and is being sold, which means that shipments are also being made to gas stations, and this cannot be if there are real problems with fuel in the country, this fuel has even fallen in price compared to the beginning of March, when there was a frenzied hype
          Yes, it’s not even that, but the fact that why declare fuel starvation about destroyed air defense when in fact this is not so.
    2. -18
      April 18 2022 07: 19
      Some stocks are taken out of caches, and they use this. Already a lot of abandoned equipment due to lack of fuel. They even throw brand new radars of their own design.
  11. +7
    April 18 2022 07: 07
    Still, it's a pity that Russia is more liberal than the West. Return the minus to the authors. Why minus? Yes, at least for the fact that the author believes that Ukraine will pay. If the author intends to leave Ukraine, then why are our guys dying? It's time to stop playing fairy tales about some Ukraine. There are two-thirds of Russian lands and it's time to return them.
    Moreover, by returning our lands, we will punish the West, he will lose money in this war.
    1. +4
      April 18 2022 10: 18
      And the next Kazakhstan? There are also full of Russian lands as well as nationalists.
  12. -2
    April 18 2022 07: 14
    I wonder who will be presented with a bill for weapons from the West? Or is the losing side not billed?
    1. +4
      April 18 2022 10: 18
      What is the score!? What do you think that we started this operation?: It was the Americans who planned everything competently and forced us into this hemorrhoids. All these costs have long been planned in the budgets. In vain they laughed at the rapid evacuation of the United States from Afghanistan, they already knew about the upcoming mess.
      1. +3
        April 18 2022 15: 08
        Absolutely. Everything is going strictly according to plan .... according to the American one. Mistrals, disruption of the supply of frigates for the Black Sea Fleet, restrictions on the import of military products. Throwing money to the authorities for energy resources (successfully squeezed out in five minutes). “We” are playing their game and there are absolutely no attempts to impose our own. They just don't know how, the level of our "chess players" is to shine in the sauna with the girls.
        1. -3
          April 18 2022 16: 26
          Nitsche, that in Russia the West was squeezed out for a trillion of property?
          1. +3
            April 18 2022 16: 57
            May I ask which one? Matvienko recently said directly that there will be no nationalization of Western assets!
      2. 0
        April 18 2022 16: 46
        Quote: ASAD
        It was the Americans who planned everything competently and forced us into this hemorrhoids.

        Well, yes, "old senile Biden" outright outplayed "our brilliant strategist".)))) Sad, but true. And even sadder is the fact that, as always, ordinary people in Russia and Ukraine will pay for it!
        1. +3
          April 18 2022 16: 55
          The game began long before Biden was elected, and it doesn't matter which president is in power.
          1. 0
            April 18 2022 17: 28
            Quote: ASAD
            The game began long before Biden was elected, and it doesn't matter which president is in power.

            No one argues with this, both of your statements are true. It is clear that decisions are made by capital, and on the one hand and on the other, the assets of the "Russian" oligarchs in Ukraine are not bombed, this war is for their interests. I just remember articles on VO about Biden.))))
    2. +6
      April 18 2022 10: 29
      Quote: Valery28
      I wonder who will be presented with a bill for weapons from the West? Or is the losing side not billed?

      Debts can be written off as a country subjected to aggression. And then, the USA has already announced Lend Lease
      1. 0
        April 18 2022 10: 38
        The best option for NATO is the current situation, they didn’t even imagine better. Weaken our state with the hands and lives of Ukrainians. And what about the money, they will print more, to whom the war is and to whom the mother is dear.
  13. +3
    April 18 2022 08: 04
    Well, God forbid if that's the case! Just why Roman Skomorokhov explains this at VO with a rather limited audience, and not official or near-official speakers for a wide audience. And then somehow "gestures of good will" and "frightened great patriots" are very annoying. Khasavyurt syndrome is difficult to treat.
  14. +4
    April 18 2022 08: 14
    Was it by chance that "Tochka-U" was used when hitting a BDK unloading in Berdyansk?
    1. +1
      April 18 2022 10: 31
      Quote: Saladine
      Was it by chance that "Tochka-U" was used when hitting a BDK unloading in Berdyansk?

      The commander of the Saratov BDK died in the hospital from his wounds.
      1. 0
        April 18 2022 11: 18
        So "Point-y" or not?
        1. +3
          April 18 2022 13: 28
          Quote: Saladine
          So "Point-y" or not?

