President Putin on the American ship in the Black Sea: "We can look at it not only through binoculars, but also through the scope"

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In Sochi, the head of state is meeting with representatives of defense industry enterprises, as well as with senior officials of the country's Defense Ministry. Among the issues discussed are the development of the defense component, rearmament of the army and fleet.

In the context of this topic, an issue was raised related to the entry of another US Navy ship into the waters of the Black Sea. We are talking about the flagship warship USS Mount Whitney, which was sent to the Black Sea basin to "coordinate with the Allied fleets during the exercise." Part of the fleets of the US allies will be engaged in operations in the Mediterranean. Noteworthy is the fact that USS Mount Whitney is already the second American ship that has been sent to the Black Sea in recent days. Prior to that, the missile-armed destroyer USS Porter entered the Black Sea.



Vladimir Putin commented on the US naval activity in the region, which is many thousands of nautical miles from the United States itself.

According to the President of Russia, everyone who gathered at the meeting in Sochi knows very well that another US Navy warship has entered the Black Sea. Opening the meeting, Vladimir Putin said that "today we can look at this ship not only through binoculars, but also through the sight of defensive systems."

President Putin pointed out that the United States has well-known plans for deploying medium-range missiles in Europe. This, as the head of state noted, poses a serious danger to Russia.

Recall that earlier in the Black Sea, the British destroyer HMS Defender arranged a provocation. He violated the maritime borders of the Russian Federation in the Crimea region, passing through the water area closed by the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation. With his statement about the American ship, Vladimir Putin actually warned him against repeating the Defender provocation. Recall that then, after repeated "verbal" warnings from the British crew, the Coast Guard ship opened warning fire, which was intended to show this crew that its actions could end badly for the destroyer. Also, at the rate of the British destroyer in Russian waters, the Su-24M dropped aviation Bombs.

For obvious reasons, the Russian Black Sea Fleet is currently monitoring the situation with the activity of American warships in the Black Sea area and is ready to suppress any provocative attempts.
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  1. 0
    1 November 2021 16: 39
    Who will look through the scope? It is necessary to look so that they want to run away
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    2. -7
      1 November 2021 17: 03
      "We pick up a kaleidoscope lol ", you can also have a telescope, but there will be some actions? Or, will they send an oar boat into the air so that they can shoot signal flares into the air after the destroyer? ??
      1. 0
        1 November 2021 17: 17
        By the way, on the nose with modern chemistry, this is easy, but the Kevlar end is better, it does not drown the bastard.
        1. +5
          1 November 2021 17: 29
          Quote: tralflot1832
          better kevlar end

          Than a boatswain without end! (pun).
          1. +1
            1 November 2021 17: 39
            The boatswain, without a mooring group, bilge rooms, red lead, and ball paint, is not a boatswain at all, but a semblance of America: there is authority, but is unable to influence something
            1. +1
              1 November 2021 20: 40
              I wonder if this time the foreigners will climb into the territorial waters of Russia and how - if they do - will it end? Will there be shooting to kill?
              1. 0
                1 November 2021 22: 17
                Quote: Vladimir Mashkov
                Will there be shooting to kill?

                Investments in Anglo-Saxon banks?
              2. SSR
                +1
                1 November 2021 22: 38
                Quote: Vladimir Mashkov
                I wonder if this time the foreigners will climb into the territorial waters of Russia and how - if they do - will it end? Will there be shooting to kill?

                In Europe, there are no resources of a plain throat only to the East. Only this time they are full ... but the United States is playing out its own scenario.
                Without resources, the PRC is no rival.
              3. 0
                2 November 2021 05: 24
                Honestly, I don’t know, the G20 Putin and Xi ottroli in full. Glasgow is now already ottroli in full. China sent only a handwritten letter, Putin only video. To raise the level of Glasgow, the United States is now announcing the performance of the can as "significant." it is needed, without Russia and China.
              4. +1
                5 November 2021 20: 17
                Quote: Vladimir Mashkov
                I wonder if this time the foreigners will climb into the territorial waters of Russia and how - if they do - will it end? Will there be shooting to kill?

