General with a fad on the plates

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General with a fad on the plates
Photo: PTC "Gorynych"

I started reading early as a child and read a lot.

I read a lot not only as a child, but also in adolescence, and in my youth, and in adulthood, and even now I read a lot if I find something to read.



From the fact that I read a lot, I already at a fairly young age knew how to spell such words as “lisapet, calidor and labalatoria” correctly.

In general, I will say without false modesty - I still have not lost that knowledge and often use it in everyday life.

And now let me return to the realities of my last military service, to one of those episodes that made my personal service a little more fun.

I will tell you about a visit to the headquarters of our regiment by a general recently appointed to the post of chief of staff aviation Pacific fleet.

The general, as usual, was sent from the western regions of our country, since here, in the aviation of the Pacific Fleet, generals were born badly. Not that they were not born at all, but there were few of them, and they were not promoted anywhere, since those generals were capricious and irreverent, in general, somewhat wild by Moscow standards.

The forge of generals in naval aviation was the court division in Bykhov, where all the Moscow authorities flew for flights and recreation, and there, in the comfort of a dispensary, personnel issues were resolved. I should note that this is not only my personal opinion, but all this is already in the past.

So, the newly appointed Chief of Aviation Staff of the Pacific Fleet got acquainted with the new garrisons, started from Primorye, then flew to Kamchatka and was soon expected in our garrison.

Our command found out from those whom this general had already visited that the new chief of the aviation staff of the Pacific Fleet had his own personal fad - he would turn on the correct signs.

And the correct plate on the door in the army and navy is not a cat sneezing for you, this issue is very complex and regulated to the smallest detail. All these little things are indicated in the appendix to the Charter of the internal service, and now I will give you an example of how and what is written in this appendix.

“Plates are placed at a height of 170 cm from the floor to their lower edge. The inscription on the plates is applied without an inclination, in direct type, on a red background with bronze (yellow) paint. Plate sizes: width - 25 cm, height - 10 cm; the height of the numbers is up to 6 cm, the height of the letters of the main inscription is up to 3 cm, and the height of other inscriptions is up to 1 cm.


On the day of the general’s arrival, I, the captain, the navigator of the detachment, was at the forefront of the attack, I was in the outfit of “Regimental duty”.

Near the entrance, waiting for the general's arrival, the regiment commander, the regiment's chief of staff, and a number of smaller commanders crowded.

And so the general arrived at the regiment, accompanied by the division commander and the division chief of staff.

The regiment commander reported to the general that the regiment was engaged according to plan, and all this brethren went up to the second floor to the headquarters of the regiment.

At the end of the line of various commanders, I walked, as if I was responsible for all the mess that was happening today in the regiment.

I had not yet entered the headquarters when I heard the general shout: “Here! That's right! Well done!"

Squeezing through the doors of the headquarters, I saw the general, who was pointing at the plate on the door of the photo laboratory, and the commander of the regiment smiling broadly. And even I was a little proud of the correct plate at the headquarters of our regiment.

When the whole crowd of chiefs went into the office of the regiment commander, I went up to admire this correct plate and read in amazement - “photo lab».

Yes, that's exactly what a sailor who was taught to write in the correct type on the correct background wrote and who hastily reworked all the signs in the headquarters at night.

And here I want to remember my favorite book - "Long Shot" by A. Azolsky. It is very rightly noted - "... admirals have different eyes, a different field of view».

But this is me, I want to show my education ...
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  1. +25
    27 January 2022 18: 09
    need a photo of the plate)
    This is no surprise to anyone. On forums, even in swear words, they manage to make mistakes.
    1. +3
      27 January 2022 18: 20
      Quote: Nikolay1987
      even in swear words they manage to make mistakes.

      And not just one.
      1. +1
        28 January 2022 08: 16
        So that the whole general would disdain the inscriptions of the sailor ... yes, never mind (c)
    2. +6
      27 January 2022 21: 58
      Quote: Nikolay1987
      On forums, even in swear words, they manage to make mistakes.
      This is exactly what you need to forgive generously! After all, no one has seen these words with their own eyes, they only scribble according to their auditory perception, poor fellows! wink
      1. +1
        29 January 2022 14: 23
        Quote: businessv
        After all, no one has seen these words with their own eyes, only by auditory perception they scribble, poor fellows!

        Well, this is if you haven’t read modern literature. laughing
  2. +3
    27 January 2022 18: 14
    I wonder where exactly the author of the article served.
    1. +21
      27 January 2022 18: 21
      Quote: Dalmatia
      where exactly did the author of the article serve

      Pacific Fleet, garrison K. Ruchey
      1. +5
        27 January 2022 18: 25
        Quote: Bez 310

        Pacific Fleet, garrison K. Ruchey


        Thank you.
        1. +2
          27 January 2022 19: 45
          Mystery Girl.
        2. +1
          28 January 2022 16: 07
          Does this ship have anything to do with your nickname, or just a coincidence? smile

          In the Yugoslav Navy, it was called Dalmatia (Dalmacija), before that Niobe (German Niobe) was a German armored cruiser of the First World War, a ship of the Gazelle-class cruiser series.
          1. +1
            28 January 2022 21: 10
            Quote: Sea Cat
            Does this ship have anything to do with your nickname, or just a coincidence? smile

            In the Yugoslav Navy, it was called Dalmatia (Dalmacija), before that Niobe (German Niobe) was a German armored cruiser of the First World War, a ship of the Gazelle-class cruiser series.


            The ship has nothing to do with my nickname.
            In Croatia, one of the regions on the Adriatic Sea is called Dalmatia, hence my nickname.
            1. 0
              28 January 2022 21: 24
              Thank you, I understand. But the ship is beautiful. smile
      2. +2
        27 January 2022 22: 59
        I met the name of the stream, "kuev stream", it was written on the sign.
      3. 0
        28 January 2022 22: 34
        Michael, why is it always "TOF" ???
        Here, every time.
        Red Banner, all the same. Well, the ear cuts))
        1. +1
          30 January 2022 08: 10
          Yes you are right.
          It is correct to say KTOF - Red Banner Pacific Fleet.
    2. +1
      29 January 2022 23: 54
      Quote: Dalmatia
      I wonder where exactly the author of the article served.
      Of course, I could be wrong, but it seems to me that you and I have already figured out something similar, and precisely in relation to this author. I treat the author with respect, I wonder what feelings you have for him? wink smile
      1. +1
        30 January 2022 08: 28
        Quote: businessv
        Quote: Dalmatia
        I wonder where exactly the author of the article served.
        Of course, I could be wrong, but it seems to me that you and I have already figured out something similar, and precisely in relation to this author. I treat the author with respect, I wonder what feelings you have for him? wink smile


        You are mistaken, we have not discussed the author of the article before. The author came to my attention in connection with the release of this particular article. Below is my comment about it.

