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"Modification of the destroyer Zumwalt": the US Navy presented the concept of a new generation warship with hypersonic missiles and lasers

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In the United States, the concept of the newest ship of the future DDG (X) is presented with hypersonic missiles and lasers, which will be ten times more powerful than existing laser weapons. The promising ship should become the largest in the last twenty years, and it will be intended for control weapons directed energy of a new generation. According to the USNI News resource, construction of the new ship may begin in 2028.


The main capabilities of the promising ship, which is already called a modification of the Zumwalt destroyer or "derivative of Zumwalt", in the US Navy include: increased missile potential, sensitive sensors, directed energy weapons, increased ship survivability and increased energy availability. These properties were listed by Deputy Program Manager Catherine Connelly at a meeting of the Association of the Surface fleet.

According to the Pentagon, the new ship will be able to serve the US Navy from 2028 to the 2060s. Its tasks will include containing new threats that may arise for America in the foreseeable future. The command of the fleet directly defines a promising ship as a platform for the implementation of bold technological ideas.

It is assumed that the traditional gas turbine power plant on the ship will be replaced by an integrated system similar to the Zumwalt class destroyers (this is where the term "derived from Zumwalt" originated). Such power plants generate enough energy to illuminate an entire small town. On the newest ship, the installations will have to power lasers capable of hitting enemy guided missiles.

The Navy plans to install a 32-cell vertical launch system Mk-41 on the ship, which can be replaced with a system with 12 larger cells. A ship is expected to be able to sail 50% longer than current ships. In addition, it will be designed for operations, including in the Arctic space, while the Arleigh Burke destroyers were intended for operations mainly in tropical seas. That is, the US Navy does not particularly hide that they are planning to build a new ship to confront the Russian fleet in the Arctic.

As for the design of the ship's hull, it will be updated, unlike the previous ships. According to the Navy, while the developers of the program are not tied to any particular design, but most likely, the bow of the ship will be swept and angular. Currently, the specialists involved are studying all possible options for the design of the ship's hull. There is also a version that again correlates it with the stealth destroyer Zumwalt.

The cost of implementing the concept will be at least $ 1 billion per ship's hull. Separately, you will have to pay for all the technological "stuffing", weapons, additional equipment. But the US Navy believes that these costs are justified against the background of the risks that the promising ship is designed to prevent. At the same time, the American command did not really answer the question of what about the Zumwalt-class destroyers, for which so far they have found a worthy place in the Navy, despite the enormous cost of implementing the program.
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  1. mitroha
    mitroha 13 January 2022 18: 34
    +24
    Hopefully it turns out to be the same wunderwolf as the Sumvolt. With the same future
    1. impostor
      impostor 13 January 2022 19: 05
      -4
      The prospects for the concept are not yet completely clear, but to be honest, much of the wunderwolf was later widely disseminated among weapons. This I mean that the eggheads make their own contribution, despite the fact that everything is determined in the end by the guys in quilted jackets and with Kalash.
      1. ioan-e
        ioan-e 14 January 2022 09: 23
        +3
        Quote: impostor
        The prospects for the concept are not yet completely clear, but to be honest, much of the wunderwolf was later widely disseminated among weapons. This I mean that the eggheads make their own contribution, despite the fact that everything is determined in the end by the guys in quilted jackets and with Kalash.

        And what exactly from the wunderwaffe has gained further distribution? Maybe Maus, IS-7, Rev.-279 or American TV-8? Maybe fascist "flying saucers" where they are in service? As our teacher at the department of combined arms and tactical and special training, Lieutenant Colonel Fedorenko, nicknamed Smoked, said - "The most beautiful and perfect thing in the world is a weapon, because it does not allow anything superfluous and unreliable!"
        1. impostor
          impostor 14 January 2022 09: 48
          0
          Me-262, say. Nothing is guessed in Horten Ho IX?
          1. ioan-e
            ioan-e 14 January 2022 09: 55
            +2
            Quote: impostor
            Nothing is guessed in Horten Ho IX?

            Well, if we argue according to this logic, then Da Vinci is the father of world tank building, and Karl Bryulov is the father of geophysical weapons, which, however, have not yet been invented!

            Quote: impostor
            Me-262, say.

            Me-262 is no wunderfaffe! He had certain weaknesses - takeoff and landing, using which the "allies" learned to shoot him down perfectly!
    2. Timon2155
      Timon2155 13 January 2022 20: 05
      +6
      Concept. It's too early to say anything. It's too early to brag. It may turn out that in 30 years it will be ready.
      1. Zoldat_A
        Zoldat_A 14 January 2022 01: 37
        +1
        Quote: Timon2155
        It may turn out that in 30 years it will be ready.

        If America does not change the vector of its foreign policy, aimed exclusively at the role of world hegemon and gendarme, if it continues to poke Russia in the side with a stick, then it may turn out that in 30 years this prodigy will not be ready. And nothing else will be ready. There will be nothing at all. Some cockroaches - they survive in frost -30 and are not afraid of radiation.
      2. bayard
        bayard 14 January 2022 14: 37
        +3
        Quote: Timon2155
        Concept. It's too early to say something. It's too early to boast.

        In fact, judging by the picture, nothing extravagant is visible in the ship - the size of a cruiser, a power plant with electric propulsion (which is implemented not only on the Zumwalt, but also on the Chinese destroyers 055) has its advantages, incl. the possibility of powering high-power lasers and other energy-intensive systems of the ship directly from the power plant, lower noise of the power plant (no gearbox), but at the same time a fair share of power is lost on double conversion.
        The architecture is classic, the placement of radar canvases is similar to the Burkes, the placement of cells with weapons is similar to the Ticonderogs, and combat lasers are already being installed as standard weapons on the last sub-series of Burks.
        No cleverly-wise "fashionable" stealth lines, electromagnetic guns and other crap.
        They are going to place on them GZUR, the dimensions of which will probably be much larger than the "Tomahawks", so that the cells of the launcher will certainly be different. In short, in general - an ordinary classic ship with specified performance characteristics. When the development of this project was announced, there was a categorical requirement to design ONLY a classic ship, to forget about "stealth" and other exotics.
        Since the coefficient of novelty will be relatively small, except for the weapons itself (the GZUR, the laser is 10 times more powerful than the existing one (apparently the one that is being put on the Burke now), there is every chance that the ship will work out ... But we still have to live to see that.
        And we would have given Akhura-Mazda "Super-Gorshkovs" to lay down and launch a series at two or three shipyards.
    3. krops777
      krops777 14 January 2022 04: 36
      +4
      Hopefully it turns out to be the same wunderwolf as the Sumvolt. With the same future


      The money was cut well on the iron, our amers do not hold a candle to sawing the dough.
  2. Thrifty
    Thrifty 13 January 2022 18: 42
    .
    In a pancake, du-cancer is getting richer with a thought !!! fool lol
  3. tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 13 January 2022 18: 43
    +8
    Our concept of the destroyer "Leader" looks cooler in the picture. wassat
    1. Apollo
      Apollo 13 January 2022 19: 16
      +3
      Who likes the pop, who is the priest, and who is the priest's daughter.
      1. tralflot1832
        tralflot1832 13 January 2022 19: 25
        0
        I belong to the latter. wassat
        1. Alex777
          Alex777 13 January 2022 19: 48
          +8
          The Navy plans to install a 32-cell vertical launch system Mk-41 on the ship, which can be replaced with a system with 12 larger cells.

