Operation Bernhard. Counterfeiters of the Third Reich

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Operation Bernhard. Counterfeiters of the Third Reich
Counterfeit five pound bill

Weapon of war


Counterfeit money appeared almost immediately after real money. History money knows a lot of bright fakes, real masterpieces, created by single craftsmen and well-organized groups. However, the fakes that are closest to the original have always been issued by states.

State counterfeiting has been known since ancient times. Both in ancient times and in the Middle Ages, rulers lightened gold and silver coins, or added less noble metals to them. For example, the French king Philip IV the Handsome (reigned from 1285 to 1314) had another nickname - "Red Nosed". The king ordered to lighten the gold coins, there was copper inside them - a thin gold surface was quickly erased and copper showed through, first of all, on the prominent part of the coinage - the monarch's nose.



It happened that damage to a coin led to riots and uprisings. So, in Russia, the monetary reform of the government of Alexei Mikhailovich (the release of copper money at the price of silver) and the massive release of unsecured copper money, including by high-ranking counterfeiters, led to the Copper Riot of 1662.

Counterfeiting has also been a long-standing method of warfare.

So, the Commonwealth during the Troubles minted Russian coins of reduced weight. Sweden did the same. The secret minting of counterfeit Russian money was organized with the aim of maintaining their troops and obtaining additional income.

During the Seven Years' War (1756–1763), the Prussian king Frederick II was noted for the large-scale production of counterfeit money from hostile states. At the mints of Prussia itself and in other principalities, more than 200 million fake Reichthalers were made. The most popular was the middle Augustodore (gold coin), which was minted in 1755-1756. Its weight during the war was reduced from 6 to 4,2 g. Merchants, focusing on the pre-war date, took them without hesitation. It was a relatively easy way to deal with financial difficulties and finance the war.

Other German states followed the example of Prussia. As a result, the uncontrolled issuance of money and massive damage to the coin led to the collapse of the financial system in Northern Europe. But Prussia withstood the burden of the war and ruined its neighbors, shifting part of the war costs onto them.

The French ruler Napoleon Bonaparte also actively used fakes. Counterfeits were used to finance wars and as an instrument of financial and economic war, in order to weaken the economy of an enemy country.

The French counterfeited the money of their main opponents - the Austrian Empire, Prussia and England. Before the trip to Russia, they started to counterfeit Russian banknotes. Forgeries were printed in Dresden and Warsaw. Counterfeit money was also printed in the field printing house. "Napoleonki" were actively used to purchase food and fodder from the local population.

When, after World War II, the Russian government began to change banknotes, 70 million rubles more was seized than the treasury released. True, the fakes were notable for their low quality of execution, in particular, there were grammatical errors.

Before World War II


During the Russo-Japanese War of 1904-1905. the Japanese distributed counterfeit Russian rubles in Korea and Manchuria. The local population had little knowledge of the money of the Russian Empire, and it was easy to deceive them.

Before the outbreak of the First World War, Russian banknotes of 10, 25, 50, 100 and 500 ruble denominations began to be produced in Vienna. Germany also produced counterfeit money during World War II, in particular American dollars, which were thrown into the United States.

In the 20s, the German and British special services were engaged in counterfeiting Soviet funds for the purpose of economic sabotage. So, in the printing house of Frankfurt am Main, the mass production of USSR money began. However, foreigners were let down by the comparatively high quality of counterfeits. In Soviet Russia, they quickly discovered that the forgeries were not made by local specialists using handicraft methods, but came from abroad. Law enforcement agencies carried out a number of operational-search measures, detained distributors and closed the channels for the supply of counterfeit money.

Also, before the outbreak of World War II, the production of counterfeit funds was often associated with White émigré organizations associated with the special services of the West, interested in destabilizing the situation in Soviet Russia. Counterfeit Soviet money was made in Poland, Hungary, France and Manchuria.

Fake chervonets were smuggled into the USSR.

Counterfeiters from the Third Reich


During the Second World War, the activities of counterfeiters of Nazi Germany took on a large scale.

Before the invasion of the USSR, it was decided to print Soviet rubles in the Reich in order to provide the troops with means of payment. The Germans could not create a high-quality "watermark" depicting Lenin. In addition, a rationing system was in effect, and counterfeit rubles were mostly dead. The 1947 monetary reform finished off the fakes.

Also, the Nazis made fakes in the occupied countries and even forged the money of the allies.

However, the allies did not disdain such methods.

The British dropped counterfeit ration cards over Germany, causing disruptions in the supply of the civilian population.

The main target of the Germans was the British pound. The British pound sterling was the world's currency at the time. Therefore, the Germans went to great lengths to manufacture counterfeit British pounds. The operation was secret, so the world community learned about it in 1955, when the memoirs of one of the leaders of the SS, Wilhelm Hethl, came out.

The idea to bring down the reputation of the British pound and cause the financial collapse of Great Britain was born in 1939 in the department of the head of the General Directorate of Imperial Security, R. Heydrich. The money was proposed to be dropped onto enemy territory from the air. With Hitler's consent, Heydrich created a special group. The operation was named Andreas. The project was led by SS Sturmbannfuehrer Alfred Naujoks and cryptographer Albert Langer. The Germans decided to create a perfect copy of the original and focused on the most common £ 5 bill.

However, it was not possible to create a fake high-quality analogue of the banknote. In addition, at this time in Berlin they still hoped to come to an agreement with London. Starting the war with the Russians, the Nazis wanted to achieve peace with England. Therefore, they have not yet started a "financial war" with Britain.

The project was closed, but in the summer of 1942 the head of the SS G. Himmler resumed the operation. The Reichsfuehrer SS planned to use the money to finance his department, selling counterfeits in neutral countries, and receiving funds for the purchase weapons and strategic materials.


Operation Bernhard


The project was led by Sturmbannführer Bernhard Kruger. The Sachsenhausen concentration camp became the base of the German counterfeiters. Counterfeiting prisoners, specialists in engraving, printing and banking worked on the project. Up to 150 specialists worked in the concentration camp. The fakes were of high quality, and only specialists in their field could distinguish fakes from the original. Banknotes were received in denominations of 5, 10, 20, 50, 100 and even 500 and 1000 pounds sterling. But out of caution, banknotes of the highest denominations were not used.

The total number of banknotes created during Operation Bernhard is, according to various estimates, from 132 million to 300 million pounds.

Counterfeit money was exported abroad, where agents exchanged it for Swiss francs and US dollars, gold, jewelry, bought strategic raw materials, weapons and food. The pounds were also used to buy information, to finance agents and pay traitors. Large consignments of pounds ended up in Italy, where, in anticipation of the collapse of the Mussolini regime, the population willingly bought "reliable" pounds.

The Nazis also tried to counterfeit American dollars. But they were better protected than the British pounds. In early 1945, counterfeiters were able to prepare 100-dollar bills, but did not manage to complete the process before the end of the war.

In March 1945, the object was transferred from Sachsenhausen to the Mauthausen concentration camp in Austria. Production was going to resume in the mountain tunnels. Germany was already in agony and the project was closed. Equipment and money were partially destroyed, partially drowned in Austrian lakes. The prisoners were going to be shot in the Ebensee camp, but they did not have time. Upon learning of the approach of the Allied troops, the camp guards fled. Kruger was arrested by the British, but no charges were brought against him. Soon the former SS man was released and began to work in a printing house.

After the war, the Bank of England did not seek and seize forgeries, and they went along with real money. In this story, there are a lot of dark places, obviously related to the interests of Britain, representatives of big business and former leaders of the Third Reich, who successfully "painted" as civilians, but retained ties with post-war neo-Nazi organizations.


Central entrance to the Sachsenhausen concentration camp
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  1. +1
    25 November 2021 05: 50
    In addition, a rationing system was in effect, and counterfeit rubles were mostly dead. The 1947 monetary reform finished off the fakes.
    But some lovers of "antiquity and splendor" are wringing their hands - they say Stalin robbed the people once again.
    1. +6
      25 November 2021 06: 46
      The comment was deleted, but I will repeat a similar article, it was in the "Opinions" section a month ago, and I will even call the time 18:00. In that article, the same facts were set forth, only slightly expanded, in more detail about Operation Bernhard.
      1. +2
        25 November 2021 08: 44
        Quote: parusnik
        a similar article was in the "Opinions" section a month ago, and I will even call the time 18 hours 00 minutes.

        I, camerade, do not understand either - why should I rub this chewed-up topic of Bernhard's operation with Samson's gums? Much more interesting, to us, in my opinion, would be a subject about the banknote and coin crisis in Ingushetia during WWI and very original attempts to resolve it - for example, postage stamps as a means of payment during a period of shortage of coins. And, accordingly, a wave of fake stamps, which began to slap all printing houses in the western provinces. Well, and other fun.
        In addition, I do not quite understand why the Samsonovs' artel is silent about the fact that RI, too, did not disdain the minting of forgeries - during the Russian-Turkish war of 1808-1809, for example, Turkish kurus were minted.
        1. +3
          25 November 2021 17: 54
          So that's just the point ..
          1. +2
            25 November 2021 21: 17
            Quote: parusnik
            So that's just the point ..

            I wonder if you send an article, what are the chances that the artistic council will be supportive?
            1. +2
              26 November 2021 05: 47
              But try ... try is not torture wink
      2. +1
        27 November 2021 00: 52
        Quote: parusnik
        The comment was deleted, but I will repeat a similar article, it was in the "Opinions" section a month ago, and I will even call the time 18:00. In that article, the same facts were set forth, only slightly expanded, in more detail about Operation Bernhard.

        So this is Samsonov ... Somehow he expounds what others have previously told with knowledge of the matter.
    2. 0
      25 November 2021 07: 36
      Quote: Vladimir_2U
      In addition, the card system was in effect, and counterfeit rubles were mainly lying dead weight... The 1947 monetary reform finished off the fakes.
      But some lovers of "antiquity and splendor" are wringing their hands - they say Stalin robbed the people once again.


      The mention of the "dead" cargo is incorrect: cards and coupons were only documents, allowing purchase of goods at fixed prices.

      In addition, there were commercial shops and markets. The peasants had no food cards at all. Cards were not always purchased in full

      Market prices have increased tenfold. So the money was very "live" and in demand

      This time the government itself stated directly about the robbery of the population: in its decree of December 14, 1947, it was noted that when the monetary reform was carried out, "famous victims":
      "the state takes over most of the sacrifices. part of the victims took over and the population, especially since it is will be the last victim".

