In the US press: Russian electronic warfare and air defense systems are capable of nullifying the effectiveness of Bayraktar and other UAVs of the Ukrainian Armed Forces

Some Western experts wrongly believe that UAVs can give Ukraine a chance to win in a possible war with Russia. On the contrary, thanks to the Russian drones the entire Ukrainian defense system can be reset.

This is how David Hambling argues in an article published by the American magazine Forbes.

The US press claims that in the likely Russian-Ukrainian war, the main weapons I can be Drones. In particular, Kyiv has high hopes for Bayraktar TB2 drones supplied by Turkey. First of all, they expect that in the Donbas they are able to show the same result that the Azerbaijani army managed to achieve with their help in Karabakh. And along with the Bayraktars, Ukraine has various loitering ammunition and kamikaze drones.

But the fact is that Russia has something to respond to. In particular, this opinion was expressed in an interview with Hambling by the American military expert Samuel Bendett. He believes that the same Bayraktar TB2s will not create serious problems for the Russian defense system, which has the most advanced electronic warfare and air defense systems.

Russian electronic warfare and air defense systems are capable of nullifying the effectiveness of Bayraktar and other UAVs of the Ukrainian Armed Forces.

In addition, Russia has a significant arsenal of its own unmanned vehicles, including UAVs "Orlan-10", "Orion" and "Outpost". These vehicles are capable of conducting reconnaissance at long and medium distances. Such a technique may well affect the outcome of the alleged war with Ukraine, since it will allow Russian artillery to receive the coordinates of targets in the shortest possible time and effectively destroy them.

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[Ross xnumx]

Russian electronic warfare and air defense systems are capable of nullifying the effectiveness of Bayraktar and other UAVs of the Ukrainian Armed Forces

Which confirms that any insignificance, raised to any degree by insignificance, will remain.

[knn54]

- advanced means of electronic warfare and air defense.
Indeed, the fight against UAVs is an INTEGRATED approach.
Including the availability of RTR funds.
This is an automated system, with AI.
It is necessary (for fire damage) to add light attack aircraft, for example, the UBS Yak-130, because helicopters cannot always cope with faster drones.
The "Derivation-Air Defense" complex will make it possible to destroy UAVs even before they launch weapons of destruction.
As for electronic warfare, the most EFFECTIVE means of electronic warfare against UAVs is jamming the Satellite RadioNavigation Signal.
And the last - if there is a failure / absence of at least one component of the system, effective countermeasures to drones, especially swarms, will become impossible.

[venik]

Quote: ROSS 42

Which confirms that any insignificance, raised to any degree by insignificance, will remain.

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Everything is simple, Yuri Vasilievich, even from the point of view of mathematics it turns out: 0 x 0 = 0 (ZERO!)
And mathematics is such a thing: you can't argue with it! And if you try to argue, you will be the loser!

[Irek]

They gave them bullshit for big money, and they pee from the peremog to the salwar.

[Uncle lee]

Quote: Irek

from peremog to shalwar they piss.

And with boiling water! And their salvars are already Turkish!

[lis-ik]

Quote: Irek

They gave them bullshit for big money, and they pee from the peremog to the salwar.

Armenia had our electronic warfare systems. I don’t know for what reasons, but they didn’t help much. And here is the stakeholder statement

Baykar Tech CEO Haluk Bayraktar said that Russian RES systems were completely incapable of interfering with TB2: “Russian electronic warfare systems will not be able to interfere with Bayraktar TB2 even for one hour. Turkish drones will always be able to stay in the air. ”The fighting over Nagorno-Karabakh, Libya and, probably, Syria confirms the validity of Haluk Bayraktar's statements.

By the way, the British are planning to buy a large batch of TV2, based on the results of their tests. Maybe it's not that bullshit after all.

[Igor Valimukhametov]

Bayraktars are a well-advertised product. Where the military claps their ears and hope for a chance, they are able to make a rustle. As soon as they run into competent air defense technology, the bayraktopad begins. And the events in Nagorno-Karabakh convincingly showed only one thing: this is how you can fuck up everything, voting for the traitor Pashinyan. Who opposed Erdogan's thugs? Weakly armed militias, whom the Armenians, in fact, betrayed. They got used to the fact that Russia must do everything for them and will still always be to blame for everything and for everything, and they themselves conduct exercises behind their backs with NATO, allies ...