          I don’t understand the author alone? I counted 64 cells only on the tank ... bully
          1. tralflot1832
            tralflot1832 13 January 2022 19: 52
            -5
            I only have 32 cells or 12. hi
            1. Alex777
              Alex777 13 January 2022 20: 37
              +6
              8x8, definitely! On the picture. wink
          2. Avior
            Avior 13 January 2022 20: 35
            +4
            me too. 8 to 8 are clearly visible.
            But in the presentation they wrote that 32. at the same time, the launcher between the add-ons is clearly visible
            1. tralflot1832
              tralflot1832 13 January 2022 20: 50
              +3
              We think Nakhimov will come out earlier.
              1. The comment was deleted.
              2. Alex777
                Alex777 13 January 2022 21: 23
                +2
                Somewhere Fort disappeared from this scheme. And he is.
                Morpheus is not here yet. Unfortunately, not before him.
                And UKKS on it is 3 times more than real. wink
                1. tralflot1832
                  tralflot1832 13 January 2022 21: 45
                  +3
                  You can look for another scheme, more real. Something here is really a bit too much.
                  1. Alex777
                    Alex777 13 January 2022 21: 47
                    +4
                    I found it, but our site does not accept the format.
                    However, it doesn't matter. There are no real blueprints anywhere.
                    The ship has already been banned from photographing ...
            2. Alex777
              Alex777 13 January 2022 20: 51
              +5
              I looked at this photo too. A minute ahead. wink
              The presentation is obviously wrong. Admirals at 32 VPU
              the destroyer will never sign. IMHO, of course.
              Something is visible between the add-ons. But it's not clear.
              I can assume that the blocks of 32 VPU. 2x32 on
              tank and 1x32 between superstructures. Then everything is clear. hi
              1. Avior
                Avior 13 January 2022 21: 15
                +3
                About Zamvolta, he only has a power plant, otherwise he is based on Arleigh Burke 3 series, then 32 + 64 is understandable.
                Probably, in the middle part they left room for cells of a larger size in depth. Logical move. It will be possible to supply powerful missile defense and anti-ship missiles or missile defense. It would be logical to stick 8 cells under the ECSM somewhere else.
                1. Alex777
                  Alex777 13 January 2022 21: 36
                  +1
                  The states have already tried to switch to large Mk-57 TLUs on Zamwolta.
                  But, apparently, that increase was not enough. So I went
                  we are talking about new VPUs with 12 cells, which replace the block of 32 Mk-41.
                  It turns out that there can be 2x12 large VPUs on the tank, and in those 32,
                  in the middle there will be air defense / missile defense missiles.
                  1. Avior
                    Avior 13 January 2022 22: 52
                    -1
                    this is if large cells are the same in height as MK-41, if higher, then it will not work.
                    It is possible that we are talking about putting 32 large ones instead of 12 in the bow, but in the middle part.
                    In general, the project is clearly more versatile and thoughtful than Zamvolt.
                    New technologies will appear - they will be implemented, but not - it will just be an improved Arleigh Burke.
                    1. Alex777
                      Alex777 14 January 2022 00: 26
                      0
                      Quote: Avior
                      this is if large cells are the same in height as MK-41, if higher, then it will not work.

                      There is space on the tank for missiles of any length.
                      And what prevents you from inserting a package of short Mk-41s into the place for long large cells? wink

                      Quote: Avior
                      It is possible that we are talking about putting 32 large ones instead of 12 in the bow, but in the middle part.

                      The engine room will not allow long rockets to be placed in the middle.
                      A combination of 12+32 is possible ahead. Quite. hi
              2. Cympak
                Cympak 14 January 2022 08: 15
                0
                32 VPU Mk-41 is 32x8, i.e. 256 cells. On the diagram 16x8 on the tank and, apparently, the same number between add-ons
                1. Alex777
                  Alex777 14 January 2022 09: 38
                  +1
                  Quote: Cympak
                  On the scheme 16x8 on the tank

                  In the picture, on the tank 8x8. hi
                  1. Cympak
                    Cympak 14 January 2022 10: 28
                    +1
                    In the picture, on the tank 8x8

                    Yes, I didn't see it, sorry. recourse
          3. Doccor18
            Doccor18 13 January 2022 20: 49
            +4
            Quote: Alex777
            I don’t understand the author alone? I counted 64 cells only on the tank ...

            You are not alone. I also counted the same. Yes, you can still see the second P.U. in the central part. So, there will be 128 cells? Not surprisingly, a worthy response to the 055 Chinese project is needed.
            hi
            1. Alex777
              Alex777 13 January 2022 21: 18
              +3
              Quote: Doccor18
              So, there will be 128 cells?

              IMHO 96. 3x32. Rockets are expensive these days.
              I found the placement of the radar canvases particularly interesting.
              Like Ticonderoga - 2 on the forecastle and 2 on the stern.
              1. Avior
                Avior 13 January 2022 22: 54
                +3
                they were raised higher - at Burke's bridge over the canvases, on the new one, on the contrary, they are higher than the bridge.
                1. Alex777
                  Alex777 14 January 2022 00: 23
                  0
                  States still learn and take the right one. hi
              2. Doccor18
                Doccor18 14 January 2022 07: 06
                +1
                Quote: Alex777
                I found the placement of the radar canvases particularly interesting.
                Like Ticonderoga - 2 on the forecastle and 2 on the stern.

                It seems like they are larger than on Berks, they are located higher. Spaced apart by add-ons, destroying them in one gulp at a time, even from one side, will become problematic.
                1. Alex777
                  Alex777 14 January 2022 09: 45
                  +1
                  Quote: Doccor18
                  It seems like they are larger than on Berks, they are located higher. Scattered across add-ons

                  Yes. The approach is smart. And the stem with a reverse slope was abandoned. hi
                  1. Doccor18
                    Doccor18 14 January 2022 10: 20
                    0
                    Quote: Alex777
                    ... And the stem with a reverse slope was abandoned.

