Russian Foreign Ministry: Moscow is not going to change power in Ukraine

Moscow is not going to change power in Ukraine. This is not part of the tasks of the special military operation it is conducting.

This statement was made by the official representative of the Russian Foreign Ministry Maria Zakharova during a briefing.

She noted that Russian troops are in Ukraine to protect the inhabitants of the DPR and LPR, to demilitarize and denazify Ukrainian territory. In addition, the special operation should eliminate the military threat from Ukraine, which is represented by the NATO countries actively developing this country. Part of this "development" is the active pumping of the Kiev regime weapons.

The armed forces of the Russian Federation solve precisely these tasks. They are not going to occupy Ukraine, or destroy its state structure, or overthrow the people who rule this country. Moreover, the actions of the Russian military are not directed against ordinary Ukrainian civilians.

Zakharova said that the Russian army is guided by the plan drawn up for it and strictly adheres to it.

The head of the press service of the Russian Foreign Ministry noted that what she had just said had been said before. Such repetitions are necessary to respond to the flow of disinformation that distorts the true intentions of the Russian leadership. The sources of such stuffing are, according to Zakharova, the secret services of Western countries.

Comments

[Hey]

What is it, to breed Natsiks again?

[Troll]

Of course not. Not Moscow, but the people will choose a new strong and updated, without Natsik, government.

[Civil]

Everything is simple here, to put the squeeze on Ukraine, today Peskov announced the main conditions: 1. Recognize Crimea as a region of Russia, recognize the DPR and LPR as independent states.
If everything is done, then peace is friendship to us and humiliation to the Ukrainians, and they themselves will finish off the Nazis (there, after our offensive, very few survived anyway). This requires Zelensky, whom the West recognizes. After that, all sanctions are lifted from us and universal happiness sets in.
But that's in theory. In fact, without the assault on Kyiv, Kharkov and Odessa, the Nazis and clowns will not discuss anything with Zelensky. Here questions arise - what to do with Ukraine in ruins and with our economy under sanctions ...

[Troll]

Sanctions will be lifted. Probably not all, but ok. many take pictures. Bo in the new elections in Europe will be won by those who promise gasoline for 1 euro, and not 2,3 as it is now.

[-Paul-]

Promises are not a problem for Western politicians.

[jovanni]

Quote: -Paul-

Promises are not a problem for Western politicians.

Campaign for any politicians is not a problem ...

[1Alexey]

Quote: Jovanni

Quote: -Paul-

Promises are not a problem for Western politicians.

Campaign for any politicians is not a problem ...

Yes, including for ours.
After all, they promised trials of Ukrainian criminals, of whom there are quite a few now in power in Ukraine, and now they are declaring that they will not change power.
How then will the promised judgments take place?

[DymOk_v_dYmke]

Quote: Civil

In fact, without the assault on Kyiv, Kharkov and Odessa, the Nazis and clowns will not discuss anything with Zelensky. Here questions arise - what to do with Ukraine in ruins and with our economy under sanctions ...

There is nothing to discuss with the Nazis and Zelensky even after the assault.
Zakharova with her logic will soon surpass Psaki:

Moscow is not going to change power in Ukraine. .. Russian troops are in Ukraine to protect the inhabitants of the DPR and LPR, demilitarize and denazify Ukrainian territory. .. The armed forces of the Russian Federation ... are not going to occupy Ukraine, or destroy its state structure, or overthrow the people who rule this country.

Denazification without overthrowing the Nazi elite is enchanting "psakism".

Almost Hamlet's unsolvable: A cross or shorts - that's the question!

[Arian]

Tyuyuyu, how quickly ours were blown away, then there are no negotiations with these people, and now there is no goal to change the fascist government, apparently Kedmi was right, the situation at the front is a dead end, if not worse (

[DymOk_v_dYmke]

Quote: Arian

Tyuyuyu, how quickly ours were blown away, then there are no negotiations with these people, and now there is no goal to change the fascist government, apparently Kedmi was right, the situation at the front is a dead end, if not worse (

Tanks ran into oligarchic pockets.

[Paranoid50]

Quote: DymOk_v_dYmke

Tanks rested

Here, it seems that many have rested in the brain ... but these are not tanks.

[lisiy prapor]

Quote: Arian

Tyuyuyu, how quickly ours were blown away, then there are no negotiations with these people, and now there is no goal to change the fascist government, apparently Kedmi was right, the situation at the front is a dead end, if not worse (

Yeah, but for the debts of this fascist government, who will pay then? Nafig, nafig, let them recognize what we ask, they will tighten their tail and then themselves, themselves.

[Arian]

Yours - in a couple of years it will be the same, a horde of Nazis armed to the teeth with Western weapons, and a lot of blood, HPP and other attempts to pull an owl on the globe begin again, haven’t they learned anything in 8 years

[Arian]

They started to fight - you need to fight, and not dance with a tambourine, when an enemy who wants to kill you is against you - speak, do not speak, there will be no sense

[aglet]

"Yours yourself - in a couple of years it will be the same"
totally agree with you. to prevent this from happening, Ukraine will have to be annexed, preferably all. those who do not want to buy a ticket to Warsaw and not be allowed back. otherwise, it's all useless

[Alex777]

Quote: aglet

Ukraine will have to join

Bad things should not be said, but done.

Today we are not going to change the government yet, but tomorrow we
may not be left with a choice. The GDP warned everyone about this.

[kirosi]

"tomorrow we may not be left with a choice"
You might think that we had and still have it. Actually, the operation was started involuntarily, if we hadn't started, they would have started, and it would have been orders of magnitude bloodier. And now, there are no options either. How can you denazify while leaving the Nazis in power?

[Alex777]

You apparently didn't read the second quote carefully.
Of course it is necessary to demolish the "gang of drug addicts." But not yet
be sure to talk about it. Only and everything.

[Flooding]

Quote: Arian

how quickly ours was blown away, then no negotiations with these people

power will be denazified as well as all of Ukraine

Quote: Arian

apparently Kedmi was right, the situation at the front is a dead end, if not worse

can you help with the search for these words Kedmi?
I can not find

[Arian]

Hammer in the search for Yakov Kedmi - the operation is delayed

[Flooding]

Quote: Arian

Hammer in the search for Yakov Kedmi - the operation is delayed

Kedmi's main idea is "nothing is clear"
this is an analyst from Israel
a state that will fit at least 5 times on Ukrainian territory already controlled by Russian troops

explain to me about the "dead end"

[Arian]

And he also says that during the operation not a single large city was taken, that the fascist power was not dispersed anywhere, that the offensive faded and turned into positional battles - is he somewhere wrong?

[Arian]

And given the rapid growth of hatred (not suppressed coming out - propaganda), the insane pumping of the most modern weapons, time is working against us, and not vice versa, that's the problem

[Flooding]

Quote: Arian

And he also says that during the operation not a single large city was taken, that the fascist power was not dispersed anywhere, that the offensive faded and turned into positional battles - is he somewhere wrong?

Kherson taken
but you didn't answer my question
what is the impasse?

[Arian]

not a single large city has been taken, the fascist power has not been dispersed anywhere, there has been no advance in a week, the Armed Forces of Ukraine are regrouping and counterattacks are going on - in your opinion, this is not a dead end, but a victory?

[Arian]

As for Kherson - if you remember, it was surrendered almost without a fight, by agreement with the local administration

[Flooding]

Quote: Arian

no major city taken

300 thousand population - a considerable town
about progress in almost all areas are regularly informed

[Arian]

By modern standards, the city is very average, but let's go further - Kharkov? - no, Poltava - no, Odessa - no, Dnepropetrovsk - no, Sumy, Chernihiv - no, Mariupol - no, Nikolaev - no, Kyiv is not even completely blocked, mercenaries are pouring in crowds and carrying weapons

[Arian]

Advancing 5 km a day and taking three villages - two fences, three boards, which, I am quite sure, no one defended

[Arian]

Well, did I say something that is not true, I understand, for a cheer - a patriot, this is pain, I will answer - as for a patriot, this is pain for me too, because if everything goes badly, the war will come to us

[Repellent]

Quote: Arian

if things go wrong, war will come to us

You slept, molt. To you - the war has already come. Taras, damn it, bulba.