          No one will say this, just like with Moscow.
      2. 0
        April 18 2022 12: 50
        Well, it's great.
    2. +2
      April 18 2022 14: 01
      Quote: Saladine
      Was it by chance that "Tochka-U" was used when hitting a BDK unloading in Berdyansk?

      Unlikely. In light of recent events, I believe more in Neptune.
  15. +11
    April 18 2022 08: 29
    Disagree, Roman. Are you saying the supplies are not dangerous? And it seems to me that each MANPADS delivered is the prospect of losing a helicopter, and most importantly, its crew, on whose training a lot of time and money has been spent. Each ATGM is the prospect of losing armored vehicles with people. These supplies are quite capable of spoiling the blood. Well, the supply of analogues of Tochka is strikes on Russian territory. And this is not only the loss of people and infrastructure, but also the image. And there is no need to say that air defense will bring everything down. I remember how they laughed at Saudi Arabia - throw out the patriots, buy from 400. The strikes on the airfield and the flooding of the ship, I think many people thought.
  16. BAI
    +7
    April 18 2022 08: 38
    Plus AS-90 self-propelled guns, the most recent of which were manufactured in 1995.

    In any case, this is much better (for Ukraine) than nothing or the Maxim machine gun.
    1. +6
      April 18 2022 10: 33
      Quote: BAI
      Plus AS-90 self-propelled guns, the most recent of which were manufactured in 1995.

      I wonder what year our self-propelled guns Gvozdika, Nona, MLRS Grad were made.
    2. +3
      April 18 2022 12: 52
      Yes, the West can supply hundreds of thousands of different barrels to Ukraine and tens of thousands of anti-tank weapons - if it doesn’t supply already and all of it will shoot at ours.
  17. +7
    April 18 2022 08: 39
    article is nothing
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  19. +2
    April 18 2022 08: 47
    And "two" - I will have a small question for those who are panicking:

    What was it that was supposed to happen that Roman drew attention to the alarmists?
    1. +4
      April 18 2022 10: 43
      What do you consider alarmism? Do you think only Mihan-Gonzalez should express their thoughts here?
      1. -4
        April 18 2022 10: 56
        Quote: ASAD
        Mihany-Gonzalez
        This is who are you?
        Sounds like it, but I can't remember anything remarkable.
        1. +4
          April 18 2022 10: 59
          This is one character, every day he is going to Syria or Ukraine with a pitchfork.
          1. -4
            April 18 2022 11: 08
            Quote: ASAD
            This is one character, every day with a pitchfork then

            What difference does it make where someone is going?
            Should this be an obstacle?
            Quote: ASAD
            here... express your thoughts
  20. +9
    April 18 2022 08: 58
    It's interesting how it's written.
    But how to combine these statements
    There is no point in destroying bridges, each station has track repair equipment and people who are able to make repairs in the shortest possible time

    and right there
    the destruction of fuel depots, transport hubs, railway and road bridges will completely nullify all the efforts of Western countries to equip the Armed Forces of Ukraine.

    In fact, the simultaneous statement of two opposing thoughts is called schizophrenia, or am I mistaken dear colleagues ???
  21. +10
    April 18 2022 09: 02
    the Armed Forces of Ukraine have never been seen in an attempt to use "Point U" on Russian troops.

    Maybe I missed something ... But what about the strike on the Millerovo airfield ... and on the port of Berdyansk .. but
    warehouse in Belgorod...
    1. +6
      April 18 2022 09: 33
      In my opinion, the author quite often writes very good articles. About situations that we see, but do not notice, we hear, but attach importance to. This article is not one of them. It's not at all clear what it is. Maybe against the backdrop of a slap in the face from the Armed Forces of Ukraine decided to cheer up?
      1. +10
        April 18 2022 09: 39
        I sometimes get the opinion that several different authors write under the name of Roman Skomorokhov.
        1. +3
          April 18 2022 09: 50
          Maybe even so.
  22. +14
    April 18 2022 09: 36
    Yes, yes, everyone is already in the know: the enemy is demoralized, the Armed Forces of Ukraine are ready to surrender any day now, every grandmother has a red flag under her pillow, with which she is preparing to go out to meet the liberators, the weapon is old, the equipment runs on the last drops of fuel (which last week on these rides in drops), NATO supplies one non-hazardous junk that cannot be compared with our equipment that has no analogues in the world, our losses are many times less than those of the enemy ... Did I miss anything?
  23. +4
    April 18 2022 09: 48
    But the main nuance: who said that the weapons are modern?