        When asked about my feelings for the author of the article, I will say that he has a good style, he expresses his thoughts clearly, understandably and in an accessible way.
        His writing style reminded me a bit of Edward Ovechkin's in Sharks of Steel, if that tells you anything.
        In view of the foregoing, my attitude towards the author is respectful.
        1. 0
          1 February 2022 23: 37
          Quote: Dalmatia
          His writing style reminded me a bit of Edward Ovechkin's in Sharks of Steel, if that tells you anything.

          This only tells me that your respect for the author is fully deserved only by the fact that he does not use profanity, unlike E. Ovechkin, to express the fullness of sensations. hi
          1. 0
            4 February 2022 19: 06
            Quote: businessv
            Quote: Dalmatia
            His writing style reminded me a bit of Edward Ovechkin's in Sharks of Steel, if that tells you anything.

            This only tells me that your respect for the author is fully deserved only by the fact that he does not use profanity, unlike E. Ovechkin, to express the fullness of sensations. hi


            E. Ovechkin's profanity does not bother me, because it is organic in the proposed circumstances. There are not many former officers who could so accurately convey the atmosphere on the nuclear submarine and the life of submariners at that difficult time.
            And you apparently saw only profanity in "Sharks of Steel" smile
            For me they are heroes, but for you they are swearers.
            1. 0
              4 February 2022 20: 59
              Quote: Dalmatia
              And you apparently saw only profanity in "Sharks of Steel"

              I believe that a work of art intended to be read by the younger generation should comply with the norms. I'm not a prude, if that's what you mean, but I understand the difference between the talent of a person who knows how to convey the atmosphere without a mat and a person who does otherwise. Read "They Fought for the Motherland" by Sholokhov. understand me better. Or do you not consider those people described by Sholokhov to be heroes?
            2. 0
              4 February 2022 23: 01
              Quote: Dalmatia
              For me they are heroes, but for you they are swearers.
              I was talking about the writer, and not about the people he described, so do not distort and try to manipulate please, I read Ovechkin with pleasure!
  3. -21
    27 January 2022 18: 16
    The duties of the duty officer for the regiment did not include escorting high officials and his retinue, from the word - at all.
    The Charter clearly outlines the duties of the duty officer. The author, of course, has a highly developed imagination and fantasy.
    1. +9
      27 January 2022 18: 34
      Quote: bober1982
      The duties of the duty officer for the regiment did not include escorting high officials and his retinue, from the word - at all.
      The Charter clearly outlines the duties of the duty officer. The author, of course, has a highly developed imagination and fantasy.


      The author does not claim that he personally accompanied the chief of staff. .
      Do you have to quip about imagination and fantasy?
      1. +1
        27 January 2022 18: 37
        Quote: Dalmatia
        The author does not claim that he personally accompanied the chief of staff.

        So after all, it is written in black and white, as a follow, and was attached to everyone, the question is - why?
        1. +4
          27 January 2022 18: 44
          Quote: bober1982
          Quote: Dalmatia
          The author does not claim that he personally accompanied the chief of staff.

          So after all, it is written in black and white, as a follow, and was attached to everyone, the question is - why?

          I carefully read the article twice, trying to understand exactly where the author of the article served. But I didn't have the same impression as you.
          It follows from the context of the article that the chief of staff was accompanied by others.

          Quote:
          “Near the entrance, waiting for the general’s arrival, the regiment commander, the regiment’s chief of staff, and a number of smaller commanders crowded.
          And so the general arrived at the regiment, accompanied by the division commander and the division chief of staff.

          And you started to sting at the officer.
          1. -2
            27 January 2022 18: 49
            Quote: Dalmatia
            I carefully read the article twice, trying to understand exactly where the author of the article served.

            You were carried away by the definition of the place of service of BEZa, so you did not read the article carefully.
            The author only here, on the site, has several dozen stories, and most of them are about Mongokhto.
            Why then determine the place of service of a respected author?
            1. +5
              27 January 2022 19: 04
              Quote: bober1982
              Quote: Dalmatia
              I carefully read the article twice, trying to understand exactly where the author of the article served.

              You were carried away by the definition of the place of service of BEZa, so you did not read the article carefully.
              The author only here, on the site, has several dozen stories, and most of them are about Mongokhto.
              Why then determine the place of service of a respected author?

              I have been reading the site since 2014, but I never paid attention to the authors of publications, except for one - Roman Skomorokhov, but even then, due to personal circumstances.
              In this case, my attention was drawn to the mention of the Pacific Fleet and Primorye.
              1. +1
                27 January 2022 20: 48
                The fact that you fell in love with Roman noticed, just don’t understand why.
                1. +1
                  28 January 2022 21: 02
                  Quote: Evil543
                  The fact that you fell in love with Roman noticed, just don’t understand why.


                  Aha-ha))) Well, what are you, what love)))
                  This refers to the events of 2014-2015 in the Donbass.
                  1. 0
                    28 January 2022 21: 52
                    A Romanov.
                    You disappear, then you appear.
                    1. +1
                      28 January 2022 21: 56
                      Quote: Evil543
                      A Romanov.
                      You disappear, then you appear.

                      Don't quite understand what you mean?
            2. +3
              27 January 2022 23: 07
              Quote: bober1982
              The author only here, on the site, has several dozen stories, and most of them are about Mongokhto.
              Why is it here to determine the place of service of a respected author
              I don’t understand, what do you care about articles if you don’t like them ?! I read articles with pleasure, about which I inform the author with words of gratitude! Instead of poliming with women, you would have sprinkled something for our common development, and we would have discussed it with Dalmatia with pleasure! wink hi
              1. +1
                2 February 2022 01: 33
                bober1982 (vladimir), Dalmatia (Dalmatia), Evil543
                Comrades, could you sort things out, likes / dislikes in the LAN? Don't pollute the air!
                1. 0
                  2 February 2022 15: 52
                  Quote: TANKISTONE
                  Comrades, could you sort things out, likes / dislikes in the LAN? Don't pollute the air!

