The US military expressed doubts that Turkey would allow the US Air Force to fly from the Incirlik base against Russia in the event of a conflict in Ukraine

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The United States continues to talk about the situation with NATO's eastward expansion and what military assistance the United States can provide to Ukraine "in the event of an attack on this country by the Russian Federation." Moreover, the rhetoric is largely reduced to the fact that a direct military conflict with Russia should be ruled out. This is evidenced by the absolute majority of experts, including the military. And such judgments are voiced not only in the media, which are opposed to the Biden administration, but also in those that are "designed" to reflect the policy of the current American administration - the Democratic Party administration.

One of the areas of discussion: where in general the US Air Force can direct its combat Aviation into the airspace of Ukraine, if, nevertheless, an order is received from the command to use the US air force in an armed conflict against the Russian Federation. The ideal option for the US military is to consider airfields in Poland, the Baltic countries, Romania, Bulgaria and Turkey. However, the total number of US Air Force fighters from Romania to Estonia is no more than two dozen. There is "hope" for the Incirlik airbase in Turkey, which houses an impressive American military contingent, including the US Air Force fleet, but there are problems here too.



The American military doubts that the Turkish authorities will unequivocally allow US aircraft to fly from the Incirlik base if the Pentagon decides to use it against Russia in the event of a conflict in Ukraine. The argument here is the fact that Washington and Ankara have very tense relations, including because of the unresolved situation with Fethullah Gulen and American sanctions for the purchase of the S-400 Triumph air defense system from the Russian Federation.

That is, flights from the Incirlik base are also questionable. Then, if the US Air Force participates in hostilities, it will be necessary to use aircraft from bases in Germany and Italy. But, firstly, there is more than 2,5 km from the Spangdalem base (there are more than fifty US Air Force fighters there) in the FRG to a potential theater of military operations. Secondly, it is not at all a fact that the governments of Italy and Germany will unanimously support such flights.

The option with an aircraft carrier group, which is now in the Mediterranean, is also being considered. But while American fighters fly to the southeast of Ukraine, for example, from Cyprus, they will be ready for their meeting, including Russian air defense systems on the southwestern borders of the Russian Federation and Russian interceptors over the Black Sea.
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  1. +8
    29 December 2021 15: 11
    The US military expressed doubts that Turkey would allow the US Air Force to fly from the Incirlik base against Russia in the event of a conflict in Ukraine


    It's okay.
    Russia is also not sure that Cuba will provide its territory for the basing of Russian aviation in order to control drug traffic and stabilize migrant flows in the Caribbean.

    So it's a draw.
    1. +8
      29 December 2021 15: 22
      Well, there is also Venezuela, Nicaragua. In any case, you need control and you need to install the S-500 and Poplar, otherwise the drug lords even have submarines. Nothing personal, just security laughing
      1. +1
        29 December 2021 21: 30
        What a misfortune! Well, the Americans / NATO are not dancing to help the Ukrainian Armed Forces in the event of a conflict with Russia! It’s something to sincerely sympathize ... lol
    2. 0
      29 December 2021 15: 26
      For that, you can explain in the case of faq, we did not intervene because the Turks did not allow us
    3. -1
      29 December 2021 15: 56
      The problem is that Cuba will not provide anything. Nobody is waiting for us there.
      1. +1
        29 December 2021 16: 20
        Quote: Bomb
        The problem is that Cuba will not provide anything. Nobody is waiting for us there.


        based on the results of remote political consultations held on December 21 between the Ministries of Foreign Affairs of Cuba and Russia

        "During the fruitful exchange, the coincidence of positions characterizing the historical relations between the two countries was confirmed. Mutual interest was noted in continuing to strengthen coordination in international forums for action in defense of multilateralism, international law and the UN Charter."

