Special operation in completely blockaded Mariupol temporarily postponed

The forces of the DPR army and the Russian Armed Forces managed to completely block Mariupol, but the entry of units into the city has been postponed for the time being. The command hopes that the situation can be resolved through negotiations. This was stated by the representative of the People's Militia of the DPR Eduard Basurin.

The grouping of troops of the Donetsk People's Republic expanded the offensive zone, advancing 58 kilometers from the beginning of the operation. The settlements of Kalinovka, Lebedinskoye, Pionerskoye, Karl Marx, Nikolaevka and Osipenko came under the control of the DPR. This is confirmed by the Russian Ministry of Defense.

The fighting for Volnovakha continues, the situation there is in favor of the DPR, the city will soon completely come under the control of the troops of the republic. Mariupol is blocked, the troops are advancing further in order to finally dislodge the Armed Forces of Ukraine and stop shelling cities and towns of the DPR and LPR.

According to Basurin, everything is going according to plan until a decision is made not to enter Mariupol, but to try to resolve the issue through negotiations. The command offers those who have settled in the city to surrender, having folded weapon or get out of the city so that the civilian population does not suffer. But with a high probability this will not happen, no one took advantage of the open humanitarian corridors, the nationalists continue to hold the population, threatening reprisals for trying to leave the city. However, there is still hope that some part of the population will still be able to get out.

Currently, Mariupol is on the verge of a humanitarian catastrophe, where food is running out and electricity is being cut off. As Basurin stressed, in case of refusal to lay down their arms, a special operation will begin already in the city, no one has canceled it. In a couple of days, everything will become completely clear, he added.

Experts believe that much in this regard will depend on today's negotiations between the Ukrainian and Russian sides. They must pass, as reported, on the Polish-Belarusian border.

Comments

[Dilettante grandfather]

I approve, although my vote means nothing. As long as there is a chance to save the civilian population, it must be used.

[Machito]

Father Varlaam and Grishka Otrepiev will meet at the Polish border.

[Himalayan]

[quote = amateur grandfather]
Dilettante grandfather (Andrey)
Today, 10: 54
I approve, although my vote means nothing. As long as there is a chance to save the civilian population, they must be used. [/ Quote] You can get bogged down there. Blocked. Okay . There are more important directions. And most importantly, save the lives of soldiers.
The population and the Armed Forces of Ukraine are not very eager to meet Russia, seeing firsthand that no one punished the Nazis, even for the atrocities that have been committed since 2014. Distrust.
[quote = rocket757]
[quote = Thrifty] Thrifty
Today, 11: 26
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Nonsense! With whom to negotiate with the nationalists? They need to be massacred without pity! They will regroup, they will still lay mines and other "surprises", and there will be much more victims. We'll just waste time ... [/ quote]
[quote = rocket757]
rocket757 (Victor)
Today, 11: 20
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Unfortunately, they do not limit themselves to taking everything they want!
Now they will take the lives of civilians ... they have long been NON-HUMANS!!! many Ukrainians know this, and whoever did not want to know this will also come to him, through such a cruel, bloody lesson!
Boomerang always comes back!!! Now he has returned to those who, if he didn’t launch it, then didn’t mind it !!
My hut is on the edge ... it won’t work either, for EVERYONE, practically. [/ Quote] That's for sure !

[Dilettante grandfather]

We are not Nazis. Do not forget that the city is a civilian population. They may not be too happy to see us, but they are not to blame for anything. After all, we are not fighting a war of annihilation.

[Thrifty]

Nonsense! With whom to negotiate with the nationalists? You need to shoot them en masse without pity! They will regroup, they will still lay mines and other "surprises", and there will be much more victims. We're just wasting time...

[Elephant]

Need military cunning when taking the city

[Baron pardus]

It is necessary to protect not the lives of pigs, but the lives of RUSSIAN SOLDIERS.

[Lech from Android.]

Naturally ... for this it is necessary to create a decisive superiority in forces for the attacking side, conduct high-quality reconnaissance, bring everything necessary for the offensive ... deprive the enemy of reserves in manpower and ammunition, and much more ... which we are not told about.
So let's be patient and wait.