                  You wrote to me, I am not the authors you mentioned, but: please forgive me, I did not imagine that someone in VO could have such a tender nervous organization, I will try not to hurt anymore! feel
          2. -2
            28 January 2022 07: 42
            Each branch of the military, of course, has its own rules and traditions. But meeting a general or an admiral in a crowd is cool. Especially when it comes to scheduled inspections. If the meeting is not in the assembly hall, then the general is met in the ranks. If necessary, he bypasses the system and gets acquainted with the command (personnel) staff.
            As our chief of staff used to say, discipline begins with a neat appearance. He could demote an overgrown sergeant to a rank step or even demote him to a private. It seems Marshal Novikov said that there is no order at all in aviation. soldier
        2. +4
          27 January 2022 22: 36
          The higher authorities in the person of the regiment commander or chief of staff ordered, that's all. It's at the end of the string. As a breather. For every fireman. While this shouldn't happen, it does happen.
    2. +12
      27 January 2022 18: 46
      The duties of the duty officer for the regiment did not include escorting high officials and his retinue, from the word - completely ..
      I agree with you - in my unit, he didn’t even leave the duty room, because the commander himself personally accompanied the big bosses after the report. Worse, at the headquarters of the GSVG, I relieved a small need in the urinal next to General Gareev, so he generally wandered around the headquarters of the group alone. In general, as military service experts say, not everything is so simple in cases of the arrival of big bosses.
      1. +5
        27 January 2022 19: 18
        at the headquarters of the GSVG, I relieved a small need in a urinal next to General Gareev

        Wow, what a memorable episode. I should have asked for his autograph at that moment.
        1. +1
          27 January 2022 19: 27
          At the same time, remove the specific gravity and acidity index
        2. +9
          27 January 2022 19: 37
          . Wow, what a memorable episode. I should have asked for his autograph at that moment.
          This is not in my rules, especially since this is not the highest boss with whom I personally saw. Well, judging by the proposal, you yourself probably helped such people shake off the last drop more than once, or served napkins with a bow ...
          1. +5
            27 January 2022 19: 39
            this is not the highest boss with whom I personally saw.

            At the urinal?
        3. +11
          27 January 2022 19: 48
          Wow, what a memorable episode. I should have asked for his autograph at that moment.
          Well, my son somehow saved the then Chief Emergency Minister Shoigu, when he, entangled in the old corridors of the technical school, asked him where the toilet was.
          1. +3
            27 January 2022 23: 04
            Quote: Aviator_
            Well, my son somehow saved the then Chief Emergency Minister Shoigu, when he, entangled in the ancient corridors

            Damn, mechanically somehow read: - tangled in a thong ...
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            2. +1
              28 January 2022 08: 05
              The aviation technical school is located in a building built in 1913, if you don’t know where this institution is located, you can do it yourself. The wife of Deputy Shoigu was then the director there, so the Ministry of Emergency Situations greatly helped the technical school. It was a long time ago.
        4. +2
          27 January 2022 20: 50
          At that I shot cigarettes at the Lieutenant General, so he presented a pack of Marlboro Light to celebrate. laughing
          1. +4
            27 January 2022 21: 51
            The most dangerous for the military were major generals. And then - in descending order.
            1. +3
              27 January 2022 22: 09
              laughing When you get unblocked they are all goodies. Grozny 96
            2. +3
              27 January 2022 22: 12
              This is a comprehensive complex of generals. After all, the major general remembers how the letekhi saluted him, the newly minted senior officer. And here is such an incident!
          2. +12
            28 January 2022 05: 54
            At that I shot cigarettes at the lieutenant general,

            Jerks. My wife shook hands with the chief marshal in my apartment. laughing Then she asked what kind of shoulder straps such a "big star with leaves."
            And I only saw him and all the accompanying brethren from a distance at the airfield leaving the Mi-8. It's just that this whole gang also examined the "life conditions of the officers", went into our DOS apartment (it was like a hostel for bachelors), and then they called mine, politely asked for the truth. tongue
            So it's not the funniest thing. The day before, the guys brought a tub of mash, they say, "Lech, they won't come to you, but they will definitely check us. So let you stay"
        5. +5
          28 January 2022 06: 51
          It's not funny at all. Somehow a marshal came to our unit (Division "Alphabet") with a check. So in all the toilets two soldiers were on duty around the clock, continuously doing wet cleaning. And the alignment of the curb before checking from the Main Headquarters of the Strategic Missile Forces. Before the helicopter landed from the chief of staff, he noticed from a height that the divisional shooting range was not fenced. Instantly, in a few hours, an area about one and a half kilometers per kilometer in size was fenced off in the evening. Poles were dug in and barbed wire was stretched. negative soldier soldier
          Our regiment duty officer always accompanied the higher authorities. The sergeant assistant to the duty officer for the regiment ran (flyed) ahead and put things in order.
      2. +1
        29 January 2022 14: 29
        Quote: 203-K
        203-K (203-K)
        27 January 2022 18: 46

        +12
        The duties of the duty officer for the regiment did not include escorting high officials and his retinue, from the word - completely ..
        I agree with you - in my unit, he didn’t even leave the duty room, because the commander himself personally accompanied the big bosses after the report. Worse, at the headquarters of the GSVG, I relieved a small need in the urinal next to General Gareev, so he generally wandered around the headquarters of the group alone. In general, as military service experts say, not everything is so simple in cases of the arrival of big bosses.

        And in my opinion, the author painted an absolutely adequate picture, which caused so many objections. Apparently, it was different in different parts.
    3. +14
      27 January 2022 18: 59
      Quote: bober1982
      The duties of the duty officer for the regiment did not include escorting high officials and his retinue, from the word - at all.

      Everything happened. The regimental duty officer was always at the regimental headquarters and, when visiting the commanding staff, "had the honor" to accompany the commander at the "leg", while acting as a whipping boy. Usually in such situations, far from ordinary officers were appointed on duty, from whom the demand was direct.
      1. +8
        27 January 2022 21: 15
        Quote: Gardener91
        Usually in such situations, far from ordinary officers were appointed on duty, from whom the demand was direct.