                After laying the bombs at the rate of the British and the statement of the GDP about the sight from the sight, giving the rear one is somehow not solid. And the striped ones are not fools, they must understand that diapers cannot be dispensed with ... hi
        2. -2
          1 November 2021 19: 20
          there are no stupid kevlar ends on ships
          1. 0
            2 November 2021 05: 30
            Back in 2007, we already used these lines for lifting the trawl with might and main. 10 meters cost $ 10000. But conveniently, the Dealers were happy. There are no ends, the price will be cosmic, but there is a line.
          2. 0
            5 November 2021 20: 12
            Quote: Ryaruav
            there are no stupid kevlar ends on ships

            Information for fool :
            Kevlar, propylene, steel. Comparing the mooring lines on the ship (pros and cons):
            https://zen.yandex.ru/media/papavmore/kevlar-propilen-stal-sravnivaiu-shvartovnye-koncy-na-sudne-pliusy-i-minusy-614baf8b288f364b869edfbc
        3. 0
          5 November 2021 20: 08
          Quote: tralflot1832
          By the way, on the nose with modern chemistry, this is easy, but the Kevlar end is better, it does not drown the bastard.

          Better nylon. I served a good end with an arm thick in Ullapool from the stern to the Scots, until the whole bay ended, there were enough pounds for everyone ... Then they wrote off the storm ... wassat
      2. -12
        1 November 2021 17: 47
        We take a kaleidoscope in our hands lol ", we can also have a telescope, but there will be some actions? Or, will they send a longboat oar in order to shoot signal flares from it into the air after the destroyer? ??

        you can just launch rocket launches in the area where you are ... let the pin dossy wear diapers
        1. 0
          2 November 2021 12: 39
          And without action, the Americans will leave. Don't rush them.
      3. -7
        1 November 2021 17: 59
        So it will not catch up. Have already checked.
    3. +8
      1 November 2021 17: 09
      Whoever needs it - he will look and tell you where to point, and even so that they will skiddle with leaps and bounds - just GIVE the command, spineless, do not be afraid for your shoulder straps and positions ...
      1. -2
        1 November 2021 17: 29
        What exactly are we going to drown the overseas provider with? What kind of missile or torpedo is preferable? A battle begins, let's say, and who has what options?
        1. +1
          1 November 2021 17: 39
          There would be no battle if it had remained in the Aegean Sea, then yes oh! Wait a minute to wander around and go home. And there will be a cry that they almost moored on Bocharka.
          1. -2
            1 November 2021 22: 20
            Quote: tralflot1832
            There will be no fight


            Absolute ...
        2. +1
          1 November 2021 19: 28
          Quote: OrangeBigg
          What exactly are we going to drown the overseas provider with? What kind of missile or torpedo is preferable? A battle begins, let's say, and who has what options?

          It's no secret that under. submarines of the Black Sea Fleet with a group of escort ships went to work out training tasks for Odessa. We have a polygon there ... Something like that. No drooling, snot and spitting, tearing hair on various parts of the body, rolling in the mud, screaming about ... are polymers! Our sailors submariners love the song - "When a tired submarine goes home from the depths !!" https://youtu.be/F7oucUsiwYk
      2. -1
        1 November 2021 18: 36
        do not be afraid for your shoulder straps and positions ...
        question to whom?
  2. -9
    1 November 2021 16: 40
    And, it is best to draw a bright, close-up red line right on the water in the sea, and to prohibit the destroyer from approaching this line, under threat of supply, to the reefs by a formidable decree. ..
    1. -10
      1 November 2021 16: 48
      "What can you do? I can dig, but I can not dig"
    2. -13
      1 November 2021 17: 21
      You laugh, but the personnel of the Black Sea Fleet and not only he said goodbye to his family and went to defend his homeland. The President at the coastline is also not joking.
      1. -12
        1 November 2021 17: 31
        Honor and praise to the sailors of the Black Sea Fleet. And the president's trolling (near the coastline) in the villa looks quite comical. It would be better in Siberia in the bunker to give clear orders, and not "devils red lines." Koi have already been crossed.
        1. -1
          1 November 2021 17: 47
          Quote: 210ox
          It would be better to give clear orders in a bunker in Siberia

          In 20 years, he has come up with so many orders, but how many have been carried out? belay
          1. -4
            1 November 2021 20: 48
            Quote: ROSS 42
            Quote: 210ox
            It would be better to give clear orders in a bunker in Siberia

            In 20 years, he has come up with so many orders, but how many have been carried out? belay


            Give examples of Putin's orders.
            1. +1
              1 November 2021 22: 22
              Quote: Dalmatia
              Give examples of Putin's orders

              Will you provide a permit?
        2. -2
          1 November 2021 17: 59
          Bocharka, located 340 km from Turkey, the country of the NATO bloc.
        3. -2
          2 November 2021 10: 21
          Stunned by how many opponents of the Putin regime, and you have a minus for what? For patriotism?
          1. +3
            2 November 2021 10: 40
            Well, how would it be. It seems to me that Rogozin bit Putin. But the person seems to be saying the right things. But either there are problems with the executors (as with the May decrees), or for the sake of citizens these words. To reassure.
      2. -7
        1 November 2021 19: 33
        Quote: tralflot1832
        You laugh, but the personnel of the Black Sea Fleet and not only he said goodbye to his family and went to defend his homeland. The President at the coastline is also not joking.