[Arian]

Where - from Moscow? There is no war here, only maidan fools walk around (they only cause disgust) - I am only against complacency and rose-colored glasses, but my name is definitely not Taras

[Repellent]

Quote: Arian

I'm just against complacency and rose-colored glasses

So take off the blue ones, but rather go and serve ... now it's a year of everything, about nothing ... but the brains will fall into place, me guarantee

[Arian]

Comrade, I served 10, and you?

[Repellent]

Quote: Arian

Comrade, I served 10, and you?

Continue the sequence: comrade, where ...? It is possible in a personal.

What did they serve, to whom and where? And when?

Maybe I will. Although, according to your records here - hardly.

[Arian]

I continue: comrade, you either argue the statement, or do not clog the chat, about the service - in general, you are not obliged to answer, but so be it: he served in Russia, in the signal troops, first on p161, then on p 166, who needs it, they will understand

[Arian]

Whether you believe me or not, I assure you it doesn't bother me.

[Radius]

Colleague! I started with the R-140 urgent. How native!

[Arian]

Can you object to something? Or will we become like the enemy?

[Arian]

Summarizing what I have said above - unfortunately, many of us cannot understand that they have begun to fight - it means that we must fight without letting out pink snot, and without ceremony with the enemy, otherwise you simply won’t win, why these strange statements, obviously doomed negotiations, etc.? - set goals - achieve, scumbags and beasts are against us, we will lose, we will show weakness - they will come to us

[Repellent]

Quote: Arian

many of us cannot understand that they started to fight, which means that we must fight without letting pink snot in and without ceremony with the enemy, otherwise you simply won’t win

Thoughts of a schoolboy from worlddoftanks... how familiar, how many of you have been here already

Quote: Arian

why these strange statements, obviously doomed negotiations, etc.?

The entire Ministry of Foreign Affairs of the Russian Federation is stupider than you ... I want to believe, but for some reason it does not grow together ...

Quote: Arian

set goals - achieve

Slippery without snotty ones, they themselves have a runny nose (c)

Quote: Arian

show weakness - they will come to us

And they will remain. Among the coffins that are not alien to them. It has happened before, and it looks like it will happen again.

[Arian]

So is there something going on or not? (I suspect not)

[Repellent]

Quote: Arian

So is there something going on or not?

Will be, will be. You will be a barbecue

[Arian]

This is fake, in the case it means there is nothing to say, it happens

[Repellent]

Quote: Arian

It's navryatli

It's easy. Come on. RIP

[Arian]

And to you in peace) be healthy

[sustav75]

Our commercials for another five years will carry out their demilitarization. The war begins to grow strange. Already in every Russian city there are funerals of soldiers and officers! In Avgan, 11 were lost in 15 years, and here in two weeks, by all accounts, more than a thousand killed and several thousand wounded! And Putin broadcasts that everything is going according to plan. Such losses in manpower and equipment is his plan?!!!

[DymOk_v_dYmke]

Arian, look at brief daily reviews by Yuri Podolyak and many questions will disappear from you.
For example, about battle tactics:

[Arian]

I watched and not once, did it occur to you that this is also an element of propaganda?

[Sadam]

Unsubscribed from him. Every day the same thing, we'll take it tomorrow

[DymOk_v_dYmke]

Quote: Arian

I watched and not once, did it occur to you that this is also an element of propaganda?

It seems to me that he is simply friendly with the head and conscience.
If in some way his position coincides with the position of the propaganda of one of the parties - perhaps the propaganda in these moments does not lie.

[Flooding]

Quote: Arian

By today's standards, the city is quite average.

You are here

CLASSIFICATION AND TYPOLOGY OF CITIES

http://www.mstu.edu.ru/science/conferences/11ntk/materials/section8/section8_35.html

"Cities with a population of 50-100 thousand people can be called medium-sized cities, cities with a population of over 100 thousand people traditionally belong to large cities, and cities with a population of less than 50 thousand people - to small ones."

[Radius]

Fine. Why take cities and forts? And let the mercenaries go. Chernozems will become fatter.

[Arian]

Without the capture of cities, one cannot win the operation, power, military and economic potential are concentrated in cities

[DymOk_v_dYmke]

Quote: Arian

Without the capture of cities, one cannot win the operation, power, military and economic potential are concentrated in cities

What do you understand by the term "take"?
The task is to establish control with a minimum of casualties and destruction.

PS US took Hiroshima and Nagasaki or incinerated in your opinion?
Such methods never suited us and never do.

[Alex777]

Kedmi never had such a situation as now in Mariupol. When most of the advancing fighters
LDNR in the city of families and relatives.
Therefore, the Nazis do not let civilians out of the city.
In this particular case, both the concentration of forces and a careful attitude towards the population are needed. Otherwise it won't work.
The Armed Forces say correctly: how will we lose Mariupol,
so we will lose all of Ukraine.
The battle for Mariupol, IMHO, is the main one in the Russian operation.
Therefore, the rest of our cities are not touched yet - early.
The control of the APU is broken, they are already
have neither the strength nor the resources. Passive defense will not help them avoid defeat. Reinforcements that come from Western Ukraine are being unwound by aviation. Easily.

[Arian]

I will object to you - they are not released, because they are their human shield, they will not be released under any circumstances, because as soon as the civilians come out, bombs will fall on them. I partly agree with you on this particular situation regarding the accumulation of forces, but do the military personnel of our army really have relatives in Kharkov or in Nikolaev, for example? I doubt

[Alex777]

Quote: Arian

I will object to you - they are not released, because they are their human shield

I see no reason to object. Yes, alive
shield of relatives. He is very efficient.

Quote: Arian

do the military personnel of our army have relatives in Kharkov or in Nikolaev, for example? I doubt

The corps of the LDNR are advancing on Mariupol. At the beginning of the operation, there were many interviews in which the fighters said that they were going home to their families and that they
have not seen their families for 8 years. It's not about the Russian
army in general, but about specific Russians from the LDNR ...

[Arian]

I apologize, apparently at first I did not quite understand your idea. But - about the capture of Mariupol as the most important part of our operation - I do not agree, the fashier squeals like that, because they are waiting, suddenly they will be rescued, this is work for the public. In the current situation, the capture of Kharkov is much more important (both as an economic and
logistics center, and as a symbol of resistance), as well as Nikolaev and Odessa. But we will see, now we are waiting for the 2nd phase of the operation, I hope mistakes and shortcomings will be taken into account, we had a lot of them

[Alex777]

Quote: Arian

In the current situation, the capture of Kharkov is much more important (both as an economic and
logistics center, and as a symbol of resistance)

A lot of forces are concentrated in Mariupol, for the reasons already described. The capture of Mariupol will lead to its complete cleansing - everyone knows everyone and to the release of the necessary forces for action in other directions. And in Kherson, where there was no denazification yet, and in the cities you listed.

[Arian]

In Mariupol, according to various sources, there are about 6-8 thousand troops of the Armed Forces of Ukraine (I don’t write about the national battalions, they are an integral part of the Armed Forces of Ukraine), but the fact is that the city is blocked and the troops stationed there have apparently already been written off, their goal is to sit as long as possible and inflict as many losses as possible on the forces of our army and the corps of the people's militia. The same Kharkov - they write that it is not even completely blocked, Western mercenaries went there a couple of days ago and brought a large batch of weapons, including MANPADS. That is, the longer time drags on, the greater will be the losses during the assault (((that's what saddens.

[Alex777]

Quote: Arian

The same Kharkov - they write that it is not even completely blocked, Western mercenaries went there a couple of days ago and brought a large batch of weapons, including MANPADS.

There is no reliable information on Kharkov.
At first, everyone writes that ours covered Azov.
Then they write that it was the Armed Forces of Ukraine that covered Azov for
disobeying orders.
They also write that in the wreckage of the administration
found our living fighter. And allegedly he is one of the negotiators for the surrender of Kharkov. Fog.

[Radius]

And what did you want? What would the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation fuck, tibidohnuli and that's it? That doesn't happen.

