"United Russia" appealed to the government with a request to provide military assistance to the republics of Donbass

Following the statement of Deputy Prime Minister of the Federation Council Andrei Turchak, a statement was made by the United Russia party. As the head of the faction in the State Duma, Vladimir Vasilyev, stated, the party turned to the Russian government with a request to provide military assistance to the republics of Donbass.

The United Russia party published a statement in which it asks the Russian leadership to provide assistance to the self-proclaimed republics of the DPR and LPR by supplying them with Russian-made weapons. According to the head of the faction Vasiliev, aggression is being prepared in Ukraine against the population of the republics, including Russian citizens living in the Donbass. According to him, the situation in Ukraine resembles a return to Nazism and Bandera. Vasiliev stressed that Russia cannot leave people to their own devices.

We appeal to the leadership of our country to provide assistance to the Lugansk and Donetsk republics in the form of supplies of military products necessary to deter aggression, as well as to take all necessary measures to ensure the safety of their citizens

- the party said in a statement.

Vasilyev clarified that this is not a momentary decision, consultations on the supply of weapons to the Donbass were conducted both within the United Russia faction itself and in the State Duma Council.

Earlier, Andrey Turchak, the head of the General Council of the United Russia party, made a similar proposal. He stressed that the United States and Western countries are arming Ukraine, supplying various weapons under the guise of "defensive", which eventually appear in the Donbass and are used against the Donbass republics, including civilians.

The Federation Council, commenting on Turchak's statement, said that the majority of Russians would support the call for supplies weapons republics of Donbass.

Comments

[Vasily Chernyshev]

Good treatment ... But it could have been much earlier

[210ox]

By no means "ours brewed porridge there." If there hadn't been a coup d'état in Kiev, there would have been no "porridge in the Donbass." It is clear that the authorities in Ukraine were worthless, but the fact that the last eight years in general defies reason

[Barge_watchman]

And the referendum?

[210ox]

What, a referendum? He that became the initiator of the coup d'état? Isn't it the other way around? Turned everything upside down.

[Barge_watchman]

I'm talking about bloody porridge cooks.
So who brewed?

[210ox]

Cooks, along with confectioners (cookies), were clearly in Kiev and west

[Barge_watchman]

By name. plzst.

[210ox]

verbiage? If he said, in Moscow, then he didn’t ask by name?

[Barge_watchman]

Yap?
He whistled - and into the bushes?

[210ox]

Why respond to an empty liberoid? An empty place? Judging by the comments in the article?

[Barge_watchman]

Well, I say - in the bushes.

[Alexander Salenko]

What's wrong with memory?
So I remind you that the first blood was shed back in Kiev on February 18 in the Mariinsky Park, when Bandera sluts attacked the Anti-Maidan, I myself was a participant in those events, I can tell a lot of things.
But we are talking about the Donbass, and who tried to talk with the Donbass at all after the coup? No, they immediately began to be frightened by technology. With the Crimea, although late, but one pepper came to talk, he later became the president of Ukraine, they did not begin to talk with the Donbass at all.
You take care of your health.

[lukewarm]

He was actually after the coup. Do not confuse the chronology!

[Vladimir Mashkov]

The decision to supply the necessary modern weapons to the LDNR is the right one. But neither the supply of the most modern weapons to the LDNR, nor the recognition by Russia of the stubs of the Donetsk and Luhansk regions - the LDNR - the issue of the existence of a "hornet's nest" of Russophobia and neo-Nazism near Russia with the prospect of becoming a NATO foothold does NOT solve the issue! Both thinking and acting must be broader, more promising, more decisive, and not like a horse in blinders!

[for]

Quote: Vasily Chernyshev

Good handling...

All these appeals are "steam for the whistle".

[Evil543]

Nothing will be officially delivered, we signed the Minsk agreements. And if you poke your head, let Mishiko be asked what will happen, all the more it is voiced.

[Alexander Salenko]

Ukraine is also a signatory, but it accepts foreign military personnel, i.e. directly violates the contract. So you can get around. And moreover, to say that as soon as foreigners leave Ukraine, Russian weapons will also leave, and whether they actually leave or not is another question.

[Vasily Chernyshev]

Better steam from a whistle than silence...

[Polite Moose]

Quote: Vasily Chernyshev

Better steam from a whistle than silence...

But what about "Putin's Sinister Silence"? It’s not so long ago that it’s not just whistles, it “beeps” tore some people ..

[lopvlad]

Quote: for

All these appeals are "steam for the whistle".

before announcing such appeals in the media, such an appeal is coordinated within the Russian authorities.

[Polite Moose]

Quote: for

All these appeals are "steam for the whistle".

Do you think anyone in the government will refuse United Russia?

[nnm]

I hope that things are moving towards official recognition of the republics and further inclusion in Russia.
Enough of these politeness with the West
There will still be sanctions, but here are a million+ lives of brothers and sisters. We will survive any sanctions together

[Barge_watchman]

You decide: "republic" or "composed" ...
What? no. not the same thing.

[Evil543]

And what are the difficulties? There are republics in Russia, we are the Federation . Don't they teach this in Ukrainian schools?

[Barge_watchman]

And here "is"?. I, oh "take"
Take part of another country into the composition, - sounds like?
However. never mind. Either way, anyway. - unambiguously withdraw from M-2, and become no longer a guarantor. but a party to the conflict.
with all the perks that come with it.

[nnm]

And about your addition. No, we won’t, legally, we are liable only from the moment of admission to the Russian Federation and all previous circumstances will not have legal significance.
Excuse me, but what conflict will we become a party to? Ukraine has oos / ato there. And when the republics become the territory of Russia, what kind of conflict and side are we talking about? When did Ukraine declare war on Russia? I don’t remember something like that .. it turns out that there are no sides anymore.

[Barge_watchman]

Don't worry, the ICC will explain. There are good lawyers.
However, I think the commies will be reined in. with their initiative.

[nnm]

I won't even ask what the ICC has to do with it. Obviously, you are not even familiar with his jurisdiction. And by the way, excuse me, is this the same ICC whose prosecutors the United States promised to lay out and try in the United States when it came to considering US war crimes committed in local conflicts?

[Barge_watchman]

What are you worried about, that one, not that one?
The bailiff will knock on the door with a sentence, and ask him.
Now they still recognize the country as a sponsor of terrorism, it will be completely bad. You won't get rid of this soon.

[victor50]

Quote: Barge_watchman

you won't wash it off soon.

Were already the "evil empire", by the way, are you with you together. If you are from Ukraine, then I can say that it is better to let the whole world call names whatever you like, especially since the smart ones never took it seriously, than to run around the world with outstretched hands. Ever since Kuchma, it has become customary: "We are independent, help us, give us food. Only "America is with us!" - what is it worth! You are not disgusted, you are not sick of your" independence ". You do not have it even at the subconscious level. Ugh!

[Barge_watchman]

It was, I don't deny it. And the South Korean, shot down together.

If you are from Ukraine

From. From {state} Ukraine. test word. Be ashamed. Well, you celebrated the sixteenth spring .. (c)
Nauseous - so do not meddle with us. Stay home.
Forget us! and you will immediately feel better...

[victor50]

Quote: Barge_watchman

From. From {state} Ukraine. test word.

Now it's trendy to fit in. Tolerance. But this is not for me.

Quote: Barge_watchman

Nauseous - so do not meddle with us. Stay home.
Forget us! and you will immediately feel better...

And I don't climb. Yes, and others not so much. But you, in front of the owners, somehow need to bend over the bone, to serve. But as?! It turned out that there is only Russophobia in the price! Well, let's go, let's go. Aren't you ashamed of such independence?! However, I don't need your answer. Tried to bite and then squeal in fear for 8 years! "Help, save our independence!" I despise.

[Barge_watchman]

Well, not everyone is crawling in front of the yellow gentleman ...

[victor50]

Quote: Barge_watchman

Well, not everyone is crawling in front of the yellow gentleman ...

And not to crawl at all - it doesn’t even occur to your head? Check the block head - you have a malfunction alarm! Crawl to health. And I’m also curious about the situation, if suddenly the Russian Federation and the United States become friends! That will be a shock for you! To whom to sell? Don't bother writing, I won't read anyway. Happy, born to crawl!

[Reserve buildbat]

The caretaker of the tub, here you are going bankrupt "do not interfere with us" and so on, so maybe you will not tear your ass here with all your might on the Russian resource? Or are you, boy, a masochist? Without a torn opy, does he jump badly in the name of Bandera, who, as you know, was a passive "gay"? Your ideal with slick hair?
And by the way, in Russian "from Ukraine, in Ukraine." The nonsense of the Bandera-fascists who are changing the "Ukrainian language", which never existed and does not exist, does not matter in Russia. Kyyuv there they say either Kiyiff, at least "Key-town". We don't care.

[storm]

Take part of another country into the composition, - sounds like?

In 1922, the USSR transferred Donbass and Novorossia to the newly formed Ukrainian SSR.
Since Ukraine seceded from the USSR, and Russia is the legal successor of the USSR, Russia's demand for the return of the lands transferred then is also quite legal.
If you don’t want to be with Russia, return what you received from Russia when you united with it in the USSR and live separately as you like!!!

