Marshal Berthier. Outstanding staff officer who did not want to be a commander

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Marshal Berthier. Outstanding staff officer who did not want to be a commander
Marshal Berthier, engraving after a painting by Page the Younger

Louis-Alexander Berthier is an unusual and extraordinary figure among Napoleonic marshals. He was not a commander in the generally accepted sense of the word, moreover, he never aspired to be one. Napoleon said about him on Saint Helena:

“Nature, creating people, wished that some of them would always remain in a subordinate position, such was Berthier. I didn’t have a better chief of staff, but he would not have been able to command even five hundred soldiers. "

At the same time, many of Bonaparte's victories, perhaps, would not have taken place, or were not so large and bright, if it were not for the huge, though not too noticeable from the outside, the work of Berthier. At the same time, Bonaparte himself did not like hints of his dependence on the chief of staff. He once told his secretary Burienne:



“As for Berthier, since you’ve been with me, you can see what he is - he’s a fool, dumbass.”

To Berthier himself, as they say, Napoleon said in 1812 before leaving the army:

"I know that you are worthless, but fortunately for you, others do not know this."

Bonaparte's words are also known:

"The battle is won not by the one who proposed the plan, but by the one who took responsibility for its implementation and carried it out."

British historian Chandler agrees with him, who called Berthier “heroic chief clerk».

Napoleon himself, in moments of irritation, spoke of his chief of staff:

"The goose that I made an eagle."

However, on Saint Helena, Napoleon, speaking of himself and Berthier in the third person, said:

“He was unusually active, he followed his commander in all reconnaissance, in all his trips, without slackening one iota of his clerical work ... He sent out orders with amazing organization, accuracy and speed ... He was one of the greatest and valuable assistants to the Emperor, no one else could replace him. "

It is not surprising that in the list of marshals of 1804 we see the name Berthier in the first place.

The origin and early life of the future marshal


Berthier was not a hereditary aristocrat, like Davout, but he was not from the very bottom, like Augereau. Nor was he a typical Third Estate like Mortier, Ney, Soult, Suchet or Victor. Berthier's grandfather was a coachman, but his father became a nobleman. Here, as they say, there would be no happiness, but misfortune helped. Jean Berthier drew attention to himself for his courage and discipline during the fire of the royal stable on September 13, 1751. Having started serving under Louis XV, he retired with the rank of lieutenant colonel under his grandson and successor, Louis XVI. At the same time, he held a rather significant position - chief engineer-geographer of field camps and armies. In addition, Berthier headed the construction of a military school, where Napoleon and Davout later studied, the military and naval ministries, the foreign ministry and some other buildings. In the meantime, he made plans for the royal hunting grounds ("The King's Hunting Cards") and therefore visited the royal court. And his son, the hero of today's article, was born in Versailles. It happened on November 20, 1753, that is, Berthier was older than even Lefebvre, Augereau and Massena - the oldest of those Bonaparte marshals who continued to fight after receiving this rank.

It is curious, by the way, that two younger brothers of Alexander Berthier (Louis Cesar Gabriel and Victor Leopold) also went along the military line and both became divisional generals. However, they did not even dream of the position achieved by Louis-Alexander.


Louis-Francois Lejeune. General Berthier and his brothers, Generals Louis-Cesar-Gabriel and Victor-Leopold during the II Italian campaign

Louis-Cesar in the battle of Marengo was Murat's adjutant, in September 1802 he became a brigadier general, in 1805 he commanded the Observation Army in Holland, in 1806 he received the rank of divisional general.


Louis Cesar Berthier

In 1807, he conquered Corfu and announced the annexation of the Ionian Islands to France. For some time he was the governor of Piedmont. In 1814 he went over to the side of the Bourbons. In 1819, Louis-César Berthier drowned in a pond at the Grobois estate.

Victor-Leopold Berthier was the youngest of the brothers, and died before anyone else.


Louis Gofier. Victor-Leopold Berthier

He began serving in the royal army in 1781. In May 1791, Captain Victor-Leopold became General Adam Custine's adjutant. In 1793-1795. fought in the Vendée. In May 1796, we see him as a battalion commander in the Italian Army of the French Republic. In September 1797 he was already a brigade commander. In the future, almost all of his service, like that of his famous brother, was associated precisely with staff work. In December 1798 we see him as Chief of Staff of the 1st Infantry Division of the Roman Army of Massena. Then he headed the headquarters of the Neapolitan army. After the Battle of Trebbia, he was promoted to brigadier general. Then he served as chief of staff of various military districts. In May 1803 he was transferred to the same position in the Hanoverian army, which was commanded by Mortier.