[Arian]

Frankly speaking (dreaming is not harmful, of course), yes, if it’s no joke, I want more competent planning, greater concentration of forces and means, as well as the absence of empty negotiations and days of silence, which will only strengthen the enemy and create additional problems for us in the future

[Paranoid50]

Quote: Arian

where is he wrong?

He is wrong anywhere. This is not a combat commander, but a "knight of the sling and dagger", at the moment he is a "retired goat analyst" at all.

[Arian]

Yes, it’s not about his analytics or anything else, he voiced things that many people think about, especially after the start of the second week of the operation, I still really hope that he is wrong, I really want to believe, but so far, unfortunately, it doesn’t come out

[Arian]

For two weeks, the results of the operation are such that not a single large military formation of the Armed Forces of Ukraine was defeated. Yes, there are tactical and even operational successes, but no strategic ones.
This is due to a blow in several directions at once, without concentrating efforts on one of them. There is no cauldron to Donbass, and for many days in a row separate units of the Armed Forces of Ukraine have been leaving it unhindered in the direction of the Dnieper.

- here is Strelkov's opinion on this matter

[Alex777]

Quote: Paranoid50

This is not a combat commander, but a "knight of the sling and dagger"

Yakov Kedmi went through the Yom Kippur War in the battalion of Ehud Barak, in the same tank with the future prime minister

[Repellent]

Quote: DymOk_v_dYmke

A cross or shorts, that's the question!

Well, judging by the cheerfully pulled phrases of "quotes" - you are just shorts

The cross is not about you.

[aybolyt678]

Quote: DymOk_v_dYmke

Denazification without overthrowing the Nazi elite is enchanting "psakism".

maybe it's a forced statement? maybe we're not going according to plan?

[Repellent]

Quote: aybolyt678

Quote: DymOk_v_dYmke

Denazification without overthrowing the Nazi elite is enchanting "psakism".

maybe it's a forced statement? maybe we're not going according to plan?

This is a forced statement from Dymka, since it (Dymko) didn’t hear what they said, but they misunderstood what they wrote on VO

Do not be fooled, everything is exactly there, with denazification.

[Hariton laptev]

As soon as we make peace, all the shells will come out right there. The task is at least a Russian-controlled zone from Kharkov to Prednistrovie. With the entry of Kyiv. This is a minimum and then a risk, since the unfinished Natsiks will immediately climb and history will make a circle. It is clear that it is not here and not for me to make decisions, but the fascist evil spirits must be crushed

[CYM]

Here questions arise - what to do with Ukraine in ruins and with our economy under sanctions ...

Return Ukraine without LDNR to the owners (USA) and say that it was so, demanding the lifting of sanctions for this. And let them arrange the Marshall Plan for Ukraine, it will take 10 years and a lot of enemy resources. IMHO, Russia would not have pulled Ukraine even in its entirety and without sanctions: huge external debts, large social obligations, mass unemployment, the Chernobyl nuclear power plant, Bandera partisans, etc.

[Alemax]

And then all over again??? No. Get out, sir!

[Alemax]

Chota like the bots, apparently, minus))) and so the idea is correct. Of course, if we rake up all the industrial and industrial points, we will crawl out of this sewer.. But the problem is that they are used to freebies.. And this is OUR taxes and money. The oligarchs will not invest, with rare exceptions, again, through the state budget.. A dilemma, however. On the other hand, if everything is adjusted in our favor, including Yuzhmash and Ukrainian agriculture, I am ready to tighten my belt for a couple of years. The main thing is that the border with Poland is controlled by the FSB of the Russian Federation.

[Ashes of Claes]

Quote: Troll

Not Moscow, but the people will choose a new strong and updated, without Natsik, government.

Yep, now. The people do not elect the government.
The next presidential election is in 2024.

[Troll]

Well .. let there be no government, but power. The point is not that, the point is that it is not Moscow that appoints.

[Ashes of Claes]

Quote: Troll

The point is not that, the point is that it is not Moscow that appoints.

I won't be surprised if Zelenkind is elected for a second term.

[Yura]

Quote: Ashes of Klaas

I won't be surprised if Zelenkind is elected for a second term.

The question is whether the first term will last, impeachment is an effective thing if you deal with this issue closely.

[Sadam]

Zelya is a hero there now. I didn’t pull like Vitka with loaves. Yes, a bad manager in peacetime, but they united around him

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Troll

but the people will choose a new strong and updated, without Natsik government.

There were six Nazis, the seventh will become a "communist" with a population that has already absorbed the "new" ideology. As it was, it will be so, but "there is not enough money" for denazification. You can simply reduce this structure numerically.

[cat Rusich]

Quote: Troll

Of course not. Not Moscow, but the people will choose a new strong and updated, without Natsik, government.

[cat Rusich]

Quote: cat Rusich

Quote: Troll

Of course not. Not Moscow, but the people will choose a new strong and updated, without Natsik, government.

In the course of the case, Zelensky will be re-elected for a second term ...
Not funny, they say on TV that they were seriously developing in Ukraine biological weapons - and the authorities in Ukraine do not plan to change
Along the way, it is planned "Minsk-3" - sadly, all the labors of our heroes are in vain.

[Thrifty]

MJD - yes, not again, but again! If this is true, then all the victims are in vain! A couple of years will pass, we will get NATO Ukraine with nuclear weapons, and Russia with the same sanctions, with the same slander against us, with the same Russophobia, NATO troops on our borders ... The Kremlin's decision is at least strange ...

[Vladimirets]

Denazification is a process so confusing that it can never be completed at all)))

[Akuzenka]

Denazification is a process so confusing that it can never be completed at all)))

And you don't have to finish it.

[Misha Honest]

Quote: AKuzenka

And you don't have to finish it.

It is necessary - and without question.

[Ru_Na]

It seems that a squabble has begun among our elite, so such muddy statements have gone, as if they didn’t give it back at all (

[YOUR]

Exactly. As Deripaska howled, we are finished, we urgently need to withdraw troops. Tinkov noted. They do not like restrictions, they are afraid of sanctions. The same Deripaska, as soon as his Americans pressed him, gave them all the power stations that were under the cellar.
And how many have already been detained in Vnukovo with suitcases of currency. Bank transfers were no longer possible, they decided to personally take out the honestly stolen by business jets. But the money is not withdrawn, only deployed back. What's not clear.

[Paranoid50]

Quote: YOUR

As Deripaska howled, we are finished, we urgently need to withdraw troops. Tinkov noted. They do not like restrictions, they are afraid of sanctions.

Well, this is not how sketches are made - that's how much you can carry this soiled hat?!. Who are these two organisms anyway? "Ruchechnik" and "Bubble" said something there, and in the lobby? What for one, what for the other, now is the time to sit under the bench and not shine - and they are trying to "raise to the shield" here. Thoroughly, thoroughly.

[Flooding]

It's interesting to watch how the champions of democracy perked up.

[Ural resident]

Quote: YOUR

Exactly. As Deripaska howled, we are finished, we urgently need to withdraw troops. Tinkov noted. They do not like restrictions, they are afraid of sanctions. The same Deripaska, as soon as his Americans pressed him, gave them all the power stations that were under the cellar.
And how many have already been detained in Vnukovo with suitcases of currency. Bank transfers were no longer possible, they decided to personally take out the honestly stolen by business jets. But the money is not withdrawn, only deployed back. What's not clear.

I will never forgive Deripaska for buying part of the Black Sea coast, where I and thousands of people spent their holidays every year. Along with rivers, mountains and bases. Now it is a private territory and a personal hunting ground.

[YOUR]

Here you go. And where is our legislation, which refers to the prohibition of the acquisition of the coastal zone in private hands.

[Akuzenka]

These can. For the "ride of the yacht" we will easily be handed over and caved in.

[Misha Honest]

Quote: AKuzenka

These can. For the "ride of the yacht" we will easily be handed over and caved in.

So act, and do not write useless comments ....

[Akuzenka]

So act, and do not write useless comments ....

Already. That provoked you.

[DymOk_v_dYmke]

Quote: Thrifty

The Kremlin's decision is at least strange ...

More like a stupor and no solution.

[vitvit123]

What are the indications for this?

[DymOk_v_dYmke]

Quote: vitvit123

What are the indications for this?

Even the grandfathers knew how the pursuit of two hares ends, but the choice has not been made.
Well, or not presented.

