Ukrainian territorial defense was allowed to use hunting rifles

Since the Terrorist Defense Forces (STO) of Ukraine are still being formed, weapons they are not secured yet. Therefore, when performing combat missions, the Ukrainian territorial defense was allowed to use its own hunting rifles.

This is provided for by a resolution of the Cabinet of Ministers of Ukraine (CMU).

It refers to the Law “On the Fundamentals of National Resistance”, which entered into force on January 1, which provides for the involvement of SRT in the defense of the state. In this regard, the resolution provides detailed explanations of the procedure for the use of hunting weapons and ammunition by the fighters of the territorial defense.

It states that personal guns intended for hunting are allowed to be used by all citizens who are members of territorial defense units. At the same time, the acquisition, manufacture, storage, accounting of weapons and cartridges for them is carried out in accordance with the norms of the current Ukrainian legislation.

According to the document, during carrying or transportation, weapons can be in a charged state and without a special cover, case or case, but only if a citizen performs the tasks of the Territorial Defense Forces.

According to the Law of Ukraine "On the Foundations of National Resistance", from January 1, the STO was recognized as an independent branch of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. It is assumed that they will be finally formed by February 15th.

The Ukrainian drafters of this law say that they have taken as a basis the Swiss experience, when citizens who are registered with the military and can arrive at the assembly point with personal weapons are called up for training or exercises. At the same time, Ukraine could not give an exact answer to the question of what percentage of representatives of the territorial defense currently have a hunter's license and personal hunting weapons.

Comments

[kamarada]

Banderstan must be destroyed.

[den3080]

Quote: Kamarada

Banderstan must be destroyed.

We still need to allow the use of cutoffs.
Most of all, for some kind of freemen.

[bukhach]

For them, axes are everything, both weapons, and historical memory, and a symbol of the continuity of Banderlog generations.

[carpenter]

Quote: den3080

We still need to allow the use of cutoffs.
Most of all, for some kind of freemen.

Again, like 100 years ago - "Walk the field."

[Vladimir Mashkov]

...as well as axes, pitchforks and clubs. Ukraine, 21st century!

[kamarada]

Fear Bandera your place in hell. Your hour will come... And I will pray to God to hurry.

[Looking for]

dear. you don’t have to pray. but fight them by any means and methods.

[Anachoret]

It remains to legalize the bow and arrows, and the sling with spears))
And banderstan can not be stopped))

[paul3390]

Well - here I have, for example, from hunting SKS and Vepr 7.62x54 ... Let's also laugh about the sling and slingshot? Of course - you can’t stop the army like that, but you can mess up - and like civilian rifles you can .. Especially if military-style cartridges are given ..

[Barge_watchman]

Hunting 7,62x39 with "empty heads" are much worse ... and there are fewer ricochets ...
but about smooth, so "trench broom" - in urban battles, that's it.

[alexniko77]

and the weapon will withstand an army cartridge?

[Ingvar 72]

Quote: alexniko77

and the weapon will withstand an army cartridge?

Yes. As far as I know, the trunks are the same.

[paul3390]

Naturally. Especially SCS...

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: alexniko77

and the weapon will withstand an army cartridge?

Will survive. The only difference is the design of the bullet. Combat ones with a steel (tungsten) core go smoother, deform less and leave more wounded animals. the wound channel is smoother and often through. Hunting bullets with lead in a copper sheath or semi-sheathed (blunted expansive) are more prone to deformation, and therefore the wound is more difficult. But, if we consider the battle in urban areas, then the smoothbore is quite a killer, especially in terms of the caliber and weight of the bullet, some modifications of which go quite well up to hundreds of meters.

[Aag]

Quote: paul3390

Well - here I have, for example, from hunting SKS and Vepr 7.62x54 ... Let's also laugh about the sling and slingshot? Of course - you can’t stop the army like that, but you can mess up - and like civilian rifles you can .. Especially if military-style cartridges are given ..

The main thing - try not to harm .... Please! I really would not like to see you either in the opposite trenches, or, even more so (!), - on the other side of the barricades!

[paul3390]

The vast majority of the armed people are extremely law-abiding people and not prone to sudden movements. Firstly, our hobby is usually not cheap, we have something to lose. Secondly, unlike sofa hamsters, we have a good idea of ​​​​how a bullet works on a carcass. Wouldn't want to see it in animals. So that...

