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Pilot uniform

Where do pilots get their "flight uniforms"?


It is issued by the contentment authorities, and in short - by the clothing service of the aviation technical unit in the garrison, where the lieutenant arrived after school.

How is it issued?

I would like to believe that in this modern world everything is done using digital technologies, and after the young pilot arrives at the unit, his “sizes” (sizes) arrive in electronic form with him in the clothing service, and after a couple of days of registration, the lieutenant receives an SMS with text: "We invite you to the warehouse to receive the property." The lieutenant arrives at the warehouse, where he is given a mountain of clothing (flight and combined arms) that has already been selected in size and a "self-run wheelchair" for transporting this mountain of property to the place of permanent storage.

To be honest, all this is hard to believe.

I'll tell you how all this happened in our time, most likely, nothing has changed much, since such traditions are sacredly observed in our army.

First, a little about the arrangement of the rear in Morskaya aviation at a time when these strange air bases did not yet exist. Let me tell you about the example of the largest aviation garrison, in which they were based: three aviation regiments - a Tu-142 regiment and two Tu-16 regiments (Tu-22M2 / 3), a division headquarters and several support units. The largest part of the support was the aviation technical base (ATB), which provided all the necessary parts and regiments.

Organizationally, the ATB consisted of an automobile battalion, a security company, various services: clothing, food, financial, airfield, fuels and lubricants (fuels and lubricants), an aviation technical property service, an apartment maintenance service, a medical service, and much more was in this ATB , including various warehouses.

The ATB was responsible for everything in the garrison: for the readiness of the airfield, food, clothes, bombs, fuel, money, an infirmary, spare parts for aircraft repair, operation of office buildings ... , and he was not subordinate to either the division commander or the regimental commanders.

Here's a short summary of the general arrangement of the garrison's rear.

In my story about logistic support, I will not blame anyone indiscriminately, I will say only one thing - everyone who at ATB had anything to do with material values ​​were not the best people, with rare exceptions, and therefore, with my painful sense of justice, I have a relationship with ATB were very difficult, and then became, as it happened, even related.

I will not write a novel in two volumes, but I will tell you about some points.

Nuances


The first thing a lieutenant must do upon arriving at the garrison, after being presented to the commanders, is to stand up for all kinds of allowances. There are no problems: I took the certificate to the ATB service department - go to the dining room, issued a clothing certificate - in a day, go to the warehouses, where they will give you a sea of ​​blue sky pants and, most importantly, flight gear, including the coveted leather (chevrette) jacket.

An example from personal life.

Even such a simple thing as getting flight gear, my brother and I could not do calmly, without incident, although not without benefit for ourselves. The squadron commander gave us a few days to settle down, so we were left on our own, there was money, so we allowed ourselves some liberties. For dinner, we went not to the dining room, but to a cafe where they also sold alcohol. We went in greatcoats, as there were no other warm clothes yet. Well, we drank a little and went to our hostel.

It was difficult to walk around the garrison, there was a lot of snow, and we moved along narrow paths. And just imagine - two lieutenants are walking along the path, all of them are military officers, and towards some scarecrow of Tatar nationality in flight uniform, without shoulder straps, which pushed us off the path into the snow, and responded to our indignation with a wild exhaust: “Let's go all the hell, I'm warrant officer Naf-v! ".

Well, how can you tolerate this disgrace?

Of course, we caught up with the ensign, "built" a little and promised to give it to the eye, so that the vision would clear up a little. Then different people came up, chilled us a little and told us that this ensign is the most important in the warehouse of flight gear, and therefore behaves so defiantly. Despite the fact that tomorrow we had to go for flight clothes, we still achieved from the ensign that the officers should not be pushed aside, especially young and beautiful like us.

The surrounding comrades predicted difficulties for us in obtaining flight gear, but this did not frighten us very much, we were wild and did not understand anything in the garrison "table of ranks".

And the next day we went to the warehouse of flight technical uniforms. There was a small line of lieutenants, and at the door stood the same warrant officer who pretended not to recognize us. Standing in line, we watched the distribution of clothes - only shoes were given out in size, all other clothes were taken from a nearby heap, they were inconceivable in size, he answered all claims briefly: "There is nothing, take it, then you will exchange it."

Our turn came ...

We were the same size, they told the ensign to bring everything in two, both at once. He frowned, but silently did as they said, because he did not need to run twice. And when we began to resent the fact that not all the clothes are in size, the ensign committed an unthinkable act, about which the garrison had been legendary for a long time - he said that the old one was already climbing the shelves, and if we want clothes in size, then we ourselves must and find.

With these words, he opened the door to the warehouse, and launched my brother and me into the bins of the Motherland.

We were a little shy, but rushed to choose clothes by size. We did not find everything, but, in principle, we were satisfied.

Leaving the warehouse, I said to this lord of flying gear: "Thank you for the clothes, maybe we got excited yesterday ...", and in response I heard: "Yes, I was drunk, excuse me ...".

This is how we received flight gear for the first time and got to know the head of the flight equipment warehouse. While he served, we had no problems with flying junk.

But, this is a special case, and, in general, things were not very good with flight gear. This is not to say that they were not given out, but it was difficult to get into the right size. In addition, several thousand people had to be dressed in the garrison, so the queues were huge. Be that as it may, I did not see naked pilots and technicians, everyone was dressed according to the season.

Irrevocable items


And now I'll tell you about the clothes that were given to the flight crew.

Jackets - winter, demi-season, leather, overalls - winter, demi-season, summer, shoes - boots, boots, high fur boots, woolen underwear, sweater, woolen and fur socks ("untiata"), fur and kid gloves, protective helmet (helmet) and oxygen mask and a lot of other nonsense, up to rulers and transports. And all this had to be stored somewhere.

In addition to flight gear, we also had a military uniform. These are: overcoats and raincoats, trousers, tunics, jackets, boots and shoes, hats, caps, caps, scarves, underwear and socks, shoulder straps and stars. Overcoats, trousers, tunics and jackets were sewn to order in the atelier, the rest was received at the warehouse. And this, too, had to be stored somewhere.

And now about the so-called "categories" of clothing.

"Military" clothes were considered "personal use" and were given out irrevocably, that is, forever. But flight gear belonged to "inventory property" and was issued for a certain period, and then was subject to delivery to the warehouse.

Example: a leather jacket was issued for 4 years, then it gave up and got a new one. Such property as socks, sweaters, gloves, woolen underwear, for example, after the expiration of the deadline, was not surrendered and passed into personal use. Some of the most valuable items of flight uniforms were allowed to be retained after the deadline and the payment of the residual value.
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  1. ODERVIT
    ODERVIT 10 November 2021 18: 12
    +7
    Grub, clothes are peculiarities of the genre.
    Logistics support is one of the most responsible and complex.
    1. Bez 310
      10 November 2021 18: 17
      +14
      Quote: ODERVIT
      Grub, clothes

      There will be no need to generalize, there will be a separate story about grub, maybe ...
      1. Blacksmith 55
        Blacksmith 55 10 November 2021 18: 29
        +1
        Mikhail, thank you, interesting, although he did not serve in aviation.
        You mentioned your brother in previous articles,
        Twins ?
        1. Bez 310
          10 November 2021 18: 41
          +6
          Quote: Blacksmith 55
          Twins ?

