Azerbaijani MiG-29 fighters to hit enemy aircraft with Israeli missiles

The Azerbaijani Air Force MiG-29 fighters received Israeli air-to-air missiles. According to Telegram-channel Azerbaijani Armed Forces, Baku purchased aviation I-Derby ER rockets.

The publication does not provide details of the deal, but it is reported that the missiles have already entered service with the Azerbaijani Air Force for use by MiG-29 fighters. The number of missiles delivered was also not disclosed. It is noted that the I-Derby ER missiles are a deep modernization of the Derby family of missiles produced by the Israeli defense company Rafael.

The I-Derby ER missile is a medium-range missile capable of striking targets up to 100 km away. The mass of the rocket is 118 kg, of which 23 are in the warhead. The guidance system is combined and includes a command-inertial system in the middle section and a radar homing head on the final one. Non-contact laser fuse.

The missile carriers are F-16C / D, F-5, Mirage, JAS-39 Gripen, as well as Soviet MiG-21 and MiG-29 with the reservation "at the request of the customer." The Azerbaijani Air Force is armed with up to 10 MiG-29 fighters purchased from Belarus and Ukraine. Now Azerbaijani MiG-29 fighters will hit enemy aircraft with Israeli missiles.

By the way, in 2019, the Indian Air Force intended to abandon the Russian R-77 air-to-air missile (RVV-AE) in favor of the Israeli I-Derby ER. The purchases were planned for 2021-2022. So far, there has been no official information about this.

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[Ros 56]

And what are our missiles worse ???

[Zaurbek]

lagged behind, like .... Meteor and PL-15 are also ahead

[Orange bigg]

Quote: Zaurbek

lagged behind, like .... Meteor and PL-15 are also ahead

Why are they lagging behind, how is the R-77-1 worse than the I-Derby ER?

The I-Derby ER missile is a medium-range missile capable of engaging targets at a distance of up to 100 km. The mass of the rocket is 118 kg, of which 23 are in the warhead. The guidance system is combined and includes a command-inertial system in the middle section and a radar homing head in the final section. Non-contact laser fuse.

The R-77-1 missile, also known under the export name RVV-SD, is intended for medium-range air battles, when opponents cannot even see each other. With its help, you can destroy a target at a distance of up to 110 km. It is suitable for destroying aircraft, helicopters and cruise missiles, including those made using stealth technologies.

... Active radar homing heads for R-77 missiles of all modifications (R-77, RVV-AE, R-77-1) were developed and manufactured by the Agat Research Institute (Moscow) from the very beginning. The R-77-1 rocket (product 170-1), as a further development of the R-77, has been developed by the Vympel GosMKB (now part of the Tactical Missile Armament Corporation - KTRV) since the 1990s, the stage of State joint missile tests was formally opened in 2006, although trials were actually started only at the end of 2010. Serial production of the R-77-1 was launched by KTRV in 2013.

https://bmpd.livejournal.com/4122588.html

The analogue of Meteor and PL-15 is Product 180.

[Zaurbek]

They write that the competitors have a ramjet engine, and the R-77 and the rest of the Russians have a solid-fuel RD. hence, different acceleration characteristics in different parts of the flight. and range

[Orange bigg]

Only Meteor of all the missiles you listed has a ramjet. I-Derby ER pictured.

... Derby missiles are not in service with the Israeli Air Force (despite occasional reports on this topic), but are widely exported (see below). The Israeli Air Force prefers to buy AMRAAM ("Ashuah") on account of American military aid: AIM-120B (since 1998) and AIM-120C (since about 2003). Firing range AMRAAM (Israel versions): 75 km for the AIM-120B, 105 km for the AIM-120C-5 and 120 km for the AIM-120C-7.

In 2015, an upgraded version of I-Derby (Improved Derby) was demonstrated at Aero India 2015 (Bangalore, India), and in the same year I-Derby ER (Extended Range) was presented at the Le Bourget air show. And 2 days ago, 02.04.19/XNUMX/XNUMX, the site ynet reported that during the last year the development of I-Derby ER, the rocket is fully operational.

"Derby" is built according to the "duck" scheme, i.e. steering surfaces (4) at the front, small stabilizers (4) at the rear. The radar and electronics of the guidance system are in the front of the rocket, the warhead is in the middle, the engine is in the back. Single-pulse solid rocket motor.

https://grimnir74.livejournal.com/11498623.html

Oleg Granovsky describes this weapon as follows:
The I-Derby ER uses a new dual-pulse solid rocket motor. The first activation of the engine accelerates the rocket at launch, the second occurs near the target. In addition, in this version, the fuse is built into the guidance system, which made it possible to reduce the size of the electronics unit and increase the length of the engine without changing the dimensions of the rocket and without increasing the weight (or even with some weight reduction). There is a data link to the rocket for reorienting the rocket after launch. Used so-called. Rafael Global Link, but it is also possible to integrate systems offered by customers. By the way, I-Derby ER can be used in the SPYDER air defense system, both in the short-range Spyder-SR version and in the medium Spyder-MR, using the existing TPK version of the Spyder-SR [

http://cyclowiki.org/wiki/I-Derby_ER

[Zaurbek]

PL -15 Chinese also with pvd

[Orange bigg]

Quote: Zaurbek

PL -15 Chinese also with pvd

Not like a ramjet.