    The author, the supplied weapons are no worse than those used by the Russian army in Ukraine! Well, the truth is that the number / so far / is small, but still ...
    The quality and quantity of weapons are important, but the motivation of the soldiers is equally important! And there are some nuances with this ...
    1. -3
      April 18 2022 16: 44
      The 1995 howitzer may not be worse, but the WWII howitzers that the United States was going to supply, or the Leo-1, are substandard even against the backdrop of Soviet technology of the 1980s. At the same time, new fire control systems, new sets of remote sensing systems, and new shells can be used on Russian equipment, even old ones. So even in the ground forces, where, it seems, there have been no breakthroughs over the past 30-40 years, Russia has a qualitative advantage. The same BTR-82A is a much more serious product than the BTR-80, and even more so 70, and there are much more of them than the same BTR-4 from the Ukrainians.
      1. -1
        April 18 2022 18: 35
        Looking at the Russian equipment used in Ukraine, I see those vehicles that I once served in the army in the distant times of the Department of Internal Affairs. At that time, our opponents were the same Western equipment, which is being supplied by Ukraine. They were no worse than ours, we took them quite seriously. In addition, quite modern systems are supplied, which surpass the Russian ones. For example, UAVs, loitering ammunition, Javelins, UFOs, electronic warfare and reconnaissance equipment, communications equipment, etc. The plans include the supply of German and British self-propelled guns, very long-range and accurate. And if the MLRS is handed over, as they promise, the situation will become very hot ... For all that, tactically correct, competent use of available opportunities is more important, and the motivation of the soldiers is very important. hi
        It must be borne in mind that the supply of weapons from the West to Ukraine will increase, more and more new things will come. Since there is no shortage of people willing to join the army, the Armed Forces of Ukraine will be able to form and arm new and new corps. In fact, now the Ukrainian army, with the depletion of stocks of Soviet weapons, is smoothly moving to NATO standards. Ukraine is preparing for a long confrontation, the army is gaining combat experience, rearming.
        1. 0
          April 18 2022 22: 55
          As far as I remember from the news, German PzH-2000s will not be delivered. And I didn’t hear about MLRS at all beyond the “wishes” of Ukrainians, which also includes RQ-9 drones ...
  24. +10
    April 18 2022 09: 51
    Not convincing. Moreover, for Russia, the confrontation with the Armed Forces of Ukraine is not the only military problem. If we get stuck in one, we risk getting new aggression. As in 1919. The successful completion of the campaign for Russia means the recognition of its defeat by the West. 100% - - now they will not put up with it.
    It won't be for sure!

    For the first time I read such childish nonsense that at the same time. - - and the destruction of the enemy’s railway message is impossible ..... (For everything rises from the ashes at this very moment), and the flow of cargo cannot be significant and the cargo itself is bad ...
    And the fact that "it makes no sense to destroy bridges" would be better not to write ..... then there is no point in protecting them.

    Better one argument that works than a dozen that don't work.

    By the way, the war in Vietnam was won mainly due to deliveries by rail from the USSR through China. Because the railroad tracks were guarded by air defense forces.
    And in Ukraine, we see that everything works for them even without air defense. And Uncle ZE is sure that he can fight for at least 10 years.
  25. +7
    April 18 2022 09: 58
    Well, the author gave it. he would like to visit. when a tank or self-propelled guns works for you. So far, we cannot even block the approach of reinforcements to the Donbass zone. and the supply of ammunition and fuel there. With might and main they have both tanks and artillery and planes flying and helicopters.
    1. +3
      April 18 2022 12: 17
      Quote: perm18
      Well, the author gave it. he would like to visit. when a tank or self-propelled guns works for you. So far, we cannot even block the approach of reinforcements to the Donbass zone. and the supply of ammunition and fuel there. With might and main they have both tanks and artillery and planes flying and helicopters.

      Well, why are you casting a shadow on the wattle fence, the author near Voronezh does not fly or shoot anything, so his eyes are clear, his thoughts are clear, and they are busy identifying the search for critics and the 5th column.
  26. +10
    April 18 2022 10: 13
    “In reality, a cruise missile or tactical ballistic missile strike on a railway is, of course, yes. But at each station there are track repair equipment and people who are able to make repairs as soon as possible.

