CSTO, if successful in Kazakhstan, can become the basis for countering "color revolutions"

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Today, the dispatch of a contingent of the Collective Security Treaty Organization (CSTO) to Kazakhstan is being actively discussed. Reportedly, the total number of military personnel from Russia, Belarus, Tajikistan, Kyrgyzstan and Armenia in Kazakhstan will be about 2,5 thousand people. Most of them are servicemen of the RF Armed Forces, including airborne units. The main task of the CSTO contingent in the Republic of Kazakhstan is defined as the protection and defense of important facilities, including those of strategic importance.

CSTO Secretary General Stanislav Zas confirmed the mandate of the Organization's collective peacekeeping forces to use weapons... First of all, during the defense of important state facilities, as well as in the event of a direct threat to the life and health of the servicemen themselves.



The collective mission of peacekeepers in Kazakhstan becomes the first mission of this format in the entire history the existence of the CSTO. Recall that the collective security treaty itself was signed in May 1992 in Tashkent, and 10 years later - in May 2002 - the parties to the treaty decided to turn it into an international organization. Therefore, in 2022, the Treaty is 30 years old, and the CSTO itself is 20 years old.

In connection with how the CSTO mission in Kazakhstan will develop, what its results will be, much depends for the Organization itself.

In the case of a successful presence of the contingent in the Republic of Kazakhstan, the CSTO will actually reach a new level, demonstrate its "viability" and the ability to quickly and effectively solve security problems on the territory of the states that are part of this structure. It is hardly worth taking the CSTO as a 100% counterbalance to NATO. Here, first of all, we are talking about something else. The success of the CSTO mission in Kazakhstan will serve as a clear signal that any provocations in the member states can be quickly and orderly suppressed or quickly, as they say, multiplied by zero. This is a signal to foreign special services, which are still not alien to the methods of using destructive elements (up to terrorist groups) to undermine the situation in certain states.

The CSTO, if successful in Kazakhstan, can become the basis for countering the “color revolutions”, primarily in the post-Soviet space. And this, in turn, can increase the attractiveness of the organization for many other countries, which on their own cannot always cope with such threats.
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  1. +29
    7 January 2022 11: 10
    In order not to become a victim of a color revolution, you need to fight corruption, pay attention to economic development within the country, not drive resources for export, and at least once every 10 years it is legitimate to change power.
    What the CSTO is doing in Kazakhstan now is only to relieve pain, but not to cure the disease.
    1. +20
      7 January 2022 11: 31
      Quote: ViacheslavS
      it is legitimate to change the government at least once every 10 years.

      recognition of legitimacy is important
      an electoral loser finds it difficult to accept losing
      while there is no transparent electoral system that would suit the whole society and not serve as a nutrient solution for speculation and accusations
      Quote: ViacheslavS
      What the CSTO is doing in Kazakhstan now is only to relieve pain, but not to cure the disease.

      yes, this is not a cure
      this is the first emergency aid
    2. +10
      7 January 2022 11: 31
      When the hut is on fire, there is no time to complain about a migraine.
    3. +23
      7 January 2022 11: 33
      Quote: ViacheslavS
      In order not to become a victim of the color revolution, you need to fight corruption,

      Therefore, there is corruption in the SHA, it is called "lobbying".
      Quote: ViacheslavS
      pay attention to economic development within the country,

      Libya developed normally, and the people lived well - however, they staged a "color revolution" and ruined the country.
      Quote: ViacheslavS
      it is legitimate to change the government at least once every 10 years.

      In Germany, Angela Merkel led 16 years and everything is fine.
      Quote: ViacheslavS
      relief of pain, but not treatment of the disease.

      First you need to stop - remove the terrorists, then heal.
      Therefore, your entire post is nonsense.
      1. -17
        7 January 2022 12: 08
        This is your post is nonsense, but the person wrote it as it really is.
        1. +13
          7 January 2022 13: 51
          The man wrote utopian populism ... it's a pity you can't see it ..
          1. +1
            7 January 2022 22: 55
            The success of the CSTO in Kazakhstan (and it seems to be looming) will be VERY useful not only for the success of Russia's negotiations with the US / NATO / EU, but also for future Russian-Kazakh relations, strengthening the positions of the CSTO and its member countries. smile
            1. 0
              8 January 2022 12: 31
              And I don't mind what you said ...
            2. 0
              8 January 2022 23: 32
              So Geyrope was still included in the "meeting"?
          2. +3
            8 January 2022 00: 14
            Are elections a utopia? Is the constitution populism?
            If all this is tinsel and props, then who is the power? big money puppets?
            And why should I accept this power as mine?
            1. 0
              8 January 2022 04: 20
              Quote: Metlik
              Are elections a utopia? Is the constitution populism?
              If all this is tinsel and props, then who is the power? big money puppets?

              Yes .. it's all tinsel and props. In any case - in no case should one rely on the so-called "democracy" as an absolute.
              1. +6
                8 January 2022 05: 54
                It is hardly worth taking the CSTO as a 100% counterbalance to NATO. Here, first of all, we are talking about something else. The success of the CSTO mission in Kazakhstan will serve as a clear signal that any provocations in the member states can be quickly and orderly suppressed or quickly, as they say, multiplied by zero.


                This means that if the people run out of patience to look at theft and cheating in the elections. and the police will not interfere, then the Derzhimords will come from another country, who do not care who to kill. It's like now riot police from the Moscow region are going to pacify the Far East.
            2. -4
              8 January 2022 12: 34
              Fair - transparent elections are utopia! Don't you understand that? I can certainly explain, but for a long time ...
              The constitution is ideally populism .. what do you think?
              And you can refuse to recognize the power, but you will have problems ... the power has to be recognized, tk. she is power! Those. law of nature: The strong obeys the weak! It's that simple!
              1. 0
                10 January 2022 01: 05
                Quote: vitvit123
                power has to be recognized, because she is power! Those. law of nature: the strong obeys the weak

                So, in your opinion, in the territories occupied by the Nazis, it was necessary to obey the Nazis?
                1. +1
                  10 January 2022 08: 58
                  Of course not ! Are you here or when? Do you think you created a paradox with your dictum, or what? You can, of course, try to explain the difference to you
                  the power of the occupiers-invaders from the power that your fellow citizens have chosen, but if you do not understand the difference between the fascists, who are destroying your country, your fellow citizens, your loved ones, from their leadership, their country, then ... well, I have only one option. ., we will not write about it, because maybe I don't understand something ...
                  1. 0
                    10 January 2022 10: 34
                    The American advisers who have found a replacement for Yeltsin are not my fellow citizens at all, and you need to decide whether elections are a reality or a utopia.
                    1. 0
                      10 January 2022 11: 20
                      Ebn was that creature that did not seize his country, but betrayed, it doesn’t fit in with the fascists - murderers at all .. ebna, supposedly he chose the people, and who was in the advisers-luminaries of ebn, it’s not clear at all, in the context of that what I said, and if you try to correlate, then again it turns out that I was right ... I was at the helm (with advisers, or something else) and the whole of Russia obeyed him ... by the way, the 96-year elections confirm that I speak:
                      election is a performance !!! try to continue to invent paradoxes, but in vain ... the bicycle has already been invented ...
          3. +5
            8 January 2022 12: 32
            The man wrote not utopian populism, but how it should be under normal government. And the reasons from which revolutions occur. But on this site the number of patriots is off scale - idiots who write the stupidity of those who have watched the first channel, this does not apply to you now.
            1. -1
              8 January 2022 12: 40
              Are you sure you are smart? And how do you know the people you are talking about?
              Why do I ask, because some people also tell me that I have seen enough TV, etc. , but the "trick" is that I rarely watch the broadcast, my other interests began to prevail ... problems - there are a lot of worries, not up to TV, but they tell me ...
      2. -9
        7 January 2022 12: 10
        Therefore, there is corruption in the SHA, it is called "lobbying".