[Barge_watchman]

USSR, At 22?!
The USSR became part of the UNR. There is a map in NET, look.
in addition, in 1954, the Ukrainian SSR transferred to the RSFSR, Kuban. Will you return?

[storm]

The UNR is right-bank Ukraine without the Krivoy Rog-Donets Republic, without Crimea, Odessa, Nikolaev...

[nnm]

Didn't you notice that Crimea was returned in that order? First recognition of its independence and only then acceptance into the Russian Federation? Still, it's elementary - the leaders of the regions of Ukraine, more precisely, according to Minsk 1,2 - ORDLO, do not have the right to such appeals, but the leaders of independent republics do. That is why this approach is used. It also solves the issues of transfer of state property and so on.

[Barge_watchman]

but the leaders of the independent republics have.

Twice, no.
First. It is not the leader who decides (there is no king from the Goblin), but parliament. with a quorum.
Second.
you distort. The full name is the Autonomous Republic of Crimea, part of Ukraine.
Because-only a popular referendum. He was absent.
Well, about ORDLO, tell me, what is the name of the legal mechanism for secession of part of the country? about the referendum on pipifax. - no need. he doesn't fit anywhere.
?

[nnm]

Stop exaggerating. I can write not "head", but an authorized body / official, in the manner determined by the current legislation, will it become easier?
We are not engaged in scholasticism, but we are discussing the essence of the issue
There was a referendum, this time.
And secondly, be curious about the decisions of international courts on the Kosovo precedent, which determined the primacy of the right of a group, people, nationality to self-determination over the right of territorial integrity. Everything. Dot.
You can consider it a pipifax, you can not recognize it, you can do anything, but after the courts on Kosovo, all your objections make no sense. But even then Russia warned that you were opening Pandora's box.

[Barge_watchman]

Tell me, in which country does the "authorized" decide on territorial issues? Well, except for the one we know...
We don’t have that.
There was a referendum. but outside the law. The constitution clearly spells out the order, and this, there and not lying around.
Kosovo, there has never been a precedent, do not touch the owl.
Again. In Crimea, there is NO separate nation that does not have its own country.
You just opened the box. I had to get in so hard....

[nnm]

"we", sorry, who is this? And what do you know? Probably the way the government of the Netherlands did not give a damn about the results of the referendum, in which citizens voted against signing an agreement with Ukraine?
I repeat once again - after the decisions of international courts on Kosovo, all your domestic laws and so on are not worth the paper on which they are written. That's all, if a referendum is held, as it was in the Crimea, then the issue is closed. Read at least these decisions and then stop writing nonsense. Or do you think that the referendum in Kosovo was held according to the laws of Yugoslavia?))

[Sergey Gusak]

Those. Do you, in principle, allow a referendum like the Crimean one to be held in any Russian region?

[nnm]

Theoretically - yes (I don’t know the future, maybe in 50 years the country will burst at the seams at the suggestion of the new Yeltsin, but it’s exactly the same that there will be more USSR), practically - no. All these problems a la Kosovo can arise only in case of weakness of the authorities, which has not yet been observed in Russia. And the country will have enough strength and means to prevent such steps.
But for weak countries, Kosovo's courts, in fact, introduced the norm - "woe to the vanquished!" That is, weak.

[Puler]

before the referendum, if YOU forgot there was a coup d'état, that is, a violent change of power in an unconstitutional way,.,. this is the first reason...

[lukewarm]

If the region has autonomy and has the right - theoretically yes. Only for this push is needed in the form of a coup d'état. And not cosmetic, but turned the country 180 degrees. In fact, we've been through it twice already. First, the Union collapsed. And the two Chechen companies? This will be worse than statements about sovereignty! Nothing, survived.

[Barge_watchman]

Yes, it will grow together without a referendum ...

[Barge_watchman]

Yes, sorry. "You" - it's not you personally, And those who squeezed the Crimea, Against the law. Like Russian. both Ukrainian and international. And, do not argue - the UN has clearly indicated this.
Still, quite, again, the referendum was held in violation of the Constitution of Ukraine, but in Russia there is no such thing ... Do not drag the owl, it has long been rotten ...
You are completely. Where is Kosovo, where are our laws? No, well, it’s understandable for you, for many years you have been trying to convince yourself that Ukraine is not a state at all, but a territory, even the spelling has been changed ...
But on your Wishlist, 106 countries, put. Or laid down?
Closed so closed, the world does not care.
I will. give a name and proof.
I don't know and don't want to know how the Kosovo ref went. Besides, case law, it's only in Britain. and here - well, no sideways.
By the way, are you interested to know that each republic in the SFRY had its own laws?
You always distort - you call the Russian Federation Russia, and the SFRY - Yugoslavia.
Have pity on the owl.

[nnm]

One more time, for the last time. Abstract from your emotions and already hear me!
The primacy of the right of a people, a group of people to self-determination over the principle of territorial integrity has been recognized by international courts following the Kosovo precedent. The presence / absence of a state for the acceptance of a group is not the only condition, but is only one of many reasons. The Crimeans wanted to be an independent state, and this is their right according to the decisions of the courts. Therefore, whether you want to know how the courts were held in Kosovo, whether you want to know what legislation the referendums were based on, it does not matter at all. The Kosovo precedent is enshrined in court decisions, period. And neither Georgia nor Ukraine even filed such claims, because they understand that after Kosovo it is useless.

[Barge_watchman]

With manic persistence, you talk about my emotions. Hammer - I'm calm and relaxed.
The right of primates, I don't care, but you stubbornly push the decision of some court on the Kosovo issue. Again. - this decision is not a precedent! This is a one off solution!
And then I got you. Crimeans - who is this? People? Nation? about a "group of people" - that's not necessary, there is no such definition in the decision on Kosovo, you are dragging the ears of an owl ...
Further... Again contradict. if they wanted to become independent, why didn't they? Now, they are dependent. and not the state even once ... eh?
Solutions. - what courts? Name. Just don't go as usual!
Ukraine did not file claims. - it's not needed. By a UN resolution (name the number? I'm not you, I don't rush words), Crimea is recognized as the annexed territory of Ukraine. FOR - 106 states.
Point.
Your turn!

[nnm]

Well, yes .... of course not a precedent !!! The decision, which states that peoples, nations, groups (regardless of the specific) have the right to self-determination and that this right prevails over the principle of the territorial integrity of states (of all, and not just of Yugoslavia).
I applaud standing!)))

[Barge_watchman]

Applauding, do not forget to jump.
Okay, they screwed up. President.
That's it, the whole world has recognized Crimea as ours, tomorrow the sanctions will be lifted.
And the day after tomorrow, Sberbank of Russia will open a branch in Sevastopol.

[nnm]

1. Funny. Excuse me, but jumping is more in your line, or, sho, who doesn’t jump, that .....?)))
2. Here you again show that you did not understand anything. Yes, we don’t care who admitted what, who didn’t. It is important that we ourselves acknowledged. And as "the whole world" did not recognize, then you tell Siemens, who "did not know" where his turbines were going)))
3. Why do you think that I do not have the same questions for Sberbank, etc.? There is. But I will not discuss them here, and not with you.

[nnm]

Quote: Barge_watchman

You always distort - you call the Russian Federation Russia

Colleague, you won’t believe it, but according to paragraph 2 of article 1 of the Constitution, both options are permissible and equal in legal force)))

[Barge_watchman]

Well, given how fun and provocative this constitution is changing (as well as spelling), I have more faith in the rigorous science of geography.
On the political map of the world, the state "Russia" is not found.
Google responded with a 404
Let's see, maybe at the Olympics, such a country will be found. From a distance it will be visible - by the flag.
Waiting, sir ...

[nnm]

Colleague, you’ll excuse me, but on the part of those who wipe their feet on their constitution, holding the third round of presidential elections, overthrowing the incumbent president by force, in violation of the norms established by it, imposing sanctions on their citizens, etc., etc., it’s ridiculous to listen to complaints about rewriting constitution.
And for lovers of Kiev to remake in Kuyiv, for fans of Danilov, who proposes to switch to the Latin alphabet, it is generally better to remain silent about spelling in Russian.
And about Russia or the Russian Federation - well, I wrote you an article of the constitution, well, is it really so difficult to look at it and not write nonsense. And what will be written on some maps on the Internet is absolutely indifferent to me, you can even write Muscovy, even Mordor, I just laugh at those for whom this "peremoga" is almost the meaning of their existence.

[Barge_watchman]

About wiping your feet on the constitution, says the one who "zeroes" on the stumps?
Ah, no! this is the one who shot HIS parliament with five inches, a couple of hundred killed., no. What are you, this is not a coup at all, nope ...
I suggest finishing penisometry.
especially since the waves of Marconi carry the message: Russia, once again, has been rudely refused...
Whereupon, I take my leave, the candles go out, the guards drive me out of the workshop.