[Baron pardus]

It seems to me, and I saw it live, that since our troops acted in Iraq and Afghanistan, it was more correct. When there was a similar situation, we simply warned that if the terrorists did not release the locals, then we would simply destroy everyone and take the terrorists prisoner, no more, we would identify them and then go after their families. Most of the time it worked because we knew we were NOT bluffing. By the way, both in Iraq and in Banderlogia, you will NEVER know who is really peaceful, and who sympathized with terrorists or Ukronazis, helped them by organizing fundraising for them, and who will hide them, and who then will shoot you in the back . You will NEVER know. For us, the life of one American soldier is more precious than the life of thousands of all sorts of strangers. So we didn't mess around. By the way, the famous inscriptions on our cars and checkpoints "if you get closer than 100m to us you will be killed" appeared for a reason. After not one or even one dozen of our killed and maimed guys. So take into account our experience in Afghanistan and Iraq, take into account your own experience in Chechnya and Afghanistan, and take into account your own experience of fighting Bandera gangs when such a ragul swears allegiance to the USSR and the CPSU in the morning and rapes and slowly, with an arrangement, tortures to death a Russian girl who came to a scruffy farm to treat Ragul's offspring. REMEMBER, and prepare for history to repeat itself. Therefore, do not stand on ceremony. There are no innocents there. Those "civilians" who were against the Banderonats, who were disgusted with the marches of the veterans of the "Galitchyna" left a long time ago, whether it be for Poland, Russia, Canada or the USA. There are either lovers of "sit out and wait", "my hut from the edge", and sympathizers of the Banderoscots. Collecting money for equipment and medicines for the national battalions. Working in factories and arming Banderonazis, treating them, feeding them. And of course, "they are children", "I want lace panties in the EU", exactly those who prepared Molotov cocktails with which they killed Russians in Odessa. But you continue to think that they are brotherly people and continue to take care of their safety. And they, at the first opportunity, will put a knife in your back. Checked (See 1944-1950 in the Ukrainian SSR). So there is no peacekeeper there. Those who sympathize with Russia, too - they left a long time ago. There were either ukronatsiks left, or those who sympathize with them or those who like to sit out.

[alexey sidykin]

Quote: Baron Pardus

By the way, both in Iraq and in Banderlogia, you will NEVER know who is really peaceful, and who sympathized with terrorists or Ukronazis, helped them by organizing fundraising for them

Well, now it is much easier to do this, because the Internet is such a garbage dump where nothing disappears without a trace.

[your1970]

Quote: Baron Pardus

It seems to me, and I saw it live, that since our troops acted in Iraq and Afghanistan, it was more correct. When there was a similar situation, we simply warned that if the terrorists did not release the locals, then we would simply destroy everyone and take the terrorists prisoner, no more, we would identify them and then go after their families.

The problem is - for you - that with this approach you were FORCED leave. A little earlier or a little later ...
Мы NOT we will follow your path

[Baron pardus]

You see, YOU proceed from the concept that the lives of strangers, who in any case are involved in the crimes of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and the National Battalions, as well as the population of Germany and Japan, were recognized as SHARED responsible for the crimes of their rulers, so you think that these lives mean something. We believe that no matter how much they mean, the life of ONE American soldier is more valuable than all of them put together. I repeat once again, we specifically tried not to offend anyone - why do we need a howl and problems? But if someone was in the wrong place at the wrong time - sorry, but nothing personal - better you (go to the next world) than me. When you finally realize that there is NOTHING more valuable than the lives of YOUR soldiers and YOUR fellow citizens.
And as for the "peace" ... I wonder how many grandmas collected them to help equip the National Battalions? How many of them joyfully jumped at the parades of their neo-Nazis and parades of veterans of the Galicia (SS Troops). and how many just went and looked? How? How many of them "girls-want-lace-panties-and-to-the-EU" made Molotov cocktails for others to throw at your guys. Just like the same bottles burned Russians in Odessa. I will tell you that when our diplomats were brutally killed in Benghazi (killing diplomats is the last thing, even the Nazis did not do this). Then our guys, from special forces to marines and up to simple 11-boombooms, were ready to cut out Benghazi to the last man, not really understanding who is who. Because they killed OUR DIPLOMATS. And when they killed or maimed one of ours in Afghanistan or Iraq ... let's just say, it did NOT go unpunished. I can’t write the details, but I’ll say this ... It’s not just that our marines “became famous” all over the world when they took a picture against the backdrop of a pile of corpses with the banner of “electricians”, and then for a long time tried to explain what it means “Scout Sniper” and not what something else ... And it’s not just that many of ours, on armored vehicles, humvees, and even helmets and personal uniforms, had runes painted on them, or, like our commander, had the letters GD, in such a special font. He told everyone that this was due to the fact that he was from the city of GreenDale. Everyone pretended to believe.
Use your imagination to imagine how we responded, at the slightest opportunity, when our guys were killed or maimed.