        Every time they equate lobbying and corruption, personally for me this is said either by a troll person (sorry), or not versed in the subject, you read the laws on lobbying, what and how is regulated, at the state and federal levels, how much open, etc.
        Corruption (in the context of comparison with lobbying) is when (it has already been repeated many times) a traffic police officer has a villa with golden toilets or Colonel Zakharchenko $ 300 million “under the mattress”, when former colleagues, friends in sports clubs suddenly become talented businessmen and receive contracts for the construction of bridges, ships, etc., and so on, and it is precisely this kind of corruption that must first of all be fought, it corrupts society, again, again, I repeat, you must fight first of all with the legalization of funds, that is, any large acquisition must be justified the legality of funds, any accounts should also not be soft sentences for major financial and corruption crimes.
        1. -2
          8 January 2022 10: 22
          Every time lobbying and corruption are equated,

          The only difference is in one thing, taxes are paid from lobbying, but there is no corruption, otherwise it is the same thing.
      3. -1
        7 January 2022 15: 17
        Quote: pyagomail.ru
        Therefore, your entire post is nonsense.

        As for me it is harsh, but in principle it is sensibly justified, it is difficult to disagree. Each nation has a different mentality, customs, etc., therefore, the recipes should be different, but stopping the problems at the very beginning would allow making the right decisions, appropriate to the situation. Flower garden scenarios began to malfunction, and soon the mattresses will be abandoned. Judging by the actions of the authorities in Kazakhstan, primary measures have already been developed to counter terrorists, who are people who are ready to destroy their country for personal gain.
        1. +2
          7 January 2022 16: 39
          to counter terrorists

          It is very easy to scatter labels, but what terrorist attacks were committed against the civilian population, or maybe there was a hostage-taking with political or other demands, maybe something else?
          1. 0
            7 January 2022 18: 06
            Quote: ViacheslavS
            , but what terrorist attacks against the civilian population were committed
            Crap! Have you read anything about what is happening in the RK ?! What is the name of the arson of municipal buildings? Looting, setting fire to personal property? Cutting off people's heads? Is terrorism just hostage-taking for you ?! Your statements are very similar to those of the EG victim.
    4. +14
      7 January 2022 11: 34
      In general, so that no revolutionary prerequisites (situations, according to Lenin) arise ... Of course, a sensible and necessary remark. But, "color coups" are not created by the majority of the oppressed masses. They are carried out by systemic political strategists and well-fed beneficiaries. All the beautiful slogans are a picture.
      1. +12
        7 January 2022 11: 53
        "color coups" are not created by the majority of the oppressed masses

        Such a coup is impossible in a country whose population for the most part supports the government. The root cause is always the same - the fucking rulers. And everything else is just a consequence.
        1. +5
          7 January 2022 12: 16
          Such a coup is impossible in a country whose population for the most part supports the government.
          - do not write nonsense, all revolutions and coups are arranged by a very small group of people in relation to the general population of the country. This was the case in 1905, in February 1917, in October 1917, and in 1991 it was the same.
          1. -3
            7 January 2022 12: 57
            You write nonsense. Obviously, history lessons were skipped. Yes - it was always a small group that started, but it won - only if it was supported by the majority of the population !! Well - or at least the people refused to defend the previous government.
            1. +3
              7 January 2022 13: 11
              The majority of the population is always presented with a fait accompli, so no la-la.
              The main question is where the money for the revolution comes from ...
              1. +3
                7 January 2022 13: 17
                Stop clowning. If the majority does not support you at least passively, you will not hold out for six months.

                All you need is to earn money. When Castro landed in Cuba, he had 82 people with him. Did it stop him somehow? Or was he, too, from abroad poured dollars in sacks?
                1. -3
                  8 January 2022 09: 06
                  When Castro landed in Cuba, he had 82 people with him. Did it stop him somehow? Or was he, too, from abroad poured dollars in sacks?

                  After they disembarked and went into the mountains, they immediately began to look for a landing site for the gyroplane. Che's mom promised to send warm socks? Or look at the chronicle - there is a scene where Che and the soldiers take brand new submachine guns from the boxes. Someone lost in the mountains?
                  And think about where the gyroplane might have come from, knowing its range.
        2. SSR
          +7
          7 January 2022 12: 41
          Quote: paul3390
          Such a coup is impossible in a country whose population for the most part supports the government.

          How is it in Ukraine?
          When did an organized and aggressive minority usurp power?
          Quote: ViacheslavS
          it is legitimate to change the government at least once every 10 years.

          Did it help the Ukrainians?
          Imha.
          Until a contingent with a patriotic bias of "elites" is formed in the new democracies, everything will be difficult.
          Each new government that comes, strives to grab and redraw everything for themselves.
          Look how many presidents have been replaced in these Ukraine, Georgia and Kyrgyzstan, but the people did not begin to live better.
          The structure itself must be debugged, the courts, the prosecutor's office, medicine, the media, and not as it is now.
          1. +4
            7 January 2022 13: 00
            When did an organized and aggressive minority usurp power?

            Do you really believe that Yanukovych was supported by the majority ?? Yes, he looks like everyone was already sitting in their livers .. Pay attention - no one stood up for him. I had to skedaddle. And on this wave - the Banderlog came to power and broke through ..
            1. SSR
              +4
              7 January 2022 13: 07
              Quote: paul3390
              When did an organized and aggressive minority usurp power?

              Do you really believe that Yanukovych was supported by the majority ?? Yes, he looks like everyone was already sitting in their livers .. Pay attention - no one stood up for him. I had to skedaddle. And on this wave - the Banderlog came to power and broke through ..

              You are not entirely correct. What does it mean to believe not to believe? We must look at the facts.
              Remember how anti-Maidans were burned and killed.
              Can you remember how the cops handed over a column of buses with anti-Maidans to pravosek on the way to Crimea? (At the end of February)
              Until now, more than 70 people from this column are missing. From one column.
        3. -1
          7 January 2022 15: 56
          This is where we can talk about the so-called. revolutionary preconditions ... The people (some part of them) may be dissatisfied with the government. It can even demand the resignation of senior officials. But the mass itself needs organization and ideological processing (!). It all depends on motivation and, of course, enlightenment and education. By the way, an important role is played by the level and quality of the security and supervisory apparatus. Engaged media are also important, as they are the leaders of public opinion. They carry the "truth" to these very masses. And the Society itself (any), one way or another, is faced with social problems. In this case, it is worth distinguishing social problems from a crisis situation, compare a revolutionary one. Society itself may want changes ... True, what they will be: political or social. People are waiting for social, but it turns out that they are political. (As in (on) Ukraine)
        4. 0
          9 January 2022 09: 02
          Such a coup is impossible in a country whose population for the most part supports the government.