    People of two parallel lines, they are very peculiar. But just as our railway workers quickly eliminate the consequences of accidents and disasters, so the Ukrainian ones will do the same. They will pour it out, lay the sleepers, stretch the rails. The Gospel of Lazar Kaganovich is still working."


    Why a cruise missile? According to our talking heads and the author of this article, "Ukraine's air defense has been destroyed, we have complete air supremacy", in this case, a plane with bombs is cheaper, instead of expensive missiles and more damage, and the recovery time is higher when the embankment is not 5 meters and a total of 50-100 meters.

    "Western bounties are absolutely not dangerous. As the practice of the special operation in Ukraine shows, the Russian headquarters are by no means fools."


    Maybe not fools, but then they were very constrained by the customer of the banquet in choosing targets and defeating them and prohibiting "any amateur performance"


    "And "two" - I will have a small question for those who are panicking: do you even know, gentlemen, what military operations are?"


    The author is apparently a veteran of all wars, starting from the Napoleonic ones. Hat throwers, rabid uryakalki and "seven with one blow" are just MOST MOST OF ALL among those who are not burdened with the experience of personal participation in the database, who heard the whistle of a bullet only in the voice acting and believes that our fighters have nine lives, and he has as the main character complete immortality.
    1. +8
      April 18 2022 10: 22
      It must be admitted that all the author's arguments are beaten by one argument that worries readers: "In our society and in our state there is too little unity and too much betrayal that sticks out of every crack"
      One look at the photo of Mr. Peskov and
      reading his opuses is enough to easily go into a complete panic! We have ambiguity in everything even at the highest level.
      1. +3
        April 18 2022 14: 06
        Quote: ivan2022
        It must be admitted that all the author's arguments are beaten by one argument that worries readers: "In our society and in our state there is too little unity and too much betrayal that sticks out of every crack"
        One look at the photo of Mr. Peskov and
        reading his opuses is enough to easily go into a complete panic! We have ambiguity in everything even at the highest level.

        Oh yeah!!!...
        How do you like that?
        MOSCOW, April 18 - RIA Novosti. Information about which countries have agreed to buy gas for rubles is unlikely to be published, said presidential spokesman Dmitry Peskov.
        “Such information is hardly subject to publication, and both our relevant departments and the relevant Deputy Prime Minister Alexander Novak are engaged in this, he spoke about this at the end of last week, and, of course, first of all, Gazprom with its counterparts, that is direct buyers. It has already been said that payment will follow sometime in May for these deliveries, which began after the presidential decree came into force, so there is still some time," Peskov said, answering a question about the transfer of the payment scheme for Russian gas and about how many countries have agreed to buy gas for rubles.

        We modestly keep silent about our victories laughing
      2. 0
        April 18 2022 22: 56
        Quote: ivan2022
        It must be admitted that all the author's arguments are beaten by one argument that worries readers: "In our society and in our state there is too little unity and too much betrayal that sticks out of every crack"
        One look at the photo of Mr. Peskov and
        reading his opuses is enough to easily go into a complete panic! We have ambiguity in everything even at the highest level.

        What kind of people and government are they like ... for example, from reading the comments here, I have the impression that most of the splicing could be under an article on alarmism, it’s a pity that there isn’t such a thing.
    2. -4
      April 18 2022 16: 48
      50-100 m of track is still a multiple cheaper than a sortie and a guided bomb. No one will break the path, only trains and stations, possibly bridges, which, by the way, is being done. The issue is scale. There is a fleet of aircraft, its tasks are scheduled for days ahead, there is some kind of residual air defense beyond the Dnieper that will need to be suppressed.
  27. +1
    April 18 2022 10: 55
    Quote: Author
    They will pour it out, lay the sleepers, stretch the rails. The Gospel of Lazar Kaganovich is still working.

    belay
    Will the destroyed rolling stock also be repaired?
    What does the Gospel of Kaganovich say about this?laughing
  28. +7
    April 18 2022 10: 59
    And everything is fine. All large fuel storage facilities at the regional level, where the Armed Forces of Ukraine stored precious gasoline and diesel fuel in Nikolaev, Zaporozhye, Lvov, Odessa, Kharkov and Chuguev, alas, have been destroyed. Together with supply bases in Radekhov, Kazatin, Prosyanoy, Novomoskovsk.

    For example, how the price of fuel in Zaporozhye changed from the end of February, before the start of hostilities and after. At conventional gas stations for general use.