          Yes.
      2. ODERVIT
        ODERVIT 10 November 2021 18: 44
        +2
        I'm talking about phraseology.
        1. Bez 310
          10 November 2021 18: 58
          +12
          Quote: ODERVIT
          about phraseology.

          When I, NSh AP, was asked about the form of clothes for tomorrow, I answered in an accessible language - "in a beautiful form", or "in rags."
          When my wife saw us in flight suits for the first time, she defined our uniform as "Walk like tractor drivers ...".
      3. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 10 November 2021 19: 50
        +8
        Quote: Bez 310
        There will be no need to generalize, there will be a separate story about grub, maybe ...

        Thank you, you are very good at writing - write more.
        1. Bez 310
          10 November 2021 19: 55
          +6
          Quote: tihonmarine
          write more

          I can write "more", but it won't help you in any way, it's all about the editorial office, it forms the order of publications of various authors, and it hardly needs a separate section on naval aviation. So wait for my turn to publish, I myself do not know anything about this, and I cannot predict.
      4. K-36
        K-36 11 November 2021 14: 03
        +6
        Mikhail Vladimirovich (Bez 310), don't blame me, but just forced to polemize with you (and in some places even to opine) yes Not for the sake of nagging, but "for the sake of justice and the additional development of the photograph, so to speak."
        So:
        1. Your idea (from the previous essay) to name this essay Flight uniforms is already incorrect for two reasons: а) Many ignorant readers may perceive the picture of the norms for providing LTO, presented by you, as a general picture in the entire aviation of the Armed Forces. I mean, if you conceived the title as " Flight uniforms of flight personnel of the MA Navy ", then I would not object (because, to be honest, I do not know much about the MA of the Navy). But for a wide range of readers, I would consider it very correct to report that the Voor. Forces also have the Air Force (now Aviation of the Aerospace Forces) , as well as VTA and helicopter units, and each of them has its own standards of LTO allowance; б) Flight uniforms, depending on speeds, altitudes and g-forces, vary greatly and are designed narrowly specialized. As, for example, gray or sandy summer flight suits were issued only for southern latitudes. Or, for example, VKK, PPK, pressure helmets and special gloves are only narrowly specialized for high-altitude interceptors. Or, again, a fur flight suit is prescribed for the flight personnel of the VTA and helicopter pilots (this is the one that has zippers on high pants - zippers a little lower on the back / to go to the pot without removing the pants /), but for jet pilots such a suit is no longer put! And yes, in the Air Force this uniform is called LTO, and not Flight uniform.
        Do not harbor resentment at my comments, please, because there was no yes And one more thing: I ask in advance for an indulgence for other comments in the interests of the readers (of course).
        And so with all due respect (personal) drinks
        1. Bez 310
          11 November 2021 14: 25
          +3
          Quote: K-36
          Do not harbor resentment

          I don’t melt.
          Quote: K-36
          a fur flight suit is prescribed for the flight crew of the VTA and helicopter pilots (this is the one that has zippers on high pants - zippers a little lower than the back / to go to the pot without taking off the pants /), but such a suit is no longer required for jet pilots!

          Surprisingly, when I flew a JET Tu-16 in the naval aviation, they gave me such pants.
          Quote: K-36
          In the Air Force, this uniform is called LTO, and not Flight uniform.

          Surprisingly, FAP 275 for all state aviation, calls what pilots fly in, namely "flight uniforms", and the Norms for the supply of clothing call this uniform "flight clothing and equipment." Rely on valid documents, and you will be happy.
          In general, keep observing, and promptly report any violations you have noticed.
          1. K-36
            K-36 11 November 2021 15: 44
            +4
            In general, keep observing, and promptly report any violations you have noticed.
            I will answer: "I have them." But, again, not in order to "pinch" you in something, but precisely for
            broadening the horizons of readers.
            I will briefly answer this post of yours. Fur overalls with fasteners on the trousers were given out to the pilots subsonic aviation, thus, under this issue were VTA, helicopter pilots and pilots of subsonic aircraft (which includes the Tu-16).
            I did not find FAP in the troops (I retired to the reserve when I reached 45 years old). so I ask you to excuse me for some backwardness of my memories. recourse
            But about routine and romance ready to discuss. Here it may happen that how many retirees / retirees - so many opinions can be. As for me, I would call my service normal work (sometimes everyday, sometimes emergency, but in no way not boring 0! And sometimes bright bursts of emotions were intertwined in this service. For example, in the spring of 1987 (or 86, I don’t remember exactly), the commander of my regiment, p-k Zhilin Yu.V. flew to bomb the landfill. I dropped the bomb, and take it and explode right under the fuselage. Su-17 in half (the cockpit is separate, the rest of the fuselage / including the rear wall of the cockpit / is also separate.). On the tower for about 20 minutes, no one could really answer whether the commander was alive or not. In the lobby of the Central Command and Control Center, all the pilots I met to my question "Where is the commander?" (and I needed him to settle the question of his level of competence) answered evasively "... there is no commander." Then I, being the Beginning. The PDS regiment decided to climb the tower (although according to all the documents I was not one of the officers who had the right to appear on the tower during flights) to clarify two questions 1. Where is the commander? 2. What is the suddenness of sending the PSS-Nogo Mi-8 to the test site? And so, when my head just appeared in the opening of the tower hatch, the RP dumbfounded me with the question "Tell me the beginning of the PDS. Why did the" mosquito "squeak for 2 minutes, and then completely died down?"
            I will continue in the next comment, otherwise, I'm afraid the site will be cut off ...
            1. Bez 310
              11 November 2021 16: 00
              +5
              Quote: K-36
              to broaden the horizons of readers.

              I do not mind, I think that the readers will be interested.
              1. 76SSSR
                76SSSR 11 November 2021 16: 17
                +1
                Quote: Bez 310
                I do not mind, I think that the readers will be interested.