[tralflot1832]

Yes, Forbes should strive for zero. The obsession of the Unified State Exam of the whole world has seized upon journalism. A drone can destroy the management of the military and the state? Somehow it got stuck in Karabakh.

[Two]

Let's take a look! So far, only texts.

[Runner2022]

Syria. Look.

[Fungus]

I would very much like to see bayraktaropad. We must protect the militias.

[rotmistr60]

Russian electronic warfare and air defense systems are capable of nullifying the effectiveness of Bayraktar and other UAVs of the Ukrainian Armed Forces

This will not affect the sectarians from the "Bayraktar's Witnesses" sect. As they prayed to "Bayraktar", they will continue to pray and preach, knocking at every door. It all started with the Azerbaijanis, who created this sect.

[kytx]

The Azerbaijanis did not create any sect, they competently conducted a campaign with the massive use of UAVs. Against an outdated army without a normal air defense system and aviation in general. The end is a little predictable.
But outsiders, narrow-minded people believed in the wunderwaffe.
And advertising will not hurt the Turks, the bayraktars began to sell well abroad.

[WIKI]

Quote: rotmistr60

Russian electronic warfare and air defense systems are capable of nullifying the effectiveness of Bayraktar and other UAVs of the Ukrainian Armed Forces

Actually, this is not an expert opinion, but the Russian Ministry of Defense. “The Russian military recognizes the Turkish TB2 drone as a force multiplier for the Ukrainian forces, but at the same time, the Ministry of Defense claims that its more advanced electronic warfare [electronic warfare], radar detection and anti-aircraft systems defenses can detect and neutralize this drone without endangering forces on the ground, ”Bendett says. https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidhambling/2021/12/02/how-drones-could-tip-balance-in-ukraine-russia-conflict/?sh=e6a8c0f275be
All news publications on VO should be checked. Instead of a professional editor, there is an ordinary political instructor.

[Sergey Aleksandrovich]

You probably think that you have communicated something important, but I can assure you that what you have written is impossible to understand. Your deep thought is hidden so deeply that it is not possible to get it without additional explanations.

[WIKI]

What is not clear here. The expert voiced the opinion of the Russian Ministry of Defense on this issue, but not his own. "but at the same time, the Department of Defense claims that its more advanced electronic warfare [electronic warfare], radar detection and air defense systems can detect and neutralize this drone without posing a threat to forces on the ground. "
And in the article it is attributed to an expert.

[Sergey Aleksandrovich]

So it was necessary to write, otherwise they caught up with turbidity.

[WIKI]

Of course, it's nice when your opponent praises you, but publications such as this one are simply a riot of people for the emotions the political instructor needs. I don't want to be a toy in the hands of politicians. In one word it is called propaganda.

[Siberian 66]

This is how they persuade us, obsessively (by the movement of troops) and unobtrusively (through the description of the weakness of the Ukrainian Armed Forces) that you enter, everything will be easy .. Everyone will fall, everyone will surrender, you just start ... It would be better to write how and with what they have already prepared to respond in the economy, politics, and militarily .. They have already calculated their gesheft mercilessly precisely, in relation to Ukraine, which has become a bargaining chip ..

[Egoza]

Quote: Sibiryak 66

They have already calculated their gesheft mercilessly accurately, in relation to Ukraine, which has become a bargaining chip ..

Well, now Yatsenyuk will be appointed president (Nuland talked to him for a very long time) and then EVERYTHING will definitely be. Although there is another option - Klitschko. With the same result! )))

[Oksana V.]

Klitschko is better off laughing after him in the circus.

[rocket757]

Some Western experts wrongly believe that UAVs are capable of giving Ukraine a chance to win in a possible war with Russia.

... Experts know ..... and talkers offer different fantasies.

[Engineer Schukin]

Quote: rotmistr60

Russian electronic warfare and air defense systems are capable of nullifying the effectiveness of Bayraktar and other UAVs of the Ukrainian Armed Forces

This will not affect the sectarians from the "Bayraktar's Witnesses" sect. As they prayed to "Bayraktar", they will continue to pray and preach, knocking at every door. It all started with the Azerbaijanis, who created this sect.

