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A source in the Ministry of Defense named the time required for the Russian Black Sea Fleet to completely neutralize the Ukrainian Navy

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The Black Sea the fleet It will not take Russia too long to completely destroy the Ukrainian Naval Forces and neutralize the entire coastal infrastructure. For this, the fleet has all the necessary forces and means.


According to a source in the General Staff of the Ministry of Defense, the Black Sea Fleet of Russia will enter into hostilities in the event of an attack by Ukraine on Crimea or other territories of Russia. At the same time, the option with "attack by the first" is not considered in Russia. According to him, in the event of the outbreak of hostilities, it will take from 50 minutes to 10 hours to completely destroy the ships and boats of the Ukrainian Navy, as well as the coastal infrastructure.

For the conduct of hostilities at sea and on land, the fleet has all the necessary units. On the territory of the Crimean Peninsula and in the region of Novorossiysk, sea, aviation, artillery, missile and tank units, as well as the Airborne Forces and the Marines.

The source called the option of a nuclear power, in particular the United States or NATO members, entering the war on the side of Ukraine "minimal." At the same time, he recalled the 2008 war with Georgia, when NATO instructors and advisers were on its territory, but none of the alliance countries dared to intervene in the conflict.

Note that in Kiev, calls continue to sound to Western countries to side with Ukraine in a possible conflict with Russia. Some Ukrainian politicians continue to assert that in the event of hostilities, NATO will "breastfeed" to defend Ukraine, although the US and the EU had previously said directly that NATO units in Kiev should not be counted on to participate in hostilities.
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  1. Ros 56
    Ros 56 17 November 2021 18: 51
    +57
    If I understood correctly, in 10 hours the entire southern coast until Moldova itself will announce its separation from the dillies.
    1. Cheshire
      Cheshire 17 November 2021 18: 58
      +17
      Rather, he will receive a signal about the possibility of a referendum on withdrawal from Ukraine)
      1. Ros 56
        Ros 56 17 November 2021 19: 03
        +20
        First they will secede, and then they will formalize it by a referendum, otherwise you never know. hi
        1. Cheshire
          Cheshire 17 November 2021 19: 11
          +21
          Yes, I’m for any option, just to get off the ground. hi
          1. Nikolai Redko
            Nikolai Redko 17 November 2021 20: 48
            +35
            Everything will be decided before 24. Moreover, definitely !!! There is no mystery. In 24g elections in Russia and in the United States. Accordingly, all uncertainties must be resolved by the DO. And they will be resolved. Now Pi .... am, like air, we need a war in Europe! And the fuse should WORK Ukraine (with a small letter deliberately! Big these utyrki are unworthy!) This is the intention! But Putin and Russia stubbornly "do not come" to the war. So let's wait. Two years is not a period - they waited longer. And the Russian people of Donbass feel sorry for them to tears! What can I say ... Work brothers !!! Our business is right! Victory will be ours!
            1. Vladimir Mashkov
              Vladimir Mashkov 17 November 2021 21: 51
              +3
              As soon as possible. Not for long. They won't even have time to bark! laughing laughing laughing
              1. 28st region
                28st region 18 November 2021 07: 10
                +6
                What is there to destroy. They themselves brought everything to the state of scrap metal. There was a case when the ship could not moor because of the emergency berth. Ship composition, I beg you these are boats and kayaks with rafts. So it is a pity for them to missiles, to fire up a couple of cobblestones and sink.
                There was an article recently, Ukraine is preparing for war, is transferring a ship's composition to the Sea of ​​Azov. And no one thought about how they were throwing him. Nothing passed under the bridge. They were thrown by car trailers. What kind of fleet is this?
            2. Shurik70
              Shurik70 17 November 2021 22: 05
              +3
              And why is the Ministry of Defense making such statements?
              It is obvious that a country that has a real navy, all the infrastructure and echeloned defense on the coast will very quickly sink the toy fleet of a country that does not have all this. Especially in a limited theater.
              But this can only be voiced with the aim of making someone nervous.
              It seems that intelligence has learned that Kiev wants to continue "experiments" with attack drones. I see no other reason to put pressure on them.
              1. 1976AG
                1976AG 18 November 2021 00: 03
                -1
                Quote: Shurik70
                And why is the Ministry of Defense making such statements?
                It is obvious that a country that has a real navy, all the infrastructure and echeloned defense on the coast will very quickly sink the toy fleet of a country that does not have all this. Especially in a limited theater.
                But this can only be voiced with the aim of making someone nervous.
                It seems that intelligence has learned that Kiev wants to continue "experiments" with attack drones. I see no other reason to put pressure on them.