                Of course it will be interesting, as they say, one head is good, but two are better. In general, Mikhail and Viktor, you write interestingly, but the fact that the work is boring for someone, and not very much for someone is individual. My friend in the "outdoor" was somehow dressed up as a beggar and sent to the very bottom of developed socialism ... And this is in the era of the fight against parasitism, but service is service. So he then asked for more ...)
            2. K-36
              K-36 11 November 2021 17: 41
              +7
              ... I will continue. “Stop-stop, - I skazap, - and how is it known about the 2-minute work of Komar2?” To which the RP to me: “According to the report of the ARP-6 on duty. Here is a record - azimuth 30, time 10: 02 - 10:04 "(ARP, as you remember, this is the azimuth direction finder of the emergency frequency (that is, for the general public, this is just the Komar-2 MP radio frequency signal)." You, dragging a major, even a decommissioned pilot for health, so why don’t you know the operation of the K-36 seat? Well, let's remember it. When “The mosquito starts to squeak?”. "Correctly, I confirm. - And when does the NAZ open?" Here, dragging the major, you can, having gathered, remember everything. Well done! And now let's shovel everything into a heap. "Komar" squeaked because it fell out of the NAZ after its opening. The NAZ opened only after the K-36 was disconnected from the pilot. The seat is released from all connections with the pilot's body only when the headrest squibs are triggered. s KSMU, pulls out the lines of the PSU-36 rescue parachute, removes the cover from the canopy and allows it to fill up independently under the weight of the pilot along with the seat. Because of this, the opening of the canopy becomes very fast. And after full deployment, the parachute only holds the pilot. And the chair does not hold anything, it itself down and falls off, including the NAZ lacing pyro-cutters with its withdrawal. The pyro-cutters are triggered after 4 seconds, and the NAZ is revealed. The "mosquito" on the halyard drops out and turns on. What we have in TOTAL: a pilot under a parachute, "Komar" in operation, the pilot descended on a parachute for at least 2 minutes (120 seconds). multiply by the rate of descent = 6m / s and get 720 meters of height. Thus, dragging the major, I can state that the seat with the pilot left the cockpit at an altitude of 750 - 800 meters. "" Yes, but why the Komar stalled and the pilot did not get in touch "- asked the RP.
              I will continue on the next. post.
              1. Bez 310
                11 November 2021 17: 53
                +5
                Quote: K-36
                I will continue on the next. post.

                Why don't you put your memories in the form of an article and send them to the VO editorial office? Pick up a few photos, paste in the right place in the text, and send. It will be interesting for all of us, this is not about migrants to read. In the upper right corner, in your personal account, there is a simple form for submitting an article. Recommend.
              2. K-36
                K-36 11 November 2021 19: 37
                +6
                "And here, dragging the major, let's go to your working map - 500 meters. So, azimuth is 30, so this is our polygon. And now we look at the control point of the airfield (KTA): 163 meters. And what is the height of the underlying surface of the polygon? 68 meters. That is, the "Komar" disappeared behind a cliff near the river, so we can safely add another 100 meters to the previously calculated ejection height. interference!) terrain? What: don't remember, or don't you know? So I'll tell you - 800 meters. And how long is it to the landfill? 60 km. And if we add here the features of the propagation of VHF radio waves (only in direct visual visibility and without obstacles in the form of bushes, trees, mounds or buildings), it turns out that the regiment commander will not be able to contact the tower in any way, given the difference from the KTA of almost 100 meters and its removal is 60 km. And that's why he did not get in touch with RP of the polygon, for me this is also a mystery. However, if you look outside the window, then there is a month of March, small above zero temperatures. The river near the landfill opened up from the ice, the bomb craters on the plateau of the landfill are almost human-sized, wet snow is above, and water is beneath it. Anything can happen. The PSS-naya turntable took off about 20 minutes ago, so any minute we will get some specific information. And so, without information, rolling the barrel at the Commander is too much. Yes, and according to the charter it is not allowed. And as soon as we finished this dialogue, the report of the PSS-nogo Mi-8 was heard over a loud tower on the tower: "I, XXXXX, I hear the Mosquito signal steadily, I watch the Pilot, standing waving."
                The mountain off everyone's shoulders! Then there were reports: what he picked up, that his condition was good, that the removal was 30 and where would you order to sit ... him!), jump onto the landed Mi-40 and fly to the training ground. Draw up the timing of the accident (for the "upward" report on the RPS) and collect the rescue equipment. I went to carry out. So that day I saw the commander only briefly (upon leaving the Mi-8). He was already met by a whole retinue of generals and colonels. However, he saw me in the crowd, separated from the surrounding retinue and shook my hand. And I, together with my warrant officer, flew to the range.
                The commander summoned me two days later. He asked me to tell what kind of conversations I was on the tower with the RP (you see, someone knocked). Well, I told you. And I asked the commander to score my lecture with the entire flight crew of the regiment with the obligatory presence of officers admitted by order to the Flight Management in the schedule of commander training classes in one of the next days. The commander promised. And finally, he offered to write a report on the encouragement of the persons who participated in the preparation of the chair (who saved him). I wrote the report. On the encouragement of their parachute handlers and the subordinate ensign by the decision of the regiment commander. Write yourself ... hesitated. For somehow it did not fit into my (rather parental!) Upbringing. Yes, I will not write now, because it is wrong.
                And I did a lesson with the flight crew. True, in "diplomatic" language (for all RPs are older than me in rank, and in terms of flight experience). And I began with the introduction that any RP is, first of all, a person. Who, before the flights, may have problems of an unofficial nature (he quarreled with his wife, or the children from school began to bring bad grades, or, moreover, skip classes). And then suddenly, like a bolt from the blue - an emergency in the air, and not just an emergency, but an airplane explosion, for example. Such circumstances, in total, can "overwhelm" the normal thinking, so all the officers admitted to the RP, I would ask some of the necessary patterns of behavior to be made under the record. And at home, after dinner, make a cheat sheet to your taste "..
                After this lecture, even the RPs of the neighboring regiment began to greet me, and they even knew my name.
                And such cases from my personal practice, I can paint about a dozen straight at least right now.
                So, excuse me generously, I am serving my uniquely I do not agree to be attributed to the routine!
                Yours faithfully, hi
                1. K-36
                  K-36 11 November 2021 22: 25
                  +2
                  I'm watching football right now. But we can have time during the break. About the chevrette jacket.
                  The instructor pilot Major Shevchuk served in my regiment. They sent him (as an Instructor) either to Lida, or to Baranovichi (I can't remember how long ago). The class of night pilots had to confirm there. So, they are returning in one of the flights in a MiG-23 UB aircraft close to midnight. He's in the back seat. I took a nap, For the elderly man was already going to demobilize. Further, from his revelations a couple of weeks later over a glass of tea (just before sending him to TsNIIAG for examination after the bailout).
                  "I woke up on some kind of wheelchair bed. The light in the ward comes from a lonely lamp in the hallway through the glass on the door. My back and butt hurt incredibly. But worse than all adversity - I want to go to the toilet (small) so that tears are pouring from my eyes. Somehow he crawled to the door; grabbing the doorknob he got up. He opened the door and looked out. At the end of the corridor he saw a peasant at the wall. his muffled groans were heard by the elderly nurse on duty. In the Greek hall, in the Greek hall. "In short," the doctor did not order, return immediately! "." Sister, dear, instead of yelling, better helped to get to the toilet. Otherwise, in 5 seconds, right here ... ". The sister understood the hopelessness of her situation and (out of harm's way) decided to help get there. And then the man at the far window saw and also rushed to help. That man brought him to the urine. kept him upright until everything drained out of the bladder.
                  Only a few days later he found out what exactly happened to him (this is when the attending physician allowed visits to the patient).
                  And this is what happened. He dozed off in the back seat, and the test pilot gave a joint. Began to sit on the side of the runway. And when, in the light of the landing headlight, I saw the electric pillars, and then felt the blow, who immediately pulled the handles of the ejection seat ...
                  The ending (to avoid clipping) in the next post.
                  1. K-36
                    K-36 11 November 2021 23: 51
                    +6
                    And then there was an extraordinary bailout for the MiG-23 UB. The lanterns went off normally, and the chairs (in this case KM-1 M) went in the reverse order. That is, first the first seat, and then the back seat (i.e. Oleg Shevchuk). Here I should explain the work of the KM-1 M at low speeds. After half-way of the seat from the cockpit, a boom with the 1st stabilizing parachute (S = 1 sq. M) is fired from the KM-0,1M. Then (for low speeds!) The bar of the 1st stabilizer is fired from the chair without delay (together with the 1st stabilizer) and thus activates the 2nd stabilizer (S = 2 square meters). At the same time, the chair works out the impulse of the jet engine of the catapult and moves almost perpendicular to the consoles of the kral. At the same time, the chair automation works in parallel. Which folds back the headrest of the chair, while freeing up free space for the main rescue (which should be pulled out exactly by the 2nd stub.) And the automation, meanwhile, continues its work, i.e. unlocks the pilot from the seat. What picture came out of Shevchuk? The chair, under the action of the jet stream of the shooting mez-zma, began to move. The barbell of the 1st stub came out and fired back. 2nd stab. its area tilts the back of the chair to the Earth (up to about 30 degrees). Automatics unlocked the pilot from the cross, and the 2nd stab. began to pull out the main rescue buoy (SS = 60 sq. m). And then ... the blow of the pilot in the chair on Mother Earth. The chair stayed in the air for 4-5 seconds at most. But remember, I mentioned that the 2nd stub. did you manage to lay the chair almost parallel to the earth's surface? So the impact on the Earth was taken over by the corner part of the chair (that is, just the transition of the back to the seat itself). On impact, Shevchuk lost consciousness. In the meantime, the chair, still practicing the impulse of the jet propulsion, slid (bouncing on the bumps) along the ground. With the hut, the main parachute with its rags clung to everything that came across in the path of the chair, thereby extinguishing the speed. Finally, the bottom of the chair pierced the picket fence and stopped, resting against a thick tree trunk ...
                    Well, and to debunk the intrigue with the chevrette jacket. The flame from the front pilot's nozzle shook Shevchuk from above. ZS saved his head. But the flame got out of the jacket. In short, the leather of the jacket has shrunk on the left chest side (where just the pocket for the pistol). He was doubly lucky that the landing speed was low, so he got the flame from the seat that had already flown up. At cruising speed, he would have been killed, since the chair would whistle just over his head and close to this very head.
                    In short, Oleg returned from TsNIIAGA. And immediately to the clothing service: exchange, they say, a shriveled chevret for a normal one. And the clothes went: NO and that's it. The wear period has not expired. I had to initiate a regiment's party meeting with a summons: "On a collective appeal to a higher party organization with a request to replace Shevchuk's jacket, of which he is innocent." Changed the same. A month later.
                    "This is what happened, here" - Mikhail Zhvanetsky. Imperishable classics.
                    Best regards hi PS: and then ours won football (6 - 0). In short, the evening is mine!
                    Therefore, it is not a sin to take 50 drops of tea. drinks
            3. Paladin
              Paladin 12 November 2021 07: 31
              +2
              Of course it is possible to polemize and supplement, but for that there must be completeness. I'll support the author. It was fur overalls, those that "on high pants have zippers a little lower the back / in order to go to the pot without taking off the pants", were also issued in supersonic aviation. If anything, then after the Tu-16 came the Tu-22M2 / 3. Well, I did serve in the YES, the Air Force and caught this transition sufficiently. About half went to Tu-16, and half to Tu-22M3.
              1. Eug
                Eug 14 November 2021 09: 03
                0
                I suspect that subsonic - supersonic is not the main thing, the main thing is the duration of the flight and the presence of a bathroom on board.
                1. Paladin
                  Paladin 15 November 2021 06: 55
                  0
                  Probably the main thing. In subsonic fur uniforms were issued sheathed with material. In the supersonic one, these were naked jackets and semi-overalls. The testers flew through us, drove the cars to the factory, sat down to refuel. So they had chevret bib overalls for chevrette jackets. In the USSR, everything was clearly distributed in accordance with the tasks performed and the need, as well as the possible consequences.
                  1. Eug
                    Eug 15 November 2021 08: 43
                    0
                    Our pilots also had black chevretes in the air defense air defense regiment on the MiG-25PDS, and after a 5-year period they did not return.
                    1. Paladin
                      Paladin 15 November 2021 14: 28
                      0
                      By the way, a lot of things did not come back. Different items had different terms of transfer without replacement, and then they could be left, but still, the residual value of 25-30% had to be paid, or two terms had to be carried.
      5. lukewarm
        lukewarm 14 December 2021 08: 17
        0
        Hello! Are you a navigator? I seem to have read your Zen channel. If I'm not mistaken, everything is the same: naval aviation, twin brother. smile
    2. Thrifty
      Thrifty 10 November 2021 19: 08
      +2
      The biggest disgusting thing in life is when, upon arrival at the unit, there is a sudden check of the work of the clothing service - for a couple of days we have to walk in "form 8" - what we have, then we wear ... And, since the form may "not correspond to the season" , then for violation of its unchangeable "lip" !!!!
      1. Kote Pan Kokhanka
        Kote Pan Kokhanka 10 November 2021 22: 21
        +2
        Quote: Thrifty
        The biggest disgusting thing in life is when, upon arrival at the unit, there is a sudden check of the work of the clothing service - for a couple of days we have to walk in "form 8" - what we have, then we wear ... And, since the form may "not correspond to the season" , then for violation of its unchangeable "lip" !!!!

