In Moscow, an unknown person opened fire at the MFC, there are victims

On 1st Novokuzminskaya Street in Moscow, an unknown person opened fire at the Ryazansky MFC at employees and visitors. The girl wounded by the shooter, who decided to visit the center that day, died.

In addition to the girl, there is a second victim of the perpetrator. This is an employee of the center. Several other people were injured, including a 10-year-old girl. There was information that the child could not be saved.

Shooting by the criminal was carried out from a short-barreled weapons (pistol). The model is not reported.

It is not yet known what was the reason for the act of the 45-year-old man who opened the gun at the MFC. Eyewitnesses say the conflict arose over demands for a man to wear a medical mask. Allegedly, this is what caused an attack of aggression.

The offender was detained by law enforcement officers. Now they are conducting investigative measures at the scene. His identity has already been established, but Moscow law enforcement officers do not disclose this data.

Moscow Mayor Sergei Sobyanin expressed his condolences to the families of the victims:

A tragedy struck at the Ryazansky MFC. As a result of the shooting of an unknown person, two people were killed, three were injured. The killer was detained. I offer my condolences to the victims and the families of the victims. Doctors are doing everything possible to help the wounded.

According to some reports, the shooting at the people turned out to be a former serviceman, a retired lieutenant colonel. After the arrest, according to some sources, the man told the police that "there is a worldwide conspiracy around." Some media outlets claim that in addition to a pistol, the man had a knife with him.

Comments

[Flooding]

Tear off the hands of a rabid inhuman.

It is infinitely sorry for both the killed girl and the wounded girl.

[Fungus]

The girl is alive!

[Flooding]

Quote: Fungus

The girl is alive!

God forbid
where they write about one killed, where about two

[The black]

Eyewitnesses say the conflict arose over demands for a man to wear a medical mask. Allegedly, this is what caused an attack of aggression.

The enraged dogs need to be shot. I have no other words. Tomorrow this body will justify itself, perhaps repent, but you will not be able to bring people back. Absolutely innocent people. Why the relatives of the dead, the wounded, why we all have to feed this scum in prison. Yes, murder and murder are different, you can go for it for a loved one. But this is the case when there are no excuses, which means that there should be only one sentence - the death penalty.

[Tatyana]

It's a strange thing, but on December 3.12.2021, XNUMX, I witnessed a similar case in the Okay grocery supermarket in St. Petersburg. True, the case was without the use of weapons. Namely.

A young man of 30-35 years old basically demanded from cashiers that cashiers serve him in the absence of a mask on his face. The cashiers flatly refused. For serving customers without masks, the administration of cashiers' shops is fined.
Then, at the same time, he sabotaged sales for both store employees and customers, while defending his turn in serving customers with cashiers, not letting other customers go ahead to pay for the purchased goods - and in two cash desks at once!
He frayed everyone's nerves.

The store security called the police.

He called the decree of the government of the Russian Federation on the mandatory wearing of protective masks in the store and in other public places FASCISM.
He did not smell of booze, he looked decent, but once he swore obscenities at the outraged customers, whom he blocked the road to the checkout.

He categorically refused to offer him to wear a mask for free. And even he himself also called the police.

As a result, the police arrived, watched the video from the scene at 2 ticket offices. handcuffed him - and took him to the police station.

In general, the impression was created that anti-vaccineers are deliberately aggravating the political situation in the country.

[fiberboard]

Was it impossible to solve the problem by simply breaking the face? Then once a couple of months ago, one in the store, standing in line, began to pump the driver's license without a mask, but did not take into account the fact that people were standing in the evening after work, some from the mine. In general, they just threw out of the queue and that's it.

[Tatyana]

Quote: fiberboard

Was it impossible to solve the problem by simply breaking the muzzle?

The incident occurred late in the evening at 22:00 - there were already few people in the store at that time, and mostly only women cashiers and women customers. And the middle-aged man is a security guard.
If it had been after work - until 20 o'clock, then the bully would definitely not even swagger.

In addition, it seems that he had a partner who agreed with him and filmed it all on the phone.
I even thought that this guy is a provocateur-boozer - perhaps just some kind of blogger. This can be easy too!

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Tatiana

In general, the impression was created that anti-vaccineers are deliberately aggravating the political situation in the country.

Yes, it seems that they are escalating the situation, and not everyone likes your words even here.
Although I did two vaccinations, today I refused to go to the third booster. I thought for a week, but today I have matured.

[Ilya Nikitich]

Quote: tihonmarine

Although I did two vaccinations, today I refused to go to the third booster. I thought for a week, but today I have matured.

[Center]
And they say urinotherapy helps a lot.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Ilya Nikitich

And they say urinotherapy helps a lot.

They all went with their zukhenweyamya, I’ll follow my grandfather’s recipe, pour a glass under a cucumber, it won’t get any worse, but I don’t know better.

[Ural resident]

Quote: Tatiana

It's a strange thing, but on December 3.12.2021, XNUMX, I witnessed a similar case in the Okay grocery supermarket in St. Petersburg. True, the case was without the use of weapons. Namely.

A young man of 30-35 years old basically demanded from cashiers that cashiers serve him in the absence of a mask on his face. The cashiers flatly refused. For serving customers without masks, the administration of cashiers' shops is fined.
Then, at the same time, he sabotaged sales for both store employees and customers, while defending his turn in serving customers with cashiers, not letting other customers go ahead to pay for the purchased goods - and in two cash desks at once!
He frayed everyone's nerves.

The store security called the police.

He called the decree of the government of the Russian Federation on the mandatory wearing of protective masks in the store and in other public places FASCISM.
He did not smell of booze, he looked decent, but once he swore obscenities at the outraged customers, whom he blocked the road to the checkout.

He categorically refused to offer him to wear a mask for free. And even he himself also called the police.

As a result, the police arrived, watched the video from the scene at 2 ticket offices. handcuffed him - and took him to the police station.

In general, the impression was created that anti-vaccineers are deliberately aggravating the political situation in the country.

Not a blogger by any chance? There are a lot of such provocateurs now, they are filming in parallel and have their own channel

[Clear]

Quote: Resident of the Urals

Not a blogger by any chance? There are a lot of such provocateurs now, they are filming in parallel and have their own channel

Well, of course they are. Trivial making money in spite of the victims and damage to others. This, along with dangerous driving in a car ... they shoot, gain thousands and millions of views, and advertisers conclude contracts with them ... and money in their pockets. To ... flatten you! The killers.

[Papazen]

The likelihood that this is a provocation by supporters of vaccination is no less. You can make this case a pretext for putting pressure on those who disagree.

[Nazar]

Tatyana - I in no way justify the brawler in the store, especially the shooter, but what is interesting - find a recording of a festive concert on the police day on the Internet - you will see a full hall. chock-full, no dignity. distances sit shoulder to shoulder and not a single mask on them, and so the whole is not a short concert - this is how to understand - eh? The same thing a few days before the police a concert was given for the customs officers - and everything is exactly the same there, a crowd of "respected people" and all without masks. Are masks only required for "cattle"? With this approach, it is not surprising that for the requirement to wear a mask they will soon beat the face or even shoot, no one wants to consider themselves a "cattle" - how can "them" be without a mask, but I don't, well, well ....

[Tatyana]

Quote: Nazar

interestingly - find a recording of a festive concert on the day of the police on the Internet - you will see a full hall. chock-full, no dignity. distances sit shoulder to shoulder and not a single mask on them, and so the whole is not a short concert - this is how to understand - eh? The same thing a few days before the police a concert was given for the customs officers - and everything is exactly the same there, a crowd of "respected people" and all without masks.

So they are in the police absolutely everything with their wives and children - without fail - VACCINED for a long time !!! They have NO violation of the order of the government of the Russian Federation!