[lisiy prapor]

Here the grandfathers just had a tight idea. At one time, they grabbed half of Europe for themselves, and the most bombed-out part, they restored it at their own expense, although they themselves ate the last member without a preservative, and then these liberated us in chorus betrayed us. And what's the point?

[DO]

At one time, they grabbed half of Europe for themselves, and the most bombed-out part, they restored it at their own expense, although they themselves ate the last member without a preservative, and then these liberated us in chorus betrayed us.

Yes. But what are the implications?
Send troops back? This means not only even more sanctions, but also a very likely aggression against Russian territory. The weak are beaten.
There may be another conclusion from the betrayal of the countries liberated by our grandfathers. Having completed the demilitarization of Ukraine, never stop its denazification. Having made appropriate political decisions. Without looking back at the West, which, no matter what the outcome, will remain hostile to independent Russia.

[your1970]

Quote: DO

Having completed the demilitarization of Ukraine, never stop its denazification.

That is, hang / shoot?

[DO]

That is, hang / shoot?

The question about the penalties for criminals should be addressed to the legislation that will be in force on the territory of Ukraine after its demilitarization.
If it is not clear what I wrote above, then I mean the spread of the entire system of state power of the Russian Federation to the entire territory of Ukraine. Indefinitely, without the right to exit.

[vitvit123]

Be more specific, please explain .., otherwise you are a master of fog ...

[DymOk_v_dYmke]

Quote: vitvit123

Be more specific, please explain .., otherwise you are a master of fog ...

It is difficult to please the interests of the "electorate" (and Crimea and Donbass alone - several million) and at the same time to please the wallets of the oligarchy.
Here is the race for two hares.

[vitvit123]

And how are the oligarchs catered to? Previously, you accused Putin that he would endure all the vilification of Russia from the West, because he was afraid of losing something and the oligarchs would never let Putin defend the Russian world, because. they are all overseas! Well, it turns out that Putin decided to defend the Russian world and your predictions turned out to be wrong ..

[Sadam]

Not the worst option if they recognize the Crimea and the LDNR and a neutral status. And finish with all this chaos until they themselves fell apart and try to rewind the sanctions. Yes, a shame, but it will be even worse a month a year

[Repellent]

Quote: DymOk_v_dYmke

Quote: Thrifty

The Kremlin's decision is at least strange ...

More like a stupor and no solution.

Do you only read VO? And Thrifty? Then you are very sorry

[Thrifty]

Reppellent, thick troll! I really don’t feel sorry for you, and if you are not able to understand what you read or heard, your business is bad

[Repellent]

Quote: Thrifty

if you can't understand what you read

Unlike you, I try to read the original speeches, and not their rehashings on mound IN.

Quote: Thrifty

your business is bad

Kill your forehead against the wall, the world will not lose anything. IMHO.

[Thrifty]

Repellent - I'll catch a cold at your funeral, but it's time for you to go back to ward number six to Napoleon

[Repellent]

Quote: Thrifty

I'll catch a cold at your funeral

Dreaming is not bad. Go drink "cognac" from the refrigerator

[Paranoid50]

Quote: Repellent

Kill your forehead against the wall, the world will not lose anything

Colleague, kill them, well, holy fools. So, it seems, the body is funny, but quickly tires.

[DymOk_v_dYmke]

Quote: Repellent

Quote: Thrifty
if you can't understand what you read

Unlike you, I try to read the original speeches, and not their rehashings on the VO mound.

Lying is not good.
If you had read the briefing (in general, by the way, very normal, but a meager part was torn out on VO), you would not litter the Forum with your posts, but would offer a link.
OK. help.
At double speed, it will take you ~45 minutes to watch.
[media=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dYr8yQpsQ_M]

[Repellent]

Quote: DymOk_v_dYmke

Lying is not good

Like from now on, plz. And where did I fool someone?

Quote: DymOk_v_dYmke

OK. help.
Watching at double speed will take you ~45 minutes

For the future - the right guys usually write, since when do you listen. You are past.

[DymOk_v_dYmke]

Quote: Repellent

Like from now on, plz. And where did I fool someone?

Quote: DymOk_v_dYmke

If you read the briefing (in general, by the way, very normal, but a scanty part was torn out on VO), - you ... would offer a link.

And they wouldn't ask

Quote: Repellent

since when to listen.

Literally the first few minutes.

[Repellent]

So... young man. This is not what I wanted, this is what you wanted.

Quote: DymOk_v_dYmke

Lying is not good

I repeat the question: Where, in what place, did I deceive someone here? Don't move out, it won't roll.

[Misha Honest]

Quote: DymOk_v_dYmke

More like a stupor and no solution.

Yes, in general...

[Repellent]

Read the original Zakharova's statement.

Quote: Thrifty

If it's true

It not true, this is another journalist hype catches.

[Paranoid50]

Quote: Repellent

this is another journalist hype catches.

Even simpler is diplomatic language. Well, the people of MGIMO did not graduate, and this is normal. Tomorrow they will embarrassedly shuffle their feet: "Oh, we got it all wrong .." And now let them cry - it can be useful.

[Repellent]

Quote: Paranoid50

Even easier - it's diplomatic language

No. This is "journalistic" distortion. Add a couple of words, remove a couple - and here you are new reality (tm).

Well, they live from this, they want to eat ... so that they have a piece of stake across their throats

[Paranoid50]

Quote: Repellent

Well, they live from this, they want to eat ...

Well, this goes without saying, but there is also a play of wording here.

[Thrifty]

Repellent - either you confirm your words, or you are simply lying blatantly !!!

[Repellent]

Quote: Thrifty

Repellent - either you confirm your words, or you are simply lying blatantly !!!

Or not.

Have you run out of internet tickets? It doesn't look like your activity...

Forward, to the mines - find the original of what is said, and, if the intellect is enough, compare it with what is written in the "article". Generals, damn it, cardboard

[DymOk_v_dYmke]

Quote: Repellent

Have you run out of internet tickets? It doesn't look like your activity...

Forward, to the mines - find the original of what is said, and, if the intellect is enough, compare it with what is written in the "article". Generals, damn it, cardboard

Yes, and you seem to be without a limit.
The link to the briefing is above.
Takes ~45 minutes at double speed.
Quoted in the note - in the first minutes.

[Alexey Sommer]

Quote: Repellent

This is not true, this is another journalist hype catches.

You talk a lot.
Let's get the original.

[Repellent]

Quote: Alexey Sommer

let's go original

With "let's" - to his wife. original online. By the way, I already cited a quote from there in the commentary, you need to find it. How to find bread

[Alexey Sommer]

You are not Zakharova to carry a blizzard and there is no one to ask you like.
Throw a link to the original smart guy. )
don't talk nonsense...

[Repellent]

Quote: Alexey Sommer

Throw a link to the original smart guy

There are hundreds of you here. Each sommer on the link - half a day of life. Do I need it? It's easier to send another unit

[Alexey Sommer]

Quote: Repellent

There are hundreds of you here.

You are not too lazy to write me a unique text, but is it difficult to copy the link?
I do not understand.

[Repellent]

Quote: Alexey Sommer

I do not understand

Quote: Repellent

It's easier to send another unit

Still don't understand? Okay:

The occupation of Ukraine, the destruction of its statehood and the overthrow of the current government are not among the tasks of Russia's special operation in the country, Russian Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Maria Zakharova said during a briefing.

  link

https://www.vedomosti.ru/politics/news/2022/03/09/912690-zaharova-sverzhenie-vlasti-ukraine

Compare with what is in the article, and what the local herd chews with rapture (c):

Moscow is not going to change power in Ukraine. This is not part of the tasks of the special military operation it is conducting.

Such a statement made the official representative of the Russian Foreign Ministry Maria Zakharova during a briefing

Find three differences. It is clear to me personally that such a statement no one, anywhere, ever did

[Alexey Sommer]

Quote: Repellent

Find three differences.

Ok
Let's see, we'll see.
I mean that having taken off your head, you don’t cry for your hair.
They began to put pressure, which means to put pressure at any cost.
People will understand.

[Repellent]

Quote: Alexey Sommer

I mean that having taken off your head, you don’t cry for your hair

I will not say anything against folk wisdom.