                This source is a retired naval officer. What relation it has to the MO is not entirely clear.
            3. skipper83
              skipper83 18 November 2021 02: 51
              +1
              Meehan? Is it you?
        2. Kayala
          Kayala 17 November 2021 19: 15
          +32
          And I didn’t understand another thing, but what will the Black Sea Fleet be doing for another 9 hours after the first 50 minutes? Searching the bays for inflatable boats that have not been destroyed? laughing
          1. Ros 56
            Ros 56 17 November 2021 19: 19
            +9
            Duc coast is all the same long, imagine how dill, striped, shallow and other riffraffs will start running like cockroaches, try to pick them all out of the cracks. fellow wassat lol
            1. Kayala
              Kayala 17 November 2021 19: 57
              +6
              I suspect that small-shaven and minke whales will be blown away from there even before the nix starts, as soon as the smell is not fried. Although they are de Bily according to Zadornov, but not enough to get mixed up. So if something happens it will be like a Georgian and, if not worse.
              1. Nyrobsky
                Nyrobsky 17 November 2021 20: 41
                +12
                Quote: Kayala
                I suspect that the shallow and will blow off the minke whales from there even before the start of the nix, as soon as the smell is not fried.
                They demonstrated this ability at the beginning of Haftar's offensive against Tripoli, when the unshakably shaken Marines embarked in unison on the departing ship and departed into the distance, wishing the defending sarazhiv, success and good mood.
          2. novel66
            novel66 17 November 2021 19: 39
            +1
            Yes, celebrate!
          3. 1976AG
            1976AG 18 November 2021 00: 05
            +3
            Quote: Kayala
            And I didn’t understand another thing, but what will the Black Sea Fleet be doing for another 9 hours after the first 50 minutes? Searching the bays for inflatable boats that have not been destroyed? laughing

            If you manage it in these 50 minutes, then replenish the ammunition.
          4. Marconi41
            Marconi41 18 November 2021 09: 07
            +1
            Quote: Kayala
            And I didn’t understand another thing, but what will the Black Sea Fleet be doing for another 9 hours after the first 50 minutes? Searching the bays for inflatable boats that have not been destroyed? laughing

            Ships are not all of the Ukrainian Navy. Warehouses with BP, air defense, air units, naval bases, and of the marines.
    2. Cron
      Cron 17 November 2021 19: 13
      +1
      Quote: Ros 56
      If I understood correctly, in 10 hours the entire southern coast until Moldova itself will announce its separation from the dillies.

      Or maybe it will take this time to find all the inflatable boats
      1. K-50
        K-50 17 November 2021 19: 49
        +5
        Quote: Cron
        Or maybe it will take this time to find all the inflatable boats

        What would they give inflatable so? belay belay
        They call in, they will say it will work on the farm. yes yes laughing
        1. Hitriy Zhuk
          Hitriy Zhuk 17 November 2021 22: 01
          +1
          Here, the army farms will have to search, look for the fleet.
          From that and the timing.
    3. Thrifty
      Thrifty 17 November 2021 19: 18
      +5
      From 45 minutes to 9 hours we will spend in search of the Vukrievsky fleet, the remaining 30 minutes to melt every ukrolohan ... lol
    4. isv000
      isv000 17 November 2021 19: 24
      +7
      Quote: Ros 56
      If I understood correctly, in 10 hours the entire southern coast until Moldova itself will announce its separation from the dillies.

