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Norwegian retired general: Western culture itself created the image of Russia as a threat

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On the eve of negotiations in the Russia-NATO format, which will be held for the first time since 2019, the West is considering how to interact with Russia. In particular, they consider the question of how not to make concessions to Russia (or give a positive answer to some of the demands) and at the same time not escalate the situation.


One of those who expresses their views on this matter is the retired Lieutenant General of the Norwegian Armed Forces Robert Mood. His words are published by the Aftenposten edition.

According to the retired Norwegian general, there is an option to avoid a war against Russia. And this method is to grant countries, including Russia itself, the right to join the alliance.

Maud noted that it is time "to really change NATO's mindset by focusing on a defensive concept." The retired Norwegian military leader notes that it would be worth accepting at least one of Russia's proposals - to abandon the deployment of military bases and nuclear weapons outside their own territory. Otherwise, according to Maud, NATO will constantly face military conflicts, and this may happen in the near future.

The Norwegian general also complained that Western culture has been painting the image of Russians exclusively from the negative side for many years:

Look, I don’t even remember a Western film where Russians would be shown positively, and Western characters against their background would be negatively shown. Western culture, the trap of cinema lobby the Western world as something exceptionally good, and the image of Russia and Russians as something vile and primitive. But this is wrong. We ourselves have created an image of Russia as a threat, as a villain.

According to Maud, the West is trying to convince itself that its way of life is the only correct one, and whoever has a different way of life, with that the West cannot cooperate and speak on equal terms. The Norwegian general pointed out that this is the main reason for the problems in relations with Russia.

General Maud at one time also commanded peacekeeping contingents in various countries, including the countries of the Middle East. He retired in 2017.
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  1. Vladimir_2U
    Vladimir_2U 11 January 2022 06: 25
    +18
    It is a pity that both the general is a retired and Norway is a stateless country. And so the military man acted on the mind.
    1. Civil
      Civil 11 January 2022 06: 54
      -9
      Western culture itself created the image of Russia as a threat

      That's right - bullshit. The entire elite is oriented towards the West. There is no more ideological confrontation. Only a way for the military-industrial complex to knock money out of governments.
      1. Barberry25
        Barberry25 11 January 2022 13: 20
        +2
        very funny), given the fact that it is necessary to "knock out" the development, and the wishlist of the generals never lay close to reality .. And in general, the Ministry of Defense showed very well that it saw the OPK in the coffin after the story with the Su-34.
      2. smershxnumx
        smershxnumx 11 January 2022 21: 35
        +3
        Look, I don’t even remember a Western film where Russians would be shown positively, and Western characters against their background would be negatively shown. Western culture, the trap of cinema lobby the Western world as something exceptionally good, and the image of Russia and Russians as something vile and primitive. But this is wrong. We ourselves have created an image of Russia as a threat, as a villain.

        And why are the brains of only retired politicians and the military that turn on? What happens before they retire? Do they deposit their brains upon entering the service? Did anyone have a similar one?
        1. d1975
          d1975 12 January 2022 08: 51
          0
          Yes, we also have in the system of the Ministry of Internal Affairs. Most then become cuddles.
        2. Palmyra
          Palmyra 12 January 2022 18: 04
          +1
          While they are getting paid, they don’t think about it. Otherwise, they will be trampled from work. In retirement, they begin to philosophize ..
    2. Barberry25
      Barberry25 11 January 2022 13: 18
      +2
      would be on duty, would say differently
    3. alystan
      alystan 11 January 2022 16: 23
      +2
      What do you think?
      According to the retired Norwegian general, there is an option to avoid a war against Russia. And this method is to grant countries, including Russia itself, the right to join the alliance.

      All the same, about the expansion of NATO, including Russia. Probably dreams of taking the place of his fellow countryman Rasmussen.
  2. Klingon
    Klingon 11 January 2022 06: 33
    +11
    Wow, an extremely adequate opinion about the attitude of the West towards Russia and the Russians. Well, of course, retired. Now you can tell the truth wassat
    1. Aerodrome
      Aerodrome 11 January 2022 06: 58
      +1
      uniform as from "Star Wars".))))
      1. mitroha
        mitroha 11 January 2022 07: 25
        +3
        Quote: Aerodrome
        uniform as from "Star Wars".))))