                    And this is very interesting, why ...
                    Earlier they wrote that this form will provide the best seaworthiness: speed and smoothness, but with stability, everything is not so rosy. Apparently, since they decided to use the northern seas, known for serious unrest, they decided to go in the standard way.
                    hi
                    1. Alex777
                      Alex777 14 January 2022 10: 25
                      0
                      Earlier they wrote that this form will provide the best seaworthiness: speed and smoothness.

                      As far as I know, the reverse stem was designed to "cut" the wave and thus improve stealth.
                      And what really happened - the States know better.
                      In any case, the current forms bear little resemblance to Zamwalt. More like Leader. laughing
                      A month has not passed, as with a colleague bayard I discussed the spacing of antenna canvases in different cabins. And the States have shown it. hi
                      PS. I wonder what kind of rectangle is drawn in front of the fluff?
                      1. OgnennyiKotik
                        OgnennyiKotik 14 January 2022 10: 37
                        0
                        Below is the presentation from which the news. So I understand this is all very approximate. The USNI News itself expects up to 96 Mk-41s.
                        https://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/21177740/sna2022-captdavidhart-ddgx-program.pdf
                      2. Alex777
                        Alex777 14 January 2022 10: 42
                        0
                        Below is the presentation from which the news.

                        I have seen this text. And that a detailed study of the project is still ahead - also in the know. hi

                        The USNI News itself expects up to 96 Mk-41s.

                        Yes, I already wrote in the comments, which is less unlikely.
                        Therefore, most likely 3x32 = 96 will be. Or combinations with large cells.
                        And 3 lasers muddy.
            2. Yuri V.A
              Yuri V.A 14 January 2022 03: 33
              -1
              This is a non-binding picture. Based on the tasks and VI of the ship, it will have at least 96-128 launchers for Standards and 24-32 for heavy tactical missiles, an almost mirrored combination of cruisers of the Orlan project.
    2. SovAr238A
      SovAr238A 13 January 2022 19: 42
      .
      Quote: tralflot1832
      Our concept of the destroyer "Leader" looks cooler in the picture. wassat


      Y for a concept that has no operating history.
      They take it, permanently in the Barents Sea.
      The author is very stupid when talking about the tropics.
      And deliberately distorts reality.
      They have experience in operating almost fifty Berks, and three real Zumwalts.
      And we have a Leader's project that has never been, will not be implemented ...
      You are a techie, you perfectly understand the essence of exploitation.
      Why do you write something that is contrary to reason and logic?
      Just patamuchta?
      1. tralflot1832
        tralflot1832 13 January 2022 19: 56
        +6
        Burke is now in Barentsukh? So in winter it is normal with storms. Which crew fined, instead of the Mediterranean, sent for the Arctic surcharges?
        1. SovAr238A
          SovAr238A 13 January 2022 21: 19
          -7
          Quote: tralflot1832
          Burke is now in Barentsukh? So in winter it is normal with storms. Which crew fined, instead of the Mediterranean, sent for the Arctic surcharges?

          It is strange that you, a fisherman, do not know that the Ross is the most frequent warship in the Barents Sea.
          Not a single Russian ship, not a single Norwegian ship, is equal to Ross in terms of real combat service in the Barents Sea ...
          He is there, in the Barents Sea, spending more time than our entire surface combat fleet put together ...
          1. tralflot1832
            tralflot1832 13 January 2022 21: 29
            +5
            How much time the destroyer Ross spent in the Barents Sea in 2021, only the truth!
          2. Crimean partisan 1974
            Crimean partisan 1974 14 January 2022 01: 41
            +5
            the most frequent military combat ship in the Barents Sea.
            ...... you forgot to add that only as a coaster .... it is not an ice class in those latitudes
      2. Flooding
        Flooding 13 January 2022 19: 58
        -1
        Quote: SovAr238A
        And we have a Leader's project that has never been, will not be implemented

        why is it so unambiguous?
        as the 22350M will be launched into a small series, so the line of the conditional Leader will do
        I think 10 years need to wait
        1. tralflot1832
          tralflot1832 13 January 2022 20: 38
          +2
          So in the meantime, the commander of the Northern Fleet, the Norwegian commander, via video link, warned about military exercises in Norway of the NATO countries in February March. For which he received many human thanks.
        2. Doccor18
          Doccor18 13 January 2022 21: 05
          +3
          Quote: Flood
          as the 22350M will be launched into a small series, so the line of the conditional Leader will do
          I think 10 years need to wait

          What for? 22350 started - you need to do the maximum possible. Too small? Yes. Ahead 22350M. It certainly needs to be built in a large series (at least 16 pennants). Why spray on some "Leaders", in the wrong position ...
          1. Flooding
            Flooding 13 January 2022 22: 19
            +1
            Quote: Doccor18
            22350M ahead. It certainly needs to be built in a large series (at least 16 pennants)

            sorry, but we need to look at things more soberly
            at least bring the amount of 22350 to 12
            it's not even worth dreaming about 16 22350M
            8 will be good already
            in the Black Sea and in the Baltic they are by and large not needed. unless as a flagship one at a time.
            and by that time more modern developments will appear

            The leader is a return to the destroyers
            this is exactly what you need to dream about and you need to strive for this now
            Soviet missile cruisers will last another 15 years
            they need a replacement
            1. Doccor18
              Doccor18 14 January 2022 07: 14
              0
              Quote: Flood
              sorry, but we need to look at things more soberly
              ... you shouldn't even dream about 16 22350M ...

              Are you contradicting yourself. You shouldn't even dream about the normal 22350M series, but do you believe in the Leader program ..?
              When will we run out of these throwing, a fan of projects. After all, the Fleet did not appear in Russia yesterday. Is it really impossible to spend several years on a serious development of the main missile and artillery ship of the Fleet, and then build it in a large series, within 20-30 years. Weapon systems change, but the ship's hull will not undergo such revolutionary changes in such a short period of time...
              1. Flooding
                Flooding 14 January 2022 09: 47
                +1
                Quote: Doccor18
                Are you contradicting yourself. You shouldn't even dream about the normal 22350M series, but do you believe in the Leader program ..?

                I hope no
                competencies need to be restored
                even at the cost of building small series
                need a backlog for the future
                1. Doccor18
                  Doccor18 14 January 2022 10: 11
                  +2
                  Quote: Flood

                  need a backlog for the future

                  It is necessary.