Quote: Alexey Sommer

They began to press, it means to press at any cost

Plus. My Kantemirovka is fighting there now, damn it ...

[Alexey Sommer]

Quote: Repellent

Plus. My Kantemirovka is fighting there now, damn it ...

Sorry.
But I don't believe you.

[Repellent]

Quote: Alexey Sommer

I do not believe you

Well, sorry. I won't send scans of my ID and my number. Over, go through the forest. You've already been sent twice, in case you haven't noticed.

[Alexey Sommer]

Quote: Repellent

You've already been sent twice, in case you haven't noticed.

I didn’t notice.

[Repellent]

Quote: Alexey Sommer

Didn't notice

Good luck on the road

[Alexey Sommer]

Quote: Repellent

Good luck on the road

Thanks for the warning.
I will try.

[DymOk_v_dYmke]

Quote: Alexey Sommer

You talk a lot.
Let's get the original.

I gave him a link to the briefing above, since he can't.
And the hype, yes, they catch both the journalist and Repellent.

[Repellent]

Quote: DymOk_v_dYmke

And the hype, yes, both the journalist and the Repellant catch

Forest, young man ... forest

[Alexey Sommer]

Quote: Repellent

Forest, young man ... forest

Good luck, health and all the best.

[lis-ik]

Quote: Thrifty

MJD - yes, not again, but again! If this is true, then all the victims are in vain! A couple of years will pass, we will get NATO Ukraine with nuclear weapons, and Russia with the same sanctions, with the same slander against us, with the same Russophobia, NATO troops on our borders ... The Kremlin's decision is at least strange ...

Minsk-3, his mother. Why was it necessary to start everything, to substitute the country and the people, if there is no will to finish everything as it should.

[Enemy]

if there is Minsk-3, then the war will stretch for decades.
The main task of the Minsk dubious truce, which was organized by Lukashenko, is to help his independent friend Poroshenko stop the advance of the militias and the liberation of Donbass from independence

[Incomprehensible]

Quote: MUD

What is it, to breed Natsiks again?

After the completion of two "DE" in Ukraine, the power will change *automatically*. The Russian Foreign Ministry simply did not finish.

[Fitter65]

Quote: MUD

What is it, to breed Natsiks again?

Like suckers while the operation is going on.

Moscow is not going to change power in Ukraine. This is not part of the tasks of the special military operation it is conducting.

The change of power in Ukraine is not included in the operation plan. But no one said what would happen to Ukraine after the operation. During the operation, we will definitely not change anything. Even an experienced surgeon cannot always say exactly what and how it wakes up with the operated person. Doctor, can I play the violin after the operation? Of course you can! What a wonderful operation, before I didn’t know how to hold the violin at all, but after the operation I can play it.

[Zakirov Damir]

Quote: MUD

What is it, to breed Natsiks again?

Masha drank too much for the holiday and did not understand what she blurted out.

[Paranoid50]

Quote: Damir Zakirov

and she did not understand what she blurted out.

Is that all the brain was able to generate?

[Zakirov Damir]

Quote: Paranoid50

Quote: Damir Zakirov

and she did not understand what she blurted out.

Is that all the brain was able to generate?

Something is not enough minuses, where is the activity, gentlemen?
As for the "brains", there are a lot of emotional comments, but there are few well-thought-out ones!

[Repellent]

Quote: Damir Zakirov

As for the "brains", there are a lot of emotional comments, but there are few well-thought-out ones!

Nothing to comment. Read the originals, not rehashings of "authors" from VO. Minus

[Real Pilot]

Let's think about it.
Power after all is different - from central to local. And each has its own approach, and the word "power" is one.

And a certain category of managers cannot be touched, otherwise people will have to be brought there down to the lowest level. Those who organize the everyday life of society should begin to cooperate with us locally.
Up to the mayors and governors, who at this stage must be loyal. For whom they will be replaced over time through elections - we'll see.

Before the new elections, time must pass for reassurance and understanding, otherwise they will again choose different evil spirits on our and their heads.
First, Russian TV, discounts on a communal apartment and other social steps.

Plus, people's anger needs to be redirected in the right direction, because after the war, society always burns with it. The true culprits must be exposed. Then it will be easier to cope with the current gang with the support of the population.

[RED_ICE]

Putin initially said that the government will choose the people of Ukraine

[Maz]

It's scary to hear this, maybe you misunderstood?

[yehat2]

they promise to choose the right bees that don't need honey.

[Aleksandr75]

That's right! Some will run away, some will be imprisoned for war crimes. And there will be a new government.

[Ashes of Claes]

Quote: Aleksandr75

some will be imprisoned for war crimes

who will plant it?

[Thrifty]

The ashes of Klaas-members of the forum will be imprisoned ... The Kremlin then told us, black from itself, white, directly, we are satisfied with the nationalist and the Zelensky sykly, let us go further, that is, Russia drinks blood, and shakes the nerves ...

[Paranoid50]

Quote: Thrifty

The Kremlin then told us, black from himself, white, that we are satisfied with the nationalist and the syklo Zelensky,

Uuu... Yes, it's quite a trouble here... Good people, someone, splash a glass of glass on a person - maybe it will get a little cold?

[Thrifty]

Paranoid50-have sunk, you want to drink, but there’s nothing for it? Go, work, earn money for drinks and snacks .I, unlike you, do not burn with the desire to drink alcohol, and I have a canister of Derbent cognac in my refrigerator

[Paranoid50]

Quote: Thrifty

in the refrigerator there is a canister of Derbent cognac

This is normal, but it would be better if there was a Russian Language textbook on the shelf, yeah.

[Thrifty]

Paranoid 50-keyboard on a smartphone is too small, there are misses, yeah

[Paranoid50]

Quote: Thrifty

Smartphone keyboard is too small

Gon - SO miss only alternatively literate organisms.

[Asad]

Exactly what is everyone excited about? Zakharova on February 15 and 16 claimed that there would be no special operation, so what? It's too early to draw conclusions.

[vitvit123]

It's called, "dances" began, in the sense here in VO ... Who has any signs? ... what has changed? pull an owl on a globe "! To some, all sorts of signs of the surrender of the military operation immediately began to seem, and now we need to say again that Putin leaked everything ...

[Paranoid50]

Quote: vitvit123

but on VO you need to start "pulling an owl on a globe"

Here again, nothing but the banal: Philistines, sir ...

[Aleksandr75]

For example, the tribunals of the republics of the LPR and the DPR, and maybe in Russia, will be judged.

[DymOk_v_dYmke]

Quote: Ashes of Klaas

who will plant it?

Themselves.

[Kapral Alphych]

And what, now every 5 years we will go there to "demilitarize" and denazify "? Some kind of crap is being carried in the Kremlin

[Gardamir]

Immediately, too, was indignant like you. But I remembered something recent. Russia was accused of preparing an attack on Ukraine. Russia did not attack. just went to demilitarize the Armed Forces of Ukraine.

So most likely Moscow will not change the government. But other people will be in power.

[Third district]

Quote: Gardamir

So most likely Moscow will not change the government. But other people will be in power.

Grandma wondered, for two she said -
Either rain or snow
Either it will or it won't.

[Paranoid50]

Quote: Gardamir

Russia did not attack. just went to demilitarize the Armed Forces of Ukraine.

Exactly. By the way, the UN recommended its employees not to use such terms as "war" and "invasion" in relation to the special operation of the RF Armed Forces in dill. For, according to all legal standards, this event corresponds precisely to a special operation. How... On the one hand unexpected, on the other - logical.

[Enemy]

independence must be destroyed throughout the post-Soviet space!

[Kosta153]

Well, you are like children right. Of course there will be pro-Russian. And now they say so as not to be nervous.

[Paranoid50]

Quote: Kosta153

And now they say so as not to be nervous.

So, got nervous... But others - reading headlines diagonally.

[kamarada]

I don't get it either? Leave all those in power who still support the Natsiks. Yes, they collapsed from the oak there. Not a single pole and fence painted in railway. b. The color should not remain. No hymns or flogs. All who support and speak out for Banderstan for educational work. Otherwise, it won't be 5 years. In half a year, the puppies will go to war again.

