The former inspector general of the Bundeswehr expressed his disagreement with the resignation of the commander-in-chief of the German Navy because of the words about the Crimea and Ukraine

In Ukraine, they continue to put forward demands against Germany. Ukrainian Foreign Minister Dmitry Kuleba said he was disappointed with Berlin's refusal to transfer weapon for the needs of the Armed Forces. At the same time, the Ukrainian state official added that "such a refusal in Ukraine will be remembered for a long time."

At the same time, Kiev is calling for new restrictions in relation to the commander-in-chief of the German Navy, Kai-Achim Schönbach, who was dismissed from his post, declaring the virtual impossibility of returning Crimea to Ukraine.

Schönbach, we recall, was removed from his post a few days after his statement about the Crimea. At the same time, he wrote the resignation letter himself after numerous manifestations of criticism that he faced. And for the Ukrainian side, such a measure in relation to one of the leading representatives of the senior officers of Germany seemed insufficient. They want "more".

Against this background, there is an increasing number of authoritative persons in Germany who express their disagreement with the resignation of the Vice Admiral. Among them is the former Inspector General of the German Armed Forces Harald Kujat. According to him, he opposes the resignation of Schönbach and would have opposed it if he had been in his previous position - the position of Inspector General of the Bundeswehr.

Harald Kujat:

In fact, Kai-Achim Schönbach stated a fact. He said exactly the same thing that is constantly being said in the US, and the US is regarded as our closest ally.

According to the former inspector general of the Bundeswehr, both the United States and Germany are talking about the need to build a dialogue with Russia, about de-escalation in Ukraine, subject to the security of this country.

Retired General Kuyat believes that if Schoenbach was removed from his post, it turns out that today's German command is against the theses used by the Vice Admiral and at the same time against Washington's position on resolving the situation with Ukraine.

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[Zoldat_A]

Togo was sent to retire in peace. This one will talk in support - they will deprive pensions ...

[Egoza]

Quote: Zoldat_A

Togo was sent to retire in peace. This one will talk in support - they will deprive pensions ...

But how the man cleverly turned! poked his nose that Washington is actually saying the same thing. The main thing is that he landed the dill, although he is still fluttering.

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: Egoza

But how the man cleverly turned! poked his nose that Washington is actually saying the same thing. The main thing is that he landed the dill, although he is still fluttering.

"Democracy" will not forgive him, oh, it will not forgive ...

Especially dill. His cheeks almost burst anyway - he fired the entire commander-in-chief of the German Navy! And then - a pensioner of some kind ...

True, a pensioner with a good position in the past - the inspector general formally reports to the Minister of Defense, who can be anyone - even a gynecologist. In fact, reporting to the minister and the chancellor, it is he who exercises command of the troops. That is, they have the post of Minister of Defense, as it were, divided into two in terms of functionality - a representative part (minister) and a managerial part (inspector general).

Only after all, it is with us that THEY are not "former". And they - "died, so died." Retired - and do not strum your tongue, breathe calmly.
That's why - he will talk on his own head ... But it's a pity for the uncle - he hasn't lost his brains.

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: Zoldat_A

"Democracy" will not forgive him, oh, it will not forgive ...
Especially dill. His cheeks almost burst anyway - he fired the entire commander-in-chief of the German Navy! And then - a pensioner of some kind ..

Wonderful things are your Lord We read in the voice of Levitan -
As a result of the absence of hostilities between Russia and ukroNATO, the NATO bloc suffered its first losses, having lost the Commander-in-Chief of the German Navy, Admiral Schönbach.
Started right away with the grain What will happen if we go to war?

[Vladimir Mashkov]

The "happy" time has come when people are punished for calling white white, black black, and not vice versa!

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: Vladimir Mashkov

The "happy" time has come when people are punished for calling white white, black black, and not vice versa!

And it (this time) Vladimir did not go anywhere. What you described is called the "official policy" of the United States and, in general, of the entire collective West, which they have been practicing for the entire period of their existence. Therefore, they call complete chaos "democracy", intolerance - "tolerance", the genocide of peoples - "liberation", then lynch blacks, then force whites to kiss the shoes of blacks - "equality", and so on in everything ...