        The personnel of the Black Sea Fleet does not say goodbye to families ... this is Raz.Soldiers and klister pipes about the fleet do not understand this two. Putin arrives the other day in Sevastopol these are three. (the strengthening of antiquarian measures in Sevastopol is associated with the visit there of Vladimir Putin to celebrate the day of national unity, - political scientist Andrei Tikhonov.). https://forpostsevastopol.ru/social / sevastopol-vstretit-putina-v-den-narodnogo-edinstva-blok-postami-smi / so that it’s you who are sitting at the bunker ...
        1. 0
          1 November 2021 22: 23
          Quote: 30 vis
          Putin arrives the other day

          Thank God...
        2. -2
          2 November 2021 05: 08
          Globally, he may be right. Savastopol is our main base on the Black Sea. There are so-called "bubbles" where Putin B and B appear. The personnel of these "Bubbles" have no contact with the outside world for a long time. They are like sailors. , are in a limited space. They receive a salary, and all other household needs are provided by the state. You are fed, watered, clothed at the expense of the budget, maybe with a bonus, and all the money you earn is used by the family behind the fence.
        3. 0
          2 November 2021 08: 24
          When I went on a flight, my wife always told my wife where to go if anything, but it was always done with jokes. the sailor's wife.
    3. -3
      2 November 2021 08: 04
      Everyone already knows that sending NATO ships to the Black Sea is counterproductive and not conducive, I would also add that it is simply shameless. The only plus, you can look at them through binoculars or better through a telescope and wearing a cocked hat. Putin looks very dignified in Sochi in a cocked hat with a spyglass on guard.
      1. -2
        2 November 2021 10: 00
        [/ Quote]
        [quote = mikh-korsakov] Putin looks very dignified in Sochi in a cocked hat with a spyglass on guard. [/ quote] Putin is arriving in Sevastopol the other day. unity, - political scientist Andrey Tikhonov.) ..Khe to heh ...
  3. -5
    1 November 2021 16: 44
    And I think that it took me so long to get to the house from the shift. And it won’t be Mikhalych! And why only in the crosshairs, on this command staff barge! And the place of decision making? I love the Glasgow Rangers football club.
  4. +6
    1 November 2021 16: 46
    Such a good look is through the sight of defensive systems.
    Personally, I like it. And a finger on the button. We got to wander around the Russian sea. It's been 8 years since their plans for the Crimea have collapsed, but they still won't calm down ... wassat
    1. -4
      1 November 2021 17: 18
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      Such a good look is through the sight of defensive systems.
      Personally, I like it. And a finger on the button. We got to wander around the Russian sea. It's been 8 years since their plans for the Crimea have collapsed, but they still won't calm down ... wassat

      will the rocket fly to London? and there are children ...
      1. +9
        1 November 2021 17: 26
        Quote: Dead Day
        will the rocket fly to London? and there are children ...

        Call them urgently to leave ... for the same Caribbean
      2. +1
        1 November 2021 17: 31
        London is seen on the Black Sea coast, once launched on an American ship, a rocket can fly to London.
      3. -6
        1 November 2021 17: 43
        At my place of work, my child is studying as a senior engineer with a salary of four zeros, maybe that's enough.
        1. +4
          1 November 2021 19: 26
          buddy, from you a rotten fish carries a mile away, no one is to blame that the choice was yours, yes you are a fine fellow as all fishermen (sailors twice) but in many arguments you are wrong
          1. -4
            2 November 2021 04: 32
            You need to appreciate your knowledge that you acquired at sea by exploiting equipment, but on the shore this knowledge must be multiplied by 2. And everything will be fine. This is how we live.
      4. +10
        1 November 2021 17: 49
        will the rocket fly to London? and there are children ...

        well tody good bye london ... i won't cry
        1. +1
          1 November 2021 22: 01
          London goodbye - ooh, London goodbye, it's time to go home (Karman ((s))
      5. +5
        1 November 2021 18: 06
        Quote: Dead Day
        will the rocket fly to London? and there are children ...

        Whose? Putin? Shoigu? Lavrov? Enough to carry this bald patch ... whoever needs children don't live there ... And whoever doesn't need it - I don't mind ...
        1. -2
          2 November 2021 01: 14
          Quote: Mountain Shooter
          Whoever needs children don't live there ... And whoever doesn't need it - it's not a pity ...