[Nazar]

Tatyana - Why don't vaccinated people need to wear a mask? Where is it spelled out - huh? Then maybe that brawler was also vaccinated and, in your opinion, did not need a mask either? Or can only policemen behave like that? A vaccinated person can also get sick. let it be less difficult, but still at the same time he will become a carrier of the infection. So here everyone should be on an equal footing - OR ALL MASKS. or anyone. and if you start to divide into "clean" and not "clean". how do you do it. then such excesses will occur more and more often, then in a minibus a girl without a mask was beaten, then on the contrary, a scumbag without a mask began to shoot. This is done on purpose. to turn people against each other?

[Tatyana]

At first. The brawler was not in police uniform. And he said that he was also not vaccinated.
And secondly. The police officers at the arrest of the brawler in the store were wearing protective medical masks.
TOTAL. For each case, the police have their own job description and rule.

Igor! What are you trying to achieve in this case?
There is no need to arrange your "state" in the state! For this will already be an anti-government provocation and ANARCHY!

[Nazar]

Tatyana - Are you pretending or really do not understand what I mean? There is no such norm. that masks should only be worn by those who are not vaccinated. NO! On the contrary, everyone should wear masks, and the policemen at the concert insolently spit on all these norms and this was shown on TV all over the country. People see everything, hence the excesses - how is it possible for "them" and why can't we?

[Rusticolus]

On the contrary, everyone should wear masks, and the policemen at the concert insolently spit on all these norms and this was shown on TV all over the country.

I will clarify. A police officer has the right not to wear a uniform outside his office hours. But not wearing a uniform does not mean that he stops being a police officer. Well, this is so in theory. In practice, even wearing a uniform means little. They believe that the laws were not written for them. They are the law themselves, as they want to be so.

[PROXOR]

AND WHAT?! Both the vaccinated and the vaccinated can get sick.

[Flank]

Quote: Nazar

search the Internet for a recording of a festive concert on the day of the police - you will see a full hall. chock-full, no dignity. distances sit shoulder to shoulder and not a single mask

Lord, find a recording of Kipelov's recent concert with his Aria, find at least one in a mask there and calm down already.

[Shkodnik65]

Nazar, there are nuances here: the fact that a person does not put on a mask at the checkout, and even demands that he be served in this form is a pure provocation, because sellers are actually fined if the buyer does not have a mask at the checkout. Any decent person or just a person with brains in his head and not in his back understands that he substitutes the innocent - the seller. Cutting down on this hype is despicable. Well, in the concert hall - this is a completely different "song", this is a question for the organizers, no hype, if anything.

[Nazar]

Shkodnik65 - Regarding the brawler in the store, I completely agree with you, but the demonstrative absence of masks at the concert shown on TV all over the country is also a provocation. Why "them" can be in a public place without masks, but I can't?

[Shkodnik65]

Nazar, well, I, as it were, did not write what they can, I wrote that this is a completely different song The post was about the store. It is written about him. One clearly hyped, and at the expense of an innocent seller, while others just sat on their chairs. In my opinion, the difference is obvious. As for the question of how legal and illegal it is, I can’t say anything, I don’t know. Logically, it is not legal. Only after all we have that, the law - that the tongue. But, as I wrote above, this is a completely different story.

[PROXOR]

GIVE YOU A FAT MINUS FOR ANTIVAXERS! This has nothing to do with it.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Black

The enraged dogs need to be shot. I have no other words.

Something recently abandoned dogs divorced.

[Lara Croft]

Quote: tihonmarine

Quote: Black

The enraged dogs need to be shot. I have no other words.

Something recently abandoned dogs divorced.

Or careless owners ...

[The black]

Dear Tatiana. In my opinion, the case described by you and this situation are ABSOLUTELY different. He is a vaccineer, an antivacciner - what's the difference. He killed innocent people, he injured a child. ... In my opinion, this is a death sentence.

In general, the impression was created that anti-vaccineers are aggravating the political situation in the country.

Well, what does the desire to be vaccinated or vice versa have to do with this case. What if he shot someone who came without a mask? Did it somehow justify him? HE IS A KILLER !!!

[Alex777]

The pretext for the shooting was the requirement of the guard to wear a mask.
A retired lieutenant colonel took out a combat, unregistered Glock, killed a guard and a woman.
The rest of the victims of the shooting, thank God, are alive.
The shooter was detained by an unarmed policeman who happened to be in the building when he was already leaving along the street ...

[fif21]

Quote: Alex777

The pretext for the shooting was the requirement of the guard to wear a mask.

Are you sure about that? I have other information.

Quote: Alex777

got a combat, unregistered Glock,

The PSSC M22 Austria is a small bore version of the Glock pistol.
The article is 50% fake.

[Tatyana]

Quote: Black

Dear Tatiana. In my opinion, the case described by you and this situation are ABSOLUTELY different. He is a vaccineer, an antivacciner - what's the difference. He killed innocent people, he injured a child. ... In my opinion, this is a death sentence.

In general, the impression was created that anti-vaccineers are aggravating the political situation in the country.

Well, what does the desire to be vaccinated or vice versa have to do with this case. What if he shot someone who came without a mask? Did it somehow justify him? HE IS A KILLER !!!

What makes you think that I am justifying the murderer ?! God be with you !!! I didn't even have such a thought!
I'm talking about a TREND that has emerged in the country! Or did you not notice it?
It is written in the article:

Eyewitnesses claim that the conflict arose over the requirement for a man to wear a medical mask. Allegedly, this is what caused an attack of aggression.

[alekseykabanets]

Quote: Tatiana

I'm talking about a TREND that has emerged in the country! Or did you not notice it?

Tatyana, well, explain to me in simple terms, why should I, for example, wear a mask if I do not have a cough, and the mask does not save from COVID? That is, whether a person with COVID wears a mask or not, he can still infect others. Whether I wear a mask or not, I can still get COVID. In addition, being in a mask for a long time is dangerous to health.
PS I do not justify the murderer in any way, he killed innocent people, you cannot return their lives.

[Tatyana]

Quote: aleksejkabanets

Tatyana, well, explain to me in simple terms, why should I, for example, wear a mask if I do not have a cough, and the mask does not save from COVID? That is, whether a person with COVID wears a mask or not, he can still infect others. Whether I wear a mask or not, I can still get COVID.

Yes, you can get covid, but you will receive less infectious dose than without a mask. Tested in practice. Namely.

When the coronavirus-19 pandemic began, masks were in great shortage. Since I sew myself, in accordance with all the rules, I sewed my family and friends 8 masks in 4 layers of cotton material, which can be washed.
In the mask - on the bridge of the nose - I made an insert for the metal flexible strip so that the mask on the bridge of the nose could be pressed more tightly to the face. As a flexible metal spacer, I used clamps to wrap the bread so it doesn't stale. The idea was taken from the Internet.
However, I did not have time to sew on such a pad to my friends, because they were in a hurry to go on vacation with the whole family - mom, dad and two daughters - to travel around the country in their own car. The wife said that she would finish it all herself. but she never did. She doesn't have a sewing machine, she doesn't have time, and she doesn't know how to sew with her hands.

As a result, they all contracted coronavirus-19 on the trip and all had a mild form of covid on their feet. It turned out later. when they decided to get tested for coronavirus-19 upon their return from vacation. At the same time, we were very surprised.
The doctor said that they were just lucky with the masks. That just because they were wearing my protective mask in 4 layers, the viral dose that got into them (got in) turned out to be insignificant for all of them than if they were without a mask, and everyone's body was able to cope with this dose. And with the mask, it turned out as if they had been vaccinated.

Draw conclusions for yourself.

[alekseykabanets]

Quote: Tatiana

Tested in practice. Namely.......

Kindergarten "Sun" what that. You are an adult, Tatyana.