[Seryoga64]

Quote: Egoza

that Washington actually says the same thing

Now let them scratch their turnips

[SKVichyakow]

Quote: Seryoga64

Quote: Egoza

that Washington actually says the same thing

Now let them scratch their turnips

The Germans are trying to work as a weather vane, to please everyone, but they overdid it with Ukraine.

[Seryoga64]

Quote: SKVichyakow

The Germans are trying to work as a weather vane,

Sit on several chairs

but with Ukraine they overdid it.

[Blacksmith 55]

Never , nobody in Germany can deprive pensions .
They can be fired, punished in some other way, but why deprive pensions?
A person worked, paid into a pension fund, and suddenly his own money was taken away?
In principle, this cannot happen.

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: Blacksmith 55

A person worked, paid into a pension fund, and suddenly his own money was taken away?
In principle, this cannot happen.

I don’t know how things are with the military pension in Germany. We are paid by the Ministry of Defense.
"The person paid" - this is me paying to the Pension Fund, from which every year they steal, then a billion, then one and a half - as a tax on the maintenance of thieving officials. Therefore, my pension is my company, which I will leave to the children and my bank account. I don't really count on the Pension Fund.

And it is possible to deprive a military pensioner, even in Germany, with a special desire and rampant "democracy". The Ministry of Defense, for example, gave him a military pension in addition to his old-age pension. It will take her down. Formulation is not a problem. For example, "discrediting the armed forces with public statements." "Actions aimed at undermining foreign policy activities and defense capabilities committed in public space."
How are the wording?

If the Commander-in-Chief of the Navy is politely "asked", yielding to the screeches of the Ukrainian ambassador, then I am no longer surprised at anything in the "countries of developed democracy".

[Blacksmith 55]

I can not exactly say how the military.
But for civilians, everyone pays himself to the pension fund.
At the same time, the boss pays half, the worker himself pays half.
At the moment, deductions to the fund are about 18%. Of these, 9% is paid by the worker from his salary.
The contributions to the health insurance fund, the unemployed, and old-age care are also paid.
But the percentage is different.

[expert]

Regarding pensions in Germany, I can explain.
In the country, all employees earn their own Rente.
"Sovereign people", officials, military, etc. receive Pension. And no one can take away, deprive the recipient of a well-deserved pension.
I looked at the table of pensions for military personnel, the admiral is getting at least 8500 euros per month.

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: Fachmann

"Sovereign people", officials, military, etc. receive Pension. And no one can take away, deprive the recipient of a well-deserved pension.

First, about the fact that pensions will be deprived, I said with a fair amount of sarcasm. Apparently, without emoticons, people no longer understand what is written, since such a discussion "will deprive or not" has seriously flared up.
And secondly, everything is possible in a "democratic" society. Examples have been seen many times.

[expert]

I agree. There are no limits to the development of democracy.
But in this case, Comrade Admiral is under the protection of the law. And the law on pensions is difficult to change. Come on get your 8500

[Alex Justice]

Many of us do not receive pensions and will not receive them, because they are considered rich. Only the poor receive pensions. Fair!

[Igor Pa]

Yes, he didn’t pay anything, because in Germany, let it be known, civil servants don’t pay into the pension fund at all, from the word nothing (well, or vice versa). And he will not be deprived of his pension, here you are right.

[Lech from Android.]

Kiev twirls Berlin ... like a dog's tail.

[Fantazer911]

Conformist! These will yelp without a backbone for a long time, the Kuev authorities will break the dough faster and dump it over the cordon, but in my opinion, it seems to me that Fashington knows who has how much bobble has settled, in which case, the authorities dump it, and there their money is again in the states and settle down, and only after that they will find a reason to confiscate it.

[hagen]

Quote: Lech from Android.

Kiev twirls Berlin ... like a dog's tail.

It’s not Kiev that turns Berlin, but Washington that turns Kiev, Berlin, and Brussels, I think it’s clear on what and how ....

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Lech from Android.