      Everything is correct: 50 minutes for volleys and 10 hours for the militia to clean up everything "to Moldova itself" - it's time they take care of their land - like the militia of Crimea and Donbass! ..
    5. paul3390
      paul3390 17 November 2021 20: 08
      +20
      Maybe so - but what's next ?? Can you imagine what it will cost us to own, after all this Ruin, at least part of Tsegabonia? Does the Russian Federation have such a sum and resources? And then - what to do with Banderlog in this territory? Not - Comrade Stalin, of course, would have found what to do, but our current authorities? Are they capable of a total cleanup? And without it - they will constantly shit quietly. No options ..
      1. Uran53
        Uran53 17 November 2021 20: 28
        0
        And most experts do not think about this.
      2. bulvas
        bulvas 17 November 2021 20: 29
        +7
        They will be equated with terrorists and will begin to harass them like cockroaches.
        There is experience, there will be enough local helpers
        They will also announce the prize, they will start handing over each other themselves.
        1. paul3390
          paul3390 17 November 2021 21: 15
          +7
          Alas, as the post-war experience shows, it was Banderlog who were the first to help and break up .. Moreover, they were very successful. So what, what - and they know how to mimic the next owner perfectly. And then - they will inevitably betray in difficult times. How many times has this happened?
          1. maksbazhin
            maksbazhin 17 November 2021 21: 25
            +1
            Well, now all the same polygraphs can be used, it will be a little easier, but of course we will have problems :(
        2. maxim1987
          maxim1987 17 November 2021 21: 44
          +1
          contract soldiers of the Armed Forces of Ukraine - 5 years in labor camps; government officials - 3 years; teaching staff in humanitarian areas - 2 years of exile to the regions of the Far North; "couch" warriors from the Internet - 200 hours of correctional labor laughing BAM, Sakhalin Penzhinskaya Bay comrades in need of your labor exploits !!!
      3. vitvit123
        vitvit123 17 November 2021 21: 11
        +4
        Well, why can't we consider the option of taking a part of this territory .. and the population of a part of this territory won't work? So if it’s okay to steer the agricultural sector there, and then it will probably bring profit .. grain in price and most likely will increase even more .. etc ... how to get rid of enemies ..? But these services should work .. half will scatter themselves right away, with the rest of "Vesti24" will figure it out .. the security forces will show ingenuity ... part of it is our land and our people ... if it were not for the sanctions (well, imagine), then probably the Crimea especially and would not have felt .. there is a lot of money in the country, especially with such prices for the resources. We keep Abkhazia, South Ossetia, Belarus also sits on the neck, etc. nothing ... let alone Odessa, Nikolaev, Kharkov, etc. heart bleeds ...
        If something I am from the peasants, you can say an ordinary hard worker, from the poor stratum of the population ..
        1. TerraSandera
          TerraSandera 19 November 2021 09: 30
          -1
          After all, we have only 600+ lards of greenery in the reserve fund. Yes, that is not enough, it is growing slowly. This is according to "their" Data. And one day, "they" will zero it out, and there will be a donut. Therefore, there is money, but you are holding on. For "this is different." Not that money, and not for those)
          1. vitvit123
            vitvit123 19 November 2021 09: 39
            -1
            I don’t comment on such nonsense ... this is kindergarten crap ...
            1. TerraSandera
              TerraSandera 19 November 2021 18: 22
              -1
              in kindergarten they comment, and here they comment, yeah.
              1. vitvit123
                vitvit123 19 November 2021 19: 05
                -3
                Even if you have comments, it does not detract from the cheap populism, which is already regrettable ....
                And so, maybe you don't understand, the person who made a mistake is not always more stupid than you ... I am sure that you also made mistakes in Russian ... then the question is: why should I point to them, Since you are not better in this matter ? .. especially since the person who writes on the Internet is not at school, in the Russian language lesson ... and, besides, very often the technique changes words (although probably not in this case), so it is stupid to leave the topic of conversation for Errors since nothing more to say. For me, this is another indicator ...
                And I am even impressed by my mistake, because the word is simple, often used, therefore, I am surprised. But to my justification, I can say that, of course, I did not write carefully, dealing with people in a completely different matter .. but I hope this mistake made you feel better, not even happy ...
      4. Xnumx vis
        Xnumx vis 17 November 2021 21: 26
        +1
        Quote: paul3390
        ? And then - what to do with Banderlog in this territory? Not - Comrade Stalin, of course, would have found what to do, but our current authorities? Are they capable of a total cleanup? And without it - they will constantly shit quietly. No options.

        And the construction of cities with a million-plus population in Siberia? A joke, of course ... I hope there is a plan for the modernization of Ukraine .. They are rolling in the Crimea and Donbass .. With a creak and bang, but slowly moving ..
        1. paul3390
          paul3390 17 November 2021 21: 33
          -3
          And - how much did Crimea cost us? Are you sure that we have enough money for the whole of Ukraine? Something seems to me weak in our knees for such a feat, especially when you consider the scale of the cataclysm after panuvaniya svidomitov .. They also have to provide an appropriate standard of living, they will not agree to less. At whose expense will this banquet be held again? We ourselves, for the most part, keep our teeth on the shelf, the people are practically beggars, and then there are at least three tens of millions of beggars on their heads .. But on the other hand - about devouring great craftsmen ..
          1. Xnumx vis
            Xnumx vis 17 November 2021 21: 39
            +3
            Quote: paul3390
            We ourselves, for the most part, keep our teeth on the shelf, the people are practically beggars, and then there are at least three tens of millions of beggars on their heads .. But on the other hand - about devouring great craftsmen ..

            So it seems like everything is correct ... But in normal Ukraine, hardworking people .. This is Svido the top is corrupted to the limit and flows to the decay of the people to a bestial state .. Bribes are everywhere From a teacher-doctor and a petty clerk to high officials. This is the main problem .. People in Ukraine are used to living like this, the circumstances of survival. You grease it and do whatever your heart desires .. Hosh trade in organs, stop at the core .. Decomposition of society is the main problem ... it is difficult to reverse it. He still hiccups in Sevastopol ..
            1. paul3390
              paul3390 17 November 2021 22: 31
              0
              The scientific and industrial cluster is happiness that is given only once in a lifetime. And its own - Ukraine has already poured into the toilet. More - no one will ever rebuild it in those parts. Meaning?? Isn't it better to invest this money in your own country than in a territory that has repeatedly demonstrated its complete unreliability? Well, we will rebuild Nenka again - and she will immediately wag her seat again, laughing at the stupid Muscovites .. Why do we need it? No, she died so died. This is already forever.
              1. abrakadabre
                abrakadabre 18 November 2021 19: 18
                0
                Well, we will rebuild Nenka - and she will immediately wag her seat again, laughing at the stupid Muscovites
                In order to be unable to wag her seat, it is necessary to do so that there is nothing to wiggle: administrative reform is a division into ordinary areas without any of these national parliaments in any of their manifestations. And other attributes of independence.
          2. bulvas
            bulvas 18 November 2021 11: 07
            +1
            Quote: paul3390
            And - how much did Crimea cost us? We are sure that we have enough money for the whole of Ukraine? .. At whose expense will this banquet be again? ...