          Despite the enormous efforts of the counter-revolutionary elements, the creation of a deficit and the people's hostility to nepotism and other phenomena of the nomenklatura, the overwhelming majority of the population of the USSR supported Soviet power. But this did not prevent the people from deceiving and not even making a coup, but a transition to another socio-economic formation.
      2. +3
        7 January 2022 12: 13
        They are carried out by systemic political strategists and well-fed beneficiaries. All the beautiful slogans are a picture.

        Surely the situation can be rocked in any country, but in whatever Switzerland it is necessary to carry out a large-scale direct intervention, and in Kazakhstan, as it turned out, it was enough to raise gas prices.
    5. +7
      7 January 2022 11: 42
      I understand correctly - if the authorities in our country still finish off the people with their unrestrained robbery and the imposition of a bolt on the interests of the people, do we have every chance to see Kazakh, Kyrgyz and Armenian troops on our streets? what
      1. -3
        7 January 2022 11: 49
        Well, there are Kyrgyz, Uzbeks and so many on the streets of Moscow.
        The only question is, if a presidential candidate does not even meet with voters, but he is still elected.
        And Tokayev is great, this is not a coup d'etat, it is the terrorists from the neighboring aul who came up, just like Borya in 1993.
        1. 0
          7 January 2022 11: 55
          Well, there are Kyrgyz, Uzbeks and so many on the streets of Moscow

          Do you think that the CSTO troops have already been secretly introduced to us? belay Like - just in case? what
      2. -1
        7 January 2022 11: 51
        Quote: paul3390
        I understand correctly - if the authorities in our country still finish off the people with their unrestrained robbery and the imposition of a bolt on the interests of the people, do we have every chance to see Kazakh, Kyrgyz and Armenian troops on our streets? what

        If we do not engage in banditry and do not use weapons, then we will not see our troops on the streets.
      3. -3
        7 January 2022 11: 55
        Quote: paul3390
        I understand correctly - if the authorities in our country still finish off the people with their unrestrained robbery and the imposition of a bolt on the interests of the people, do we have every chance to see Kazakh, Kyrgyz and Armenian troops on our streets? what


        I am forced to assume that there are not enough fools in the Russian Federation to allow such a situation. Sleep well, in Russia it is not so easy, but not as bad as in many parts of the world.
        1. 0
          7 January 2022 12: 03
          in Russia it is not so easy, but not as bad as in many parts of the world.

          I am simply incredibly happy that under the guidance of a wise guarantor - while I live a little better than in Bangladesh or Zimbabwe !! fellow Despite all his persistent efforts to neutralize this difference .. negative
          1. -1
            7 January 2022 12: 41
            Quote: paul3390
            in Russia it is not so easy, but not as bad as in many parts of the world.

            I am simply incredibly happy that under the guidance of a wise guarantor - while I live a little better than in Bangladesh or Zimbabwe !! fellow Despite all his persistent efforts to neutralize this difference .. negative


            And yet, I insist - there are few fools in Russia! And when there are a lot of them, I think that the CSTO will look different, and we will grow old a lot.
          2. -4
            7 January 2022 13: 58
            Well, do you really think that in Russia people can be satisfied with life under some other ruler? I'm not for Putin, there will just be another president in years ... and people will be happy with everything? Do you believe that this can be real? At least 1% out of a hundred? This is how, 50 years later, they live happily in Russia under the president ...... and Mr. paul3390 (God bless him) is happy with everything ...? Is this real?
            Well, don't you really understand that nothing can change for the general mass, so that it is so fundamentally better ..?
            There will always be people like Paul, svarog, gardamir, etc. with all due respect to you .... so what's the conclusion? In my opinion, the conclusion is that you need to build your life on the basis of existing realities ... no?
            1. -4
              8 January 2022 08: 43
              Well, do you really think that in Russia people can be satisfied with life under some other ruler? I'm not for Putin, there will just be another president in years ... and people will be happy with everything? Do you believe that this can be real? At least 1% out of a hundred? This is how, 50 years later, they live happily in Russia under the president ...... and Mr. paul3390 (God bless him) is happy with everything ...? Is this real?
              Well, don't you really understand that nothing can change for the general mass, so that it is so fundamentally better ..?
              There will always be people like Paul, svarog, gardamir, etc. with all due respect to you .... so what's the conclusion? In my opinion, the conclusion is that you need to build your life on the basis of existing realities ... no?
              It is a pity that only 1 plus can be put here.
              1. -3
                8 January 2022 12: 36
                Thanks for understanding ! And then from these revolutionaries it becomes scary!
      4. +2
        7 January 2022 12: 00
        Quote: paul3390
        I understand correctly - if the authorities do finish with us ... do we have every chance to see Kazakh, Kyrgyz and Armenian troops on our streets? what


        If a hybrid version is used against Russia, with trained militants who will hide behind a "popular protest", then yes, there is such a chance ...

        A counter question, will you support such "protesters" who will shoot at the security forces, rob / destroy the city and call for a change of regime? Of course, all this will be decorated beautifully, under the pretext of fighting the regime, against corruption, for freedom / democracy and the life of the people ... but the result will be, a return to the 90s, if not worse ... there will most likely already be splitting Russia into peoples, states etc. How do you support?
        1. +2
          7 January 2022 12: 25
          And who would you go after in the conditionally 17 year? Knowing what will happen to Gagarin as a result and a calm measured life under Brezhnev?
          1. +1
            7 January 2022 13: 03
            Even without knowing this, I would definitely go to the Bolsheviks!
        2. +2
          7 January 2022 13: 03
          with trained fighters

          Do you have proof? Besides, where are the Kazakh army and police then ?? What do they do? Why are our Airborne Forces forced to fight against terrible militants? It doesn't seem like there are some logical inconsistencies here, huh?
          1. +1
            7 January 2022 13: 30
            Quote: paul3390
            Do you have proof? Besides, where are the Kazakh army and police then ?? What do they do? Why are our Airborne Forces forced to fight against terrible militants? It doesn't seem like there are some logical inconsistencies here, huh?


            I have no evidence, but there are numerous videos in which the picture of what is happening is clearly visible, and to call peaceful protesters - dissent, I can’t turn my tongue, these are real militants, people who have undergone special training, and who are coordinated by someone, + are very competently coordinated. .. this is definitely not a crowd: taxi drivers / workers / teachers / doctors, etc. ... and what is strange, the riots and the bulk of these personnel are concentrated in Astana, and in the rest of Kazakhstan, although the protests are held but peacefully, there is no such chaos ... this is very uncharacteristic for a "popular revolt".

            Regarding the police and army units, I agree that their indecision looked strange, but there is an explanation for this, tk. In Kazakhstan, a change of clans took place: Nazarbayev - Tokayev, and the reshuffle of personnel negatively affected decision-making + the unpreparedness of the personnel for such unrest also makes itself felt, which means that people are not in their place there and are not ready to perform the assigned tasks ... although since yesterday of the day, the army and the police began to act much tougher and more efficiently, and without remorse they began to open fire on the militants. there is a negative experience of Berkut (Ukraine), who was blamed for all the sins, after the flight of Yanukovych.