[Aag]

Quote: paul3390

The vast majority of the armed people are extremely law-abiding people and not prone to sudden movements. Firstly, our hobby is usually not cheap, we have something to lose. Secondly, unlike sofa hamsters, we have a good idea of ​​​​how a bullet works on a carcass. Wouldn't want to see it in animals. So that...

I'm afraid you're idealizing...
Most (of my acquaintances, from among those whom you apparently wrote about, are already starting .... to hand over hunting trunks - it's expensive, there is no time, health ...
In short, everything is according to plan!
But young, stubborn ...
Fans, true connoisseurs of weapons - a separate issue - there can also be enough "fools" ...

[neurostimulator]

If they turn off the gas completely - it will be so, everything will be legalized.

[neurostimulator]

There is no intrigue in your plot at all, right? )) However, I can not disagree with you.

[DymOk_v_dYmke]

They are preparing a full-fledged civil war.

[Andrey Zhdanov-Nedilko]

Donbass has been in full swing since 2014.

[DymOk_v_dYmke]

Quote: Andrey Zhdanov-Nedilko

Donbass has been in full swing since 2014.

They want to stir up the whole country.
Well, in muddy water...

[prior]

Where was the Soviet Republic of Ukraine, now Gulyai-Pole
from the western border to the east, from Polissya to the Kherson region.

[Uncle lee]

God forbid they throw a match and they will kill each other ... Makhnovshchina was an example of order!

[carpenter]

Quote from Uncle Lee

Makhnovshchina was an example of order!

Yes, and Bandera, perhaps abruptly Makhnovshchina will be.

[Ingvar 72]

Quote from Uncle Lee

and they will kill each other...

No. They very well created the image of the enemy. As well as us.

[Uncle lee]

Quote: Ingvar 72

Like us

The external enemy is us....I see. And they can also fight among themselves for power, money, influence, and just like that! The weapons are full!

[Ingvar 72]

Quote from Uncle Lee

And they can also fight among themselves for power, money, influence, and just like that! The weapons are full!

So yes, but there will be internal squabbles until our first soldier on their territory.

[Aag]

Quote: Uncle Lee

God forbid they throw a match and they will kill each other ... Makhnovshchina was an example of order!

Omekron?

[neurostimulator]

It has been there for a long time, too late to drink barjomi when the kidneys flew off.

[Vladimir 290]

That is, now they can legalize grandfather's sawn-off shotguns and other caches.
In the army, one Tajik fighter told me about something like that, that he had a pistol from his grandfather "grandfather bil pilikhoy chilavek - banbyt, but in your opinion dushman"

[Alex_You]

If an article is illustrated with a gun, this does not mean that it is about guns. It is quite legal to buy a MacMillan TAK-50, and if you remember the year 14 and the looted police guns, plus weapons from the east.

[NDR-791]

Quote: Alex_You

If an article is illustrated with a gun, this does not mean that it is about guns.

Who cares? The empty-headed pan-bearers simply do not realize that a warrior with a civilian hunting cartridge not taken prisoner. But they end very painfully, and sometimes very slowly.

[carpenter]

Quote: NDR-791

The empty-headed pan-bearers simply do not realize that a warrior with a civilian hunting cartridge is not taken prisoner.

In the Declaration of the UN General Assembly
"On the Principles of International Law Relating to Friendly Relations and Cooperation among States in Accordance with the Charter of the United Nations" 1970 emphasizes that
"every state has the duty to refrain from organizing or encouraging the organization of irregular forces or armed bands, including mercenaries, to invade the territory of another state."

[NDR-791]

Quote: carpenter

must refrain from organizing or encouraging the organization of irregular forces or armed bands

This is written for normal people. Yes, and here there is a loophole - "obliged to abstain." And if incontinence already? They all understand there that the army is not combat-ready in the bulk. All this blizzard about TVO is carte blanche for scumbags

[carpenter]

Quote: NDR-791

All this blizzard about TVO is carte blanche for scumbags

Yeah, they're just stupid. Well, in what country can men with hunting rifles be driven to war.

[Aag]

Quote: NDR-791

Quote: Alex_You

If an article is illustrated with a gun, this does not mean that it is about guns.

Who cares? The empty-headed pan-bearers simply do not realize that a warrior with a civilian hunting cartridge not taken prisoner. But they end very painfully, and sometimes very slowly.

