Estonia plans to transfer 122-mm towed howitzers to Ukraine

Estonia intends to continue to provide military assistance to Ukraine against the backdrop of the "Russian threat". Following the Javelin anti-tank systems, Tallinn announced plans to transfer 122-mm towed howitzers to Kiev. The German press writes about it.

Estonia plans to send howitzers to Ukraine, but there is one problem. The thing is that these artillery pieces were originally made in the GDR, which means that they cannot be transferred without the permission of Germany. In Tallinn, a corresponding request was made and sent to the German Ministry of Defense, where it is being studied. As stated in the press service of the German military department, the request must also be "coordinated" with Finland.

We are talking about Soviet D-30 howitzers of 122-mm caliber, produced in the German Democratic Republic, after the unification of Germany in the 90s sold to Finland, since the caliber did not fit NATO standards. The Finns, in turn, resold these howitzers to the Estonians, on whose balance sheet they are listed. In total, according to open data, Estonia is armed with 14 D-30 howitzers.

How many artillery installations the Estonians plan to transfer to Ukraine is unknown. However, the transmission may fail. If the United States, which approved the transfer of Estonian Javelin anti-tank systems to Kiev, themselves advocate the supply of weapons Kiev, Germany takes the exact opposite position, declaring the inadmissibility of arms supplies to Ukraine.

Estonian Defense Minister Kalle Laanet also agrees that Berlin is unlikely to allow the transfer of howitzers to Kiev. According to him, there will be no permission from Germany, and without the consent of Berlin, Estonia cannot supply weapons.

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[marchcat]

The cycle of weapons in nature. A country that does not produce weapons suddenly decided to help its "brothers in arms".

[carpenter]

Quote: marchcat

The cycle of weapons in nature. A country that does not produce weapons suddenly decided to help "brothers in arms"

The transfer was instructed by NATO. This is how Bandera is armed.

[rocket757]

What country? Transshipment warehouse ....

[alex neym_2]

So they make money on it, but in Ukraine they cut it in full swing - they bought junk, and paid as if it were new, just off the assembly line ...

[rocket757]

Germany takes the exact opposite position, declaring the inadmissibility of arms supplies to Ukraine.

. Yes, now that the Greens are in power, there may be problems, because they are consistent in this matter, they have never betrayed themselves.

[Doccor18]

... announced plans to transfer 122-mm towed howitzers to Kiev ...

And where did the Ukrainian owners put 18 artillery systems of all calibers that were inherited from the USSR?

[Alexander 3]

Rustled and burned.

[Doccor18]

Quote: Alexander 3

Rustled and burned.

It turns out that the Estonians turned out to be more zealous owners ...

[Astra55]

If only Ukraine would treat the entire Soviet legacy with all responsibility, but would not swear at Russia, then now Ukraine would not beg from Germany, but Germany from Ukraine.

[username1234]

Ukraine is losing 0.5% of the population per year, 3-4 times faster than Russia, and big-headed cadres have long been working through English to the west remotely for cash, if, in 48 hours, they will not be in the country. The most big-headed have long been dumped in Germany and the United States.

The infrastructure is not being replaced: Soviet bridges, ceilings, emergency situations are growing linearly, wear and tear on rolling stock, wear on gas networks, and Soviet housing stock.

Launch Nord Stream 2, don't sell coal, and in 10 years everything will be decided by itself.

It is better, on the contrary, to open Russia, give green cards to residents of developed countries, give them land if they are cramped in their home, pull all Russian-speaking specialists from Ukraine with start-up capital.

Russia should play on the western field - to develop freedom of speech, there in the west it has long been watered. correctness, high taxes on workers in favor of crazy people with 5 genders and people of color who do not want to work, an alternative free internet should be developed as opposed to leftist censorship in the west.

It is very stupid to fight, in the long run Russia benefits from warming, the climate will be like in Germany in 20 years, peace and talents are needed.

[Doccor18]

Quote: username1234

pull all Russian-speaking specialists from Ukraine with start-up capital.

They don’t really want to “pull” their own ...

Emigration statistics from Russia.
Today, according to the statistics of foreign migration services, the official data of Rosstat on the number of emigrants from Russia do not correspond to reality. This is due to the peculiarity of the calculation, which does not take into account citizens who did not deregister when leaving. European data are based on indicators of specific countries and exceed the migration figures of Rosstat by about 2 or even 4 times.

According to information published by Rosstat, in 2014 about 310,5 thousand people left Russia. And already in 2015, this figure increased by another 43 thousand / person. In total, for the period from 1989 to 2014, according to statistics, almost 4.5 million people left Russia.

In 2020, according to Rosstat, about 377 thousand people have already left the country...

[standan]

That's just not necessary to lie and escalate. Here are three links for you, check it out before you write garbage:
https://aftershock.news/?q=node/746843&page=2
https://aftershock.news/?q=node/746762
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oKKgIQdMiMw

[businessv]

Quote: username1234

It is very stupid to fight, in the long run Russia benefits from warming, the climate will be like in Germany in 20 years, peace and talents are needed.

Sensible post, I think, from a square. It's just that we don't want to fight, but our resources do not allow all our "partners" to sleep peacefully, so that they are healthy in brains, and not in bodies. So it turns out that they cannot sleep peacefully, and they do not allow us to live in peace. Dissonant situation though!

[username1234]

2 iPhones ($1400 each) weighing 200 grams cost almost the same as 1 ton of Russian aluminum ($3000), no one needs resources, it's all a penny.

[businessv]

Quote: username1234

no one needs resources, it's all a penny.