        More like a uniform from Paul Verhoeven's Starship Troopers (1997)
    2. Zoldat_A
      Zoldat_A 11 January 2022 08: 32
      +10
      Quote: Klingon
      Well, of course, retired. Now you can tell the truth

      And a funny observation - the more adequate the character, the less he is heard there, in the West. If this general SUDDENLY admitted such obvious things, then, probably, even his own dog does not want to listen to his at home.

      A simple example.
      When Tony Blair stated in 2007:
      I don't think we should apologize for what we are doing in Iraq
      it was heard by the entire so-called "civilized world, the entire West was drowned in applause."
      When, in 2015, he babbled in an interview with CNN
      I also apologize for some of our planning mistakes and, of course, misunderstanding of what might follow the overthrow of the regime.
      - who heard him, except for the aunt who interviewed him?
      1. The black
        The black 11 January 2022 09: 25
        0
        Wow, an extremely adequate opinion about the attitude of the West towards Russia and the Russians. Well, of course, retired. Now you can tell the truth wassat

        Exactly!
  3. Rurikovich
    Rurikovich 11 January 2022 06: 35
    +5
    As soon as the Western bigwigs or warriors have the prefix "ex", then the mind immediately appears in the people. These are no longer accidents, but patterns. lol They can think when they want wassat !
    Only, alas, such manifestations of intelligence sound when they cannot influence anything ...
    Sadness ... For the West as a whole ... Because such statements once again prove the degradation of the Western world, its inability to negotiate request
    1. Snail N9
      Snail N9 11 January 2022 06: 58
      +4
      Well, while still in the service, the foreman told me that he had no right to think, he swore an oath about it, now the superior commander thinks for him. yes
      1. Zoldat_A
        Zoldat_A 11 January 2022 08: 42
        +4
        Quote: Snail N9
        Well, while still in the service, the foreman told me that he had no right to think, he swore an oath about it, now the superior commander thinks for him. yes

        And where was he, in fact, wrong? That's all right.
        Otherwise, it is not an army, but a Novgorod veche.
    2. lisiy prapor
      lisiy prapor 11 January 2022 08: 01
      +2
      To them, with the "demobilization", together with the "citizen", the foreman gives out the intellectual activity from the warehouse.
  4. Pavel73
    Pavel73 11 January 2022 06: 43
    +6
    In the West, only retired generals and politicians are allowed to speak the truth. This is to lull our vigilance. These reasonable words will not be allowed to reach the Western public. They will drown in many times greater streams of dirt and Russophobia in the media.
  5. alex neym_2
    alex neym_2 11 January 2022 06: 50
    +4
    There are many people in the world with sound thinking, but no one hears them - the media honestly work off the money received, and who pays calls the tune ...
  6. Vana Catu
    Vana Catu 11 January 2022 06: 51
    +7
    There have already been many such positive statements about Russia in the West from the lips of retired military men or politicians, only there is no sense in them.
  7. bald
    bald 11 January 2022 06: 55
    +5
    As soon as they retire, in most cases an epiphany occurs, or rather, the removal of responsibility for what was said.
    1. Aerodrome
      Aerodrome 11 January 2022 07: 29
      +1
      Quote: bald
      As soon as they retire, in most cases an epiphany occurs, or rather, the removal of responsibility for what was said.

      wait, how Stoltenberg will sing in retirement! Nightingale !!!
      1. tralflot1832
        tralflot1832 11 January 2022 09: 05
        -4
        Worse, Simonyan will broadcast on the RT and sing as Nightingale !!!
      2. bald
        bald 11 January 2022 14: 22
        0
        Surprising all this, Like "Wedding in Robins" the power has changed.
  8. Lech from Android.
    Lech from Android. 11 January 2022 06: 56
    +3
    Western culture, the trap of cinema lobby the Western world as something exceptionally good, and the image of Russia and Russians as something vile and primitive. But this is wrong. We ourselves have created an image of Russia as a threat, as a villain.