                  Quote: Flood
                  ...
                  even at the cost of building small series

                  This path is dangerous...
        3. SovAr238A
          SovAr238A 13 January 2022 21: 15
          -7
          Quote: Flood
          Quote: SovAr238A
          And we have a Leader's project that has never been, will not be implemented

          why is it so unambiguous?
          as the 22350M will be launched into a small series, so the line of the conditional Leader will do
          I think 10 years need to wait

          How old is the Leader project?
          It will have to completely change the whole concept.
          In 10 years, there will be full electric propulsion all over the world...
          What did we work on? On nothing.
          In 10 years there will be a real energy weapon. What did we work on? On nothing.
          For 10 years we have not been able to restore the turbines lost with the loss of Ukraine.
          Do you think that a nuclear reactor will give you the same level of energy? Study the materiel...
          How much energy do modern Rolls-Royce turbines give, such as the 30 model, which is a hundred times cheaper ...
          And so in everything ...
          Learn to look at a problem from different angles.
          1. Flooding
            Flooding 13 January 2022 22: 23
            +4
            Quote: SovAr238A
            How old is the Leader project?
            It will have to completely change the whole concept.

            I wrote in enough Russian letters "conditional Leader"
            not like a project that no one knows anything about
            but as a promising destroyer
      3. poquello
        poquello 13 January 2022 20: 55
        -4
        Quote: SovAr238A
        a concept that has no operating history.

        all these wicks of ours will be screwed onto the Leader icebreaker much faster, and experience successful exploitation available (Lomonosov)
        1. SovAr238A
          SovAr238A 13 January 2022 21: 21
          .
          Quote: poquello
          Quote: SovAr238A
          a concept that has no operating history.

          all these wicks of ours will be screwed onto the Leader icebreaker much faster, and experience successful exploitation available (Lomonosov)

          Do you really not understand the difference between a warship and a Lomonosov bazhrk?

          Go back to the tree you climbed down from..
          1. poquello
            poquello 13 January 2022 21: 25
            +5
            Quote: SovAr238A
            Do you really not understand the difference between a warship and a Lomonosov bazhrk?

            well, well, if you please, get down and explain to me the difference in the operation of power plants
            1. SovAr238A
              SovAr238A 13 January 2022 22: 36
              -7
              Quote: poquello
              Quote: SovAr238A
              Do you really not understand the difference between a warship and a Lomonosov bazhrk?

              well, well, if you please, get down and explain to me the difference in the operation of power plants

              That is, you do not understand what is the supply of energy to the household network and the supply of energy to a battleship?
              1. poquello
                poquello 13 January 2022 22: 43
                +6
                Quote: SovAr238A
                That is, you do not understand what is the supply of energy to the household network and the supply of energy to a battleship?

                yes yes, I don't understand, please explain ...,
                I suppose in the military power receiver Watts go with asterisks
        2. tralflot1832
          tralflot1832 13 January 2022 21: 32
          +2
          The only thing left to do on the Leader is to attach lasers, at least fill up with electricity, he's an atomic electric ship.
          1. poquello
            poquello 13 January 2022 21: 34
            0
            Quote: tralflot1832
            The only thing left to do on the Leader is to attach lasers, at least fill up with electricity, he's an atomic electric ship.

            so I'm just about this, 180mW, if where energy guns and superlasers appear so on a similar
          2. SovAr238A
            SovAr238A 13 January 2022 22: 44
            -7
            Well, yes ..
            Two Ritm-300 reactors provide 110 MW. Electric power.
            You don't have to think that this is a lot
            This is quite a bit at a modern level.
            This compares to 3 Rolls-Royces.
            With a 20-fold difference in price.
            1. poquello
              poquello 14 January 2022 00: 54
              +4
              Quote: SovAr238A
              Two Ritm-300 reactors provide 110 MW. Electric power.

              ) and how rhythm400 for 120 index and 4 engines of 30MW each can give 110MW?
              4x37
              Quote: SovAr238A
              This is quite a bit at a modern level.
              This compares to 3 Rolls-Royces.

              )))))))) and from this place in more detail, at what stage ground Rollsroyce reactors?
        3. Avior
          Avior 13 January 2022 23: 57
          -3
          Lomonosov is a floating non-self-propelled power plant with a displacement of 22 thousand tons. In addition, part of the equipment is located on the shore. And this is only a power plant, without engines, converters, controls.
          How do you stick it on the destroyer?
          Icebreaker Leader - 70 thousand tons. The electric propulsion system for it has not yet been created. All this is very far from the destroyer.
          Icebreakers of the Arktika type - 33 thousand tons. On tests, the electric propulsion immediately failed - the engine burned out.
          Integrated systems have not yet been created at all.
          hi
          1. poquello
            poquello 14 January 2022 00: 47
            +4
            some kind of nonsense, except that Lomonosov is a non-self-propelled barge, is this news in dill?
            1. Avior
              Avior 14 January 2022 09: 13
              -2
              Brad is what you wrote. The experience of developing power plants for civil ships with a displacement of tens of thousands of tons, a significant part of which is occupied by the power plant, is not applicable to a warship, completely different conditions.
              Power integrated plant Zamvolta for example with a displacement of 15 thousand tons - 78 MW.
              Lomonosov with an electric power of 70 MW and a displacement of 22 thousand tons - this is not a power plant, this is one power plant, without engines - how are you going to squeeze this power plant onto a warship? Or will it be towed separately nearby, and powered by cable?
              Completely different types of installations with completely different tasks - is it really incomprehensible?
              1. poquello
                poquello 14 January 2022 19: 56
                0
                Quote: Avior
                Power integrated plant Zamvolta for example with a displacement of 15 thousand tons - 78 MW.

                87MW, only it is a gas turbine, what's the difference? not? she needs to be fed
                1. Avior
                  Avior 14 January 2022 21: 03
                  0
                  15 thousand tons is enough for installation and for fuel and weapons and other equipment of the ship. And in your example, 22 thousand tons is only one power plant, even without engines.
                  1. poquello
                    poquello 14 January 2022 21: 05
                    0
                    Quote: Avior
                    15 thousand tons is enough for installation and for fuel and weapons and other equipment of the ship.

                    How long does it take from gas station to gas station?
                    1. Avior
                      Avior 14 January 2022 21: 34
                      +1
                      The range is not fundamentally dependent on the type of transmission.
                      I see, you already understand why civilian projects cannot be simply applied on a warship
                      hi
                      1. poquello
                        poquello 14 January 2022 21: 41
                        0
                        Quote: poquello
                        How long does it take from gas station to gas station?