Kiev twirls Berlin ... like a dog's tail.

So the owner gave the go-ahead to bite Fatherland.

[viktortarianik]

And Berlin deserved it

[Retvizan 8]

What have the Germans come to!
To press your Admiral because he called a spade a spade?
A shame !
Run at the feet of the inadequate Melnik and bow.

[Andrey Chizhevsky]

Tirpitz in a coffin is spinning like a propeller!

[Retvizan 8]

Looks like the Bismarcks were transferred to German soil.

[Andrey Chizhevsky]

Not only Bismarcks. But de Gaulles too ..

[Egoza]

Quote: Retvizan 8

What have the Germans come to!

That's just the simple Germans answered him sooooo correctly. I think after this Miller sat in the toilet for a long time!
“Megalomania is more connected with Ukraine. What do you want? German weapons?! Why should Germany give it to you? For Russia to sweep us away together with you!? We Germans don't want war, we don't want you to drag us into it!" writes a Schneewitchen 5.0 user.

“Who do you think you are? German megalomania will be to confront Russia again after the horrors of World War II. You can remember the role of the Ukrainian Nazi collaborators, the OUN and the worship of the great Nazis that continues to this day. Just unbelieveble!" - Publikumskonferenz is indignant.

“But you are willing to take our money. The more war, the better for businessmen. Shares of Lockheed Martin, which makes Javelin anti-tank missiles, have risen well over the past few weeks,” Vajo said.

“Ukraine today… Do I need to say anything else? I bow to an honest German officer who now has to pay for the truth,” Fischer writes, attaching a photo of Ukrainian neo-Nazis.
“But Ukraine is not even in NATO, and for such fools I would not lift a finger. Maybe Russia will soon increase in size... So what? asked RandBerliner.

“Remember to hold your hands then when the EU wants to give you money again. Just the one who bites the hand that feeds him suffers megalomania, ”Surim emphasized.

“Stop talking nonsense and trying to manipulate. Ukraine should not be in either NATO or the EU. It will only bring harm to both of them, ”readers summed up.



Source: https://rusvesna.su/news/1642938441

[APASUS]

Germany has become a hostage to the situation. Although it is not entirely clear who is in charge of the situation?

[Seryoga64]

Quote: APASUS

.Although it is not entirely clear who is in charge of the situation?

In turn. Now it is the turn for the Fashington Regional Committee
Although it seems they have already expressed their opinion on the phone

[DenZ]

The queue of the Washington regional committee did not pass. It’s just that sometimes, without a queue, vassals yapped something, but even then, to the extent of their place in the queue and significance.

[Seryoga64]

Quote: DenZ

It’s just that sometimes, without a queue, vassals yapped something, but even then in moderation

Now is the time to roll out your 5 kopecks
Although, I repeat, most likely the order was given by phone

[tihonmarine]

Quote: APASUS

Although it is not entirely clear who is in charge of the situation?

It is clear that they are not "pots", but "blowholes" for sure.

[aszzz888]

At the same time, the Ukrainian state official added that "such a refusal in Ukraine will be remembered for a long time."

a flea rules a dog?

According to him, he opposes the resignation of Schönbach and would have opposed her had she been in her previous position - Inspector General of the Bundeswehr.

then they would have thrown him out after Schönbach.

[NDR-791]

Quote: aszzz888

“Such a refusal in Ukraine will be remembered for a long time”

"Well, didunya, remember, if your teeth fall out, I won't chew on you" (c)

[aszzz888]

NDR-791 (Artyom)
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Quote: aszzz888
“Such a refusal in Ukraine will be remembered for a long time”

"Well, didunya, remember, if your teeth fall out, I won't chew on you" (c)

Although this is not my phrase, but nevertheless let them "remember for the rest of their lives."

[rotmistr60]

"Such a refusal in Ukraine will be remembered for a long time."

Rudeness and threats towards Germany are increasing every day. Germany keeps quiet despite the indignation of native Germans and even makes concessions to Kiev in the form of resignations.

In fact, Kai-Achim Schönbach stated a fact.