    The Norwegians said to the point ...
    never did the western civilization peacefully resolve the contradictions with the eastern ... always the instrument for achieving the goal was the war ... and now the same is happening as it was centuries ago.
    I can’t imagine a world with the hegemony of the Anglo-Saxons ... I don’t believe that the current negotiations with the United States will remove the threat of the West's war against our country.
    For this, the political elite in Washington must abandon the plunder of the whole world ... which, in principle, is not possible.
  9. dimy44
    dimy44 11 January 2022 07: 03
    +6
    grant countries, including Russia itself, the right to join the alliance.
    Suddenly. Take all the countries of the Earth even then, there will be a block to fight the aliens, and then there will be more sense from the block than right now. Okay, this is sarcasm, in fact - I have not seen such adequate proposals from a Western representative for a long time
  10. tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 11 January 2022 07: 03
    +1
    The first thought is a ban on the deployment of nuclear weapons on foreign territory, I just let the Yankees take their vigorous loaf from Europe, and they will definitely not forget England, also let them carry out a "confiscation", everything vigorous that is produced in the USA should be stored next to the White House lawn .And in NATO, we will enter in places, In Poland, Estonia and Farrerah. wassat
  11. Egoza
    Egoza 11 January 2022 07: 07
    +7
    His words are published by the Aftenposten edition.

    All the same, people honor and think. It is already good that the general spoke like this and his speech was published.
    1. oldzek
      oldzek 11 January 2022 07: 56
      +2
      the voice of one crying in the desert is so called. While they are paying for Russophobia, few hear the voice of reason, but those in power do not hear at all.
  12. 28st region
    28st region 11 January 2022 07: 17
    +3
    Western culture itself created the image of Russia as a threat

    There is nothing surprising. If there is no enemy how to explain billions in spending on weapons.
  13. aszzz888
    aszzz888 11 January 2022 07: 35
    +1
    Norwegian retired general: Western culture itself created the image of Russia as a threat
    Keywords. Like a carbon copy - they will retire and start whining.
  14. Klingon
    Klingon 11 January 2022 08: 02
    0
    Quote: Aerodrome
    Quote: bald
    As soon as they retire, in most cases an epiphany occurs, or rather, the removal of responsibility for what was said.

    wait, how Stoltenberg will sing in retirement! Nightingale !!!

    By the way, this one will not sing, but will scribble Russophobic articles for a fee like Rasmussen
    1. tralflot1832
      tralflot1832 11 January 2022 09: 08
      -3
      I do not agree, will sing the Nightingale if Simonyan gives more royalties, and even only 15% of taxes. wassat
    2. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 11 January 2022 10: 53
      0
      Quote: Klingon
      By the way, this one will not sing, but will scribble Russophobic articles for a fee like Rasmussen

      All Stoltenberg articles will begin - "That's when I was NATO Secretary General ......"
  15. rocket757
    rocket757 11 January 2022 08: 11
    +1
    Norwegian retired general: Western culture itself created the image of Russia as a threat
    So, if you think about it, remember, all INVADERS got horns when they came with their Wishlist to OUR LAND !!!
    The reverse examples are minuscule ... and now, at all, we don't need anything outside, they wouldn’t come to us, and that’s enough.
  16. impostor
    impostor 11 January 2022 08: 23
    0
    grant countries, including Russia itself, the right to join the alliance

    The problem is that, as history shows, NATO membership does not guarantee mutual non-aggression. NATO members happen to be quite successful in fighting against each other request
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 11 January 2022 10: 46
      0
      Quote: impostor
      NATO members happen to be quite successful in fighting against each other

      In the jackal community, they always rush at others, but do not forget to bite each other.
  17. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 11 January 2022 09: 46
    +2
    We ourselves have created an image of Russia as a threat, as a villain.
    Revealed Punchinel's secret. That their exes immediately begin to see clearly and begin to express the correct thoughts? Probably unencumbered by the position and the years take their toll.
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 11 January 2022 10: 43
      +2
      Quote: rotmistr60
      That their exes immediately begin to see clearly and begin to express the correct thoughts? Probably unencumbered by the position and the years take their toll.