[your1970]

Quote: Baron Pardus

When you finally realize that there is NOTHING more valuable than the lives of YOUR soldiers and YOUR fellow citizens.

-banality - but it is precisely because of this that the United States does not like ....
If you follow the logic you and your fellow citizens - then we had to carry out a special operation not in Ukraine, but to hit Washington (and everything else) - with the maximum possible damage, without warning. So that they could not recover and answer ...
with your approach, you ruined a bunch of countries - yes, there was no democracy there, but what is there now is worse than any dictator.
Nothing better after you

Quote: Baron Pardus

it’s not just that many of ours, on armored vehicles, humvees, and even helmets and personal uniforms, had runes painted on them, or, like our commander, had the letters GD, such a special font. He told everyone that this was due to the fact that he was from the city of GreenDale. Everyone pretended to believe.

- this is simply because the war never touched, by and large, the territory of the United States. And I know for sure that if suddenly someday it happens to you (non-nuclear, no, ordinary!) - US citizens will cut each other with rapture

[Baron pardus]

Hit on Washington - "what are we for?" :-) And if it's serious, then striking a country that supplies your enemy, WITHOUT warning, is not comme il faut at all. And if such an adversary has nuclear weapons and other weapons of mass destruction (the United States did NOT destroy its chemical weapons), then this is fraught.
It didn't get any better after us - I don't agree. Look at Japan, South Korea. The standard of living after the war in those European countries where the United States and England came (Italy, Austria, Germany, etc., etc.) became MUCH higher than where the USSR came.
As for all the Middle East and Latin America... Who told you that the US is going there to make them better?
We go there to make it better for US, not for them. Rather, it is better to do better for the clique whose paid representatives are in power at the moment. Bush - destroyed Al Qaeda and the Taliban. Obama fed them. Trump started destroying them again...
In general, the United States creates chaos and dangerous regions near countries that are enemies for the United States, but which are dumb to attack openly. In short, they do tricks. From the series "The Englishwoman will crap". Do you think that the anti-communist uprisings in Hungary and the Czech Republic were "spontaneous"? They organized themselves, armed themselves, all on their own ... Do you think the coup in Ukraine in 2014 was "spontaneous"? They armed themselves, they themselves created camps for militants, where everyone spontaneously prepared, then everyone spontaneously, without any help, gathered in Kyiv, jumped on the Maidan, where someone fed and clothed them, and they were NOT afraid of losing their jobs. Do you think it's all on your own? Of course no. But such "operations" are not a reason for war.
The war, except for the Civil War, did not particularly concern us. That's why we wrestle. They simply did not feel in their own skin what 200 Junkers over the city meant (or, even more so, 500 B-17s over the city).
As for your last thesis, I will say "More like". We will cut and wet each other with rapture. Let's remember everything for each other.
The country, by and large, is split not only along racial lines, not only religiously, but also politically. Both sides are radicalizing to levels that never existed in the US. FAMILIES fall apart because of political contradictions. Friends become enemies, and BOTH sides see their opponents as subhuman. Only the side to which I belong, in my assertion that liberals are subhuman, traitors and a subversive element, are right :-).
During the 90s and beyond, the country lost much of the "we are all fellow citizens, we are all Americans" feeling that society had before. And the further the more. So yes, when it blows up here (within 20 years I think), it will blow up so that your 90s will seem like a kindergarten. The truth will last all 3 months, then the generals will understand that the civil administration cannot and does not want to do anything, they will restore order, and take power into their own hands. ALL democracies and republics end their lives as dictatorships or monarchies - law and order. So 8/20.