The rank of divisional general Victor-Leopold received on February 1, 1805, and on August 29 he was sent to the headquarters of the I corps of Marshal Bernadotte. He took part in the battles at Austerlitz, Halle and Lubeck. After the defeat of Prussia, he was appointed ambassador to Berlin, but fell ill and retired on November 30, 1806. On March 21, 1807, at the age of 36, Victor-Leopold Berthier died in Paris from some kind of "malignant fever."

But back to the life and fate of Marshal Berthier. The appearance of this man was unprepossessing and absolutely unheroic. Berthier was disproportionately built: the head seemed very large for his height, the body was full, the arms were too long, the legs were short. The picture was completed by a shock of coarse hair of an indeterminate color.


In addition, he had a bad habit of biting his nails, and their appearance caused a feeling of disgust in many.

Berthier tried to compensate for the shortcomings of appearance with the elegance of his clothes. Later, already in the Napoleonic army, he was considered a trendsetter in military fashion. Even the famous dandies Murat and Lann jealously watched how he dressed. At the same time, everyone was amazed by the physical endurance and incredible work capacity of this unsightly mod. He could equally easily endure the enormous loads of long transitions and many hours of sedentary work with documents.


J. Rickard. Marshal berthier at work

General Anne-Pierre de Montesquieu-Fesensac wrote about him:

“Never has anyone had greater precision in service, submission to the commander so unquestioning, devotion so boundless ... nothing stopped his zeal, no body fatigue, no clerical work was above his strength, no test could be higher than his endurance . "

Quartermaster General Daru also recalled the physical endurance of Berthier:

"The Prince of Neuchâtel is much stronger: I did not go to bed for only nine days and nine nights, and the prince has already spent thirteen days without sleep, on horseback or working with papers."

Napoleon, by the way, believed that endurance is more important than courage. He said:

"All that is required of a soldier is endurance and patience, courage is the second thing."

Becoming Napoleon's chief of staff, Berthier traveled with him in the same carriage: together they traveled thousands of miles. But, if the chair of the emperor, through simple manipulations, turned into a bed, then his companion even had to sleep while sitting. Berthier could withstand such inconveniences without complaint.

The beginning of the service of Alexander Berthier


Alexander Berthier distinguished himself from many other marshals of Bonaparte in the education he received. At the age of 11, he entered the school of military engineers, from which he graduated at the age of 13. From that time on, he worked fully under the guidance of his father and even ruled the drafts of maps compiled by Louis XVI (this king was a lover of geography and topography). Berthier began his military service at a later age than most other Napoleonic marshals. It happened in 1775, when the 22-year-old Alexander entered the Lorraine Cavalry Regiment. And then he and his brother Charles ended up in the rebellious North American colonies of Great Britain.

Berthier in America


As a result of the Seven Years War, France lost its colonies in North America. But this victory was fatal for Great Britain. Earlier, the English colonists, who were under constant pressure from the French and their allied Indian tribes, were forced to seek help from the mother country. In these conditions, the idea of ​​independence did not even occur to anyone. Now that the military threat from the north had disappeared, the inhabitants of these colonies decided that Mother Britain was asking too much of them and giving too little. And they started a war to create their own state. France, which was just waiting for an opportunity to take revenge on the hated British, happily supported its recent enemies. At first, the French helped the rebels secretly - with money, weapons and ammunition, and Pierre-Augustin Caron, better known as Beaumarchais, played an important role in the supply.


This multi-talented man acted through a specially created company "Rodrigo Gortales & Co", which owned 11 ships (the 50-gun frigate "Proud Rodrigo" and 10 merchant ships). The initial authorized capital consisted of a million livres received from the French treasury, a million from the Spanish government and a million from French bankers hoping to get good profits from the return deliveries of American goods, primarily tobacco and cotton. Karon himself invested almost all of his funds in this company, and even got into debt. His company operated on a grand scale. The amount of weapons and ammunition delivered to America turned out to be enough for a full-fledged armament of a 30-thousandth army. And 80% of the gunpowder of the colonists was of French origin. Instead of paying, US congressmen expressed to Karon “official thanks for his efforts in helping the rebellious colonies».