[nnm]

Yes, yes, yes, and they refused, and humiliated, and wiped their feet, and so on through the entire list of "correct" terms, defined in a completely democratic way by the instructions of the disinformation center of Ukraine (as Zelensky called it repeatedly at the opening)! That's what Ukrainians would not amuse themselves with, if only they would not cry ...
You don’t even hear what we have been telling you since 2014 - don’t do what we did in the 90s, learn from our mistakes, and don’t jump on the next maydaun rake!
But seriously, I sincerely feel sorry for you, because the meaning of your life seems to be perfectly defined by the Ukrainian proverb "Hi, your house burned down, but the neighbor's cow died!"

[nnm]

On other people's mistakes *, of course.

[Barge_watchman]

The wolf took pity on the goat ... (C)
Nevermind.
I was too lazy last night, from the tablet, to ask Vintorez, I'll ask you ...
Personally, will you go to liberate Ukraine? Well, there, the storming of Kiev, that's all ... I'm interested in that. to decide what to buy - 7,62, or 12 cal. If "assault", then buckshot is more relevant ...
Here the other day, the Kremlin sharply denied the possibility of war, as I understand it - they will shoot.
That's why I'm asking. like a pro, will you go? Don't go for age. I'm not a boy either.

[nnm]

Buy what is long-range - otherwise it will be difficult to steal a little from Poland

[lukewarm]

Quote: Barge_watchman

the candles go out, the guards drive them out of the workshop.

At work, work. And then you will lose satellites. Space power.

[Barge_watchman]

I can use two hands, in Macedonian ..

[poquello]

Quote: Barge_watchman

The constitution clearly spells out the order, and this, there and not lying around.

it is written in the constitution that 10tych will shout on the Maidan and then run after the president with a gun?

[Barge_watchman]

"Don't confuse personal wool with the state one!" (With)
yes, ten thousand .... what a hundred were on the Maidan, an eyewitness?

[poquello]

Quote: Barge_watchman

"Don't confuse personal wool with the state one!" (With)
yes, ten thousand.

and there were no cameras

Quote: Barge_watchman

what hundred were on the Maidan, an eyewitness?

I will not go into the next toilet cubicle with this scum

[Barge_watchman]

Ah, OBS...

I will not go into the next toilet cubicle with this scum

so they won’t let you in, put it in your pants ...

[would]

The constitution clearly spells out the order, and this, there and not lying around.

And it is also stated in the Constitution of Ukraine that Yanukovych is still the president, but no one cares. In Kiev, they trampled on the Ukrainian constitution, devalued it, and already Crimea and Donbass, realizing what had happened, only made a retaliatory move.

Here, as in the joke "You either take off your cross or put on your underpants" - In Ukraine, they must either recognize the coup as unconstitutional, imprison all the participants, return the legitimate Yanukovych and then talk about the "unconstitutionality of the referendum", or not talk about Crimea.

[Barge_watchman]

[quoteAnd it is also stated in the Constitution of Ukraine that Yanukovych is still the president,] [/ quote]
Bring the article of the Constitution. At least a number. Eh?
I recall the presidential term. - 5 years. 11 years have passed since the election of Fedrych. You have confused the country, there is no lifelong kingdom in Ukraine.
What do you care about the constitution of Ukraine? You won't find it on the map.
To whom - should?
what is legitimate? okstites, the third term has gone.
About Crimea, its occupation, says the UN.

[would]

Yes, 5 years, and after that elections should be held... only they were not held after 5 years, but were held before the expiration of the presidency, that is, in violation of the Constitution of Ukraine. And there was a legal collision when Yanukovych and no one legally displaced and the elections were not held within the prescribed period.

You can deny it as much as you like, articles 103, 108, 111 of the Constitution of Ukraine will not change this.

About Crimea, its occupation, says the UN.

For several decades now, I have not cared about who and what "says", I believe only in facts.

[Barge_watchman]

before the expiration of the presidency, that is, in violation of the Constitution of Ukraine. AND

Nope. just according to the Constitution - "In the event of the absence of the president in the country, or with the impossibility of fulfilling his duties ..."
Absent? voluntarily escaped, by the way ..
did not perform?
at the time of his absence, the Acting Head of Parliament was. Gru ran away.
There was no conflict. There is a decision of the Constitutional Court, read it.
So it is a fact - universally recognized! there is even a document!
In general, this hysteria is genuinely amusing. for the eighth year, you are trying hard to convince yourself, first of all, that Krym is yours.
But Sberbank and Russian Railways are still against it!
If that were the case, it would have long been forgotten. But no....

[would]

Nope. just according to the Constitution - "In the event of the absence of a president in the country, or with the impossibility of fulfilling his duties ..." tongue

Congratulations Mr. Sovramshi! There is no such thing in the Constitution of Ukraine.

[Barge_watchman]

It is clear that the "presence of absence" is a banter.
Give a quote, as it is in the constitution. And the paragraph number.
Is it easy for you, do you remember it by heart?

[lukewarm]

Quote: Barge_watchman

trying hard to convince yourself, first of all, that Krym is yours.
But Sberbank and Russian Railways are still against it!

Well, Sberbank and Russian Railways, of course, are recognized authorities in such matters. Convince yourself? What for? Whose citizens are there? Whose troops? You provoked a legal srach here. In fact, laws are designed to cover up the right of the strong. It was by this right that the coup d'état was carried out. By this right, the trains of friendship rode. At that moment, when the Maidan "against thieves for Europe" became anti-Russian - that's all. You can take it back. No - go to .... mink.

[Barge_watchman]

Did I provoke it? you are hysterically proving to me that this is the eighth year ...
And State-owned companies spit on this from above. They know better!
Why - pick up? give it yourself...

[lukewarm]

I see you the first day and not 8 years and I do not prove anything. The worst thing you can do is make excuses and seek recognition from the enemy for your actions. It's my opinion. These companies have their own reasons: sanctions. I don't have any, so I'm just saying what I think. As for "give it yourself" - time will tell. The USSR was given the first persons. So here it is: anything is possible. Just don't flatter yourself - yours are no better. Already sold in bulk. Only IЙtsenyuh what was worth!

[Barge_watchman]

Pavel, fu be like that ... I'm talking - grimacing ...
I agree with you more often, you are not from local saber-toothed hamsters ...
And about the "recognition of their actions from the enemy." God forbid, but the Russian Federation has been doing this for eight years! unsuccessful, though...

[lukewarm]

Quote: Barge_watchman

"confessing one's actions to the enemy." God forbid, but the Russian Federation has been doing this for eight years! unsuccessful, though...

That's what I'm talking about. This also includes the actions of Sberbank and Russian Railways.

[Barge_watchman]

Here I am talking about.
Well, it would have been denied somewhere there, that one and the state offices there, but not the smallest ones ...
So, the ownership of Crimea is still in question ...

[Evil543]

First. It is not the leader who decides (there is no king from the Goblin),


And how do you like the president of the drug addict actor? Are you happy?

[Barge_watchman]

I AM? Of course, happy. And moreover. fortunately for me, President?
By the way, a drug addict is not a criminal.

[Evil543]

You know better in your circus, the main thing is not to deprive the dose, otherwise the withdrawal will begin.

Is working time over? And I thought you were a patriot, and you work out your salary.

[Barge_watchman]

Of course, see!
There, the carpetmen from the hall are bursting into the arena. Evil, with Kalashmats ... green, rude ... We are on them - a magician. He will turn them into toads. Green!

No, just two machines in operation. Distracted.
And I am always a patriot, not only during working hours. In the evening, I will shake up the disturbing backpack. and on Saturday, at the shooting range. And then - my brother is at the gate, but I didn’t shoot! mess...

[nnm]

Well, yes ... and the withdrawal of money from a private bank offshore is not a criminal (legalization of proceeds from crime, tax evasion, etc.), and decrees on sanctions against citizens of Ukraine without a court decision with the filing of the National Security and Defense Council are not a criminal (usurpation of power), and so on and so forth ... no, the halo just shines above him

[Evil543]

A bit faded. Or they forgot to wipe it, or the batteries are dead. Let Durasel ask friends.

[Barge_watchman]

Yes, Benya is still a fruit ... I remember how in the 14th he gave 10 kilodollars for a live separatist.
And Privat remained the best bank.

[nnm]

Yes, do not trifle, write about a billion for the head. Benya, who pays someone for something that does not bring him tenfold benefits - this is a smart joke.

[Barge_watchman]

Well, they say, two of the Benes were sold.
And now, he plays for his team.
By the way, ten kilobucks for him - for pins. Could afford. ah I think so. that I overpaid - for such a thing and a bit too much.

[nnm]

They say that chickens are milked ....
So-so confirmation.

Quote: Barge_watchman

And now, he plays for his team.

Is that how you described the fact that he put his hand in Ze like a puppet in the fifth point and plays with it? Yes, spit on Ze - yes, he turns the whole country as he wants.
Yes, think as you like, as you will be calmer.
Another thing is interesting, did you have such thoughts after Tlovaisk or after Debaltseve, or maybe after the WAP and Saur Mohyla?