[rocket757]

with a high probability this will not happen, no one took advantage of the open humanitarian corridors, the nationalists continue to hold the population, threatening reprisals for attempts to leave the city.

. The Nazis are the occupiers ... they behave accordingly in relation to the citizens of the country they have captured!
Such only in the ground, they ceased to be human ...

[Krasnodar]

Hamasniki. What to take from them.

[rocket757]

Unfortunately, they do not limit themselves to taking everything they want!
Now they will take the lives of civilians ... they have long been NON-HUMANS!!! many Ukrainians know this, and whoever did not want to know this will also come to him, through such a cruel, bloody lesson!
Boomerang always comes back!!! Now he has returned to those who, if he didn’t launch it, then didn’t mind it !!
My hut is on the edge ... it will not work either, for EVERYONE, practically.

[Krasnodar]

Quote: rocket757

My hut is on the edge ... it will not work either, for EVERYONE, practically.

Understanding is coming.

[Flooding]

I hope that most of the civilian population will be able to leave the besieged city along the provided humanitarian corridor.

[Titus_2]

This is when one and the other opposing side provides, so far, alas, only from our side. As for me, all sorts of units have already discredited themselves, and from their actions it is clear who the occupiers are.

[rocket757]

The question is that many do not believe in this and they have reason to believe so ...
Recall the events in Syria, all the "barmaley" do just that.

[Flooding]

Quote: rocket757

The question is that many do not believe in this and they have reason to believe so.

in conditions of limited access to reliable information and an abundance of disinformation, it is difficult to make a decision when it comes to relatives and friends

[rocket757]

Unfortunately, many of us will have to worry about our loved ones living under the occupation power of the Nazis!
We have to wait, it won't be long.

[Baron pardus]

And what prevented your loved ones from selling apartments and moving to Russia? Why, due to the fact that someone decided to sit out and wait out, now RUSSIAN soldiers have to risk their lives and injuries? If your relatives and other "peaceful" people didn't like Pig, Zelenka, Aidar and Dung, why didn't they leave? So it wasn’t so bad for them, and they weren’t in such an honest opposition to the regimes of Poros, Zelenka and Kalo-moysky and others like them. Now, if you don’t like something, people either try to fight or emigrate. The vast majority of the population of Banderlogia did neither. So they were all right.

[rocket757]

Everything is relative.
I also don’t like a lot of things that are happening in my homeland, but the majority made their choice in favor of this government ... now it remains to wait for a new attempt to elect another government.
Running around the squares with a poster, remaining in a clear minority, the prospect is so-so and cannot change the situation.

[Baron pardus]

You can not only run around the squares. You can simply sell the apartment and run away. When it became clear that the USSR would fall and we were all on the eve of a grand nix, we did just that - we fled. Accurately in September 1991. You can NOT work at the plant serving the Armed Forces of Ukraine and the national battalions. Lots of things can be done. Quite legal. If the person didn’t run away from natsikoragulestan, then everything more or less suited him there. I repeat. And Nazi Germany and Japan announced that the WHOLE POPULATION is responsible for the crimes of the regime. And EVERYONE is responsible, from the farmer who fed the Wehrmacht and the SS, and to the workers who regularly supplied them with weapons, and to the doctors who treated them. I see no difference between Nazi Germany and Nazi Ragulestan. The only difference is the scale of the genocide. And everything else is the same. Remind who fed Hitler's Germany and sent it to the USSR? The same ones who fed the Nazi Ragulestan and set him on Russia.

[rocket757]

The question is ... how do you differ from the same ones ... when you are going to gather everyone in advance, indiscriminately, into one heap and declare them guilty?
Extremism manifests itself in different forms, but the essence is the same ... everyone is to blame, because they do not agree with me.