I am afraid that not even a small part of those present do not quite understand what it is about ... It seems that the time has come to explain the obvious (once) truths ...

[Alex_You]

Quote: NDR-791

Quote: Alex_You

If an article is illustrated with a gun, this does not mean that it is about guns.

Who cares? The empty-headed pan-bearers simply do not realize that a warrior with a civilian hunting cartridge not taken prisoner. But they end very painfully, and sometimes very slowly.

This is all from personal experience, of course, right?

[Barberry25]

1) not everyone has a small fortune to buy an expensive gun, so the bulk of Turkish fakes,
2) still not very good against tanks

[Ingvar 72]

Quote: Barberry25

so the bulk of Turkish fakes,

Turkish guns are of pretty good quality today. Most are not inferior to ours.
On the second part, you are right.

[Barberry25]

against machine guns?

[Ingvar 72]

What is "against machine guns"? I mean that Turkish guns are no longer fakes, it's easy to check in any gun shop.
And they will go out of stealth, from an ambush and against machine guns. But this requires motivation. But with it there can be problems.
But in general there will be no war, from my point of view, all the tension today is a show.

[Barberry25]

well, yes .. shoot a couple of times from a shotgun and catch a burst from a turret machine gun in response, well, it's just the same) Not to mention the fact that all these dances with "partisanism" will very quickly give the opposite result

[Looking for]

Is there a "show" in the Donbass too?

[Ingvar 72]

Quote: Seeker

Is there a "show" in the Donbass too?

What do you think is going on in Donbass? In my opinion, the current status quo is sluggish. Yes, they shoot, yes there are victims, but this state has been there since 2014.
And by the word show, I mean all the fuss about a possible war between Russia and Ukraine.

[Alex_You]

The Mosin rifle costs UAH 12000, which is less than $500, that's one thing. Two of these legal weapons are expensive, for the same 500 bucks it is quite possible to purchase an AK-74, and zinc cartridges for the task. Three, many volunteers who have passed 14-15 years completely left home with "trophies" of various calibers.
There is no need to fight with tanks, but you can arrange partisanship.

[Barberry25]

1) right now 120 000 left and took away several echelons of weapons?
2) many were taken away for their dark deeds, and not in order to "defend Krajina"
3) you will have to fight with tanks, because after several attacks they will very quickly raise information and begin to arrange any resistance and a tank will arrive. In the Caucasus, the scheme has already been worked out

[Two]

Dig caches, banderlogs! You still have to hove and hove ...

[Siberian]

Let them use it, only on the advice of a bearded joke, let them cut down the fly)

[Vladimir 290]

there are a lot of ideas of tolerance now supported, so maybe they are more dexterous with a fly

[Bad_gr]

The Ukrainian drafters of this law say that they have taken as a basis the Swiss experience, when citizens who are registered with the military and can arrive at the assembly point with personal weapons are called up for training or exercises.

"...Switzerland maintains the current system whereby men are allowed to keep weapons at home during and after compulsory military service......" (https://www.bbc.com/russian/international/2011/ 02/110213_swiss_gun_control)
That is, during demobilization, a soldier of the Swiss Army takes his personal weapon home and therefore he has something to come to the assembly point if necessary. In Ukraine, as I understand it, weapons with which you can be called upon must be bought with your own money. The government's approach does not change - the solution of their problems at the expense of someone.

[YOUR]

Deviate from these principles, because it is not tolerant. Moving to Western values. Give up weapons.

[Xlor]

Switzerland retains the current system whereby
men are allowed to keep weapons at home

Ukraine is the second France. How is it in France about weapons?

[culinary]

Quote: Xlor

Switzerland retains the current system whereby
men are allowed to keep weapons at home

Ukraine is the second France. How is it in France about weapons?

Probably better than in England. I have to fly to Latvia to shoot. At least I take my soul there. And Saiga, and Mosberg and my favorite Glock 19 .. And many other "sweets"

[Barge_watchman]

You misunderstood.
While the question is being decided what to issue and where to store it,
temporarily allowed to use personal, already available.
In general, it is a common practice when a fighter wears an "alter", for example, it is split. This is not prohibited.

[HAM]

They let the genie out of the lamp ... how stupid ... "arrive at the assembly points with a personal weapon" - loaded, well, and then defuse it ... according to the circumstances and to the extent of sobriety.