      Although, of course, the sacrifice was not the last (how many more were there!) And it was made at the expense of people.
      1. +3
        25 November 2021 08: 22
        Quote: Olgovich

        The mention of "dead" cargo is incorrect: cards and coupons were only documents allowing the purchase of goods at fixed prices.
        Pre-war prices! The cards allowed people with unchanged salaries since pre-war time to survive! The overwhelming majority of the population did not have any surplus money.

        Quote: Olgovich
        counterfeit rubles were mostly dead weight.


        Quote: Olgovich
        Market prices have increased tenfold. So the money was very "live" and in demand
        Wipe your eyes, we are talking about counterfeit money. And in markets and lumps, most of the population bought in extreme cases.

        Quote: Olgovich
        This time the government itself stated directly about the robbery of the population: in its decree of December 14, 1947, it was noted that during the monetary reform "famous victims" would occur:

        An ordinary robbery song.
        deposits of up to 3 thousand rubles inclusive remained unchanged, that is, 1 ruble was revalued with old money by 1 ruble with new money.
        These are six average salaries. And the speculators and who appropriated funds during the years of occupation did not have any deposits. It was precisely on them that the reform hit, deliberately. But cry about speculators and hucksters.
        1. +1
          25 November 2021 09: 02
          Quote: Vladimir_2U
          Wipe your eyes, we are talking about counterfeit money.

          if you wipe your ability to understand, you will see in the article the assertion that the counterfeit rubles were not lying because they were counterfeit, but because they are allegedly not needed with CARDS, which is not true.
          Quote: Vladimir_2U
          An ordinary robbery song.

          Didn’t get it again?

          This is what POWER ITSELF writes:
          On December 14, 1947, it was noted that during the monetary reform "famous victims" would occur:
          "The state takes on most of the sacrifices. Ho it is necessary that the POPULATION also take part of the victims, especially since this will be the last sacrifice. "

          PS Read several times, if one time is not enough. hi
          1. +1
            25 November 2021 09: 22
            Quote: Olgovich
            If you wipe your ability to understand, you will see in the article the assertion that counterfeit rubles were lying not because they were counterfeit, but because they are allegedly not needed WITH CARDS, which is not true.
            You immediately misinterpret what is right before your eyes!
            Quote: Olgovich
            counterfeit rubles were mostly dead weight.

            The words "mostly" imply limited use, not total negation. Once again: And in markets and lumps, most of the population bought in extreme cases.

            Quote: Olgovich
            This is what POWER ITSELF writes:
            Do you imagine yourself with power or what? laughing
            Quote: Olgovich
            This time the government itself stated directly about the robbery of the population.
            Or do you imagine that the robber during the robbery takes on most of the victims? Although why am I surprised ...

            Quote: Olgovich
            "The state takes over most of the victims. But it is necessary that the POPULATION also take part of the victims.
            1. +1
              25 November 2021 11: 00
              Quote: Vladimir_2U
              The words "mostly" imply limited use, not total negation.

              the words vtaty mean that the money was NOT USED, practically, at all.

              What is wrong: used and how!
              Quote: Vladimir_2U
              And in markets and lumps, most of the population bought in extreme cases.

              FULLY using the small money that he has, which they did not have as a "dead weight", for it is, albeit small, but a chance of survival

              Moreover, they were in short supply and they were often replaced with clothes, tools, valuables - everything that can be exchanged for food.
              Quote: Vladimir_2U
              Do you imagine yourself with power or what?
              Quote: Olgovich
              This time the government itself stated directly about the robbery of the population.
              Or do you imagine that the robber during the robbery takes on most of the victims? Although what am I surprised.

              And the second time didn't get it?

              Then THIRD time, for tankers lol : decree of the co-government of December 14, 1947

              mustto part the victims were also taken by the POPULATION, especially since this will be the last victim "
              .

              The state won (what did it "sacrifice"? - nothing), the population lost, in a word, everything is as always.
              1. -2
                25 November 2021 16: 19
                Quote: Olgovich
                So the money was very "live" and in demand

                Quote: Olgovich
                FULLY using the small money that he has, which they did not have as a "dead weight", for it is, albeit small, but a chance of survival
                "Live" cash was paid from the cash desks of enterprises and financial units, and there could not be significant amounts of counterfeit money. The people and the military did not have any noticeable amounts of fakes, but they accumulated among the hucksters and speculators, the cash, in principle, accumulated among these elements.
                Quote: Olgovich
                Moreover, they were in short supply and they were often replaced with clothes, tools, valuables - everything that can be exchanged for food.
                And this shows who had a lot of cash in their hands, not with the masses of the population, not with the military, but with speculators. It is a pity that you "do not understand" this.

                Quote: Olgovich
                Then the THIRD time, for tankers lol: the decree of the co-government of December 14, 1947.
                Well, what's the point of writing stupidity for the third time, does it make it smarter?

                Quote: Olgovich
                The state won (what did it "sacrifice"? - nothing), the population lost, in a word, everything is as always.
                You don't have to be an economist, you just need to use a little wits to understand that printing new money, delivering it around the country and organizing an exchange costs a lot.
                What prevents you from understanding this is unclear.
                I repeat for the second time:
                Quote: Vladimir_2U
                deposits of up to 3 thousand rubles inclusive remained unchanged, that is, 1 ruble was revalued with old money by 1 ruble with new money.
                That's it, salaries were given one to one, the contribution of at least 6 average salaries was saved. The overwhelming majority of the population did not suffer in any way.
                1. 0
                  26 November 2021 08: 44
                  Quote: Vladimir_2U
                  "Live" cash was paid from the cash desks of enterprises and financial units, and there will be significant amounts of counterfeit money could not... The people and the military did not have any noticeable amounts of fakes

                  your "statements" are worthless.

                  One of the stated goals of the reform is withdrawal from the turnover of fakes, their danger is recognized .. "Dead" money buried in the bank is not dangerous.
                  Quote: Vladimir_2U
                  And this shows who had a lot of cash on hand, not among the mass of the population, not among the military, but among speculators

                  What nonsense, contrary to even common sense: in the opinion of the beels, the bulk of the USSR's money was in ... hucksters. fool lol
                  Lavrov, yes ...
                  Quote: Vladimir_2U
                  Well, what's the point of writing stupidity for the third time, does it make it smarter?

                  This is a DIRECT quote from the STALIN decree. You called Stalin a fool lol
                  Quote: Vladimir_2U
                  You don't have to be an economist, you just need to use a little wits to understand that printing new money, delivering it around the country and organizing an exchange costs a lot.

                  you have to be a complete ichiot, so as not to know that new bills, instead of worn out old ones, are printed and delivered CONSTANTLY. Those. the old ones would have been replaced over time. And the cash money supply after the reform decreased by more than three times, from 43,6 to 14 billion rubles.

                  The state GOT RICH: huge emission money, issued during the war, accumulated by the population, was simply confiscated.