    And what do we see? After a short spike in prices at the very beginning of hostilities due to rush demand, in general, for most positions in mid-April, the price of fuel in Zaporozhye is lower (lower, Karl!), than before the outbreak of hostilities. Diesel fuel has risen in price - this is the most common thing in the spring, at the time of the start of spring field work.
    In general, prices are similar in Ukraine.

    There is no talk of any shortage of fuel even for the population, not to mention the military.
    It is obvious that the strikes on the gas storages, where "the Armed Forces of Ukraine stored precious gasoline", had no effect.
    1. -3
      April 18 2022 12: 39
      Quote: Avior
      And what do we see?

      We see two beautifully drawn tablets without indicating the source. Who is author? Where is it published? Based on what? And then we know what Mark Twain said about statistics ...
      1. 0
        April 18 2022 23: 06
        this is official information
        https://index.minfin.com.ua/markets/fuel/detail/
        do you have another one? bring...
        1. 0
          April 19 2022 08: 08

          Your link does not work... Judging by the name, this is the Ministry of Finance of Ukraine?
          And you never know, maybe you are referring to Arestovich, also an official informer ...
    2. +2
      April 18 2022 12: 53
      Of course, it doesn’t work if it is transported from the territory of Poland every day by trains.
    3. -2
      April 18 2022 16: 50
      Well, part of Zaporizhia is, as it were, liberated. They are now being imported there from the Crimea.
      1. 0
        April 18 2022 23: 07
        there are no Russian military in Zaporozhye. And in the region where they are, fuel prices are twice as expensive.
  29. +4
    April 18 2022 12: 37
    Always listened to the opinion of the author of this article. But here I STRONGLY DO NOT AGREE!!! And there are many reasons for this. To state for a long time, I will simply refer to this material: http://katyusha.org/view?id=18650.
    The only thing I agree with is that there is no need to panic here ...
  30. -4
    April 18 2022 13: 30
    Quote: AllXVahhaB

    Actually, two months ago it sounded from every iron - “yes, you haven’t fought with Russia yet”, “yes, God forbid you know what we are capable of”, “yes we, yes you, yes with small forces, yes on foreign territory, Yes, in a couple of days", "Yes, they will all scatter themselves", "Yes, they will surrender", "Yes, we will only stop at the Polish border, and even then if we ourselves want" ... And all in the same spirit, through all channels ... And it is clear who forms the information agenda ...
    Or do you not remember it?

    Your statement from the repertoire: Who is speaking? - Does everyone say? And who exactly? - All. Or _Everyone knows ... I don’t remember this on the site.
  31. -3
    April 18 2022 13: 32
    Quote: Gunter

    Will the destroyed rolling stock also be repaired?

    One composition is not enough. The novel also says that it is easier to bang a few on sorting. Not to mention the fact that at the station the target is stationary (not in motion).
  32. +1
    April 18 2022 13: 34
    Quote from: Hans Rudel
    I’m waiting for someone from the pique vests to finally utter a phrase that is already on everyone’s mind:
    "But we lost..."
    In my opinion, the blind do not see that the company is lost, Kyiv will not be taken, the villages near the North cannot be taken for months, the total bombing does not bring results, the mobilized look like homeless people
    with Mosin rifles and helmets in buckets .. Mariupol 2 months, no result yet, Kharkov 3 times more and there is the Dnieper Zaporozhye and so on. and so on .... This is a war for years, but meanwhile oil production is already falling by 10% in May by 30%, coal exports are fsee .. gas exports are decreasing, steel fsee and China will not eat everything Who has the courage to say-" we lost" is it time to end?

    You? You lost!
  33. +3
    April 18 2022 14: 40
    Here is copied and pasted from the cart.
    "On the influence of the Russian-Ukrainian oligarchy on the course of the NWO.

    1. Rear Admiral John Kirby, a Pentagon spokesman, said that, contrary to the logic of military operations, US intelligence did not record a single attempt by the RF Armed Forces and the LDNR by any means to block the flow of American and European weapons coming into the possession of front-line units from late February to mid-April APU. “Flights to transfer points are still being carried out, there is a ground movement every day of security assistance, weapons, equipment. We will continue to do this as quickly and as much as possible.” – Kirby

    2. The main (90%) volume of Western military and material assistance to the Kiev regime, which lost over 70% of the weapons available on February 24, comes by rail from western Ukraine (Lviv), bordering Poland and Slovakia. Vulnerabilities - three bridge crossings within the range of tactical missiles and airborne forces, which can be destroyed by three pinpoint strikes at known coordinates. In this case, communications that support the viability and military stability of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and the regime as a whole will be destroyed with the prospect of restoration at least a month or two. Alternative trucking by road does not compensate for the logistical disaster. However, this does not happen, just as many enterprises of the basic economic and defense structure controlled by Kiev avoid missile and bomb raids.

