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The US administration announced that in the event of a "Russian invasion of Ukraine", it will ban the export of smartphones to the Russian Federation

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Journalists are trying to find out from representatives of the American administration what sanctions the US authorities can impose on Russia "in the event of the invasion of Russian troops into Ukraine." The topic of "invasion" continues to be actively discussed. A degree of discussion was added after Russia made proposals to the United States and NATO on security issues. Recall that Moscow is proposing to create a legally binding document on mutual guarantees. For its part, Russia demands that NATO renounce further expansion to the East, as well as renounce the deployment of NATO weapons near the borders of the Russian Federation. The US continues to claim that it is studying the document, but adds that "the requirements are unacceptable."


According to Western media reports, the Biden administration is considering a possible sanctions response to, again, a "possible" Russian invasion of Ukraine. Earlier, Washington said that in this case, the sanctions would be "unprecedented." What specific restrictions can we talk about?

As it turns out, the United States is ready to impose a ban on certain exports to Russia. In particular, it is stated that Russia “may be prohibited from supplying smartphones, as well as components for automotive and aviation industries ".

However, experts note that in the modern world, mechanisms have already been developed to bypass almost any sanctions. Thus, it is noted that smartphones from South Korean and Chinese manufacturers prevail in the Russian market. It is unlikely that the United States will be able to prohibit these manufacturers from making money on the supply of "smart" technology to Russia. The situation is no less controversial for the United States in the case of the supply of components for the auto and aviation industries, given that the United States itself has left the Russian market (with rare exceptions in the form of a few individual companies).

It should be emphasized that the US, which is imposing endless sanctions, has decided to complain about Russia to the WTO for "violating the rules of international trade." It would seem that the height of cynicism. But for those who themselves violate these rules day in and day out, this is a normal situation. You see, Washington, represented by the US Trade Representative, is concerned that Russia is setting up barriers for a number of foreign goods, promoting import substitution.
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  1. Ross xnumx
    Ross xnumx 22 December 2021 06: 43
    +12
    Russia could have taxed American electronics a long time ago. They constantly chew snot ... Do we have this Ministry of Industry and Trade with the highest paid minister or ...?
    1. Finches
      Finches 22 December 2021 06: 54
      +38
      I’m thinking, are Americans really so stupid that they calmly swallow this game? Well, with the Ukrainians, everything is clear - the farm-Ragul mentality has completely eradicated the intellect from the consciousness! Those will rejoice at this message and believe that when a Russian soldier finds out that he cannot buy an iPhone, he will immediately cry and stop the invasion! laughing
      1. mitroha
        mitroha 22 December 2021 07: 12
        +49
        The logic, or rather the lack of it, among the top officials of the United States, is striking. That is, I understood correctly: we are seizing Ukraine, we are prohibited from importing iPhones, we are seizing Poland, we are prohibited from importing Boeings, we are picking up the whole of Europe, except for Kosovo, because Kosovo is Serbia, and they forbid us to use licensed Windows? laughing good
        Well, then, you can wave it good
        1. red machine
          red machine 22 December 2021 07: 48
          +3
          sometimes it seems that at the head of the SGA, there are current employees of the GRU of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation
          1. krot
            krot 22 December 2021 11: 24
            +2
            Apparently now fans of iPhones will sell their homeland and yell, why Putin started all this .. Let's see what all this will result in.
            1. El Chuvachino
              El Chuvachino 22 December 2021 12: 45
              +5
              I am an iPhone lover, but I will immediately give it up in the situation you are describing. Don't label one size fits all
              1. Vadim237
                Vadim237 22 December 2021 18: 36
                -1
                We will declare a boycott to the Yabloko people and switch to Sony.
                1. El Chuvachino
                  El Chuvachino 22 December 2021 22: 24
                  +1
                  I've built an ecosystem on an apple, it's very convenient. Unfortunately, Sony cannot provide this.
        2. Rusticolus
          Rusticolus 22 December 2021 08: 36
          +12
          Well, then, you can wave it
          An iPhone is not needed for nothing, a personal Boeing is the same, and to gates I always showed an elbow gesture ... From damn it, I have to take over all of Europe after lunch. request
          1. alex neym_2
            alex neym_2 22 December 2021 08: 57
            +24
            Why is China, South Korea silent? They should jump for joy - the competitor voluntarily leaves the market! That's what I understand - a Christmas present! I did not expect such generosity from mattress makers ...
            1. Rusticolus
              Rusticolus 22 December 2021 09: 26
              +14
              Why is China, South Korea silent?
              They are not able to ... They have a week long spree. laughing
              1. Alex777
                Alex777 22 December 2021 12: 16
                +5
                Separately, the appeal of the States to the WTO smiled!

                GENEVA, August 30. / TASS /. The member countries of the World Trade Organization (WTO) once again failed to reach consensus on the filling of vacancies on the Appellate Body. At a meeting of the Dispute Settlement Body (DSB) on Monday, the US delegation said it was not prepared to support 121 states' call to begin selecting candidates for the seven vacancies, a trade representative told reporters confidentially.
                "The United States said it was not prepared to accept a proposal by 121 WTO members calling for the start of the selection of candidates for the Appellate Body," the spokesman said. "This was the 45th blocked opportunity to start the filling process."

                Because of the States, the WTO does not handle any disputes. For a long time.
                The WTO does not have the required number of judges for the procedure.
                Normal behavior of the hegemon - that the USA is not profitable, then they
                block cynically. For what we fought for, we ran into it now. bully
            2. avib
              avib 22 December 2021 14: 41
              +2
              The phone is a piece of iron, but its operating system and all services are all American. Blocking an android on the territory of Russia - it will be unpleasant.
        3. Bshkaus
          Bshkaus 22 December 2021 10: 06
          -11
          we select all of Europe for ourselves, except for Kosovo, because Kosovo is Serbia, and they forbid us to use licensed Windows?   
          Well, then, you can wave it 

          Who's in the way, surprise all of us, answer my comment via a rotary dial phone with the "window 3.1" operating system, while you drive from Siberia to the hard-won one, but our native Berlin is on the side reserved seat, maybe you will have time to "wind up" the smiley wassat
          1. Alexey RA
            Alexey RA 22 December 2021 11: 32
            +8
            Quote: Bshkaus
            Who's in the way, surprise us all, answer my comment via a rotary dial phone with a window 3.1 operating system

            And since when has the United States become the only smartphone manufacturer, and the OS greedy Billy - the only operating system? wink
            1. Liam
              Liam 22 December 2021 12: 07
              0
              Quote: Alexey RA
              smartphone manufacturer

              Smartphone without OS is a piece of plastic
              Quote: Alexey RA
              Greedy Billy's OS is the only operating system

              And what equivalent alternatives are available on the market and that they would completely lack American components?)
              1. Rusticolus
                Rusticolus 22 December 2021 13: 06
                +3

                And what equivalent alternatives are available on the market and that they would completely lack American components?)
                Huawei / HarmonyOS
                The Americans themselves raised a competitor for themselves. And now Google is tearfully asking to lift the sanctions before it's too late.
                1. Liam
                  Liam 22 December 2021 13: 44
                  -2
                  Quote: Rusticolus
                  Huawei / HarmonyOS

                  With the same success, you can declare the MC-21 a real rival of Boeing and Airbus.
                  1. Rusticolus
                    Rusticolus 22 December 2021 14: 28
                    +2
                    Why then did the Americans get so excited, they began to press by hook or by crook, impose sanctions, disconnect from services, if this is not a competitor to them? And why is now Google already begging Congress to lift sanctions from Huawei before they had time to spin up their Axis? Beat yourself in the chest and scream how exceptional they can, of course. But their deeds speak quite the opposite. In other matters, they always "make it impossible to understand the other"
                    1. Liam
                      Liam 22 December 2021 14: 35
                      0
                      He was a competitor to them while he was working on the American OS.
                      1. Rusticolus
                        Rusticolus 22 December 2021 14: 42
                        +4
                        Previously, it was a competitor only as an iron producer, now it has also become a competitor as an OS. And what sanctions will the United States now impose? Will it be forbidden to sell this OS on its territory? But what if China also prohibits Windows? Although, why prohibit, it is enough just to impose retaliatory sanctions in the form of rejection of their copyright.
                      2. Liam
                        Liam 22 December 2021 14: 45
                        0
                        Quote: Rusticolus
                        now it has also become a competitor as an OS