[Azimuth]

Load up the horses guys. Old Man Makhno 2.0.

[Azimuth]

What game are they going to play there? Kombat mortal 404?
Level 1- Kholop (stick, knife)
Level 2-Popandopala (ruzhoo)
Level 3- Ataman (AKM)
Level 3 - Cossack (Jihadmobile)
Level 4- Yatsenyuk ( Deserter)

[NDR-791]

Level 5- President (Stash Manager)

[cat Rusich]

Quote: NDR-791

Level 5- President (Stash Manager)

Level last level - Nadezhda Savchenko (last grenade )

[YOUR]

It feels like there are no adequate ones left at all.

[carpenter]

Quote: YOUR

It feels like there are no adequate ones left at all.

Well, 20 years, that's for sure.

[Xlor]

Quote: Anchorite

It remains to legalize the bow and arrows, and the sling with spears))

You forgot to add the loincloths here...

[dimy44]

Well, now it will be easier to get moonshine from the population)

[Saladine]

The years go by and nothing changes

[saygon66]

- And who and how will check the documents of a person with a loaded weapon in his hands?
- Each such check - the risk of death ... and from both sides.
- And it's even surprising ... such trust in citizens!

[Barge_watchman]

And it’s even surprising ... such trust in citizens!

It's hard to believe, right?

[saygon66]

-Difficult!
- It remains to sympathize with the Ukrainian law enforcement officers - their work will become an order of magnitude more dangerous ...

[Barge_watchman]

Envy, right? especially after tightening the screws in connection with the Kazan shooting ...
And the cops, no one will particularly touch if they don’t bully. Especially greyhounds are already in the ground, the rest have grown wiser. And, among them, many veterans.

[saygon66]

- I rejoice! There is no need for me to carry or carry a loaded "barrel" on a daily basis ... although I live in the cordon ... Although there is such an opportunity.
- And what is your attitude towards your "cops"? From repeat offenders chtol? And, if the cops of citizens become afraid - why the hell are they needed? Citizens - they are different ... Or have you outlived such?
- On one side of the checkpoint "veterans" and on the other - "veterans". and the cops - from the "veterans" ... So they will find out who are the veterans, and who prevents whom from fulfilling their patriotic duty ...

[Barge_watchman]

And I'm happy for you...
Why - to their own? to all. "The cops are not Kents for us!" (C)
Uncle Styopa, he, you know, only in cartoons.
No, he didn't leave. I'm from the army. That's why.
You need to be afraid not of citizens, but of violations (by the cops) of the law. I now regularly build them when they try to "depict".
Yes, they survived. Some, and irrevocably. They tried to wave their trunks, to nightmare citizens. Have grown wiser.
Yes, there will be no such confrontation, hammer it.
Where there is a checkpoint with army (TRO), there will be no cops. Read less newspapers at dinner.

[saygon66]

Mmmm! Newspapers! I forgot the last time I held in my hands ... a darned Internet!

[Barge_watchman]

I here, about three years ago, bought a house on a distant farm.
Among other things, I found a package of old newspapers. didn't throw it away...

[Aag]

Quote: Barge_watchman

Envy, right? especially after tightening the screws in connection with the Kazan shooting ...
And the cops, no one will particularly touch if they don’t bully. Especially greyhounds are already in the ground, the rest have grown wiser. And, among them, many veterans.

It seems to me so - it’s not worth finding out your merits to the Fatherland, there will be a desire, identify yourself ...
"Cops", I think, if it is worth disturbing, then for completely different reasons! ...
And, excuse me, are you guarding the barge with WHAT? And, most importantly, for what? )))

[Barge_watchman]

my merits, the Fatherland has already appreciated. do not worry. Status, benefits, everything.
Burial will be free, and with fireworks. This is serious, I'm not kidding.
Cops, I don't disturb when they're on business, so I'll help. And a witness, and a video from the registrar, and I will not disdain power support.
But, to the point. They will bully not on business - they will lie down. Often I pass by the obelisk. with three portraits. Flowers, no. On merit.
And one more, they can shit on the grave, it was rare, the whole village breathed a sigh of relief. Estimate, I died under a cafe for two hours, no one came out ...

barge? you must be very young.
"the one who guards the barge is handsome. -
unearthly beauty .... "(c)
This is BG, if you don't remember the quote.