                  Moreover, it was the SIMPLE people who suffered, while the speculators and shadow traders, in the main, retained their capital.
            2. +3
              25 November 2021 13: 01
              Compare the Stalinist tyranny with the Khrushchev thaw.
              The 1947 monetary reform was carried out in the form of a denomination. Simultaneously with the monetary reform, the rationing system for the supply of food and industrial goods was abolished. In the course of the reform, the exchange of cash was carried out within one week, in remote regions of the Far North - within two weeks. When the salary was recalculated, money was exchanged in such a way that the salary remained unchanged. For deposits in Sberbank, amounts of up to 3 thousand rubles were also exchanged one to one, for deposits from 3 to 10 thousand rubles, savings were reduced by one third of the amount, for deposits over 10 thousand rubles, half of the amount was withdrawn. Those who kept money at home received one new ruble for ten old ones during the exchange. Preferential conditions for revaluation of savings were also established for holders of government bonds: bonds of mass loans were exchanged for bonds of a new loan at a ratio of 3: 1, bonds of a freely realizable loan of 1938 at a ratio of 5: 1, and bonds of a 1947 loan were not subject to revaluation. At the same time, the card system was canceled. Those. the reform was beneficial for the poorest population and those who worked honestly.
              In 1961, banknotes introduced in the course of the 1947 monetary reform were exchanged during the first quarter of 1961 without restrictions for new banknotes of a reduced format in a ratio of 10 to 1. In the same ratio, according to the decree of the Council of Ministers of the USSR of May 4, 1960 No. 470, a recalculation of wholesale, settlement and retail prices for goods and work, tariffs for services, purchase and delivery prices for agricultural products, as well as surcharges, markups and discounts established in fixed amounts, deposits of the population in savings banks and institutions of the State Bank USSR, tariff rates, piece rates, wages, salaries, fees, bonuses, as well as all other types of remuneration, expressed in fixed sums.
              The 1961 monetary reform, presented to the broad masses as a simple denomination, was in fact a devaluation of the Soviet ruble against foreign currencies and gold. Thus, the official US dollar exchange rate, which was 1: 4 before the reform, was not changed 10 times, like salaries, pensions, household deposits in savings banks and the scale of prices in the public sector of the economy, but only 4,44 times and after the reform amounted to 90 kopecks for 1 US dollar. In the same way, the gold content of the ruble was changed 4,44 times. If before the reform it was 0,222168 grams, then after the reform it was only 0,987412, in a supposedly 10 times more expensive ruble.
              At the same time, an actual 2,25-fold decrease in the gold content and the exchange rate of Soviet money against foreign currencies and, accordingly, a decrease in the purchasing power of ruble salaries (and not only in relation to imports, but also when buying jewelry, goods on collective farm and other markets) was presented in official reports as "an increase in the gold content and the exchange rate of the ruble."
              The collective farm market immediately felt this devaluation and prices on it in terms of old rubles soared up. In the conditions when private farms began to be squeezed, widespread speculation began, based on the resale of goods distributed to state stores. The store manager, store manager and salesperson suddenly became "respected" people. The already growing commodity hunger (a consequence of the rabid corn company) has sharply exacerbated due to the deficit artificially created by such dealers. With completely empty shelves in the store, goods were resold at exorbitant prices from under the counter or offered at the state price, but already as a bribe. Currency speculators and black-marketeers flourished, currency bad girls appeared, the OBKHSS was knocked down.
              At the end of May 1962, it was decided to increase retail prices for meat and meat products by an average of 30% and for butter by 25%. In the newspapers, this event was presented as "the request of all workers."
              In the fall of 1962, the Central Committee of the CPSU and the allied Council of Ministers issued a decree "On restoring order in the expenditure of bread resources", limiting the sale of bread to 2,5 kg per person - there was no longer enough grain for grinding. Not only white bread has disappeared from the shelves, but also semolina, noodles and other products.
              In 1963, the situation worsened. Due to the poor harvest, the gross grain harvest amounted to only 107,5 million tons (30% less than in 1962), and the yield dropped from 10,9 to 8,3 centners / ha (a consequence of the virgin campaign).
              To overcome the negative social consequences, on December 26, 1963, the Soviet Union was forced to purchase the first 12 million tons of grain from the United States. The Americans immediately inflated prices and deliberately began to drag out the negotiation process. Ultimately, the first American grain could be purchased only in 1964, after the removal of Khrushchev. For the purchase of this wheat in March 1964, by order of the Council of Ministers, 407 tons of gold were allocated, and in September of the same year, the Presidium of the Central Committee of the CPSU agreed to export precious stones and non-ferrous metals to receive tens of millions of dollars. In 1964, every third loaf of bread was baked from imported grain.
              In December 1964, the Presidium of the CPSU Central Committee approved a draft resolution on the sale of 4 thousand tons of nickel and the purchase of 2 million tons of bread. A little later, in February 1965, the supreme party body approved the decision on the additional purchase of one more million tons of grain, allocating 45 million rubles for this, received from the sale of mink skins (for 2,1 million rubles), diamonds (for 3,0 million rubles), lead (4,5 million rubles), silver (11,3 million rubles) and other jewelry and non-ferrous metals. The main suppliers of grain to the USSR were: Australia (1,3 million tons), Argentina (0,7 million tons), France (0,55 million tons) and Canada (0,37 million tons). In contrast to the Khrushchev time, purchases were carried out in small batches, which made it possible to avoid a speculative increase in grain prices, as well as an increase in freight rates.
              In the summer of 1965, due to a massive crop failure, the situation worsened even more, and Moscow decides to purchase additional 5 million tons of grain from abroad. This time, in addition to traditional precious metals and luxury goods (including 400 tons of silver, 1,3 million carats of diamonds, 2,2 million mink skins), 50 million tons of oil and almost 10 million tons of fuel oil (furnace and naval). The money received from the sale went not only to purchase wheat, but also to purchase 22 million m2 of woolen fabric (cord) and knitwear, and 350 thousand tons of steel pipes. Food products were also purchased: 96,8 thousand tons of meat and meat products, 40 thousand tons of bananas, 15 thousand tons of milk powder, 14 thousand tons of herring and 3,5 thousand tons of cheese. In early August, the country's leadership approved another decree on the purchase of 3 million tons of wheat, allocating 210 tons of gold for this purpose. Finally, in mid-September 1965, the state allocated another 30 tons of gold for the purchase of 500 thousand tons of wheat from Romania. In total, in 1965, 9,5 million tons of grain were imported, or almost 26% of the level of state grain procurements ...
              Since then, there has been a popular sign. If someone at the official level begins to broadcast about the horrors of Stalinism, then soon your pockets will be turned out and the latter will be deprived.
            3. 0
              25 November 2021 18: 33
              Do you imagine yourself with power or what?
              not only power! But also the ultimate truth laughing what can you do? Clinic! wassat
      2. +5
        25 November 2021 12: 37
        Although, of course, the sacrifice was not the last (how many more were there!) And it was made at the expense of people.
        - wow, how scary! My aunt, a Muscovite, told me. In the hungry post-war 40s, when everything was on ration cards in Moscow, two families lived in a communal apartment. One decent intelligent family - a husband and wife, of a specific nationality, about which one cannot speak badly. The other is a Russian locksmith from the "box" with his wife and a bunch of snotty children. In an intelligent family, the room was like a museum - everything was in antiques, and the wife always went out into the common kitchen in a chic silk robe. At the locksmith's house, they wore the same clothes they used to go to work and lived from hand to mouth.
        Naturally, the toad began to choke the locksmith - especially the silk robe did not give him rest.
        He decided to hang some antique bullshit from a neighbor, sell it and spend the money on his family. For a locksmith to open the lock is a simple matter, climbed in, took some crap, and before leaving he looked under the mattress of his neighbor. Wads of money lay under the mattress in even rows in several layers - everything that had been acquired by back-breaking labor during the war years. Judging by the volume of the money supply, there were about 2-3 million rubles. at the cost of the T-34 tank in 1945 142 thousand rubles. and with a very good salary for a worker of 800 rubles. The locksmith put the antique crap back in place and took a few wads of money from under the mattress. For the stolen loot, the locksmith bought the children an update, and his wife bought the same silk dressing gown as the neighbor's and a new saucepan. Little of! He was so morose from a freebie that he cooked borscht with meat in a new saucepan! However, even this shamelessness seemed to him not enough !! Therefore, he also bought sour cream for borscht !!!
        A neighbor, a naive soul, seeing sour cream and a new pot of borscht in the kitchen, did not think to count the money under the mattress. Instead, he, like any decent and intelligent person, was outraged by social injustice: all of Moscow on ration cards, and here, you know, borscht with meat and a silk robe !!! Being a respected and law-abiding citizen, the neighbor wrote a statement where necessary that the locksmith working in the "box" does not live within his means - he probably sells state secrets! - Spiyon!
        On the same day, the locksmith was swept to the Lubyanka, where this scoundrel immediately split! The funniest thing in this story was that the police were greeted with a search by an intelligent neighbor in a silk robe and even showed - over there, this thug locksmith lives! Imagine her disappointment, because then sheer xenophobia began. The Russian locksmith was released and even the pot of borscht was not confiscated! And the poor intelligent family disappeared without a trace along with the antiques. This is how the elite and the flower of the Russian liberal intelligentsia perished in the millstones of the Stalinist GULAGs.
        Another example, in another communal apartment where an inconspicuous employee lived - a rolling pitch, a podzabornaya poverty. When the currency reform was announced, he had a heart attack and amen! When we entered his room, there was literally only a nail for clothes, a bedside table and a bed. Looking at this poverty, the neighbors threw themselves off and buried the poor fellow with their own money. Nobody looked at his junk and they decided to burn him along with the bugs. In the fire, the mattress burst, but there are the same wads of money as in the first case. In general, in 1947, there was an epidemic of heart attacks throughout the country. Worse than Covid. That is why Stalin is so hated by this very nationality at the genetic level.
        Anti-Sovietism is the highest form of Russophobia. Moreover, such Russophobia, which interrupts the feelings of self-preservation and the feeling of preserving their species and their nationality. In the late 90s, I had a chance to travel by train. One of the fellow travelers was a candidate of some sciences, who simply shone with her well-being. Dad is a professor. She inherited from him a three-room Stalinka in the center of Novosibirsk, a stone's throw from the apartment, a major garage in a garage cooperative. It goes without saying that dad had a luxurious summer cottage for those times not far from Akademgorodok, and, in addition, a garage for a boat with a boat at a cooperative boat station on the Ob reservoir. Everything, including my father's professorship, of the Stalin era. Nevertheless, she hated Stalin with fierce hatred. I ask - why? It turns out that she has a bunch of relatives who were starving in besieged Leningrad only because the tyrant Stalin refused to surrender the city. Honestly, I was embarrassed to tell her that her relatives with their nationality would be very lucky if, in the event of the surrender of Leningrad, they would get alive to the best health camps in Europe - Buchenwald, Auschwitz, Maidanek, etc.
        But at the word of Gorby, she shone like Ilyich's lamp. I ask again:
        - Why?
        - Well, of course !!! He is so cute !!! Such mi-mi-mi !!! He broke the Berlin Wall !!!
        - And how did this wall interfere with you personally?
        - Uh-uh ... Me-e-e ... N-oo-oo-oo ... The Germans are so happy, so happy !!! ...
        And again I was ashamed to ask her - what is the Holocaust, and why after it she loves the Germans so much and hates the USSR?
        How they became innocent victims of political repression. In 2013, the company of teachers started talking about a new law on education. Take it, and blurt out that under Stalin the professors lived much better. This was heard by the old grandfather, who after that was perhaps not made out by the karachun. He started yelling, spitting, promised to hit me with a crutch, etc. It turns out that he is an innocent victim of political repression, which, by the way, did not prevent him from defending his Ph.D. thesis and becoming an assistant professor while still in the USSR. I deeply doubt that he once had to beggar.
        According to him, in 1938, as a schoolboy, this grandfather demonstrated his erudition with a quote from Hitler in German at a lesson in German for fun. For the sake of truthfulness, he barked this quote, but so quickly that I only realized that Hitler had turned down something about the old and new school. Immediately after the lesson, the German woman “knocked” where necessary, from there they called the political department, and two hours after school, Dad's officer whipped him like a sidor's goat. His dad never got to the war, because a few months later he was arrested and for 18 years innocently felling the forest. Rehabilitated after the XX Congress of the CPSU.
        I did not argue with the nutty, but thought to myself:
        1. A Soviet schoolchild in the era of the complete absence of the Internet is scribbling a quote from Hitler in German by heart. Did the officer teach Dad?
        2. A German woman, most likely the wife of another officer, recognized Hitler's quote in a completely innocent phrase. For example, I can quote half of Mein Kampf the author's figs and guess the title of the book. Are they there that everyone was crazy about Hitler? And all as one innocent victims of political repression ?!
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          25 November 2021 14: 43
          Strange, yesterday I just read about the nationality about which you can't talk. about their rally winked ... The GDR and their army were our most loyal ally. And there were no provocations against our fighters. unlike Poland. Hitler's book in the USSR was published in a small print run, in Russian. IV STALIN studied it carefully. Kalinin mastered something and wrote that it was a book for small shopkeepers.
        2. +2
          25 November 2021 18: 41
          When we entered his room, there was literally only a nail for clothes, a bedside table and a bed.
          well, straight citizen Koreiko! Only that one still had weights. "Ordinary gymnastics kettlebells" lol
          1. 0
            26 November 2021 08: 47
            well, straight citizen Koreiko! Only that one still had weights. "Regular kettlebells for gymnastics"

            Aren't you surprised by the immensely outstanding (even hard to find a word) popularity of the novel "The Golden Calf"? Koreiko is a collective character, there were quite a few of them and satire in this novel is not in the eyebrow, but in the eye. Therefore, I see no reason to be surprised. When I heard about this myself, the first thing that came to my mind was "Koreiko is a loser."
            1. +1
              26 November 2021 09: 50
              Aren't you surprised by the immensely outstanding (even hard to find a word) popularity of the novel "The Golden Calf"?
              I don't know how popular it is now. I first read it (after 12 chairs) in about 1987)
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          25 November 2021 19: 10
          Anti-Sovietism is the highest form of Russophobia.

          every time I read this banality, for some reason I think that the broadcaster necessarily has an icon on the panel. HZ, just associative. Previously, this mighty thought sounded primitive in the kitchen - "anti-Soviet - always, his mother, Russophobe!" Cool, I can just hear Zyuganov's shortness of breath.
          From the multi-letter lace I draw the conclusion: Jews and intellectuals are evil. Borsch, locksmiths, Lubyanka - good. Under Stalin, everyone was sitting fairly, since there are no innocent people a priori. Is that correct?
          1. 0
            26 November 2021 03: 14
            Quote: Ashes of Klaas
            Borsch, locksmiths, Lubyanka - good.