                        What are you ... and how are the Chinese doing after the imposition of sanctions?
                      3. Rusticolus
                        Rusticolus 22 December 2021 14: 50
                        +4
                        In their words, they are going to become the leader of this market segment in the near future. They already became the leader of 5g, while there was fair competition. I don't see any particular reason why not to become one again.
                      4. Liam
                        Liam 22 December 2021 14: 52
                        -1
                        Quote: Rusticolus
                        From their words

                        Words are not OS to make and not to carry bags, but reality is a vertical drop in economic indicators and market share
                      5. Rusticolus
                        Rusticolus 22 December 2021 15: 05
                        +3
                        At first you asked to name at least some alternative, but now you yourself are talking about market share. Since there is at least some share, it means that as an alternative, this OS has already taken place. Previously, they also talked about Linux, why it is needed, there are vents. Well, where is the android now and where is the Windows mobile OS? I am not a supporter of any one of these operating systems. Therefore, we'll just wait and see if it takes off or not.
                      6. Liam
                        Liam 22 December 2021 15: 09
                        -4
                        Lada is also, in a sense, an alternative to Mercedes. In theory. Like the Boeing MC-21.
                2. El Chuvachino
                  El Chuvachino 22 December 2021 13: 44
                  -1
                  And how do you imagine the global transition of the entire population to other software and hardware? What about specialized hardware and software? Medical, server, broadcast and so on and so on?
                  1. Rusticolus
                    Rusticolus 22 December 2021 14: 36
                    +4
                    And where did you get the idea that the software is radically different? There are the same eggs, only in profile. The Chinese do not hide much that their OS is developed on the basis of android, and supports the work of most android applications. In fact, they copied the android, replacing only Google services with their own.
                    1. El Chuvachino
                      El Chuvachino 22 December 2021 16: 44
                      +1
                      Suppose you, technically, how do you imagine replacing tens of millions of mobile devices per X hour after scrapping, and in the same way replacing all PCs with Windows and Apple connected to the Internet?
                      1. Rusticolus
                        Rusticolus 22 December 2021 20: 26
                        0
                        And don't tell me what this X-hour is, when tens of millions rush to buy iPhones at the same time, and then the Americans are oops, and we won't sell them to you. Of course, I can imagine that Americans will simply turn off their iPhones at the same time to all their users. But after this, not only tens of millions, just tens of units and then they will go to them to buy another potential brick.
                      2. El Chuvachino
                        El Chuvachino 22 December 2021 22: 23
                        +1
                        The same X-hour that you described. At one point, all devices connected to the Internet turn into blocked bricks by the decision of Congress or some other shit. And here we can talk not only about iPhones. The same can apply to Android smartphones and PCs, both on Windows and on Macos.

                        Even if we hypothetically imagine that we know about the subsequent shutdown, even in six months, a kind of catastrophe will begin with an unattainable reorientation of hardware / software in the vast majority of structures and not only civilians. I am generally silent about civilians, many will simply lose the opportunity to work.
                      3. Rusticolus
                        Rusticolus 23 December 2021 04: 46
                        +1
                        Personally, this will not affect me. If it will cause certain inconveniences with a smartphone, what exactly is inconvenience. About any oskirpichivanija and close talk. That computer with anti-sanctioned Windows as it worked and will work, will not even notice it. As for commercial and state institutions, it is worth ObEP and UP.K, turn a blind eye to this, and system administrators, at the behest of their superiors, will instantly resolve this issue themselves. Yes, for them it will be a certain kipish, but they also receive a salary for this. Administrators of Internet resources are another matter. For those, yes, it will be crap if they block access to Google and Amazon services. But as if the article is not talking about this at all, and judging by practice, in this, rather, our ILV is more to be feared. In other matters, it is worth confessing, with regards to epl products, everything is a little more complicated. Given the low level of intelligence of most of their users, it will be much more difficult there. "Daddy, daddy !!! I have my palamalasa, buy me a new one !!!"
                      4. El Chuvachino
                        El Chuvachino 23 December 2021 09: 14
                        +1
                        Quote: Rusticolus
                        Personally, this will not affect me. If it will cause certain inconveniences with a smartphone, what exactly is inconvenience. About any oskirpichivanija and close talk. That computer with anti-sanctioned Windows as it worked and will work, will not even notice it.

                        This is the problem, that you only think of yourself.
                      5. Rusticolus
                        Rusticolus 23 December 2021 16: 49
                        0
                        So why should I think for those who do not even want to think for themselves? So this problem is not mine either.
        4. ugol2
          ugol2 22 December 2021 11: 08
          +10
          So, when we take Washington and Los Angeles, then what?
          McDonald's will be closed here ?! belay
          1. Alexey RA
            Alexey RA 22 December 2021 11: 36
            +4
            Quote: ugol2
            So, when we take Washington and Los Angeles, then what?
            McDonald's will be closed here ?! belay

            Burger Kingy!
      2. astra wild2
        astra wild2 22 December 2021 07: 42
        +7
        Colleague Zyablitsev, do not confuse the population of Ukraine and their top.
        At the top, they are also not full of downs, but they completely depend on the United States, which means they must believe in everything that is said in the White House.
        If they say that they will forbid us to use toothpaste, they must believe in Kiev. And the population is a parallel reality
        1. sportline
          sportline 22 December 2021 10: 46
          +9
          Good afternoon and Happy New Year! I have to disagree with you. The Ukrainians themselves chose this government. They had a choice. They could have chosen Medvedchuk or Muraev and they would have lived well. But they made their choice in favor of clownery and fascism. They must now reap the rewards and be responsible for their choices. I don’t feel sorry for them. We have suffered a lot because of these brown-headed ones, too. Well, the price of this nonsense is too high.
          1. shtatsov
            shtatsov 22 December 2021 12: 25
            +2
            Most of the population, including in Russia, is ordinary people. Who are not particularly interested in politics and do not understand it. And they choose those who promise more. If they go to the polls at all. Therefore, either the active minority wins, as happened in / in Ukraine, or the organized minority.
            1. sportline
              sportline 23 December 2021 01: 10
              0
              Can a cleaning lady be made a plant director? And what about the cook as the chief accountant of the plant? I do not think that with such an appointment, the result will be positive at the end of the year). For some reason, our people Sobchak allocated 1.7%. And Ukrainians ... 73%. I thought that this only happens in cheap American cinema. But no. Ukraine is cinema.
      3. aszzz888
        aszzz888 22 December 2021 07: 51
        +3

        Zyablitsev (Eugene)
        Today, 06: 54
        NEW

        +11
        I just think the Americans are really so stupid that they calmly swallow this game? ...
        Do you still doubt it? request I suppose there people are quite and long intoxicated by their politics, and + their education, or rather the lack of it.
      4. Polite Moose
        Polite Moose 22 December 2021 08: 04
        +9
        Quote: Finches
        I’m thinking, are Americans really so stupid that they calmly swallow this game?