        IA REGNUM reports with reference to the press service of the Cuban Foreign Ministry
    4. 0
      29 December 2021 17: 00
      Bloomers will attack the LDNR. On this and the calculation of the Amer. New sanctions against sp-2 and Russia as a whole.
  2. 0
    29 December 2021 15: 15
    The US military expressed doubts that Turkey would allow the US Air Force to fly from the Incirlik base against Russia in the event of a conflict in Ukraine
    And the minke whales are already going somewhere to fly ???
    Strange assumptions / assumptions ... again, journalists, the media, climb in front of the locomotive?
    However, there is no doubt about the existence of such strategic plans ... but they are not often and loudly talked about, usually.
  3. 0
    29 December 2021 15: 15
    The US military expressed doubts that Turkey would allow the US Air Force to fly from the Incirlik base against Russia in the event of a conflict in Ukraine

    Think correctly. The warnings of the Russian president can be ignored and ignored; a missile strike against the source of danger to Russian statehood is impossible!
  4. +3
    29 December 2021 15: 18
    The US military expressed doubts that Turkey would allow the US Air Force to fly from the Incirlik base against Russia in the event of a conflict in Ukraine

    Maybe the Turks are smarter and guessed that they can fly at their airfield, and if we "miss" and hit Constantinople. fellow fellow
    And since Russia seems to have been "awakened" completely, then trying to "poke a stick at us" again may be too costly. Yes angry
  5. +3
    29 December 2021 15: 21
    In which case, the Americans are evacuated from Turkey. Quickly.
    The Russia-YUSA interconnection is already all scheduled, when, under what and in which case.
    Our brothers and their brothers are - brothers.
    Turkey is not their brother.
    There she is in the swing.
    A reason is needed. They seek and find.
  6. +2
    29 December 2021 15: 26
    Another attempt to keep the wave of Russophobic hysteria alive.
    1. +1
      29 December 2021 16: 04
      Quote: Trapp1st
      Another attempt to keep the wave of Russophobic hysteria alive.

      She is this hysteria, the Anglo-Saxons have their first weapon.
    2. +4
      29 December 2021 16: 12
      Quote: Trapp1st
      Another attempt to keep the wave of Russophobic hysteria alive.

      They are preparing for talks on January 10-12, raising the stakes imitating the tireless efforts to stop the "threats" from Russia. You just need to explain that in the event of a cut, it may turn out that the American pilots who have taken off will simply have nowhere to return ...
      1. +1
        29 December 2021 16: 17
        in the event of a cut, it may turn out that the American pilots who have taken off will simply have nowhere to return ...
        They can and will return where, but whether it will be a question to anyone, and it does not matter where they left from on the last flight. It would be better to think about it.
  7. 0
    29 December 2021 15: 37
    Are the Turks so stupid as to expose themselves in such a way?
  8. 0
    29 December 2021 15: 53
    And the point is for the Turks to rake a nuclear warhead on Injerlik?
  9. -2
    29 December 2021 16: 18
    The American partners should not be so gloomy about the future. The Turks will send their troops to Bulgaria and will be the US guarantor for using the Bulgarian airdromes against Russia. As says with one shot, two hares.
  10. -3
    29 December 2021 16: 23
    Some kind of battle, well, yes, the Amers do not have a very good relationship with Erdogan, but not far from Crimea there is quite loyal Romania or Poland ...
    1. 0
      29 December 2021 17: 43
      I did not understand the minus, that Romania and Poland are far from Crimea? Or do you think that they will not allow amers to their airfields? belay
  11. -5
    29 December 2021 16: 31
    The Turks will allow it! They have already resolved!
  12. +1
    29 December 2021 16: 32
    I think in this case the base will not exist for long.
  13. -1
    29 December 2021 16: 35
    TASS
    The American military leadership ordered to leave the nuclear aircraft carrier USS Harry S. Truman in the Mediterranean Sea in connection with the situation around Ukraine.
    According to the agency, the head of the Pentagon Lloyd Austin gave the order to temporarily leave the strike group in the water area, "to provide support to the US allies and partners in the region."
  14. +1
    29 December 2021 16: 39
    The US military expressed doubts that Turkey would allow the US Air Force to fly from the Incirlik base against Russia in the event of a conflict in Ukraine

    And rightly they doubt it. "Incirlik" has long been in the sights.
  15. -5
    29 December 2021 16: 40
    Quote: faiver
    Some kind of battle, well, yes, the Amers do not have a very good relationship with Erdogan, but not far from Crimea there is quite loyal Romania or Poland ...