[lukewarm]

Quote: Barge_watchman

By the way, a drug addict is not a criminal.

Have pity! I'm tired of laughing ... Here, we've lived! Who is better: a drug addict or a criminal! Yes, both ahem ... worse! Well, for the future, only the weight of the drug found on him separates the drug addict from the criminal. So do not be zealous guarding the barge. And then drown together. "Be there, ichthyanders, ... s" ©

[Barge_watchman]

What a criminal, what a drug addict (by the way, and who is he?), Everything is the same, he will not serve more than five years.
It's not our custom to keep a king for life.
This is how we differ from.

I'm guarding the barge for you. Here, let's get you together and...

[lukewarm]

You can immediately see a decent person! Then he cares about legality, he throws legal kakakhami. And then again - and in the barge me. Come on, pick it up. Don't forget the string barge. Will you get to Yaroslavl, sick man?

[Barge_watchman]

God forbid, Pavel, how could you think ... I didn’t go further than Balashov Saratovskaya ...... I was there at the ensign school ... for a long time ...
And I won’t drag you to the barge, no!
I will wait until the Lord gathers you all in one place.
I paint with red lead.

[lukewarm]

Well, we're about the same age. The school of ensigns in Balashov is no different under the USSR. I am in HVVAIU 3 courses. Further - independence, refusal of the oath, home, citizen. I "fight" in the internet)))) And in Balashov there was a military-technical military academy. Well, what about the barge Let it stand for now. Maybe we’ll all get smarter, and we’ll decide who to go there. Here I can not understand your attitude towards Ben. I am not strong in the rulers before the Maidan, but everyone who is after is definitely on a barge. Well, some of ours would have sold a ticket there.

[Barge_watchman]

That's right, school. and also ShMAS ... these were already on the same territory with us.
this was in the 85s.
And in 88, I passed the Achinsk VATU as an external student. Instrumentation and oxygen. Long-Range Aviation, ed.105A
I'm here on the forum, one of the few who smoke this topic.
By the way, in 88, I had a chance to visit the Tu-160m! Ours sat on the spare, we went to release, well ...

By the way, I saw the light for the first time, on Cold Mountain. RD N 5.
Attitude towards Ben ... twofold. Yes, he stole, ran away ... did not share with gunpowder ... I'm not sure that he did steal, but Privat was squeezed out of him in a lawless manner. Now the Americans are catching. I'm off topic, so I won't say anything.
But then, at 14...he really helped. it was he who made a fortress out of the Dnieper, gave a lot of money for the war. What can I say, when I fell in love with the Privat card, then in the department (in the database zone), they gave me a new one in seven minutes .. When asked why the Golden one (it was ordinary), they clearly said - Defenders are supposed to) Benya, in fact, built the best a bank in Ukraine, this cannot be taken away.
About our current ones ... I'm not happy either. I have known gunpowder for a long time, because then I was against it. and, to put it mildly, I don’t respect Zelya, but gunpowder is worse, and I voted against him (and not for Zelya. As, by the way, did the majority of 70%).
But, someone has to do it, right?
And there are no perfect people, I know for myself ..
But we definitely won’t allow to hang a life-long king around our necks.

[lukewarm]

Yes, you are older. I just entered in the 89th)

[Barge_watchman]

Quietly, Grandfather of Russian aviation!

I, finally, at 81, got into the BTA. In the underground
He served in the Reserve Command Post of the VTA and the Airborne Forces. Dungeon, in Vladimirskaya.

[ZeeD]

So he wrote about him))

[CYM]

Well, about ORDLO, tell me, what is the name of the legal mechanism for secession of part of the country?

Declaration of independence unilaterally. There is a precedent. According to the Serbian constitution, the territory of the Republic of Kosovo is part of the Republic of Serbia and is included in its composition as the Autonomous Province of Kosovo and Metohi.
On February 17, 2008, the Parliament of Kosovo declared the independence of Kosovo unilaterally. On July 22, 2010, the International Court of Justice recognized the legality of the decision of the Kosovo authorities to declare independence from Serbia.

[Barge_watchman]

but about ORDLO

According to the Serbian constitution, the territory of the Republic of Kosovo

I'm talking about Foma, you're talking about Yeryoma ....
Once again: what is the mechanism (prescribed in the Constitution), the withdrawal of certain regions from the country?

[CYM]

For obvious reasons, such a procedure for autonomies, and even more so for regions, will not be prescribed in any modern constitution. The right to secede from the union state was in Article 72 of the USSR constitution and, unfortunately, it was implemented.

[Alexander Salenko]

Well, okay, memory has nothing to do with it. So who said such nonsense that Crimea needs some kind of all-Ukrainian referendum? Do you live in this Crimea, are you related to it?
That's any wuiko from Galicia here, and I'm from the Crimea, does not live. With what fright will he decide for me in which state I live? So the USSR collapsed, the ARC has its own constitution, its own president, its own international relations, intra-Crimean parties, the term is the people of Crimea. On such conditions, Crimea remained a part of Ukraine, we were not going to, we were literally left. Then there was an attack on autonomy, the constitution was rewritten, and everything else listed was eliminated. It's called aggression, actually. If it were possible, we would have come out under Kuchma when all this was being carried out.
Now about how to transfer it to Russia, and suddenly, you say, there is Tatarstan or Dagestan, but nothing. the conditions for coexistence were not violated by the leadership of the Russian Federation, so there is a difference between Crimean "separatism" and, for example, Dagestan separatism.

P.S. Sevastopol was not transferred to Ukraine at all, only party bodies functioned there, they did not even learn the Ukrainian language there, as they did in the Crimean region. Those. in fact, Ukraine not only occupied Sevastopol, but also charged money for it. You can search through all the archives, there is no act of transferring the city of the Ukrainian SSR.
Checkmate.

[Barge_watchman]

So who said such nonsense that Crimea needs some kind of all-Ukrainian referendum?

Constitution of Ukraine. In which, on the rights of autonomy, the ARC enters.
Yes, what is it to me? I personally disdain Crimea. The last time was in 1994, no more foot.
If they had gone out according to the law, no one would have uttered a peep, as if I'm telling you.
And now ... yes, live as you want. Only, plz, return the state property of Ukraine, do not be petty thieves.

[Alexander Salenko]

Which Ukraine? There is no legitimate Ukraine, and if there is no Ukraine, then we are on our own. My friend, you are like a tank, why do we have to coordinate something with those who themselves laid on the constitution?

[El Chuvachino]

At the time of the referendum, Crimea was no longer part of Ukraine.

[Barge_watchman]

What, announced the Manifesto?

[El Chuvachino]

This is the result of a vote by the Crimean Parliament. The constitution in Ukraine did not work at that moment.

[lukewarm]

Crimea had the status of autonomy within Ukraine. That is why there were at least some legal grounds for recognition, then entry. And, most importantly, it was done quickly, clearly and consistently. As for the Republics, it was the other way around. They asked for recognition. "Sam" politely refused them. Now what? Another thing is that there is pumping, things are moving towards war. It's a completely different story.

[Barge_watchman]

autonomy within Ukraine. That is why there were at least some legal grounds for recognition, then entry

No.
Crimea lived according to the constitutionUkraine, in which " all-Ukrainian referendum".

[KCA]

In fact, the country is called the Russian Federation and its federal structure includes many republics, for example, Tatarstan, Chechnya, Adygea, Yakutia, Tuva

[Evil543]

They don't teach this in schools. It is customary to sing songs about Bandera there.

[Barge_watchman]

Exactly! everyday!
What songs do you sing in class? confess. I'm interested!

[Barge_watchman]

A lot of.
In addition to the Russian Republic ...
Just to remember. HOW they entered, it's better not to.

[nnm]

So what? Now, in the 21st century, we would still worry about the names of the regions ...
So remember, what is it? This is history, it must be accepted, and not rewritten as in Ukraine. Well, ok, then let's remember the history of the creation of the United States, what's the problem then?

[Barge_watchman]

Are you moving out? )))
Show on the map. Russian republic. Or Russian. within the federation. Russian.
On kraynyak, show, hint! the national territory of the Russian people, where he is, went.
Well, that's how Latius was among the Romans.
Only, I pray: - do not move away from the topic, answer directly!

[nnm]

I do not quite understand why such a republic should exist. Americans, for example, by origin are the descendants of the British, Mexicans, etc. But I don't see any national states. And the name of the nation was changed to a general one - the Americans. By area of ​​residence. Why does your self-esteem, understanding of historicity, etc. depend on the administrative names of the territories, which can be changed at least every day? For example, there was Georgia, now they called themselves Sakartvello or something like that and what, now we must assume that some new nation, nationality has appeared? Well, crap. How, in general, in your mind all this can coexist?
It is your self-esteem that depends on the preposition "in" or "on" Ukraine, and personally my self-esteem is completely independent of your pseudo-historical and pseudo-ethnic fantasies - if you want, consider that Russians do not exist, if you want, consider that you created our country .. In general, the opinion of the eternally offended, delusional inhabitants of the square is indifferent. Let your fantasies be studied by psychiatrists.