But what could the Witnesses of Bayraktar have to do with the Electronic Warfare Witnesses, who every day land Reapers on their couches.

[Suomynona]

And the donald's send cookies for scrap

[bar]

They took it and broke it off. But the peremoga was so close ...

[Alexander 3]

Any action causes opposition. I'm talking about drones and electronic warfare systems. But for this you need to have a scientific and technical base, which is not in Ukraine.

[Essex62]

Only real hostilities can confirm or deny such claims.

[Runner2022]

Syria. The efficiency of Bayraktarov in areas controlled by videoconferencing and SSO - 0%

[outsider]

- You're lying - as always, as usual.

[Runner2022]

Pfft ... you are already tired of poking into the materiel

[Essex62]

Different theaters. Different level of equipment of the enemy. Why does it seem to everyone that there are only stupid people on the other side? We are one people, only they are today under the depressions.

[Fisherman]

At least one sober view that if the Russian electronic warfare and air defense systems laid down on the ground HALF OF ALL UAVs released by Turkey for the entire time, then there is clearly a tendency and even a system!

[outsider]

- The humor is that Russian electronic warfare and air defense systems did not lay down half of all enemy UAVs ...

[Fisherman]

More than 60 of the 112 issued were shot down or planted in Syria, Libya, Karabakh etc /

[outsider]

- Would you like to bring heels of video to this?

[Fisherman]

Contact Rosvor or Rostec, for serious clients they provide such materials in the form, including video, and indicating the places of use. It is precisely the mistake of the Turks and Israelis that they are everywhere for internal political use waving such videos and their methods of using drones are instantly taken into account by the developers of anti-UAV weapons.

[outsider]

- I already cited a video (1 hour 41 minutes) in which "Bayraktars" destroy HUNDREDS of ground targets: tanks, art. guns, transport vehicles, groups of enemy manpower - nowhere is there a video "vice versa" - wherever "Pantsir", "Buk" and "Tor" would destroy dozens of "Bayraktar". This means that there are no such videos..

[Fisherman]

it means that you are propagandizing our enemies, and nothing more. Shooting from the air primitive armed forces such as Armenia, or Libya, or units of Iranian proxies that do not have air defense - this is not at all proof that the Bayraktars are indestructible. The military experts are well aware of the number of downed Bayraktars and the place of their massive "barraktaropads", they even publish these data. Video from Bayraktar goes online, they are sharpened for online support, so they manage to upload videos for advertising to the base, this is the specificity of UAVs, but it is not so easy to shoot how Bayraktar is shot down so as not to reveal guidance systems, target tracking and methods of dealing with them ... Smart military men do not shout at every corner about their methods of struggle, and the Turks are more traders than successful warriors, the main thing for them is to sell more of their airplanes with weapons, and therefore they threw their industrial garbage on the Web.

[outsider]

it means that you are propagandizing our enemies, and nothing more.

- This is not propaganda, this is information.

Shooting from the air primitive armed forces such as Armenia, or Libya ...

- Completely lie ?! The "primitive" Armed Forces of Armenia were equipped with full-fledged Russian "Shells", "Torahs" and electronic warfare stations - Russian-made, not new Guinea's. And there were beats "Bayraktars" "in the tail and in the mane", they were "rolled into dust."

Video from Bayraktar goes online, they are sharpened for online support, so they manage to upload videos for advertising to the base, this is the specificity of UAVs, but it is not so easy to shoot how Bayraktar is shot down so as not to reveal guidance systems, target tracking and methods of dealing with them ...

- Ooty-ways! Russian short-range and medium-range air defense systems are being sold and "so given" to dozens of countries around the world - what else is there to hide ?! Why tell these stupid fables?

Smart military men don't scream at every corner about their methods of fighting.

- Some kind of "kindergarten of the city of Uryupinsk" - why carry this stupid blizzard ?! What woodpecker would believe in her?

[A. h. 52]

And what was not brought down in Syria or Karabakh?

[Runner2022]

It is enough to stop reading Russophobic garbage dumps to understand everything.

[Observer2014]

And what was not brought down in Syria or Karabakh?