            Therefore, everything is logical, I emphasize that I do not deny the mass protest of the citizens of Kazakhstan against the government, but completely different forces took advantage of this, and the fact that the army still cannot clear the territory, only shows that there are many militants + they are well trained and armed ... but this is it is only a matter of time before they are completely cleaned out.
            1. 0
              7 January 2022 13: 39
              Of course - some organized forces are participating in full growth there. It is obvious. But I would - say that it is more like the formation of some local clans .. That is - they are trying to use the wave of mass protests to settle old accounts and redistribute power with money. Moreover, one of the local big ones.
            2. +1
              7 January 2022 15: 34
              PS "And what is strange, the riots and the bulk of these personnel are concentrated in Astana" - I apologize for a typo, in Alma-Ata, of course.
      5. +1
        7 January 2022 17: 50
        These will not help, the country is too big. Rather, a nullified one will call on NATO troops - it is not for nothing that his "partners" (Putin's own expression) are gathering strike groups right on the western borders of the Russian Federation.
    6. +9
      7 January 2022 11: 49
      I think that, first of all, the authorities in Russia should think about whether they really serve the people? And the people do not care about the nonsense that the authorities feed the people.
      1. +5
        7 January 2022 11: 59
        Why would she think on completely obvious topics ?? And so it is clear - they put it on the people .. In all post-Soviet formations, including us.
      2. 0
        7 January 2022 22: 55
        They serve, but not the Russian people, but rather the American or Israeli, depending on where their capital is hidden.
    7. 0
      7 January 2022 12: 10
      All that you have listed is not important ... provided that you strictly follow all instructions from the city of Washington ...., but if you do not, then neither the fight against corruption, nor the economic growth of the country will help you, and I am not saying that everything is fine in Russia or Kazakhstan ... hi
    8. -1
      7 January 2022 12: 11
      Quote: ViacheslavS
      In order not to become a victim of a color revolution, you need to fight corruption, pay attention to economic development within the country, not drive resources for export, and at least once every 10 years it is legitimate to change power.

      I was always extremely amused by some kind of simply cave-impassable naivety of some people who believe that problems that they themselves do not understand a damn thing can be solved once or twice.
      Eliminate corruption? Ha!
      Balance the Economy? Do not tell my prostatitis with hemorrhoids!
      The authorities do nothing about it just because it is beneficial for them! We would like to have fixed everything a long time ago! After all, this is just the most a bit more difficult than two fingers on the asphalt.
      To make a shelf in the bathroom is a titanic work! Maximum willpower and physical mental strength! Compared, too, to me, God's gift with scrambled eggs! (God's gift - a shelf, scrambled eggs ... well, you get the idea)
      1. +3
        7 January 2022 12: 29
        The authorities do not do anything while it is FAVORABLE for them, it is, but what will happen when in the process it is beneficial for them they need the right of the first night personal serfs and free labor in the ideals of a beautiful life in Courchevel ??? What will you do in this case, support the breadwinners?
        1. -4
          7 January 2022 12: 39
          Quote: evgen1221
          What will you do in this case, support the breadwinners?

          You can ask yourself. What did you do, working for a penny in the name of the maximum comfort of relatives of the Soviet partaigenosse, who, although on the territory of the Union, lived so happily as no other worker dreamed of?
          Even Stalin could not defeat corruption, even during the war.
          In your opinion, it turns out that corruption was beneficial to Stalin?
      2. 0
        7 January 2022 13: 07
        Do not tell my prostatitis with hemorrhoids!

        What a funny hemorrhoids you have .. It's already enviable ..

        And so - well, of course, everything is simply daunting, why is there already .. Especially when you don’t want to ..

        Here Comrade Stalin came to real power around 1930 .. Plus 20 years of rule - in the courtyard of 1950 .. Let's compare with the results of Putin's reign, or is everything very clear?
        1. -4
          7 January 2022 14: 09
          Even your comparison would be curious, considering that it is not possible to read the course of the war if another person (even Putin) was in power at the time of the Second World War ... and you read how people lived before the war, during the war and after the war and compare. It seems to me that people live better now, well, judging by the books ... I remembered here the book: "Brothers and Sisters", the times of Stalin are very well described there (with all due respect to him), I wouldn't want to live like that .. I now have a salary of 16-20 thousand rubles. , but in those days I would never ... and you would like to live under Stalin?
          1. +1
            7 January 2022 14: 11
            would you like to live under Stalin?

            Yes. No options.
            1. -2
              7 January 2022 14: 22
              Well, I can only say that initially I was not mistaken in you and advise you to read the book about which I wrote above ... but judging by the energy and the meaning of your answer, I am sorry ...
              1. +1
                7 January 2022 14: 25
                You know, I have been literate for 50 years already, and since mastering this difficult art, believe me, I have read quite a few books. And my convictions are the result of life, not popular prints ..

                Well - I'm sorry about your regrets ..
                1. -1
                  7 January 2022 14: 39
                  Well, under Stalin, it might not have been possible to celebrate the 50th anniversary ... there are too many accidents that lay in wait for people ...
                  Yes, it is clear that beliefs are the result of life .., and what kind of results is life made of? And yes, here the rulers must work (Putin, Stalin, etc.) ... wink
            2. -2
              7 January 2022 14: 30
              Quote: paul3390
              Yes. No options.

              In a sense, you can fall right now.
              Under Stalin, there was a cult of physical education.
              Get busy! Improve the quality of your own life at the same time.
              Or what is your best reason to keep growing your butt?
        2. 0
          7 January 2022 14: 11
          Quote: paul3390
          Here Comrade Stalin came to real power around 1930 .. Plus 20 years of rule - in the courtyard of 1950 .. Let's compare with the results of Putin's reign, or is everything very clear?

          If we tighten the screws now, as Comrade Stalin did in his time, then the result will be approximately the same. But the Darkest is a liberal.
          There would be, like under Comrade Stalin, only the state media, broadcasting from morning to evening only state propaganda, and not millions of different garbage dumps, which vying and excitedly tell what idiots are in power, no matter how damn they know how, just to steal, it was it would be quite another matter.
          They would have tried this under Comrade Stalin, they immediately thundered into places not so distant, at best.
          Now try to do that? Immediately, screams will begin that the people have the right to consider the moon empty, Wang real, and the virus a fiction.
          1. +2
            7 January 2022 14: 13
            But the Darkest is a liberal.