        Eugene! hi
        Do you know how to make a person feel good? You must first make him feel bad, and then, after a while, do it as it was. The n-s have been playing this game for a long time and, I must say, not without success. They create a problem and then sell the solution for a high price. But in the current situation, I still cannot understand who is pushing the solution of an artificially created problem to whom in the form of a bogeyman of the Russian invasion of Ukraine. Like: we are not invading Ukraine, and they don’t touch the SP-2 for this and don’t place missiles next to us? If this is so, then they have lost on their own field, because only an insane, or a Pole, can seriously make plans to seize Ukraine. I am inclined to think that, most likely, these shocks by the codpiece on the American side are such an attempt to save the face of the world leader after they were sent by Ng, Iran did not bend, and in Afghanistan, this is how they did it for the whole world. I can hardly believe the version that in this way the n-s are trying to tear us away from China and temporarily take us out of the game. hi
      5. NKT
        NKT 22 December 2021 08: 53
        +1
        So it is designed to "raise" the masses, nothing more.
        I wonder why smartphones and not Boeings, for example? )
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      7. Lionnvrsk
        Lionnvrsk 22 December 2021 14: 57
        +1
        Quote: ROSS 42
        We have this ministry "Ministry of Industry and Trade" with the highest paid minister or ...

        We have a highly paid minister who is more busy buying up Gelendzhik and surrounding areas! yes Why does he need any other graters?
      8. Sergei 23
        Sergei 23 22 December 2021 15: 10
        +1
        The salad may not cry, but Dmitry Anatolyevich is thinking ...
      9. isv000
        isv000 22 December 2021 15: 18
        +1
        Quote: Finches
        ... that when a Russian soldier finds out that he cannot buy an iPhone, he will immediately cry

        Let's take it for ourselves: "The soldier was getting drunk, a tear was rolling down, The trophy iPhone was rattling, And a medal" For the city of Washington was shining on his chest! " drinks
      10. Reserve officer
        Reserve officer 22 December 2021 15: 46
        +1
        And they will also ban drinking Coca-Cola. Just awful...
      11. And Us Rat
        And Us Rat 22 December 2021 20: 30
        0
        Quote: Finches
        I’m thinking, are Americans really so stupid that they calmly swallow this game?

        Who exactly? American layman? Yes, they are simply not interested in this topic.
        Russian-American "confrontation" in no way does not affect the life of an ordinary American man in the street. For 98% of them, information related to Russia, in terms of significance, comes somewhere after the National Geographic broadcast about the mating dances of the African bark beetle during the monsoon season.
    2. Civil
      Civil 22 December 2021 07: 21
      -9
      Quote: ROSS 42
      Russia could have taxed American electronics a long time ago. They constantly chew snot ... Do we have this Ministry of Industry and Trade with the highest paid minister or ...?

      It's just that we are peaceful businessmen, why bring down the economy of our American vassal, after the dollar has dropped from 34 to 74 rubles, they still cannot come to their senses. laughing
    3. den3080
      den3080 22 December 2021 08: 24
      +11
      Not where we started !!
      We must first ban the supply of cowboy hats to Russia ... It will be something !! Nobody in the world has experienced such a blow before !!
    4. Zaurbek
      Zaurbek 22 December 2021 09: 19
      +1
      There are taxes .... there are simply no other owners of the OS ... all in the USA.
      1. Orange bigg
        Orange bigg 22 December 2021 09: 55
        +1
        But we have options for consolidating the success in the field of import substitution.
        ... Aurora is the first domestic mobile operating system. Now it belongs to Rostelecom, but initially it was developed by former employees of Nokia, and it was called Sailfish Mobile OS RUS. Aurora is the only mobile OS included in the Unified Register of Russian Software. This means that only it is recommended for use in government agencies. The built-in information security system encrypts the data that the user sends and receives. Information is stored on servers or in the company's cloud storage, which makes it much more difficult to hack the system. At the kernel level, the system maintains control of the file system, bootloader, and key components, the violation of the integrity of which leads to the blocking of the device.

        Configuring devices to work in a specific industry is done centrally through the management platform - "Aurora Center". Users cannot install and uninstall applications or update the OS version on their own: the administrator is responsible for this. Up to 500 mobile devices can be remotely controlled through the Aurora Center.


        ... The introduction of the domestic mobile operating system Aurora continues in Russia. At the end of last year, the president ordered to provide doctors and teachers with devices with an installed domestic OS until 2022, and then Aurora will be used in other industries. In the future, all state institutions will completely switch to domestic software and equipment. The production of tablets for "Aurora" is already being carried out by Russian companies - "Aquarius" and "Baiterg".


        According to the latest data, a complete transition to domestic software should be completed by 2024, and to domestic equipment by 2025.

        It should be noted that civil servants will not be obliged to give up their smartphones with Android or iOS. "Aurora" is designed exclusively for corporate use: the employee of the institution is issued a device with a domestic OS installed on it, where only the necessary applications for performing work tasks are already loaded.

        https://hightech.fm/2021/06/17/aurora-os
        1. Zaurbek
          Zaurbek 22 December 2021 10: 12
          +1
          We always have options ...... Take at least the stories with Elbrus and Baikal. How they are helped and how they are hindered ... although it is obvious that the hardware should be of its own, but different structures have a lot of "hands" and everyone wants something. Here the SBER started working with the servers on Elbrus and immediately someone pushes information that the SBER is unhappy .......
          1. El Chuvachino
            El Chuvachino 22 December 2021 13: 47
            +1
            Modern solutions of our processors use Western architecture, and it will be impossible to meet the catastrophic demand if Western technology is scrapped at the command. Elbrus and Baikal are still very far from consumer solutions
            1. Zaurbek
              Zaurbek 22 December 2021 13: 49
              +1
              Baikal and ARM, Elbrus - Russian architecture, even the Americans write about this ... But there are a lot of industries where their capabilities are higher than the roof ...
              1. El Chuvachino
                El Chuvachino 22 December 2021 16: 45
                +1
                There are no questions to industry areas, and they are not able to cover consumer areas either today, or in a year, or even in 5.
                1. Zaurbek
                  Zaurbek 22 December 2021 21: 58
                  0
                  Quite right. China has taken over the ARM division ... and is issuing production licenses to itself ... you can buy
                  1. El Chuvachino
                    El Chuvachino 22 December 2021 22: 19
                    +1
                    China doesn't own ARM, it's still a British company that could in theory be bought by Nvidia
                    1. Zaurbek
                      Zaurbek 22 December 2021 23: 03
                      0
                      China raided ARM's Chinese subsidiary ... ... and continues to issue licenses in China
          2. Cetron
            Cetron 22 December 2021 20: 33
            0
            Who is not happy - to Siberia, fell the forest or dig ore! You can pour a dam on Sakhalin, with the prospect of reaching the Russian island of Hokkaido, temporarily occupied by Japan. There is a lot of work in unfavorable climatic conditions!
    5. YOUR
      YOUR 22 December 2021 09: 44
      +1
      Therefore, the highest paid
    6. Bshkaus
      Bshkaus 22 December 2021 09: 52
      -7
      Russia could have taxed American electronics a long time ago. 

      Well, well, do you really sincerely think that in your Samsung or Huawei there are some special electronic boards of Asian origin ?!
      1. sifgame
        sifgame 22 December 2021 10: 19
        +6
        in the huavei it is exactly like that - "special" as you put it, Chinese motherboards with Chinese processors. and the Chinese "googlemarket".
        1. Bshkaus
          Bshkaus 22 December 2021 15: 42
          -1
          in the huavei it is exactly like that - "special" as you put it, Chinese motherboards with Chinese processors. and the Chinese "googlemarket".