        Who cares who!
        1. +7
          27 January 2022 23: 06
          Quote: Kote pane Kohanka
          Who cares who!

          Or from which water is like water off a duck's back.
    4. +5
      27 January 2022 20: 40
      Maybe it’s enough to annoy already ... Well, baby, annoy, well, as much as possible
      1. +18
        27 January 2022 22: 17
        Quote: Andrey VOV
        Maybe enough to annoy

        Anecdote: The commander, in dark glasses, is walking along with the checking general. Ensign Ivanov to meet. General in shock! (usually when he appeared, everyone was hiding).
        Introduce yourself (demanded the general)! Ensign Ivanov! Comrade General, fasten the top button on your shirt! What do you allow yourself! (The general was indignant) The unit commander takes off his dark glasses (a huge bruise under his eye) and ingratiatingly says - fasten the button, Comrade General, Ensign Ivanov does not repeat twice! hi
    5. +4
      27 January 2022 22: 02
      Quote: bober1982
      The Charter clearly outlines the duties of the duty officer.
      Do not confuse with whose duties? Precisely the duty officer for the regiment, and not for the checkpoint, for example?
    6. +1
      28 January 2022 10: 09
      The duties of the duty officer for the regiment did not include escorting high officials and his retinue, from the word - at all.

      Firstly, I do not agree with you, it even enters.
      secondly, they are accompanied, as a rule, by officials in the direction. That is, when checking the location of the company, the commander of the company or battalion will be present, when checking the guard - the duty officer for the regiment, whatever one may say.
  4. Cat
    +23
    27 January 2022 18: 17
    I myself personally observed the process of creating a plaque for the headquarters by our Uzbek artist.
    The technology is as follows: glass of the appropriate size is taken and covered with red paint on the conditionally reverse side. Then markup and inscription of letters in a mirror inverted form. Then the contours of the letters are cut under the ruler with a needle inserted into the pencil or with a blade, and the "insides" of the letters are carefully removed. And then all this is painted over with bronze paint - it turns out very beautifully and solidly. But there was a nuance - the Uzbek artist instead of "SHTAB" wrote "SHTAP" and sincerely did not understand the reasons for the horse neighing of those around him belay
    1. +7
      27 January 2022 18: 55
      Now the process has become much easier. Color printer. laminate, but there are a lot of nuances, especially for the design of inspectors' offices. Although where can you screw up in the rank and surname: the rank with or without the guard, guards. or guards, all capital or proims, one with initials, the other only a surname. etc. etc.
    2. +2
      27 January 2022 22: 10
      Quote: Gato
      Then markup and inscription of letters in a mirror inverted form. Then the contours of the letters are cut under the ruler with a needle inserted into the pencil or with a blade, and the "insides" of the letters are carefully removed. And then all this is painted over with bronze paint - it turns out very beautifully and solidly.
      I wonder why the technology was turned upside down? First, letters are mirrored on the glass with bronze paint on a stencil, after they dry, the glass is painted over with any paint that is suitable in color.
      1. ANB
        +10
        27 January 2022 23: 16
        . First, letters are mirrored on the glass with bronze paint on a stencil, after they dry, the glass is painted over with any paint that is suitable in color.

        No, on the stencil, the borders of the letters will flow a little and the view is not the same. Classic - a thick layer of background paint, then cut out and paint over.
        1. 0
          29 January 2022 00: 00
          Quote: ANB
          No, on the stencil, the borders of the letters will flow a little and the view is not the same.
          This is when the paint is liquid, but bronze or aluminum was so good that how much varnish you pour, it will turn out so thick! wink A colleague correctly wrote below about a single copy - we made a lot of plates, part of them built three barracks buildings. smile I saw how the described option is done on ind. order, Sergey and you accurately described everything. wink
      2. Cat
        +5
        28 January 2022 00: 04
        I wonder why the technology was turned upside down? First, on the glass, with bronze paint, the letters are mirrored on a stencil

        This is not known to me. I suspect that this is faster or some technological difficulties with stencils. Try to cut out the letters A or O without gaps on the stencil.
        Maybe just because it was done in a single copy. But for branding and all sorts of inventory - only stencils.
        And the time of an artistically gifted soldier was used by 200% - starting from the design of the lenrooms and classrooms and ending with partaks and demobilization albums laughing
        1. 0
          28 January 2022 23: 56
          Quote: Gato
          Try to cut out the letters A or O without gaps on the stencil.
          This is true, but we painted over the jumpers smile . Once again you are convinced of the wisdom of the phrase: this is the army, baby! laughing
    3. +2
      28 January 2022 10: 03
      I personally observed the process of creating the plate
      I used the same technology in training (military unit 40710 Vladivostok, Okeanskaya station) in 1992, I made signs and other signs laughing Even the wife of our company commander (Captain Blinov. God forbid, healthy) made a sign for the store))))
    4. +4
      28 January 2022 10: 39
      Quote: Gato
      But there was a nuance - the Uzbek artist instead of "STAB" wrote "STAP" and sincerely did not understand the reasons for the horse neighing of those around him

      - Will we have a headline today or not?
      - It will, - said Drozd. - I have already drawn the letter "K".
      - Which "K"? What does "K" have to do with it?
      - But what, wasn’t it?
      "I'm going to die here now," said Roman. “The paper is called For Advanced Magic. Show me at least one letter "K" there!
      Drozd, staring at the wall, moved his lips.
      - How so? he said at last. Where did I get the letter "K" from? It was the letter "K"!
      © ABS. PNvS
    5. 0
      29 January 2022 03: 27
      Eeeee. Tama ische it was necessary to know the degree of drying of the paint. It was supposed to dry, but be soft. Otherwise, it would be easier to repaint everything.
  5. +4
    27 January 2022 18: 18
    knew how to spell such words as "lisapet, calidor and labalatoria" correctly.