            That's it. And in everything. And this is the main problem for us.
    9. 0
      7 January 2022 13: 25
      As I understand it, the CSTO was created only to suppress uprisings within the allied countries, not from an external aggressor, but to preserve those regimes in power! hi hi
    10. -4
      7 January 2022 13: 48
      No one will ever win corruption, it's time to be realistic and understand this, this is the human essence, so stop declaring a utopia ..
      Regarding the rees ... if you are talking about Russia, then again by ... that there are forces no one drives it, but they drive it as much as they buy .. demand gives rise to supply ...
      A legitimate (any other) change of power ... there will always be a bunch of dissatisfied people ... do you think that if the power is changed once a year, will it be even better? ..
      I am not a supporter of Putin or anyone else, I never vote, but reading your comment (or a similar one) you are surprised that from the fact that you have listed nothing 100% gives a positive result, do you really not understand this? ...
    11. +2
      7 January 2022 14: 28
      In order not to become a victim of a color revolution, you need to fight corruption, pay attention to economic development within the country, not drive resources for export, and at least once every 10 years it is legitimate to change power.
      What the CSTO is doing in Kazakhstan now is only to relieve pain, but not to cure the disease.
      Are you talking about Russia? Or is it about anyone, just not about Russia.
    12. +2
      7 January 2022 17: 46
      And how to fight corruption, if it is the basis, flesh and blood, the main spiritual bond, the main instrument of government of such a state as the Russian Federation.
      There is corruption - there is the Russian Federation, there is no corruption - there is no Russian Federation.
    13. -2
      8 January 2022 10: 49
      All this needs to be done, but tens of thousands of NGOs, agents in all organizations are dormant, the media receive money directly from the West, the cultural influence is enormous. That is, in our countries, young people directly grow up as Americans.
      And the turnover of power, well, is that the basic principle? In the world, business is mostly private, and real power belongs to them, as well as the means of production.
      It is these private owners who benefit from the change of power, because no one will encroach on their own sphere of influence. Until even stronger and more grasping owners come from abroad and take away their property from the local princelings. The only thing that opposes this is a strong state, so why weaken it once again? This pseudo-changeability. Because the real power is not acquired in elections, but belongs to corporations.
      And more about turnover. Pharaohs, kings, emperors - this is all without change for thousands of years. The Communist Party is also not about turnover. USA, but there are two parties that periodically change places, but the course does not change dramatically.
      By the way, the leadership of the Federal Reserve of America is elected for 14 years with the right of renewal (presidents for 4). Federal judges are elected for life.
  2. -46
    7 January 2022 11: 12
    Well, why didn’t your ODKBeeeee try her hand in the 14th year in Ukraine ??? Or "is it different" ?!
    1. +24
      7 January 2022 11: 23
      Country 404 is not a member of the CSTO.
    2. +12
      7 January 2022 11: 27
      to Ukraine in the CSTO? Did you make an official request from the authorities?
    3. +11
      7 January 2022 11: 28
      Quote: Nikifor Terskikh
      Well, why didn’t your ODKBeeeee try her hand in the 14th year in Ukraine ??? Or "is it different" ?!

      Answering such nonsense is like sticking your hands in guano. Even looking disgusting, all the more touching.
      But for some, coprophilia is clearly a thrill.
    4. +11
      7 January 2022 11: 28
      Quote: Nikifor Terskikh
      Well, why didn’t your ODKBeeeee try her hand in the 14th year in Ukraine ??? Or "is it different" ?!


      Most likely, the reason for this was that Ukraine is not a member of the CSTO. You read the organization, go to the site, see the history and who are its founders and who are the members today. Do not be lazy!
      1. +5
        7 January 2022 11: 44
        Quote: Babermetis
        Do not be lazy!

        Yes he blurted out, ruined the air and ran away
    5. +9
      7 January 2022 11: 29
      And Ukraine has never been a member of the CSTO. And this organization does not and did not have any obligations to Ukraine.
    6. +5
      7 January 2022 11: 32
      Quote: Nikifor Terskikh
      Well, why didn’t your ODKBeeeee try her hand in the 14th year in Ukraine ??? Or "is it different" ?!

      1.Ukraine was not a member of the CSTO
      2. There was no experience of resistance.
    7. +2
      7 January 2022 11: 37
      really different. Ukraine has never been a member of the CSTO. And there was no reason to interfere.
      1. +4
        7 January 2022 11: 53
        Quote: Nikon OConor
        really different. Ukraine has never been a member of the CSTO. And there was no reason to interfere.

        The reason for the intervention is not membership in a particular organization, but an appeal by the president with a request for help.
    8. 0
      7 January 2022 11: 38
      Does it bother you that Ukraine has never been to the CSTO?
      1. +4
        7 January 2022 11: 51
        Quote: LAlexAlex
        Does it bother you that Ukraine has never been to the CSTO?

        He is not embarrassed, for he is a dumb troll and writes from the basement of the Pentagon. Was here an article 2-4 years ago that the Pentagon is recruiting Russian-speaking trolls (Internet users). wink
    9. 0
      7 January 2022 11: 52
      Quote: Nikifor Terskikh
      Well, why didn’t your ODKBeeeee try her hand in the 14th year in Ukraine ??? Or "is it different" ?!

      And what was the point of bringing in our troops if Yanukovych gave his orders not to use weapons?
    10. +1
      7 January 2022 12: 10
      Quote: Nikifor Terskikh
      Well, why didn’t your ODKBeeeee try her hand in the 14th year in Ukraine ??? Or "is it different" ?!

      Do not worry! He will try again!
    11. 0
      7 January 2022 22: 58
      When trying to enter the CSTO into Ukraine, the system displays a message: "code 404 failed state"
  3. +9
    7 January 2022 11: 12
    Well, the ODKB made me happy. smile We quickly consulted, made a decision and is already in operation. And when they said and wrote that the organization was stillborn.
    1. +9
      7 January 2022 11: 33
      The CSTO contingent was headed by the commander of the Russian Airborne Forces Serdyukov.
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    2. +2
      7 January 2022 15: 34
      Quote: Observer2014
      Yeah. And the motto.

      Ooh ... 11:13 - already in the trash. fellow drinks wassat
  5. 0
    7 January 2022 11: 13
    Garbage, raising the army in a gun and shooting to the weeding out also very effectively measures any riots without attracting forces from the outside.
  6. +3
    7 January 2022 11: 16
    CSTO, if successful in Kazakhstan, can become the basis for countering "color revolutions"

    On the other hand (judging by the indecisive actions of Kyrgyzstan), isn't it time to turn the CSTO into a kind of SVD? Could it be that testing by combat as part of Russian units (in Syria, for example) would facilitate closer interaction and understanding?
    1. +10
      7 January 2022 11: 36
      Be condescending at least to Kyrgyzstan. Even if they defend themselves from the gangs themselves, this will already be a success.
  7. +2
    7 January 2022 11: 17
    The CSTO, if successful in Kazakhstan, can become the basis for countering the “color revolutions”, primarily in the post-Soviet space. And this, in turn, can increase the attractiveness of the organization for many other countries, which on their own cannot always cope with such threats.

    That's right, it would be nice to bring up the CSTO and countries that were not part of the USSR. For example: the Philippines and something from Latin America. Syria after the accession of Peace there. That would be a serious blow to the Anglo-Saxons.
  8. -2
    7 January 2022 11: 18
    China must be admitted to the CSTO. And to restore the membership of Uzbekistan and Azerbaijan.
    1. 0
      7 January 2022 11: 44
      Azerbaijan and Armenia are not really a combination. I think both of these countries will not agree to be in any union at the moment.
  9. +7
    7 January 2022 11: 18
    Does anyone doubt the success of the CSTO mission?
    And this is a factor that the organizers of this rebellion clearly did not take into account ...
    1. +8
      7 January 2022 11: 25
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      Does anyone doubt the success of the CSTO mission?
      And this is a factor that the organizers of this rebellion clearly did not take into account ...