            Balalaika and vodka Our Soviet Union!
            What is only being taught at Langley! laughing
            1. +1
              26 November 2021 07: 41
              In any article of the Samsonovs' artel, there is necessarily a Stalinist Easter egg, and sensitive patriots immediately swallow the bait and begin to mumble their mantras. To link Bernhard's operation with Stalin is the aerobatics of associativity, yes.
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                26 November 2021 08: 20
                Quote: Ashes of Klaas
                To link Bernhard's operation with Stalin is the aerobatics of associativity, yes.
                Not to see the connection of the operation with the massive stuffing of fakes in the temporarily occupied territory of the USSR and with the post-war monetary reform is also aerobatics. On a broken tricycle around a chamber pot at LANGLI-I-I kindergarten. laughing
          2. 0
            26 November 2021 08: 31
            Under Stalin, everyone was sitting fairly, since there are no innocent people a priori. Is that correct?
            - you are absolutely right! Perestroika cured me of a stupid belief in the innocence of innocent victims of political repression. In Perestroika and after it, such an openly fascist non-human entered the light of God that there is simply nowhere to go further. In 1937, similar ones were put up against the wall and they did the right thing. Suggest at least one non-firing method for re-educating Bandera's virtuous brothers. And what are the better Baltic fascists and fascists of Central Asia? And all of them are united by hatred of the USSR and the Russians - anti-Sovietism. Russian nationalists are the same Russophobic fascists. Because for Russian nationalists, Russians are only those who are members of fascist organizations. Give at least one example of how Russian nationalists stood up for Russians in the Baltic countries, in Ukraine and further down the list of Russophobic countries. But Russian nationalists are terribly worried about the Jews who were shot in 1937. If someone howls and screams about the innocent victims of 1937, then he has not yet sold Russia with giblets only because there is too much competition in this field and such an opportunity has not yet been presented to him. Whether Russia is monarchist, socialist or sexually mafia-capitalist like the Russian Federation, we have been and will have an Empire of Good that is extremely hostile to us.
            All anti-Soviet propaganda under the banner of protecting human rights is based on lies and comes from the Empire of Good. Its goal is the elimination of Russia as a geographical concept. Take the famous organization Memorial as an example. It is impossible to imagine a more deceitful and more Russophobic organization:
            - if you hate blacks, then you are a racist;
            - if you hate Jews, then you are an anti-Semite;
            - if you hate Russians, then you are a principled and honest liberal journalist.
            The only goal of the human rights movement is to justify the punishers who kill the Russians. I will quote the famous Jewess - Valeria Novodvorskaya:
            I personally ate my fill of human rights. Once, we, the CIA and the United States used this idea as a battering ram to destroy the communist regime and the collapse of the USSR. This idea has served its purpose, and stop lying about human rights and human rights defenders. Otherwise, how not to cut down the branch on which we are all sitting. I always knew that decent people should have rights, and indecent people (like Kryuchkov, Khomeini or Kim Il Sung) should not. Law is an elitist concept. So you are either trembling, or you have the right. One out of two.

            Valeria was clearly modest about “how not to cut down the branch”. Her followers are no longer trying to cut down the boughs, but the whole of Russia. At the same time, any lies, any meanness are only welcome.
            Now about the innocent victims. The fact that Khrushchev is a Trotskyist is a well-known fact. He creatively continued the struggle of Trotsky with Stalin, and, in fact, with the USSR. Khrushchev transferred anti-Sovietism to the level of state propaganda. After Khrushchev's report at the XX Congress (February 1956), it was decided to hold a demonstrative release and rehabilitation of political prisoners. Immediately after the congress, special visiting commissions of the Supreme Soviet of the USSR were created. They worked directly in places of detention and received the right to make decisions on release or reduction of the sentence. A total of 97 such commissions were formed. From February to July 1, 1956, the commissions considered over 97 thousand cases. Let the commissions begin to work immediately after the closing of the congress on February 25. Even then, the commissions had only 127 days for everything. If they worked seven days a week, then they had 8 criminal cases per day without the possibility of carrying out any investigative measures for rechecking. As a result of the work of the commissions, more than 46 thousand people were released with a cleared conviction. With such an emergency work, convince me that at least one of these 46 thousand was innocent.
            I will illustrate the meanness of the work of these commissions with one example. In 1952, the former senior lieutenant of the Red Army Vasyura, who surrendered in 1941, received 25 years for cooperation with the German camp administration. After the XX Congress of the CPSU, he was rehabilitated and received a certificate from an innocent repressed. On holidays he spoke to the pioneers, even was called an honorary cadet of the Kiev Higher Military Engineering Twice Red Banner School of Communications named after M. I. Kalinin - the one that he graduated from before the war. In 1985, on the 40th anniversary of Victory, Vasyura finally became insolent and demanded for himself, as a war veteran, the Order of the Great Patriotic War. Only then did it become clear that the innocent victim of political repression was in fact the former chief of staff of the 118th Schutzmanschaft battalion, a punisher who personally directed the massacre of the residents of Khatyn. During the trial, it was established that he personally killed more than 360 civilians - women, old people, children.
            By the bodies of the Prosecutor's Office of the Russian Federation from 1992 to 2004. 978891 applications were considered, of which 797532 were resolved and 388412 were satisfied, 636335 cases were checked in relation to 901127 people and 634165 people were rehabilitated, more than 326 thousand people were recognized as victims of political repression. Total 960 thousand. innocent victims rehabilitated at 220 per day without holidays and days off. Given the fierce Russophobia and anti-Sovietism of the rehabilitation commission, I do not believe a single word of it. The innocent victims of political repression identified by her are simply nowhere to be branded. It is impossible to double-check the work of these commissions. Because the cases of innocent victims were either destroyed or remain classified as "Secret".
            In total, according to the estimates of the General Prosecutor's Office of the Russian Federation and the Commission for Rehabilitation, in the USSR and the RSFSR "about 32 million people became victims of political repression, including 13 million during the Civil War," as stated by the Chairman of the Commission on Rehabilitation of Victims of Political Repression under the President RF CIA agent (this is officially recognized even by liberal historians) Alexander Yakovlev. In theory, the number of those rehabilitated should coincide with the number of innocent repressed. Where have the rest of the millions of victims of innocent repression gone? Why not rehabilitated? It remains to state that the process of rehabilitation of innocent victims of political repression is an exclusively propagandistic, completely discredited company that has nothing to do with jurisprudence.
        4. 0
          26 November 2021 08: 49
          Quote: Old electrician
          Although, of course, the sacrifice was not the last (how many more were there!) And it was made at the expense of people.
          - wow, how scary! My aunt, a Muscovite, told me. In the hungry post-war 40s, when everything was on ration cards in Moscow, two families lived in a communal apartment. One decent intelligent family - a husband and wife, of a specific nationality, about which one cannot speak badly. The other is a Russian locksmith from the "box" with his wife and a bunch of snotty children. In an intelligent family, the room was like a museum - everything was in antiques, and the wife always went out into the common kitchen in a chic silk robe. At the locksmith's house, they wore the same clothes they used to go to work and lived from hand to mouth.
          Naturally, the toad began to choke the locksmith - especially the silk robe did not give him rest.
          He decided to hang some antique bullshit from a neighbor, sell it and spend the money on his family. For a locksmith to open the lock is a simple matter, climbed in, took some crap, and before leaving he looked under the mattress of his neighbor. Wads of money lay under the mattress in even rows in several layers - everything that had been acquired by back-breaking labor during the war years. Judging by the volume of the money supply, there were about 2-3 million rubles. at the cost of the T-34 tank in 1945 142 thousand rubles. and with a very good salary for a worker of 800 rubles. The locksmith put the antique crap back in place and took a few wads of money from under the mattress. For the stolen loot, the locksmith bought the children an update, and his wife bought the same silk dressing gown as the neighbor's and a new saucepan. Little of! He was so morose from a freebie that he cooked borscht with meat in a new saucepan! However, even this shamelessness seemed to him not enough !! Therefore, he also bought sour cream for borscht !!!
          A neighbor, a naive soul, seeing sour cream and a new pot of borscht in the kitchen, did not think to count the money under the mattress. Instead, he, like any decent and intelligent person, was outraged by social injustice: all of Moscow on ration cards, and here, you know, borscht with meat and a silk robe !!! Being a respected and law-abiding citizen, the neighbor wrote a statement where necessary that the locksmith working in the "box" does not live within his means - he probably sells state secrets! - Spiyon!
          On the same day, the locksmith was swept to the Lubyanka, where this scoundrel immediately split! The funniest thing in this story was that the police were greeted with a search by an intelligent neighbor in a silk robe and even showed - over there, this thug locksmith lives! Imagine her disappointment, because then sheer xenophobia began. The Russian locksmith was released and even the pot of borscht was not confiscated! And the poor intelligent family disappeared without a trace along with the antiques. This is how the elite and the flower of the Russian liberal intelligentsia perished in the millstones of the Stalinist GULAGs.
          Another example, in another communal apartment where an inconspicuous employee lived - a rolling pitch, a podzabornaya poverty. When the currency reform was announced, he had a heart attack and amen! When we entered his room, there was literally only a nail for clothes, a bedside table and a bed. Looking at this poverty, the neighbors threw themselves off and buried the poor fellow with their own money. Nobody looked at his junk and they decided to burn him along with the bugs. In the fire, the mattress burst, but there are the same wads of money as in the first case. In general, in 1947, there was an epidemic of heart attacks throughout the country. Worse than Covid. That is why Stalin is so hated by this very nationality at the genetic level.
          Anti-Sovietism is the highest form of Russophobia. Moreover, such Russophobia, which interrupts the feelings of self-preservation and the feeling of preserving their species and their nationality. In the late 90s, I had a chance to travel by train. One of the fellow travelers was a candidate of some sciences, who simply shone with her well-being. Dad is a professor. She inherited from him a three-room Stalinka in the center of Novosibirsk, a stone's throw from the apartment, a major garage in a garage cooperative. It goes without saying that dad had a luxurious summer cottage for those times not far from Akademgorodok, and, in addition, a garage for a boat with a boat at a cooperative boat station on the Ob reservoir. Everything, including my father's professorship, of the Stalin era. Nevertheless, she hated Stalin with fierce hatred. I ask - why? It turns out that she has a bunch of relatives who were starving in besieged Leningrad only because the tyrant Stalin refused to surrender the city. Honestly, I was embarrassed to tell her that her relatives with their nationality would be very lucky if, in the event of the surrender of Leningrad, they would get alive to the best health camps in Europe - Buchenwald, Auschwitz, Maidanek, etc.
          But at the word of Gorby, she shone like Ilyich's lamp. I ask again:
          - Why?
          - Well, of course !!! He is so cute !!! Such mi-mi-mi !!! He broke the Berlin Wall !!!
          - And how did this wall interfere with you personally?
          - Uh-uh ... Me-e-e ... N-oo-oo-oo ... The Germans are so happy, so happy !!! ...
          And again I was ashamed to ask her - what is the Holocaust, and why after it she loves the Germans so much and hates the USSR?
          How they became innocent victims of political repression. In 2013, the company of teachers started talking about a new law on education. Take it, and blurt out that under Stalin the professors lived much better. This was heard by the old grandfather, who after that was perhaps not made out by the karachun. He started yelling, spitting, promised to hit me with a crutch, etc. It turns out that he is an innocent victim of political repression, which, by the way, did not prevent him from defending his Ph.D. thesis and becoming an assistant professor while still in the USSR. I deeply doubt that he once had to beggar.
          According to him, in 1938, as a schoolboy, this grandfather demonstrated his erudition with a quote from Hitler in German at a lesson in German for fun. For the sake of truthfulness, he barked this quote, but so quickly that I only realized that Hitler had turned down something about the old and new school. Immediately after the lesson, the German woman “knocked” where necessary, from there they called the political department, and two hours after school, Dad's officer whipped him like a sidor's goat. His dad never got to the war, because a few months later he was arrested and for 18 years innocently felling the forest. Rehabilitated after the XX Congress of the CPSU.
          I did not argue with the nutty, but thought to myself:
          1. A Soviet schoolchild in the era of the complete absence of the Internet is scribbling a quote from Hitler in German by heart. Did the officer teach Dad?
          2. A German woman, most likely the wife of another officer, recognized Hitler's quote in a completely innocent phrase. For example, I can quote half of Mein Kampf the author's figs and guess the title of the book. Are they there that everyone was crazy about Hitler? And all as one innocent victims of political repression ?!