[Baron pardus]

We have TWO precedents in front of us. When ALL Germans and ALL Japanese were declared SHARING the guilt for the crimes of their countries. ALL, you know? What I propose is HISTORICAL precedent. Yes, ALL residents of Ukraine, except for the DPR / LPR, are directly or indirectly guilty of the crimes of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, the National Battalions and the government, or (as those who armed, equipped, fed and treated the Armed Forces of Ukraine and the National Battalions) are PARTICIPANTS. Therefore, ALL raguli must PAY AND REPENT. Compensation to residents of the DNR/LNR. Compensation to Russia for spent ammunition (as the British did, EMNIP in Egypt. First, 3/4 of the port was demolished with ship guns, and when the Egyptians asked for a ceasefire, the British put them on money for spent ammunition. And of course, compensation to the families of the dead Russian Soldiers. It seems to me that 5 million dollars for each killed and maimed and 3 million dollars for each wounded. Put them on such money so that their great-grandchildren would sell their last underpants to pay everything. By the way, the Germans and the Japanese were forced to PAY, and not only the Jews. assign such an indemnity to Ukraine could afford not to starve and live in the open air, no more.
War, any war, even if it is called the "Operation to Force Denazification" should bring income to the victorious state, territory, population, natural resources, loot and GOLD (especially gold), The Great Bismarck spoke about this. The war should not only pay for itself, but also bring profit to the STATE and fill its treasury. Put the Ukrainians on such indemnities that they allow themselves to eat meat once a month. Let them live for 80 years as people lived in the DPR / LPR. So that it HAS arrived. And just as German civilians were taken to concentration camps and forced to clean up the corpses, so EVERY Ukrainian was forced to look at the faces of EVERYONE they killed. Including children. By the way, American soldiers, having captured the concentration camps, immediately let all the guards go to waste - without trial or investigation. And NO ONE said a word to the Americans.

[rocket757]

Everyone takes a position that is closer to him ... as it should be.
You must take responsibility for your own mistakes.

[Piramidon]

Quote: Flood

I hope that most of the civilian population will be able to leave the besieged city along the provided humanitarian corridor.

In Volnovakha, the population tried to leave under white flags and the Nazis opened fire on them. The most frostbitten Bandera people have gathered in Mariupol, who, having a head in the blood of the Donetsk people, have nothing to lose, they know that they will not be spared. They won't let the civilians get out. Who will cover up?

[Revolver]

Quote: Flood

I hope that most of the civilian population will be able to leave the besieged city along the provided humanitarian corridor.

Yes, they would have left a long time ago, but who will let them out of there? For the Nazis, a human shield is the last hope.

[Krasnodar]

Many are afraid of kusha to leave their houses or leave their houses. I have two such examples, I am in touch with them. Unfortunately, at the moment I am practically the only Russian with whom they communicate, so all the negativity is taken out on me. )

[olimpiada15]

Quote: Flood

I hope that most of the civilian population will be able to leave the besieged city along the provided humanitarian corridor.

Now I read in the Reporter that the United States is waiting for a terrible humanitarian catastrophe in Ukraine. According to their strategy and instructions, a situation has been created when the Armed Forces of Ukraine are hiding guns among residential areas. The plan of the amers is that the city will be destroyed, civilians and soldiers from both sides will die. Today, the Russian army is at war with America, but how to bring this to the understanding of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and civilians that they give their lives for the mutual destruction of Russians by Russians?

[Shahno]

In general, I agree ... I just don’t think that this is an insidious, calculated plan of the states, they just didn’t interfere with this process, sometimes they advised.
For me, it was a long time ago to receive a request from the Donbass and join it. And that's it, and there would be no such problems.
100 percent sure in this situation, the West would have introduced a maximum of a minimum of formal sanctions ... Russia saves face, the inhabitants of Donbass do not die, Ukraine's entry into NATO? - Yes, no one would accept it in this state because of the clause on "collective security".

[olimpiada15]

Firstly, I just read the information posted here on VO between the news. Secondly, everyone knows that the United States does not take into account the interests of any country in the world, however, as well as its citizens, and even managed to shut up the mouth of the current President Trump. I think that meanness has no bottom.