      The effect of the flock - everyone in the flock barks, left the flock, I want to bark, I want to wag my tail.
  18. riwas
    riwas 11 January 2022 09: 56
    +2
    Norwegian retired general: Western culture itself created the image of Russia as a threat

    How else to justify spending on NATO and military-industrial corporations.
  19. tihonmarine
    tihonmarine 11 January 2022 10: 32
    +2
    We ourselves have created an image of Russia as a threat, as a villain.

    Even though he is a retired general, he expressed the idea that is in the minds of sane people in the West. Since 1917, the myth of the villainous Bolsheviks has been created, but when "good uncle Hitler" enslaved all of Europe at one point, the Bolsheviks became brothers-liberators not for a long time, but after licking their wounds, the West again tightened the old bagpipe "Russian threat". The West has never been and will never be a good neighbor and partner for Russia.
  20. pexotinec
    pexotinec 11 January 2022 13: 26
    0
    All Western gentlemen with the prefix ex open their eyes and the brain is turned on in the right direction as if by wave of a magic wand.
  21. bk316
    bk316 11 January 2022 17: 35
    0
    Everyone notices and is surprised at how their rhetoric changes when they retire.
    Dear comrades, you seem to be subconsciously still in the captivity of illusions.
    Do you think they have an officer, official, journalist or big businessman saying something that contradicts the "party line", do you think they have some kind of freedom of speech? Yeah, maybe - exactly once belay so it won't.
  22. Victor Dubovitsky
    Victor Dubovitsky 11 January 2022 20: 16
    +1
    Quote: bk316
    Everyone notices and is surprised at how their rhetoric changes when they retire.
    Dear comrades, you seem to be subconsciously still in the captivity of illusions.
    Do you think they have an officer, official, journalist or big businessman saying something that contradicts the "party line", do you think they have some kind of freedom of speech? Yeah, maybe - exactly once belay so it won't.

    Don't be surprised. Just think, and everything falls into place. While in the service, they say that they demand. Retiring, they say what they think.
  23. nikolaj1703
    nikolaj1703 12 January 2022 08: 30
    +1
    The Russian state has the advantage over others that it is controlled directly by God himself, otherwise it is impossible to understand how it exists. (H. Minich)
  24. Jarilo
    Jarilo 12 January 2022 11: 32
    0
    By joining NATO, it will be necessary to buy weapons from the Americans and pay 2% of the GDP for their maintenance, and actually abandon their armed forces. Well, they would be friends with us as Belarusians, otherwise I cannot trust them so much. Let's just say I don't believe them at all.
  25. Sebastian Aristarkhovich Pereira
    Sebastian Aristarkhovich Pereira 12 January 2022 18: 01
    +2
    You will be surprised ..... There are, after all, reasonable generals!
  26. Eroma
    Eroma 13 January 2022 01: 12
    0
    Look, I don’t even remember a Western film where Russians would be shown positively, and Western characters against their background would be negatively shown.

    Agents A.N.K.L. cool movie good Russian is depicted there cool
  27. saygon66
    saygon66 13 January 2022 12: 48
    0
    Directly said: "Russians" ?! negative
  28. ADLTolk
    ADLTolk 14 January 2022 12: 24
    0
    What do you think on this topic:
    War is needed as a means to accelerate the development of technology. For scientists, people are like experimental mice. And, having thrown up shocks in history, they are seized as a headline by this system of civilization control!
    Themselves simply take all the best: finished products and have long ago solved the problem of extending life. I would do that. Tell each group their own version ... and collect the cream myself.