          and the hunt for this dull nude OBS ... to type with my own hands, to waste time ...fool lol
      3. +1
        25 November 2021 18: 36
        Although, of course, the sacrifice was not the last (how many more were there!) And it was made at the expense of people.
        from chewing "damned commies!" All eHspIments were staged! But now, well, I just observe the goodness of the air. Prices are growing with enviable consistency, the pension reform has been dreamed of all my life, anti-national laws are stamped out by a "mad printer" faster than cats breed, you can't buy housing without a mortgage (we probably live with a soviet house ourselves? wink . )
        By the way, how is the gas in Moldova? Haven't disconnected yet? wink
        1. -2
          26 November 2021 09: 02
          Quote: Region-25.rus
          from chewing "damned commies!" All eHspIments were staged! Z

          just like that, their result is the dying out Russian people, Russia, with 170 thousand settlements destroyed by your bandits (60% of all, tens of thousands of closed schools, hospitals, recreation centers by 1989, overgrown with forest million hectares of agricultural land), a half-empty country with a huge territory ...
          Quote: Region-25.rus
          Prices rise with enviable consistency

          under the Bolsheviks
          Quote: Region-25.rus
          pension reform has been dreamed of all my life

          under the bandits, the peasants did not have state pensions at all for 50 years, and when they gave a milomtynya in ... 12 rubles a penny, the age of men was from 65 years.

          Where are the capitalists ...
          Quote: Region-25.rus
          anti-national laws are stamped out by a "mad printer" faster than cats breed, without a mortgage and housing you can't buy (we ourselves probably live with a soviet house?

          try to work, so the whole developed world lived and lives and lived much better than comm. "Raya".
          used to GIVES - humbly beg and receive mercy.
          from the regime (the same dog kennels ("apartments") in the middle of nowhere after a hundred years of work), instead of EARNING what you want and where you want and when you want.
          Shame ...
          1. -2
            26 November 2021 09: 58
            just like that, their result is the dying out Russian people, Russia, with 170 thousand settlements destroyed by your bandits (60% of all, tens of thousands of closed schools, hospitals, recreation centers by 1989, overgrown with forest million hectares of agricultural land), a half-empty country with a huge territory ...
            and not as a result of the collapse of the 90s and the reforms carried out to this day by YOURS?
            try to work
            I have been working for 30 years
            used to GIVING - humiliatingly beg for mercy and receive
            yah! Was it not the USSR that they asked for handouts from all sorts of Egypt, Libya, and so on? wassat
            from the regime (the same dog kennels ("apartments") near the devil in the middle of nowhere after a hundred years of work
            in 1974 (half a year after my birth) my parents received an apartment from the factory. In 1978 they moved to a two-room apartment, in 1984 (a sister was born) to a three-room apartment. An area of ​​almost a hundred squares. Father (deceased) is a ship mechanic of the technical fleet, mother is an employee. Well, if people like you, losers could not do anything under the USSR (and it was necessary to try), then nothing remains but to water the smart USSR wink Pay - is that okay?))))
            1. -1
              26 November 2021 10: 25
              Quote: Region-25.rus
              and not as a result of the collapse of the 90s and the reforms carried out to this day by YOURS?

              Didn't get it on the first try again?

              Once again for in: in 20 years from 1959 to 1979, your criminals were destroyedand 170 THOUSAND LOCALITIES OF RUSSIA (more than 60% of all), more than HALF from schools (about 50 thousand, destroyed by 1989, in 10% of the remaining there is no ... / land, destroyed infrastructure, MILLION empty d / houses - what Mamai walked across Russia? Yours!

              Where For centuries lived, raised children, created people-after your left-pconfusion, ruin and devastation - and it is in INDIGENOUS Russia
              Quote: Region-25al.rus
              I have been working for 30 years

              little boy. Yes
              Quote: Region-25.rus
              yah! Not the USSR

              YOU in the USSR ASKED and humiliatedly waited for years for a SUPPLY in the form of NOT your apartment-kennel where the left leg of the owls wants. master and a miserable increase in salary.
              Quote: Region-25.rus
              in 1974 (half a year after my birth) my parents received an apartment from the factory. In 1978 they moved to a two-room apartment, in 1984 (a sister was born) to a three-room apartment. An area of ​​almost a hundred squares. Father (deceased) is a ship mechanic of the technical fleet, mother is an employee. Well, if people like you are losers, they couldn't do anything
              poverty: his own, except for m / headset Anka, nothing.

              Someone whose hands do not grow from there today, someone who grows a head lol , earn and to YOUR apartment, and to YOUR car, etc., etc.-WITHOUT gracious gifts from counterfeiters
          2. -2
            26 November 2021 13: 28
            try to work, so the whole developed world lived and lives and lived much better than comm. "Raya". used to GIVES - humbly beg and receive mercy. from the regime (the same dog kennels ("apartments") in the middle of nowhere after a hundred years of work), instead of EARNING what you want and where you want and when you want. Shame ...
            - and you are not by any chance one of those majors who crush the human herd on expensive foreign cars? A joke about people like you:
            - What do you need to trade in order to buy apartments for 220 million?
            - Homeland, sonny, homeland
            Their result is the dying out Russian people, Russia, with 170 thousand settlements destroyed by your bandits (60% of all, tens of thousands of closed schools, hospitals, recreation centers by 1989, overgrown with forest million hectares of agricultural land. A half-empty country with a huge territory.
            - Could you tell me from which training manual of the Washington regional committee this nonsense? It is a pity especially for the DKs destroyed by you.
            [Center]
            Looking at this graph, what are you saying about the bandits?
            According to the results of the population census, Russians lived in the USSR:
            1926 - 77 791 124
            1939 - 99 591 520
            1959 - 114 113 579
            1970 - 129 015 140
            1979 - 137 397 089
            1989 - 145 155 489.
            Question - the population was constantly growing,
            According to the 2002 census of the Russian Federation, the number of residents of Russia (including Russians), compared with 1989, decreased by 1,8 million people and amounted to 145166731 people.
            According to the results of the next census in 2010, the population of Russia was 142905200 people. Those. over 8 years, another 2,3 million people left in the Russian Federation. Interesting? What will the 2021 census show?
            Since the 90s, the population of the Russian Federation has been put on the brink of survival. According to official data, the population of the Russian Federation with incomes below the subsistence level in the third quarter of 2020 increased by 1,2 million people compared to the third quarter of 2019 and amounted to 18,8 million people. In turn, what is called the cost of living is not even begging. This is vegetation. In conditions when the family does not have any prospects for the future, but there is free access to cheap contraceptives and abortions, the population of Russia began to die out, and tendencies to improve the demographic situation are not observed even in the long term.
            According to official data, 90 million of the population in the Russian Federation has departed in the 20s. A disastrous decline in the population of the Russian Federation (unlike, for example, from Ukraine) has not yet been observed solely due to migration. However, if in the 90s the migrants were mainly Russians, expelled from the former national outskirts of the USSR, now they are immigrants from Central Asian countries. Is Moskabad your dream?
            In the last 20 years alone, 20 thousand villages have disappeared in Russia - three each day. To this must be added 10 million emigration over 30 years. Taken together, this exceeds the losses of the population of the RSFSR during the Great Patriotic War and the Civil War, collectivization and the "Great Terror" taken together. For comparison, with the "white outcome" in the Civil War, only 2 million parasites left the country. This is called genocide, so that white people can crush the rabble with impunity with their cool foreign cars.
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              26 November 2021 16: 08
              Quote: Old electrician
              - and you are not by any chance one of those majors who crush the human herd on expensive foreign cars? A joke about people like you:

              ask yourself .... answer? fool lol
              Quote: Old electrician
              Could you tell me from which training manual of the Washington regional committee this delirium?