[Alex Nevs]

What for? And KOLYMA? True, I'm exaggerating a little (about the Kolyma), but somewhere like that.

[riwas]

Currently, Mariupol is on the verge of a humanitarian catastrophe, where food is running out and electricity is being cut off. As Basurin emphasized, in case of refusal to lay down their arms, a special operation will begin already in the city, no one has canceled it.

To postpone the operation, prepare - this is to avoid unnecessary losses. We need to pull up our engineering assault units, specially trained for storming cities and buildings.

[Saladine]

? What kind of type / type of troops is this unusual?

[Paranoid50]

Quote: Saladine

is the type / type of troops so unusual?

Nothing unusual - in other words, storm-pioneers. Such units, in particular, are present with the structures of the Airborne Forces and the MP. We had them created in 1943. SA was widely used at the final stage of the Second World War, especially during the storming of cities.

[Saladine]

This is called DShB - air assault battalion. And not some engineering assault assault pioneers ...

[Paranoid50]

Quote: Saladine

engineering assault

Exactly. Read, read, read... "Love a book - a source of knowledge."

[Saladine]

I tell you about the structural units of the Russian army, and you tell me about history. Return to modern reality.

[Paranoid50]

Quote: Saladine

about the structural units of the Russian army,

Thats exactly what I mean. I didn’t have time to add to the last post, so now, in order to avoid further unnecessary discussions: your obedient servant served in just such a unit. However, maybe I'm just a fake...

[Baron pardus]

The best weapons for clearing cities are volume explosion ammunition, white phosphorus, and napalm. Ours cleared Fallujah with white phosphorus and volumetric explosion ammunition. Worked great.

[Nadir]

are you serious?. assault pioneers?. what do you eat or smoke?. what pioneers are attack aircraft.

[Soldatov V.]

Read the history of the Red Army and WWII. Everything is from there. It was especially pronounced in Königsberg and Berlin.

[Lara Croft]

Quote: Saladine

? What kind of type / type of troops is this unusual?

We have a whole brigade in Murom (one of two Ibr.) ...

[Paul Neuman]

everything is correct! Before making a barbecue, the meat must be marinated.

[Or me]

Experts believe that much in this regard depend on today's negotiations between the Ukrainian and Russian sides. They must pass, as reported, on the Polish-Belarusian border.

Channel 1 of Russian television, the program "Vremya Pokazhet" gave information that the Ukronazis do not get in touch. Perhaps due to the destruction of our high-precision PSU in the tower of their TV. Although I think that there should be a backup connection.

[sabakina]

Loudspeakers they bzhote handed over for scrap?

[Kesha1980]

A modern large city without the delivery of grubs - life is only one week. There are no "fortified reserves" now.
Now the requisitioning of grub will begin there.

[Ross xnumx]

Quote: Kesha1980

A modern large city without the delivery of grubs - life is only one week.

And without water, electricity and gas?

[sabakina]

There is a river or river, the apartment has wooden furniture.

[Ross xnumx]

Quote: sabakina

There is a river or river, the apartment has wooden furniture.

And then there are amenities in the yard .... and snipers on the roofs ...

[Kesha1980]

Fiberboard and chipboard furniture burns extremely badly. There are few trees in it.

[sharp-lad]

I don’t know about fiberboard, but chipboard doesn’t burn so badly (right now I’m heating it, burning old furniture, the Soviet one burns better, but it’s better not to burn it in stoves, it smokes, however), and OSB is just gorgeous.

[Kesha1980]

And without water, electricity and gas?

But this is no longer possible - these are war crimes.

[Ross xnumx]

Quote: Kesha1980

But this is no longer possible - these are war crimes.

The murder of a Bandera man, who deploys artillery systems, equipment, and himself hides behind the close proximity of uninvolved civilians, ( ) - a measure of social protection ...