      They were convinced that the CSTO was a worthless, nominal structure.
      Medved refused to help resolve the situation in Kyrgyzstan in 2010. The Kyrgyz officially asked for help and received a cookie.
      Lukashenko then very much spat and cursed about the worthlessness of the CSTO.
      But the situation has changed smile
    2. +6
      7 January 2022 11: 45

      Mountain shooter (Eugene)
      Today, 11: 18
      NEW
      +6
      Does anyone doubt the success of the CSTO mission?
      And this is a factor that the organizers of this rebellion clearly did not take into account ...
      Yes, yes. Previously, the CSTO was not used on such a scale, therefore for directors)) it's like a Faberge hammer - soft-boiled! and what to do, for whom it is easy now!
    3. -5
      7 January 2022 11: 45
      And you already know - who organized the type of rebellion? What serious sources of information do you have - it seems like there were no official statements on this topic ..
      1. +1
        7 January 2022 11: 57

        paul3390 (Paul)
        Today, 11: 45
        NEW

        -1
        Do you already know who organized type mutiny? What serious sources of information do you have - it seems like there were no official statements on this topic ..
        "like" everything has its time. Only cats will be born quickly.
        1. -1
          7 January 2022 13: 08
          Yes - but you are already loudly declaring that everything is clear - this is the damned State Department and some militants in terrible quantities? So I'm asking - otkel infa?
  10. -1
    7 January 2022 11: 18
    Do you have doubts about success? Press down, so long as the politicians do not hobble.
  11. +7
    7 January 2022 11: 19
    CSTO fighters take protection of life support facilities, media, administration, etc. Kazakhstani law enforcement and military forces are cleaning up terrorists. Judging by the information from the media, they are working well. They will suppress this gang and the lesson for others.
  12. 0
    7 January 2022 11: 23
    This is how the CSTO should always act. We decided promptly, and the troops were promptly dispatched. All color and orange revolutions must be squeezed in the bud
    1. +3
      7 January 2022 17: 55
      Or maybe it is necessary to crush the oligarchs and corrupt officials in the bud, or at least shoot them in batches like in the USSR and the PRC - then there will be no color revolutions?
  13. -9
    7 January 2022 11: 24
    In case of success?! Where is the video of Kazakhs enthusiastically meeting their defenders ?! So far, only one can hear that they say that Tokayev's mistake and we ourselves will cope. The Entente troops in Russia, somehow they did not meet with joy, and in fact the allies were
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      1. -4
        7 January 2022 12: 41
        Wangyu that you will roll off to the ban much earlier hi
        1. +1
          7 January 2022 14: 01
          Didn't guess everything culturally tongue
    2. -2
      7 January 2022 11: 48
      Well, yes. This is how our peacekeepers were greeted, say, in Serbia - I think everyone remembers .. And in Syria, too, they were quite happy with our troops. As for the Kazakhs, there is still nothing to see with great enthusiasm.
    3. -1
      7 January 2022 12: 22
      What Entente troops in Russia are you talking about? You are probably confusing the timeline, but even then they were not there, perhaps you confused the country?
      Perhaps you want to say that the Entente (allies of the USSR) during the Second World War liberated the USSR from the Nazis and not the grateful population of the USSR did not appreciate this contribution and showed this joy when they met?
      Can you reveal the secrets and facts that were not previously known, but then something is not clever for me for myself!
      1. 0
        7 January 2022 12: 39
        Quote: IGOR656
        Perhaps you want to say that the Entente (allies of the USSR) during the Second World War liberated the USSR from the Nazis and not the grateful population of the USSR did not appreciate this contribution and showed this joy when they met?

        Are you a victim of the exam? What is the Entente and the Second World War ?! fool
  14. 0
    7 January 2022 11: 24
    The CSTO Peacekeeping Forces will be able to resist color revolutions in the post-Soviet space only if the legitimate power is supported by a large part of the population and power structures. The Belarusians passed this exam with dignity. It's too early to say for the Kazakhs, the city is for, the village is supplying militants.
    1. 0
      7 January 2022 12: 13
      The only correct opinion on the site.
      If the CSTO interventions are supported by corrupt regimes that have gone bankrupt in the eyes of the indigenous population, as in Kazakhstan, this will cause hatred of the peoples of the former USSR towards the Russian Federation and its leader. We do not need a thieves' international. We need an international of working people, peoples. And then there will be a semblance of the USSR 2.0
    2. 0
      7 January 2022 12: 22
      only if the legitimate power is supported by the majority of the population and the security forces
      - most of the population does not decide anything ...
      1. +1
        7 January 2022 12: 26
        Power structures are recruited from the majority of the population.
        1. 0
          7 January 2022 12: 44
          and what? how many are in relation to the rest of the population? do not forget about the rigid vertical of power among the security forces ...
          1. +2
            7 January 2022 13: 03
            Did this vertical of power work in the USSR and Ukraine?
            1. 0
              7 January 2022 13: 14
              no, it never existed either in the 91st or in 2014, this vertical, the power of its profukol ...
              1. -3
                7 January 2022 13: 32
                So, most of the population was against it and the vertical did not work.
                1. +1
                  7 January 2022 13: 37
                  you yourself are not funny about "most of the population"?
                  1. -2
                    7 January 2022 13: 51
                    Why did the GKChP tanks not work, but Yeltsin's tanks did?
                    1. +3
                      7 January 2022 13: 59
                      maybe because the GKChP drove out into the streets everything he could, and Yeltsin specifically those who would shoot? How many of those tanks were there in 93m?
  15. -10
    7 January 2022 11: 26
    Quote: ViacheslavS
    In order not to become a victim of a color revolution, you need to fight corruption, pay attention to economic development within the country, not drive resources for export, and at least once every 10 years it is legitimate to change power.
    What the CSTO is doing in Kazakhstan now is only to relieve pain, but not to cure the disease.

    Talk nonsense. Corruption is invincible, and even mass shootings, and demonstratively public, as in China, will not be of any use. The severity of the punishment only increases the extent of corruption. They will take the risk. A person will not care how his neighbor lives if he himself has a lot of what he wants. In principle, everything cannot be. But the availability and the possibility of acquiring ... Of course, envious people have always been and will always be. But the risk of falling under the pressure of punishment for brawl himself, and, in conditions that he lives quite decently, will make such a Maidan impossible. Perhaps it? I think that it is not possible. Hence it follows that it is not necessary to increase the well-being of all to infinity - this is unattainable, but, by maintaining it at a decent level, to increase the risk of punishment. Not letting go of the reins, and not flirting with democracy and tolerance. Throwing up an idea to fight a swindler will find a response everywhere, always. Ukraine is not an example? Will it find support from the people? This is where you need to pay attention.
    1. +1
      7 January 2022 12: 10
      However, the experience of the USSR and the PRC showed that only frequent and regular use of the death penalty against officials of all levels can reduce corruption to a minimum.
      And in the Russian Federation and other republics of the former USSR, corruption is the main spiritual bond and the main principle of government. And this corrupts both the government and the people, destroys the morality in the country completely.
      1. 0
        8 January 2022 21: 05
        So how did this help the USSR?
    2. +4
      7 January 2022 13: 13
      In your opinion, a corrupt official is such a brave official who doesn’t even need death. Fearless and immortal.
  16. +5
    7 January 2022 11: 33
    It used to be called the "Warsaw Pact Forces".
    They were introduced to Hungary, Czechoslovakia to counter
    "color revolutions".
    1. +4
      7 January 2022 12: 24
      and entered correctly ...
      1. +1
        8 January 2022 21: 04
        Perhaps right, but what did it give us? For us - this is our then and present country.
        1. -1
          9 January 2022 04: 59
          at that time kept the balance of power in Europe
  17. +1
    7 January 2022 11: 34
    The main factor is now time. The revolt will suppress in any case, but the faster - the lower the price of the issue will be. Well, the NATO members have a clear answer - to nullify the influence of the United States in the last of the republics of Central Asia, the rest are already scientists, their lessons of democracy have received at different times.
    1. 0
      7 January 2022 11: 58
      Quote: faterdom
      Riot will crush anyway