    3. An analysis of the reasons for such selectivity in the choice of targets allows us to conclude that objects that are directly related to the material interests of Russian and Ukrainian oligarchs remain outside the attention of planners-operators of BSHU and missile strikes. This suggests that, in one way or another, they influence the decision-making of competent persons, determining the course and nature of the SVR. The aforementioned railway lines in the opposite direction, to the west, also export goods and products manufactured at the enterprises of Ukrainian oligarchs and, in part, their Russian partners. With the blockade of air communications, maritime transport and international road transport, the railway, taken out of the limits of sanctions, remained the only logistical export-import communicator."
    1. +1
      April 18 2022 16: 58
      And can I ask a stupid question, how do you block the flow of weapons, if these are some kind of MANPADS, or grenade launchers? All this is simply thrown into a civilian truck somewhere in Poland and is absolutely not determined in any way. Don't write nonsense. Technology has been discussed recently. At the same time, it is actually possible to overtake a tank under its own power for 500 km, otherwise it would not be worth delivering it somewhere. So burnt railway facilities will not turn off anything completely. It must be done, but it is not a panacea. Another question is that the notorious 100 Polish tanks can simply be slow moving, and driving them in a column, in which, in addition to tanks, there should still be a bunch of everything, is not realistic. It will be covered somewhere in the Dnieper region, so as not to fly far, and single flights are possible, but this rate is low.

      And to bomb all the enterprises, this is a task for months, despite the fact that aviation is also busy at the forefront.
      1. +1
        April 18 2022 17: 24
        By road, weapons can be transported for action at best by the DRG, and not by the army. If you transport weapons and supplies for the army by road, then these will be COLUMNS, and not individual trucks, and even more so cars. The whole piece of iron is perfectly put out of action by the removal of bridges, and bridges cannot be restored quickly.
        1. 0
          April 18 2022 23: 00
          Quote: DmSol
          By road, weapons can be transported for action at best by the DRG, and not by the army. If you transport weapons and supplies for the army by road, then these will be COLUMNS, and not individual trucks, and even more so cars. The whole piece of iron is perfectly put out of action by the removal of bridges, and bridges cannot be restored quickly.

          The Ukrovoyaks knocked out the bridges... did it really hinder us?
          1. 0
            April 19 2022 15: 00
            yes, it hurt a lot. One of the arguments for the withdrawal of troops from Kyiv was just the supply.
            1. 0
              April 19 2022 16: 59
              Quote: DmSol
              yes, it hurt a lot. One of the arguments for the withdrawal of troops from Kyiv was just the supply.

              Who has an argument? Konashenkov did not seem to talk about this ...
  34. +1
    April 18 2022 15: 58
    "Narrowed Gavril as a postman,
    Gavrila delivered mail.
  35. +6
    April 18 2022 16: 07
    the author, you look, the RF Armed Forces squeezed from the remnants of Ukraine only what fell away in the first ten days. Then everything rested and a protracted war of attrition began. Given that the resource of the West is many times higher than ours, in a few months we will start having problems. Stocks are not endless. The Armed Forces of Ukraine without aviation (according to the General Staff of the Russian Federation) and without a solarium (according to your words) are quite successfully resisting and are even still shelling Donetsk calmly and without problems. And to talk about the fact that the equipment is old and not standard, because they have a lot of it and it can be stupidly used once until the motor resource is exhausted or undermined. I won’t be surprised at all if it turns out that Moscow was launched to the bottom by foreign missiles .. Looks like it’s not so dangerous (from your words) ..
    It's time to stop throwing caps.
    1. +1
      April 18 2022 17: 27
      The APU is primarily supported by US reconnaissance aircraft, from which more than one regrouping does not escape us.
    2. -2
      April 18 2022 19: 12
      I won’t be surprised at all if it turns out that Moscow was launched to the bottom by foreign missiles