                        I don’t see an answer, but oh well, but how will he then shoot energetically?
                        Quote: Avior
                        civilian projects cannot just be applied on a warship

                        bad luck, something like rhythm200 is on the apl
    3. AAK
      AAK 13 January 2022 20: 35
      +8
      In terms of hull, this state-owned uberboat is 90 percent "Leader". Those interested can compare two pictures with models. The mattresses decided to go the Chinese way ... they cut down the masts of the "Leader" and here it is - "New Zumwalt"!
    4. Alexandr bogun
      Alexandr bogun 14 January 2022 01: 02
      .
      It may look cooler in the form of a small layout, it's just that if the fellow Americans say that their prodigy for a billion dollars will begin to be built in the 28th year, then this will be so, and the series will go to the fortuneteller after it. And for 30 years ours have not been able to give birth to at least some Destroyer, then corvettes, maximum frigates, repairs of Soviet Cruisers and that’s it. You can treat the Americans as you like, but they already have a school in full-fledged Aircraft carriers and full-fledged Destroyers. So while we continue to dream about the destroyer "Leader" in the 30th, they will finish building their "Zumwalt" at that time.
    5. Cympak
      Cympak 14 January 2022 10: 37
      -1
      The project of the destroyer "Leader" is classified, it was not made public. What you most likely mistakenly consider the "leader" is the project of the Krylov State Scientific Center

      By the way, it is not nuclear, but gas turbine.
  4. GAndr
    GAndr 13 January 2022 18: 45
    +5
    There is no hypersound yet, but the pictures are already being drawn, clowns;)
    1. Freemason Mason
      Freemason Mason 13 January 2022 18: 56
      .
      It's funny to hear from a person whose country every year presents a new model of an aircraft carrier laughing

      Zumwalt's experience can hardly be called successful, but many new technologies have been tested on it, which will be applied in subsequent projects - unlike Russia, the United States has no problems with the construction of large warships.
      1. Mavrikiy
        Mavrikiy 13 January 2022 19: 13
        +1
        Quote: Freemason
        It's funny to hear from a person whose country every year presents a new model of an aircraft carrier laughing

        Zumwalt's experience can hardly be called successful, but many new technologies have been tested on it, which will be applied in subsequent projects - unlike Russia, the United States has no problems with the construction of large warships.

        Hey, Mason, and this is good, God forbid, let them draw the perspectives of the AUG for another fifty years, and rivet the Poseidons.
        1. Hiroo Onoda
          Hiroo Onoda 13 January 2022 21: 05
          0
          Quote: Mavrikiy
          mason

          He is an Illuminati. From the club 300 reptilians.
          1. Mavrikiy
            Mavrikiy 14 January 2022 02: 34
            +2
            Quote: Hiroo Onoda
            Quote: Mavrikiy
            mason

            He is an Illuminati. From the club 300 reptilians.

            To blame. hi I didn’t see it from the Urals, it’s clearer from Japan, definitely. repeat
    2. Apollo
      Apollo 13 January 2022 19: 04
      .
      Probably already this year, the United States will have hypersound. Trials are underway. Only the speed characteristics of the tested missiles are several times higher than the speed / range indicators of Zircon.
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                1. Apollo
                  Apollo 13 January 2022 20: 45
                  .
                  Again, some caveats. Poyuzayte on the resource and ask a question to the author of the article.
                  1. poquello
                    poquello 13 January 2022 20: 50
                    +5
                    Quote: Apollo
                    Again, some caveats. Poyuzayte on the resource and ask a question to the author of the article.

                    what article? this fantasy with something familiar?
                    Quote: AAK
                    In terms of hull, this state-owned uberboat is 90 percent "Leader". Those interested can compare two pictures with models.
                    1. Apollo
                      Apollo 13 January 2022 20: 52
                      .
                      Here you go and find out. And the more persistently you will do it, the faster you will achieve success.
              2. Xnumx vis
                Xnumx vis 13 January 2022 20: 34
                +3
                And even more so on rude opponents. lol
                1. SovAr238A
                  SovAr238A 13 January 2022 21: 25
                  .
                  Quote: 30 vis
                  And even more so on rude opponents. lol

                  And what about the rude ones right away?
                  When stupid haters who do not understand anything appear in the discussion, they immediately fight, allegedly for rudeness ...
                  Your level is zero. And so you just don’t understand anything, you think that you were offended ...
                  Offended, illiterate...
        2. Galleon
          Galleon 13 January 2022 21: 38
          +2
          laughing good Yuri! I am forever "truly yours" !! good good drinks
      2. GAndr
        GAndr 13 January 2022 19: 35
        +6
        Really at times? And how many times is it? And nothing that the same zircon is already on alert?
        1. Apollo
          Apollo 13 January 2022 19: 55
          .
          Zircon has not yet been put into series and you are already on alert. Chatterbox...
          1. poquello
            poquello 13 January 2022 20: 28
            +7
            Quote: Apollo
            Zircon has not yet been put into series and you are already on alert. Chatterbox...

            and who is the chatterbox here? a person bringing real rockets or talking about rockets that do not fly?
            1. Apollo
              Apollo 13 January 2022 20: 36
              .
              And you go there too? The chatterbox is the one who claims that "the same zircon is already on alert", although it has not even been put into production.
              1. poquello
                poquello 13 January 2022 20: 39
                +8
                Quote: Apollo
                even though it hasn't even entered production.

                "in a series" you mean?
                1. Apollo
                  Apollo 13 January 2022 20: 42
                  .
                  That is exactly what is said about it. What confuses you?
                  1. poquello
                    poquello 13 January 2022 20: 44
                    +9
                    Quote: poquello
                    "in a series" you mean?

                    Quote: Apollo
                    That is exactly what is said about it. What confuses you?

                    these are somewhat different things "duty" and "series", especially considering that several ships are equipped with them along the way
                    1. Apollo
                      Apollo 13 January 2022 20: 53
                      -9
                      In order not to be known as a talker, prove
                      1. poquello
                        poquello 13 January 2022 21: 02
                        +5
                        Quote: Apollo
                        In order not to be known as a talker, prove

                        what do I have to prove to you? ))))))))))) duty is a word with the letter "d", a series with the letter "s", the number of letters is also different
                      2. Apollo
                        Apollo 13 January 2022 21: 31
                        -6
                        Well, don't be stupid at least now. You are not a schoolboy and you should understand that information about equipping the fleet with modern weapons, especially the latest, has a high secrecy label. Those. on your part, if this is true, it is criminal to broadcast classified information in public, and on my part you have to be a very dense dilettante in order to take what you said on faith.
                      3. poquello
                        poquello 13 January 2022 21: 38
                        +4
                        Quote: Apollo
                        equipping the fleet with modern weapons, especially the latest, are highly classified. Those. on your part, if this is true, it is criminal to broadcast classified information publicly,

                        Is the information open on launches, or do you think that they let it in and filmed it? no way
                2. SovAr238A
                  SovAr238A 13 January 2022 21: 26
                  -7
                  For production.
                  Even in pre-production.
                  1. poquello
                    poquello 13 January 2022 21: 29
                    +2
                    Quote: SovAr238A
                    For production.
                    Even in pre-production.

                    multiple launches, no matter how? )))))))))))))))))))
                    1. Hiroo Onoda
                      Hiroo Onoda 13 January 2022 22: 02
                      -5
                      Quote: poquello
                      launches, as it were

                      Test ones, right? For stationary purposes, no?
                      1. poquello
                        poquello 13 January 2022 22: 08
                        +5
                        Quote: Hiroo Onoda
                        Quote: poquello
                        launches, as it were

                        Test ones, right? For stationary purposes, no?