          For a second, I want to note that the "exclusively Chinese" Xiaomi blocks the operation of its smartphones in Crimea by default.
          I sincerely believed that the announcement of the ban on the import of smartphones between the lines carried a warning about the complete blocking of the work of new models on the territory of the Russian Federation based on geolocation, not the one against which you think you can put a tick "off" and all the cases, but the one that truly determines the position of the phone and at your discretion communicates it to you. Well, if you imagine everything is somehow different and problem-free for the Russian Federation, then God forbid
          1. Keer
            Keer 22 December 2021 17: 21
            +3
            The wave of messages about the alleged blocking took place on 10-11 November
            Xiaomi disowned blocking their smartphones in Crimea - RIA Novosti Crimea, 14.09.2021/14/14. SIMFEROPOL, September 2021 - RIA Novosti Crimea. Xiaomi said it has not blocked phones in Cuba, Iran, Syria, North Korea, Sudan and Crimea. This is reported by the Global Times with reference to a brand spokesman. XNUMX Sept. XNUMX
          2. sifgame
            sifgame 22 December 2021 19: 31
            0
            Stop spreading fakes
    7. Vend
      Vend 22 December 2021 09: 55
      +3
      laughing laughing Well then, the Russian economy will surely collapse laughing So you really sit and think that they are smoking such a foul place there? What is such stupidity betraying laughing
    8. smart ass
      smart ass 22 December 2021 10: 11
      +3
      Tax to make electronics more expensive for the citizens of the Russian Federation ?!) you are just a genius of economics
    9. Artunis
      Artunis 22 December 2021 10: 27
      0
      Here is the answer from the Ministry of Industry and Trade in all its glory !!! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9OpcC7YjLTU starting from 3 hours 55 minutes (the video is very long, it's not worth watching everything for a long time). Until all this liberal scum from the government is not swept away there is nothing.
    10. El Chuvachino
      El Chuvachino 22 December 2021 12: 38
      +1
      What kind of tax? Ultimately, all this falls on the wallet of the end consumer.
  2. Engineer Schukin
    Engineer Schukin 22 December 2021 06: 43
    +5
    Haha, scared!
    We will definitely not miss such a historic chance for a breakthrough with Yotafon.
    1. akarfoxhound
      akarfoxhound 22 December 2021 07: 44
      +8
      Respect grammar! In the name of our device, you missed the second letter "p" wink
      1. Bshkaus
        Bshkaus 22 December 2021 09: 54
        0
        In the name of our device, you missed the second letter "p"

        Laughing out loud. Deeply admired for your wit, I would not have thought of such a thing
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    3. YOUR
      YOUR 22 December 2021 09: 46
      0
      Do not think that your phrase sounds wrong, that for a breakthrough it is necessary to prohibit foreign affairs. Without this, in any way?
  3. Klingon
    Klingon 22 December 2021 06: 45
    +27
    The news about smartphones has pretty much fun ... laughing banned glamorous fifa to use apple phones ?? The funny thing is that China can also ban the export of iPhones to the United States in retaliation for Huawei. wassat
    1. Ross xnumx
      Ross xnumx 22 December 2021 07: 05
      +15
      For many people, a simple push-button mobile phone without any bells and whistles with the mobile Internet is enough for communication. A powerful battery, an 8 megapixel camera and a player ... Yes, clear settings. And then, behind these smartphones, people stopped seeing the surrounding space: they try to jump onto the front wheel, then they go ahead, like a bulldozer on a solid waste landfill.
      1. sportline
        sportline 22 December 2021 10: 52
        0
        I think Apple stock will crash on today's news. Our market is one of the most Important for the company.
        1. El Chuvachino
          El Chuvachino 22 December 2021 12: 42
          +4
          Our market in the share of Apple is one of the smallest.
    2. astra wild2
      astra wild2 22 December 2021 07: 28
      +7
      My "baby" says: Huawei is widespread in Europe. It is close in quality to the iPhone, but cheaper.
      None of my friends have the latest iPhones, and Samsung and Huawei are full.
      1. Zaurbek
        Zaurbek 22 December 2021 14: 04
        +1
        I will say more ... we have doubled our salaries in 2014 ... and a telephone set worth $ 1000 has become a luxury ... and you won't see top Samsung and Chinese people at such a price ... but they are.
        1. astra wild2
          astra wild2 22 December 2021 19: 57
          0
          I was not interested, my husband was a colleague, I found a Huawei at MTS for 68700 (?) Up to 50 a lot, up to 74000 deficit, but he doesn’t like Samsung
    3. Peter is not the first
      Peter is not the first 22 December 2021 07: 30
      +8
      will ban glamorous fifa to use apple phones

      It's scary for their minds. Previously, they gave for the iPhone, and were glamorous, but after such sanctions they will have to give for rubles, and will become simply "women with low social responsibility."
      In general, this is the best sanction that they could think of behind a puddle. lol
    4. 210ox
      210ox 22 December 2021 08: 49
      +6
      What a bada. They will also prohibit silicone lips, tits ... crying laughing
      1. 2 Level Advisor
        2 Level Advisor 22 December 2021 09: 01
        +1
        by the way, yes .. I suspect that the "spare parts" for this - just from them come laughing
  4. Lord
    Lord 22 December 2021 06: 46
    +11
    Everything is lost
  5. Gardamir
    Gardamir 22 December 2021 06: 48
    +10
    I fully support the American administration. No, not because I dream of invading somewhere, but not having my smartphones in production. The Soviet Union at least produced galoshes ...
    1. Uncle Vanya Susanin
      Uncle Vanya Susanin 22 December 2021 06: 53
      +6
      The USSR produced a lot, and even exported, but the galoshes went badly, only the Arabs took them to walk on the hot sand wink
    2. Sidor Amenpodestovich
      Sidor Amenpodestovich 22 December 2021 07: 01
      +22
      Quote: Gardamir
      but not to have their smartphones in production

      The US doesn't make smartphones either.
      Apple, Motorola - China.
      Google Pixel - Vietnam.

      By the way, Europe does not produce either.
    3. astra wild2
      astra wild2 22 December 2021 07: 09
      +2
      Colleague Gardamir, I ask you: do not repeat V.V.'s not clever jokes
      Even he, after that stupidity, despised the merits of the Soviet Union
      1. vitvit123
        vitvit123 22 December 2021 07: 53
        +8
        All this your colleague does meaningfully, so there is no point in calling him to the opposite ...
      2. Paranoid50
        Paranoid50 22 December 2021 09: 11
        0
        Quote: Astra wild2
        Gardamir, I ask you: do not repeat not clever jokes

        In this case, you are asking for the impossible. yes laughing
        1. astra wild2
          astra wild2 22 December 2021 13: 59
          0
          Are you saying that Gardamir thinks so ?!
      3. Gardamir
        Gardamir 22 December 2021 09: 20
        -6
        The trick is that you truly believe that he is joking. But he sincerely believes that there was not even meat in the USSR.
  6. Al_lexx
    Al_lexx 22 December 2021 06: 49
    +12
    Well, finally, this infection will stop freezing the brains of young people. There are not many of them (brains) left.
    1. samarin1969
      samarin1969 22 December 2021 06: 52
      +9
      Quote: Al_lexx
      Well, finally, this infection will stop freezing the brains of young people. There are not many of them (brains) left.

      good good hi
  7. Evil troll
    Evil troll 22 December 2021 06: 53
    +10
    First, sanctions were piled on Russia, and when she dared not to die to hell, but to start producing her own: "This is not according to the rules of the WTO!" And what other threat is this - to deprive smartphones? Some kind of hysteria of a child for whom a toy was not bought, and not state policy.
    1. Egoza
      Egoza 22 December 2021 07: 33
      +6
      Quote: Angry Troll
      And what other threat is this - to deprive smartphones? Some kind of hysteria of a child for whom a toy was not bought, and not state policy.