It's funny how you talk! And what, apart from aluminum, is there nothing in Russia? A kilogram of gold today costs $ 65000, we mine it in tons, you can count it yourself for crap phones. I will not list the rest, you will hardly understand.

[username1234]

A kilogram of gold is used to make electronics, tools and equipment worth tens of millions of dollars.

[businessv]

Quote: username1234

A kilogram of gold is used to make electronics, tools and equipment worth tens of millions of dollars.

I said you don't understand! Did you yourself understand what you dug up?

[username1234]

You don’t understand this - in any hole you can buy gold and then sell chips to the Papuans, you don’t need to capture anyone, the 21st century.

[businessv]

Quote: username1234

You don’t understand this - in any hole you can buy gold and then sell chips to the Papuans

Apparently, you do not understand either the word "Papuans" or the word "microcircuits". Microchips are unknown to the Papuans and are not needed for nothing, so I take my leave, Mr. Troll!

[SKVichyakow]

Indeed, why do they need them. Who needs Estonia itself, if they themselves are fleeing from there, and mattress covers are asked to protect them. "If you do not want to do anything for yourself, then who needs you, and who will do for you"? The most important phrase.

[ancestors from Don]

Where did they send the request? Tell them that the GDR is no longer there, and for all licensed weapons produced in the Warsaw Pact countries, requests for permission to produce and use are accepted in Russia as the legal successor of the USSR.

[vladimirvn]

The main thing is not the result, the main thing is the process. ,, Well, I couldn’t, I couldn’t,,.

[Palmyra]

Do they collect rubbish from all over the world? Just not on their territory? And let's give them Jewelins, let them fight for democracy.

[Mavrikiy]

Estonia plans to transfer 122-mm towed howitzers to Ukraine

Zrada! Do not accept without a vehicle (Mann or Tatra)! + fuel tank.

[Amateur]

14 howitzers are the strongest Euro-strategic weapon (according to Estonian concepts). The Estonian Defense Ministry probably calculated that this would be enough to capture Estonia itself in a couple of hours. (True, no one needs her, but this was not taken into account in the calculations of time).

[APASUS]

That Berlin is unlikely to allow the transfer of howitzers to Kiev agrees and Estonian Defense Minister Kalle Laanet. According to him, there will be no permission from Germany, and without the consent of Berlin, Estonia cannot supply weapons.

Estonia is of course a law-abiding country, but I think the delivery will still happen, even if the Germans are against it. The fact is that the Estonians are likely to enlist the support of their main American partner, and the Germans will not want to spoil relations with the United States.

[Mountain shooter]

Ukraine has problems with artillery. The barrels were worn out from the shelling of the LDNR, the rest of the stock were either sold or rusted. And to release their trunks, it does not work. There is also a problem with shells - the Czechs are already fussing ... girls with low social responsibility!

[Mountain shooter]

Oh, the "bloomers" came running! And they don’t even know what wear on the barrels of barrel artillery.
Even when firing from howitzers not with full charges. no more than 2000 shots!!! It's not much at all. 3 - 4 months of not even very intense fire ...

[zloybond]

Czechs are no strangers. They sent weapons to fascist Germany to destroy Soviet cities. With this, if only someone attacked Russia anyway. The main thing is that their weapons kill Russians. These are not brothers.

[Barberry25]

the more they hysteria, the more I begin to suspect that ours will make a move far from Ukraine

[sergo1914]

The Balts are actively freeing themselves from weapons systems. Do they know something?

[Konnick]

The Balts are actively freeing themselves from weapons systems. Do they know something?

They are freed from unnecessary weapons for modern warfare. The positions of towed artillery with modern methods of instrumental reconnaissance are destroyed once or twice by mobile self-propelled gun batteries or aircraft. This weapon is relevant for third world countries.

[businessv]

Estonia plans to transfer 122-mm towed howitzers to Ukraine

And how will they protect the Suwalki corridor ?!

[cat Rusich]

Quote: businessv

Estonia plans to transfer 122-mm towed howitzers to Ukraine

And how will they protect the Suwalki corridor ?!

"Suwalki Corridor" - the border of Poland and Lithuania.

[businessv]

Quote: cat Rusich

"Suwalki Corridor" - the border of Poland and Lithuania.

And why shouldn't he be protected? Or are you just not in the subject, what the tribalts always yell about? And they scream that the first thing Russia will do in the event of a Big Nixie is to seize the corridor to ensure the security of the Kaliningrad region.

[zloybond]

Well, here Estonia has shown its commitment to the Nazi-fascist pack. All this fascist essence wants these howitzers to rain down democratic shells from the Czech Republic on the heads of the Russian citizens of Donbass. Well, where is the ambassador of this Banderland??? he was already sent from Russia towards his native Estonia????

[svp67]

We are talking about Soviet howitzers D-30 caliber 122-mm, produced in the German Democratic Republic

Yes, the Germans did not produce these artillery systems. They were supplied to the NNA of the GDR from the USSR

after the reunification of Germany in the 90s sold to Finland, because the caliber did not fit NATO standards. The Finns, in turn, resold these howitzers to the Estonians, on whose balance sheet they are listed. In total, according to open data, Estonia is armed with 14 D-30 howitzers.

And the question is, what is the shot now of these howitzers, after all this? What condition are they in? Maybe it's easier to immediately hand over them to scrap metal?

[viktortarianik]

And the shells for these howitzers have already rusted.

[pomor23]

Why, okay, Ukrainians from all over Europe will collect scrap metal, and then in Africa they will exchange it for coal. Munky business, however! )))