      In 2014 in Ukraine "in any case" did not work. So it's too early to relax. Moreover,
      The US administration is ready to assist Kazakhstan in solving political and economic problems
      More details: https://eadaily.com/ru/news/2022/01/07/gosdep-zayavil-o-gotovnosti-ssha-okazat-pomoshch-kazahstanu
  18. +1
    7 January 2022 11: 43
    The CSTO, if successful in Kazakhstan, can become the basis for countering the “color revolutions”, primarily in the post-Soviet space.

    It's not for nothing that Psaki got worried ...
  19. +1
    7 January 2022 11: 56
    CSTO, if successful in Kazakhstan, can become the basis for countering "color revolutions"
    ... If you think about it, remember, the gay European ALSO CARED about creating a multinational rapid reaction force, to "extinguish fires" that can break out with them too !!! On the basis of NATO structures or only within the framework of the EU military / police forces, it is necessary to find those proposals and carefully look ...
    So, nothing unexpected, conflicts, internal, stimulation from the outside, may well arise in the "blessed gamerope" ...
    And we and our allies in the CSTO, the god / gods himself ordered to strengthen the alliance and immediately kick the horns with any ... horned ones that climb up to us with their Wishlist.
  20. 0
    7 January 2022 12: 01
    Judging by the number of servicemen sent by our "brothers", Russians are again used as cannon fodder. Only before it was done by Europe, and now the Asians.
  21. -1
    7 January 2022 12: 05
    And in case of failure, if the events in Hungary in 1956, in Czechoslovakia in 1968, in Afghanistan in 1979 are repeated?
    If now all the media in Kazakhstan and the West, local nationalists will shout: "Russians are killing Kazakhs!"
    What if the local Kazakh population, pumped up by nationalism over the decades of Nazarbayev's rule, will perceive the Russians invading in tanks not as peacekeepers, but as invaders and invaders, and they will be shot in the back from every corner?
    Did they calculate everything, getting into the civil war on the side of the government hated by the majority of the people?
  22. -3
    7 January 2022 12: 05
    Quote: Wagner
    Funny article.
    And where was the CSTO during the war between Armenia and Azerbaijan?

    Read the CSTO Charter and answer to yourself. Well, or give yourself a "two", honestly and without exaggeration.
  23. +1
    7 January 2022 12: 12
    Quote: Vasyan1971
    Quote: faterdom
    Riot will crush anyway

    In 2014 in Ukraine "in any case" did not work. So it's too early to relax. Moreover,
    The US administration is ready to assist Kazakhstan in solving political and economic problems
    More details: https://eadaily.com/ru/news/2022/01/07/gosdep-zayavil-o-gotovnosti-ssha-okazat-pomoshch-kazahstanu

    And in Ukraine the elite surrendered the country, so there was no one to press or ask for help. In Kazakhstan, as before in Belarus, there is a leader with a clearly expressed will and direction, so success will be anyway, faster - less cost and destruction, fewer lost ones will fall into enemies or die. Everything is simple, and not in any other way.
  24. sen
    +2
    7 January 2022 12: 13
    After deliberation, the Kyrgyz authorities decided to send peacekeepers to Kazakhstan

    Color revolutions, as a rule, are organized from the outside, by foreign organizations preaching Western values, Islamic radicalism or local Nazism. We need preventive work, and not bring things to the "handle".
  25. 0
    7 January 2022 12: 18
    Quote: Alexander Kruglov
    However, the experience of the USSR and the PRC showed that only frequent and regular use of the death penalty against officials of all levels can reduce corruption to a minimum.
    And in the Russian Federation and other republics of the former USSR, corruption is the main spiritual bond and the main principle of government. And this corrupts both the government and the people, destroys the morality in the country completely.

    They drive this infection underground. And they raise the rates. There is another way of fighting, it was used in the USA. Make them legal. Loving interests. And whoever does not fit into this picture is a corrupt official. Those. who follows the rules is a respectable official and a businessman. NO medication. There is a razor cutting at the top. But the reasons will always be alive. The reasons are inequality. Equality of all before all is the death of human development. Inequality is the engine. When the temperature is equal everywhere, there is stagnation. Where the water level is equal everywhere, there is a swamp. There is no transfer of energy, material, information. There is nothing.
    1. +1
      7 January 2022 18: 01
      I agree. Inequality is the engine of progress. It is so nice to see when the oligarchs of the Russian Federation Abramovich, Rotenberg, Vekselberg, Fridman, Aven will put a noose around their fat neck under the approving whistle of a crowd of thousands of poor citizens of the Russian Federation! Or a living Chubais is publicly quartered right on Red Square! Millions of Soviet people will have a sense of deep satisfaction and justice.
      1. -1
        8 January 2022 21: 01
        Well, yes, and I would like to continue the banquet. In 1917, too, at first, the bourgeoisie plants were taken away from the bourgeoisie, and then, when the "big money" was over, the turn came to the owners of individual apartments, whom the Shmonders and Sharikovs, God forbid, if they left a room, and in the village their comrades wrote down even those , who had at least one horse on the farm. It was here that a feeling of deep satisfaction and justice arose. Together with idle running water, hunger and pissed off front doors.
  26. +1
    7 January 2022 12: 20
    Considering that in recent decades, this is exactly how our partners have been acting, this is an obvious and correct decision.
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    1. +3
      7 January 2022 12: 57
      And the bombing of NATO countries - is it bright and kind? Entering units to guard and bombard infrastructure and economic facilities! Can you catch the difference?
  28. -4
    7 January 2022 12: 21
    If the CSTO troops entered Kazakhstan in order to displace the president, who is completely embarrassed, to nationalize oil and gas companies, Anglo-American TNCs, to lower prices and tariffs, to establish socialism, then they will be greeted by the Kazakh people robbed by the bai with enthusiasm and flowers.

    And if the CSTO troops entered Kazakhstan in order to preserve the power of thieves - oligarchs there, to leave everything as it was before the revolution, to protect the private property of Anglo-American TNCs from the people, to squeeze the people from natural resources, to preserve class oppression and social injustice - then they will be greeted with hatred and bullets.