[Vladimir_2U]

A pair of reusable masks is quite enough for a change, it is enough to wear one in a PE bag and sprinkle it well with alcohol, in an hour it will be disinfected with a guarantee, the main thing is that it would be an alcohol solution, not some kind of stink. Well, when replacing the mask, process and clean up the used one with the same macar.

[Tatyana]

Covid lives on a tissue surface for several hours. Approximately 3 hours.

I personally have a lot of masks in circulation - about 30, probably, if not more.

I take with me from home with a supply of 4-5 masks. Usually I use one or two of them per day - in transport, in shops and in other premises. On the street I take off my mask.

Arriving home, I put the masks that I have worn aside on a special tray, on which they sit for several days. Then I just soak them in good, very soapy water, wash them and just dry them. Previously, out of fright, I also stroked them with a hot iron, but now I don’t even iron them.

Such protection may be sufficient to some extent. The main thing is not to abuse walking in public places, especially where there are a lot of people. If I need to travel, for example, 3 stops, then I try to walk them. For health, such physical activity in the fresh air is very beneficial.

[Vladimir_2U]

Quote: Tatiana

Covid lives on a tissue surface for several hours. Approximately 3 hours.

Temperature and humidity decide!

[Tatyana]

Quote: Vladimir_2U

Temperature and humidity decide!

That's right, they decide! But the nature of the surface itself also matters. Namely.

[Flooding]

Quote: aleksejkabanets

Explain to me in simple terms, why should I, for example, wear a mask if I do not have a cough, and the mask does not save from COVID?

it is a kind of social contract, mutual obligations
I, a stranger, should not be afraid that you, being without a mask, will sneeze

is tantamount to how the owner of the dog is obliged to walk it on a leash, regardless of whether it rushes at passers-by or not

strangers who do not know you personally should not strain from the thought "what if he sneezes?"

[alekseykabanets]

Quote: Flood

it's a kind of social contract

I didn't negotiate with anyone! Wearing a mask all the time is harmful.

Quote: Flood

I, a stranger, should not be afraid that you, being without a mask, will sneeze

So we have capitalism, which you are so defending, therefore - every man for himself. What do I care about what the TV scared you there.

Quote: Flood

is tantamount to how the owner of the dog is obliged to walk it on a leash, regardless of whether it rushes at passers-by or not

Apparently you don't have a dog.

Quote: Flood

strangers who do not know you personally should not strain from the thought "what if he sneezes?"

I repeat, we have capitalism, i.e. every man for himself. What do I care what strangers fantasize about? "Our" oligarchs, like "our" government, do not care about me, but I have to worry that someone has some kind of cockroaches in their heads?
Tell me from a medical point of view, why should I wear a mask if I don't cough or sneeze?

[Flooding]

Quote: aleksejkabanets

I didn't negotiate with anyone! Wearing a mask all the time is harmful

social contract presupposes the consent of the majority, not everyone

Quote: aleksejkabanets

So we have capitalism, which you are so defending, therefore - every man for himself.

be cunning. Why then the state?

Quote: aleksejkabanets

Apparently you don't have a dog

explain

Quote: aleksejkabanets

What do I care what strangers are imagining?

Capitalism Abolishes Society?

Quote: aleksejkabanets

Tell me from a medical point of view, why should I wear a mask if I don't cough or sneeze?

and when talking from the mouth, saliva does not spray ...
I'm not talking about the effectiveness of this measure, but about public order
rule either for everyone or for no one

[alekseykabanets]

Quote: Flood

social contract presupposes the consent of the majority, not everyone

Are you sure that the majority wants to constantly wear a mask and harm their health?

Quote: Flood

be cunning. Why then the state?

"The political organization of the ruling class of the country, headed by the government and its bodies, which have the task of preserving the existing order and suppressing class opponents" So?
"The state is a machine for maintaining the domination of one class over another." Or so?

Quote: Flood

explain

What to explain then? If you had a dog, then you would know that a leash, and often a muzzle, is first of all protection from d_u_r_a_o_v who, until you see, will want to pet your dog or show their courage in the presence of a lady, etc. Those. any, even the most trained dog, can misinterpret the intentions of a stranger and then figure it out in court that he was just waving a stick, for example.

Quote: Flood

Capitalism Abolishes Society?

Capitalism puts the personal above the social. Didn't you know the same?

Quote: Flood

and when talking from the mouth, saliva does not sprinkle ..

Well, this is someone like.))))

Quote: Flood

I'm not talking about the effectiveness of this measure, but about public order
rule either for everyone or for no one

Exactly, exactly! Look at the meetings of the State Duma, the Federation Council, the Cabinet of Ministers, etc. Peskov, it seems, once had a "nanobaydzhik".)))) No, I'm joking for the equality of everyone before the law, but it's somehow sad with this for now. And even if the one who comes up with laws and observes the laws, this very equality begins with himself. And how it turns out badly, don’t you think?

[Flooding]

Quote: aleksejkabanets

Are you sure that the majority wants to constantly wear a mask and harm their health?

the fact is that most people associate a mask with protection, not harm.
which, in principle, is justified if the mask is not worn all the time and kept in a clean state

Quote: aleksejkabanets

Or so?

any formulation of the state means that the law of the jungle in its original form is no longer valid.

Quote: aleksejkabanets

Capitalism puts the personal above the social. Didn't you know the same?

Of course not
where can I read it?
that, for example, private property is higher than public property

Quote: aleksejkabanets

If you had a dog, then you would know that a leash, and often a muzzle, is, first of all, protection from d_u_r_a_k_o_v

for the first time I hear takub a pleasant interpretation of the law for dog owners
but only more often it is not people who rush to the slab, but vice versa

[Serge-667]

the virus is not transmitted by saliva, but by aerosol suspension. Being a sick covid, you can at least spit on your opponent from head to toe. the main thing is that he does not then, sorry, lick your saliva. And, it is a completely different matter if you just stand in a mask, in an atmosphere of high humidity. whether you wear a mask or not, you will be an excellent peddler. in a mask, it is even better - the suspension gives a more voluminous cloud. Aerosol, in contrast to saliva, is in an air-suspended state for a long time and is involved in the transmission of the virus for its entire life outside the body. It (aerosol) also gets on the mucous membranes of the body, through which it gets inside. Not even through the skin, which is a pretty strong immune barrier for him.

[Flooding]

Quote: Serge-667

the virus is not transmitted by saliva, but by aerosol suspension. Being a sick covid, you can at least spit on your opponent from head to toe. the main thing is that he does not later, sorry, lick your saliva

1.these words were correlated with the opponent's confidence that it is sneezes or coughs that are harmful, and not the smallest particles exhaled by a person at rest
2. The carried larger particles of saliva with a viral infection can also get onto the mucous membrane directly.
3.Could larger particles of saliva contaminated with a viral infection be hazardous after they evaporate?

[Serge-667]

can larger particles of saliva infected with a viral infection be dangerous after they have evaporated?

Definitely not. Unless, of course, you specifically put a fan on this grunt and direct it towards your face. Well, or bring it home and put it on the battery.
Aerosol settles under other normal conditions, because it has a weight greater than air, gravity and the laws of physics of gaseous media act on it.

[Flooding]

"If the droplets are relatively large, they are heavy and, like rain, fall to the ground before evaporating. Other droplets are smaller and smaller due to evaporation. These smaller droplets can remain suspended for longer, sometimes up to several hours. moving with currents of air. "

https://spid.center/ru/articles/2768/

[Serge-667]

And the lifetime of the virus?))) Or does it not count?) But there is no exact data. One thing is the surface, where he can live for a day in acceptable conditions, another is the process of evaporation, in which a drying process occurs, which destroys the lipid layer of the virus. So, in the heat, with any evaporation from the ground, it will not live to your nostrils.

ps / and the article is so to itself. Some "maybe, maybe" .. You can theorize endlessly.
Practice shows one thing. If you are sick, sit at home and get treatment. If you go outside, wear a mask.