          Everybody lives there. hi
      6. +2
        1 November 2021 19: 36
        Quote: Dead Day
        Quote: Mountain Shooter
        Such a good look is through the sight of defensive systems.
        Personally, I like it. And a finger on the button. We got to wander around the Russian sea. It's been 8 years since their plans for the Crimea have collapsed, but they still won't calm down ... wassat

        will the rocket fly to London? and there are children ...

        Yes, and to hell with (root crop!) With these children and these. drinks
      7. -4
        1 November 2021 22: 25
        Quote: Dead Day
        will the rocket fly to London? and there are children ...

        Here.
        We have such missiles ... but we will not show them to you, because we are afraid of them ourselves.
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      1. 0
        1 November 2021 18: 08
        Quote: Clochard
        Smiled, Sperskoe, Pontus Euxian, Scythian, I heard Ruskoe, Russian-no

        While being in Constantinople, have you heard? With intonations?
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      2. -2
        1 November 2021 19: 39
        Quote: Clochard
        Smiled, Sperskoe, Pontus Euxian, Scythian, Rusko heard, Russian-no.
        Be more precise in expressions laughing

        Are you Bandera's chi svidoukraynits? SHO Sho ? You say Ruska, that is, the Russian Sea? So chi no? SHO Sho ? Yours does not understand ours! Chi sho, chi how? Z tiernopel chi sho? Ha, s kryzhopelya ... Then reason ...
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          1. 0
            1 November 2021 21: 58
            Lousy klocharko, beggar in soul and beggar in mind, this is how your klikuha is translated. ... Go look for fleas from your lady serts ... (hearts in Russian!). Guidota Svidomo. Let's play with the crezhopels!
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              1. -1
                1 November 2021 22: 34


                Guessed?
                There he acted as a "zaslanets" of norms.
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              2. -5
                1 November 2021 22: 52
                Perez and replaced the AI.
                Ага.
                VPN, schmopien, we even know TOP ...
                Oh brother how ...
              3. -4
                1 November 2021 23: 03
                You are doomed on the site.
                Change everything.
  5. +3
    1 November 2021 16: 50
    Look through the scope? It is sporty and calms the nerves if the goal is sports and recreational shooting. But why should you look at the sight in vain? Wouldn't it be better to invite an American ship to visit our ports in Novorossiysk and Sevastopol? Why not. We are peaceful people, and the Black Sea is open for shipping. Of course, the Americans are afraid to even approach our shores. After all, bloody pirates have other intentions than making "courtesy visits." But it would be, as they say, the honor offered.
    1. +6
      1 November 2021 17: 31
      Quote: 1536
      Wouldn't it be better to invite an American ship to visit our ports in Novorossiysk and Sevastopol?

      What are you ?! They will not be allowed into the ports of Ukraine later, they cannot do this! laughing
  6. +5
    1 November 2021 16: 58
    In fact, they are in the sight of the Bosphorus itself, and binoculars are just by the way.
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  7. +3
    1 November 2021 17: 00
    Our Guarantor, it turns out, is a humorist ... belay and with a little sarcasm about the events in the Black Sea ... soldier
    1. -5
      1 November 2021 22: 38
      Quote: Joker62
      turns out to be a humorist ...

      Pedigree.
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    1. +4
      1 November 2021 17: 50
      There are no problems at all about the control center. Only he passed the Bosphorus and he is already in sight. Drying will not be enough, and the coastal missile system of the Ball type with the Kh-35 anti-ship missile (the 15th coastal missile and artillery brigade (Sevastopol) is quite suitable.
      1. +1
        1 November 2021 19: 35
        Vasily, what radars do you have to the Bosphorus that work on frigate-class targets, please explain the range to the ports: varna, konstanza, trebizond, batumi, odessa
        1. -1
          1 November 2021 20: 24
          RTK type "Bumblebee" AWACS A-50 with Dobn-400 km with the issuance of the control center at the command post of the duty forces will fit? Can be used with aer. Krymsk, Belbek with the withdrawal to the lines of duty in the air over the Black Sea.
          1. 0
            1 November 2021 21: 11
            Vasily, and a-50 out of ten fly straight, fly, but I don't believe their resource is already at the limit, we have a condom with Putin flying with storks
            1. 0
              1 November 2021 21: 29
              Daily duty orders for the A-50 are in terms of flights from the airport. Ivanovo. Like this.
        2. -1
          1 November 2021 20: 36
          I forgot, there are also different submarines scurrying back and forth ...
          1. -2
            1 November 2021 21: 12
            amer including
            1. 0
              1 November 2021 21: 26
              PL. can only enter the Bosphorus from the Mediterranean Sea when on the surface. If such are the case, perhaps diesel-electric will become known.
    2. +4
      1 November 2021 18: 28
      Quote: Clochard
      To aim with what? Dryers? Target designation who will issue?
      There is one more expert on VO ... wassat
  9. +2
    1 November 2021 17: 04
    You'd think they wouldn't watch
    1. +6
      1 November 2021 17: 09
      Quote: jeka424
      You'd think they wouldn't watch