    And I also liked the word, "arithmetic" laughing
    1. +8
      27 January 2022 19: 05
      Quote: Seryoga64
      ,"arithmetic"

      I've met "nonsense"))
      1. +1
        27 January 2022 19: 13
        Quote: Gardener91
        I've met "nonsense"))

        As a child, I spent my summer holidays with my grandmothers in the villages. That's where the Russian language is, especially among the older generation,laughing
        ; Grade 4 finished at a village school. Also informative laughing
  6. +12
    27 January 2022 18: 21
    Well. There are complete ignoramuses in Russian, but handy. For example, we have assemblers working at work. Everything was done according to the PUE, etc. But the inscriptions.. The box is depicted with an abbreviation.. "Asvish." Lighting, in a simple way.
    1. Cat
      +7
      27 January 2022 18: 38
      we have installers at work

      So the installers. And I saw maps designed by young lieutenants - abstractionists and symbolists would have strangled themselves with envy. And grammatical errors - something like that, the most frequent and favorite - instead of "colonel" write "ladle". Well, or "underfloor", which is also funny lol
      1. Aag
        +11
        27 January 2022 19: 50
        Quote: Gato
        we have installers at work

        So the installers. And I saw maps designed by young lieutenants - abstractionists and symbolists would have strangled themselves with envy. And grammatical errors - something like that, the most frequent and favorite - instead of "colonel" write "ladle". Well, or "underfloor", which is also funny lol

        Actually, it's not that funny. And I'm not even talking about the occasional illiteracy. I'm talking about the conditions under which cards, or the mentioned signs, posters, are often drawn up ... In emergency mode, sometimes by third parties. So the mentioned "ladles" are, most often, typos from sleepless nights, and not grammatical errors. hi
        1. Cat
          +2
          27 January 2022 21: 43
          typos from sleepless nights

          hi
          I completely agree, although sometimes malicious intent was not ruled out. Especially when senior bosses were in the habit of waving documents without looking and sending them further in this form. It turned out ugly.
          1. Aag
            +6
            27 January 2022 22: 24
            I also agree, about the evil intent.)))
            From cadet...
            It is one thing to draw posters instead of a forced march, quite another after; for dismissal, or - instead of ... So, the posters of the table drawn in ink with the addition of sugar looked more effective - the letters turned out glossy (although it's not always convenient to read - they glare). But the "customers" liked it ... But they weren't the only ones. Cockroaches! For a month, another poster stored in the back room of the department could be "cleaned" beyond recognition. Such is the delayed revenge.)))
            1. +1
              29 January 2022 03: 30
              These bastards even gnawed through the varnish in order to get to the tasty ones.
            2. +1
              29 January 2022 03: 31
              Since in all checks the plates were much more important than combat training, why all these forced marches, etc.?
    2. BAI
      +6
      27 January 2022 20: 39
      Not only Uzbeks from the rank and file differ.
      The official documents stated:
      "Commander-in-Chief" and "Traitor of the Board"
      Naturally, officers and officials of not the lowest rank prepared the documents.
  7. +6
    27 January 2022 18: 22
    The forge of generals in naval aviation was the court division in Bykhov, where all the Moscow authorities flew for flights and recreation, and there, in the comfort of a dispensary, personnel issues were resolved. I should note that this is not only my personal opinion, but all this is already in the past.

    Hello, Michael.
    Perhaps it is worth specifying the period.
    Potapov, Deineka, Rogov, Akporisov, Mordovalov - all went through 5 MRAD, through Vysokiy.
    1. -3
      27 January 2022 18: 26
      Quote: CHEREDA73
      Perhaps it is worth specifying the period.

      It is even more unclear what 5MRAD, Vysoky and the listed comrades are, it is not clear.
      1. +10
        27 January 2022 18: 29
        Fifth Naval Missile Aviation Division. Vysoky, aka Olenegorsk-8, now Olenya air base. The listed generals have two or three stars on their shoulder straps.
        1. +3
          27 January 2022 18: 31
          Clearly, in general terms, let's say so.
    2. +8
      27 January 2022 18: 35
      Quote: CHEREDA73
      it is worth specifying the period

      Maybe...
      But this is not the main thing for the story.
      1. +5
        27 January 2022 18: 42
        Quote: Bez 310
        Maybe...
        But this is not the main thing for the story.

        So after all, I’m talking about the same thing for which they began to put minuses, oh, what evil people.
        1. +3
          27 January 2022 18: 48
          here's a plus drinks
    3. +3
      27 January 2022 21: 16
      Deineka
      Relative?
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  8. +6
    27 January 2022 18: 34
    In the North, our lieutenants made fun (out of boredom) in this way: on guard, attire, it doesn’t matter, for days, you take the most uneducated chu .... oh, Uzbek, Tajik and set him a combat mission - to issue a Combat Leaflet. With pictures, text, as the party ordered. Then these "scriptures" in a folder with strings, and in the office. Whatever was there - and a sentry in a cloak and hat, and rhymes - Zadornov and Petrosyan would envy! They laughed, they were young, yes smile
    1. +4
      27 January 2022 19: 17
      I have a video where a young soldier watch is normal, he can’t read with hands and a dial, he grew up digitally.
      But alas, I can not put it on public display.
  9. +13
    27 January 2022 18: 41
    And our major general had another "fad". It seems that the first part of the film "DMB" was then filmed from him.
    A couple of times a week he went out to bypass the territory. And then everyone was hiding where EVERYONE! Because he stopped everyone he met and arranged a short interrogation - who, where and why? After I ran into him on the way from the barbershop (didn’t get my hair cut because of the long line) and the general was not too lazy to go there and make sure that this was the case, I realized that when I saw his cap from afar, I had to either turn back or hide. The apogee was the moment when the captain, starley, lieutenant and two cadets were hiding in the dormitory entrance. Moreover, the captain looked through the crack and informed the others when it was possible to jump out and continue on their way.
    1. +2
      28 January 2022 10: 42
      Quote: Leader of the Redskins
      And our major general had another "fad". It seems that the first part of the film "DMB" was then filmed from him.
      A couple of times a week he went out to bypass the territory. And then everyone was hiding where EVERYONE!

  10. +2
    27 January 2022 18: 41
    Bravo! With signs and inscriptions on them, you can laugh almost like at a concert by M. Zadornov
  11. -10
    27 January 2022 18: 43
    You're not funny at all, sir. He was your commander, and a little decency would have been nicer. I was also an officer, we also made tables, but I believe that the main task is to serve the country. This is how it should be in every army. If in Russian otherwise it's bad! am
  12. +9
    27 January 2022 19: 12
    288. The officer on duty meets and accompanies the location of the regiment:
    ... direct superiors are older than the regiment commander ...