[your1970]

Quote: Kamarada

All who support and speak out for Banderstan for educational work

Up to 5 million s / c with terms of 25 years? We are stubborn to feed them...

[Ermak_Timofeich]

Something tricky - will we re-educate?
1. How?
2. Let's educate and leave?
3. And what next?
4. Not too high a price?

[Ru_Na]

Denazification a priori implies a change in the current regime in Ukraine, based on neo-Nazis.

[Tagan]

Controversial statement. The current ruling regime of Ukraine (the junta) must be removed and condemned. And there is nothing to be ashamed of.

[Ashes of Claes]

Quote: Tagan

Current ruling regime of Ukraine (junta)

why is he a "junta"? It was Putin who called on the military for a putsch and a junta.

Quote: Tagan

should be removed and condemned.

What is the suspension procedure? Under whose laws was he condemned?

[Essex62]

According to the laws of war. The winner writes laws for the vanquished. It remains to win.

[Repellent]

Quote: Ashes of Klaas

Madam Zakharova brings, as I see it, even more fog into the already vague goals of the special operation (tm)

Feel the stink

Literally, right here, give the words - what exactly did Zakharova say there? A-na-li-tag

[Essex62]

This is still a real, full-scale war with the West, only the blind do not see this. Let the wrestlers call what they started whatever they want, but they don’t have a back door. Denocafification is the complete deprivation of statehood of those who, through thoughtlessness, call themselves Ukrainians. Otherwise, this is zilch, show-off, as they call it in their circles. And they will have to go to the end, because the Freemasons will no longer let go of the noose and will shake the Maidan, already in the Russian Federation. Trust, and so weak, will not be at all. Half measures will not work here. No, tomorrow another group will sit in the Kremlin.

[Akuzenka]

In addition, we have a "type of legitimate" Yanukovych.

[maxim1987]

Quote: Troll

Of course not. Not Moscow, but the people will choose a new strong and updated, without Natsik, government.

five times already chosen so what? Each of their prezik started with peace, friendship, chewing gum and still slipped into Nazism

[Emergency]

Oh wow! And why did you have to fence the garden ?! In 20 years, to conduct a special operation again? Add the fascist reptile, change the government, and the GRNU (a group of Russian troops IN Ukraine, damn it, create)!

[sagitovich]

Everything will change, don't worry. And netsik kg well, and brains will be restored in 20 years.

[Third district]

Quote: sagitovich

Everything will change, don't worry.

You are just comforting yourself. What the authorities think there, everything is in a complete fog.

[evgen1221]

And this population with the new leadership will not be asked to join NATO?

[Reserve buildbat]

How can you change something that doesn't exist? In that territory, lawlessness and Nazism. But they say that there are no national battalions.

[Amateur]

Some kind of "dog" from Zakharova. Why, then, are the Russian guys now fighting in Ukraine, if, according to her, Zelensky will remain with his Nazis? What is the end goal of this operation?

[Sibguest]

This is a lure - so that the Nitsiki do not run away from the 404th, and then once - and the hashes with a rope came to them.

[LAWNER]

Why change? The LDNR already has its own heads of government. In Ukraine, there is a legally elected president. In American terms, "in exile" (Yanukovych) .. So you won't have to do anything.

[Alexander 3]

Will Yanukovych agree to head the government?

[Ashes of Claes]

Quote: Alexander 3

Will Yanukovych agree to head the government?

First, the president does not head the government.
Secondly, who is Yanukovych? His powers are long gone. Neither he nor the Kremlin appointed him any "president in exile". He is an ordinary pensioner, to whom no one cares. By the way, where does he get his pension?

[Ashes of Claes]

Quote: LAWNER

The LDNR already has its own heads of government.

What do they have to do with Ukraine?

[LAWNER]

Yanukovych left the country as a result of an armed coup .. The precedents of Libya, Yemen, etc. There are generally two governments on the territory of one state. This is about the legitimacy of power. There would be a chair and a table. And there will always be someone who wants to sit behind it.
A little about Ukraine. The Kharkiv Republic and the Odessa Republic also began there .. But they were burned out .. Whom in the house of trade unions. Will return.

[DymOk_v_dYmke]

Quote: LAWNER

The precedents are Libya, Yemen, etc. There are generally two governments on the territory of one state.

Yes, if there were at least 8 governments friendly to Russia in Ukraine, there would be no problems.

[Ashes of Claes]

Quote: LAWNER

Yanukovych left the country as a result of an armed coup.

So what? Does that make him automatically perpetual president? His mandate ended in 2014.

Quote: LAWNER

am still the Kharkov Republic and Odessa began.

Yes, you never know what started there. It's 2022 now, not 2014. And the attitude towards Russia, to put it mildly, has undergone some changes.

Quote: LAWNER

you can not change the power. She herself will return.

Yeah, let's sit down and wait. How? Year? Five?

[your1970]

Quote: LAWNER

But the idea was not eradicated from the people.

Remind me - where in Ukraine they slaughtered the Right Sector or blew up the warehouses of the Armed Forces of Ukraine? At least a couple of times in 8 years? Maybe somewhere in the liberated cities, the local residents of the Natsiks hanged after the entry of our troops?
The people (with the exception of the LDNR) sat there quietly and peacefully. Otherwise, they didn’t touch ...
And it’s straight, they have an “idea” there

[Sadam]

Look in telegram channels Russian Kharkiv is becoming more and more like Grozny. Do you really believe there someone will remain loyal to the Russians?

[KKND]

Understood nothing. Outright Nazis have gathered in power there and we are going to denazify Ukraine, but are we not going to change the government?
Is it to catch ordinary Nazis, who only shoots at our troops?

[Paranoid50]

Quote: KKND

Understood nothing.

It's okay, there are a lot of them. Another thing is that some will re-read it again and still comprehend the meaning, while others will immediately rush to sketch their own fabrications on this occasion - clips, hall ... I must say that the local hysterics did not disappoint this time either - the article hangs for less than an hour, and the "branch" is already covered in snot.

[flint]

Strange statement. Actually, Putin spoke about the loss of statehood of dill in the event of a military conflict. What agreements can be made with this power? They now sign anything, and in a few years, having saved up fat, they will easily refuse contracts, saying that they were forced to sign, and the signatories will also be imprisoned. Just a complete change of leadership.

[Ivan Ivanov]

What a strange approach How can you denazify Ukraine without overthrowing a government that is largely composed of Nazis?

[Ross xnumx]

Ministry of Foreign Affairs of the Russian Federation: Moscow is not going to change the power in Ukraine

But this is already interesting. To hell with it - DEMILITARIZATION.
Yes, let it (Nazi power) be changed by the Ukrainian people ... Only to show what is good and what is bad is needed as soon as possible.
And then Zakharova turned out that Zelensky and Kolomoisky accidentally passed by ...
=====
By the way, the surname Zelensky, unlike Kolomoisky, is not underlined with a wavy red line (error, inaccuracy, indefinite value) ... The world has recognized its heroes...

[Vadim237]

Moscow is not going to change power in Ukraine - it will be changed there by the troops of the LDNR and all representatives of anti-Nazi parties that have been pressed in Ukraine for all these 8 years.

[Third district]

Quote: Vadim237

Moscow is not going to change power in Ukraine - LDNR troops will change it there

This seems to you ideally, but how it will actually be, is unknown. LDNR troops can stop within their republics.

[ShM05]

Making such statements is a crime and sabotage, even if we have other plans, that part of the population that was for us and was afraid to admit it because of the Bandera people in power now they will think 100 times if this power remains, they will be avenged, politics is starting again step forward two steps back. It is necessary to achieve the Armed Forces of Ukraine and eliminate this non-state called Ukraine

[aleks700]

Ze has already said that they will deal with pro-Russian politicians. And how many of these will remain there after Zakharova's statement?

[evgen1221]

A strange and very statement. We'll demolish the military infrastructure, ok, we'll leave, ok. We will leave the same government in the hope that its population will not re-elect, but it will take and re-elect and immediately take them to the EU and NATO so that we no longer do this and everything anew. And then what to do?

[aleks700]

What is it like? Another cunning plan? Or a direct betrayal of all those who are at the front? Are they fighting for Zelensky now?