[Barge_watchman]

Are you leaving again? Where are the States, where is the Russian Republic.

Americans, for example, by origin - the descendants of the British,

Past. You weren't told. but - 40% of the population of the States (white), the descendants of the Germanic peoples.
I'll get you back on topic. Show on the map where the "Russian people" came from. His ancestors. You can simply name, but then, plz, an era. Answer directly, do not play around.

[lukewarm]

Quote: Barge_watchman

Just to remember. HOW they entered, it's better not to.

Do not - do not remember!
At the time when they entered, were such issues around the world resolved somehow differently? Russia is no better in this matter, but no worse either. At least the natives were not infected with smallpox.

[Barge_watchman]

Yes, I remember that. and "it's not worth it" - it's about you ... you don't know anyway.
And then, as in a fairy tale:
And Lenin said: let there be Ukraine.
..And Ukraine became .."

[Alexander Salenko]

It’s worth it, I’m wondering how the Republic of Tatarstan was part of the Russian Federation, or the RSFSR

[Barge_watchman]

Exactly! RF in 1922.

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: Barge_watchman

You decide: "republic" or "composed" ...
What? no. not the same thing.

First "republic", and then "into the composition", without any "or". If the LDNR initially held a referendum on independence from Ukraine, then what will prevent them from holding a referendum on joining Russia after recognition?

[Alf]

Quote: nnm

We will survive any sanctions together

Yes Yes

Quote: nnm

together

...

The Rothschild bank was wrong, and badly wrong. To whom is the crisis and sanctions, and to whom the mother is dear.

[Vikxnumx]

t, and then a million + lives of brothers and sisters

EMNIP in 2015, about FIVE million people moved to the Russian Federation.
True, in recent years our population has been declining by 1 million annually ...

[Zakirov Damir]

Quote: Vasily Chernyshev

Good treatment ... But it could have been much earlier

It used to be off topic, but now is the time!

[ROSS_51]

Quote: Vasily Chernyshev

Good treatment ... But it could have been much earlier

As soon as they gave the command, they turned to it .. Now the performance will be played, and they will already be driven into open equipment. Finally, something serious will be driven out like MLRS and Shells.

[spirit]

Vasilyev clarified that this is not a momentary decision, consultations on the supply of weapons to the Donbass were conducted both within the United Russia faction itself and in the State Duma Council.

Well, yes) as if someone needs an opinion of the scenery. It’s clear who steers and makes a decision

[Asad]

So, who should give such permission? That everything is decided by the president, I know. What about the protocol?

[vintorez]

It can first recognize the republics, and then supply weapons. And somehow it doesn't make sense.

[ultra]

It's not related at all.

[vintorez]

From whose point of view to look. If from the point of view of Ukraine and the West, then it will be the supply of weapons to terrorists, with all the ensuing consequences.

[Rubi0]

Even from the point of view of the West, the DPR and LPR are not terrorists, they are not recognized as terrorists in any official document, even in Ukraine itself. Politicians, of course, can shout whatever they want.

[vintorez]

There are documents. Even documents for the counter-terrorist operation. Everything is official.

[Sanichsan]

Quote from Vintorez

Even documents for the counter-terrorist operation. Everything is official.

where? in Ukraine?
but there are representative offices of the LDNR in France, the Czech Republic, Finland and other countries. official. the campaign everyone put a bolt on the squeals of Ukraine about the fact that there are terrorists in the Donbass

[vintorez]

All of them are practically closed.

[Sanichsan]

Quote from Vintorez

All of them are practically closed.

in some ways you are close to the truth. after recognition and acceptance into the Russian Federation, they can definitely be closed

[vintorez]

No one will accept them and is not even going to.

[Rubi0]

Let me remind you that even the fools in BP realized that the ato did not fit in with the law and renamed the operation the united forces of the oos, there are no terrorists in Ukraine, but there are separate regions of the Lugansk and Donetsk regions, do not pull an owl on the globe

[ultra]

And if we recognize it, then from the point of view of the West and Ukraine, will something change?

[vintorez]

South Ossetia, Abkhazia. They admitted that the bases are standing and so far everything is quiet.

[Barge_watchman]

Deliveries of weapons to separatists from the unrecognized
simulacra?
It is fraught ...

[Evil543]

So you go there, risk your health. It's safe to hang out here.

[Barge_watchman]

Already.
And I will, no doubt.
We Slavs have a strange (for you) habit - to protect our home.

[Evil543]

Has the work day begun?

[Barge_watchman]

Ага.
I will still, in my personal time, have so much fun ...
I read your thoughts - bot farm! Sorry. nope. Just at work, three laptops in a row, on one diagnostic computer. the second - schemes-manuals, and on the third - mail and entertainment ..
I mean, that's not what I'm paid for.

[Evil543]

And why just a bot farm. Everyone makes money

[Barge_watchman]

Well, sorry. It seemed.
And so. auto electrician diagnostician. Kagbe avatar hints

[Kapral Alphych]

Supply of weapons to the separatists

The supply of weapons to the Kiev regime is fraught for the same reason! Do not forget how your fascist regime came to power before you open your mouth towards the Donbass.

[Barge_watchman]

Cover the window.
Duet.

[Kapral Alphych]

Is that all you have enough fat in your head for?

[Barge_watchman]

I'd rather have fat than you have diarrhea.

[Kapral Alphych]

Diarrhea is treated, and fat instead of brains is for life! However, judging by how you dirtied the whole topic with your vysers, you still have diarrhea from fat and you are trying to make others do it! But this is a feature inherent in all forelocked Natsiks, therefore it is not even surprising.

[Alexander 3]

For the authorities, there are many options for solving this problem - Recognition and enforcement of peace. Recognition and entry of PMCs, although I think they are already there. For any banderlogs, they should be reduced in number.

[vintorez]

Who will fight and die?

[1976AG]

Quote from Vintorez

Who will fight and die?

Banderlogi

[vintorez]

Liquidate itself or will you go into battle from the couch?

[Sanichsan]

Quote from Vintorez

Liquidate itself or will you go into battle from the couch?

in civilized countries, including Russia, for these tasks there is a professional army provided with everything necessary in order to utilize whoever is needed.

[vintorez]

We have it too. But if not only a few, but hundreds of our servicemen start to die, then there will be a howl.

[Sanichsan]

why should they die? to Zelya a good report to the curator provided or for the chocolate business of an alcoholic?
in 2014 they figured it out in boilers, buried the trunks, crossed the border and surrendered to the Russian border guards. everyone is alive and well and went home to Ukraine. in the Russian Criminal Code there are articles for war crimes, but there are no articles for the fact that you were raked in the Armed Forces of Ukraine.
Of course, there are those who are fundamentally going to teach Ukraine to love Donbass, well, do not blame me here. this is their choice.

[vintorez]

I'm not talking about Ukrainian soldiers, but Russian ones.

[Sanichsan]

and why should the Russians die en masse? tea is not the 90s in the yard. in the old paradigm, do you expect tank wedges and infantry advancing in a chain on Ukrainian pillboxes? already in 2008 they did not suffer from such garbage, and now even more so.

[vintorez]

How many died in 2008 in five days? But nobody canceled the infantry and tanks, it all depends on what you want. In Syria, both tanks and infantry, although they are howling with terrorists who do not have such weapons as the Armed Forces of Ukraine and there are losses, and not small ones.

[Sanichsan]

Quote from Vintorez

How many died in 2008 in five days?

170 servicemen and employees of the Ministry of Internal Affairs, including those peacekeepers who took the first blow. and this in 2008, even before rearmament, reorganization of the army and gaining rich experience in Syria.

Quote from Vintorez

In Syria, both tanks and infantry, although they are howling with terrorists who do not have such weapons as the Armed Forces of Ukraine and there are losses, and not small ones.

their weapons are the same American, the instructors are the same, tanks, TOU and Grads were available, and the losses were mainly not with the Russian army, but with the Syrian army, which, no matter how once, was not the Russian army.
Of course, there will be losses, but less than those of the Azerbaijani army in the recent conflict. By the way, I don’t remember that at least someone said that this company was a failure for Azerbaijan.

[vintorez]

For five days, 180 people, is that not enough for you? As I understand it, you don’t have to fight and losses of several thousand are nonsense, of course. You probably were in the SAR, what do you write about something that you don’t know at all?

[Sanichsan]

Quote from Vintorez

For five days, 180 people, is that not enough for you?

wow humanist!!! there your friends, the Ukronazis, have already killed several tens of thousands! and not soldiers, but civilians. women, children and the elderly. and you are here to offer to wait until hundreds of thousands die??? under the pretext that if we stand up for our citizens (there are citizens of Russia, if you suddenly forgot), then someone from the military, who is paid money for defending the interests of the country's citizens with weapons, can be killed?

[vintorez]

There are citizens who want to eat fish and ride a bicycle, having received Russian citizenship. My friends serve in the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation and I don't want to bury them. And I would like to ask what the citizens of Russia are doing on the territory of a neighboring state, and even in the ATO zone?