In total, from 1776 to 1783 Caron's company delivered goods worth 21 million livres to America, and received as much as 48 thousand livres from the colonists. And also - "American securities" (their "value" then did not greatly exceed the cost of the paper on which they were printed) by 2,5 million livres, which were payable after 3 years. As a result, the ungrateful Americans only personally owed the playwright as much as 5 million livres. Only part of this debt was paid to his heirs in the middle of the XNUMXth century.

In 1777, Marie Joseph Yves Roque Gilbert Du Mautier, Marquis de Lafayette, went to America (disguised as a woman!) To fulfill her "international duty". Here he received the rank of Major General, became a military adviser and Washington's closest aide.


Travis Simpkins. Marquis de lafayette

Formally, Lafayette was on leave "for health reasons" all this time. However, he acted with the knowledge of the French authorities, and many researchers believe that - on the direct orders of his government.

On February 6, 1778, the cabinet of Louis XVI officially recognized the United States, and on March 17, 1778, Britain declared war on France. Finally, in May 1780, the 6th French corps landed in Newport under the command of Count Jean-Baptiste Rochambeau.


Charles Edouard Armand-Dumaresque. Portrait of the Comte de Rochambeau

The count did not even suspect that among his subordinates there would be two future marshals of France. The first of them was Private Jourdan.


Jean-Baptiste Jourdan, statue on rue de Rivoli, facade of the Louvre

And in September 1780, the second arrived in America - Lieutenant Alexander Berthier (when the main corps sailed, he was a little late, seeing in Brest only the sails of the ships that had already departed at sea). Berthier ended up serving in the headquarters of the commander-in-chief. Then he met Lafayette.

In America, Berthier took part in some battles (the battle of Yorktown, the sea battle at Cisapeake, the expedition to Jamaica). On June 21, 1781, during a battle in the area of ​​modern Harlem (New York), he was even slightly wounded - a bullet scratched his ear.


In a painting by John Trumbull, Lord Cornwallis' army at Yorktown surrenders to French and American forces (French left)

The French then managed to "annoy" the British. However, this geopolitical victory turned out to be fatal for ... France. The state treasury of this country was already empty, and now, thanks to “international aid to the brotherly American people”, The budget deficit has reached an absolutely indecent figure of one billion livres. France was sliding into a financial abyss, the crisis was so massive that they decided to rob the people a little by raising taxes. To do this, we had to collect the General States - and then, you know, off we go. In general, as they say, "do not dig a hole for another."

On the eve of the revolution


But back to Alexander Berthier, who in 1783 returned to his homeland with the rank of captain. He did not stay at home for a long time: very soon, as part of the mission of the Marquis de Custine, he went to Prussia to study the experience and military organization of the army of Frederick the Great.

In 1788, Alexander Berthier took part in the construction of a military camp at Saint-Omer. Then he received the cross of the Order of St. Louis.

In 1789, Lieutenant Colonel Berthier first began working as chief of staff - first with the Prince of Condé, then with Baron Vesenval. And immediately it turned out that he was literally created for this position. His memory was phenomenal: at any moment he could report the position of all units, starting from the company.