      These are unprecedented sanctions! They judge by themselves. For them, the lack of smartphones is a disaster. And Russia will find everything it needs without the United States.
      1. volodimer
        volodimer 22 December 2021 12: 41
        0
        Everyone is fixated on smartphones, but such news is now a holiday in Airbus.
        The American leadership is finishing off Boeing with its own hands. And everything was so bad, and now the Russians can also stop supplying titanium in return. Well, that's all. China and Russia are not competitors in the civilian market.
        The American car industry is almost not represented in our country, so it will pass without any pain at all.
  8. Pankrat25
    Pankrat25 22 December 2021 06: 53
    +12
    This is truly funny news! Considering that the vast majority of smartphones are made in China and South Korea! And the processor of a purely Chinese design for smartphones has recently put the American and Korean on the blades!
    1. Asad
      Asad 22 December 2021 10: 16
      0
      What is this, if not a secret?
      1. Sergey3
        Sergey3 22 December 2021 19: 59
        +2
        The Kirin 980 processor (Huawei's own development) in recent tests is almost on a par with the Snapdragon 855, there are tests where it is better.
        The Apple A12 Bionic is 980% slower in floating point than the Kirin 23, but better in integrated graphics.
        1. Asad
          Asad 23 December 2021 03: 23
          0
          Thank you, I didn’t know.
  9. samarin1969
    samarin1969 22 December 2021 06: 54
    +7
    The "big brother" with the "all-seeing eye" will be in sorrow. But how can you shoot information about movements, preferences, locations, etc. ... ?? bully
  10. your vsr 66-67
    your vsr 66-67 22 December 2021 07: 00
    +4
    Will be banned from supplying smartphones? Let's start making our own! As a last resort, China ...
  11. 75 Sergey
    75 Sergey 22 December 2021 07: 09
    +7
    Yes, smartphones from the United States will not be supplied to us, this is a very tough move.
    Although Tamm also talks about the details of machines, etc. smartphones alone are not enough.
    Of course, we are not going to attack Ukraine, but the fact that NATO will not go into direct confrontation is already good news.
    The only thing is that when Ukraine attacks Russia, at first you will have to surrender their territories for several days in order to record the very fact of the attack.
    1. Vladimir61
      Vladimir61 22 December 2021 07: 45
      +8
      Quote: 75Sergey
      Yes, smartphones from the United States will not be supplied to us, this is a very tough move.
      It's like we forbid supplying them with balalaikas ... laughing
      1. Rusticolus
        Rusticolus 22 December 2021 08: 49
        +6
        Balalaikas and hats with earflaps. Checkmate. And then they will be asked to be taken prisoner. laughing
    2. Lt. Air Force stock
      Lt. Air Force stock 22 December 2021 12: 48
      +1
      Quote: 75Sergey
      Yes, smartphones from the United States will not be supplied to us, this is a very tough move.
      Although Tamm also talks about the details of machines, etc. smartphones alone are not enough.
      Of course, we are not going to attack Ukraine, but the fact that NATO will not go into direct confrontation is already good news.
      The only thing is that when Ukraine attacks Russia, at first you will have to surrender their territories for several days in order to record the very fact of the attack.

      Parts of cars, like cell phones, also come mainly from China, and China is unlikely to restrict exports to Russia. But with airplanes there may be a problem, but here we ourselves were to blame, we didn't have to buy Boeings and airbases.
  12. Nexcom
    Nexcom 22 December 2021 07: 13
    +10
    do not care - China will replace the Yankes: Xiaomi, Huawei, Meizu.
    Korea is - Samsung. They will only rejoice at the departure of the Americans from the Russian market. A holy place is never empty.
    These are glamorous kiso and LADIES let them worry that they will not be able to buy another apple phone.
    1. Bradley
      Bradley 22 December 2021 07: 37
      -13
      The Chinese do not have enough chips for themselves, but here we still have to give? And I am silent about the fact that the chips are outdated.
      Samsung will not get under the sanctions.
      1. Nexcom
        Nexcom 22 December 2021 07: 44
        +9
        For Russia, Saamsung opened an assembly line long ago in Kaluga.
        I don’t know about the Chinese, but I heard that Huawei is going to do the same. Moreover, people from Huawei came to our federal university to improve the qualifications of their specialists. And they just talked about plans for closer cooperation with Russia.
        1. Bradley
          Bradley 22 December 2021 09: 21
          -7
          For Russia, Saamsung opened an assembly line long ago in Kaluga.

          So what?) What will wave them to close the line if asked?

          I don’t know about the Chinese, but I heard that Huawei is going to do the same. Moreover, people from Huawei came to our federal university to improve the qualifications of their specialists. And they just talked about plans for closer cooperation with Russia.

          China has no new chips. Sanctions.
          For them, top-end chips, which are already obsolete in the world.
          If they start trading with us smartphones based on "Kirin" chips, it will be junk, which will soon be difficult for browsers to digest. Yes, they have problems with the new memory (LPDD5).
          Do you need such smartphones, especially for overpricing? Mmm, no.
          1. Orange bigg
            Orange bigg 22 December 2021 10: 09
            +4
            . China has no new chips. Sanctions.


            Seriously or what, and what then do Chinese smartphones Honor (the same Honor 50 on the new SD 778G chip), Xiaomi (Poco, Redmi, Mi all on new chips), Vivo, Oppo, Realme, Huawei, OnePlus work on? Smartphone Huawei Nova 9 and then on the new SD 778G. Although it seems like sanctions.
            Huawei continues to overcome obstacles in the way of its smartphone business, finding new loopholes. Due to restrictions imposed by the US administration, the company does not receive chips from US manufacturers, and due to general problems with components in the market, it cannot produce its own Kirin processors. Nevertheless, another mobile device with an old design is being released, not on Kirin, but on SoC Snapdragon 778G, but with the 5G module disabled, not on Harmony OS, but on EMUI, and without official access to Google services.

            https://www.ixbt.com/mobile/huawei-nova-9-review.html

            OnePlus 9 with new SD 888 chips.
            ... OnePlus today officially unveiled its flagship smartphones OnePlus 9 and OnePlus 9 Pro.


            . Both OnePlus 9 and OnePlus 9 Pro are based on SoC Qualcomm Snapdragon 888. RAM LPDDR5 - 8 or 12 GB, UFS 3.1 flash memory - 128 or 256 GB.

            https://www.ixbt.com/news/2021/03/23/snapdragon-888-120-4500-65-oneplus-9-oneplus-9-pro-hasselblad.html
            These are just a couple of examples. So there are new chips on Chinese smartphones.
            It is foolish to prohibit the supply of American SD chips when there is an alternative in the form of Taiwanese (essentially Chinese) MediaTek chips, which have recently caught up in quality and capabilities with American SD chips, otherwise the market will simply lose American chips and that's it.
          2. sifgame
            sifgame 22 December 2021 10: 41
            +3
            not outdated, but inferior in characteristics. And there is no need to start selling smartphones on these chips and have been selling in Russia for a long time.
        2. aleks.29ru
          aleks.29ru 22 December 2021 11: 12
          0
          Iron is one thing, and whose OS?
          1. Orange bigg
            Orange bigg 22 December 2021 11: 45
            +4
            Quote: aleks.29ru
            Iron is one thing, and whose OS?