At least Harald Kujat is not in danger of resigning, so he can speak out boldly. A similar opinion is shared by many, but not everyone has the courage to say it out loud.

[tralflot1832]

In Germany, ordnung, the words of the exes do not mean anything. The population does not care much about it in the heat and only migrants bother them. What Ukraine? Is it on our street? No!? Then don't be interested!

[carpenter]

Quote: tralflot1832

.What kind of Ukraine? Is it on our street? No!? Is it in the neighboring federal state? Again, no?! Then don't be interested!

The Germans are more interested in what the weather will be like today, and in which supermarket there will be discounts. And where is Ukraine, then 70% think that this is Russia.

[Geofiz]

If it goes on like this, then the Germans are expected to have a split within the country, between politicians and the military, I think the vice admiral uttered the position of not only his opinion, but the opinion of many military men, how he should not be able to see how the German military breathes, we’ll wait and see what it’s all about this will lead, I think among the Germans the former admiral has many like-minded people ...

[NDR-791]

Quote: Geofiz

If it goes on like this, then the Germans will have a split within the country

They have worked it all out there for a long time, they do not forbid anyone to yell on the streets. And at the same time. At one end of the city the left rallies, at the other the right. The police only breeds so as not to collide.

[Seryoga64]

Quote: Geofiz

I think among the Germans the former admiral has many like-minded people ...

It looks like it. We should wait for the next military supporter Kai-Achim Schönbach

split within the country, between politicians and the military,

So the politicians unleash wars, and the military die

[Blacksmith 55]

The admiral is not the only one, many military men and politicians have already understood this, but they are silent.
It's like the saying: You see the guano lies, don't touch it, otherwise it will stink.
Well, the admiral touched.

[carpenter]

Quote: Blacksmith 55

The admiral is not the only one, many military men and politicians have already understood this, but they are silent.

So they will devour the same, not having reached retirement they will be kicked out.

[carpenter]

Quote: Geofiz

If it goes on like this, then the Germans are expected to have a split within the country, between politicians and the military, I think the vice admiral uttered the position of not only his opinion, but the opinion of many military men

Well, if the admiral was supported by the former inspector general of the Bundeswehr, then the military has such an opinion.

[Pandiurin]

Quote: Geofiz

If it goes on like this, then the Germans are expected to have a split within the country, between politicians and the military, I think the vice admiral uttered the position of not only his opinion, but the opinion of many military men, how he should not be able to see how the German military breathes, we’ll wait and see what it’s all about this will lead, I think among the Germans the former admiral has many like-minded people ...

They have the most important split between the Germans and the "German" media. The media and social networks rule, propaganda, deprivation of the word of objectionable politicians, if someone said something wrong, they immediately kneaded the person with dirt and resigned. Politicians, of course, have different opinions, but they are more informed than ordinary Germans. And probably most of the politicians agree with this admiral, but they don’t dare to blurt out something across, they will destroy it like a politician.

By the way, it also happened with the admiral, the German media just raised a wild whining. Then no one dared to stand up for him, except for this ex.

Moreover, it is unlikely that the Germans will hear his opinion, there is a big doubt that his words will be published by the major media.

[Mouse]

to the Ukrainian side, such a measure in relation to one of the leading representatives of the senior officers of Germany seemed insufficient. They want "more".

Shoot "big"?

[Egoza]

Quote: Mouse

Shoot "big"?

Yes, it would suit the donkey's coming out. Well, at least demote and deprive pensions. But in that case, the whole fleet would have stirred up there! IMHO

[Dikson]

What are the true Aryan surnames of the German military leaders .. it’s just dumbfounded ..

[Kesha1980]

Schönbach now has a path open in politics for bold realism. The industrialists would sponsor, and the townsfolk would vote. The demagogues and empty talkers of German politics are suffering financial losses for their country. Here are gas prices and unnecessary sanctions losses (trade restrictions).

[Serge-667]

Schönbach is now open to the road in politics for bold realism.

The road to the madhouse is open to him.
Running through the German streets and yelling that Crimea is Russian, you will not make any political career. The Germans do not care where this Crimea is and who is waving their claws there.