The definition of the term war crime is given in Part 2 of Article 8 of the Rome Statute (Charter) of the International Criminal Court, according to which War crimes include:

a) serious violations of the Geneva Conventions of 12 August 1949, namely any of the following acts against persons or property protected under the provisions of the relevant Geneva Convention:
1) intentional killing;
2) torture or inhuman treatment, including biological experiments;
3) deliberate infliction of severe suffering or serious bodily harm or damage to health;
4) illegal, senseless and large-scale destruction and appropriation of property not caused by military necessity;
5) coercion of a prisoner of war or other protected person to serve in the armed forces of an enemy power;
6) the intentional deprivation of a prisoner of war or other protected person of the right to a fair and normal trial;
7) illegal deportation or transfer or illegal imprisonment;
8) hostage taking;

Completely here: https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_crime

[Kesha1980]

A war crime is a violation of an international humanitarian law (a kind of rules of war).
So it's highly debatable. In my opinion, the water blockade of Crimea is a war crime.
By the way

3) intentional infliction of severe suffering

[Ross xnumx]

For me, keeping Ukronazis alive is debatable...

[Kesha1980]

A few carcasses for the investigation, courts are needed. But at least.

[Ross xnumx]

Quote: Kesha1980

A few carcasses for the investigation, courts are needed. But at least.

Of course ... The main ideological leaders ...

[Kesha1980]

Yes, these will most likely run away. Unfortunately. Then I'll have to use ice axes ...

[Vladimir61]

Quote: ROSS 42

For me, keeping Ukronazis alive is debatable...

Everything is correct. Because we are talking about the prospects for the survival of our state and our children! Those who today are trying to block our equipment are no longer "ours". They accepted the nationalist government and its ideology, were silent when they were eight years old, killed people in the Donbass, went to the volunteer battalions and served on contracts in the Armed Forces of Ukraine, earning on the blood of Donbass - these are enemies and they need to be treated like enemies and their accomplices.

[ancestors from Don]

Marik is securely blockaded, you don’t have to hurry with the assault, this is no longer an army, but a prisoner of war camp, as it was in Stalingrad, let’s wait, the main thing is to save the lives of the soldiers.

[Vista401]

And at this time, Donetsk is covered with artillery, they counterattack under the neck. The direction to Slavyansk is generally in silence. During this time, the defense has already been built there.

[ancestors from Don]

Crawl less on the websites of the correspondent and the censor.

[Vista401]

I read info in Russian.

[rotmistr60]

much in this regard will depend on today's negotiations between the Ukrainian and Russian sides

Big doubts, because. in Mariupol, finished Nazis who perfectly understand what awaits them. For them, the civilian population is not only a shield from artillery and aviation strikes, but also hostages that give them time to live and bargain a little more.

[Crete 25]

Does anyone else believe that negotiations will take place?

[Bradley]

The forces of the DPR army and the Russian Armed Forces managed to completely block Mariupol, but the entry of units into the city has been postponed for the time being. The command hopes that the situation can be resolved through negotiations. This was stated by the representative of the People's Militia of the DPR Eduard Basurin.

Everything is much simpler: they simply pull up forces to storm the city.
Mariupol will cost us dearly...

[vitvit123]

He doesn’t know what it will cost you, but it will cost your Natsiks their lives!

[Bradley]

He doesn’t know what it will cost you, but it will cost your Natsiks their lives!

How is it ours? I am Russian, from St. Petersburg.
Or are you one of those who have "no losses"?
Well, everything is clear with you, we have no losses, we take cities by the power of thought, etc.
It is strange to read such statements. How old are you? This is a rhetorical question, and it is so clear that 14 years.
By the power of thought, the soldiers of the city take from him, mdaa ... They would be ashamed to write such a thing, by God.

[vitvit123]

Meli Emelya, your week!!

[Bradley]

Meli Emelya, your week!!

Couldn't resist, he stumbled. Sorry.))
By the way, what can you say about Ukrainians as a nationality?

[vitvit123]

Nationality in three Slavic territories, Russia,
Belarus, Ukraine - one .. you can call it whatever you like .. I'm talking about the main gene pool, so to speak ...
Impurities, of course, there are enough of all kinds, tk. We don't live in isolation...
If it suits you to have a dialogue with me, then I must tell you that I consider you an enemy of Russia in a real conflict .. it doesn’t matter where you live .. and if you are frank, then I will have much more respect for you .. I don’t care where do you live and what nationality do you consider yourself ... from your comments, I see that you are aggravating the situation in every possible way, but you are trying to veil this one .. it would be better if you talk without a "veil" .. and please, without Ukrainian nonsense, in the sense of the strongest army in Europe , lard to Ukraine, etc.