            There will be sanctions, there will be its own OS. Huawei sells smartphones running Harmony OS 2.0 in China.
  13. tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 22 December 2021 07: 17
    +14
    What radish has leaked, that we have all the electronics in the Russian Armed Forces collected from smartphones ??? laughing
    1. Nexcom
      Nexcom 22 December 2021 07: 24
      +12
      Yes, yes, yes, aunts sit at the radio factory and solder microchips from smartphones. By the way, why are you handing over strategically important information? lol
      1. tralflot1832
        tralflot1832 22 December 2021 08: 41
        +7
        Yaloko goes to the ICBM.Oh !!! Even got into conversation.
        1. Nexcom
          Nexcom 22 December 2021 08: 46
          +6
          THEN I look after him in queues in the shops - during the campaign, the MO is buying up all the apple phones ...
  14. opposite28
    opposite28 22 December 2021 07: 17
    +3
    But what about Russian people's will eat Apples? fool stop bully
    1. Rusticolus
      Rusticolus 22 December 2021 08: 54
      +8
      Yes, not how. Judging by their appearance, the Ukrainians have already managed to get to theirs Apples. laughing
  15. demo
    demo 22 December 2021 07: 34
    -3
    Yeah.
    The depth of the "flight of thought" is practically the same throughout the world!
    Well, how can a sane person believe in fairy tales that are blown into the ears of all naive citizens.
    I will not talk about how Americans or Ukrainians are brainwashed.
    I will talk about us Russians.
    The one who can be conventionally called biofeedback (do not think that this is the boss, this is a bunker zeroed out storyteller), for 20 years now he has been fooling us with the fact that the Americans just ate our livers, strangled us with sanctions, restrictions, and so on, by and by, other things.
    Against the background of such minor statements, I would like to consider one episode that very few people were interested in.
    The furnace will be about the deal of Rosatom, which acquired the American mines as part of the Canadian Uranium One Inc., whose main assets were uranium deposits in Kazakhstan.
    Then ARMZ, controlled by the state corporation, acquired a 16,6% stake in Uranium One in exchange for a 50% stake in the uranium mining project at Karatau jointly with Kazatomprom. In 2010, Uranium One acquired the Willow Creek uranium mine in Wyoming in the United States. In June of the same year, Uranium One received 50% and 49% in the Kazakh uranium deposits Akbastau and Zarechnoye. In exchange, ARMZ increased its stake in Uranium One to 51%. In 2013, ARMZ consolidated 100% in Uranium One, the company delisted on the exchange and transferred to the direct management of Rosatom.
    Well, what's wrong with that, many will ask?
    And here's what.
    America consumes our uranium 235. But it gets it from Russia.
    Is it important that it comes from Russia?
    Judge for yourself.
    40% of the US East Coast's power generation comes from nuclear power plants.
    Which work on Russian enriched uranium 235. The raw materials for which come to the Russian Federation from mines not only in Kazakhstan, but also in Canada, USA, Australia, etc.
    Let's imagine for a moment that we are really in a state of confrontation with the United States.
    One hand movement (export ban) and the East Coast is de-energized.
    And then a chain reaction. There is no overflow of capacities as in Russia in the USA. The networks are all private. Poorly integrated among themselves.
    Then everything will fall down like a house of cards.
    Consequences? CATASTROPHIC!
    And I know a lot of such examples - "struggle to the last drop of blood".
    And our people continue to believe the primitive fairy tales from the mouth of BOS.
  16. Bradley
    Bradley 22 December 2021 07: 35
    -16
    They may ban the import of smartphones not only from Apple, but also from many other brands that also use Qualcomm processors and others.
    It seemed, so what? And this is a very strong blow to the market.
    But let's go further: OS - Android, Windows. This will be the finish line. We do not have our own OS. All there is is Linux-based crafts. Cool, yeah.
    What's next? PC accessories. Elbrus think will pull the servers of many offices? Sberbank has already abandoned Elbrus, insufficient performance. Remained on their Zeons.
    Many machines, devices and much more will not work without OS support. Well, of course, they won't work without components either.
    Even an MRI machine won't work without an OS. And how many lives do such devices save?
    And yes, mostly they are not bought, but rented. Those. many MRI machines will leave hospitals.
    Software, OS, components - their value is difficult to exaggerate.

    So I wouldn't laugh.
    Remember how everyone laughed at the sanctions in 2014? I'm not funny with them.
    1. aszzz888
      aszzz888 22 December 2021 07: 53
      +7

      Bradley (Kojiro Sasaki)
      Today, 07:35 May be banned .... Remember how everyone laughed at the sanctions in 2014? I'm not funny with them.
      Keep on crying.
      1. Bradley
        Bradley 22 December 2021 08: 15
        -9
        Keep on crying.

        Do I need to rejoice? Why? I spend more and get less (as a percentage) money compared to 2014.
        How much did the fish cost then, and how much is it now?
    2. tantalum
      tantalum 22 December 2021 08: 12
      +7
      All our problems are due to the fact that we are trying to be holier than the Pope and play by someone else's rules, and even with shullers. And we must take an example from the great Chinese "imposing" on all their "copyrights". If it’s not clear why we don’t have enough intelligence to invent it ourselves, then copy and produce.
      1. Bradley
        Bradley 22 December 2021 08: 21
        -7
        All our problems are due to the fact that we are trying to be holier than the Pope and play by someone else's rules, and even with shullers. And we must take an example from the great Chinese "imposing" on all their "copyrights". If it’s not clear why we don’t have enough intelligence to invent it ourselves, then copy and produce.


        To impose your own rules, you have to be equal at least.

        But no one forbids playing by someone else's rules and bypassing them at a "convenient moment".
        Everyone plays like that.

        By the way, we copy. Today we can produce in-house for SSD. But the controllers cannot.
        1. tantalum
          tantalum 22 December 2021 17: 12
          0
          [/ quote] To impose your own rules, you must be equal at least [quote]
          To impose your own rules, you need WILL, and not to scare every screech from abroad having a bunch of levers of pressure, including the most powerful Armed Forces.
    3. Pankrat25
      Pankrat25 23 December 2021 07: 04
      +1
      The same Samsung has not sold phones in the Russian Federation with an American processor for a long time, there is a processor of their own design or a Taiwanese media library.
  17. FoBoss_V
    FoBoss_V 22 December 2021 07: 46
    +3
    Scared a hedgehog with a bare ass laughing laughing
  18. Split
    Split 22 December 2021 07: 53
    +5
    Yeah and will ban rockets from launching, eating, drinking and breathing air drinks
  19. riwas
    riwas 22 December 2021 07: 56
    +3
    The US administration announced that in the event of a "Russian invasion of Ukraine", it will impose a ban on the export of smartphones to the Russian Federation

    Russia and the US have very weak economic ties, so US economic sanctions against us cannot be strong in principle. But we can ban American business in Russia. Everything you need can be taken in China.
    1. 2 Level Advisor
      2 Level Advisor 22 December 2021 09: 12
      +3
      study the question a little better ..
      At the end of 2021, trade between Russia and the United States may reach record volumes, said Deputy Prime Minister Alexei Overchuk after his visit to Washington, quoted by TASS. The Deputy Prime Minister clarified that cars, aircraft, electronics are mainly imported to Russia from the United States, metals and raw materials in general are exported from Russia.
  20. unaha
    unaha 22 December 2021 08: 08
    -6
    Funny comments. The vast majority of smartphones with android, which is google, which in turn is an American company. At best, almost all smarts will lose some of their functions. At worst - okirpichatsya. There are, of course, alternatives, and such a step on the part of the US administration will be simply stupid in the long run.
    As for other products, it is very rash to rely on Asian manufacturers - almost everywhere there is something with American intellectual property.
    Shapkozakidatelskie moods apparently among people for whom the already running inflation is not enough and acutely waiting for a supplement.
    1. Rusticolus
      Rusticolus 22 December 2021 09: 09
      +7
      there is something almost everywhere with American intellectual property.
      For almost all American intellectual property, China has long ago put the device in place. Harmony OS is quite able to do without Google at all, and does not cough. Only now Google itself has requested back, demanding that the sanctions be lifted from the Huawei. And then the train leaves without them.
      1. Nexcom
        Nexcom 22 December 2021 09: 30
        +4
        As far as I know, Google services and Google navigation with maps and other things are also prohibited in the Emirates. Yes, they sell smartphones on Android, but without Google services. Skype is prohibited. Until if they catch a turm. And nothing, they live and do not worry. And if someone doesn’t have a YouTube at all, well, this is probably a clinic.