    The effectiveness of the CSTO is directly proportional to the social justice that this bloc brings to the peoples of the former USSR.
  29. -3
    7 January 2022 12: 22
    In the event of a successful stay of the contingent in the Republic of Kazakhstan, the CSTO will actually reach a new level, demonstrate its "viability" and the ability to quickly and effectively solve security problems on the territory of the states that are part of this structure

    Simply put, it will be a gendarme structure, a guard for the oligarchic power.
  30. 0
    7 January 2022 12: 22
    For those interested, this is not news for a long time ...
    Our powers that be, have a tight imagination (the USE makes itself felt) ...
    So they use either tracing copy of the Anglo-Saxons - "protection of the legitimate government, dem \ values" ...
    Or older times of the Republic of Ingushetia - "Russia gendarme of Europe",
    "two allies, an army and a navy", "guns don't fire without us" ...

    For their own money, those in power do not really like to maintain the security forces, but at the expense of the receiving party, please ...
    No money? Let's take what is, well, there: oil, ore, diamonds and other pine / bananas ... back and forth ... makshish-baksheesh ...

    The fact is that Western bourgeois cats are fat and only hiss, and ours are young, hungry, have sharp fangs ... but with creativity, the truth is not very good, yeshens with clip thinking, well, what to take from them ...
    CSTO, it is so "UNDERNATED" ... but with the same goals and ambitions ...

    The law of capitalism - the security forces and the military-industrial complex, in a bourgeois country, a paid lever / consumable in the noble cause of robbing economic competitors, it doesn't matter if the local population wants social justice, that is, so that the bourgeoisie save on the length of the yacht ... or foreign khans, bays, sultans who trade by their pockets ...
  31. +1
    7 January 2022 13: 01
    Here are the crooks and found the use of the CSTO, to support each other in the event of a threat of loss of power. no better application to be found. A simple solution, when our own power structures do not want to fight with their people, a precedent has been created, you can continue to express your delight.
  32. -3
    7 January 2022 13: 28
    Quote: Sergey11121
    In your opinion, a corrupt official is such a brave official who doesn’t even need death. Fearless and immortal.

    The one who has a guarantee of immunity takes. Try to offer something big to someone. You will be kicked off the third floor. Consider a provocateur or a madman. Think too lazy, or do not know how? Does an example knock you off your feet when a general fighting corruption had billions in cash under his bed? But, the most remarkable thing is not even that, but that the confiscated goods were not delivered safe and sound, having lost several hundred million rubles along the way. IN A CIRCLE. And you are about the carelessness and stupidity of an official hoping for impunity. Far from it.
  33. -6
    7 January 2022 13: 43
    Quote: Konnick
    In the event of a successful stay of the contingent in the Republic of Kazakhstan, the CSTO will actually reach a new level, demonstrate its "viability" and the ability to quickly and effectively solve security problems on the territory of the states that are part of this structure

    Simply put, it will be a gendarme structure, a guard for the oligarchic power.

    There is no place for the paranoid. Learn to choose those who are not oligarchs. By the way, you don't even fucking understand this term - oligarch. And there, in the Kalashny row. Your place is at the bucket. If - a horseman, then a horse's tail.
  34. 0
    7 January 2022 18: 03
    The CSTO is a reactionary bourgeois international of thieves and swindlers!
  35. -3
    7 January 2022 20: 31
    Quote: Alexander Kruglov
    I agree. Inequality is the engine of progress. It is so nice to see when the oligarchs of the Russian Federation Abramovich, Rotenberg, Vekselberg, Fridman, Aven will put a noose around their fat neck under the approving whistle of a crowd of thousands of poor citizens of the Russian Federation! Or a living Chubais is publicly quartered right on Red Square! Millions of Soviet people will have a sense of deep satisfaction and justice.

    You see, and you stepped on the floor of your coat and you cannot get up. It would be good to understand (this is difficult, and not available for everyone) that money works and is stored where it is safe. There are ghosts who climb for huge profits, risking not only property, but also their lives. They are few. Marx said that all primary capital is earned in a criminal way. Let's agree with him. Abramovich. Buys a yacht, a foreign football club. We are silent about the houses THERE, it goes without saying. Why do you think he did it? I will answer. Because deposits in other people's banks, with the talent of the prosecutor's office and well-grounded accusations, can be arrested and taken away. Do you know Khodorkovsky? Well, at least you heard the name? A yacht in no way. It stands in neutral waters, and no state will pirate. Arrest in the port? This is please. The port is the jurisdiction of the state. Neutral is neutral because it's a draw. Can you select an English club? Exactly. So, why the hell isn't he building factories here? So, you are waiting for him here with a rope. Shvonders are all those who are not Sharikovs. Ready to select and divide. Let us all calm down, they will, AT THE SAME TIME, build factories in our country. The yacht will be sold, from her only losses, maintenance costs. The plant gives a profit. New money. Why will it build here, and not abroad? That's why. that THERE is the tax scale it will be cut shamelessly, in Sweden, for example, business taxes are up to 75% per year. You can have any profit with us, and only for 13%. So, the reasons are not in them, but in us. You, really, decide for yourself, Polygraph Poligrafovich, what you need - justice in the distribution of someone else's, or that the loot should work in Russia and benefit all of us.
  36. -1
    7 January 2022 20: 40
    Well, at least something from this CSTO! I respect the strength. More often you need to show it, and not look to the west. In this fucking world, they respect and understand, only strength! Well done here. They don't chew snot ...
  37. 0
    7 January 2022 22: 46
    Normal topic.
    Daugavpils is Dvinsk.
    Klaipeda is Memel.
  38. -3
    7 January 2022 23: 00
    Quote: den3080
    China must be admitted to the CSTO. And to restore the membership of Uzbekistan and Azerbaijan.

    If China is admitted to the CSTO, then the entire territory of Kazakhstan will have to be cleared of cities and civilians under the Chinese army - otherwise the PLA will not fit.
  39. -2
    7 January 2022 23: 01
    Quote: agoran
    Normal topic.
    Daugavpils is Dvinsk.
    Klaipeda is Memel.

    Vilnius is Vilna
  40. +2
    8 January 2022 01: 25
    Now any dissatisfaction of the people will be called a color revolution and terrorists and give the order for destruction without warning. Lived. They need to keep power and they show the keys how to do it.
  41. -1
    8 January 2022 12: 01
    Quote: paul3390
    But the Darkest is a liberal.

    That's it. And in everything. And this is the main problem for us.

    Well, then it's more likely a neoliberal ...
  42. -2
    8 January 2022 12: 07
    Quote: paul3390
    And you already know - who organized the type of rebellion? What serious sources of information do you have - it seems like there were no official statements on this topic ..

    Why should they be aware of? The "party" said: it is necessary! - "Komsomol" answered: yes!
  43. -1
    8 January 2022 12: 09
    Quote: Alexander Kruglov
    Or maybe it is necessary to crush the oligarchs and corrupt officials in the bud, or at least shoot them in batches like in the USSR and the PRC - then there will be no color revolutions?

    You don’t understand - this is different! It will not be spiritually strong ... winked
  44. -1
    8 January 2022 20: 50
    Well, Russia was already the gendarme of Europe, and what did it give her?
  45. +1
    9 January 2022 08: 15
    CSTO, if successful in Kazakhstan, can become the basis for countering "color revolutions"
    Who would doubt that,
    now, if that on ... and no matter what house - White, gray or whatever, not only the tanks of the RF Armed Forces, but also the armored vehicles of the CSTO can be hammered, this is probably the way to understand! sad