    And I ended up a long time ago.
    1. Aag
      +4
      27 January 2022 20: 24
      Quote: Bez 310
      288. The officer on duty meets and accompanies the location of the regiment:
      ... direct superiors are older than the regiment commander ...

      And I ended up a long time ago.

      Greetings!
      I don’t remember the article numbers anymore. But the meaning, and from the UGiKS - something, literally, has been preserved. It is strange that no one from the servicemen mentioned this above ... hi
      1. +4
        27 January 2022 20: 28
        Quote: AAG
        It is strange that no one from the servicemen mentioned this above ...

        Most of the "servicemen" never knew the intricacies of the Charter, they studied it superficially, as well as much of what their official duties required. I don’t know how things are now, but I don’t think that anything has improved ...
        1. +1
          27 January 2022 20: 50
          .Most of the "servicemen" never knew the intricacies of the Charter, they studied it superficially,
          You also interpret it too freely, because if the commander reports to the arriving senior commander, then the duty officer only introduced himself, and did not accompany him. He was obliged to accompany only in cases where neither the commander nor his deputies were in the unit. I don’t remember cases when the operational duty officer was higher in status than the ordinary duty officer, but he was forbidden to leave the office. So it turned out that the captain-major on duty accompanied the arrived chief, and the OD lieutenant-colonel-colonel did not leave the office. These squiggles were also during the service on duty ....
          1. 0
            27 January 2022 21: 22
            Quote: 203-K
            and did not accompany

            There is no such exception, these are your conjectures.
            Quote: 203-K
            He was obliged to accompany only in cases where neither the commander nor his deputies were in the unit.

            And this is speculation.
            Quote: 203-K
            You also interpret it too loosely

            I was obliged by position to interpret the Charter, and I know how to do it correctly.
            Someday I'll tell you about the "squiggles" with the operational duty officer, if I don't forget.
            1. -1
              27 January 2022 22: 02
              There is no such exception, these are your conjectures.
              You poorly studied article 288, it just states that the duty officer at the meeting and report by the commander is only obliged to introduce himself, and not accompany. So this is your personal initiative or the requirement of your superiors to create the illusion of great reverence for the newcomer. It looks like you and the instruction to the duty officer were compiled on the basis of improvisations, or you forgot something in it if you don’t remember when the duty officer is obliged to accompany the arrived senior commander if there is no one from the command at the headquarters. Do not think that only you know how the duty officers should act - here, too, some have gone through this and even at a higher level.
              1. -1
                27 January 2022 22: 57
                Quote: 203-K
                only obliged to introduce himself, and not to accompany.

                No, not so.
                This paragraph talks about who is reporting. If the commander meets and reports, then the duty officer only introduces himself. (DOT)
                But the fact that the entire article 288 is canceled is out of the question.
        2. -2
          27 January 2022 20: 55
          Quote: Bez 310
          Most of the "servicemen" never knew the intricacies of the Charter, they studied it superficially,

          BEZ, this is in aviation, and did you study the charters?, well, well, tell me.
          Yes, such discipline did not exist, both in the school and in the regiments. The explanation for this was simple - knowledge of the Charters did not affect the quality of takeoff and landing.
          When visiting the regiment by higher commanders, the regiment duty officer did not follow on their heels, but sat quietly in the duty room - he did not care about their visits, like the generals, there was also no interest in him (them) accompanying him (them).
          Considering that such visits were regular, by representatives of the division and the Air Army, then the regiment on duty would stagger all day, just stagger, with the inspectors.
          1. +3
            27 January 2022 22: 12
            . When visiting the regiment by higher commanders, the regiment duty officer did not follow on their heels, but sat quietly in the duty room - he did not care about their visits, like the generals, there was also no interest in him (them) accompanying him (them).
            Quite right - this is exactly what happened in the units, especially if they had a complex structure and many objects for various purposes in different territories. I think the author simply did not encounter this, and judges by his regiment of a couple of hundred military personnel, and not by the MSP, where 2 thousand people are a bunch of buildings, equipment and a huge territory. There, just have time to clear up various introductory things, and not run around as an escort.
          2. +4
            27 January 2022 23: 24
            BEZ, this is in aviation, and did you study the charters?, well, well, tell me.
            Yes, such discipline did not exist, both in the school and in the regiments.

            Hello Vladimir. OVVAUL 1990-91. The teaching of the statute was, but not as a permanent discipline. Trained by the platoon leader. hi
          3. +5
            28 January 2022 06: 30
            Yes, such discipline did not exist, either in the school or in the regiments

            There were no general military regulations in schools? How did you go on guard duty, my dears. Yes, they got sick of these charters, from the UVS, disciplinary to the UGi KS. And they began to drum even at the KMB before taking the oath.
            1. -4
              28 January 2022 08: 08
              Quote: dauria
              There were no general military regulations in schools?

              I spoke about the academic disciplines, they were not taught, respectively, there were no tests, no exams, they were not included in the educational process. There is no need to distort my words.
              1. +4
                28 January 2022 08: 34
                , they were not taught, respectively, there were no tests, no exams, they were not included in the educational process.

                And you go to the military registration and enlistment office, in the secret part, your personal file of a reserve officer should be true. Ask to see. And look for a sewn "evaluation sheet" there. This is such a piece of paper with disciplines and grades. wink There you will see your assessment "according to the charters". At the same time, you can read the characteristics that your school bosses wrote by hand. It's strange that you don't know this.
                Although, as Mikhail correctly asked you, specify when, where and in the army of which country you served. wink
                1. -2
                  28 January 2022 08: 46
                  Quote: dauria
                  And look for a sewn "evaluation sheet" there. This is such a piece of paper with disciplines and grades. There you will see your assessment "according to the charters". At the same time, you can read the characteristics that your school bosses wrote by hand.

                  What grades can there be according to the statutes, as you put it, on the evaluation sheet, if they were not passed in the process of study?
                  Quote: dauria
                  which were handwritten by your school bosses

                  Flight characteristics, with this they graduated from the school.
                  1. +3
                    28 January 2022 10: 00
                    What grades can there be according to the statutes, as you put it, on the evaluation sheet, if they were not passed in the process of study?