        PS, that's probably the idle bloggers who will howl if the pipe is blocked ...
      2. unaha
        unaha 22 December 2021 12: 57
        0
        Quote: Rusticolus
        For almost all American intellectual property, China has long ago put the device

        I put it so much that after the sanctions huawei was first forced to switch to another axis. Then completely withdraw from the production of smartphones. And now he is negotiating the sale of the server business.
        In terms of revenues, at the end of June 2021, sales were $ 49 billion, compared with $ 70 billion at the same time in 2020.
        Excellent "put with the device".
        1. Rusticolus
          Rusticolus 22 December 2021 13: 27
          0
          Leaving the Windows phone market is not the same thing as leaving the smartphone market altogether. Huawei's management just claims that sales of their smartphones are not only growing, but in the near future they will become market leaders. With servers, they probably want to crank up the same scheme as with honor, supposedly selling them, but to themselves.
          1. unaha
            unaha 22 December 2021 13: 38
            +1
            I do not know what Huawei's management says, but statistics for 20 years show a decrease in Huawei shipments by 42,4% and a decrease in its market share to 8,4% from 19%.
            1. Rusticolus
              Rusticolus 22 December 2021 14: 19
              0
              And it says, there was a recession because of the crown, like everyone else, and the sanctions. But now they are recovering at an accelerated pace, and are not going to slow down.
  21. Romanenko
    Romanenko 22 December 2021 08: 13
    +1
    That's good, soldering irons for weakened brains "iPhones" will not be imported, which means their smartphones will appear, and China will not let the market fall apart
    1. evgen1221
      evgen1221 22 December 2021 09: 52
      -5
      Your own will not appear and do not dream, because the axiom is that it is not profitable to produce anything in the country, because the WTO, IMF and braces. Therefore, only Chinese smarts Russian stickers are spanked in China and proud.
  22. rocket757
    rocket757 22 December 2021 08: 15
    +5
    As it turns out, the United States is ready to impose a ban on certain exports to Russia. In particular, it is stated that Russia "may be banned from supplying smartphones, as well as components for the automotive and aviation industries."
    Smartphones, figs with them, they are all Chinese ... to overpay for labels, let those especially inspired suffer.
    But electronics products, albeit made somewhere under the license of minke whales, are serious, alas.
    We need to rebuild our electronics industry !!!
    However, experts note that in the modern world, mechanisms have already been developed to bypass almost any sanctions.
    You can get around, but often with a noticeable loss of functionality and quality ... alas, alas, for the most critical positions, you have to do your own thing.
    Those. problems need to be solved ... although, it had to start doing it the day before!
  23. Vasily Onischuk
    Vasily Onischuk 22 December 2021 08: 26
    0
    And somewhere in Beijing Comrade SI opened champagne. Well this is what kind of joy. Well, then. What smartphones will they ban to transport to Russia? IPhones on the Russian market have long been from China.
  24. APASUS
    APASUS 22 December 2021 08: 36
    +4
    The US administration announced that in the event of a "Russian invasion of Ukraine", it will impose a ban on the export of smartphones to the Russian Federation

    I will cry for a week ............
  25. Doctor
    Doctor 22 December 2021 08: 39
    +3
    In 2020, 4 million iPhones were imported to Russia.
    Smartphones of all brands sold 30 million.

    Just for information. hi
    1. Rusticolus
      Rusticolus 22 December 2021 09: 15
      +5
      Of these, 99.9% are Chinese.
      The same, just for information.
      Although the figure is 100 times overstated, we can write off this for ordinary advertising. By the way, American-made iPhones are imported into Russia only illegally, according to gray schemes, since they do not have a certificate. This is the same note.
      1. Zaurbek
        Zaurbek 22 December 2021 09: 24
        0
        Chinese without Androyd will also become worse. In varying degrees of blocking in different ways.
        1. Rusticolus
          Rusticolus 22 December 2021 09: 29
          +1
          An iPhone with an Android? belay
          Yes, even the Chinese haven’t figured it out yet.
          Probably.
          1. Nexcom
            Nexcom 22 December 2021 09: 34
            +1
            They just figured it out: to sell outwardly similar devices with an Android outwardly similar to iOS.
            1. Rusticolus
              Rusticolus 22 December 2021 09: 38
              +1
              It means that they have already put it on. The fact that to create a shell outwardly similar, and even more so a body, is not at all difficult. And in the giblets, glamorous kitties will not be peeling anyway. They'll do it anyway, iPhone, and okay.
          2. Zaurbek
            Zaurbek 22 December 2021 10: 14
            +1
            Just Android will get up .... but on the contrary, it is unlikely ... iOS is strongly sharpened for its own hardware, so it works relatively perfectly. And Android is one, and iron, who just does not do it with different screens and characteristics ...
            1. Orange bigg
              Orange bigg 22 December 2021 10: 37
              +1
              Quote: Zaurbek
              Just Android will get up .... but on the contrary, it is unlikely ... iOS is strongly sharpened for its own hardware, so it works relatively perfectly. And Android is one, and iron, who just does not do it with different screens and characteristics ...


              Relatively ideal? Well, well. It is no worse than a Samsung budget employee for 10 kopecks. And in general, only models starting from the iPhone 12 can be considered normal smartphones from Apple. Everything that was previously the bottom with outdated IPS screens.
              It is completely normal that errors appear in the operating system and can be caused by various reasons. The first one is that they are general failures that affect all users or a significant part of them. This is caused by poor optimization by Apple and is usually more common in early versions of the system (see iOS 15.0).

              Other crashes are caused by the accumulation of unnecessary files, this is usually not a direct user error. This usually happens when the device has not been restored for a long time, and the versions were updated one above the other, appearing even more often when new ones. iPhone models are customized with drag and drop backups of previous phones.


              IOS Issues Still Unresolved
              Here are the issues reported in the current version of iOS 15 that do not have a general solution and are likely subject to a future update.

              Excessive battery consumption: this does not happen in all cases, but there are a large number of users who, with different iPhone models, report that they have enough battery power since the update. This is usually a classic early version problem.
              Dimming on unlock: This is an issue reported on some iPhone 13 Pro and 13 Pro Max that causes the screen to dim slightly in brightness when the unlock button is pressed for a few milliseconds before it returns to normal.
              The storage is full without being it: it can happen that, even with enough space of 10, 15 and even 20 GB, the iPhone will show that the storage is almost full. This happens on all types of iPhones, although it doesn't seem to cause problems with continuing to download apps or saving content such as photos and videos.

              Coverage Issues: There are also reports of some areas where there was generally good coverage in versions such as iOS 14, after an update a lower signal was received (no cases were confirmed with telcos).
              Unlock Face ID with Apple Watch: Masked iPhone unlocking with Apple Watch cannot be activated on some iPhone 13. This feature is expected to be addressed in future updates.
              CarPlay Crashes: Some devices are having problems playing Apple Music content or not being able to connect directly to the car.
              How can you try to fix them
              The bugs mentioned above have been added for now because they don't have a solution, although there are some that can be resolved. completely formatting the iPhone. This is a case of an iPhone 13 Pro screen brightness bug that has been resolved this way in some cases, although the truth is, it hasn't been effective in other cases.