                        Even the name is familiar, Idiga Otseda? anyway
                        Quote: Hiroo Onoda
                        Test ones, right?

                        as if already checking the carriers and launch methods, test test strife
                      2. Hiroo Onoda
                        Hiroo Onoda 13 January 2022 22: 14
                        -7
                        Quote: poquello
                        test test strife

                        Discord may be discord. But no matter how a repetition of the situation with the Su-57 comes out))
                        So far from what REALLY is, and not "just about to appear" or something like that. There is a rocket that is being tested. In some parts of the trajectory, it reaches hypersound (like many other missiles before it, nominally supersonic), strikes stationary, motionless targets at a distance of up to 500 km. Naturally, it was not accepted for service. Everything. hi
                      3. poquello
                        poquello 13 January 2022 22: 38
                        +4
                        Th did you get into the issue of production? if the carriers are tested, the main tests of the rocket itself have been carried out, they produce and test no longer the concept
                        (and what do you think about her there, well, in general, violet)
                      4. Hiroo Onoda
                        Hiroo Onoda 14 January 2022 11: 13
                        0
                        Quote: poquello
                        if

                        Do you know what one word the king of Sparta, Leonidas, said in response to an offer to surrender from the many times superior army of the Persians?
                      5. poquello
                        poquello 14 January 2022 19: 37
                        -1
                        Quote: Hiroo Onoda
                        Quote: poquello
                        if

                        Do you know what one word the king of Sparta, Leonidas, said in response to an offer to surrender from the many times superior army of the Persians?

                        Leonid Ilyich said "Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh!" Looking at the Olympic rings
          2. El Chuvachino
            El Chuvachino 13 January 2022 20: 45
            +7
            You may be surprised, but the Zircons launched during testing are already in serial state, which means that they are currently being produced at least in small batches.

            And distribute your assessments less with the transition to personalities, this betrays the weakness of your position.
            1. Apollo
              Apollo 13 January 2022 21: 13
              .
              It's not proof, it's absurd.
            2. SovAr238A
              SovAr238A 13 January 2022 21: 28
              .
              Quote: El Chuvachino
              You may be surprised, but the Zircons launched during testing are already in serial state, which means that they are currently being produced at least in small batches.

              And distribute your assessments less with the transition to personalities, this betrays the weakness of your position.

              Will the state contract for serialization lead?
              For in Russia everything goes according to state contracts, which, according to Russian laws, are necessarily displayed in the system of state contracts.
              These are Russian laws.
              And even Sarmat also appears in government contracts

              So give the numbers of contracts for which mass / small-scale production is underway ...
              Since you started writing about it
              1. poquello
                poquello 13 January 2022 21: 32
                0
                Quote: SovAr238A
                These are Russian laws.

                and the amendments are not? ))))))))))))))))))))
      3. Mavrikiy
        Mavrikiy 14 January 2022 02: 41
        +2
        Quote: Apollo
        Only speed characteristics, test missiles are several times higher than the performance of Zircon by speed/range.
        It's not the same thing. Emotions overwhelmed, resentment for the owner? It happens. request
    3. Troll
      Troll 13 January 2022 19: 15
      +6
      No, not clowns, but people opening up new horizons. In any company, not just the US Navy, there are people (department) thinking about what will happen tomorrow and drawing at the same time some kind of sketches and estimating how much it might cost. After all, it is better to see once than hear a hundred times.
      There are such Kamaz and Sukhoi and Volkswagen with Boeing
      1. Vasyan1971
        Vasyan1971 13 January 2022 20: 03
        -5
        The cost of implementing the concept will be at least $ 1 billion per ship's hull. Separately, you will have to pay for all the technological "stuffing", weapons, additional equipment.

        Well, yes. Why not open horizons in such conditions? "Some" sketches not to pop up? KAMAZ with Sukhoi and Volkswagen with Boeing, embracing each other, cry with white envy ...
        1. Troll
          Troll 13 January 2022 20: 07
          +2
          For commercial organizations that live off sales, the budgets are not comparable to the budget of a state organization that takes money from the treasury.
          1. Vasyan1971
            Vasyan1971 13 January 2022 20: 19
            0
            Quote: Troll
            For commercial organizations that live off sales, the budgets are not comparable to the budget of a state organization that takes money from the treasury.

            That's why they cry...
            The money is crazy, what is there ... And I wonder if there is any responsibility for the result?
        2. SovAr238A
          SovAr238A 13 January 2022 21: 30
          -6
          Quote: Vasyan1971
          The cost of implementing the concept will be at least $ 1 billion per ship's hull. Separately, you will have to pay for all the technological "stuffing", weapons, additional equipment.

          Well, yes. Why not open horizons in such conditions? "Some" sketches not to pop up? KAMAZ with Sukhoi and Volkswagen with Boeing, embracing each other, cry with white envy ...

          Vasyan!
          The cost of a modern platform for an electric vehicle costs at least $ 10 billion in the development of a full cycle.
          That Hyundai / Kia, Renault, Toyota ...
          And you are talking nonsense about the Weeping Boeing ..
          1. Vasyan1971
            Vasyan1971 14 January 2022 18: 21
            -1
            Quote: SovAr238A
            The cost of a modern platform for an electric vehicle costs at least $ 10 billion in the development of a full cycle.
            That Hyundai / Kia, Renault, Toyota ...

            It may very well be, I will not argue. However, I think that the money spent on the car is planned to be returned, preferably with a healthy gesheft. How will the money spent on sketches be returned? The Zamwalt story is an example. Of course, counting other people's money in someone else's pocket is a thankless task, but damn it ...belay
            Although on the other hand there is such a joke:
            "Some say, twisting a finger at the temple and giggling disgustingly: spending SUCH DAYS on such nonsense is not a sign of intelligence.
            And they laugh at the rogues, who consider these pennies to be money. "
            Hmmm, in short ... recourse
  5. Thrifty
    Thrifty 13 January 2022 18: 48
    +11
    Its price will be at least fifty billion dollars. These Yankees are fantastic, they run from corner to corner with three irons, do not know what to do with them, no weapons, seaworthiness leaves much to be desired, terribly expensive to operate. With this ship, the Yankees will definitely go around the world! Why, so that this miracle could dive a couple of kilometers, take off from a short take-off run a couple of nautical miles in height, fly sideways or astern in flight at maximum speed, and also shrink when enemy rocket fire so as not to be accidentally hit ... wassat
    1. impostor
      impostor 13 January 2022 19: 01
      -3
      With this ship, the Yankees will definitely go around the world!