        Uh-huh form "time" - Watch, parties, gas mask! laughing
  2. Ryaruav
    Ryaruav 10 November 2021 18: 13
    +3
    very good series of articles about flyers, thanks to you you learn a lot
    1. Bez 310
      10 November 2021 18: 22
      +21
      Quote: Ryaruav
      a good series of articles about flyers

      So after all, flyers are not only a whack-whack, but also how to bomb the toilet if the overalls are solid. This is the task!
      1. Sandor Clegane
        Sandor Clegane 10 November 2021 18: 42
        +2
        Quote: Bez 310
        but also how to bomb the toilet if the overalls are solid

        just like on winter fishing, if I'm dressed in a solid jumpsuit, I have a solid one, nothing, it's normal, the main thing is to keep the sequence of actions in my head
        1. Bez 310
          10 November 2021 18: 58
          +6
          Quote: Sandor Clegane
          just like winter fishing

          And if you are in the cockpit of a supersonic missile carrier?
          1. Sandor Clegane
            Sandor Clegane 16 November 2021 17: 42
            0
            Quote: Bez 310
            And if you are in the cockpit of a supersonic missile carrier?

            and if you are on a large forest lake and the temperature is -37 ??
            the main thing is not to fart at the wrong time)))
      2. Mooh
        Mooh 10 November 2021 18: 49
        +2
        By the way, this is also an interesting topic. I heard in the TU-95 the convenience of the "galvanized bucket" system. But what about these in more recent designs?
        1. Product8
          Product8 10 November 2021 19: 15
          +3
          Quote: MooH
          "galvanized bucket"

          Enamelled. Galvanizing darkens and stinks.
          Yes it is.
          The Motherland made such a thing on both the Tu-16 and the Be-12.
          But personally, I did not use it.
          In plastic, then I opened the hatches and threw it away (Be-12).
          1. Mordvin 3
            Mordvin 3 10 November 2021 19: 22
            +3
            Quote: Product8
            Into plastic, then opened the hatches and threw away

            So you can kill someone.
            1. Product8
              Product8 10 November 2021 19: 40
              +5
              Quote: Mordvin 3
              So you can kill someone.