              this is the bitter TRUTH - for those crippled by false propaganda - see. USSR CENSUS, Great Russian Encyclopedia. Volume 22. - M., 2013, monographs by L. Denisova "The Vanishing Village of Russia", Beznina and pr
              Quote: Old electrician
              Looking at this graph, what are you saying about the bandits?

              for the ignorant: to 1989 g (the peak of YOUR "achievements") since 1959 more than FIFTY% of the year has been closed. schools in Russia - more FORTY THOUSAND SCHOOLS
              Quote: Old electrician
              According to the results of the population census, Russians lived in the USSR:
              1926 - 77 791 124
              1939 - 99 591 520
              1959 - 114 113 579
              1970 - 129 015 140
              1979 - 137 397 089
              1989 - 145 155 489.
              Question - the population was constantly growing,

              for the ignorant: with 1964 g net reproduction rate BELOW 1-That's what it is extinction , while hidden, and in 1987 already THREE RUSSIAN regions died out, in 1990 THIRD of the population of Russia 21 regions DIE OUT.

              Your stupidly stupidly gobbled up the unique demographic potential of Russia;
              not a single generation of Russians born after 1910 and entering an active reproductive age, starting from the era of the “great turning point,” the late 1920s - early 1930s, has reproduced itself. While there were few such generations in the population and the total birth rate in the country was determined by the older cohorts, it remained relatively high. (demoscope)

              Only Tbilis do not read Soviet demographers (Perevedentsev, Vishnevsky, etc.) and deny the well-known extinction since 1964
              Quote: Old electrician
              According to the 2002 census of the Russian Federation, the number of residents of Russia (including Russians), compared with 1989, decreased by 1,8 million people

              it doesn't reach that yours left behind a DECIDING, drunken with alcohol, destroyed by abortion (your government could not provide condoms) an old people with a SMALL number of young people -whom give birth to children?! From the graveyards of Russian villages, from the graves of exiles, to raise the executions of the pits?

              All 70 years have been a continuous demographic catastrophe - more than 10 million victims of hunger and cannibalism, MILLIONS of children exiled, millions of exiled, millions of exiled, hundreds of thousands of shot tens of millions of victims of GW, terrible hard work is all that killed demography.
              Quote: Old electrician
              now they are immigrants from Central Asian countries. Is Moskabad your dream?

              under YOUR Russians have ceased to give birth, but "dying out" from the nat suburbs with your care have grown at times, and now these your Muscovites populate the Russian cities devastated by you from the Russians.

              Quote: Old electrician
              Civil War

              25 million victims (including hidden ones) - the result of YOUR GV.

              In total, after your reign-catastrophe, Russia missed at least 70 million people - and there are estimates and hundreds of millions of losses of Russian people
              1. -1
                27 November 2021 05: 58
                this is the bitter TRUTH - for those crippled by false propaganda - see. USSR CENSUS, Great Russian Encyclopedia. Volume 22. - M., 2013, monographs by L. Denisova "The Vanishing Village of Russia", Beznina and pr
                - gee-gygy! You have indeed presented a brilliant example of deceitful Russophobic state propaganda. Don't tell me Denisova, you'd better go straight to the source — Mein Kampf. Denisova spars according to the guidelines of the Washington Regional Committee in order to justify the sexual-mafia capitalism in the Russian Federation. Official propaganda always lies. Only such victims of the exam as you can believe her. fool
                Another hilarious copy of Mein Kampf:
                All 70 years have been a continuous demographic catastrophe - more than 10 million victims of hunger and cannibalism, MILLIONS of children exiled, millions of exiled, millions of exiled, hundreds of thousands of shot tens of millions of victims of GW, terrible hard work is all that killed demography.
                - gee-gygy! As I understand it, you are a regular at ukrosites? Only there you can glean such chilling details. It's amazing how, with such views, you are not yet in the ATO zone. fool
                Sweet victim of the exam! Look around! Perestroika is over long ago! For crying "Long live Perestroika" in a decent society, your face may not yet be stuffed, but the orderlies will definitely be summoned. The times when the Korotichi, Solzhenitsyn, and Novodvorsk Jews gathered around them a jubilant crowd are a thing of the past. The ravings of Alexander Itskhakovich Solzhenitsyn no longer cause anything except the gag reflex, your ravings too. fool
                Next month, your brothers will be in power for 30 years. Let's compare the results.
                By the thirtieth anniversary of Soviet power, the USSR had become the second economy in the world to break its neck to the fascist Crusade of a united Europe. Even the United States did not dare to speak against the USSR, which could only crap quietly and bring up a fifth column in the USSR. People like you.
                What have you and your brothers achieved in thirty years? On the foreign arena, there is no country in the world that would not wipe its feet on Russia. On any far-fetched pretext, sanctions follow, which were out of the question in the era of the USSR. There is not a single neighboring country that does not present territorial claims to Russia. Any citizen of the Russian Federation who enjoys breathing the air of Western Freedom can be arrested in any country on a far-fetched pretext and extradited to the United States, where he is automatically sentenced. All that our diplomacy can do is just lament - be patient, dear, it may cost! If you want details, ask Western Freedom singer Butina.
                Our economy is dominated by sex-mafia capitalism. That says it all. Suffice it to say that almost every month half a hundred people are poisoned with methyl swill with the complete connivance of your brothers in power. Entire industries have been destroyed. A balagan called "import substitution" is nothing more than a cover for pocketing dough by your brothers. Miners die in mines for the unfortunate 50 thousand wooden ones (a funny amount in dollars is $ 666). The most interesting thing is that they die for a penny for the super-profit of the owners of these mines in Cyprus. 20 million "dear Russians" live on less than the subsistence level. Because of unemployment, many are actually hired into slavery in order not to die of hunger. Etc., etc. One French princess said:
                If they don't have bread, let them eat cakes!
                - and then gloomy guys with red bows came to her ... Don't you think it looks like your future?
                No, though! I'm wrong! There is an area in which there is unconditional progress - this is Freedom. No, not like "[b] FREEDOM !!! [b]".
                Of the Criminal Code of the RSFSR of 1926, article 154-a.
                Sexual intercourse between a man and a man (sodomy) is imprisonment for a term of three to five years.
                Sodomy committed with the use of violence or using the dependent position of the victim - imprisonment for a term of five to eight years.
                - These are the visual horrors of totalitarianism!
                Recently, a gay festival was held at the Yeltsin Center with great fanfare. You, apparently, are delighted, because the Yeltsin Center is a symbol of FREEDOM for you, your liar Denisova and your brothers!
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                  27 November 2021 09: 06
                  Quote: Old electrician
                  - gee-gygy! You have indeed presented a brilliant example of deceitful Russophobic state propaganda. Don't tell me Denisova, you'd better go straight to the source — Mein Kampf.

                  Denisova (and ALL the others) fuck official Statistical compilations the USSR, CENSUS USSR and other state publications of the USSR,.

                  In addition to nonsense about mine kapfa, there is something conscientious FACTS and NUMBERS argue, ignoramus?
                  Quote: Old electrician
                  Official propaganda always lies. Only victims of the exam like you can believe her

                  Yes, in terms of the degree of LIE, no one could surpass the Soviet propaganda: MILLIONS died of hunger with mass cannibalism, corpse-eating, your false power of lies simply ... did not notice, "did not know" and called them in the terrible cannibalism of 1933 ... "wealthy people". fool
                  Quote: Old electrician
                  Sweet victim of the exam! Look around! Perestroika is over long ago! For crying "Long live Perestroika" in a decent society, your face may not yet be stuffed, but the orderlies will definitely be summoned. The times when the Korotichi, Solzhenitsyn, and Novodvorsk Jews gathered around them a jubilant crowd are a thing of the past. The ravings of Alexander Itskhakovich Solzhenitsyn no longer cause anything except the gag reflex, your ravings too.

                  the victim and, vomiting, it is from your shameless ignorant LIE, when against the FIGURES you only pour that incoherent muddy ignorant nonsense -agit.
                  Quote: Old electrician
                  By the XNUMXth anniversary of Soviet power, the USSR became the second economy in the world

                  the second - on the consumption of FOOD? CLOTHING? HOUSING? No? And what does a person need - for LIFE - your stupid ... ideas?

                  You are in deep e (pit) lol even in comparison with Russia 1913 d according to these indicators, at the same time they had tens of millions died of hunger and cannibalism: that is why millions of "oppressed" workers from England and France "fled" to you to your "achievements", right? lol
                  Quote: Old electrician
                  What have you and your brothers achieved in thirty years?

                  no shame, no conscience of kostokhrustov: you left WHAT after yourself, destroyers of the country? Forgot? Dying out OLD YOUNG CHILDREN, infantile, weaned off from the initiative people0, DISRUPTED central Russia, where you KILLED almost TWO THOUSAND localities, the old non-competitive cost-efficient "economy, the lowest labor productivity.

                  WHOM to work and give birth, if you left the crippled people and the economy with coupons for women's panties?

                  Bring back the people of 1917, full of strength, which you captured and maimed, and you would see HOW Russia would flourish!
                  Quote: Old electrician
                  Miners are dying in the mines z

                  and in front of yours they died for nothing, only you LIES shamefully silent
                  Quote: Old electrician
                  Because of unemployment, many so as not to die of hunger. Etc., etc.