            - what other banquet?
            they do not need to restore and build anything. Enough, passed.
            In the Russian Federation there are not enough people to work, so let them connect if they don't want to die of hunger.

            And Ukraine - let the "invisible hand of the market" take care of the development of this territory, while there are military airfields and training grounds.

            And yes, for the future - no autonomy. An indivisible part of the Russian Federation.
        2. TerraSandera
          TerraSandera 19 November 2021 09: 32
          0
          They are rolling in the Crimea, Donbass is to blame for that? There everything is according to the principle, so long as they do not die. What an upgrade.
      5. boris epstein
        boris epstein 18 November 2021 18: 17
        0
        There is still a difference with the forties. In Russia there is a complete analogue of the Bandera Peacekeeper with all the data for each.
    6. Sailor
      Sailor 17 November 2021 20: 40
      -6
      You need to take away the entire "Outskirts" !!!
      1. moscowp
        moscowp 17 November 2021 21: 30
        -2
        Western Ukraine can be given to Poland and Hungary, let them have fun. And the Galitans will at once get to Europe as they dreamed
      2. Alex_1973
        Alex_1973 17 November 2021 21: 36
        +9
        MoryakChF (Sergey)
        You need to take away the entire "Outskirts" !!!
        Of course it can and so, that's just the question WHY? Do you personally agree to feed the Westerners and not only them, but also those who are already saturated with Russophobia to the tips of their nails (and there are now the majority of such people in Ukraine) ?! What good will Russia get from this hemorrhoid? Imagine how much it will cost us? Moreover, these are not only financial losses, and GLOBAL, one might say of a PLANETARY SCALE, this is a breakthrough that will draw all the juice out of us and at the same time hate us fiercely! And we really need it ???
        Even having squeezed out the whole of Novorossiya, we will have more problems than we will get a profit. I am not talking only about finances, I am talking about a purely human factor. Russophobia, localism and hatascism are too deeply rooted there. I don’t know how much you came across them, but I live 50 km away. from the border and know all too well what they are. Even the population of Donbass is not very homogeneous, which was the brake why they were not annexed like Crimea, and what can we say for those who are a little to the west?
        So here I would not make such loud statements!
        1. Vadim Zhivov
          Vadim Zhivov 17 November 2021 22: 07
          +1
          Oh, and how I agree with you ... I am from the Samara region, and this is far from 50 km from the border, and nevertheless, you described everything very accurately and correctly ... After 30 years, nothing can fix them. .o.kh.o.l is a diagnosis ... plus you +++ hi
          1. Alex_1973
            Alex_1973 17 November 2021 22: 27
            +2
            Vadim Zhivov (Vadim)
            Kh.h.o.l is a diagnosis ...
            That's it!!! Here's to tell who will not believe, but we all went through it on our own skin in 2014. A couple of examples.
            2014, summer, the war in Donbass is already in full swing.

            Case 1. A grandmother from the village of Koksovy (Belokalitvinsky district, Rostov region) decided to shelter a family of "refugees" (I put it in quotes on purpose, because normal people fight for their land, and do not flee at the first naughty). The grandmother has a private house and a summer house (not heated summer room). She gives up the house to "refugees" (a family of 5 people, 2 adults, 2 adult children 14-11 years old and a 5-year-old child), and she herself goes to the Letnitsa. As a result, they didn’t hit a finger in order to help grandma with the housework, although they regularly took everything that grew there from her garden. At the same time, they received an allowance and were not even going to work anywhere, although work on the ground was a dime a dozen. Moreover, they fucked up the whole house for my grandmother, took away everything that was possible from the garden, and even grabbed my grandmother's little things when they left.

            Case 2. The pioneer camp (or whatever it is called now) was prepared to receive "refugees". Prepared decently, the cottages were equipped with refrigerators and televisions, refrigerators were packed to capacity with food, and things were brought in. Things and products were collected by the whole city, I know for sure, he himself participated in the collection.
            As a result, those who arrived first walked through the still empty numbers and stupidly stole all food and belongings from those who had not yet arrived at this camp. On logical requests to return everything, the camp authorities sent swear words. When asked to help equip them with additional latrines (summer toilets with an ordinary dug hole), they answered something like that, they say, go dig it yourself, they say we are badly injured and we are not supposed to work.