              And this was, he almost killed himself.
              How I almost became a bomb
              http://samlib.ru/editors/s/semenow_aleksandr_sergeewich333/kakiashutbomboinestal-2019.shtml
      3. 76SSSR
        76SSSR 11 November 2021 00: 02
        +2
        Quote: Bez 310
        how to bomb a toilet if the overalls are solid

        For a long time I suggested making a "window" with Velcro on the back in such overalls, I even wrote letters to various authorities. Ah, all to no avail. Then he spat ...
  3. kind
    kind 10 November 2021 18: 30
    +10
    And in our artillery units, warrant officers-storekeepers, two or three months before the extradition, interviewed officers and warrant officers about the size of uniforms and shoes. Moreover, if not all sizes were received, they agreed from the beginning. storage of other parts, changed in size and everything was decided! Then I didn't even think that my size was out of stock! Everything was always there, even fur tankers were always in size! Glory to our Soviet clothes!
    1. Bez 310
      10 November 2021 18: 42
      +5
      Quote: Good
      interviewed officers and warrant officers about the size of the uniform

      How many officers and warrant officers did you have?
      1. kind
        kind 10 November 2021 18: 50
        +15
        The brigade has 258 officers and warrant officers.
        The commander of the brigade said, "What the hell is the growth of the population, if the military are in shnuyu uniforms! Everything should be in size and ironed. Then any female will agree to become the mother of the future defender of the Motherland" !!!
        1. Bez 310
          10 November 2021 19: 00
          +5
          Quote: Good
          In the brigade - 258

          Here you go.
          And we only have more than 500 in one regiment, and three regiments, and also part of the support.
          1. kind
            kind 10 November 2021 19: 03
            +1
            Which shelf?
            1. Bez 310
              10 November 2021 19: 14
              +4
              Quote: Good
              Which shelf?

              In aviation.
              1. kind
                kind 10 November 2021 19: 19
                +1
                Well, yes, in a deployed regiment (probably a fighter regiment) it probably is, including specialists of ground services (armed men, technicians, fuels and lubricants, etc.)
                1. Bez 310
                  10 November 2021 19: 24
                  +5
                  Quote: Good
                  in a deployed regiment (probably a fighter)

                  In fighter less, and this is in missile or anti-submarine.
                  1. kind
                    kind 10 November 2021 19: 38
                    +1
                    And we only have more than 500 in one regiment, and three regiments,

                    Did not know. The Tu-22M2 (M3) division has about 50 aircraft. Crew 4 people, 50x4 = 200 people. Let another 500 people. service staff. It does not work that there are 1500 people in the division. ???
                    1. Bez 310
                      10 November 2021 19: 46
                      +3
                      Quote: Good
                      The Tu-22M2 (M3) division has about 50 aircraft.

                      HAVE, now we do not have that many planes.
                      In a full-fledged regiment there were three squadrons: two squadrons of missile carriers (20 aircraft), and one Tu-16 jammers (10 aircraft), and 3 more crews in control. The figures are slightly indicative.
                      1. kind
                        kind 10 November 2021 19: 49
                        0
                        Quote: Good
                        In the brigade - 258

                        Here you go.
                        And we only have more than 500 in one regiment, and three regiments, and also part of the support.

                        It turns out you are wrong fellow
                      2. Bez 310
                        10 November 2021 19: 57
                        -2
                        Quote: Good
                        It turns out you are wrong

                        What are you speaking about?
                      3. kind
                        kind 10 November 2021 19: 57
                        0
                        About the state of the air regiment
                      4. Bez 310
                        10 November 2021 20: 00
                        -6
                        Quote: Good
                        About the state of the air regiment

                        I do not understand.
                        I cannot be "wrong", you may not understand something.
                    2. Paladin
                      Paladin 12 November 2021 09: 31
                      0
                      If you take a regiment on a Tu-16, a squadron is three flights of three aircraft, plus a squadron commander with a deputy - 11 aircraft, a crew of 6 people, in the third, electronic warfare - 7. Plus half or more, these are technical personnel and fighters, in total the squadron is about 100. Plus the control of the regiment, where there are three crews or four, if the chief of staff is a pilot. And all sorts of different departments, plus TECh, nuclear submarine. So it will be typed for 500, or even more. And not all divisions have two regiments, There were three in the state.
                2. RaDeVl
                  RaDeVl 12 November 2021 13: 39
                  0
                  Only officers and warrant officers in any aviation regiment (even 2 squadron) more than 400 people.
                  1. Product8
                    Product8 12 November 2021 17: 37
                    0
                    Quote: RaDeVl
                    Only officers and warrant officers in any aviation regiment (even 2 squadron) more than 400 people.

                    This is true. The list remained. 122 OPLAE Be-12.
        2. Product8
          Product8 10 November 2021 20: 02
          +3
          Quote: Good
          What the hell is the growth of the population, if the military in shnoy uniforms go!

          When the Serdyukov bases went, and that was the case.
          Marine, Air Force, combined arms.
          Parade in Yelizovo.
    2. mmaxx
      mmaxx 11 November 2021 05: 03
      +1
      This is, straightforward, some kind of miracles and unbelievability! Is it really possible?
      When I served, I did not understand anything. A person came (anyone!), Measure him and hand over a piece of paper to the combat unit. There the clerk will be brought in where necessary and reproduced. It is necessary to issue - there is always a list. Eh ... Probably this will never happen ...
      1. Product8
        Product8 11 November 2021 08: 26
        0
        Quote: mmaxx
        Probably this will never happen ...

        Then they joked, "The people gave, the way the people laugh.
        In general, the patrol in the USSR drove and detained.
        It was called "Dressing Mix". Or mixing ...
        Instead of an overcoat, you put on a fur coat and cut through the garrison.
  4. Product8
    Product8 10 November 2021 18: 40
    +6
    The boots were still fur.
    We weren’t given out, "that’s later, about 1984-5.
    And they gave out fur boots with a zipper.
    High fur boots were often given for gluing the soles.
    I never wore mine.
    There is also a portrait, NL, NRK, a knife, for some reason NPL (a knee-pad for a pilot), flying goggles, chevrette gloves, comforters, a "talking hat" (like 2 pieces, simple and with fur.
    Someone on the Be-12, a hat with glycerin.
    1. Product8
      Product8 10 November 2021 18: 45
      +9
      I found both boots and high fur boots. These are carcasses, 266 ODRAE, Elizovo.
      1. Product8
        Product8 10 November 2021 18: 51
        +5
        About jackets ... earlier they gave out blue ones, then they began to write the Air Force on the sleeve. Then they began to make them camouflaged ...
        After the 90s, the chevretkas were sometimes given restored ones.
        The old one was dismissed, painted, then sewn again.
        Thin skin turned out and wiped off quickly.
    2. Bez 310
      10 November 2021 20: 02
      +8
      Quote: Product8
      High fur boots were often given for gluing the soles.