[vl903]

smart and perfectly reasonable.
brainwashed Russian children from the outskirts for 30 years. now they will give them weapons and they will kill the Russians from the mainland.
perfect scheme!
USA well done!
Gorby, Yeltsin and others are corrupt bastards!
sloppy result.

[hhurik]

Funny comments, mostly negative connotations. Have you already forgotten your own experience of the Dagestan militia in the second Chechen one? It's different, yeah

[Aag]

Quote: hhurik

Funny comments, mostly negative connotations. Have you already forgotten your own experience of the Dagestan militia in the second Chechen one? It's different, yeah

Sorry, do not allow the thought, with all due respect, that some were busy with no less important matters (albeit with immeasurably lower risks,).

[Rusticolus]

Well, what a good move. Now, anyone who could potentially be drafted or, moreover, has already been drafted into the territorial self-defense forces is officially a combatant and can be destroyed. Especially if it is seen on Russian territory. I wonder how now the cunning Zrobitchans will prove that they are not saboteurs, so that someone would not slap them on the spot.

[Looking for]

first shdepnut. and then let him prove it to St. Peter or anyone else.

[Borisych]

The APU will soon experience a big molt. In this case, they can grab someone else's. And against marauders, a hunting rifle by the way. Well, if a Nazi is caught, then it is possible from two barrels.

[Barge_watchman]

"Hunting weapons" were interpreted as two-barrels ..
Approximately 40% of registered trunks are rifled ...
But let it be...

[Curious Katya]

And the slingshots??? Have slingshots been allowed already? whatever?

[svp67]

Ukrainian territorial defense was allowed to use hunting rifles

And the symbol of this will be pan Kravchuk with a Nazi gun from Goering himself

[cat Rusich]

Quote: svp67

Ukrainian territorial defense was allowed to use hunting rifles

And the symbol of this will be pan Kravchuk with a Nazi gun from Goering himself

The same gun...

And L. Kravchuk also has a Colt ...

[svp67]

Quote: cat Rusich

And L. Kravchuk also has a Colt ...

I hope with a sawn fly?

[cat Rusich]

Quote: svp67

Quote: cat Rusich

And L. Kravchuk also has a Colt ...

I hope with a sawn fly?

No, the fly is not cut down ...

[svp67]

Quote: cat Rusich

No, the fly is not cut down ...

Well, as a "young Bandera member", he should know that he did not do it in vain ... in vain

[Basarev]

Before appealing to the Swiss experience, it is worth remembering that Chlamina is not Switzerland. In Switzerland, it is really easy to release a citizen with a weapon. There, life is rich and easy, which means that the machine will lie under the bed until the next training camp, so that after that it will again sink into oblivion for a long time. Yes, and there is no hazing and fellow countrymen in the Swiss army. This is what you need to do first, and not a cargo cult.

[Sancho_SP]

Guessed in the seventh year. It is much cheaper to mobilize citizens with personal weapons on personal vehicles;)

[Looking for]

the Ukrainian junta presents these "partisans" as part of the armed forces, hoping to extend the Geneva Accords to them.

[koramax81]

First guns, then their cars and first aid kits, and then uniforms. Good luck to the horses in this not an easy task.

[saygon66]

- So that's the whole point!
- Patriotically-minded citizens, for the good of the Fatherland, do not spare their property and life itself ... People of "one-time readiness" are "minutemans", with local flavor.
- Policemen, militias, paramilitares - all the same. According to the officially accepted theory - they arise where the central government is weak, or absent altogether ...

[koramax81]

I agree, but I meant that the money, as always in Ukraine, will be allocated, and they will cut it neatly

[saygon66]

- Is it only in Ukraine ... Our "mobists" do not move at all! Well, at least SMS messages were sent to all those liable for military service with a request to respond in order to have some idea of ​​​​the actual readiness of the population for an emergency ... And to Moscow, for sure, peppy reports are sent about their heroic work in defense of the Motherland ... but they receive a salary !

[Vissarion Golubov]

Yes, we got to the hunting rifles. How it was possible to blow up such an abyss of weapons is incomprehensible to the mind. Well, at least the nuclear weapons were taken out ...

[Nikolay Sayenko]

with a double-barreled shotgun, well, well ....