                  In Russia and Europe-SEA of work, housing construction m2 per person has grown by 70% and has long outstripped the RSFSR, cars-SEA, food-sea, the consumption of e / energy of clothes, shoes, and so-called. "economics" with coupon female panties once a quarter: go whoever wants to, and earn and not whine, begging for the Soviets. sir, handouts in the form of a kennel near the devil on the streets, which he may deign to give in tens of years to the queue
                  Quote: Old electrician
                  Don't you think this looks like your future?

                  this is for you it seems and for such painful conditions there are appropriate methods of recovery.
                  Quote: Old electrician
                  FREEDOM for you, your liar Denisova and your brothers

                  you refute at least something, from the facts of the HORROR that are given even by the SOVIET, knowingly false statistics in CENSUSES, statistic collections, etc.

                  What, besides WHATS-nothing?

                  That's the same thing.

                  Shame ....
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                    27 November 2021 14: 14
                    Return that fast-growing people of 1917, full of strength, which you captured and maimed and you would see HOW Russia would flourish!
                    - gee-gee-gee! How unlucky you are with the people, who in 1917 absolutely did not give a damn about the Wishlist of your Bulkokhrusts and other ghouls.
                    WHOM to work and give birth, if you left the crippled people and the economy with coupons for women's panties?
                    - gee-gee-gee! fool
                    In 1991, the ghouls overthrown in 1917 returned. After that, your gang of Russophobes, reptiles before the West, had THIRTY YEARS to build a new Russia. What have you given to Russia during these 30 years, apart from gay parades, what have you built?
                    Since the 80s, socialist China has become the second largest economy in the world. During the same time, your gang of Russophobic ghouls killed TWENTY MILLION of the population of the Russian Federation. These are the official statistics. Your gang of ghouls killed these people with unemployment, the population being drunk with alcohol Royal, drug addiction, a wild decline in morals leading to general female and male infertility, banditism, etc. etc. In the USSR, there was no hint of such a thing. In addition to the twenty million killed, your ghouls have forced TEN MILLION people to emigrate. In total, this is THIRTY MILLION population. And now those Russophobic pro-Western creatures who organized all this are blaming their sins on the overthrown government? Not even funny! fool
                    you refute at least something, from the facts of the HORROR that are given even by the SOVIET, knowingly false statistics in CENSUSES, statistic collections, etc.
                    - and you brought at least one fact? Anti-Sovietism is the highest form of Russophobia and it is all based on lies. The standard technique of Russophobes, like your L. Denisova, is to take numbers from the ceiling and refer to official statistics, to official data. For example, let's take your screeching about the destruction of schools in the USSR. Indeed, the number of schools decreased by 1991, but the liar Denisova is modestly silent about the fact that not a single student was abandoned in the USSR, everyone was not only at schools, but also at the palaces of pioneers, all kinds of circles, etc., etc. .d. Until 1991, all schoolchildren were in business, and there is nothing like the then palaces of pioneers and circles in our days and will not be. But nowadays, drug addiction has become as much as you like, with the complete connivance of the thieves' authorities. Sexual-mafia capitalism began with the fact that criminal responsibility for taking drugs was abolished and all the brakes on the path of the spread of drug addiction were removed. Yes, in the USSR there was an enlargement of schools, in which their number decreased, but there was no shortage of schools.
                    Demographic problems also existed in the USSR. First of all, it was the problem with the decline in the birth rate during the war years. This decline in turn gave rise to a periodic decline in the birth rate in the aftermath. Another such recession occurred in the 80s. But there was no extinction. The recession of the 80s was to be followed by a recovery in the 90s. However, thanks to your gangster cannibalistic ghouls, a new recession followed in the 90s, due to the extinction of the population under the cries of the GULAG. The extinction of the population was superimposed on sex-mafia capitalism, in which completely different priorities prevail than in the 80s. To illustrate their implications (the cited article is dated June 28, 2019):
                    Russia faces a shortage of places in schools, warns the Accounts Chamber (JV). Now 16 million children and adolescents study in Russian schools, but in the coming years the number of students should increase sharply, the press service of the department reports, citing the auditor of the Accounts Chamber, Svetlana Orlova.
                    “By 2024, the number of schoolchildren will reach almost 20 million and the general education system must meet this challenge,” Orlova said, speaking at the State Duma.
                    The auditor noted that in previous years the number of schools and kindergartens in Russia has significantly decreased. “The result of this optimization has been the reduction since 2001 of the number of kindergartens from 51 to 48 thousand, rural schools - from 46 to 24 thousand, urban - from 23 to 18 thousand units,” she explained.

                    Another schizoid delusion of yours:
                    In total, after your reign-catastrophe, Russia missed at least 70 million people - and there are estimates and hundreds of millions of losses of Russian people
                    - you call this nonsense facts? Well, you at least agree to start with the pro-American colleagues Russophobes how to lie. So, for example, according to the "historian" Roy Medvedev, 40 million people were innocently shot in the USSR, according to the writer Bunich, 100 million people (it was he who counted them sitting in the USA), and the words of the late Nemtsov (from his TV speech in 2003) in The USSR innocently shot as many as 150 million people. All these and other figures of the innocent victims of political repression are sucked out of the thumb and do not even have a hint of documentary evidence.
                    The number of innocent repressed should coincide with the number of those rehabilitated. Otherwise, this number of innocent repressed have nowhere to come from. Official numbers:
                    By the bodies of the Prosecutor's Office of the Russian Federation from 1992 to 2004. 978891 applications were considered, of which 797532 were resolved and 388412 were satisfied, 636335 cases were checked in relation to 901127 people and 634165 people were rehabilitated ...

                    As you can see, a total of 901127 criminal cases were found under Article 58 of which 634165 people were rehabilitated. NO MORE REHABILITATED! From what ceiling were the millions of those shot taken? By the way, I don’t believe in the fairy tale that these 634165 people are innocent - this is not the case when you can believe in officialdom.
                    Due to the lack of documentary evidence, since Perestroika, any fakes have been used. I will not list them. In this respect, your Denisova is not original. Therefore, temper your Russophobic screeching.
                    PS. History teaches that it teaches nothing. Therefore, the Bulkokhrusta in 1917 thought that the fate of Marie Antoinette would not affect them. In 1956, Khrushchev liquidated Bolshevism as an ideological trend, and he will never return. However, this absolutely does not guarantee you that one fine day tough guys will come to you and to your deep surprise they will not be Bolsheviks. The Russian revolt is called senseless and merciless. If you're lucky, you won't live to see it. am
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                      27 November 2021 17: 23
                      Quote: Old electrician
                      - gee-gee-gee! How unlucky you are with the people, who in 1917 absolutely did not give a damn about the Wishlist of your Bulkokhrusts and other ghouls.

                      with YOUR people is great. iotam was not lucky - he did not appreciate your "efforts" and completely spat on yours when they rotted, decomposed and disappeared
                      Quote: Old electrician
                      - gee-gee-gee!
                      In 1991, the ghouls overthrown in 1917 returned. After that, your gang of Russophobes, reptiles before the West, had THIRTY YEARS to build a new Russia. What have you given to Russia during these 30 years, apart from gay parades, what have you built?

                      in 1991 yours stupid again committed another crime of the collapse of the country, as in 1917.

                      Rottenness, stupid and ignorant (EBNy, marked, kravchuk and pr shevarnadzy are exclusively YOUR work. And your rotten government for the leadership of the country could not educate anyone except Rotten.

                      You have KILLED (hundreds of settlements, million hectares of agricultural land) and CORRUPTED Russia and its people (made it drunk and dying out) and after you there is simply NOBODY to work or give birth, you simply brought out the youth
                      Quote: Old electrician
                      Since the 80s, socialist China has become the second largest economy in the world. During the same time, your gang of Russophobic ghouls killed TWENTY MILLION of the population of the Russian Federation. These are the official statistics. Your gang of ghouls killed these people with unemployment, drinking the population with alcohol Royal, drug addiction, a wild decline in morals, leading to general female and male infertility, banditism, etc. etc. In the USSR, there was no hint of such a thing.

                      great. the killers of the Russian people have forgotten how from 1940 to 1980, with a population growth of a paltry 35%, they increased alcohol production by SEVEN HUNDRED% (DMN Angles), filling the people with alcohol above their nostrils, giving them this drunken "happiness" instead of apartments, food and clothes, with the production of which they have completely cheated.

                      YOU brought the country to FIRST by this spawning places in the world for ALCOHOLICS, tebils, divorces, suicides, murders and prisoners.

                      Cheu YOU taught the people (alcoholism, infantelism), and so he flooded and after 1991.

                      And it was YOU who killed the people with unprecedented hunger strikes in the world (nowhere in the world there were such, wild inhuman labor, unimaginable stupidity in management, executions (no country in the world had such), millions of exiles and camps.

                      And these are REAL corpses, not a demoggraph. failures that appeared as a result of your stupid policies before 1991.
                      Quote: Old electrician
                      In addition to the twenty million killed

                      Millions of real corpses are YOUR merit from 1917 onwards
                      Quote: Old electrician
                      and you brought at least one fact?

                      belay fool lol

                      Yours are the KILLERS of 177 thousand settlements of Russia (60%), the transformation of the center of Russia into a DESERT and CELLINA (and this is where people have lived for centuries), the killers of tens of thousands of schools, recreation centers, hospitals, roads, etc., etc.
                      Quote: Old electrician
                      The standard technique of Russophobes, like your L. Denisova, is to take numbers from the ceiling and refer to official statistics, to official data.

                      so develop these "false" numbers, liar, even ONE.

                      What is not lol can lol ?
                      Quote: Old electrician
                      ... For example, let's take your screeching about the destruction of schools in the USSR. Indeed, the number of schools had decreased by 1991, but the liar Denisova modestly keeps silent about the fact that not a single student was abandoned in the USSR,

                      fool
                      Destruction OVER 50% sec. For 20 years, you modestly call Russian schools ... a decrease? Yes, this is a crime and murder in the country's mashab.

                      Not thrown, you say? And the fact that MILLIONS of children were forced by parents to give, instead of at home, to EMERGENCY boarding schools at schools (in 10% there is no ... light in 1990), tk. schools nearby ... there weren't, everything was destroyed, what is that ?!
                      Quote: Old electrician
                      but there was no shortage of schools.

                      fool lol Lavrov, yes.
                      Quote: Old electrician
                      Demographic problems also existed in the USSR. First of all, it was the problem with the decline in the birth rate during the war years. This decline in turn gave rise to a periodic decline in the birth rate in the aftermath. Another such recession occurred in the 80s. But there was no extinction

                      ignorant-read Soviet demographers-catastrophe-since 1930, extinction since 1964, Russian cross-1992.