      Yes, the soles were glued with rubber or felt from felt boots.
      Once we left for a spare in the HBR, then flew to Knevichi, and gagged for 2 weeks. My sole on one fur boots peeled off from the sock, it was very uncomfortable to dance in a restaurant.
    3. not main
      not main 11 November 2021 00: 11
      +1
      Quote: Product8
      NL, NRK, knife, for some reason NPL (flyer's knee pad)

      Well, I don’t know, about the sling cutter knife, I’ll just say it broke in a month! But I have always used NPL! Although it may cost? It's just that there is not a single navigator on the staff!
  5. Pete mitchell
    Pete mitchell 10 November 2021 19: 03
    +7
    We were not so creative, there was a rank by rank and, if necessary, changed. I just put in a “trump” camouflage suit to get it. And when they were dispersed, they forced him to hand over knives and silk linen; everything else was allowed to be redeemed at the residual value, well, except for the helmets, of course. Some kind of x .. a character from the district came, we asked him to leave us the General Staff, we were probably the last ones who received them ... - yes, I burned leather jackets in another regiment... - Well, you and the "character" lieutenant colonel. We left after lunch, and there was a fire from our general staff ...
    So there are peculiarities everywhere
    1. Bez 310
      10 November 2021 19: 28
      +4
      Quote: Pete Mitchell
      We were not so creative, there was a rank by rank

      It all depends on the number of people dressed.
      In the fighter regiment, you can pre-assemble the dimensions and order, they have fewer pilots than in the Tu-142 detachment.
      1. Product8
        Product8 10 November 2021 19: 43
        +8
        Quote: Bez 310
        In a fighter regiment

        The verticals had black suede fur.
        Transferred from TAVKR to beshki st. leith.
        Examined, measured. The size is probably 46, they were all small there on the Yak-38.)))
        1. Bez 310
          10 November 2021 19: 50
          +7
          Quote: Product8
          were black suede fur.

          Jackets?
          And we were given out on the "backfire", called - "naked". I had, very impractical, short, and the fur was constantly falling off.
          1. Product8
            Product8 10 November 2021 19: 56
            +4
            Quote: Bez 310
            "naked"

            We were not given such. Then, at the end of the 80s, there was a lot of faux fur.
            There was a scandal ... I still have it ... the mole definitely does not eat)))
        2. Pete mitchell
          Pete mitchell 10 November 2021 19: 53
          +6
          Quote: Product8
          were black suede fur

          Well this is the THING, only we did not use pants - it was considered harmful
          1. Product8
            Product8 10 November 2021 20: 05
            +5
            Quote: Pete Mitchell
            This is the THING

            Well, the most thing is leather alpacas from submariners.
            1. Pete mitchell
              Pete mitchell 10 November 2021 22: 13
              +9
              Quote: Product8
              the most thing is alpaca leather from divers.

              At the submariners in Savastlake lol there once they retrained the northern ones to the 31st and one answered in the Aerodynamics test: - I'm not familiar with Aerodynamics. Navigator of the nuclear-powered ship, a drop of xxxxx - Can you imagine the surprise in the air defense IA retraining center? The navigator of the nuclear-powered ship was cut; offered as a navigator for the MRA Il-38; they were reduced, but the gaps were already sinit - they offered to retrain as a navigator - PK MiG-31 .., he ended up in Savastlake.
              There were dashing times….
              1. Bez 310
                10 November 2021 22: 22
                +5
                Quote: Pete Mitchell
                Navigator of the nuclear-powered ship ... offered to retrain as a navigator - PK MiG-31

                Yeah...
                One of our comrades, a helicopter pilot, told the story that an aviation lieutenant-navigator had grown up on a nuclear-powered icebreaker to become a first mate.
                1. Pete mitchell
                  Pete mitchell 10 November 2021 22: 24
                  +3
                  Life is full of unexpected turns ... - live in the proposed circumstances.
                  1. Mouse
                    Mouse 10 November 2021 22: 28
                    +1
                    Tramp, but turn the proposed circumstances in your favor?
                    1. Pete mitchell
                      Pete mitchell 10 November 2021 22: 59
                      +2
                      This is also not a sin at all, but a lot has to be broken.
                      As old man Rothschild said there - the state is made when Empires collapse, or are created
                      1. Mouse
                        Mouse 10 November 2021 23: 15
                        +1
                        Stoic or Stoic ... Tramp tell me how to help
                      2. Pete mitchell
                        Pete mitchell 10 November 2021 23: 17
                        +2
                        Mouse, kind soul .. hi
                      3. Mouse
                        Mouse 10 November 2021 23: 21
                        +1
                        Tramp, even though this site is not encouraged to send greetings ... health to you and your whole family!
                      4. Pete mitchell
                        Pete mitchell 10 November 2021 23: 30
                        +3
                        Mouse, I greet you and yours hi
                        Should we be in sorrow, let “others” experience - betrayal is a terrible sin. But that's another story wink Hang up, early tomorrow ...
              2. Product8
                Product8 10 November 2021 22: 24
                +6
                The author of the article has a sailor's father, but ended up in aviation.
                Frunze, a submariner navigator, was trained at 38 BDR on the IL-667.
                But somehow he got accustomed, he grew to the navigator of the detachment. Already retired, he taught at the school that he graduated from.
                The cellmate in the hostel.
                With melancholy drew BDR, this is 1980. They hit the special officer, took the picture, whipped everyone (((
                I have about him in the story "Non-Tradition" ... BDR is still alive))) Hangs on the wall.
                1. Pete mitchell
                  Pete mitchell 10 November 2021 22: 27
                  +2
                  Quote: Product8
                  The author of the article has a sailor's father, but ended up in aviation. I got to us on the Il-38 after Frunze's release.
                  From Frunze to aviation ... this is the turn
                  1. Bez 310
                    10 November 2021 22: 59
                    +7
                    Quote: Pete Mitchell
                    From Frunze to aviation

                    My father graduated from the VMU im. Frunze, "navigator of a surface ship", rose to the rank of navigator of the Tu-16 squadron on the Northern Fleet, then taught aeronautics at the aviation school of navigators.
                    1. Pete mitchell
                      Pete mitchell 10 November 2021 23: 20
                      +5
                      My eldest entered the navigational faculty in Frunze in '82.
                      These are dashing turns. And we were taught Aircraft, aka Navigation, by a former IBA pilot - an award was announced for his head
                      1. Bez 310
                        11 November 2021 08: 44
                        +3
                        Quote: Pete Mitchell
                        us Air Navigation, aka Navigation, taught by a former IBA pilot