      Let them look. Only for what? To the entire Black Sea region of the Russian Federation from one or two ships?
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      2. 0
        1 November 2021 17: 30
        all the same, it will complete its tasks. they have more ships all the same
    2. +2
      1 November 2021 17: 34
      Quote: jeka424
      You'd think they wouldn't watch

      Rzhu something ... Gor.heads remembered. laughing

      "I will be your eyes on earth!" (Sucks Faffenbach)
  10. -1
    1 November 2021 17: 16
    President Putin on the American ship in the Black Sea: "We can look at it not only through binoculars, but also through the scope"
    ... Words, words ... however, from looking through the sight and pressing the trigger / start button, the distance, although not great, is there.
    1. +3
      1 November 2021 17: 22
      however, from looking through the sight and pressing the trigger / start button, the distance, although not great, but it is.
      It’s not necessary yet.
      1. +1
        1 November 2021 17: 25
        Do not. It goes here and there, pleases all skakuasiks and so what?
        Routine.
  11. -11
    1 November 2021 17: 17
    How is it from a bunker in Moscow to look through the sight at a destroyer sailing in the Black Sea?
    1. +1
      1 November 2021 17: 24
      Quote: fiberboard
      How is it from a bunker in Moscow to look through the sight at a destroyer sailing in the Black Sea?

      Through the remote aiming system ...
    2. +9
      1 November 2021 17: 51
      Quote: fiberboard
      How is it from a bunker in Moscow to look through the sight at a destroyer sailing in the Black Sea?

      Sleep! laughing
      1. -2
        1 November 2021 18: 46
        Sleep! laughing
        "Killed"! wassat laughing
      2. -1
        1 November 2021 19: 26
        our president is at random))))
    3. +2
      1 November 2021 17: 52
      Our President is in Sochi, at the forefront, and I respect him for that.
      1. +5
        1 November 2021 18: 12
        Quote: tralflot1832
        Our President is in Sochi, at the forefront, and I respect him for that.

        1. -5
          1 November 2021 18: 17
          And I live normally with him, with our sovereign. Maybe it's a problem, you need to get your ass off the couch. I apologize in advance if you have health problems. It's bad everywhere with this.
    4. -3
      1 November 2021 20: 56
      Quote: fiberboard
      How is it from a bunker in Moscow to look through the sight at a destroyer sailing in the Black Sea?

      Shkolota writes about the bunker
  12. -5
    1 November 2021 17: 17
    Even Putin began to visit Sochi often.
    He doesn't want to say goodbye to a bog oak chair.
    1. 0
      1 November 2021 17: 23
      Quote: ximkim
      Even Putin began to visit Sochi often.

      The climate there is even more healthy for health.
      1. +2
        1 November 2021 17: 29
        Quote: svp67
        Quote: ximkim
        Even Putin began to visit Sochi often.

        The climate there is even more healthy for health.

        hi
        So let him go to sick leave. And then he coughs more than he speaks.
        1. -3
          1 November 2021 17: 30
          Quote: ximkim
          So let him go to sick leave. Otherwise he coughs more than he speaks

          So he is the most important over the doctors, who will order him ...
        2. -4
          1 November 2021 18: 20
          If he goes into quarantine for two weeks, you and the West will tear the PKKan. Retrieved 2015 16.
          1. -1
            1 November 2021 18: 43
            Quote: tralflot1832
            If he goes into quarantine for two weeks, you and the West will tear the PKKan. Retrieved 2015 16.

            And what is checked there?
            1. +1
              1 November 2021 19: 16
              Quote: ximkim
              And what is checked there?

              do not argue, Putin's Detachments have everything written down.
      2. -7
        1 November 2021 17: 53
        Especially where no one gets it.
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  13. 0
    1 November 2021 17: 23
    Opening the meeting, Vladimir Putin said that "today we can look at this ship not only through binoculars, but also through the sight of defensive systems."
    Here again, there is some kind of uncertainty ... maybe we can, but maybe we won't be able ... our ships are already more likely to appear in that Caribbean Sea ... with a return visit. I think that in the current world situation, the Cubans will be very happy about their arrival.
    1. -7
      1 November 2021 17: 54
      Do you think that the Black Sea Fleet is not on the ears?
    2. +1
      1 November 2021 19: 24
      Quote: svp67
      I think that in the current world situation, the Cubans will be very happy about their arrival.