    Interestingly, Erdogan is against the new Crimean War and therefore sold the Bayraktar to Ukraine to help a peaceful settlement? If you do not know, he was going to create a common fleet of NATO Black Sea powers, too, out of peace-loving and friendly feelings for Russia?
  16. 0
    29 December 2021 16: 40
    In vain do they express doubts.
    Turetchina are still "friends". They sleep and see how to play dirty tricks.
  17. +3
    29 December 2021 16: 55
    I do not understand why our people are silent? The attack on the Russian Federation is openly discussed - where are our journalists, experts, politicians and the rest? Where are the official statements about the inadmissibility of such rhetoric, that NATO by its actions is proclaiming our military response and that if, God forbid, what happens, then those and those are to blame for this?
    1. 0
      29 December 2021 20: 22
      Quote: sannyhome
      Where are the official statements

      Where else is it official - this was said back in the fall ...
      1. 0
        2 January 2022 12: 16
        Quote: your1970
        Quote: sannyhome
        Where are the official statements

        Where else is it official - this was said back in the fall ...

        Autumn? Seriously? ALL Russian and pro-Russian publications should write about this, at least once a day, every day.
        1. 0
          2 January 2022 14: 53
          Quote: sannyhome
          Quote: your1970
          Quote: sannyhome
          Where are the official statements

          Where else is it official - this was said back in the fall ...

          Autumn? Seriously? ALL Russian and pro-Russian publications should write about this, at least once a day, every day.

          For what? For whipping up hysteria?
          Over there in the country 404 every day somebody shouts that the Russian Federation has attacked / attacked .. does anyone take it seriously after that?

          It was said, everyone who is supposed to hear
    2. -2
      29 December 2021 20: 33
      I do not understand why our people are silent?