                        My father was offered to become the head of the department of aircraft navigation for fighter pilots in Kharkov. He went there, looked around, and indignantly refused, they say, the program provides for the study of only the basic provisions, this is not a study, but familiarization.
                    2. 76SSSR
                      76SSSR 10 November 2021 23: 45
                      +3
                      Quote: Bez 310
                      My father graduated from the VMU im. Frunze, "navigator of a surface ship", rose to the rank of navigator of the Tu-16 squadron on the Northern Fleet

                      How did it happen? Well, when not from the DVOKU, but from the RVVDKU to the MP, they are sent to Ryazan, at least there is a "Marine application" as a direction, but here? With political officers, by the way, this often happened - a pilot’s political officer is thrown into the coastal units of the fleet, for example, and he walks there like a white crow in blue.) True, many are "repainted". Although in the army, a "tractor driver" from Chelyaba may eventually command an air regiment. This is the strength of our army - the versatility of the use of personnel.
                      1. Ryazan87
                        Ryazan87 11 November 2021 00: 51
                        +4
                        This is the strength of our army - the versatility of the use of personnel.

                        Which is what the current commander of the Aerospace Forces confirms.
                      2. K-36
                        K-36 12 November 2021 14: 27
                        0
                        76USSR (Novel). Take a look at Lichka, please. I have sent you a small letter.
                        Yours faithfully, hi
    2. Product8
      Product8 10 November 2021 19: 29
      +3
      Quote: Pete Mitchell
      then forced to hand over the knives

      It was a good knife, with a stopper and a saw.
      They were not taken away at the airport check. In the early 80s, I went on a plane with him to the DMD and VNKV.
      1. Pete mitchell
        Pete mitchell 10 November 2021 19: 52
        +9
        Quote: Product8
        It was a good knife, with a stopper and a saw

        I do not agree with you, the stopper is reliable, but the blade is not so hot; the saw was good. Later I spent money and specialists brought me a knife ...
        1. Product8
          Product8 10 November 2021 19: 57
          +4
          Quote: Pete Mitchell
          I do not agree with you

          So a freebie)))
          1. Mouse
            Mouse 10 November 2021 22: 31
            +2
            Forgot to add ... freebie
            Sir! request
            1. Pete mitchell
              Pete mitchell 10 November 2021 22: 57
              +4
              Mouse hi Gray my students call me, but everything is still - Captain ... or Skipper
              1. Mouse
                Mouse 10 November 2021 23: 01
                +1
                To the skipper of the aircraft! hi
              2. Bez 310
                11 November 2021 08: 56
                +4
                Quote: Pete Mitchell
                The students call me gray, but everything is still - Captain ... or Skipper

                I will have to tell about nicknames among the officers, if I don’t forget, and the editorial office will allow it.
  6. Free wind
    Free wind 10 November 2021 19: 09
    +2
    Damn, where to store all this mountain of rags what , And the moth will not doze after seeing such a bunch of sweets. And mice frolic only on the way. wassat .
    1. Bez 310
      10 November 2021 19: 19
      +9
      Quote: Free Wind
      and where to store all this mountain of rags

      And what kind of housing they will keep there.
      But what kind of housing it was possible to get in a crowded garrison is a topic for a separate story.
      And the moth was very, very interested in high fur boots ...
      1. Free wind
        Free wind 10 November 2021 19: 34
        +3
        Yes, that's for sure. You pour everything with mothballs and then stink like a grandmother's chest. It is interesting, looking at the list, to make a car for tens of millions of rubles, and not just make heating in the cabin, is it really so difficult.
        1. Bez 310
          10 November 2021 19: 42
          +12
          Quote: Free Wind
          do not just heating in the cockpit

          Why not do it?
          The Tu-22m3 has an excellent air conditioning system (AHC), it is warm in winter, and frost flies from the grates in summer. But in the Tu-16 it was a little different ...
          1. merkava-2bet
            merkava-2bet 10 November 2021 21: 35
            +1
            Thank you, great job, but not enough, not enough my friend.
            1. Bez 310
              10 November 2021 21: 42
              +1
              Quote: merkava-2bet
              little, little my friend.

              Who are you and what are you talking about?
              1. merkava-2bet
                merkava-2bet 10 November 2021 21: 53
                +4
                I am very interested in sea and VKK suits, as well as means of survival at sea and land. And also the question, I read that the Tu-16 and Tu-95 have an inflatable rescue boat, who will have time to use it when you crash into the ocean and even stormy one?
                1. Product8
                  Product8 10 November 2021 22: 11
                  +2
                  Quote: merkava-2bet
                  I am very interested in sea and VKK suits, as well as means of survival at sea and land.

                  I made a selection here somehow.
                  Forum of the site "Military Parity" → Aircraft / weapons / disasters → Aircraft rescue equipment. Household features. Usage.
                  https://forum.militaryparitet.com/viewtopic.php?id=28585
                  1. merkava-2bet
                    merkava-2bet 10 November 2021 22: 12
                    +1
                    I read your work, I liked it very much, thank you.
                2. Bez 310
                  10 November 2021 22: 15
                  +3
                  Quote: merkava-2bet
                  I read that the sides of the Tu-16 and Tu-95 have an inflatable rescue boat

                  Tu-16 has long been gone, let the long-range men talk about the Tu-95.
                  Previously, the Tu-16 had individual LAS-1 boats and two LAS-5 group boats. On the Tu-22m3 there are rafts in the parachute, and it seems there is a group LAS-5m. There is a Naval Forces.
                  All the details are on the Internet.
                  1. Alexander Egorov
                    Alexander Egorov 28 November 2021 17: 54
                    0
                    I read your = "Naval Aviation -There is!" I was delighted. Written truthfully.
                    1. Bez 310
                      28 November 2021 17: 57
                      0
                      Quote: Alexander Egorov
                      Written truthfully.

                      Why should I lie?
                      What happened is what I am writing about.
              2. merkava-2bet
                merkava-2bet 10 November 2021 21: 54
                0
                Something the forum is buggy, I wrote a message and the meaning was reduced.
        2. Product8
          Product8 10 November 2021 19: 49
          +2
          Quote: Free Wind
          and not just heating in the cockpit, is it really so difficult

          Well .... the hose was pressurized.
          His boots and warmth))) The Navy did not give it out, only in the movie about the Be-12. Like this one, from memory.
      2. Alexander Egorov
        Alexander Egorov 28 November 2021 17: 49
        0
        Mongohto St. Teatralnaya d. 8 hostel 568 MRAP. Moths and bedbugs were frightened with kerosene. The rats were shooting from pneumatics ... And the supply of 68-78 years. was normal. The uniform (tunic, trousers and overcoat) was sewn in the atelier of the military organization. Many officers had cuts in their stash ...... The sewing ones went on business trips to Leonidovo. Then you could get your hands on them.
    2. Mouse
      Mouse 10 November 2021 23: 09
      +1
      Dispose of ..... your profit ...
    3. saygon66
      saygon66 11 November 2021 00: 52
      0
      In our hostel, in the room of bachelors, there was a cherished closet in which the belongings of those who lived in the room were kept, but even more belongings of those who had left for the new duty station ... That's where the Klondike was!
      - As needed, almost any piece of uniform could be removed from the depths of the cabinet ... wink
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    2. Undecim
      Undecim 10 November 2021 20: 22
      +13
      RoTTor!
      Behave correctly towards the author. Rudeness and insults are not welcome.
      1. Mouse
        Mouse 10 November 2021 23: 26
        0
        ... Are you jealous?
        Yes, it's hard to live