    3. 0
      April 18 2022 23: 02
      Do you count people? Or does your gun shoot by itself?
  36. +1
    April 18 2022 16: 55
    Yes, Roman is exactly that. Everything is written correctly. And what about spare parts? We have 5 million households in Germany facing a power outage…. And gas...
    1. -1
      April 18 2022 18: 45
      so create a company and buy gas and electricity yourself (you know from whom)
  37. -1
    April 18 2022 18: 44
    Lies and concealment of facts are also dangerous weapons: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uMuDv6KdQKI
  38. +1
    April 18 2022 19: 38
    Something the author's settings went wrong. Previously, with or without reason, he was catching up with fear. Today, you see, military supplies to the enemy are so-so, it's okay. Of course, no one will be afraid, but they are not going to take it lightly either. The weapon still shoots and even kills.
  39. 0
    April 18 2022 19: 42
    Western bounties are not dangerous at all. In the hands of an idiot, even a fork is dangerous! The author burns!
  40. +1
    April 18 2022 19: 47
    Another wow article. It's just that I have another question. Why don't we hear anyone else besides Krasheninnikov? Where is Shoigu, where is the chief of the general staff?
  41. 0
    April 18 2022 20: 24
    What cynicism! There are no words.
  42. WWI
    +3
    April 18 2022 21: 18
    The last watches of the nouveaux riches are put on display by foreign mercenaries who are asked to exchange them for a bankrupt foreign country, whom they do not know and have not heard anything about. They are being pushed by internal enemies, trying to probe the mood of the audience and the reaction of the Russians to the immoral and monstrous deal. Raise your rating and hope among the world's bigwigs and hope for political and financial asylum.
    Russians, don't let your inner nouveau riches trade mercenaries for Ukrainian political bankrupt Medvedchuk. What side is it for Russia, if only as miles oner for the same as your nouveau riche (hand gilds hand). They don’t talk about your captured soldiers (and in fact, in words, they powder their brains that they don’t leave their own). These are grandiloquent words to powder the brains of those who listen with their ears and do not think with their brains. Do not let them abandon their own and forgive for the spilled blood. Internal nouveau riches can cause more trouble than those who openly fled the cordon. If you betray your defenders, many nations will turn away from you, including your neighbors.
    1. -1
      April 19 2022 13: 56
      Personally, as a Russian, no one will ask my opinion on this issue.
  43. 0
    April 19 2022 13: 55
    I did not expect something like this from R. Skomorokhov. A weapon is always a weapon, outdated or not. You won't care what they shot at you with, if they hit you, from the old "Grad" or some modern "Palladin".
  44. +5
    April 20 2022 03: 41
    Much has been written. But it was written by a person who obviously never even saw the old Leopard 1 in action, and NEVER lay in a trench when a 105mm shell flies nearby. Otherwise, the author would not have written such nonsense. the author has clearly never seen what the "obsolete" 303 cartridge does with the human femur. the author has never seen what a mine from an outdated 107mm mortar does with an average house. Otherwise, he would not write such nonsense. the author has never experienced the absolutely animal fear that you experience when you lie pressed into the sand and hide behind stones, and the "outdated" MG-42 is working on you and your platoon. the author is clearly not aware that the 105mm L7 cannon takes absolutely all modern tanks on board, and some will even take them head-on. the author is also not aware that 105mm L7 is deadly for infantry fighting vehicles / armored personnel carriers and others like them. The M900A1 projectile penetrates 570mm of rolled armor at 2km.
    Similar shells are made by the Germans, French and Israelis. Breaking through 570mm of armor at 2000km is "not scary", the fact that the L7 is distinguished by enviable accuracy is also "not scary" for the author (of course, sitting at home, away from the front, nothing is scary).
    The fact that on Leopard 1 the fire control systems were better than on contemporary Soviet models, the author is bashfully silent, and that if these fire control systems are inferior to modern Russian ones, then quite a bit, since it has been repeatedly said that in the Russian military budget - there is not enough money for everything you need .
    the author never sat in a tank in which the British "under-javelin", or MILAN, flew in. Otherwise, the affter would not have carried such nonsense "Don't panic, it's all junk." About what a "bad" Leopard 1 tank he will be able to tell only after he meets him and manages not only to survive, but also to knock him out. A good general, even in modern warfare, has a place for the M26, and for the T-55, and even for the ISU-152. Only an absolute layman can say that they say the AC90s, which were released in the 90s, later than many of the BMP-2s and other equipment participating in the war, were "outdated and capable of little."
    When the author lies in a trench along which a couple of "obsolete" AS-90 howitzers will work out, then and only then will he be able to say that these howitzers are "obsolete" and "it's not scary."
    This author seems outdated and not terrible. For me personally .. for me personally, I really would not want Leopards 1, AC90 to work in the trench where I am lying .. Damn, I don’t want Sherman to work in my trench. the author diligently downplays the capabilities of foreign weapons. The RF Ministry of Defense belittled the abilities of the Khokhol Bandera bastard under-wehrmacht, so what? The offensive bogged down, the Russian army suffered quite heavy losses, had to retreat and leave the population sympathetic to Russia in SUMAKH and other places for reprisals by the Ukronats and the Armed Forces of Ukraine and the SBU ... "but don't panic, everything is going according to plan." All these problems are all from underestimating the enemy, and here is another "EXPERT", consoling what they say is bullshit, all these weapons that the West has supplied. Naturally, for him this is "bullshit" because it is not for him to lie under fire from the Leopards and AC90. And it’s not for him to fly on turntables at which they will shoot back with Stingers and Starstrike (against the latter, the traps do not work from the word - at all). And it’s not an author to sit in a tank where Milan will fly in or there is a TOU or something. That's why he says "don't panic". the author forgot that such an attitude towards the enemy led to the raking of sickly stars both in 1905 and in 1941 (With little blood on foreign territory, our class brothers will revolt behind enemy lines. And the Germans' tanks are bad, only 30mm of armor, and their planes bad, and old howitzers, and grenades of the wrong system). That is, people like the author are very fond of jumping on the same rake. Underestimating the enemy is a direct road to defeat.