Because the Armenians have no money for normal air defense.

[Sergey Aleksandrovich]

They had no will to win, not money. For so many years not to recognize Karabakh as a part of Armenia, this means in advance to doom oneself to defeat ideologically, from the very beginning.

[Oksana V.]

Like any weapon, Bayraktar can harm the enemy, but it is certainly not a miracle weapon.

[outsider]

- While against Russian short-range and medium-range air defense systems and Russian means of electronic warfare Bayraktar is a "miracle weapon", look to the fullest enlightenment of the brain:

[Black Colonel]

The casseroles have long been zombified with cookies and do not give account of the existing realities.

[Bshkaus]

Some Western experts wrongly believe that UAVs are capable of giving Ukraine a chance to win

Yesesino! Russian weapons are the most invincible in the world, Russian patriots exclaimed and threw their caps into the air.
And at this time the bayraktars were rolling out the Armenians, Libyans and Syrians with invincible shells like a nut.
In addition to the characteristics of the weapon, the fundamental will to use it and the experience of the operators are important, otherwise these systems are worthless.
And we threw the Armenians under the CSTO, the LPNR with confession subtly raped, Kiev was never released

[Normann]

Only Russian weapons were used by completely different people, do not find a pattern

[Bshkaus]

Only Russian weapons were used by completely different people, do not find a pattern

Are you saying that other nations are subhuman?

[Normann]

You have a very strange logic ...

[Bshkaus]

You have a very strange logic ...

My logic is exactly the same as it is taught at the university in the 1st year.
You didn’t say:

poorly trained crews used Russian weapons

You said:

Russian weapons were used by completely different people, do not find a pattern

Having drawn the identity between such concepts as nationality, in this case "Russian" and the quality of personality, in your case "the ability to control technology."
There is no logic in such an algorithm of thoughts, but there is ordinary fascism, which you do not notice.

[sen]

First of all, they expect that in the Donbas they are able to show the same result, which with their help the Azerbaijani army was able to achieve in Karabakh.

No. American satellites spotted our electronic warfare on the border of Donbass. So if anything, we will help.

[prior]

Bayraktars, bayraktars ...
Try to calculate the damage that can be caused to Ukraine by the destruction of the Kiev Sea dam in Vyshgorod. This alone will wash away all the bridges across the Dnieper and half of all Dnieper cities.
And who is there to fight after this flood?
So what's the panheads? Maybe it's better to give up right away? Or do you still have a desire to shoot?

[Sergey Aleksandrovich]

According to this scheme, hostilities with Ukraine cannot be waged, only the Georgian scenario of 08.08.08 is acceptable, with the destruction of only the military infrastructure.

[ibn.shamai]

How many bp does Ukraine have? Maybe a dozen, maybe two, and they will make the weather! By the way, they fall not even badly! They painted them straight super-duper!

[Observer2014]

Bayraktar

-This is DRYNDULET. As well as all similar systems, which will be multiplied by a strong anti-aircraft defense instantly. All the "success" of which means only the absence of a normal air defense system. That's it! One fighter for example MIG29 is how many missiles the air will take with it. So many Bayraktar will collapse.

[outsider]

Quote: Normann

Only Russian weapons were used by completely different people, do not find a pattern

- Now, if the Normans used it, then it would show itself! Where can one get so many Normans in Tatarstan ?!

[outsider]

Quote: Runner2022

Pfft ... you are already tired of poking into the materiel

- You have no normal idea of ​​any materiel at all. Neither Russian nor American ...

[older]

Quote: Observer2014

Bayraktar

-This is DRYNDULET. As well as all similar systems, which will be multiplied by a strong anti-aircraft defense instantly. All the "success" of which means only the absence of a normal air defense system. That's it! One fighter for example MIG29 is how many missiles the air will take with it. So many Bayraktar will collapse.

What if Satan, not ten Satans?

[outsider]

Quote: Observer2014

And what was not brought down in Syria or Karabakh?

Because the Armenians have no money for normal air defense.

- Normal air defense systems are Israeli ones. As a last resort - American ... Today, Russia has no normal air defense systems capable of withstanding Western air attack weapons.... And out of stock. And not in the project. Due to lack of necessary technologies.