            And such stories I can cite the darkness ... Although I must say that not all of them, there were quite normal people in need, but there were still an order of magnitude more frank two-legged creatures and this is EAST !!! Ukraine, and then what to say about the West ?!
            1. Vadim Zhivov
              Vadim Zhivov 18 November 2021 00: 01
              +2
              Your words would go into the ears of those who say that we are one people ... hi + + +
      3. RaDeVl
        RaDeVl 18 November 2021 06: 03
        +1
        Why did she surrender all to our state. Half or even more of the population grinds its teeth towards Russia, carries all sorts of nasty things. Rather, the east is interesting, and even then only in terms of ensuring its further security.
  2. Volkof
    Volkof 17 November 2021 18: 52
    -46
    According to a source in the General Staff of the Ministry of Defense,

    For the conduct of hostilities at sea and on land, the fleet has all the necessary units.

    A source in the Ministry of Defense admitted the complete absence of the aviation capabilities of the Russian Black Sea Fleet to destroy the enemy ... This is the main component of modern warfare completely absent ... It is a shame for such opportunities ...
    All Russian fleets are armed with only 26 Su-30SMs and several dozen outdated Su-24Ms awaiting decommissioning. Funny to tears!
    Read on and enjoy the buzz of our leaders!
    https://dfnc.ru/aviazcia/aviatsiya-vmf-rossii/
    1. Ros 56
      Ros 56 17 November 2021 19: 02
      +11
      If you're talking about an aircraft carrier, then it's a shame, but it's a shame, but where to place it in the Black Sea. fool
      1. isv000
        isv000 17 November 2021 19: 31
        +24
        Quote: Ros 56
        If you're talking about an aircraft carrier, then it's a shame, but it's a shame, but where to place it in the Black Sea.

        He is already there, and his name is "Crimea"! From its decks, any region of the Black Sea is covered with a specially prepared copper basin! .. soldier
    2. Cron
      Cron 17 November 2021 19: 02
      -12
      Quote: Volkof
      A source in the Ministry of Defense admitted

      It sounds promising
    3. tovarich-andrey.62goncharov
      tovarich-andrey.62goncharov 17 November 2021 19: 06
      +21
      I rested in Sevastopol, next to Kacha. General's area, familiarity. Some things keep flying and humming ... Big boys in uniform then said - these planes and they are there ... Volkov - whose will you be? Oh, well, well ...
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      2. venik
        venik 17 November 2021 19: 32
        +14
        Quote: tovarich-andrey.62goncharov
        Volkov - whose will you be? Oh, well, well ...

        =======
        Duc - they are Troll! bully
      3. Stepan S
        Stepan S 17 November 2021 19: 48
        +2
        Volkov - whose will you be? Oh, well, well ...

        Maybe not Volkov, but Vovkov (wolf-vovk)
      4. Machnamh
        Machnamh 17 November 2021 20: 54
        -4
        Yes, nobody's. An ordinary analytically minded reader. Apparently in the subject. Expresses the objective state of affairs. But in this review, for some reason, such a position is not at all appreciated by the bulk of readers. And it causes an irresistible desire to minus. They don't need the truth, it has a negative effect on the hypothalamus. For them, patriotic paintings in the position of an ostrich are better.
        1. Serge-667
          Serge-667 18 November 2021 00: 12
          -4
          An ordinary analytically minded reader.

          It's not in trend right now. The main thing is to write with slogans and no more than three sentences.
      5. next322
        next322 18 November 2021 08: 04
        0
        next to the Sevastopol kachi - there is no General district laughingand no pieces of equipment fly, the be-12 plane is not a piece
    4. Glagol1
      Glagol1 17 November 2021 19: 24
      +11
      Volkof. Several dozen SU-24M. This is enough for suppression. Maybe he is old, but he flies and lets bombs / rockets. For a country, 404 is more than enough.
      1. Machnamh
        Machnamh 17 November 2021 21: 01
        -8
        Quote: Glagol1
        Volkof. Several dozen SU-24M. This is enough for suppression. Maybe he is old, but he flies and lets bombs / rockets. For a country, 404 is more than enough.

        And the other day, one gruff adversary was proving that two B-1s with their 24 + 24 = 48 missiles with 1000 pounds of explosives in each would be enough for the entire Black Sea Fleet ... According to him, after such a volley, the entire Black Sea Fleet will turn into a smoking zero ... And this salvo can, in his words, be easy to get through ... From the coast of Bulgaria, for example ... Is modesty going off the charts?
        1. Xnumx vis
          Xnumx vis 17 November 2021 21: 31
          +5
          Quote: Machnamh
          .. And this salvo can, according to him, be easy to get away with ... From the coast of Bulgaria, for example ... Is modesty going off the charts?