However, China has also developed the PL-15 missile, which reportedly has the same - or even greater - range as the newest American AIM-120D missile, designed to engage targets out of sight. The PL-15 rocket also has a two-pulse engine that allows it to switch to a second, more lethal speed when approaching a target.

https://diana-mihailova.livejournal.com/5726903.html

[Zaurbek]

at the second, more lethal speed when approaching the target. What does it mean?

[Orange bigg]

Indicates a dual-pulse solid rocket motor. The first activation of the engine accelerates the rocket at launch, the second occurs near the target, but this is not a ramjet engine.

K-77ME aka Product 180 PD ramjet rocket, which is how they all look.

[I am not a robot]

derby and amraam do not have pvd

[Fitter65]

Quote: Ros 56

And what are our missiles worse ???

Not kosher ..

[And Us Rat]

Quote: Ros 56

And what are our missiles worse ???

Elemental base, microelectronics, to be precise.
With all that it implies - the speed and volume of information processing, the number and speed of algorithms, resolution, noise immunity and sensitivity of the transmitting and receiving components.

[Maz]

Israeli high-tech weapons in the post-Soviet space provoke military conflicts, wars and, in the end, we have the destruction of civilians, devastation where there are hostilities, refugees, orphans and disabled people. So it was in Georgia-Ossetia, Armenia-Azeibarjan, Ukraine-Donbass, I think I have not listed everything yet. It gives the false belief that a country with such weapons is militarily stronger and can arrogate to itself the right to resolve disputed issues on its own, regardless of the opinion of its neighbor or ignoring it in its favor as it pleases .. A somewhat disgusting smell from such a state of affairs and the attitude of the Jewish masters to other national entities and their aspirations. Money doesn't smell. And modern weapons are more expensive than any kind of goods, peaceful goods. Antirespect to this type of activity of the Jewish state.

[Zaurbek]

It does not provoke anything, with the same success, it can be Chinese or French ... and it is not necessary to coordinate its use with the Russian Federation or the United States.

[surf dude]

Exactly, just yesterday there was an article about Turkish bairaktar drones, it all depends on which side they are used from.

[Zaurbek]

Yes, with any .... they and the Russian Federation were offered to sell at one time. the question is only in the restrictions on equipment from the United States, but it can be changed to something else.

[A. Privalov]

Quote: Maz

we have the destruction of civilians, devastation where there are hostilities, refugees, orphans and disabled people.

It's time for you, dear MAZ, in protest against the "crimes of the Israeli military" (c) to give up a quite tangible monetary allowance for life, money for rent and other preferences.
Do not Zionist silver coins burn the hands of such a defender of refugees, orphans and invalids? After all, you are fattening at the expense of those very Jewish taxpayers. Or money doesn't smell?

[aslan balaev]

Oh, these Israeli explosive rockets, so many civilians shot down these barbaric weapons!

[tralflot1832]

Probably it is necessary first to put the Israeli avionics on the MiG 29, so that then kosher bullet with rackets?

[Aaron Zawi]

Quote: tralflot1832

Probably it is necessary first to put the Israeli avionics on the MiG 29, so that then kosher bullet with rackets?

Well, some changes in the avionics must of course be made.

[tralflot1832]

Who made the changes or is going to make the avionics, and the missiles, only then carry out as a guarantee for all other UAC equipment?

[Zaurbek]

You can put AFAR and change the avionics ..... the question is about money

[Shahno]

The platform is dubious ... You can, of course. I hope the customer will achieve his goals.

[Yujanin]

This is how Azerbaijani MiG-2019 fighters appeared at LGARZ in 29. Perhaps at the Lviv aircraft repair plant they were brought to the modification of the MiG-29MU2.
By the way, the Azerbaijani Mi-24G Super Hind was also upgraded there. Do you understand what I'm talking about)

https://uc.od.ua/columns/1533/1214385

[Cowbra]

Such a Turkish-Israeli coalition is amusing))) She is before the first kipesh

[Zaurbek]

They have been modernizing the Soviet legacy for a long time ... and quite successfully.

[askort154]

cowbra... Such a Turkish-Israeli coalition amuses))) It’s until the first kipesh

This "coalition" is the surface part. Underwater - Anglo-Saxons with Israel against Iran. It is not for nothing that Turkey and Israel have settled in Azeybarjan, this will be the main staging area for an air strike on Iran from the north, and an aircraft carrier from the south. Israel sleeps and sees how to deal with Iran. Azeybarjan has already agreed to use his airfields. Israel holds large training camps and exercises for reservists. Possibly flare up immediately
two bonfires to blur the world's attention. One in Donbass, the second in Iran. I would not be surprised if Israel uses low-yield nuclear bombs. The world is already trained not to condemn Israel.

[Cowbra]

Quote: askort154

This "coalition" is the surface part.