[Vladimir_2U]

Quote: aleksejkabanets

That is, whether a person with COVID wears a mask or not, he can still infect others.

The mask dramatically reduces the release of saliva and phlegm to others, and this no less dramatically reduces the viral load on the organisms of others.

Quote: aleksejkabanets

if I do not have a cough, and the mask does not save me from COVID

The 21st century is in the yard, and some do not know about the incubation period!

Quote: aleksejkabanets

Whether I wear a mask or not, I can still get COVID.

Well, of course, and also the mask does not give a damn about the health of others!

Quote: aleksejkabanets

In addition, being in a mask for a long time is dangerous to health.

If an adult is not able to change the mask every two hours, is he capable?

[Maki Avellevich]

Quote: Black

Dear Tatiana. In my opinion, the case described by you and this situation are ABSOLUTELY different. He is a vaccineer, an antivacciner - what's the difference. He killed innocent people, he injured a child. ... In my opinion, this is a death sentence.

there is pathology.
if he didn’t kill anyone but just got scared, then it would be possible to treat forcibly, but in this case only preventive hanging.
not as a punishment but as a preventive measure against a relapse in the future.

[Ryaruav]

what a girl, 10 year old girl

[Orange bigg]

Why are there so many psychopaths? I am sorry for the relatives of the victims.

.Sergey Glazov, who shot two people in the Moscow MFC, turned out to be a former serviceman. TASS reports.

The man served in military unit number 339949, he is a lieutenant colonel in the reserve, specifies the Telegram channel Mash.

Glazov resigned in 2010, adds the Telegram channel "112". Now he has been brought for interrogation to the investigator, but he cannot give evidence yet, as he is in an inadequate state.

A criminal case was initiated under the article of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation “Murder of two or more persons”.

Earlier on December 7, it was reported that an employee of the center and a visitor were killed during the shooting at the MFC in the southeast of Moscow. Three more people were injured, including one child of ten years old. The shooting, according to the source of the Telegram channel "112", was opened by 45-year-old Sergei Glazov.

https://m.lenta.ru/news/2021/12/07/mfcstrelba/

[210ox]

Where? Someone was "optimized" - recognized as healthy and kicked out of the madhouse, someone's roof goes from the current life and restrictions. Someone is just a juvenile woodpecker who has read all kinds of crap in the nets.

[purple]

The 45-year-old Sergei Glazov, named in the media as a "shooter from the MFC," denied his involvement in the incident. The man said this in an interview with News.ru.
A number of media outlets indicated that the shooting in the Moscow MFC was opened by a person with the same name and the same age. A photo from his page on VKontakte was published by various publications after the information about the incident.

The man assured that he is now in one of the villages in the Moscow region. “Now everyone is calling me and calling me from work,” Glazov admitted. He explained that at the moment he was busy assembling the kitchen and no one was detaining him.

[fiberboard]

Psychopaths from the fact that no one works with combatants. Neither psychologists nor officials. All care is 3200 rubles per month. But there are quite a large number of people with the skills to kill. Any person who has been in battle morally crossed the line, and at which he becomes capable of killing his own kind. There are a huge number of Afghans and Chechens in the country, but our government has only one task - to prevent them from organizing themselves, otherwise they can easily put an end to this government. Therefore, the problem is hushed up, as if it does not exist. This is not the first such case.

[vervolk]

hey hey and the veteran organizations? what are you telling me nonsense? who prevents you from organizing yourself and promoting your people to deputies?

[alystan]

Some just tried to challenge the statements of someone higher and paid with their health and several years of their freedom!
And you offer them to become deputies, who will let them go there?
The road there will be open only to those who send some ... someone to another world! Or if a former athlete, then yes ...

[Kesha1980]

Well, what do the DB veterans have to do with it?
Who's arranging the shooting lately? Teenagers! Kazan, etc. With your logic, now all veterans must be registered - this is stupidity.
The "digital" world (ice's brains flow from vidos "jokes" in the net, "saints carrying new ideas", a clear excess of information, given / perceived specifically incorrectly and dangerous for the psyche) will inevitably lead to the periodic appearance of "shooters". This from Norway (Bronsvik or something similar) is soon going to be released on parole. Although he put a lot of people to rest. Has a lot of fans and subscribers on the Internet.
And separately. All this situevina with covid also does not give people a sense of calmness from the word at all. People don't know how many new dies are expected in the near future. They expect new restrictions all the time. In Greece, they decided last week - now the revaccination period is 3 months. A madhouse on the planet Dirt echoes in the minds of "primates". What is there to be surprised at? Only that psychos / anarchists are not grouped.
And the absence of a "tower" is also harmful. It can even be safely asserted that if certain "demons" were executed, such excesses would occur less, and as a result, random people would die less.

[fiberboard]

As I understand it, we are talking about a former soldier, and not about teenagers who have seen enough American bloody militants.

[Lara Croft]

Quote: Kesha1980

With your logic, now all veterans must be registered - this is stupidity.

Where does a simple retired "polkashash" have a combat Glock and is it in service in many combat units?

[Kesha1980]

Considering my previous comment to the dear "dvp", where did the DB veterancy come from? The Glock is a good car, model 17 is a miracle. But! Nifik is not known: who, from what exactly and for what reason. There is no ground for reasoning. How veterans are concerned?

[Lara Croft]

Quote: Kesha1980

There is no ground for reasoning. How veterans are concerned?

Uncle in the article writes that the killer was with a combat Glock (not a sports one, not a PLO), respectively, either he had a trophy or an unaccounted barrel given to him by the same military pensioner ... or a grateful "student" ... if a person comes with a short-barreled into a public place, then he is already down, and besides, he does not care about those around him, firstly because he violates the mask regime, and secondly, that he is ready to kill anyone who demands to wear a mask if he would simply kill the guard, then he could be attributed to an inadequate who does not care about the laws, but because of his attitude to the mask regime, innocent people suffered in addition to the guard, incl. children, respectively, he deserves to be torn apart on the spot, without trial or investigation ... if my daughter were in the place of the injured child, I would make a "French doll" out of him ...

[Kesha1980]

Forced to repeat.

Nifik is not known: who, from what exactly and for what reason. There is no ground for reasoning. How veterans are concerned?

Point to a news site that lists a combat veteran. Moreover, the “lieutenant colonel with specific name” indicated by the news sites “is currently“ assembling the kitchen and is surprised at his “exploits.” Therefore, I also duplicate my question - what do the veterans of military operations have to do with (literally

who has been in battle morally crossed the line at which he becomes capable of killing his own kind.

? I am indignant at this definition, because it is crap. Initially, any person is able to kill their own kind. And such a judgment about the veterans of the DB is an artificial division of society into people and "almost animals." I remember quite well when participation in the database of an employee / applicant for potential employers was initially an undeserved disadvantage. Look at the statistics on veterans - we are working, working, ready for extreme situations. Someone drank / sank, but also "ordinary" someone drank / sank.

[Usher]

already indicated, and this is a retired underground.

[Rusticolus]

if a person comes with a stubby in a public place, he is already down,

Hey, you'd be careful. You have now enlisted the downs of all the Ministry of Internal Affairs, the FSB, the FSO ... Yes, you are definitely an extremeist my friend. If someone you identified as downs comes for you, then take offense only at your long tongue.

[fiberboard]

Maybe nothing to do with it, only one of my platoon in Chechnya killed his mother, another stabbed a man, the third brutally beat a relative. And everything seems to be fine. We ourselves may not notice what is wrong with us. A psychologist is needed here.

[Kesha1980]

Nothing similar died about his platoon.

[your1970]

Quote: fiberboard

There are a huge number of Afghans and Chechens in the country, but our government has only one task - to prevent them from organizing themselves, otherwise they can easily put an end to this government.