[odometer]

Corridors... This is humane... And where should people go, in an open field?

[Sauron80]

it’s probably better for a living person in an open field than a thin layer smeared around the apartment

[Vladimir61]

All this, of course, causes positive emotions. That's just how the most frantic parts of the ukroreich stood near Donetsk, Gorlovka, Debaltseve, Stakhanov, Pervomaisk and Kirovsk, and they are! As they fired, they fired, as peaceful people died every day, they still die! I don't understand this strategy.

[Sauron80]

there they will take them warm, so that they stand in a heap, and not collect them all over the territory of Ukraine

[Ural resident]

Quote: Sauron80

there they will take them warm, so that they stand in a heap, and not collect them all over the territory of Ukraine

What happened next? We have no higher measure, and no one will. crimes have not been proven. No one will act outside the law. Most will simply be released, and then they will create new brigades.

[aleks700]

Negotiations with whom? Azov, Aidar, right sector?

[Ural resident]

So the most frostbitten Nazis gathered there, They even say the APU is gone. Azov and from other countries are their "brothers" Finished, without the right to rehabilitation. How to deal with them if they surrender, under our humane legislation? Guys - you go, like home and don't be naughty anymore? And commanders for a couple of years?
I do not know...

[svoit]

Quote: Resident of the Urals

We have no higher measure, and no one will. crimes have not been proven.

He committed his crimes on the territory of the DPR and LPR, they have the death penalty, but you are right, take prisoners only when absolutely necessary.

[w70]

Our Putin is very careful

[Santa Fe]

Knight of the Long Table

[Garris199]

And this length is very alarming to me.

[US2SOF]

Make concessions to the Nazis, as soon as the civilians are released, according to their own principles (promise everything, and then hang the separatists!) to deal with them.

[Retvizan1974]

Information has already passed that the Nazis are grabbing "peaceful" people and towing them to the AzovStal workshops, simultaneously mining all the approaches to the plant! Bandera, as usual, hide behind civilians. How should the troops of the Russian Federation act in this case? What kind of negotiations with stubborn Nazis? They have already buried themselves, now the task is to take with them as many people as possible...

[Lara Croft]

Quote: Retvizan1974

Bandera, as usual, hide behind civilians. How should the troops of the Russian Federation act in this case?

Weird question. Civilians twice elected two nationalist presidents, respectively, "peace" at least "khataskraynik" or "then let them leave Donbass for their home in Russia" ... respectively, the military has a choice or death of Bendera even with a stoned "peace", or victims among the citizens of the Russian Federation ....

[Shahno]

Well, you understand that this "stoned layman" is mostly not Nazis, but completely ordinary inhabitants ...
Yes, they chose, but you don’t seem to know how the elections are held, they promise one thing, another comes out.

[Lara Croft]

Quote: Shahno

Well, you understand that this "stoned layman" is mostly not Nazis, but completely ordinary inhabitants ...

When choosing between citizens of the Russian Federation and ordinary inhabitants of Ukraine, I will always choose citizens of the Russian Federation ... I swore an oath to them, and not to a stupid Ukrainian man in the street ...

[tank64rus]

Zelensky was chosen because he promised to end the war, fulfill the Minsk agreements and does not quarrel with Russia. 73% voted for him. But promising does not mean getting married. Knocked up Ukraine and Poland.

[Shahno]

Yes, I agree. It is Zelensky's fault that he did not contribute to the resolution of problems in the Donbass. Well, these are all citizens of Ukraine.

[silver_roman]

It seemed to me that the most evil spirits are concentrated there and no one will compromise with it.

[Lara Croft]

The forces of the DPR army and the Russian Armed Forces managed to completely block Mariupol, but the entry of units into the city has been postponed for the time being. The command hopes that the situation can be resolved through negotiations.

As it is reminiscent of the 1995 PCC.