        Rudeness to rudeness ... online ... laughing
    3. Kote Pan Kokhanka
      Kote Pan Kokhanka 10 November 2021 22: 32
      +4
      Quote: RoTTor
      Who cares about this crap from the last millennium?
      the author is a petty tutor, who is fucking idle

      And if without insults and reasoned?
  8. Real Pilot
    Real Pilot 10 November 2021 20: 22
    +4
    Quote: Bez 310
    Quote: ODERVIT
    Grub, clothes

    There will be no need to generalize, there will be a separate story about grub, maybe ...

    Thanks for the story! It's interesting to write, I'm waiting for the continuation.
    Personal experience is worthy of attention - this is life, and there is already an abundance of news on the site (especially about the near abroad and overseas expanses).
  9. Product8
    Product8 10 November 2021 21: 31
    +3
    The name would be- "Flight personnel uniform".
    And the cadets were also given out. Not "Kanolevoye", of course, but there were flights in winter.
    Zhdanov. 4th course. Internship.
    1. Bez 310
      10 November 2021 21: 44
      +2
      Quote: Product8
      The name would be "Flight Personnel Uniforms".

      The name was somewhat different, but the editors changed it in their own interests.
      1. Product8
        Product8 10 November 2021 21: 47
        +1
        Quote: Bez 310
        but the editors changed it in their own interests.

        The editorial board consists of Chkalovites)))
        The pilots are all new, the navigator is like tractor drivers.
        A little humor.
        Outfit from a uniform?
        And the concept of equipment, or clothing supply for flight personnel?
  10. Mouse
    Mouse 10 November 2021 22: 46
    +2
    They littered the airwaves ...
    1. 76SSSR
      76SSSR 11 November 2021 00: 13
      0
      Well, pilots have clothes like a good woman ...)
      1. Mouse
        Mouse 11 November 2021 00: 27
        0
        I'm at a loss ........
        I look, you, special? ...
        1. 76SSSR
          76SSSR 11 November 2021 00: 34
          +1
          Quote: Mouse
          I'm at a loss ........
          I look, you, special? ...

          Yes, what special, just joking, did not notice the "bracket" at the end? If it is unsuccessful, then do not blame me - you will not please everyone ...
          1. Mouse
            Mouse 11 November 2021 00: 39
            +1
            Also, don't blame me ... misunderstood a little ...
  11. Pushkar
    Pushkar 11 November 2021 11: 05
    +2
    everyone who at ATB had anything to do with material values ​​was not the best people,
    Again a collection of jokes and evil tales, this time about OBATO. Two snobbish drunken yesterday's cadets climbed up with the first comer. Heroes. Moreover, the elderly warehouse manager did not try to take revenge, he even apologized. But still "not the nicest person."
    1. Bez 310
      11 November 2021 11: 47
      0
      Quote: Pushkar
      about OBATO

      No, about ATB.
      Do you know something about the service in the logistics units?
      Did you serve yourself, or your relatives? Tell us, it will be interesting to know your version.
      1. Pushkar
        Pushkar 11 November 2021 14: 21
        +2
        Maybe in YES and ATB. I retired from the IA of the Air Defense Forces in 1988. In the early 80s he went to the rear after being wounded. He served in several positions, for three years in charge. Theft? Basically in the regiment, through the foremen, by writing off. Rigorous accounting, checking and reconciliation of the expense and write-off by the rear services of the corps and the district for each semi-annual issue, in addition to unscheduled audits. Already in the early 80s, our stalled industry could not always fully fulfill army orders (navigator's watches did not arrive, officers' fur gloves were not supplied in full, etc.). Therefore, the control was tight. Does the warehouse manager go to the flight department? Most likely by agreement with the flight crew. My storekeeper bought a fur coat from one of the pilots, and begged the overalls from a pilot who entered the Lenin Academy. I will not say that all the officers and warrant officers were angels, as everywhere there were scoundrels, but mostly they were people who honestly performed their duties. The regimental officers treated them downright, like they are front-line soldiers, they shed blood with sacks, and here people sit in the rear. PS for Shkodnik65. Then, in our system, the provision of LTO went through the clothing service.
        1. Bez 310
          11 November 2021 15: 22
          +1
          Quote: Pushkar
          Maybe in YES and ATB

          I do not know how it was in YES, because I am talking about my service in MA.
  12. Shkodnik65
    Shkodnik65 11 November 2021 13: 24
    +3
    It is issued by the content authorities, and, in short, by the clothing service of the aviation technical unit.
    Dear author, I am making an amendment. Material service has nothing to do with LTO (and what you wrote about LTO) has nothing from the word ABSOLUTELY. Providing LTO, GSh, ZSh, brake parachutes, silk linen, JSC, REO, etc. - that is, the aviation-technical service of ATC is engaged in aviation-technical property. And the material one provides the military personnel with GENERAL uniforms. And this, as they say, is a completely different story. yes
    1. Bez 310
      11 November 2021 14: 27
      +1
      Quote: Shkodnik65
      Material service has nothing to do with LTO (and what you wrote about LTO) has nothing from the word ABSOLUTELY.

      I'm not ready to argue with you yet.
  13. kytx
    kytx 11 November 2021 15: 22
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    Continuation is necessary however!
  14. zenion
    zenion 11 November 2021 16: 39
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    In 1964, the company consisted of 23 three soldiers and two officers. There were two uniforms for 23 soldiers. Khrushchev, sent all the front-line soldiers from the army. Many write that Stalin shot the specialists and commanders. Khrushchev did not shoot, but threw him out of the army. For three years of service, when Brezhnev was in power, uniforms were not sewn. And whoever went on leave he took a uniform in the closet. And so this uniform was transitional. It's great that at least food has appeared, except for potatoes and herring. New young pilots came from the schools, but there was nothing to fly because of the lack of fuel and alcohol. Several times a month, three fighters rose and, after making several circles, returned to the airfield, but it was necessary to learn and gain experience. So who was Khrushchev for the Soviet Union ?!
  15. Alexander Egorov
    Alexander Egorov 28 November 2021 17: 32
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    143 MRAD in the garrison of Mongohto. 68-78 y. Beginning a clothing warehouse a foreman, and then ensign Nafikov. It was possible to agree with him to replace the old leather jacket (left for itself) with a fresh one. This is how an almost new one appeared in my wardrobe ...
  16. svit55
    svit55 6 December 2021 18: 54
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    OBATO is a separate aviation maintenance battalion. In our regiment they said that there are two opposing blocs, NATO and OBATO.