Then Turkey will have to immediately say hello to the idea of ​​pan-Turkism and the desire to become the ruler of the sea in the Muslim world. Azerbaijan is already half a step away from joining Turkey - they owe a lot of money after Karabakh. Yes, there is a parade with Turkish flags is understandable. And then bam! We help Jews - to gouge any, but still Muslims))) What kind of Pan-Turkism do you want? What is the impact on the neighbors? Yes, Erdogan, the Islamists led by him, will not be lifted by forks, they will be lifted by forks

[andreykolesov123]

Quote: Cowbra

We help Jews - to gouge any, but still Muslims))) What kind of Pan-Turkism do you want? What is the impact on the neighbors? Yes, Erdogan, the Islamists led by him, will not be lifted by forks, they will be lifted by forks

Egypt, together with Israel, is putting pressure on the Islamists in Sinai and in Gaza, and no one is opposed to Israel and will not utter a word.

[andreykolesov123]

Quote: askort154

One in Donbass

Who needs it, your Donbass, Israel does not care about your disputes with Ukraine and grind it.

[aslan balaev]

This is when Baku gave (or did not) consent to Israel to bombard Iran from Azerbaijani territory? Or is this your suggestion? I am very interested in this question.

[Andrey Moskvin]

Everything is fine. A good product has a buyer. Who, apart from Russia in the world, makes do with purely their own? No one. And we are mainly on Asian electronics.

[Jacket in stock]

The Indian Air Force intended to abandon the Russian R-77 air-to-air missile (RVV-AE) in favor of the Israeli I-Derby ER

Did the Indians end up buying rockets in the Kuevo?

[Orange bigg]

By the way, in 2019, the Indian Air Force intended to abandon the Russian R-77 air-to-air missile (RVV-AE) in favor of the Israeli I-Derby ER. The purchases were planned for 2021-2022. So far, there has been no official information about this.

Indian dances are sometimes intended and sometimes unintended.

[askort154]

Cowbra Erdogan, the Islamists led by him will not be lifted by forks, they will be lifted by forks ...

Iran are Shiites and Turks are Sunnis. They have their own religious hacks.

[Oleg Olkha]

https://www.airforce-technology.com/projects/i-derby-er-air-to-air-missile/ "Индия провела испытания ракеты I-Derby ER с легкого боевого самолета Tejas (LCA) в Гоа в апреле 2021 года, что ознаменовало улучшение возможностей Tejas LCA за пределами видимости. Индия закупила у Израиля ракеты I-Derby ER в 2020 году в ускоренном режиме во время индийско-китайского противостояния в долине Галван. Ожидается, что парк Су-30МКИ ВВС Индии будет вооружен ракетами I-Derby ER к 2022 году... использующая канал передачи данных на основе Rafael Global Link или канала передачи данных заказчика..." Максимальная скорость 4 М, двигатель dual-pulse, возможна атака с изменением курса на 180 градусов.

[Aliyev Ilham]

Attention, Moders, or those who publish such news - No Derby rocket has been purchased by our country, and at the moment there are not even plans!
The VK and Telegram channel Azerbaijan Armed Forces is not bad, but there is one specific rural administrator who is very fond of fantasizing and deceiving exactly about the supposedly new acquired weapons by our country!
Recently, he posts that Arrow 3 was allegedly delivered to us (this high-altitude interceptor may not have been finally adopted even by Israel itself, it is being developed by Israel together with Boeing), but we definitely did not receive this! Also, this admin of the public about the UAV Mini Harpy fantasized the same thing, like, according to his secret data, they were already delivered to Azerbaijan!
And now, having learned about such a new rocket as İ-Derby ER, he immediately made a post, allegedly Azerbaijan bought them, and they are already in Azerbaijan.
I recommend that the administration stop publishing news from anywhere.
As for Derby missiles from us (Azerbaijan), I can give a head for dissection, nothing of the kind was delivered to us, even the purchase of these missiles is not on the agenda now, and we have not even had any interest in these missiles!

Ours will soon purchase new fighters (the Air Force commander said that soon the public will probably notify about this deal) only then can we think about new missiles for them, and it may well be Israeli or other modern air-to-air missiles.
I repeat, about these Derby missiles - nowhere in the entire projection of the Internet, there is not a word about their purchase by Azerbaijan. These are the fantasies of a particular public admin. This is 1000%. (Our MIG-29s even have old radars, everything in them is old Ukrainian, the most modern in them are French MSA helmets and BKO mascot, and that's all.)
As for our weapons, please publish only after the official announcement. And Derby ER is a figment of the fantasy of a particular amateur.
Sorry for the emotions, thank you for your understanding.

[DED_peer_DED]

Just an Ammunition Specialist.
And so in everything.

[Yujanin]

Straight like Petrosyan

[avk80]

Quote: tralflot1832

Probably it is necessary first to put the Israeli avionics on the MiG 29, so that then kosher bullet with rackets?

It is curious that the most logical and correct comment immediately went into the negative. By itself, it says a lot about the level of discussion on the resource.