[Sanichsan]

Quote from Vintorez

My friends serve in the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation and I don't want to bury them.

so write to them to quit! what did they forget in the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation? this is the army. the army fights, and in the war they kill. if your friends are professional enough then they will kill, if not enough then them.
I’m even wondering why do you need an army in your opinion? for parades? or to support the gay community as in Germany?

Quote from Vintorez

And I would like to ask what the citizens of Russia are doing on the territory of a neighboring state, and even in the ATO zone?

exactly ask? not under the fool to mow down? the program for issuing Russian citizenship to residents of the LDNR for more than a year. no, haven't you heard?

[vintorez]

They all fought, they are seriously injured. Did you fight, buried your friends? Only they somehow do not need these smart-ass citizens. If they feel bad there, let them go to Russia. Yes, and let them fight. And then quickly healthy men hid in Russia, for some reason they didn’t run to fight.

[Sanichsan]

Quote from Vintorez

They all fought, they are seriously injured.

specify where?

Quote from Vintorez

Only they somehow do not need these smart-ass citizens.

sorry what?!? Well, in principle, as an answer to my question about what is in your view of the army, it will do. in your imagination, the army is some kind of Makhno gang that fights here because there is plunder, it doesn’t fight here because it’s not interesting, and if it’s dangerous, then “we went ...” because they can kill. well, for a certain category of people, norms

Quote from Vintorez

If they feel bad there, let them go to Russia.

they go to Russia. together with the land on which they were born and live

Quote from Vintorez

Yes, and let them fight. And then quickly healthy men hid in Russia, for some reason they didn’t run to fight.

they have been fighting since 2014. you don't know about it? didn't they write about it in the training manual at the Canadian Center for Cyber ​​Operations? you smell more and more distinctly of the "daughter of a Crimean officer"
gather your seriously wounded imaginary friends and go to the ukrams to tell them to throw their weapons and stomp home, they will really kill them from them.
your mission here failed. your moaning causes only contempt

[vintorez]

I didn't expect any other answer. Of course they fight. When you fight yourself, you won’t write such nonsense. You are all masters here to press Claudia, but there is no one to fight. They would have fought there if not for our "vacationers".
Surnames and where fought my friends submit?

[1976AG]

Quote from Vintorez

How many died in 2008 in five days? But nobody canceled the infantry and tanks, it all depends on what you want. In Syria, both tanks and infantry, although they are howling with terrorists who do not have such weapons as the Armed Forces of Ukraine and there are losses, and not small ones.

Well, if you are going to hand-to-hand, then this is of course your right, but as usual we will not come to the war, we have enough funds for non-contact combat)) you can drive as many people as you like into the trenches and arm them with javelins, but we have enough funds, to reformat them into cargo 200 without violating the borders of Ukraine)))

[vintorez]

What are you saying. You can see it better from the couch. Maybe you want to fight? Not to write any nonsense.

[Nastia makarova]

not small is how much?

[vintorez]

Why are you interested in?

[Barge_watchman]

And many gave up? puff please.

[Barge_watchman]

Ichthamnets and utkinses?

[Barge_watchman]

And against them - tobacco ...

[1976AG]

Quote from Vintorez

It can first recognize the republics, and then supply weapons. And somehow it doesn't make sense.

If we recognize the republics, then within their administrative boundaries, and not in the zone now controlled.

[poquello]

Quote from Vintorez

It can first recognize the republics, and then supply weapons. And somehow it doesn't make sense.

the Minsk agreements imply two sides of the internal conflict, the US and the EU supply weapons to one of the parties to the internal conflict, recognition here is logically, as if from a completely different opera that the bourgeoisie pulled for their own violation of Minsk

[The Siberian barber]

Sharing the position, not without a smile, I state: they turned to themselves)))

[Thrifty]

I’m only for, but on the condition that the “United Russia” themselves, especially the second-hand governors, chip in, sell collections of diamonds, gold watches, yachts, mansions in the country and abroad, in short, in what they have stuck to their hands during the governorship, and part of the money HONESTLY as taxes will be contributed to the country's budget, and the rest will buy weapons and military equipment. There will be enough not only for the Donbass, but we will also be able to modernize the poor Kuzya, and purchase an additional dozen Su57s by the end of the year, and start mass production of new platforms like Armata. And then they are masters of PR, and as for a specific case, they poke around foreign bushes ...

[sifgame]

really thrifty and naive

[Barge_watchman]

Today he is in a different form. This one writes without errors, coherently and logically.
The one - with errors, incoherently. and constantly commemorates "uk-roina".
Jekyll and Hyde.

[Thrifty]

Do you want to send cucumber heads, or will you find a snack yourself? I always write from a smartphone, most often at work, standing in traffic jams, when loading and unloading a car, but I see you have nothing to answer - "my first teacher" ???

[Barge_watchman]

Oh, today is the first hypostasis.
And what, spelling was canceled in the smartphone? and banned punctuation?
Confess while you're arguing with forwarders. does the one who travels in the bedroom write for you? I don’t have a subtitle, it’s just that your texts are sometimes strikingly different. Sty-li-sty-chesky, in!
And by the way, yes. - I know Russian clearly better than you, but I won’t teach it - it’s expensive ....

[Thrifty]

The watchman of the head, it means that you urgently needed cucumbers yesterday .... it turns out bad, things

[The Siberian barber]

Do you even read what you write?
The mayor or the second-hand mayor, rushed to the bank to transfer the loot "to tanks"?)))
Stop smacking nonsense, because it hurts (c)
Excuse me)

[Thrifty]

The Siberian barber is my opinion, in response to the self-promotion of the "party of power" that has reached power! They always talk nonsense, but you didn’t notice it in their speeches before ??? PS-SORRY!!!

[The Siberian barber]

I understand your aspirations, but let's be realistic, without slogans!)
With uv.)

[Thrifty]

Siberian barber - that's what they decided !!! You also with respect!

[75 Sergey]

They will rebuild factories and go to work for them as ordinary accountants!

[kebzuref]

finally

[75 Sergey]

Yep, cheers! There is nowhere to test

[kebzuref]

Don't get burned)))

[Amateur]

Is it possible now that the deputies from the United Russia, all as one, will go as volunteers to the militia of the LPR / DPR in order to protect Russia from the imperialists in the trenches of Donbass.

[75 Sergey]

Yeah, and they turned their faces to the people ... Don't be ridiculous, cheap populism

[Keyser soze]

Is it possible now that the deputies from the United Russia, all as one, will go as volunteers to the militia of the LPR / DPR in order to protect Russia in the trenches of Donbass

In in, when your aristocracy was in the forefront, near Borodino. Wait, you can’t pick them out of yachts and rubles ... Something went wrong with you.

[Tamparu]

Quote: Keyser Soze

Is it possible now that the deputies from the United Russia, all as one, will go as volunteers to the militia of the LPR / DPR in order to protect Russia in the trenches of Donbass

In in, when your aristocracy was in the forefront, near Borodino. Wait, you can’t pick them out of yachts and rubles ... Something went wrong with you.

Unfortunately, that aristocracy was destroyed in the last century. At best, now there are descendants of the "bastards" of that "blue blood". The current ones cannot be called that a priori ...

[Sanichsan]

Quote: TampaRU

Unfortunately, that aristocracy was destroyed in the last century.

Worldwide? From now on, no aristocracy goes into battle at all. what kind of genocide happened?! or complete moral decay

[Tamparu]

Quote: SanichSan

Quote: TampaRU

Unfortunately, that aristocracy was destroyed in the last century.

Worldwide? From now on, no aristocracy goes into battle at all. what kind of genocide happened?! or complete moral decay

To me, to put it mildly, a bolt on the aristocracy of the Western world ... It is important for me what is happening with us. Please excuse my French...

[Sanichsan]

Quote: TampaRU

I care what happens

Yes, exactly the same as in the whole world. estates have sunk into oblivion along with monarchies. and as for Russia specifically, Catherine II also abolished compulsory military service for the aristocracy. so it all rotted before the Bolsheviks amputated this gangrene

[Evil543]

And your aristocracy? Where should you pick it up?

[ultra]

We do not have a monarchy and therefore no aristocracy.

[Alf]

Quote: Keyser Soze

Something went wrong for you.

You might think that you have a different aristocracy ..

[D16]

You might think that you have a different aristocracy ..

The other ended in a light cavalry charge. shutka .

[Alf]

Quote: D16

You might think that you have a different aristocracy ..

The other ended in a light cavalry charge. shutka .

You are right again, my young padawan. Hey !

[75 Sergey]

This is from rags to riches, this is ours just like yours, and if yours hadn’t been based near Russia, we would have fused this one to you.

[spirit]

Is it possible now that the deputies from the United Russia all as one will go as volunteers to the militia of the LPR

Yeah, like Abramovich) He will sit and drink wine in a NATO country with some official from the European Parliament and discuss how the enemies screwed up the country

[75 Sergey]

I thought so, well, he doesn’t look like a Russian and his last name is somehow not like that. Here is the muzzle! Take everything away from him and let him go to Portugal to earn money.