Kaneshna .... tell Afghans / Chechens what they need to see a psychologist ... when you wake up later, you will understand what I mean ...
The brother of his wife is a conscript at 2 Chechenskoy- for persuasion to go to a free (from the damned authorities !!!) sanatorium or go to a psychologist -said, “Are you keeping me crazy ??????????? !!! !!!!!!! "And then he yelled so that the roof on the house jumped ....

[saygon66]

Something is wrong with the part number .... Usually five-digit numbers are!

[vladimirvn]

Maybe Rosgvardia? And in the photo he looks young for a lieutenant colonel.

[Thrifty]

To the wounded, health, and a speedy recovery, our last "forgive" who died, and peace be upon them ...

[alystan]

And if it was such an idiotic special operation, and even with the use of someone else's data?
And not just just anyone from the street! Well done Glazov, who immediately posted anti-compromising materials!
Or a terrorist attack by foreign special services?

[BISMARCK94]

Condolences to loved ones.
The media say that this is a sub-floor of the SVR in reserve. What was on his mind? And where does the mfc?

[Bashkirkhan]

He was scum, he walked with a weapon, he only needed a reason, he began to shoot at ordinary visitors in the same way. It has long been clear that all these anti-vaccination agents, anti-mask agents, and the "anti" are mentally ill people. And they should be treated accordingly.

[BISMARCK94]

It has long been clear that all these anti-vaccination agents, anti-mask agents and the anti-virus are mentally ill people. And they should be treated accordingly.

I hope he will spend the rest of his life in a slammer, but without a mask.
Ideally, it would still be deprived of the title

[purple]

They say chickens are milked ... you believe the internet more

[BISMARCK94]

And who to believe, you? TV?

[impostor]

Sergey Glazov is. Retired underground

[vervolk]

yes, even a half-man! for the rest of his life in a colony for re-education

[Yves762]

Quote: vervolk

... to a colony ... for re-education ...

-.!?.

... the man told the police that "there is a worldwide conspiracy around."

Will move on the "roof".

[fruc]

What a reeducation for him. For such, you need to create special conditions of confinement and shoot like mad dogs.

[Jacket in stock]

Quote: frruc

shoot like mad dogs.

In-in.
He did so.
Apparently soon we will read something similar about you?

[fruc]

In this case, sympathy for this murderer is inappropriate, comrade. Jacket in stock.

[Jacket in stock]

Quote: frruc

In this case, sympathy for this murderer is inappropriate, comrade. Jacket in stock.

Everyone needs empathy. He's a sick man
But you and your "shoot, snatch" .... the better it is?

[fruc]

Where did the patient get the weapon? And it is still unknown what he is sick with, the investigation will figure it out. These are the "sick" who walk among us and cripple the fate of people and take their lives. I think for such treatment is life-long isolation.

[Jacket in stock]

Quote: frruc

... And it is still unknown what he is sick with,

His cuckoo has gone, and that's understandable.

[fruc]

His identity has already been established, but Moscow law enforcement officers do not disclose this data.

Who cares who this ur .. to pull out his reproductive organs, such rubbish. Plant in full.

[Doctor]

Sergey Glazov is. Retired underground

Glazov recorded a video message. All that is said about him is nonsense, at the moment he is assembling the kitchen.

[impostor]

Will collect kitchens and sew at least twenty clothes.

[Doctor]

Will collect kitchens and sew at least twenty clothes.

He recorded it in real time. At least this is the guy who was found on social networks, a retired underground.
Maybe another one. Or they told the journalists the first name they came across.

[impostor]

The surname is common. Insider named Wu Ren's exact personal data

[210ox]

Why is it a retired military man? Do retirees have circumstances in the commission of such an atrocity? Anyone can rip off the attic, regardless of who he is and how. The question is how much people began to give a damn about other people's lives and where did he get the weapon from.

[impostor]

He took the injury stopudovo while still in the service, on a certificate of the presence of a service certificate.

[fif21]

Quote: impostor

He took an injury while still in the service

Is Glock a traumatic pistol?

[impostor]

"Makarych" - combat hand firearms? TK717T - Tekhkrimovskiy "Glock"

[fif21]

Quote: impostor

TK717T - Tekhkrimovskiy "Glock"

The shooter had a Glock, you write trauma. Hence the question.

[impostor]

there will be ballistics, there will be a conclusion, I am just hinting to you about the external similarity of the combat barrel and its replica injuries, ferstein?

[Yun Klob]

A criminal without a nationality?

[vl903]

Quote: Yoon Clob

A criminal without a nationality?

here the main sign is a retired military man, unfortunately ...

[Yun Klob]

anti-axer is also a kind of systemic idiot.

[vl903]

Quote: Yoon Clob

anti-axer is also a kind of systemic idiot.

Well, how can I say, I don’t believe in a vaccine either, but the chances that it’s useful, it seems to me more, probably ...
but here the fact is that we lost several people, including this lieutenant colonel ... and we trained them and they could bring a lot of benefit to society ... why his roof went off and how it was possible to save him and others, he's not the last ...

[Lara Croft]

Quote: vl903

why did his roof go

I loved to walk without a mask, just like you ...

we raised them and taught them

what do you have to do with raising the injured girl?

they could bring many benefits to society ...

yes, the murdered guard in the first place could bring a lot of things to his family, especially if it turns out that he was the only breadwinner, now his family will be preparing for the funeral before the new year (perhaps with the last money), which will cost a pretty penny .. .. how long do ugly people walk around the city without masks with weapons in their bosom ...?

[vl903]

1.I wear a mask - this is a trifle compared to the risk of infecting other people during the epidemic
2. the girl went to school and was in the hospital, which exist on the taxes that I pay.
both the guard and the lieutenant colonel had brought earlier and could still bring many benefits to people.
much more freaks walk around the cities without weapons and in masks, then they either crush people with cars or rob people by hitting them on the head with a brick. (my sister was robbed like that)
but this is not a reason for a man to be hysterical, talk nonsense, and pass harmful laws as our deputies.
but it is a pity for the people who suffered, they got them not for those ...

[Lara Croft]

Quote: vl903

the girl went to school and was in the hospital, which exist on the taxes that I pay.

And who will resurrect her now? Her parents also paid taxes, but it didn't help them ...

the lieutenant colonel was brought earlier and could still bring many benefits to people.

only there were always more of them than lieutenants ...

many more freaks walk the cities without weapons and in masks

that's for sure ... logically, there should be more of them, they don't like any kind of "intivaxer" type of movement, t.s. do not want publicity, although it is not known which of them is better at using a file and a sharpened electrode ...

[your1970]

Quote: Lara Croft

how many more go around the city of freaks without masks with weapons in their bosom ...?

Misha's "Two Barrels" no, he would have pushed the theory that if everyone had barrels, they would have stopped the shooter ... well, the truth would have shot half of the MFC ...
Well, or the shooter would have appreciated the firepower of the enemy and would have put on the same mask ...

[Lara Croft]

Quote: your1970

if everyone had barrels, they would stop right and stop the arrow ... well, the truth would have shot half of the MFC ...
Well, or the shooter would have appreciated the firepower of the enemy and would have put on the same mask ...

The empiricalists are forbidden to carry weapons in public places, which does not save them from executions of citizens ... and a guard can also be punctured with a three-sided file, especially in the MFC they have neither weapons nor special equipment ...

[your1970]

No, well, Misha would justify
On his theories - "the more pistols in the country - the better !!!"

[Usher]

Lived! modern man does not believe in a vaccine, and I do believe in it at all. This is not a religion. This is science. Do you believe there is current flowing in the outlet? Or is there water in the pipe? This is very strange, for example I don’t believe, but I know.