    On the other hand, he talks a lot about the destroyed oil storage facilities, while NOT A WORD saying that the main (90%) volume of Western military and material assistance to the Kiev regime, (including fuel), which lost over 70% of the weapons available on February 24, comes by iron road from western Ukraine (Lviv), bordering Poland and Slovakia. Vulnerabilities - three bridge crossings within the range of tactical missiles and airborne forces, which can be destroyed by three pinpoint strikes at known coordinates. In this case, communications that support the viability and military stability of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and the regime as a whole will be destroyed with the prospect of restoration at least a month or two. Alternative trucking by road does not compensate for the logistical disaster. However, this does not happen, just as many enterprises of the basic economic and defense structure controlled by Kiev avoid missile and bomb raids. For some strange reason (for the same reason that in World War II the US Air Force diligently avoided bombing some German factories, because American capitalists were either interested in these factories, or they were their partial owners, such as FORD owned part of the Focke Wulf, and therefore no one bombed Focke Wulf's factories.). Instead of talking about real problems, the author dismisses NATO weapons - they say garbage. Naturally, he does not threaten to fall under the distribution of these weapons at home on the couch. That's why he says "don't panic".

    There is no need to panic, of course. But to belittle the capabilities of Western weapons, be it Leopard 1, AC90, Javelin, Stinger, Starstreak, or at least Bluepipe, well, it’s not at all necessary. You need to think WHY these 3 main railway bridges have not yet been bombed. Yes, bridges are being restored, but it takes days. And reinforcements or ammunition that did not reach the troops on time - they don’t make the weather.

    the author jokes about "Volksturm with faustpatrons", completely forgetting what losses the Soviet Army suffered during the storming of Berlin. Including from Faustnikov. She is such a paper - she will endure everything. And since people have computers, any graphomaniac can write ANYTHING, and will write nonsense and nonsense faster than they will expose him, while he will call himself a "blogger" and "publicist".

    Actually, the whole peppy style of the author reminds me of a notebook that the notorious Cadet Bigler kept, signing as an officer ...
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    April 21 2022 00: 51
    If Western deliveries of military equipment to Ukraine continue, then hostilities may be delayed. The military potential of the West is higher than that of Russia. Therefore, we can really be "crushed" by all this old equipment, if there is a lot of it. And when it ends in western warehouses, deliveries of new equipment will begin. As a result, we will have a hard time. I agree with the author that destroying railway tracks is inefficient. You need to track the military trains and derail them.
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      April 23 2022 15: 40
      Judging by the picture of what is happening, there are not enough technical capabilities for tracking.
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    April 24 2022 16: 10
    The author has some kind of incomprehensible euphoria ...
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    April 24 2022 19: 59
    And what about railroad supplies of fuel from Moldova? There was a message recently
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