[Barge_watchman]

And what, Edro. already scored on Minsk-2, and recognized, without prior notice, the republics - "Separate districts of the Donetsk and Luhansk regions" (Ukraine)?

[Tagan]

Quote from Vintorez

From whose point of view to look. If from the point of view of Ukraine and the West, then it will be the supply of weapons to terrorists, with all the ensuing consequences.

What other terrorists? By whom are the republics recognized as such?

[Barge_watchman]

illegal armed formations. It'll do?

[Evil543]

And how many terrorist attacks on the territory controlled by Kiev did they commit? And how many terrorist attacks were on the uncontrolled?

[sabakina]

Evil543, it's useless to talk to him. I would not be surprised if he is on the salary of the State Department / Pentagon. (There was an article here that they are recruiting Russian-speaking trolls.)

[Evil543]

He's not from next door. Working time is up. Gone. Near the computer is warmer than in the trenches.

[Barge_watchman]

Well, do you know about the trenches, do you know?
I've been there...

[Evil543]

Duc knew before yours.
You are our optimist. In what city such patriots?

[Barge_watchman]

Before, is it February 14th?
otherwise, later.
Do not believe it - in everyone.
Keep not believing.

[Evil543]

Much earlier. Much
And more than once

[Barge_watchman]

Ah, then it's understandable.
just thought we could meet eyes in the scope.
Direct question, please?
Will you go this time?

[Evil543]

Not too many questions for an auto electrician?

[Barge_watchman]

In the database zone, I commanded a consolidated company.
Are you afraid to confess?

[Evil543]

If ? Either you or I would not exist.

[Barge_watchman]

Yes, I said goodbye.
when politicians get out and lie, it's understandable - such is the work.
But when the soldiers .... without shoulder straps, without chevrons. It will come, it's mute, the North wind, gee-gee...
We - not pissed.
However, we are not fighting the Abramovichs and Deripaskas, and not even for the Akhmetovs. For your home, family.
You probably won't understand, sorry.
____________________________

[Barge_watchman]

When I apply for the Pentagon, will you put in a word? I can speak three more languages.

[Barge_watchman]

The shelling of residential areas of Mariupol. missiles MLRS Grad. Two packages. That is, a volley, then an adjustment (they knew that they hit), and again a volley. Dozens of dead, all civilians. There were no military installations in the area.
Still?
On the uncontrolled - Tsemakh was stolen. But those are investigative actions.
And the engine and zaharasta - it’s not us., I’m saying for sure. I would know.
Well, and the loudest ... Name it, or do you know it yourself? there is no way to get rid of that.

[Evil543]

Let's. Yours with the air .pro have already leaked about the beech.

[Barge_watchman]

In general, from the decision of the tribunal in the Netherlands.
aviationpro - what is it?
So what about Mariupol? will you deny? it's nemes, what's your evidence?

[Evil543]

Well, I can say that your castles were on the outskirts of Kharkov.

[Barge_watchman]

What?
the first time I've heard. I would know.
You see, I saw the light for the first time, in the Fifth, on Cold Mountain. and grew up, at 602 mr ...
By the way, in the Izyumsky district, Malaya Rodina, so, you know, for your own ...

[Evil543]

Somewhere between Kharkov and Zmiev. 14 year

[Barge_watchman]

Van-women-sade?
one hundred km. almost close.

[Evil543]

The distance of the hail to the center. +/-. You were at war.

[O. Bender]

It would be more logical if the leadership and the people of the republics turned to Russia, and even ep initiated this in the Duma.

[75 Sergey]

Cheap attempt to earn points!

[Ashes of Claes]

Quote: 75Sergey

Cheap attempt to earn points!

not so, I must say, and cheap. The consequences will be very tangible.

[Alf]

Quote: Ashes of Klaas

Quote: 75Sergey

Cheap attempt to earn points!

not so, I must say, and cheap. The consequences will be very tangible.

For whom ? For members of the United Russia or for the population of Russia?

[Ashes of Claes]

Quote: Alf

For whom ? For members of the United Russia or for the population of Russia?

weird question. Of course, I am talking about the consequences for the population of the Russian Federation, of which I am a part. So that the patriotic exaltation of the layman, God forbid, is not replaced by an abstinence syndrome, the banter and throws in this populist crap. "You can't lower the degree" - Murphy's alcohol law.

[Alf]

Quote: Ashes of Klaas

Of course, I'm talking about the consequences for the population of the Russian Federation,

So I'm talking about the same. The population will get it, and the rich, as usual, will be saved by the state, i.e. treasury, i.e. we are with you.

[Ashes of Claes]

Quote: Alf

So I'm talking about the same. The population will get it, and the rich, as usual, will be saved by the state, i.e. treasury, i.e. we are with you.

That is exactly the perspective. Forced downshifting for most of the population. But nothing - on January 29, the Shoigu church will have fun called "Victory Parade on Ice"To Tuvan music. The trouble is when the Minister of Defense is a rapidly senile geront. But the conveyor of patriotic spectacles and patriotic stand-up from powerful comedians is working. Idiocracy is coming. Everything is in order.

[evgen1221]

Damn, they themselves understand what they are doing, well, for the future. Here the process of detente loomed on the horizon in the fog (possible gradual removal of weapons from the borders of the Russian Federation), and these (h by m) also rushed from our side to throw weapons. As if in a quiet it's hard not to yell at the whole galaxy about it. Facepalm ska.

[Andrea]

Russia is the guarantor of the implementation of the Minsk agreements, like, in fact, Germany and France, but they do not moo, do not calve.
Therefore, Russia will have to take the fate of the world in Europe into its own hands, as has always been the case since the time of Peter.

[Asad]

Agree that France and Germany do not supply weapons yet.

[Sanichsan]

Quote: ASAD

Agree that France and Germany do not supply weapons yet.

Agree that the United States, as well as EU countries like Poland, the Baltic states, etc., supply and France and Germany did nothing about this

[Sands Careers General]

"United Russia" appealed to the government with a request to provide military assistance to the republics of Donbass

Military assistance to Donbass has been and will be. What can not but rejoice))

[Ashes of Claes]

As far as I understand, arms exports are carried out exclusively under intergovernmental agreements. And how is the edrosnya going to legalize the military trade? That is, any rogue can act as a counterparty - and it's in the bag?
Dollar 80. It is necessary to drop even lower in order to fill the purse with export earnings before the inevitable sanctions - that's the whole point of this fuss.

[Sanichsan]

Quote: Ashes of Klaas

As far as I understand, arms exports are carried out exclusively under intergovernmental agreements.

I wonder under what intergovernmental agreements they armed the apposition in Syria?

Quote: Ashes of Klaas

It is necessary to drop even lower in order to fill the purse with export earnings before the inevitable sanctions - that's the whole point of this fuss.

so the sanctions are inevitable! what are you doing here? your fifth point smeared with Vaseline will not fix anything although the devil knows .. maybe you are pleased ...

[Andred72]

Hypocritical creatures, before this aggravation, they basked in Switzerland, but at the shout they began to yell that the Russians were in danger, what a bottom of power and a disgrace.

[Ashes of Claes]

Quote: Andred72

what a bottom of power and disgrace.

Not yet. Everything is ahead.

[Zaurbek]

It is most effective to transfer strike UAVs to LDNR ..... outposts ... and laser-corrected projectiles.

[Sanichsan]

Quote: Zaurbek

It is most effective to transfer strike UAVs to the LDNR

it is most effective to recognize their independence and accept from the independent republics a proposal to join the Russian Federation. then they will have at their disposal Iskanders and Calibers and the Black Sea Fleet and even the Strategic Missile Forces

[Zaurbek]

There are pitfalls here:
1. territory of the LDNR - a stub from the adm. borders of the LDNR
2. After the LDNR leaves for the Russian Federation ... Ukraine will lose the conflict on its territory .... and it can be taken into alliances

[Sanichsan]

Quote: Zaurbek

1. territory of the LDNR - a stub from the adm. borders of the LDNR

and? there the population is pro-Russian and we need to protect them. remind which of the participants in the process put forward demands for the restoration of the LDNR within the boundaries of the regions? this is possible if Kiev observes the Minsk agreements, but they will not agree to this. it is also possible if the Armed Forces of Ukraine are attacked before a decision is made on recognition and admission to the Russian Federation. more likely, but also not obvious.

Quote: Zaurbek

After the LDNR leaves for the Russian Federation ... Ukraine will lose the conflict on its territory .... and it can be taken into alliances

well, you tell the Georgians
in order to "lose the conflict on its territory" Ukraine needs to recognize Crimea and the republics as part of the Russian Federation. You understand that they will not do this, just as Georgia did not.

[Zaurbek]

I won't be surprised... if that happens.

[tralflot1832]

Or maybe first we’ll wait today for the results of consultations in the Normandy format. The miners will always have time to print the coal mine.

[neurostimulator]

Hurry up already, almost no one trusts you there.

[Ashes of Claes]

Quote: Neurostimulator

almost no one trusts you.