      Why would Cubans be happy? Give at least one reason. Russia will return Western Union? Or will it start to pick up the Cuban economy? As far as I understand, the point is again in some mythical "bases". Do you think that Cuba is eager to become a bargaining chip in our squabble with the States?
  14. -15
    1 November 2021 17: 27
    On Dombas, Turkish drones are dusting equipment and people. All the chatter and concern, nothing new. Chewing gum for the herd.
    1. +10
      1 November 2021 17: 32
      Quote: Old Fuck
      On Dombas, Turkish drones are dusting equipment and people

      Well this is where this Dombas is located? And what kind of dust Turkish UAVs of people and equipment are grinding into, enlighten ...
      1. -8
        1 November 2021 19: 50
        Quote: svp67
        Well this is where this Dombas is located?

        Yes, patriots-sufferers please. Donbass to name Dombas - this is significant.
        1. -2
          2 November 2021 07: 11
          Quote: Ashes of Klaas
          Yes, patriots-sufferers please.

          And all the crybabies are crying all over the place?
    2. -2
      1 November 2021 17: 42
      The herd is chewing gum, and you must be waiting in the stall for slaughter.
    3. -10
      1 November 2021 18: 21
      Fuck, this is:
      Quote: Old Fuck
      On Dombas, Turkish drones are dusting equipment and people.

      and there is
      Quote: Old Fuck
      Chewing gum for the herd.

      Chew slowly. Because:
    4. -1
      1 November 2021 21: 12
      Oh, another piggy-dog. Get off !! (the last two words from "Heart of a Dog"
    5. 0
      2 November 2021 18: 38
      On Dombas, Turkish drones are dusting equipment and people.

      Liar and gossip
  15. +2
    1 November 2021 17: 31
    This is all lyrics, again shake a finger and that's it, soon they will put buoys on our borders and tell us not to swim for them, and also the land borders with missiles and military bases will arrange that there will be nowhere to spit, and we will continue to express our deep concern and shake your finger and say - "ah-yay, it's not good!"
    1. -10
      1 November 2021 18: 24
      Quote: Wartop
      soon buoys will be placed on our borders and they will tell us not to swim for them, and also the land borders will be equipped with missiles and military bases that there will be nowhere to spit

      I am ashamed to ask - do you often cross the land and sea borders of our country where and how you like? And how often there is a desire to spit in some neighboring state through the PCB? Or are you on behalf of migrants now?
  16. -5
    1 November 2021 17: 37
    Quote: svp67
    Quote: ximkim
    So let him go to sick leave. Otherwise he coughs more than he speaks

    So he is the most important over the doctors, who will order him ...

    Greed or illness will not order, but will do their job ..
  17. +4
    1 November 2021 17: 42
    "We can look at him not only through binoculars, but also through the scope"


    And those who are supposed to look incessantly ...
  18. -1
    1 November 2021 17: 46
    Again meetings and "clear" statements ...
    If we can’t do anything with the American ships that plow the expanses of the Black Sea, then I propose to "bomb Voronezh".
    Let them know!
    1. +2
      1 November 2021 18: 39
      Quote: Bez 310
      I suggest "bomb Voronezh"
      Yes, - "... the general studied him", it would be better if specialists of a more humane profile.
    2. 0
      2 November 2021 14: 30
      Quote: Bez 310
      If there is nothing we can do about the American ships that plow the Black Sea

      What can be done here? Also, the Americans cannot do anything about our nuclear submarines and the so-called "research" ships floating under their noses. And what do you suggest? Start drowning?)
  19. -9
    1 November 2021 17: 50
    In Cuba or Venezuela, it is necessary to create a full-fledged fleet and a city-forming base so that not the ships of the states in the Black Sea in the sight should accompany, but the United States itself in the sight on an ongoing basis.
    1. -1
      1 November 2021 18: 28
      Quote: Vdi73
      In Cuba or Veneusuela, it is necessary to create a full-fledged fleet and a city-forming base