[Woodman]

Moscow is not going to change power in Ukraine. This is not part of the tasks of the special military operation it is conducting.

This statement was made by the official representative of the Russian Foreign Ministry Maria Zakharova during a briefing.

Right. This will be done by the free and denazified Ukrainian people.
It is only necessary to clarify that the Russian troops and the Russian administration will remain in place until the complete completion of denazification, i.e. for a few years or so.

[iouris]

We must realize this. A week won't be enough...
There is no need to change the power in Ukraine if there is no Ukraine.

[Moonsund]

Congratulations, after 5 years maximum, we will get the same thing, only, rigidly motivated, armed and embittered. In every provincial village, there will be a monument to the invaders of Ukraine. In every child's brain, there will be fear and hatred for the Russians. On each floor, zassan, a zhofto-blakit rag will hang out. Congratulations. West no longer make such a mistake. All the sanctions, all the hardships that have fallen on Russia and Belarus, you see, this is to practice burning tanks and equipment. They'll get better. The hydra can only be destroyed, it cannot be cut off one head. Congratulations, Ukraine did not have heroes, now there will be those who "defended, defended, won back at the cost of their lives," I can hear it directly. Nationalist martyrs. And the last ones loyal to us will be finally crushed. And the alley of angels is in vain. Well done Masha, everything cleared up. The answer is simple - in order to demilitarize and denazify, it is just necessary to change the course of Ukraine and change the government.

[Adrey]

I'll correct you a little. In 5 days...

[evgen1221]

And the population zombified by self-sufficiency and independence? They will not run to NATO with another government? Only faster. Will Europe lift sanctions? Certainly won't film. Non-bloc treaty bu? Oh, how these papers wipe themselves, we can see. And who compensates for the loss of families? But don’t they think of getting misunderstanding or rebellion of their population because of such decisions? She died and the corpse was buried, the best option with the division of territories.

[Kostadinov]

Moscow is not going to change power in Ukraine.

A question of reduced complexity - how is denazification carried out under the present government in Ukraine if the same government carried out nazification?
And without denazification there will never be any demilitarization or peace.

[Suleiman]

[/ quote] Russian Foreign Ministry: Moscow is not going to change power in Ukraine [quote]

Wow, have you already changed your mind?

[Third district]

The armed forces of the Russian Federation solve precisely these tasks. They are not going to occupy Ukraine, or destroy its state structure, or overthrow the people who rule this country.

That is, let the Nazis and drug addicts continue to rule in Ukraine, as Putin said. Then where does the denazification? How messy it all went. Unclear.

[Asad]

The clearing is being prepared before the negotiations.

[Suleiman]

Quote: evgen1221

We will leave the same government in the hope that its population will not re-elect, but it will take and re-elect ...

Of course he will be re-elected, after all, Pashinyan was also elected

[archiroll]

And who will return the grandmother?

[Alexey Sommer]

Moscow is not going to change the power in Ukraine

Delirium of a schizophrenic?...
Split personality?...
Or betrayal?
It is clear that Zakharova is just a talking head ..
But somehow it's disturbing.

[Essex62]

What is called - arrived. They laid down the lives of Russian soldiers, in fact received unemployment, a catastrophic decline in living standards, impoverishment in essence, and all this rot on the outskirts will remain and will continue to be Russophobic? Why then all this? "Carthage Must Be Destroyed". There is no such country Ukraine, it is the outskirts of Russia. Dot.

[Tagan]

Quote: Ashes of Klaas

Quote: Tagan

Current ruling regime of Ukraine (junta)

why is he a "junta"? It was Putin who called on the military for a putsch and a junta.

Quote: Tagan

should be removed and condemned.

What is the suspension procedure? Under whose laws was he condemned?

According to the provisions of the Nuremberg Tribunal. Wave more papers to the ECtHR here. Russia will judge this trash, no matter what you say in Europe, Ukraine in defense of the Nazis.

[Ashes of Claes]

Quote: Tagan

Under the provisions of the Nuremberg Tribunal

And what is he doing here? MTN was an international tribunal. "According to the provisions" - how is it?

Quote: Tagan

Russia will judge this trash

According to your own laws? Ukraine is outside the jurisdiction of Russian courts. In order to spread it, an occupation must be declared. Is this included in the plans?

Quote: Tagan

in defense of the Nazis.

I am not defending anyone, I am interested in the procedure itself.

[Essex62]

Only not occupation, but a return to the borders of the USSR. Since the bourgeois Russian Federation recognized itself as its legal successor. Or does it only concern Gorbachev's debts? Steel eggs, Kremlin boys, a guarantee of any legal legitimacy. I don't care about international laws, they are not respected in relation to us. A reason to come up with a couple of trifles. To hell with the Russian (and not so) boys, the rotten, rear-wheel drive west. We are building a steel wall from scratch, from zero.

[vs45]

I respect Zakharova, I appreciate Russia, but knowing the Ukrainian people on a family example, all this is complete nonsense ..... nothing will change there without a change of regime ..... the country with patrons was bought by the United States ..... As soon as the troops leave will return to normal ...... Again there will be NATO exercises and other heresy !!!? Torchlight processions and other such mutaten !!! All left-bank Ukraine must be subordinated to one’s interests and influence ..... Don’t touch the Westerners, let them rot in their anti-Russian frenzy, they have all already run away to work in Europe .... and let central Ukraine live as it wants .... The south must also strive to subjugate .... Otherwise, this whole operation is completely meaningless !!! The army of Ukraine will again be armed to the teeth in two years with American money and they will stand near Luhansk and Donetsk .... And no one is going to recognize these regions, like Crimea .... The United States never recognized the Soviet Baltic states !!! !! No one will lift the sanctions in the short term.... And they will also force Russia to pay a billion indemnity .. All this came, we know .... The goal of the United States is to destroy Russia as a powerful independent country, and Ukraine is just a consumable for them !!!

[Garris199]

There is no way back. An urgent mobilization of stock is needed. Two / three armies still need to be brought in to firmly cut off the supply routes of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and gouge the grouping in the Donbass.
To secure their own supply convoys, all routes from the route must be equipped with checkpoints, and the surrounding areas must be combed.

[Zaurbek]

The main thing is that the authorities know-What is it going to do in Ukraine.....!
This is the biggest mystery.

[Adrey]

Well, well ... the harsh reality is making adjustments ... [/ Quote]
good afternoon . It was clear before for those who have at least something in their heads.
See my post below.

[pytar]

Hello dear Andrey! Many began to reach, even though they are still in the minority ... Yes, and propaganda is massively working to take precedence over a healthy sense.

[Adrey]

Thanks for the answer and rating dear Boyan

[Enemy]

Not vsichki bulgarite sa against Rusiya.

[pytar]

Let me explain for those who do not understand or pretend not to understand:
Volodymyr Zelensky became President in a highly competitive election. RF recognized it. But he won universal respect with his worthy behavior from the beginning of the RVS "operation". Everyone in Ukraine now stands for him, both former hesitant and former enemies! No matter how he was treated in Russia, no one expected that the former comedian would show such courage!
Vladimir Putin rules the Russian Federation, how much?! ... well, Pts for many years ... For a month and in front of the whole world, he made statements that differed from his subsequent actions ... In Ukraine and in the world, now the GDP rating is extremely low and this is mild said ... In recent decades, in the elections for Vl. Putin had no competitors. For what reasons is debatable.
And how was the Russian Vladimir going to change the Ukrainian Vladimir?
Of course, Russia is much stronger militarily than Ukraine, but this was clearly not enough to radically change the paradigm. There is also an obvious mental factor! Ukrainians have never distinguished themselves with reverence or obedience to the authorities, for the difference from the Russians. Ukrainians have changed several presidents and parliaments in 30 years. It is impossible to return them to authoritarian models, especially if this is the result of external armed intervention.

[Repellent]

Quote: pytar

For those who don't understand or pretend not to understand...

... before, only people of Ukrainian nationality rode (I note that not all of them. The smart ones abstained).

Now citizens from the NATO "pads" have joined the galloping. Well, what can I say - training is a great power

[Adrey]

Well, at the expense of "reverence and obedience" you turned down, and strongly

[pytar]

Take it as a joke, it's true... I am aware of the real situation in both countries, each has its own characteristics.