      As long as they have a printing press, they can afford it, because of the inertia and conservatism of the currency system, everyone is led on green paper, which is provided not even by sumvolts, but by tridents and minutemans.
    2. Galleon
      Galleon 13 January 2022 21: 40
      +4
      Thrifty, with all my sympathy for you ... - well, what are you talking about other people's money ?!
      Appreciate the boldness of the idea, the technical thought! Even for hell, that the icebreaking contours, the only ones possible for movement in the Arctic, do not agree with the keel bulb of the hull! the boys on the other side decided to finally create mobile missile defense platforms for our missiles - which all fly along this shortest path. It is for extra-atmospheric interception that the launcher between the superstructures of this destroyer is intended. Take a break from the political paradigm - appreciate the audacity of plans. This nation with its empire will go away, sink into oblivion, like many empires, with or without our participation, but this nation knows how to build and dream. Let's salute her in this and check our sights.
  6. impostor
    impostor 13 January 2022 18: 50
    0
    In other words, will YASEU be on board for the railgun?
  7. Xlor
    Xlor 13 January 2022 18: 54
    -3
    Nice ship. And Ukraine keeps the defenses on rubber boats ...
    1. Mavrikiy
      Mavrikiy 13 January 2022 19: 10
      +4
      Quote: Xlor
      Nice ship. And Ukraine keeps the defenses on rubber boats ...

      I think that soon the USA will throw a couple of Zumwalts under the fence. repeat
      1. Xnumx vis
        Xnumx vis 13 January 2022 19: 32
        +1
        Quote: Mavrikiy
        Quote: Xlor
        Nice ship. And Ukraine keeps the defenses on rubber boats ...

        I think that soon the USA will throw a couple of Zumwalts under the fence. repeat

        They have cruiser 2 ukraine "shabby and rusty under their fence, and you are blowing Zumwalt under their breath. And that they will use some of them for metal, some will be sold to China. North Korea, Pakistan ..."
  8. Sands Careers General
    Sands Careers General 13 January 2022 18: 56
    -1
    Concept of a new cut and rollback))

    People live, it's already enviable how billions are sawing wink
  9. kventinasd
    kventinasd 13 January 2022 19: 01
    -4
    At the same time, the American command did not really answer the question of what about the Zumwalt class destroyers, for which so far they have found a worthy place in the Navy

    Cho, did the irons float badly or did you discover new laws of hydrodynamics?
  10. Saladine
    Saladine 13 January 2022 19: 02
    +9
    What is there to steam? Everything has already been invented. The Pentagon only has to cut the budget ...
    1. Mavrikiy
      Mavrikiy 14 January 2022 02: 55
      0
      Quote: Saladine
      What is there to steam? Everything has already been invented. The Pentagon only has to cut the budget ...

      belay Reminds me of the cardboard dance of the nugget boy Vasyl, with whom Poroshenko rushed about 5 years ago. repeat .
  11. Stepan S
    Stepan S 13 January 2022 19: 04
    +5
    but, most likely, the bow of the ship will be arrow-shaped and angular.

    Well, where is he with such contours and a bulb in the Arctic zone?
    1. tralflot1832
      tralflot1832 13 January 2022 19: 28
      +1
      So they will piss with boiling water in the Arctic zone under the bulb, like clockwork. wassat
    2. tralflot1832
      tralflot1832 13 January 2022 20: 05
      +1
      Sorry, you are behind the times, this is not a bulb! This is a boiler! drinks
      1. poquello
        poquello 13 January 2022 20: 32
        +2
        Quote: tralflot1832
        Sorry, you are behind the times, this is not a bulb! This is a boiler! drinks

        energy weapon - kipessalnik
  12. Barberry25
    Barberry25 13 January 2022 19: 05
    +4
    Separately, you will have to pay for all the technological "stuffing", weapons, additional equipment.
    those. the price will be somewhere in 3 billion apiece
    1. Xnumx vis
      Xnumx vis 13 January 2022 19: 34
      0
      Not ! There are special rockets! Vzhzhzh ------ !!! Five ! Five or seven billion.
  13. Palestinian
    Palestinian 13 January 2022 19: 06
    0
    disassembled ... assembled it turned out to be a tractor .... you need a file for boobies !!!!))))))
  14. Mavrikiy
    Mavrikiy 13 January 2022 19: 08
    0
    "Modification of the destroyer Zumwalt": the US Navy presented the concept of a new generation warship with hypersonic missiles and lasers
    Get out projects, zrada! Zumwalt! Zumwalt! And so about 30 pieces would ... repeat
    Eh, hemp experts on the VO, as they proved that he had remarkable seaworthiness. fool
  15. yuriy55
    yuriy55 13 January 2022 19: 11
    +4
    construction of the new ship may begin in 2028.

    There is little to do: hypersonic missiles and lasers ...
  16. spirit
    spirit 13 January 2022 19: 12
    -2
    Well, in principle, if all these listed technologies work for 5 years on "irons", and if they really become more or less workable from raw, then why not? I doubt that the Congress and the military will take such a risk of launching into a large series without having worked out the technology.
    1. kot423
      kot423 13 January 2022 19: 29
      0
      Quote: spirit
      Well, in principle, if all these listed technologies work for 5 years on "irons"

      Do you yourself believe that? They went to the iron for 9th year, as they lowered it, so what? Have you worked out? And you swung at 5 ...
      1. spirit
        spirit 13 January 2022 19: 45
        +2
        An unsuccessful attempt is also a result, albeit very expensive, so the series was closed by transferring it purely for technology development. By 28, berks and so on will become morally obsolete and the states will need a new series of ships in large quantities. It would be a disaster for them if they dealt with them, so I think they will take this matter seriously. hi
        1. kot423
          kot423 13 January 2022 19: 51
          -6
          Quote: spirit
          An unsuccessful attempt is also a result, albeit very expensive,

          So what's the result with the irons? If they swim, (do not walk, namely swim) like Mr. in the ice-hole? Either one has a leak on the shaft - in tow, then the other has a power plant covered - in tow ... Are they going to work out lasers and hypers from the pier (welded like Zaporozhye for the Ukrainians)?
  17. Graz
    Graz 13 January 2022 19: 16
    +1
    bast, yes, start over bully
    see not all the grandmother mastered by the shipyards. not all admirals are attached after retirement
  18. Victor Dubovitsky
    Victor Dubovitsky 13 January 2022 19: 17
    +4
    Quote: Freemason
    It's funny to hear from a person whose country every year presents a new model of an aircraft carrier laughing

    Zumwalt's experience can hardly be called successful, but many new technologies have been tested on it, which will be applied in subsequent projects - unlike Russia, the United States has no problems with the construction of large warships.