[Kesha1980]

Someone "ran around the German streets and yelled"? Did you start straight from India? Why say what didn't happen?
"Someone is waving their claws there" - in fact, the Germans are actively forced to "wave" once in a while. And they need weapons. This is not hotz for the Germans (strange)) and they want to earn money (strange)).

[rocket757]

The former inspector general of the Bundeswehr expressed his disagreement with the resignation of the commander-in-chief of the German Navy because of the words about the Crimea and Ukraine

. What's new we've seen! Nothing.
There, and everywhere, politicians are in charge (the rich rule) ... they don’t like what they would say across them, do! However, who loves it?

[Avior]

Schonbach, we recall, was removed from his post a few days after his statement about the Crimea. At the same time, he wrote the resignation letter himself after numerous manifestations of criticism that he faced.

On January 21, at a conference in India, among other things, he spoke about Crimea, and on January 22 he already wrote a letter of resignation. Reacted quickly.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Avior

Reacted quickly.

Rather, not the admiral, but the German government quickly reacted.

[Avior]

the author of the article sees it differently

was removed from his position a few days after his statement

[prior]

Germany must be given an ultimatum: either recognize Crimea as Russian, or let it return the GDR.
Taking Berlin is not the first time for us.

[neurostimulator]

Please don't write nonsense.

[prior]

Americans write, Europeans write.
And I'm worse?
We gave Germany the GDR. Why shouldn't she be reminded of this so that she would be less shy with the certification of SP-2?

[neurostimulator]

because this is nonsense, not a reminder ... you will still remember the French about Napoleon.

[prior]

Thank you for prompting.
After all, we never received reparations from the French for aggression.

[neurostimulator]

And now we have to ask for it here with us, to dig out some, from archives and storages, and to bury some - right alive. It's the same story with the Germans.

[tihonmarine]

At the same time, Kiev is calling for new restrictions in relation to the Commander-in-Chief of the German Navy, Kai-Achim Schönbach, who was dismissed from the port, who announced the actual impossibility of returning Crimea to Ukraine.

Surprisingly, did the yard terrier sense strength that he began to bark at the wolfhound.

[senima56]

How many times have I noticed that "all of a sudden" all the "former" or "ex" "suddenly see the light"! But while they are "acting", their rhetoric is the opposite!

[Paranoid50]

Quote: senima56

while they are "acting", their rhetoric is the opposite!

Why - the head of the Kriegsamarine said everything on the case, being in office. True, after his statement, he stayed in office for less than a day, but the attempt was counted.

[Simple]

Last year, I allowed myself to notice on the website that the Bandera ideology implanted in Ukraine will still come back to haunt everyone who warmed and nurtured this ideology.

[Cb master]

Bgg, Tobacco is in authority, don't you dare gaff him

[Yuri Siritsky_2]

It is a pity that Germany went on about the Hohliks.

[bogart047]

some liquid admiral and commander-in-chief of the Navy has gone today: to quit because of criticism ... Critics, Karl! It's good that he didn't have to fight...

[neurostimulator]

Never in my entire life did I think that I would be offended by the Germans and their army... You comrades, the Germans, fire the wrong people AT ALL.

[Lekz]

It looks like the Germans have transferred. This is not about the admiral, but all those who accepted his resignation.

[Timur_3]

Resignation is not bad.
It's worse to be in the cycle of this madhouse.

[RED_ICE]

They are all heroes to tell the truth after.....

[Ben latin]

...stupid people...

[RoTTor]

He is a REAL OFFICER and said, in a military way: directly and honestly.

Let this German admiral move to Russia for permanent residence.
He will certainly be given a worthy position in the Russian Navy,
as former Ukrainian admirals who joined the Russian service together with Crimea!

The boomerang of history hit: once a Ukrainian, pro-fascist puppets were nurtured and set on by the Abwehr and the SS, and now the German admiral, the commander of the Navy, is being removed on a denunciation ... whose gencosul in Hamburg was an outspoken admirer of Hitler, puts Germany in an interesting position