It is not surprising that later Bonaparte could not do without him. There is a known case when, to clarify various details, Napoleon called the chief of staff 17 times in one night. Berthier endured these inconveniences stoically. But before meeting Bonaparte, our hero managed to serve in the National Guard, created on the initiative of his old acquaintance, Lafayette (and find himself in disgrace after the escape of the Marquis). Make war on the territory of Vendée and in Italy. And only in 1796, 42-year-old Berthier was subordinate to the 27-year-old Corsican. The next article will talk about the revolutionary and imperial periods of Berthier's service.
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  1. +7
    9 December 2021 18: 15
    Long history of wars and conquests ...
    Someone calls her glorious, but to someone she only brought grief.
    But that was how she was, and forgetting, repenting, is pointless.
  2. +8
    9 December 2021 18: 19
    In addition, Berthier led the construction of a military school, where Napoleon and Davout later studied.
    Gave a start in life ..
  3. +8
    9 December 2021 18: 29
    -Napoleon said about him on Saint Helena:
    A little off topic.
    In the retinue of Napoleon was his double, François Eugene Rabot. Researchers found an entry in the church books of the village where Rabot lived, which read: "Born in this village, died on the island of St. Helena."
    Rabo (?) Himself, who returned to the village after the battle of Waterloo, suddenly disappeared in 1818, abandoning his house and economy. INCREDIBLE efforts of the royal police to find him were unsuccessful ...
  4. +9
    9 December 2021 18: 38
    Good frosty evening, dear colleagues! wassat )))
    Thanks to Valery for the article about the hereditary intellectual - Marshal Berthier)))
    Taking one thing from Berthier, nature turned out to be generous with another.
    1. +8
      9 December 2021 19: 11
      It is not known what the outcome of the battle at Waterloo would have been if Berthier had been next to Napoleon.
  5. +11
    9 December 2021 19: 12
    As historians note, the father of the future Marshal Berthier, Jean-Baptiste, is an example of the advancement of a commoner up the social ladder thanks to both his own merits and a happy occasion. But a case of one degree or another of happiness, turning up for everyone, is not used by everyone, is it?
    Jean-Baptiste was just an errand boy for Major General de Channe de Vesan. The general, literally overwhelmed by the intellectual abilities of his young servant, helped him with education. The teenager Jean-Baptiste was sent to the bureau of the Ministry of War, and at the age of 18 he became an instructor at the Paris military school, then he fought under the banner of Marshal of France Moritz of Saxony, was wounded, and was engaged in the construction of military fortifications. This was the beginning of the ascent of the father of the future Marshal to the rank of nobility.
  6. +11
    9 December 2021 19: 29
    in May 1780, the 6-thousandth French corps landed in Newport
    Landing of the French Army at Newport on July 11, 1780, engraving by Daniel Chodovetsky, 1784.
    under the command of Count Jean-Baptiste Rochambeau.

    Monument to General Rochambeau in Washington DC.
  7. +8
    9 December 2021 19: 35
    An interesting article, as well as the entire "marshal cycle".
    Berthier, of course, stands apart from all the other marshals. He is not a "battlefield commander", but he fully agrees that if he had been with Napoleon at Waterloo, the outcome of the battle would have been different.
    1. +10
      9 December 2021 19: 59
      It is no coincidence that on about. St. Helena Napoleon, in a melancholy mood, said: "If I had Berthier, I would never have lost the battle of Waterloo."
      It seems that Louis-Alexander Berthier could not have dreamed of a better recognition of his merits from the emperor, although we will not forget that in the last battle Napoleon lacked not only his devoted chief of staff, but also many other things.
  8. +9
    9 December 2021 19: 43
    Surprisingly, however, not very, probably, but the life of Marshal Berthier's father seemed extremely interesting to me. He was truly an outstanding man!
    He showed himself as such on September 13, 1751 during the fire of the Great Stables. It was a building dedicated to the birth of Louis XV's grandson. Presumably, if some town hall were on fire, the monarch, having taken note of this, would have forgotten about the event, but that was not the case! Louis XV personally inspected the extinguishing of the fire, and it was discovered that for 24 hours Jean-Baptiste not only supervised the elimination of the fire, but also repeatedly showed courage and heroism, personally throwing himself into the fire. The king was impressed, and Berthier Sr.'s career took off. A talented engineer, cartographer and architect, he became the author of 23 drawings-schemes about the campaigns of Louis XV, as well as work on Prussian tactics, which interested French generals. Further, Jean-Baptiste participates in the construction of the building of the Military School on the Champ de Mars, in which Napoleon will later study. At 36, he headed the Army Corps of Geographical Engineers and the War Department's Maps and Plans Depot. In 1759, Jean-Baptiste Berthier, at the request of the Minister of War, began construction of buildings for the War Office, the Ministry of the Navy and the Ministry of Foreign Affairs. The architecture of the buildings designed by Berthier was highly appreciated by contemporaries.
    And finally, in 1763, Jean-Baptiste was already the chief engineer-geographer of military camps and the royal army, the governor of the buildings of the military, naval ministries and foreign affairs erected by him. And he was also elevated to the dignity of nobility. A month later, he received his own coat of arms and a particle "de" to the surname
    Note, this is all about the father of Marshal Berthier)))
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      1. +4
        9 December 2021 20: 05
        his widow married the famous general of the Napoleonic wars C. Lassalle, who was killed during the 1809 campaign.