              Another option that is left for you is to wait until it is resolved in the next version of iOS. And you ask yourself, when will this solution appear? And the truth is, it is not yet known when the update will be released, although there has been leaked information that iOS 15.0.1 may arrive this week, and with it a final fix for some of those glitches.

              https://itigic.com/ru/iphone-glitches-with-ios-15-how-to-fix-them/
              1. Zaurbek
                Zaurbek 22 December 2021 10: 45
                0
                In general, IOS is better adapted both for a mobile phone and for a screen and applications too ... because. one manufacturer of devices, screens with the same proportion, applications are adapted (oblige developers) to screens and brains of iPhones ........ I have a Sberbank online, in Samsung, the inscriptions on the buttons are cut off due to a discrepancy in the screen format, for example. Only on Samsug there are three devices with different screen proportions ....... but there are only one application and one android.
            2. Rusticolus
              Rusticolus 22 December 2021 10: 41
              0
              What's the point of messing with iOS at all? What is there in it, from a technical point of view, that an android-like OS cannot? And pulling an apple skin on an android is not a problem at all. And if you also work with usability, making it similar, then 99% of apple users will not notice that it is an android. I’m already silent about my favorite Chinese version, it’s stupid to rip everything off and call it FullApple.
              1. Orange bigg
                Orange bigg 22 December 2021 10: 53
                0
                iPhone positions itself as a brand for the successful, and everyone wants to look successful. Pure psychology. Just throws dust in the eyes. Although their hardware is always powerful. But fig what to install. Many programs are paid. There is more freedom on Android. There is an IOS 15 program in the Play Market that can be installed on any Android. Everything will be like on an iPhone. .Including animation.
                1. Rusticolus
                  Rusticolus 22 December 2021 10: 56
                  0
                  This is what we are talking about. It's just that I have never been interested in converting an android into an iPhone. But technically I understand that it is not that difficult. And if initially a separate model is allocated for this case, then everything will become even simpler and even similar, to the point of indistinguishability. At least for non-advanced users, of whom the apple is a little less sensitive than everything.
      2. Doctor
        Doctor 22 December 2021 09: 38
        0
        Of these, 99.9% are Chinese.
        The same, just for information.
        Although the figure is 100 times overstated, we can write off this for ordinary advertising. By the way, American-made iPhones are imported into Russia only illegally, according to gray schemes, since they do not have a certificate. This is the same note.

        I agree. I mean that we will not be lost. laughing
  26. Hog
    Hog 22 December 2021 09: 08
    +2
    Well, how can I survive the absence of a "stub" in stores)))
    Each time their statements are more delusional and delusional.
  27. Zaurbek
    Zaurbek 22 December 2021 09: 22
    +1
    Let's move on to push-button phones .... There is still a question who will be worse. Through a smartphone, Americans have a stream of data about a person and can transmit a stream of data to him (from advertising to fooling) .... and here - the end of such a channel.
  28. vadimtt
    vadimtt 22 December 2021 09: 31
    +1
    Found a sore spot! laughing
    How many tick-nyashek, and especially tick-horror, will it strangle? wassat
  29. evgen1221
    evgen1221 22 December 2021 09: 47
    -1
    Android who serves and where is the head? They want it and give it up, it's not particularly difficult for them.
  30. kebzuref
    kebzuref 22 December 2021 10: 06
    +1
    So what, we will buy from China, China has dozens of brands of smartphones, the most famous are Xiaomi, Huawei, Realme, Honor and so on, on the contrary, this is great, we will not pay the downs from the USA for their smartphones
  31. Victor Shershnev
    Victor Shershnev 22 December 2021 10: 20
    +1
    But they will help the development of our electronics industry. [[[
  32. prior
    prior 22 December 2021 10: 43
    0
    will introduce a ban on the export of smartphones to the Russian Federation

    even the hair on my bald skull stood on end from the possibility of imposing such terrible sanctions ... belay
    To be or not to be ?!
    Is life possible without American smartphones - that is the question? what
    Talented. Even Kiev clowns are resting .....
  33. Lonely loner
    Lonely loner 22 December 2021 11: 26
    +2
    These alternatively gifted, decided to shoot both of their legs ?!
  34. Tektor
    Tektor 22 December 2021 11: 46
    0
    The question is very specific: why does Bidon know for sure that "Russia will invade Bukra within four weeks"? This can only be known by those who know that Russia will definitely not be able not to come. Those. a provocation operation is planned with the use of terrible means.
  35. shtatsov
    shtatsov 22 December 2021 12: 30
    0
    Quote: Wend
    laughing laughing Well then, the Russian economy will surely collapse laughing So you really sit and think that they are smoking such a foul place there? What is such stupidity betraying laughing

    Do not ask! Do not promote hard drugs!)))
  36. TermNachTer
    TermNachTer 22 December 2021 13: 12
    +3
    Yes, Russia will not last long without iPhones))) I have been using "ksenia" for ten years already, already the third, I am quite satisfied. My daughter wanted to give her old iPhone - 6, to which I reasonably replied: "And what the hell is he to me?"
  37. saygon66
    saygon66 22 December 2021 13: 30
    +4
    - laughing Yeah ... Russia is gone! Lovers of iPhones and the failed owners of these gadgets who have joined them will commit a coup d'etat! Crowds of iPhone users will take the post office, railway station, telegraph office, internet cafe and shaverma stall by storm!
    - What to do ... what to do ?! fool
    1. Shahno
      Shahno 22 December 2021 13: 37
      0
      The sanctions on business are aimed ... We didn’t think that they knew who to put pressure on. And you are all about the revolution.
      1. saygon66
        saygon66 22 December 2021 13: 41
        0
        laughing How could it be otherwise, the most respectable ?! Such a loss ... such a loss! How can this go unpunished ?! Not! Only fight! Bring the iPhones back!
  38. hohohol
    hohohol 22 December 2021 13: 40
    +2
    From the Chinese side, stormy and prolonged applause was heard, turning into a standing ovation.
  39. Lena Petrova
    Lena Petrova 22 December 2021 13: 43
    -1
    "Last year we surveyed American companies doing business in Russia, and they made $ 92 billion in profits here. This year, this figure has grown to $ 96,2 billion."
    (c) President of the American Chamber of Commerce Alexis Rodzianko
    That's all there is to know. You can start with tobacco companies, as the most harmful to health and the least necessary for life.
  40. single
    single 22 December 2021 14: 00
    0
    "will impose a ban on exports" ... in the title. Is it bad with cases?
  41. skobars
    skobars 22 December 2021 14: 24
    +2
    Yes the hell needs a hyped iPhone. With android I can do whatever I want, unlike Pend's shit. It is in the price only at the ponting parties, those who will definitely sell their homeland for the crap of mattress makers.
    1. Nexcom
      Nexcom 22 December 2021 14: 49
      +1
      Exactly. Even without getting a root on Android, you can customize a lot for yourself via ADB. There is nothing like this in iPhones - there the user is squeezed within the framework of what Apple came up with. Everything else - no way! In general, Apple is for those who need to splurge and show off or for those who don't want to bother with customization once again.
      The programmers themselves do the mods of the programs - 4 pda is full of them for all sorts of programs. In general, Android is a space for imagination for those who are not fixated on the brand.

      PS For fans of show-off, there are also luxury Vertu and others - and also on Android. Therefore, if Apple is banned from selling in Russia, I will definitely not cry.

      Threat And Apple's scam when they were caught that they artificially programmatically slow down their old devices in performance so that the user quickly came to the store for a new one - well, this is in general, crooks are crooks. Apple then broke off that it was doing this for less battery consumption. Caring laughing ... At the same time, they did not do this on new devices. So here ...
      1. Reserve buildbat
        Reserve buildbat 23 December 2021 19: 46
        -1
        In fairness, it should be noted that (I myself was surprised when I found out) for working on Instagram (who really works there, and not looking at chicks), an apple phone is more convenient and more multifunctional. Although, I think this is also temporary. It's just that one of my friends works on the Internet and Instagram is one of the working tools. So she swore that she had to buy an apple phone for 70 to work, which is absolutely unhealthy.
  42. GAndr
    GAndr 22 December 2021 14: 46
    +1
    Well, a holy place is never empty, I think the Chinese and Koreans will only be glad ...
    The next - I'm going to frostbite my grandmother's ears.
  43. SKIF555
    SKIF555 22 December 2021 17: 01
    0
    We are being asked ... ... to come to their war!
  44. unhappy
    unhappy 23 December 2021 07: 00
    0
    Ooohhhhh, wider than the universe, my grief (s)
    The iPhone was not brought to the store, what to do then! What a woe belay
  45. Reserve buildbat
    Reserve buildbat 23 December 2021 19: 42
    -1
    Only fans of apple cores will suffer from the ban on the supply of smartphones, the supply of components is worse, but even then, the car originals are contacted only while the car is under warranty. How many of these do we have? But if, in response, we cut off the supply of aircraft components and titanium to the mattresses, they will curl up.