          You can grow up as you please! But just who will give .. to be
          1. Machnamh
            Machnamh 17 November 2021 21: 42
            -6
            That's the same! They can give you a good feeling. Sometimes they gave and more than once they gave ... We went there with a handful of battalions, if only ... It is easy to start a war, but to stop ...
            1. Xnumx vis
              Xnumx vis 17 November 2021 21: 46
              +4
              Quote: Machnamh
              ... It is easy to start a war, but to stop ... Heaven is immense

              It will not be a mortal battle between Russians and Russians .. Everything will be much easier .. And who of the patriotic svidozhovtno blakytnoy wants to go to heaven .. Good luck! Or allot a corridor to Canada! What will happen most likely.
              1. Machnamh
                Machnamh 17 November 2021 23: 46
                -10
                Nice man! Yes, we all can already see it ... it's good if heaven. You don't have to be a wang here either. Don't you understand, don't you feel that we are ALL already doomed? And in a very near future. And it's good if it is, as you put it, much simpler and easier.
                1. Xnumx vis
                  Xnumx vis 18 November 2021 08: 27
                  +4
                  Quote: Machnamh
                  Nice man! Yes, we all can already see it ... it's good if heaven. You don't have to be a wang here either. Don't you understand, don't you feel that we are ALL already doomed? And in a very near future.

                  We all will die ! Undoubtedly we will die .. But !!!! Each in its own time .. There are no eternal ones.
                2. Ros 56
                  Ros 56 18 November 2021 09: 26
                  +2
                  Don't worry, you were doomed from birth or your last name is McCloud ????? wassat
      2. maksbazhin
        maksbazhin 17 November 2021 22: 01
        -6
        They flew to Georgia on the same ball, with the same thoughts. am
    5. Dart2027
      Dart2027 17 November 2021 19: 25
      +7
      Quote: Volkof
      All Russian fleets are armed with only 26 Su-30SMs and several dozen outdated Su-24Ms awaiting decommissioning.

      Will the rest of the aviation take part?
    6. Flooding
      Flooding 17 November 2021 19: 28
      +5
      Quote: Volkof
      All Russian fleets are armed with only 26 Su-30SMs and several dozen outdated Su-24Ms awaiting decommissioning.

      you yourself read the text on your link?
      it says that in addition to the contract from 2012. on 28 Su-30SM in 2020. signed another contract for 21 Su-30SM2.
    7. KCA
      KCA 17 November 2021 22: 22
      +2
      MIG-31K do not belong to the Navy, this is the aviation of the Southern Military District, because of this, they are unable to hit enemy ships in the Caspian and the Black Sea? SU-24 and SU-30SM aviation of the Southern Military District are not capable of hitting naval targets?
  3. far diu
    far diu 17 November 2021 18: 53
    +7
    Well, given the fact that Ukraine has only 3 warships: a frigate of 93, a minesweeper and a landing ship, the Black Sea Fleet should not worry at all.
    1. Nexcom
      Nexcom 17 November 2021 19: 15
      0
      They will complain to the Yankes - they will ask for help to drive them. And they will send their vessels.
      1. far diu
        far diu 17 November 2021 19: 26
        -12
        The main thing is not to send Zamvolt, Ticonderoga, Arlie Burke. This will be really serious.
        1. Nexcom
          Nexcom 17 November 2021 19: 29
          0
          Do you think Yankes will not be limited to inflatable boats for Euroshumeria?
        2. kot423
          kot423 17 November 2021 19: 34
          +5
          Quote: far diu
          not Zamvolt,

          Will not drag, if only in tow. He cannot go further than 20 miles from the home port, then the bearings will fall off, then flow along the shaft ...
        3. Jager
          Jager 17 November 2021 19: 59
          +5
          Zamvolt? Seriously?))
        4. KCA
          KCA 17 November 2021 22: 24
          0
          Zamvolt is especially scary with his cannon armament, during the Second World War he alone could hold the entire Black Sea until several hundred small such incendiary bombs from one small propeller plane fell on his balsa deck
  4. Ryaruav
    Ryaruav 17 November 2021 19: 03
    +8
    one hit and 80% scatter to their homes on the go, ripping off the uniform, including that the glasses were beaten on the parade ground
    1. Nexcom
      Nexcom 17 November 2021 19: 32
      +5
      Yes, yes, and most of them will immediately lose their Ukrainian accent and will be spoiled in Russian this is the only way.
      1. Ryaruav
        Ryaruav 17 November 2021 21: 43
        -2
        they speak Russian
    2. isv000
      isv000 17 November 2021 19: 33
      +3
      Quote: Ryaruav
      one hit and 80% scatter to their homes on the go, ripping off the uniform, including that the glasses were beaten on the parade ground

      Those guys are advanced - pulled off in advance ... lol
  5. Botanikas
    Botanikas 17 November 2021 19: 03
    +6
    But I did not understand the meaning of this news.
    After all, the horse understands that if a political decision is made, everything will be done quickly and efficiently.
    1. kot423
      kot423 17 November 2021 19: 10
      +9
      Quote: Botanikas
      After all, the horse understands

      Well ... There is a post above Volkof (okko 077, vo3a), he does not understand. He believes that without aviation, Russia will blow dry wassat
  6. Sergey3
    Sergey3 17 November 2021 19: 07
    +5
    Fresh news: British carrier-based fighter F-35 crashed in the Mediterranean.
    1. Ros 56
      Ros 56 17 November 2021 19: 15
      +5
      Well, look, VVP again overlooked these gouges.
    2. Boa kaa
      Boa kaa 17 November 2021 19: 25
      +2
      Quote: Sergey3
      Fresh news: British carrier-based fighter F-35 crashed in the Mediterranean.