                      Perevedentsev, 1970: "The center of Russia must be urgently settled!"
                      Quote: Old electrician
                      you call this nonsense facts?

                      the facts are the murder by your goats of settlements, population, deography, they are shown in the figures above, and 70 million is a minimum. an estimate including those killed by yours and because of yours and the UNBORNED because of your
                      Quote: Old electrician
                      As you can see, in total, criminal cases were found on

                      you see a fig: MILLIONS were exiled and died without any courts at all, ignorant peasants, peoples, etc. - the conscientious island of cannibals Nazino will help you, only for the YEAR 08.1937-08.1938 yours were only shot 680 thousand people - ANYWHERE in the world is not such a big deal
                      Quote: Old electrician
                      Therefore, temper your Russophobic squeals.


                      moderate yours greatly. Russophobic screech-today, thank God, are not your times total comm. LIES and they pulled all your shameful crimes by the ear into the sun.
                      Quote: Old electrician
                      PS. History teaches that it teaches nothing. Therefore, the Bulkokhrusta in 1917 thought that the fate of Marie Antoinette would not affect them. In 1956, Khrushchev liquidated Bolshevism as an ideological trend, and he will never return. However, this absolutely does not guarantee you that one fine day tough guys will come to you and to your deep surprise they will not be Bolsheviks. The Russian revolt is called senseless and merciless. If you're lucky, you won't live to see it.

                      stupid predictions of miserable big bankrupts (lovers of the crunching of bones of queens and rokossovs), who previously squeezed the country, army, people, have never been fulfilled and only cause laughter at the wretched losers lol
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                        28 November 2021 06: 44

                        XNUMXth century painting "Skinning a Corrupt Judge".
                        Outstanding Thief Power Achievement:
                        ... Not a single Russian portfolio company created by Rusnano has been acquired by large, well-known foreign investors. An attempt to bring them to the IPO of the world's leading stock exchanges ended in failure. Nontransparent schemes of unjustifiably high payments to top management were revealed. The contract for the management of the Rosnanomedinvest fund with the company RMI Partners brought the management of the Rusnano Group of Companies a remuneration of 2 billion rubles, as well as options in portfolio companies. Anatoly Chubais himself, chairman of the board, received about 2020 million rubles by the end of 150. Quite so ...
                        In total, according to law enforcement agencies, about 120 billion rubles were withdrawn in this manner (mainly to the Netherlands, Cyprus and Singapore). Therefore, we can say with complete confidence: under the guise of the right to make a mistake, Chubais's group simply impudently pumped our money abroad and into private pockets. For Chubais has not presented a single truly breakthrough and successful project creating some kind of fundamentally new technology (comparable to the invention of, if not a radio, then at least an iPhone) in 14 years.
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                        28 November 2021 09: 26
                        Quote: Old electrician
                        Outstanding Thief Power Achievement:

                        outstanding achievements of the LIEUCE of Russophobic liars: the borders of Russia of the 17th century, the dying out Russian people-Russian cross, a complete fiasco with the allies (they threw out hundreds of millions of dollars, forgave our murders, but got ... mortal enemies) and so on: complete bankrupts , losers, ignorant inept, losers and loshars.
                        о
                        PS so the FACTS will be refuted killing yours Russophobia hundreds of thousands of villages in Russia, schools, recreation centers and a doctor. uchr, s / farms, etc.? Not lol can lolunmighty?

                        And find out, yeah, what's in 1990 g in the SEMISTA so-called. owls. with the "hospitals" of Russia out of 4,5 thousand examined were not ... even cold water, in 2,5 thousand there was no hot water, out of 18 thousand s. "polyclinics" - 14,5 thousand were in .... the so-called. adapted premises, former churches, cowsheds, sheds, warehouses and other crap.

                        Such is the "caring" "nogodny" government. am
  2. +1
    25 November 2021 06: 03
    The talent of Alexander Samsonov is versatile ... what got to the counterfeit money now.
    Of course, to bring down the country's finances with the help of fake utopia ... the governments themselves do it much more successfully, launching the inflation process to the fullest ... this is where the robberies of peoples and their financial savings on such a scale that Chubais never dreamed of.
    1. -3
      25 November 2021 06: 46
      The comment was deleted, but I will repeat a similar article, it was in the "Opinions" section a month ago, and I will even call the time 18:00. In that article, the same facts were set forth, only slightly expanded, in more detail about Operation Bernhard.
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  4. 0
    25 November 2021 06: 46
    The comment was deleted, but I will repeat a similar article, it was in the "Opinions" section a month ago, and I will even call the time 18:00. In that article, the same facts were set forth, only slightly expanded, in more detail about Operation Bernhard.
    1. +7
      25 November 2021 08: 57
      “And there is no need to yell like that! I heard everything perfectly the first time. " © You can read there (https://topwar.ru/188510-falshivye-dengi-tajnoe-oruzhie-tretego-rejha.html).
      Everyone chooses for themselves.
      I choose too - as I can.
      I have no complaints against anyone.
      Everyone chooses for themselves.
      I am choosing for myself the book by Piri Anthony “Counterfeiters. Economic sabotage of Nazi Germany. " Everything is there in detail about Operation Bernhard.
      1. +5
        25 November 2021 09: 18
        Quote: Crowe
        I am choosing for myself the book by Piri Anthony “Counterfeiters. Economic sabotage of Nazi Germany. " Everything is there in detail about Operation Bernhard.

        A good choice.
      2. +7
        25 November 2021 10: 59
        I prefer the book "Operation Bernhard" by a direct participant in the events of the SS-Sturmbannführer Wilhelm Höttl, published under the pseudonym Walter Hagen. Höttl is generally a very interesting and muddy figure, even his photographs from the times of the war are almost impossible to find.

        There was also a confusing post-war story with Lake Toplitz in the Alps, also associated with his name. He served in the SD, headed the department for Central and Southeastern Europe, after the war he served only two years, opened a private school just near this very Lake Toplitz.
        1. +9
          25 November 2021 12: 02
          Yes, everyone rushed to write memoirs there, from Schellenberg to the last guard dog of Sachsenhausen, so after the war everyone was interested in this story. mostly "gold of the Third Reich" "gold of the Nibelungen" and other treasures, but if we turn to the topic of the article, yes, we found something
          Several boxes with those same fake pounds.
          1. +8
            25 November 2021 12: 13
            Yes, the history of this lake is still waiting for its author on our VO, a lot of everything was heaped up there both during the war and after it.

            We would have tackled the topic, you have a very solid archive. smile
            1. +8
              25 November 2021 12: 30
              No, the natural laziness innate in the hands of a weight hangs and does not allow to take the pen. Again, it is one thing to comment on which you can make a mistake (like yesterday with the ship, when he sent the wrong photo), and just joke (as in the topic about sharotanks), and another thing is an article for a respected and, moreover, an international resource "Voennoye Obozreniye" .. Here it will be necessary to work with all seriousness, responsibility and perseverance on the material, which I have little (this is me about seriousness) or not at all (I'm talking about perseverance). Again, “my spelling is lame. It is good, but for some reason it is lame. ”©
              1. +8
                25 November 2021 12: 42
                ... the innate laziness on the hands hangs like a weight ...


                Hmmm ... I have the same thing. What can you do, what is, we live with that. smile drinks
            2. 0
              26 November 2021 07: 42
              Quote: Sea Cat
              you have a very solid archive

              Internet, you mean?
              1. +3
                26 November 2021 07: 51
                No, just a personal archive. There was life even before the advent of the Internet.
      3. +2
        25 November 2021 17: 59
        hi Eat, the same wink Under different authors .. winkWe are demanded to respect the authors, but the same is not required from the authors. People gossip, people-goof, not a mammoth, will not die out. wink
  5. 0
    25 November 2021 08: 14
    During the Seven Years War (1756–1763), the Prussian king Frederick II was noted for the large-scale production of counterfeit money from hostile states.

    Frederick is perhaps the only one who managed to fully use the strategic potential of this weapon and achieve the goal - the collapse of the enemy's financial system. Those. - to withstand the war and ruin the neighbors.
  6. +5
    25 November 2021 09: 48
    After the war, the Bank of England did not seek and seize forgeries, and they went along with real money.

    Well, how can I say ... During the operation Cicero, an employee of the British Embassy in Istanbul, the Turks Ilyas Bazna dragged secret papers to the German attaché, for which the Germans paid the spy with "pancakes" from Sachsenhausen (this is in the memoirs of Ludwig Moisisch), neither much nor little - a fortune - 300K pounds !!! The whole joke is that when after the war Bazna tried to put them into business, the Bank of England dumbfounded him, saying that his entire fortune was fake. The Turk did not think of anything better how to demand compensation from the FRG government. Was, of course, politely sent. He earned his living by singing lessons, wrote a book, but did not gain fame.
    1. +8
      25 November 2021 10: 35
      I read about him in Schellenberg's memoirs, the topic got interested and then I dug up a lot more about this case. An Albanian from Pristina, but not the point. “One word is Romanian. He's a Bulgarian. Yes ?! What's the difference!?" © About him, the article was here in 13 year (https://topwar.ru/36365-agent-pod-psevdonimom-ciceron.html) And it's better about all this first-hand, so to speak: Adolf Burger, one of those prisoners , after the war, he wrote a memoir, which he called "The Devil's Workshop", which formed the basis of the script for the film "The Counterfeiters", which won an Oscar in 2007. It's an interesting story!
      1. +3
        25 November 2021 10: 50
        Quote: Crowe
        Generally an interesting story!

        Exceptionally. It is sad to see how the Samsonovs' artel will steal interesting stories with their boring writings.
    2. +5
      25 November 2021 13: 49
      If I'm not mistaken, he was a double agent, the British paid him with German marks, and the same with fake wassat
    3. +4
      25 November 2021 14: 54
      He started building a luxury hotel, and then he was forced to abandon. Later he wrote a book: "I was" Cicero "'
  7. 0
    25 November 2021 12: 49
    Judging by the number of comments, few people are interested in the story. Indeed, it has been around the Internet for many years with some additions.
  8. +3
    25 November 2021 14: 40
    In fact, I was still in school and in some old Soviet newspaper that I read that the monetary reform of 1947 was mainly carried out in order to confiscate counterfeit money.