      It started .... For a long time this blizzard was not. The basophrenia strain is tenacious. But "city-forming" is something new. The strain mutates, yeah ...
  20. -4
    1 November 2021 18: 00
    What kind of x .. jumping across the field? ..... Well, then you know. It is approximately in this context that the president's meeting with Shoigu and Gerasimov is taking place. The main thing is that if the chago did not work!
  21. +8
    1 November 2021 18: 16
    Now the situation is painfully old and I would say worn out - the potential enemy has found our pain points and is PLAYING WITH US. This is not the first call and not the first ship - this situation has already been repeated 100500 times. As well as our painful reaction to it. Moreover, it will be repeated. Moreover, everyone understands that we are bluffing, how regrettable it is, because everyone understands that the last thing we would like is the possible emergence of a conflict or casus beli in a gray zone, in some kind of border area, in neutral waters etc. Now the Americans are playing with us on our pain points, we believe that this is a kind of "probing" or "provocation" - but in fact it is a more subtle game, it is a game of "depreciation". In the devaluation of all these rumblings with iron on the part of our military and leadership. A ship sailed - swam, our pilots flew, the military rattled, Putin again said something there - the ship sailed away - sailed again. And again. For them, this is a common, one might say, routine podbeshivanie through the gray zone - for us, oooo, this is a whole event of an unrealistic scale. And we trumpet this as if the hand of the doomsday had moved a minute.
    This is the wrong reaction. But in general, we have only two reactions in this case, conditionally correct. First, we stop angrily trumpeting about every such entry-flight into the gray zone. We have borders - these are very specific territorial boundaries. If these borders are violated, this is recorded, and if not, then it is necessary to provide quite specific sections of the border (where these provocations take place - the World Cup, the Baltic Sea, etc.) with means of fixation, ideally in an internationally recognized format. And if the border has been violated, we collect documents and act through the UN, through the international court, through the diplomatic line. Solidly and officially, not exchanging for it as for some kind of garbage.
    The second - the second variation can exist separately, but it is best if it is carried out after the first. The ship or the plane crossed the border - the fixing means were fixed. We are prepared in advance for such an option and we shoot down this plane - we sink the ship. On our territory, OR with such a calculation that he fell-drowned on our territory. As an option, we are preparing a retaliatory provocation, by means of electronic warfare we replace the GPS of the enemy aircraft so that it is in our zone. Then we drown, we shoot down. And in this case, the situation looks like this - we notified international institutions about the problem, we fixed the problem - the incident happened. Casus beli is - but we have it, like the second Powers.

    However, here I will note that while all these actions are taking place outside our borders - aircraft-ships are flying over the "neutral". And therefore, all these pipes and rattling are nothing more than a bad, useless instrument of internal propaganda. Here it is worth remembering the story of the boy who shouted about wolves - now the hurray-dividends obtained in this way - devalue the mobilization of society in the event of a really serious situation.
    1. -5
      1 November 2021 19: 06
      Quote: Knell Wardenheart
      We have borders - these are very specific territorial boundaries.

      They are quite specific for us, but not for those who do not consider Crimea to be Russian.
      Quote: Knell Wardenheart
      where these provocations take place - World Cup, Baltic, etc.

      No need to talk about "Baltika, etc." We will talk about it when "BaltikaNash" happens, and NATO will feel "new borders" with its Polish troughs.
      Quote: Knell Wardenheart
      And if the border has been violated - we collect documents and act through the UN

      What the fuck is the UN if all of its members, with the exception of Afghanistan, Venezuela, Cuba, Nicaragua, Sirim, Sudan and North Korea, consider the Ukrainian peninsula?
      Quote: Knell Wardenheart
      And therefore, all these pipes and rattling are nothing more than a bad, worthless instrument of internal propaganda.
      Of course. Simply for the above reason - the whole world considers Crimea ... etc. It is not we who "do not shoot to kill" (well, with Defender, in general, a funny case), it is they who, excuse me, try our potency. And Putin has carte blanche for bluffing - let's look through the crosshair, break it, etc.
      1. +8
        1 November 2021 19: 56
        What the fuck is the UN if all of its members, with the exception of Afghanistan, Venezuela, Cuba, Nicaragua, Sirim, Sudan and North Korea, consider the Ukrainian peninsula?

        Here is your answer - from the point of view of the international community and internationally recognized borders, nothing criminal is happening. Now we are bluffing threatening with "some kind of retaliation" in the gray zone. But this is a gray zone, and our "retaliatory actions" in this zone from the point of view of the international community (with the exception of the countries you listed) will be the use of weapons by the Russian Federation on the territory of neutral waters or even within the maritime borders of a neighboring state.
        That is - in general, then, in fact = aggression. So it's pretty obvious that we have a weak position here - despite the serious faces and the clatter of weapons. And the potential enemy hits this weak position - and will continue to do so. What can we counter this? I mean objectively, isn't this our favorite "besieged fortress" move? How can we prevent this?
        Only by using international diplomacy - and only after it should force follow. And so far, international diplomacy is in a deep enclosure, so I don’t understand why we are being led to these provocations at all? It gives us nothing. The United States knows very well that we do not want to start either a third world conflict or a local conflict. For whom, then, is this rattling? For our own - for you and me. So that we read how our valiant fleet and air force drives out someone there in disgrace, so that we are filled with pride - and the problem itself, the end and edge of which has continued to decay and further.
        1. -3
          1 November 2021 20: 19
          Quote: Knell Wardenheart
          Only by using international diplomacy - and only after it should force follow.