      Wait a minute, Masha will cut the salads, wipe her hands on her apron and give her partners a smile of bewilderment.
  18. +1
    29 December 2021 17: 07
    Shikotno am. Here, with impunity, make a raid as on Lebanon, Iraq, etc. will not work. They will knock them down, and the diapers will get wet in the water, there will be no one to catch
  19. Msi
    +3
    29 December 2021 18: 04
    Such reasoning, to put it mildly, is perplexing. (On providing a base against Russia) What kind of war and what bases can we talk about in a conflict with a nuclear power. fool
  20. -1
    29 December 2021 18: 04
    Times have changed.
    Turkey itself walks on the edge of a knife.
    A kind of sacred sacrifice that suits everyone, like a sacrifice. But it does not suit everyone as a state.
    There are many reasons. Geopolitical, technological, industrial, ideological ... mass.
    Sacred sacrifice.
    For America, for Israel, for China, for Syria, for Europe (yes, for her), for Russia ... (ellipsis).
    Russia, of course, is like a new Wailing Wall for those who beat their heads against it.
    But, the fact is the fact.
    In the process of redistribution of local spheres of influence, it will not break off for many reasons.
  21. -2
    29 December 2021 18: 06
    So first, the Americans need to bomb Turkey like Iraq-Libya-Syria, crush under themselves, and then they will be able to defend 404 from the Russian Federation from there. wassat
  22. +2
    29 December 2021 20: 32
    The last thing that the Americans can use in the conflict in Ukraine is their own aircraft, because it is very expensive and the result will be disastrous. All they can do is take out their embassy on a transporter with a request not to shoot down the board.
  23. 0
    29 December 2021 20: 34
    Moreover, the rhetoric is largely reduced to the fact that a direct military conflict with Russia should be excluded
    Well, right! What flights then? Sit quietly ...
  24. +1
    30 December 2021 01: 36
    In order to calm all the "interested" ones, it is necessary to officially inform in advance that if the "mixing" begins on the territory of Ukraine, then Russia will immediately declare a ban on ANY flights, ANY aircraft over the territories of Ukraine.
    So calm down guys ...
  25. -1
    30 December 2021 06: 25
    Silly chatter ...
    Ukraine, and the potential aggression of the Armed Forces of Ukraine against the citizens of the Russian Federation? ...
    What does the USA have to do with it? ...
    All "wild geese" (ichtamnet) no matter whose nationality - the United States, Canada or other Tribals and Poles, identified on the territory of Ukraine, will be exponentially eliminated by the first strike in the barracks ...
    Those who will be "in the field" at this time will be brutally captured ...
    If they survive, it is indicative, they will sit down as "mercenaries" for "life" in the camps in those climatic conditions to which, in order to get, the United States does not even have icebreakers ...
    There was one proud Caucasian "hero" with a plate in his head - he didn’t live long on quiche, the plate was clearly in the way ...
    And Rejepychu now, with the lira rate, tourists from, and tomatoes in the Russian Federation, and the transit of gazuli to the EU, will be closer to eggs than the interests of close relatives from the office for the production of UAVs ...
    And then, quite unexpectedly, SUDDENLY, the activation of the PKK in Ankara and Istanbul, the death of the command staff of the Turkish Armed Forces - all of a sudden ...
    For our bomber and the pilot of the Russian Aerospace Forces, did they receive a response in the form of minced meat from the bus from the group of flyers, for the Mi-8 shot down in Karabakh, did several Turkish generals fatally land?
    The Turk is not a fool, the head must understand when the head is ...
    Silly chatter ...
  26. +1
    30 December 2021 06: 45
    naive think that they will have something to fly? OH WELL ..
  27. 0
    30 December 2021 09: 23
    Everything you need to know about the country except the gas business, which shot down our plane, killed our ambassador and sold drones to the country of a likely military conflict with us !!!
  28. 0
    30 December 2021 11: 13
    Let's see. Opportunities have existed since the 1960s, now even more so. The most important thing is that the order is given clearly and distinctly. And on our way, not 5, but already 125 columns of "Tabakka waiters" lurked in anticipation .............. I think there will be a lot of work for the internal troops in the event of a real batch. Not to mention that brushwood is ready at different borders, firstly in Syria, our bases will definitely be attacked by "unknown planes", in the Far East the Japanese will definitely not repeat mistakes during World War II and will make our life as difficult as possible, a hearth will be created in the Caucasus on the territory of Armenia, in Transnistria, there will immediately be a batch, the Kaliningrad region will be attacked, from the territory of the former republics in Central Asia, their partners in military exercises can strike our underbelly, submarines can strike from the side of the Arctic Ocean, and this is not the whole range of threats. Therefore, in the light of the above, there is only one way out - to hit right off the ground in the jaw, that is, with special ammunition it is scary, powerful, inevitable ... Well, or observing different conventions to fill your population this time not with 25 million, taking into account modern weapons. During the storming of Berlin, many of our soldiers died, and it was possible to level the cities with the ground with aviation and artillery, taking into account the fact that these animals have done on our land .......
  29. 0
    3 January 2022 10: 20
    Quote: your1970
    Quote: sannyhome
    Quote: your1970
    Quote: sannyhome
    Where are the official statements

    Where else is it official - this was said back in the fall ...

    Autumn? Seriously? ALL Russian and pro-Russian publications should write about this, at least once a day, every day.

    For what? For whipping up hysteria?
    Over there in the country 404 every day somebody shouts that the Russian Federation has attacked / attacked .. does anyone take it seriously after that?

    It was said, everyone who is supposed to hear

    What nonsense? Do you know a lot of people who hear the interlocutor from the first time? They don't owe you anything. Now raise anyone in the EU at two o'clock in the morning, ask, he will answer - Russia will attack Ukraine and threaten Europe. But it should be the other way around - he must answer - the United States and England want to seize Ukraine and unleash a war in Europe.