    You don't feel the shore at all. "Successful" Zumwalt. From one madness - a railgun to another - a combat laser shooting down something there ... Colossal experience gained from accidents and misunderstandings of this invisibility. Either the author missed it, missed it, did not write it specifically, or the inventors abandoned stealth invisibility, switching to a more moderate “stealth”. If I am right, then this is the "continuity" and adherence to the experience gained.
  19. Basarev
    Basarev 13 January 2022 19: 21
    +1
    Stealth technologies, powerful lasers - this is all, of course, great, especially if you really mastered such a powerful source of energy ... But how will they cope with the heat release? The main trouble with lasers is precisely the ridiculous efficiency - the absolute majority of the energy goes into heat, the beam gets pitiful crumbs.
  20. Victor Dubovitsky
    Victor Dubovitsky 13 January 2022 19: 21
    0
    Quote: Stepan S
    Well, where is he with such contours and a bulb in the Arctic zone?

    So, the sides will be insulated from the inside, and the drift of the frozen steamer will be safe. Before entering the areas controlled by our Northern Fleet. With icebreakers, polar tractors, and ice airfields. I think we will welcome you into our warm embrace. Possibly very hot.
    1. tralflot1832
      tralflot1832 13 January 2022 23: 30
      +2
      And first, white witches will walk around the deck outside, for the sake of fun, all the clinket doors will be welded or mined.
  21. Constanty
    Constanty 13 January 2022 19: 27
    +3
    The cost of implementing the concept will be at least $ 1 billion for the ship's hull.


    Excuse me - what are they going to build these cases from - from titanium, from gold ...? request

    I understand that a fully equipped ship of this type costs several billion dollars, but the empty hull itself should not be so expensive.
  22. Victor Dubovitsky
    Victor Dubovitsky 13 January 2022 19: 31
    -1
    Quote: Basarev
    Stealth technologies, powerful lasers - this is all, of course, great, especially if you really mastered such a powerful source of energy ... But how will they cope with the heat release? The main trouble with lasers is precisely the ridiculous efficiency - the absolute majority of the energy goes into heat, the beam gets pitiful crumbs.

    The champions of efficiency are semiconductor diodes. 78%. Solid state - 5%. Gas-10%. Probably, diodes are attached to get power in megaWatts.
  23. TermNachTer
    TermNachTer 13 January 2022 19: 45
    +1
    Great news, we are stocking up on popcorn and Pepsi, we will watch the movie "Zumvalt - 2"
  24. Vasyan1971
    Vasyan1971 13 January 2022 19: 51
    +1
    Zamvolt, as a platform for the implementation of bold technological ideas, did not take off - the design let us down, apparently. I need to try the swept nose. And if you paste over $ 100 bills from keel to klotik (you can also from the inside, too)? winked Should help. There will be enough money anyway!
  25. Sancho_SP
    Sancho_SP 13 January 2022 20: 03
    0
    Objectively. What I like about the Americans is that they are not afraid to build ships (and not only) for only developed technologies. This is how development is accelerated.
    1. Graz
      Graz 14 January 2022 02: 04
      +2
      they already somehow gave birth to a stillborn freak in their maritime history and the whole world followed them for a long time, this is me about the Monitor
      1. Sancho_SP
        Sancho_SP 14 January 2022 08: 40
        -1
        And those who did nothing - did not give birth to anything at all.
  26. rocket757
    rocket757 13 January 2022 20: 09
    +4
    "Modification of the destroyer Zumwalt": the US Navy presented the concept of a new generation warship with hypersonic missiles and lasers
    . Who would have doubted that they would want to do something like that, super-duper formidable.
    They have always attached great importance to the marine component of their aircraft.
  27. Emergency
    Emergency 13 January 2022 21: 41
    +3
    laughing laughing laughing "with hypersonic missiles ..." (c) Six among ours (although what kind of bastards are ours?) found cattle, some on bunks, some in hell, and hypersonic pindos do not lend themselves to.
  28. Ratmir_Ryazan
    Ratmir_Ryazan 13 January 2022 23: 12
    +2
    Something on our project 23560 Leader looks a lot)).
  29. Archon
    Archon 14 January 2022 03: 30
    0
    If the rockets are made mirrored, then ... The laser will not be able to bring them down?
  30. km-21
    km-21 14 January 2022 03: 31
    -2
    Such ships, built even in small numbers, are capable of upsetting the already very fragile balance of strategic forces in the world in favor of the United States, which will immediately lead to America's aggressive actions against Russia and China. In order to avoid an imbalance, both Russia and China will be forced to either pose a retaliatory threat to the Americans or launch preemptive strikes against the United States, preempting the US attempt to achieve decisive military superiority. Thus, if the arms race cannot be stopped, humanity will suffer an apocalypse. And, very soon.
    1. Nastia makarova
      Nastia makarova 14 January 2022 08: 41
      +4
      do not smoke a lot, it is harmful
  31. Sergey39
    Sergey39 14 January 2022 05: 52
    +1
    And, weakly, even on this ship, to design a railgun? Then, it is possible to cut even more!!!
  32. Opiuk
    Opiuk 14 January 2022 08: 11
    -3
    In destroyers now the United States and China are definitely leaders and head and shoulders above the others, well done.
  33. riwas
    riwas 14 January 2022 08: 55
    +1
    In addition, it will be designed for operations, including in the Arctic space.

    Something he does not look like an icebreaker.
  34. Skipper
    Skipper 14 January 2022 09: 20
    0
    In the article, the Americans say that from 2028 this idea will surf the open spaces ... it became funny to me ... very much .... Their navel is so powerful that after 6 years it will go into series ..... The more in the USA inadequate dreamers the better.
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 14 January 2022 14: 03
      -1
      Within 6 years, it is realistic to create such a ship and put lasers on it as a means of destroying the near zone of UAVs and anti-ship missiles, but with hypersonic missiles everything is vague, most likely it will go into series with new tomahawks and SM 3 and SM 6 missiles.
  35. sen
    sen 14 January 2022 13: 25
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    On the newest ship, the installations will have to feed the lasers

    The Navy wants to equip the new destroyer with a combat laser with a power of up to 600 kilowatts. This will be enough to intercept guided missiles. The ship's dimensions are still unknown, but the military wants it to be 50 percent faster than the Arly Burks and be able to stay in combat position 120 percent longer while consuming 25 percent less fuel.
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