[vl903]

Quote: Usher

Lived! modern man does not believe in a vaccine, and I do believe in it at all. This is not a religion. This is science. Do you believe there is current flowing in the outlet? Or is there water in the pipe? This is very strange, for example I don’t believe, but I know.

you can know what you can check, so you are just a fanatic.
but here the situation is different - there is no emergency regime, and the rights of citizens are limited, so his roof was blown off

[Lara Croft]

Quote: Yoon Clob

anti-axer is also a kind of systemic idiot.

contagious idiot ...

[Serge-667]

All those killed and injured are immensely sorry.
However, the phrase is at least puzzling:

"The conflict arose because of the demand for a man to wear a medical mask. Supposedly this was what caused an attack of aggression."

Strictly speaking, the conflict arose as a result of the obvious deviations of the psyche of this frostbitten go froma.
There is a category of thugs, for whom you just need to start shooting at people. And the reason is not at all important here.

[Prjanik]

Yes, with the same success he would open fire in the line at the store .. Now the ghoul is either mowing like a nutcase, with conspiracy theories, or really the roof has gone ..

[vl903]

Quote: Prjanik

Yes, with the same success he would open fire in the line at the store .. Now the ghoul is either mowing like a nutcase, with conspiracy theories, or really the roof has gone ..

Well, a normal person would not shoot at either the MFC or the store.
a crisis in society always provokes bursts of such phenomena.
Why is there an epidemic in the country, but there is no emergency regime, and should municipalities and governors have to restrict the rights of people with masks and codes without legal grounds? here anyone will have anger and a roof blowing

[vl903]

condolences to all those affected.
mad.
inevitably.
BUT!
now the screeching will start again that civilians (not the military and services) need to test psychologists for 10 thousand, prohibit civilians everything that is possible, especially terrible knives and, of course, self-loading rifles and of course injuries ...
for safety's sake ...

[Pandiurin]

Quote: vl903

condolences to all those affected.
mad.
inevitably.
BUT!
now the screeching will start again that civilians (not the military and services) need to test psychologists for 10 thousand, prohibit civilians everything that is possible, especially terrible knives and, of course, self-loading rifles and of course injuries ...
for safety's sake ...

Judging by the number of victims and the severity of the injuries, this is not an injury.
The conflict is the most common, there was no threat to life.
A short-barrel of a person who began to shoot at people around him, even with whom he had no conflict ..
really questions arise, someone signed a weapon permit for him. Anyone who left such a retiree with a weapon let his colleagues down. It is clear that honest services, honest people should leave their weapons after the end of the service. Now all these permissions will be rechecked.

[vl903]

Quote: Pandiurin

Quote: vl903

condolences to all those affected.
mad.
inevitably.
BUT!
now the screeching will start again that civilians (not the military and services) need to test psychologists for 10 thousand, prohibit civilians everything that is possible, especially terrible knives and, of course, self-loading rifles and of course injuries ...
for safety's sake ...

Judging by the number of victims and the severity of the injuries, this is not an injury.
The conflict is the most common, there was no threat to life.
A short-barrel of a person who began to shoot at people around him, even with whom he had no conflict ..
really questions arise, someone signed a weapon permit for him. Anyone who left such a retiree with a weapon let his colleagues down. It is clear that honest services, honest people should leave their weapons after the end of the service. Now all these permissions will be rechecked.

yes, this is the usual madness.
the epidemic hit everyone with stress. all 140 million every six months you will not be able to drive through a super examination. if he didn’t have a trunk, a man of such training would find a KAMAZ to enter the mfc. but the point is not what conclusions our pseudo deputies draw from such events (((

[Usher]

With what is this cabbage soup? Finished service, you are an ordinary citizen, equal before the law. No "must leave" weapons. Why is that?

[vl903]

because you can't put the police on every corner. and the man has proved that he is a responsible citizen in the event of an emergency, he will be more useful with a weapon.
his roof was blown off, and Yevseyev was blown off, this is inevitable.
40 thousand per year from cars! and probably 90% because of the inadequacy of the drivers, consider it a mild form of madness .... but they are more useful, or do you suggest taking away cars if not service ones?

[Usher]

And what is wrong? Hello? He killed two and crippled four. There would be no weapon, this would not be.

[vl903]

Quote: Usher

And what is wrong? Hello? He killed two and crippled four. There would be no weapon, this would not be.

and how many of these are beaten with machines or cuts with a knife do the kind media tell you?

[Lech from Android.]

But what for a year such ... Either in Kazan or in the capital, the madmen start firing according to their mood.
Where did so many abnormalities come from in our society all of a sudden.

[vervolk]

they have always been. just before, such news was not considered news

[Prjanik]

And I'm not surprised, the time of all information slops is available. Sometimes you come across such a schizoid delusion that your hair stands on end, but for someone it can become a trigger ..

[martin-159]

Indeed, life is getting better and better every day!

[Lara Croft]

Quote: martin-159

Indeed, life is getting better and better every day!

You wanted to write: "Life has become better, life has become more fun"?

[martin-159]

Something like this, but in my opinion many disagree.

[K-50]

His identity has already been established, but Moscow law enforcement officers do not disclose this data.

No matter how it turns out, this person of a certain ethnic group. And they do not report, because the deputies asked not to disclose the nationality. Vague suspicions gnaw at me.
Condolences to the relatives of the deceased, and the victims of recovery and good health after.

[your1970]

Wrong, doubts gnaw at you - Sergei Glazov, former lieutenant colonel

[K-50]

Quote: your1970

Wrong, doubts gnaw at you - Sergei Glazov, former lieutenant colonel

Well, with him, it's a pity you can't hang it on a branch by attaching it to the neck with a string.

[tralflot1832]

They write that he had a Glock. He did not shoot his family there? Condolences to the families of the victims, recovery of the wounded.

[Shooter22]

There are limitations and chaos all around, without belief in a better future. The nerves of the people are beginning to fail. It is a pity for the dead and injured, but such chaos is already beginning to become commonplace, all networks are filled with such negativity, to our great regret.

[Sidor Amenpodestovich]

Quote: Shooter22

all the networks are filled with similar negativity

Because people are idiots.

[Beringovsky]

Quote: Sydor Amenpospestovich

Because people are idiots.

What is the system in the country - so are the people.

[Sidor Amenpodestovich]

Quote: Beringovsky

What is the system in the country - so are the people.

This is true. Only discipline and control, as under Stalin, then there will be order. And you can't cook porridge with these liberals. They let the little people free into the pampas, so they have a roof and they are going from permissiveness.

[Mikhail Sidorov]

On the contrary - what kind of people are such and the boyars

[impostor]

Look, the senators in the Federation Council have already babbled - to prohibit trauma as a class. Some prohibitions, like in Chipolino. It would be better if they forbade themselves to steal budget money.

[Sidor Amenpodestovich]

Quote: impostor

Some prohibitions, like in Chipolino

Really. Better to allow everything. Steroids and stimulants in sports, all drugs, weapons to sell whatever, including chemical.
I am sure that this man, instead of a pistol, would have brought a Cyclone-B canister with him with much greater pleasure.

[impostor]

Are you really sure that with the current socio-political formation, given the availability of money, at least some problems with steroids, stimulants, drugs and weapons can arise ?!

[Sidor Amenpodestovich]

With money, there will be no problems with anything under any political formation.
For example, China is one of the largest producers and exporters of synthetic drugs and precursors.

[Ross xnumx]

Quote: impostor

Some prohibitions, like in Chipolino.

By the way, about Cipollino:

[Usher]

So I agree, weapons should be banned. And there will not be any shooters and such cases. What do you want reps?

[ximkim]

Quote: Shooter22

There are limitations and chaos all around, without belief in a better future. The nerves of the people are beginning to fail. It is a pity for the dead and injured, but such chaos is already beginning to become commonplace, all networks are filled with such negativity, to our great regret.