        The woman was not lucky, huh?
        There is such a concept - "black widow". In the Middle Ages, this was the name given to women who either killed their husbands or brought them to death. Over time, the concept has transformed, and now "black widows" are women whose husbands die due to circumstances beyond the control of their wives. One, by the way, after another. It's like karma.
        1. +4
          9 December 2021 20: 14
          A bad insect cannot be called a good name! bully
          1. +6
            9 December 2021 20: 27
            Yes, here she is, the "beauty" who gave the name to the phenomenon in the life of people. Already takes horror, looking. But there was also something else. Poor medicine in the 18th century was not conducive to women's health. Some could give birth to a dozen, and many - not one. Therefore, widows with children in those days were in great demand. A woman who gives birth to one is guaranteed to give birth to another. Imagine, even in Russian villages they willingly married widows with children. And on childless - no.
          2. +1
            14 December 2021 11: 02
            A bad insect cannot be called a good name!
            here not from the point of "conceit", but from the point of broadening one's horizons - spiders have nothing to do with insects, they are arthropods, like crabs, crayfish and shrimps.
  9. +15
    9 December 2021 19: 46
    In America, Berthier took part in some battles (Battle of Yorktown
    There he was noted by Rochambeau himself in a report to the Minister of War, the campaign must be considered very successful for him. Except, of course, the death of his brother Charles. And the war was unusual for the French - Fresen noted that "in Newport there are no dinner parties, no theaters, no performances, I miss Europe and its culture." The French also noted the peculiarities of the local social structure. Jose-Edouard de Coriolis, the father of the famous French mathematician Gaspard-Gustave de Coriolis, said in surprise: “The rules here are completely different than in Europe. In the Old World, if the troops are marching, they, passing by any inn, can take horses, carts, or whatever they like - they can settle down, and if the owner refuses, they invite gendarmes. In America, people say that they are free, and if the innkeeper does not like the look or color of your face, he simply will not settle you and you will have to look for housing elsewhere. " Axel von Fersen: “The spirit of patriotism here exists only in a dozen people, and they really make very big sacrifices on the altar of freedom and independence; the rest think only about personal interests. Money is their God, their greed is simply unbearable. They mercilessly charge us excessive prices for everything, and we feel more enemies than friends. These are people without honor, because honor for them cannot be compared with gold and silver. " Rochambeau brought with him to America a million livres in silver in Spanish pesos, but his agents spent 700 thousand livres on purchases by August. French Finance Minister Jacques Necker clutched at his head - the maintenance of the expeditionary corps in America costs 375 thousand livres per month, while in France it is three times cheaper! In total, the financing of Rochambeau's expeditionary force cost the French treasury a gigantic amount - 10 million livres, not counting the 6.6 million that Rochambeau lent to Washington so that it could staff and supply the Continental Army for the 1781 campaign.
    1. +5
      10 December 2021 08: 59
      Money is their God, their greed is simply unbearable. They mercilessly charge us excessive prices for everything, and we feel more enemies than friends.