          International diplomacy, as you have deigned to say, considers #crymnash an annexation. Point. How long it will last is not known. So, maybe, following your logic, go straight to the second point - to strength, no? Putin, apparently, is waiting for a consensus on the Crimea, proceeding from something like "expiration of the statute of limitations" or "endure and fall in love", so no sudden movements (which are very desirable for the local passionaries) towards eventual villains of all stripes and flags should not be expected ... They will again "shoot / fly on the course", "turn off their electronics", "dropped warning bombs" and so on, not confirmed by the opposing side exposed by cowardly terpily. NATO will troll, we will give heroic releases about escaping destroyers on TK Zvezda and NTV, here you are absolutely right. But that's all for now.
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          2. 0
            2 November 2021 05: 23
            from 30 to 50 years old. or one or two generations.
  22. +1
    1 November 2021 20: 20
    President Putin on the American ship in the Black Sea: "We can look at it not only through binoculars, but also through the scope"
    Look, no one minds. request
  23. -2
    1 November 2021 21: 33
    Why don't we have allies in the Gulf of Mexico? Can we send our destroyer there?
    1. +1
      2 November 2021 02: 48
      Do we have a suitable destroyer?
  24. 0
    1 November 2021 21: 45
    Quote: OrangeBigg
    Which missile or torpedo is preferable?

    A yacht of some olinarch.
    And then also roll out the bill, they say, "why did you ram the boat of a respected person resting near his native shores?"
  25. 0
    1 November 2021 22: 14
    "We can look at him not only through binoculars, but also through the scope"

    On that - truncated ...
  26. 0
    1 November 2021 23: 47
    It's best like this))
  27. 0
    2 November 2021 01: 45
    Yeah, he will look through the sight, how, right now, they will be intimidated that the accounts of his friends in Western countries will freeze, he will immediately change his mind ... Although he has, as always, chatter and only
  28. -1
    2 November 2021 01: 49
    Let this yacht be drowned
    1. +2
      2 November 2021 05: 27
      the oligarchs' yachts are truly impressive. saw once on sant martin. this is a real fleet, ample enough to land on an island in the Caribbean. however sant martin is essentially bought up)
    2. -3
      2 November 2021 19: 46
      Quote: Codett
      Let this yacht be drowned

      ===
      In fairness, post a photo of the palace / center of rhythmic gymnastics, built with the money of Usmanov
  29. +1
    2 November 2021 02: 16
    Except to see ..., the Guarantor talks a lot and looks a lot and has been doing this for over 20 years ...
  30. +3
    2 November 2021 10: 22
    These are all just words.
    Business will be when our BODs regularly visit the Gulf of Mexico. And so all this is just blah-blah-blah ...
    Menacing words and puffing of cheeks from "partners" cause only a smile.
    Can not? Well, it's better to keep silent altogether, we'll look smarter.
  31. +1
    2 November 2021 13: 20
    You can look at the American ships as you like But to survive, so that there is not a single ally on the Black Sea, it is worth a lot, however, as well as in the Baltic And there is no need for songs, about two allies of Russia We know But touch that you won't be locked up anywhere with water It's a shame
  32. 0
    2 November 2021 13: 56
    And here it is interesting, did you learn a lesson from the passage of the Britons near the Crimea? Does the Russian Navy have a plan A and a plan B, if the Yankos will also trample on the Crimea?
  33. +1
    2 November 2021 20: 19
    Quote: Victorio
    Quote: Codett
    Let this yacht be drowned

    ===
    In fairness, post a photo of the palace / center of rhythmic gymnastics, built with the money of Usmanov

    In Uzbekistan?
  34. 0
    3 November 2021 10: 58
    Quote: svp67
    Here again, there is some kind of uncertainty ... maybe we can, but maybe we won't be able ... our ships are already more likely to appear in that Caribbean Sea ... with a return visit. I think that in the current world situation, the Cubans will be very happy about their arrival.

    Since when is the Black Sea exclusively "ours" ??? Besides Russia, there are no other states with Black Sea ports? Curb your imperial ambitions, Palpatine the roommate! For the same Turkey, the length of the Black Sea coast will be longer, but they do not shout from each iron "ChernomorNash" ...