а hereDoes that mean they believe?

[neurostimulator]

they will shoot at the serious there, and not here, when the time comes for "H minus 5 hours" no one should have any doubts about what needs to be done. They believe, we believe.
Without help at all levels, nothing will come of it.

[Alf]

Quote: Neurostimulator

Hurry up already, almost no one trusts you there.

Yes, here too.

[neurostimulator]

About that and speech.

[rocket757]

"United Russia" appealed to the government with a request to provide military assistance to the republics of Donbass

And what "good treatment" will not replace the fact that IT WAS NEEDED TO WORK MORE CAREFULLY, to create and correct the legislative framework that helped our state, government and citizens to live and work fruitfully !!! Oh yes, it also created favorable conditions for our compatriots from over the hill, returning to their homeland, to our common fatherland and feeling that they are returning to THEIR HOMELAND.
Also, not only to create normal laws, but also to control their precise implementation!!! Yes, so that different huhs would not have temptations, opportunities, to create arbitrariness and not bear any responsibility for it.
For now, I have only one feeling...
Collaboration smears like soot.
I take someone’s hand, but I feel my elbow.
I look for the eyes, but I feel the look
Where above the goals is the butt.
Behind the red sunrise is the pink sunset.
Chained by one chain,
Linked by one purpose.
Chained by one chain,
Linked by one.

[Azis]

In the morning, I accidentally came across this track "Nautilus". How relevant is the song even today, 35 years later!

[rocket757]

What could be sadder or happier than objective reality?

[Barge_watchman]

Clap-clap Butusov. listen and think.
Yes, and there is Makar ... one-on-one.

[neurostimulator]

Plus sign to you, I also love Nautilus.

[rocket757]

It doesn't matter who, the main thing is the topic!
And this topic does not leave us in any way and never.
Alas, this is an objective reality.

[neurostimulator]

It is not necessary to state the obvious).

[rocket757]

Ascertaining or not ... it will not go anywhere, from us or for us, that's how it will turn out.

[neurostimulator]

Plus you.

[Tagan]

Quote: Barge_watchman

illegal armed formations. It'll do?

And they are not recognized as such.

[Barge_watchman]

So far - no ... Simply, such a task was not set. And they are named out loud, many times.

[Alf]

The Federation Council, commenting on Turchak's statement, said that the majority of Russians would support the call for the supply of weapons to the republics of Donbass.

The question is, how will He Who Should Not Be Named look at this proposal?
The situation is painfully reminiscent of 2014. We are waiting for the visit of the President of the country of banks...

[Third district]

Quote: Alf

We are waiting for the visit of the President of the country of banks...

Mr. Büsgalter has already booked a train ticket.

[vintorez]

And what not to support sitting on the couch. Who will go to war from the sofas? There is no line to be seen. Who the hell will you drive into the reservists.

[Alf]

Quote from Vintorez

Who will go to war from the sofas?

What is there to fight for?

[vintorez]

And you ask those who put a minus and shout forward to attack.

[Alf]

Quote from Vintorez

And you ask those who put a minus and shout forward to attack.

And no one will answer. Taking advantage of the fact that the admins do not want to comply with the rules they themselves have written, they silently shit and disappear.

[vintorez]

Then it is clear. Thank you.

[Alf]

Quote from Vintorez

Then it is clear. Thank you.

Not at all.

[Sergey3]

That's right, they obviously, fully equipped, a couple of divisions would not hurt.

[Azis]

Turchak... Turchinov... Turk brothers? By the way, Turchak's biography is very rich in "labor" for the good of the Fatherland. "Serving Russia - I serve ... the people"?

[Mishek]

Well, of course, EP has nothing to do with it, it's just time! The Amers were the first to fail, now it’s Russia’s turn. Everything is according to plan and the main thing is not to be nervous, calmly and methodically move towards the goal. Hold on Donbass, Russia covers with all its might
Hour X is already close and everything will be decided .. I hope without blood!

[Ural resident]

Why only appeal? It is possible to adopt a law, EP has a majority, and even the executive branch can approve it or not, but there will be a tool in the hands.

[p0pulivox]

"United Russia" appealed to the government with a request to provide military assistance to the republics of Donbass

Their task is propaganda - to maintain the degree of tension. I have a bad feeling that all these titanic efforts of representatives of the executive and legislative branches will lead to a result opposite to what was desired ...

[eehnie]

After the recent news about the supply of combat helicopters of the Mi-8 family by the United States and minesweepers by the United Kingdom to Ukraine, one could expect a symmetrical response from Russia.

This makes it clear that the level of defense of the Donetsk and Luhansk Republics, Abkhazia and South Ossetia is likely to be upgraded to current Russian standards. And the same will happen with Belarus.

The Minsk agreements are just death. This does not mean that this will be another military escalation in the Donbass. very likely, this means that peace will be based on purely military deterrence.

(Automatically translated from English. Below is the original commentary in English)

After the recent news about the supply to Ukraine of combat helicopters of the Mi-8 family by the United States and minesweepers by the United Kingdom, a symmetric answer by Russia was expected.

This makes evident that the level of the defense of the Republic of Donetsk and Lugansk, Abkhazia and south Ossetia is likely to be raised to the current Russian standards. And the same will happen with Belarus.

The Minsk agreements are fairly death. It does not mean That it will be another military escalation in the Donbas. Very likely it means the peace will be based in pure military deterrence.

[opuonmed]

how finely the RF plays!

[bondxnumx]

First, Russia must recognize the Independent States of the LPR and DPR (and in connection with what international laws and norms) And only then provide military assistance to PROTECT these states of their Independence and their citizens + protection of Russian citizens on their territory! And the more links to Int. law and norms ---- so much the better ! And with the help of any partisanship, the Americans, as they want, will represent the world. community, and under this pretext they will accuse Russia and STILL increase assistance to the conflict! Against int. the rights of the announced Americans will be powerless, their barking will remain barking and their assistance to Ukraine will look like it is ---- promoting aggression and inciting conflict between Ukraine and the Independent States! INTERNATIONAL LAW --- THERE IS INTERNATIONAL LAW , AND IT IS on the side of Russia , DPR and LPR , and WILL WORK if done correctly !

[faterdom]

United Russia goes out of its way to please the voters who, for the most part, did not vote for it.
So soon they will ask to give birth, but before that they didn’t ask.
Already such issues as sending weapons somewhere are decided in much quieter places, and by more responsible people.
Do you propose to cancel the shameful pension? Before waving the "weapon" from the stands.

[Brother]

Normally.
It is necessary that these republics of the LPR and the DPR made a request, an official one, as we say Kazakhstan in the CSTO! Only they are to Russia - "we ask you to provide military-technical assistance in connection with the threat to the life of the peaceful RUSSIAN and UKRAINIAN population of the republics."
And Russia will simply - "positively" answer this request!
A good example is Spain in 1936!

[VicktorVR]

Oh oh oh! What is he doing?!
Also, the entire composition of the faction will become restricted to travel abroad, and even the last villas on the Cote d'Azur and in Florida will be taken away from wives and children! :)
But there is no choice, the party said "it is necessary!" :)

[1536]

The Pentagon fighters are counting on dragging Russia into a war with Ukraine. Under this mute, the Black Sea straits, the Crimean peninsula, the exit of our fleet to the Mediterranean Sea to bases in Syria are blocked, the activities of which, in this regard, will have to be sharply limited or completely closed. Thus, Syria will again be at the mercy of American terrorists and their assistants, who are always there, like vultures. And there, the entire Middle East will forget for a long time that there were Russians here. Then Africa, which has just started to get out of hand lately. There is no need to talk about China's policy, because it turns out that this country and this people always turn out to be on the side of the winners.
Even if war can be avoided, and everything is heading towards it, voices have already been heard inside Russia that it is necessary to continue to negotiate "peace" with the United States in order to avoid war. The question "Why?" these people simply ignore, because they understand why and why. Apparently, the book "Perestroika and new thinking for our country and for the whole world" has become a desktop for them or simply is the first line in the gadget. The main thing is "Russia's responsibility to the World", should one "sacrifice oneself" for the well-being of the Americans, Germans, Ukrainians, Chinese, Canadians, British, etc.? - "think" these people. Although, perhaps everything is much simpler, and I'm wrong.

[Tagan]

Quote: Barge_watchman

So far - no ... Simply, such a task was not set. And they are named out loud, many times.

Why, then, present fantasies as accomplished?
The main thing is that in fact at the moment, and not in the category "someday".

[Comrade Kim]

Quote: VicktorVR

Also, the entire composition of the faction will become restricted to travel abroad, and even the last villas on the Cote d'Azur and in Florida will be taken away from wives and children!

They don't pick up.
They made an exception for these ghouls and their offspring.
There is only one sane person there - Poklonskaya, who voted against the pension genocide.
The rest do not care about the bleeding Novorossiya. These non-humans are worse than Leberoids, they only quack when ordered from above.
Tomorrow they will be ordered to pass a law to hang every third person, they will wave without looking.
Libernya and Edresnya are the main enemies of the Russian people.