                    At our military school there was such a subject: "Common Military Regulations". The platoon commander led, passed the course tests up to the 2nd inclusive, one assessment was "theory", the second assessment was "practice" - "compliance with the requirements of the charters in everyday activities".
                2. +3
                  28 January 2022 10: 55
                  .There you will see your assessment "according to the charters."
                  Exactly, it was like that and even tickets were pulled. Somewhere in the third year, if my memory serves me right.
        3. Aag
          +7
          27 January 2022 21: 37
          Quote: Bez 310
          Quote: AAG
          It is strange that no one from the servicemen mentioned this above ...

          Most of the "servicemen" never knew the intricacies of the Charter, they studied it superficially, as well as much of what their official duties required. I don’t know how things are now, but I don’t think that anything has improved ...

          I sadly agree...
          Otherwise, it would not have arisen, there would have been fewer situations when on the last night you have to change all the "tablets"))).
          There was an episode - he interceded, being a captain, for a DCH (regiment). After the evening verification, NSh sets the task of glazing all the documentation of those on duty in the companies (divisions). Simply put, cut the glass into A4 size, fix it over the documentation at the nightstands (three floors).
          ..He even indicated from which frames (on the boiler room) the glass was "obtained" ...
          Some glass cutters, ersatz were found in the barrels. The first sheet, no, not a pancake, was cut almost successfully. I was already starting to think about how Tom Sawyer, when painting the fence, - it was too many who wanted to help from among the DS (duty forces) drew (- well, rocket ensigns, officers, officers do not sleep well at night ..))). Suddenly, something went wrong - the glass was shattered, broken at all in the wrong place, and not in the way we would like. The replacement of cutters did not help (military ranks, length of service, nationality), cutting methods (with or without kerosene, diesel fuel, on both sides or one, with heating or ...)
          ... The task was completed by incredible glass losses)). The next morning, the orderlies were tormented by broken glass.
          NSh would have raged longer, but he simply didn’t have time for this before the test, and the task set was “As you wish, but let it be!” completed.
          Later, those in the know explained, he himself was convinced that there are very different glasses, although they are called window glasses. The ones that got it were either overheated or very "tired" in the boiler room ...
          1. +1
            29 January 2022 03: 39
            You have to know how to cut. Glass like a woman. You need to be confident, but not rude. I say this as a sign specialist. It all started with cutting... wink
            1. Aag
              +1
              29 January 2022 09: 00
              Quote: mmaxx
              You have to know how to cut. Glass like a woman. You need to be confident, but not rude. I say this as a sign specialist. It all started with cutting... wink

              I agree ...
              I won’t say that I didn’t know how at all then, and there were comrades who were more experienced in this regard, who cut out triangles without drilling with a normal tool, in good (!) Glass.
              Later they figured out - from the worn out glass (if it were normal))), five 250-liter aquariums would have come out. - they hunted after leaving the reserve. hi
    2. +2
      27 January 2022 22: 32
      Quote: Bez 310
      288. The officer on duty meets and accompanies the location of the regiment:


      And why put a shadow on the wattle fence. I understand your places were wild. The general appeared as the circus arrived and ran to see the elephant (general). Well it is clear.

      The duty officer accompanies the senior chief only in the absence of the commander, deputy commander and chief of staff.
      I have a case, dezh on the shelf. Colonel General Popkov (Head of the PU KSAVO) from Alma-Ata suddenly flops down on the parade ground (by helicopter) .. And straight to the headquarters. Everyone scatters in different directions (we are supposed to), there are no bosses, and they push me out. I meet. I introduce myself, I report - there are no incidents, the regiment's units are busy with BP in the training fields and improving the MT base of the BP, the commander is in the park.
      He tumbles into the barracks, of course I follow him, tries to open the linen room - it is locked. And he begins to tell me what a crime the locked lenroom is. They say a fighter wants to fall to the source of truth, but here in a brazen way, responsible persons interfere with seeing the highest meaning. And he spoke so penetratingly that a mean man's tear welled up in me.
      Well, then the commander appeared and I, having asked for leave, retired, and did not finish listening to the sermon to the end.
      Well, this is how the duty officer works. Well, you always have perversions.
      In 99% of us, the boss is met by the appropriate persons (as a rule, there are no surprises, everyone is warned in advance). Bread and salt, dancing on the table, but this is usually in the evening and a limited circle of people ..
      And before that, most give out Vaseline. And in normal units, everyone tries not to flicker in front of the bosses (even with such relatives as the commander or commander).
      Well, just in case.
      And the duty officer when the leader is surrounded by the commander and his deputies, it’s bad to do in this company.
      This is the law of the normal part.
      But you are special.
      1. +3
        27 January 2022 23: 08
        Quote: chenia
        I understand your places were wild. The general appeared as the circus arrived and ran to see the elephant (general).

        The headquarters of the division with the commander-general was located in our garrison, so we saw the generals and flew with them.
        Quote: chenia
        The duty officer accompanies the senior chief only in the absence of the commander, deputy commander and chief of staff.

        Do you disagree with the Charter?
        I can't help you here, demand changes to the Charter.
        Quote: chenia
        Well, this is how the duty officer works.

        Yes, act as you like, but in our regiment they tried to act as required by the Charter and as required by the chief of staff of the regiment.
        1. +1
          28 January 2022 10: 03
          Quote: Bez 310
          The headquarters of the division with the commander-general was located in our garrison

          This happens to us too, often. But these are native bosses, boring. But when the cinema was not brought to the garrison, and the people from the capitals are pouring down on the new general from the capitals (as in a theater), this is yours.
          I'm not saying that it doesn't happen (he served in three districts and different formations, everywhere is about the same). And that's just you. Happenes.

          Quote: Bez 310
          Do you disagree with the Charter?