      Nothing pleases like a cow dead at a neighbor's! (popular sign) laughing
      1. Hiller
        Hiller 17 November 2021 20: 58
        +3
        In the army: "An emergency in a neighboring battalion is a holiday" drinks
    3. isv000
      isv000 17 November 2021 19: 36
      +6
      Quote: Sergey3
      Fresh news: British carrier-based fighter F-35 crashed in the Mediterranean.

      He did not fall - he is practicing hidden maneuvering ... wink
      1. Sergey3
        Sergey3 17 November 2021 20: 05
        +3
        You want to say that we have this aerospace force, and the British decided to create an air-submarine laughing
        1. isv000
          isv000 17 November 2021 20: 10
          +3
          Quote: Sergey3
          You want to say that we have this aerospace force, and the British decided to create an air-submarine

          yes Exactly. Moreover, robotic: take off together, then take off - the pilot on the seat like on the core, the plane - to the underwater airfield ... hi
          1. Sergey3
            Sergey3 17 November 2021 20: 13
            0
            It would also be necessary to highlight with a locator, what if he is not visible even under water?
      2. Leonidych
        Leonidych 17 November 2021 20: 33
        +2
        Covert underwater maneuvering. They're at sea. laughing
  7. Avior
    Avior 17 November 2021 19: 10
    -12
    ... The Black Sea Fleet of Russia will not take too long to completely destroy the Naval Forces of Ukraine

    Taking into account the fact that the navy in Ukraine is currently absent and is just beginning to be built, moreover, abroad, it is not clear what this is all about?
    1. Andrey Moskvin
      Andrey Moskvin 17 November 2021 19: 22
      +8
      Apparently, naval strength is measured by the number of admirals. laughing
    2. Xnumx vis
      Xnumx vis 17 November 2021 21: 33
      0
      Quote: Avior
      the navy in Ukraine is currently absent and is just beginning to be built, and abroad, it is not clear what this is all about?

      Do you propose to hammer on the VMsuk ships standing abroad?
  8. Prisoner
    Prisoner 17 November 2021 19: 20
    -7
    what I wonder from what distance the "source" from the RF Ministry of Defense saw the building of the Ministry of Defense?
    1. sedoj
      sedoj 17 November 2021 19: 26
      -5
      Quote: Captive
      I wonder from what distance the "source" from the RF Ministry of Defense saw the building of the Ministry of Defense?

      He washes the floors there. Not? recourse
      1. Prisoner
        Prisoner 17 November 2021 19: 30
        -7
        If floors, then this is a full-fledged source. Such superfluous chatter will not be. Otherwise, they will wind the dangling around the mop. hi
  9. Jacket in stock
    Jacket in stock 17 November 2021 19: 22
    -2
    10 hours !???
    There is no fleet drain there. Even together with the coastal infrastructure.
    And what about the Turks then? They are going to fight for a year.
  10. K-50
    K-50 17 November 2021 19: 47
    -2
    in the event of the outbreak of hostilities, it will take from 50 minutes to 10 hours to completely destroy the ships and boats of the Ukrainian Navy, as well as the coastal infrastructure.

    Something too much. what
    It seemed to me that the flight time of the missiles was enough for this, plus the time for transmitting target designation from satellites. But I’m never a specialist. I am forgiven for being wrong. repeat yes
    1. Botanologist
      Botanologist 17 November 2021 20: 54
      -4
      Quote: K-50
      Something a little too much

      Fine. 2 hours for the Security Council meeting, 1 hour for discussion, 1 hour for preparing a resolution, half an hour for publication in the media, half an hour for preparing an appeal to the people, half an hour for the statement itself. Another hour to train forces and equipment, at least an hour - flight time (not only because the missiles will fly). A couple of hours - damage assessment and additional exploration. Well, and half an hour - a conversation on the phone with those looking after Ukraine, to whom should power now be transferred and within what boundaries. If you made a mistake somewhere - correct it.
  11. cniza
    cniza 17 November 2021 19: 58
    +1
    Some Ukrainian politicians continue to argue that in the event of hostilities, NATO will "breastfeed" to defend Ukraine


    Let them find at least one example of when this happened ...
  12. Uran53
    Uran53 17 November 2021 20: 26
    0
    Little remains to be done - political will
  13. Semen62
    Semen62 17 November 2021 20: 58
    -5
    And that the promise to protect the people of Donbass, and the hint about "the end of statehood" during the attack on the LPRP, Solntselikiy has already forgotten. So what about maintaining the retirement age and indexing military pensions? Now we will only defend the Crimea, "formatting" the Kamyshyn DSh brigade to the regiment?
    1. Flooding
      Flooding 17 November 2021 21: 47
      0
      Quote: Semen62
      Now we will only defend the Crimea, "formatting" the Kamyshyn DSh brigade to the regiment?