And there is.
From this mess and restrictions, the nerves will not get stronger.
The atmosphere is like that in the country

[Lara Croft]

Quote: ximkim

From this mess and restrictions, the nerves will not get stronger.
The atmosphere is like that in the country

Your truth. And I just today (because of a blizzard) brought it from the balcony of the DShK into the room. In vain.

[hhurik]

Likewise with your bullet. But the DShK has a too loud sound when firing and the cartridges are expensive, so I prefer a caramultuk of a different design.

[bober1982]

Sometimeslet's just say, seemingly wild things (maybe unsuccessfully put it) - he was a respected assistant professor, became a dismemberment, was a housewife, became a cruel executioner of a rival - dissolved her in a bathroom in acid, was an ardent lover, stabbed his girlfriend several dozen times with a knife, etc., etc.
Something similar happened to this unfortunate person.
You like it, you don’t like it, comrades and gentlemen, but ........ the devil laughs, at the poor lieutenant colonel, without his knowledge, from his soul it got out that he was sitting there and accumulating for a long time, he has no one to blame but as yourself.

[Jacket in stock]

Sorry for the victims.
No luck.
And the man's roof was thoroughly demolished, maybe the service was "adventurous", but we can only later. Health - it is, a disposable thing.

[rocket757]

Quite cuckoo or mows like that.
This is no longer a human being, no matter how you look at it.
Condolences to the victims of the tragedy and their loved ones.

[Sergey3]

Here they immediately pounced on the shooter, such as raging dogs, etc. etc. Did you personally draw up the documents ?! Do you know how difficult it is sometimes ?? What insane demands are often put forward, just not to do what they are sitting there for? Personally, I filled out the documents for the house after the death of my parents. While they were alive, they did not require any extra papers. They were gone and started spinning !!! For a year I ran around the MFC, BTI, the service of the chief architect of the city, the sanitary and epidemiological station and a bunch of others. Do you know what was the most absurd document you had to get? You will never guess in your life !!!!!! To obtain a certificate from the Sanitary and Epidemiological Station, I had to conclude a fictitious contract with a commercial company on the supply of bottled water !!!! And this is for registration of documents on ownership by inheritance of an ordinary private house, which there are millions in Russia! And no bosses have anything to do with it, managers scoff, knowing that it will not work to get around them. This is a way to draw out a bribe. Well, my time was unlimited, but who lives in another city? As a result, I had to sue the district administration and I won it. Can you imagine how many nerves you had to spend? There was just a wild desire to get a large-caliber machine gun and put everyone I could get there. So personally, I just perfectly understand this guy, his mental state after the bullying of the system.

[vl903]

Quote: Sergey3

Here they immediately pounced on the shooter, such as raging dogs, etc. etc. Did you personally draw up the documents ?! Do you know how difficult it is sometimes ?? What insane demands are often put forward, just not to do what they are sitting there for? Personally, I filled out the documents for the house after the death of my parents. While they were alive, they did not require any extra papers. They were gone and started spinning !!! For a year I ran around the MFC, BTI, the service of the chief architect of the city, the sanitary and epidemiological station and a bunch of others. Do you know what was the most absurd document you had to get? You will never guess in your life !!!!!! To obtain a certificate from the Sanitary and Epidemiological Station, I had to conclude a fictitious contract with a commercial company on the supply of bottled water !!!! And this is for registration of documents on ownership by inheritance of an ordinary private house, which there are millions in Russia! And no bosses have anything to do with it, managers scoff, knowing that it will not work to get around them. This is a way to draw out a bribe. Well, my time was unlimited, but who lives in another city? As a result, I had to sue the district administration and I won it. Can you imagine how many nerves you had to spend? There was just a wild desire to get a large-caliber machine gun and put everyone I could get there. So personally, I just perfectly understand this guy, his mental state after the bullying of the system.

probably not from scratch blew his roof off

[fruc]

It was he who apparently specially took the barrel with him in order to deal with an unsolvable issue. I heard something else. There was a scuffle with the security guard (they have metal detectors), maybe he demanded to show the contents of the bag, and he showed him the trunk. And after the killings, he ran out of the ICF and caught up, and had to be detained on the street. It's good that there were no corpses there. How sick is he ?, he acted judiciously and quickly.

[Usher]

How is it without corpses?

[Kushka]

And it's also cool when a guy makes out a 2x2 plot
for the installation of a stall where he wants to sell toothbrushes
(for example). So water, among other information (from power engineers, gas workers,
water utility, communications workers for the absence of their cables and pipes under this place),
heaps of fiscal information about your identity, he will be forced to get more
certificate of the absence of plants in this area
IN THE RED BOOK (well, there is some ginseng). And this is a city where several
For decades, asphalt was laid layer by layer. But where to get such a certificate,
this is a separate rebus.

[Usher]

Quote: Sergey3

Here they immediately pounced on the shooter, such as raging dogs, etc. etc. Did you personally draw up the documents ?! Do you know how difficult it is sometimes ?? What insane demands are often put forward, just not to do what they are sitting there for? Personally, I filled out the documents for the house after the death of my parents. While they were alive, they did not require any extra papers. They were gone and started spinning !!! For a year I ran around the MFC, BTI, the service of the chief architect of the city, the sanitary and epidemiological station and a bunch of others. Do you know what was the most absurd document you had to get? You will never guess in your life !!!!!! To obtain a certificate from the Sanitary and Epidemiological Station, I had to conclude a fictitious contract with a commercial company on the supply of bottled water !!!! And this is for registration of documents on ownership by inheritance of an ordinary private house, which there are millions in Russia! And no bosses have anything to do with it, managers scoff, knowing that it will not work to get around them. This is a way to draw out a bribe. Well, my time was unlimited, but who lives in another city? As a result, I had to sue the district administration and I won it. Can you imagine how many nerves you had to spend? There was just a wild desire to get a large-caliber machine gun and put everyone I could get there. So personally, I just perfectly understand this guy, his mental state after the bullying of the system.

Well, what have the guards and other visitors to do with it? Is it difficult to put on a mask?

[your1970]

Quote: Sergey3

There was just a wild desire to get a large-caliber machine gun and put everyone I could get there.

As the opposite side - "damned bureaucrats" - I can say right away - that if everything you described is true, then your parents did not have a single document either for the house or for the land adjacent to the house.
This happens - rarely, but it happens - people have been living under capitalism for 30 years under the slogan "Well, they won't kick me out of my house !!!!"
Then the truth is very surprised - when their "black realtors" move somewhere ...
BTI? For what purpose? To raise the archive? So they do not have it, they have been a private office for 15 years ...
The cities are full of cadastral engineers - and people go to the sign of BTI LLC - it's like a state ...
SES? !! In general, the mulka is somehow incomprehensible when passing the right The only option is if you commissioned it as a newly built facility ..

Quote: Sergey3

get a heavy machine gun and put everyone I can get there

Literally 10 minutes after Serik Bisengalievich left, he came so that he would be corrected from "Sergei Borisovich" in the certificate of ownership of agricultural land. To the question
-...... ???? "
And they always called me that on the collective farm - I thought so correctly !!!
- But in the passport you are Serik Bisengalievich !!!!
- then the passport, and then the land ...

No explanations - that he needs to confirm the right in court, that the district committee of land - which could be corrected - was liquidated at the beginning of 2000 - does not apply to him ...
He has been visiting us for six months already, apparently he also thinks

Quote: Sergey3

just not to do what they are sitting there for?

And yes - if they really are nominated

Quote: Sergey3

insane demands

nothing not normatively confirmed - write a complaint to the department's e-mail. The higher authority ... It helps very effectively, I confirm this to you as a "bureaucrat" ... it arrives right behind the jambs ...

Quote: Sergey3

While they were alive, they did not require any extra papers.

Quote: Sergey3

While they were alive, they did not require any extra papers.

I have 17 houses on the territory under my jurisdiction - I could check 000 per year
Naked arithmetic gives 150 years For checking
And now 248 FZ has also cut our rights - so that state supervision of legal entities and individuals does not offend, yeah ...