      I studied your comment, dear Crowe, yesterday and very carefully. And therefore, I doubt the assertion of some historians that Berthier returned from America, having gathered there liberal ideas that inspired him. Perhaps in contrast to what he saw - both in America and at home.
      It seems to me that Berthier was just an adequate person, an opponent of any kind of violence, a humanist. In America, rather, he has accumulated slogans that need to be kept in reserve - those that, at the right time, help to demonstrate their loyalty to the Jacobins, so that, due to their origin, they do not fall under the distribution. For the rampant Jacobin terror horrified him. Reshambo could not stand it, left, and, now serving under the command of General Luckner, Berthier tried to soften the ruthlessness of the manifestations of the new system. This aroused suspicion among the Jacobin government - he did not interrupt Berthier's ties with his family, close to the royalists, and did not seek to crack down on the royalists, contacted officers of noble origin, boldly defended them. Therefore, despite the positive feedback from his commanders, they looked very closely at Berthier, he was on suspicion! In vain did General Custine write to the Minister of War: "In the name of the Republic, send Berthier to help me in my difficulties," and the Jacobin commissars from the army reported that "Berthier had achieved the respect and trust of all good patriots." Berthier was not helped by the valor and talents shown by him in suppressing the royalist rebellion in the Vendée, where two horses were killed in one of the battles under him, and he himself was seriously wounded. Minister of War Bushott was not a fool, he saw that the Jacobin terror caused internal rejection in Berthier, and dismissed him from the army with the wording "Berthier's loyalty to the Republic was insincere." In his defense, Berthier sent a letter to the Committee of Public Safety, which contained the lines: "I have a pure heart, and I have never engaged in intrigues, always following the principles of freedom and respect for the sovereignty of the nation."
      That was the whole truth about him.
  10. +8
    9 December 2021 21: 32
    Why did I pay so much attention to the origins of Marshal Berthier? Because, in comparison with my father, nature on the marshal has a little rest. His father was a very decisive person, which is why the future marshal was not born into a commoner family, as he should have, but into the family of a nobleman who received the title of outstanding service. Having inherited a high intellect from his father, Louis-Alexander did not inherit his determination.
    During the period of the outbreak of revolutionary unrest and the growing conflict between the old and the new, for some time he could not dare to accept either side. As the historian Dederfield notes, “he just waited for a shoulder to lean on, and when it did, he followed him for twenty years. to his death. "
    One can agree or disagree with the last statement of the historian, but it seems to me that Berthier was a brilliant performer, but not an actor of history. He was not confused by ideology.
  11. +2
    10 December 2021 12: 16
    Looking ahead a bit.
    After the overthrow of the Jacobin dictatorship of 9 Thermidor, and in fact - mass terror and the elimination of the atmosphere of universal fear, suspicion and denunciations in 1795, Berthier was restored in all his rights and sent as chief of staff to the army of General Kellerman, the hero of Valmy and the commander of the Alpine army. Without receiving any rewards. But Berthier is not a careerist who is capable of harboring any grievances because of this, he is a man of action, adapted by nature to conscientiously fulfill assigned duties at any workplace and therefore has earned a reputation as a good staff officer and organizer.
    And therefore, a short time later, his surname will begin to be pronounced next to the surname of General Buonaparte - the future entry of the political horizon.
    Hearing about Berthier's abilities, the general, who was also called by his last name, and not by his name, Napoleon, invited him to head the headquarters of the Italian army, which he headed. Clever Berthier, who also heard about the ambitious general, sensed his prospects and did not refuse. This is how the tandem developed - a decisive commander and an active, intelligent chief of staff. Berthier did not lose by contacting Napoleon. He would hardly have achieved such honors in subsequent years, had the royal power been preserved. Even with his talents and royalist connections. Constant close cooperation with the chief of staff with the commander-in-chief, and then the emperor, glued to Berthier the nickname "wife of the emperor", given to him by mocking soldiers. But this is so, stories.
    Already during the first meeting with Napoleon, the shrewd Berthier realized who was in front of him and after the meeting said: "It would be wonderful to serve under him!" And so it happened, he devotedly served Napoleon until 1814.
    And Napoleon himself made the following psychological portrait of his closest assistant, in fact, his "right hand": "Berthier was an extremely active man; he accompanied the commander-in-chief on all reconnaissance and trips, without the slightest slowdown in the course of affairs ... He was indecisive and did not have the ability to command troops, but possessed all the qualities of a good chief of staff. He knew how to disassemble maps and plans and make reconnaissance; personally supervised the dispatch of orders; easily, simply and clearly made up the dispositions of the most complex movements. "
    These rather cold words describe a middle-aged general who "turned staff affairs into science and high art at the same time."
    And Berthier, entering the service of the young Napoleon, said: "Remember that one day it will be very great to be the second person after Bonaparte."
    Berthier's experience in organizing staff work already at that time became a classic and was later adopted by more than one generation of staff officers of many armies of the world.
  12. VLR
    +3
    10 December 2021 12: 54
    [quote = Crowe] [quote] the campaign must be admitted as very successful for him. Except, of course, the death of brother Charles. [/ Quote]
    By the way, Charles Berthier, brother of the future marshal, died in America not in battle, but in a duel.
  13. +3
    10 December 2021 13: 35
    Quote: knn54
    It is not known what the outcome of the battle at Waterloo would have been if Berthier had been next to Napoleon.


    Most likely the same. And even if Napoleon won this battle, the outcome of the campaign would still not be in his favor.
  14. 0
    17 December 2021 18: 39
    Dimwitted Napoleon !. Or a stupid jealous man.