          I no longer remember such subtleties, and most likely this is not so.
          Quote: Bez 310
          and in our regiment they tried to act as required by the Charter

          This is probably when the colonel's direct boss comes into the classroom (and he is always the boss for junior officers), and the captain doesn't want to tear his butt off his chair?
          Your colonels are relaxed.
          With us, this is possible when combat work is going on (even economic work in the park). where the warning (commander, division commander, commander is at the point) and the senior of the free ones makes a report.
          But you are gifted, you can.
          And this does not surprise me, in the army I have seen enough of not such freaks. Therefore, it happens.
          1. +2
            28 January 2022 10: 12
            Quote: chenia
            colonel direct boss

            Here I would argue with you about the "direct", but in that story I, in principle, talked about the fact that the command "comrade officers" in the squadron class is not given to the senior navigator of the division, colonel.
            But I won't...
      2. +3
        27 January 2022 23: 16
        .And the duty officer when the leader is surrounded by the commander and his deputies, it’s bad to do in this company.
        This is the law of the normal part.
        But you are special.
        You absolutely correctly described the situation, and that is exactly how you acted in all the normal parts of the armed forces. But apparently only in naval aviation they could not do without going out with a kondebober to receive the chiefs, so they created a show and portrayed general concern.
      3. +4
        27 January 2022 23: 19
        I remembered something the first time I went to the DC .. I just got the starley .. the first time I stepped in - of course for the weekend ... silence and calmness - the feeling of waiting for a change after lunch - no bosses are expected .. Sunday morning .. in the evening beer with girls .. and then out of nowhere - division commander .. decided to call in, drove past .. met - walked around - they pulled me cynically for prevention for a relaxed LS .. I was nervous then notably .. now of course I remember with a smile .. but I naturally went with him everywhere .. although there was simply no one else in the regiment from the authorities at that moment ...
  13. -7
    27 January 2022 19: 26
    Some nonsense is written.
    What is it for?
    1. -3
      28 January 2022 17: 54
      Quote: 75Sergey
      What is it for?

      Crap the Army, that's what.
      If you voice my pension from the Moscow Region, and the BEZa pension, then respected civilian readers will be taken aback. It’s better not to say.
      To what extent do you have to hate your Army (your own?) To entertain the public with such jokes.
      1. 0
        29 January 2022 04: 43
        Yes. Civilians will find out how their own army "protects" and cancel all these pensions laughing
        Only we know the price of this army. And it's sad.
  14. -3
    27 January 2022 19: 41
    The average height of young South Koreans aged 20-30 is 173cm

    The average height of a Japanese male is 170 cm

    Signs are placed at a height of 170 cm

    Am I understanding everything correctly?
    1. +6
      27 January 2022 19: 44
      Quote: English tarantass
      Am I understanding everything correctly?

      I don't even know what to say to you...
      Plates in the Russian Army, why are you talking about the Japanese and Koreans?
      Would you like to write something witty? In my opinion, you failed. Try again if you like.
      1. -2
        27 January 2022 22: 10
        Hmm, apparently service affects mental abilities worse than boxing.
        Potential adversary. Notorious for its short stature. The plaque is above the top of most of his fighters. People with short stature are usually joked about high-placed objects. Chew further?
        1. -2
          27 January 2022 22: 58
          Quote: English tarantass
          Chew further?

          If not hard ...
    2. +1
      27 January 2022 20: 41
      Signs are hung at eye level, not the top of the head.
      :))
    3. +1
      28 January 2022 12: 17
      The average height of a Japanese male is 170 cm

      and the average height of male pygmies is 143 cm. And what does the plates in the RF Armed Forces have to do with it? laughing
  15. -4
    27 January 2022 19: 42
    Quote: Undecim
    this is not the highest boss with whom I personally saw.

    At the urinal?

    No, on duty. Did you help all the bosses to shake off, or did it depend on their position?
  16. +2
    27 January 2022 19: 51
    Really! Even in a word of three letters, five letters are written. Gore them a mosquito!
  17. -1
    27 January 2022 20: 48
    I went up to admire this correct plate and read in amazement - "Photolaboratory".

    Well, there's nothing you can do about it, since childhood I used to say "stubaretka", my wife corrected me all the time.
  18. +1
    27 January 2022 20: 59
    Yes, it happens, I didn’t read it, I didn’t pay attention.
    And in fact, it turns out not very competent.
    Sorry General.
  19. 0
    27 January 2022 21: 35
    Guys, well, this is modern prose .......)))
    1. 0
      27 January 2022 21: 43
      Quote: Alien From
      Guys, well, this is modern prose .......)))

      With the study of the duties of a duty officer in the regiment.
      1. +1
        27 January 2022 21: 51
        The tale is a lie, but there is a hint in it)
  20. +6
    27 January 2022 21: 44
    1997, headquarters of the 5th Guards Division, Kyakhta. On the fire shield there is all the necessary fire fighting equipment, including two buckets painted with red paint. On each white stenciled inscription - BUCKET.
    1. +2
      28 January 2022 10: 03
      Nowadays:
      on each socket there is an inscription with a stencil "220V"
      1. +1
        29 January 2022 04: 46
        This is now a safety requirement. In theory, in all office buildings / premises, all sockets should be signed. I have signed.
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  22. +4
    28 January 2022 03: 55
    Don't be snobs citizens. Good story. Akin to Saltykov-Shchedrin about how one man fed two generals.
  23. +2
    28 January 2022 11: 47
    He He! There were no wonderful situations during the service. I remember they were waiting for the arrival of the commander of the 4th separate air defense army, or the deputy. Well, the Mi-8 helicopter arrived, the authorities met the regimental commander, we, the division commanders, clustered near the headquarters. was my friend and godfather. We are standing near the headquarters, then a messenger comes running, urgently arrive at the starting battery. Run not far, 50 meters, arrived quickly, introduced ourselves. we can’t hear because we are at the very end of the retinue. We approach the caponier of my godfather and then we hear the general’s growl: “Here are comrade officers !!! Learn !! Exemplary fire shield! Who is the commander? Yeah, where is the battalion commander? the general turns around to continue on his way to the launchers. I look at the commander of the first division, white on his face like death, the start battalion commander shakes slightly. he drew a fire shield with high quality, now it would be called 500D. It’s impossible to distinguish from five meters. The people who were in the subject of what was happening also barely held back tears. But it worked out. inventory. There was another funny story where the big boss suspected us of playing croquet, but more on that later.
    1. +2
      28 January 2022 13: 21
      Quote: O. Bender
      a story where the big boss suspected us of playing croquet

      To croquet?

      Tell me, please!
      1. +1
        28 January 2022 13: 23
        I will try
  24. +1
    28 January 2022 15: 56
    As always, they are engaged in garbage - signs, outfits, guards.