[Ross xnumx]

In Moscow unknown opened fire at the MFC, there are casualties ...
Shooting by the criminal was carried out from a short-barreled weapon (pistol). Model not reported...
According to some sources, who shot at people turned out to be a former soldier, a retired lieutenant colonel ...

Quote: Flood

Tear off the hands of a rabid inhuman.

Quote: Flood

It is infinitely sorry for both the killed girl and the wounded girl.

Quote: Fungus

The girl is alive!

Didn't it seem to anyone that it was too early to carry out lynching?
Are there any witnesses to the crime on the site?
Maybe we can wait for the official investigation?

[your1970]

I will join ...
It is incomprehensible to the end with the personality.
The only thing is clear for sure - this is not self-defense - since the guards obviously have no weapons.
Well, shooting at unarmed people is a sign of a certain phase shift ... The visitors of the MFC obviously could not threaten his life and health ...

[north 2]

My personal opinion is, why should a person in broad daylight in the center of Moscow have a weapon with him at all? Why does he need it? My opinion is that such people behave arrogantly and provocatively in the subconscious, relying on the fact that he has a pistol in a holster or pocket and this is the argument of being above others and not fulfilling the requirements common to all.
I am very sorry for the victims and their parents. As it is, no fire, no accident, no illness, no war - and the man is no longer there. He was simply shot in the store for nothing and for nothing ...

[Sergey3]

I suspect that they brought the person to white heat, so I took it with me ...

[fruc]

It would be better if he shot himself.

[Mikhail Sidorov]

This is not an excuse why people should be shot at, especially children ...

[Usher]

What is white heat? Is it difficult to put on the mask? Is it white heat for you?

[your1970]

Quote: Sergey3

I suspect that they brought the person to white heat, so I took it with me ...

Then he has no brains at all - MFC transmission link , they themselves do not decide anything at all.

[Usher]

Quote: North 2

My personal opinion is, why should a person in broad daylight in the center of Moscow have a weapon with him at all? Why does he need it? My opinion is that such people behave arrogantly and provocatively in the subconscious, relying on the fact that he has a pistol in a holster or pocket and this is the argument of being above others and not fulfilling the requirements common to all.
I am very sorry for the victims and their parents. As it is, no fire, no accident, no illness, no war - and the man is no longer there. He was simply shot in the store for nothing and for nothing ...

A friend of mine carries a knife at work. I asked why he needed it. He said to fight back. A person works in an office, who does he want to fight off? From reports?

[Obliterator]

The Minister of Internal Affairs of the Russian Federation, Vladimir Kolokoltsev, made a decision to submit to the President of the Russian Federation a proposal for awarding a state award to senior police lieutenant Georgy Domolaev, who distinguished himself in the arrest of an armed intruder.

Today a man entered the premises of the multifunctional center on 1st Novokuzminskaya Street and opened fire on the citizens who were in it, after which he tried to escape. As a result, 2 people were killed, 4 were injured, including a 10-year-old girl.

Police officer Georgy Domolaev, who was in the building, was an inspector of the OVM OMVD of Russia for the Ryazan District of the Internal Affairs Directorate for the South-Eastern Administrative District of the Main Directorate of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Russia for Moscow. Eyewitnesses to the crime pointed to a man who left the building and walked away at a brisk pace.

The policeman overtook him and detained him, despite the fact that he himself was not armed, and the attacker had a pistol and a knife with him. The detainee was a 45-year-old resident of Moscow.
Source: mvd.rf

[Sergey3]

So who was detained then? The one who was in a hurry accused by the media had nothing to do with it, they found a namesake and accused altogether.

[Ryaruav]

the main, most important question is why did not he shoot Golikova? the country would be grateful and provide a good attitude

[zloybond]

the villain, of course, is officially allowed a weapon. Question to the system "razvedilova" how so ??? Previously, at the age of 16, you could buy a double-barreled gun to join the society of hunters ... and somehow everything was easier. and now it is easier to get permission with a sore head than it is for an ordinary person to go for bread.

[Usher]

Nothing is clear from your words, do you want double-barreled guns to be issued now at the age of 16? Is Perm not enough for you?

[Mikhail Sidorov]

What's with the moratorium? Too many shooters got divorced ...

[Vladimir61]

Such creatures should not be detained. Destroy!

[Rusticolus]

The fact that most of the comments here would be from aggressive people was immediately clear. For this, this little article of low importance was squeezed here. But I am interested in something else.
In fact, a group attack with a threat to life was carried out on a person who violated only the Code of Administrative Offenses. As far as I understand, self-defense of your life doesn't count? We have the same law as a rod, where the top has to go there and go. And then, are you still saying something about the Naglo-Saxon double standards? And you yourself are not like that? Isn't it the same with us here now? There would be this underground at the speech of some sort of Gazmanov at the corporate party of the Ministry of Internal Affairs. And no one would say a word to him for the mask.
It all looks disgusting.

[Usher]

You yourself, then realized what he said? A man came to the MFC, when asked to put on a mask, he started shooting. Killed two and wounded four. What the hell is a "group attack" hello Vasya !!! ??? You twist the facts and the law as you like, don't you confuse the cause-and-effect relationship?

[your1970]

Quote: Rusticolus

a life-threatening group attack was carried out. As far as I understand, self-defense of your life doesn't count?

That is, self-defense with weapons against WITHOUT a gun guard? What an aggressive guard went ... they throw themselves at the pistol with bare hands ...
And yes, if self-defense is really straightforward - self-defense - a shot in the air would be enough ...
No?
A 10-year-old girl, apparently, was also a threat to the life of the shooter ...
Would you go ... to Misha "Two Trunks" ... he also has the same thoughts in his head as you do ...

Quote: Rusticolus

It all looks disgusting.

[Saxahorse]

Other Moscow news also for today:

Moscow. December 7. INTERFAX.RU - On the Moscow transport there was the third incident of the day with a man getting on the rails. First it happened on the Serpukhovsko-Timiryazevskaya and Arbatsko-Pokrovskaya metro lines, then the Kursk-Rizhsky diameter (MCD-2).

The people are specifically going crazy. Some kind of massive psychosis begins ..

[Nexcom]

This psychosis did not begin. It continues unfortunately ...

[SPQR]

Raised his hand to the child ...
Scum ...

[Usher]

This is what "amateurs" of firearms want. So that everyone with their cockroaches in the head would shoot for any reason.

[vl903]

Quote: Usher

This is what "amateurs" of firearms want. So that everyone with their cockroaches in the head would shoot for any reason.

we were quietly restricted in rights without an emergency regime and everything was swallowed.
now the slaves begin - limit more!
whip us harder. more more!
and in no case should you think about what it comes from, and how to reduce it.
restrict our rights yet! more more!
but it's a pity for the people who suffered not for those ... we are to blame for their death, because of our stupidity ...

[amr]

Quote: Tatiana

In general, the impression was created that anti-vaccineers are deliberately aggravating the political situation in the country.

Wow! there is already a name and a cliché))
anti-vaccineers)))

personally, I absolutely understand and support him, despite the fact that I set all the vaccines for myself about normal vaccines, all my children are also vaccinated, I’m talking about normal vaccines again ... but the fact that now people who, according to the constitution and common sense, have the right not to be vaccinated (no one knows what), despite the fact that no one takes responsibility for the consequences, etc. ...

and again, the death rate of the epidemic has not reached the threshold when it can be called an epidemic, but they are persistently trying to convince us of this! as well as in the fact that they care about us, although before that absolutely no one is interested in our problems, they cannot help pensioners, but we will save the whole country from a pandemic.

PS: for your information, several acquaintances and relatives of old people died from covid, and I am very confident that most of them died from the fact that they were stupidly healed, and not treated!