      "The brigade was reorganized into a regiment, then back. Moreover, these were always three battalions, the number never exceeded three thousand, which corresponds to the structure of the regiment."

      more details: https://aif.ru/society/army/nikto_krome_v_krymu_razvernut_polk_vdv
  14. Panikovsky
    Panikovsky 17 November 2021 21: 02
    -1
    It is enough to declare that several power plants will be bombed on such and such a date at a certain time, after which they do not need to be bombed, the personnel will disappear, the enterprises will stop. With these ukrami everything is solved simply, there is no need to introduce troops there. It is enough for tramps and hooligans to demonstrate strength, and they will sit down in a hand position behind their head.
  15. Hitriy Zhuk
    Hitriy Zhuk 17 November 2021 22: 06
    -1
    Quote: Sailor
    You need to take away the entire "Outskirts" !!!

    To take it, yes, but to divide it by at least two, to absorb part of it ideally (like a republic / republic) will not work - to separate or rivet to Belarus.
    The rest is already cut off from the sea "for quarantine".

    It is better to cut immediately than to leave a decaying-smoldering conflict (I remember such kind of extinguished USSR that flared up quite well in the 90s).
  16. Hitriy Zhuk
    Hitriy Zhuk 17 November 2021 22: 08
    -1
    Quote: Uran53
    Little remains to be done - political will

    And this, like Stalin, died in our country - especially not, by inertia, they drove through and got up.
  17. Private SA
    Private SA 17 November 2021 23: 12
    -2
    Quote: Shurik70
    It seems that intelligence has learned that Kiev wants to continue "experiments" with attack drones. I see no other reason to put pressure on them.

    Yes, they are also actively shelling from 122-mm at Novorosiya. We must warn you.
    What for 10 hours "polite people" in the appropriate ammunition, where according to the plans it is necessary,
    will appear.
  18. Sands Careers General
    Sands Careers General 18 November 2021 00: 28
    -1
    in the event of the outbreak of hostilities, it will take from 50 minutes to 10 hours to completely destroy the ships and boats of the Ukrainian Navy, as well as the coastal infrastructure.


    And then slipper them, slipper! Like cockroaches laughing
  19. mojohed2012
    mojohed2012 18 November 2021 11: 48
    0
    I'm not sure that the Naval Forces of Ukraine will fight the Black Sea Fleet to death.
    Yes, there it is simply to bring the ships to launch missiles to the bays, where the Naval Forces of Ukraine are standing at the walls and start recording: Akhtung! Ukrainian goldaten! The Ukrainian state ceases to exist due to the mistrust of the people of Ukraine. The Russian government invites you to surrender! Bring your ships, boats to the ports of the Russian Black Sea Fleet, hand over your weapons, ammunition, military equipment at the nearest posts of the Russian troops. You will be guaranteed a human attitude in captivity and full amnesty after the completion of the peace enforcement operation!
  20. svoit
    svoit 18 November 2021 12: 04
    0
    Quote: mojohed2012
    I'm not sure that the Naval Forces of Ukraine will fight the Black Sea Fleet to death.

    However, the detained sailors often demanded an interpreter from Ukrainian, this is not a very good signal.
    1. Sands Careers General
      Sands Careers General 18 November 2021 14: 28
      -1
      What is there to translate, oh, you change the word to i, that's all Ukrainian))
      Kit will not let you lie wink
  21. babylon
    babylon 18 November 2021 17: 34
    0
    In the event of a real conflict, half of the Ukrainian army will deploy its guns against today's masters, the main task in this turmoil is to prevent these scumbags who sneered at Ukraine and its people from going beyond the "hillock"
  22. svoit
    svoit 18 November 2021 17: 35
    0
    Quote: General of the Sand Quarries
    What is there to translate

    You did not understand anything, the main problem is not the difficulty of translation, but the fact that this may indicate an incompletely depressed moral and psychological state, with all the very sad consequences for Russia.
    Even in 2014, not many people who crossed our border applied for political asylum. And many who live there still consider themselves "Ukrainians".
  23. Alexey Lantukh
    Alexey Lantukh 19 November 2021 14: 08
    0
    As always, a hat-covering. And besides, equating Ukrainians with some kind of tribes, although in Dnepropetrovsk they made at one time the most powerful missile "Satan", which is still on alert in the Russian Federation. Such indifference, "how it will be" and self-complacency leads to the appearance of 28 Panfilov heroes at the walls of the Kremlin.