[Adrey]

Accepted (signs to fit the text size)

[XNUMX%]

That's right. Power must be replaced by those who remain alive, who were destroyed for 8 years and parried in American laboratories.

[-Paul-]

That is, how is it not going to change?! Leave the Nazis in power?

[Ural resident]

Do not know. Perhaps it is politically correct to voice this, if in parallel there is work with the population, training of leaders, parties, movements, the power component for protection. Then the "legitimate" president signs agreements, which are then approved by the UN, and the "people" vote for the new government. But is this really so, to be honest, there is no work in the liberated territory so far.

[Knell wardenheart]

Moscow is not going to change power in Ukraine. This is not part of the tasks of the special military operation it is conducting.

There is absolutely no desire to comment on this "dirty" topic in every sense, however, I note that if we already got into all this, we should bring the matter to its logical end, solve the problem "strongly", so that in our lifetime it will no longer arise in no way. If we intend to leave the existing personalities in power - the planned "denazification" will be just in words, like "demilitarization" itself - it's just that the armed forces will be trained and trained abroad, the equipment will be stored abroad for the time being, in neighboring countries.
The existing government in Ukraine will not be able and will not want to justify everything that happened "according to our manual", because they would have to change their shoes 180 degrees - and therefore they will not do this. They will create a new myth in exchange for the poshrepashimus. It will be a myth about national humiliation, aggression from a neighboring country, coercion into unequal treaties, etc., etc. In a very short time and with the support of the West, the fruits of this myth will be even bitterer for us than what it was.

Leaving things as they are is crazy.

[Adrey]

Good afternoon. You had a good series of articles here. Not without controversy, but good. Do not want to continue in the new realities?

[Knell wardenheart]

I still do not see these "new realities") But I already have fears that the logic of events will follow the path outlined by my opponent, in which the printing of candy wrappers will paint our gray everyday life with all the colors of the psychedelic rainbow for some time.
I'm afraid that in my 7 articles I said everything I wanted) For the time being, I prefer not to get into either the mud-slinging of the neighboring country or the exciting rage of patriotic frenzy. Sometimes quietly observing the events is the best strategy!)

[Adrey]

Do not take my words as sarcasm to you, rather as to the current situation . Your opponent was really strong, so it was more interesting to read. I wish you success . respectfully
PS And yes, I'm afraid you'll both be right, unfortunately

[Sadam]

Tyuyu. Today's issue of the Big Game. There the main slogan is that they have a candy wrapper economy and we have a natural one ... 60 min. Time will show. Great game... Still full of optimism..

[Repellent]

Quote: Knell Wardenheart

Leaving things as they are is crazy.

"Analyst", damn it, did you see / hear the original message from Zakharova? No stops

Otherwise, you would have nothing to "analyze" there.

[Suleiman]

[/ quote] Moscow is not going to change power in Ukraine. This is not part of the tasks of the special military operation she is conducting. [quote]

I laughed so much! (FM)

[agond]

It is very likely that the current government in Ukraine will not be able to stay in power, at least in its former form.,

[Suleiman]

In Ukraine?))) So the power there will be strengthened with your help!
The opposite scenario is very likely.

[Adrey]

Quote: agond

It is very likely that the current government in Ukraine will not be able to stay in power, at least in its former form.,

She is heroic with this approach.

[Adrey]

Russian Foreign Ministry: Foreign Ministers of Russia and Ukraine will meet in Turkey
7 March 2022.
VO material.

Adrey (Andrey)
7 March 2022 20: 11
-2
And it looks like everything...

My comment.
Iii?

[16112014nk]

Moscow is not going to change the power in Ukraine

In Georgia, in 2008, they also stopped halfway and did not change the government. And what's good?
We must go to the end. Otherwise, the reputational damage for Russia will be irreparable.

[gorenina91]

Russian Foreign Ministry: Moscow is not going to change power in Ukraine

- Well, then they will choose new Natsiks. - Russia cannot completely withdraw from the territory of Ukraine. - And then Kolomoisky, Akhmetov and others will very quickly take everything into their own hands again - and our oligarchs will quickly establish new ties with them - and far from in favor of Russia!
- Look how well Kolomoisky and Akhmetov "financed" the creation of the Ukrainian "National Corps" - "Aidar", "Azov", "Vostok" and so on. - These Nazis are doing all their atrocities - in Mariupol, in Kharkov, in Kyiv, and so on ...
- So - as soon as the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation leave the territory of Ukraine - like Kolomoisky, Akhmetov and others - they will quickly form a "new evil spirits" in Ukraine and appoint a "new Zelensky".

[tank64rus]

And we will lose Novorossia forever and all Russians who believed in the Russian idea.

[parusnik]

And we will lose Novorossia forever and all Russians who believed in the Russian idea.

..Everything you write about was lost once and for all in 2014

[Tagan]

Quote: Ashes of Klaas

Quote: Essex62

According to the laws of war.

What war? There is no war, you know?)

Quote: Essex62

It remains to win.

What do you mean by "victory"?
Madame Zakharova brings, as I see it, even more fog into the already vague goals of the special operation (tm).

Maybe you are not aware, but the Investigative Committee of the Russian Federation has opened a huge number of criminal cases against both many representatives of the top leadership of Ukraine and individual scumbags for crimes committed both against residents of Donbass and Russian citizens. Russia has all the legal grounds.

[Ashes of Claes]

Quote: Tagan

Maybe you are not aware, but a huge number of criminal cases have been opened in the RF IC

And what does the "laws of war" have to do with it? Well, whoever the UK reaches out to, maybe they will take him to Russia and judge. Well, what's up here

Quote: Tagan

According to the provisions of the Nuremberg Tribunal.

?

[ultra]

One caveat, these tasks are IMPOSSIBLE to solve without changing the government on the territory of the former Ukrainian SSR.

[rocket757]

Russian Foreign Ministry: Moscow is not going to change power in Ukraine

. If we write two, three in the mind ... that's okay, then something might work out.
But, if, back and forth, without obligation .... then a simple question, but what for?

[sen]

She noted that Russian troops are in Ukraine to protect the inhabitants of the DPR and LPR, to demilitarize and denazify Ukrainian territory. In addition, the special operation should eliminate the military threat from Ukraine, which is represented by the NATO countries actively developing this country. Part of this "development" is the active pumping of the Kiev regime with weapons.

Respite in time. As soon as our people leave, they will again take up their old ways, they will also turn to the court for compensation - half of our assets abroad are frozen, and the West will help them. But the very existence of the LDNR in an expanded version with our military bases can serve as a kind of guarantee against Ukraine's entry into NATO.

[storm]

Leaving the former nationalist leadership in Ukraine in power with its own hands, Russia will grow at its side "a new analogue of fascist Germany."
So it was already after the First World War, when the defeated demilitarized Germany, having lost part of its territories, longed for revenge!!!
(Does this remind you of today's Ukraine without Crimea, Donbass, and possibly some Black Sea regions?)
Under the slogan of the national revival of Germany, neo-Nazis led by Hitler came to power, and the West helped him financially and politically create a powerful military empire.
Then there was a war, devastation and 27 million dead citizens of the USSR !!!

After the Second World War, Germany was under the external control of the victorious countries for five years, which during this time carried out a cardinal personnel purge, all former Nazis received a lifelong "black mark" without the right to hold public office.
From the anti-fascist fighters and their sympathizers, the new governing bodies of Germany were prepared and formed.
New teachers taught in schools using new textbooks!!!

If you don’t do the same in Ukraine, and don’t carry out DENACIATION there with a complete change of power under the control of Russia, completely take control of the media, don’t change the nationalist teachers in schools, colleges and universities who have raised millions of nationalists since 91,
then after the end of DEMILLITARIZATION, in a couple of years we will get in the neighborhood the embittered state of Ukraine, devastated and plundered by its own oligarchs, led by Nazis thirsting for revenge!!!
The object of their revenge will be Russia, and the West will help them in every possible way to strengthen and arm themselves!!!

Russia must bring what it started to its logical end, otherwise all the sacrifices made were in vain and it will be necessary to prepare for a new, more terrible war!!!