In Ukraine, they showed an RPG adapted for firing mortar mines and their "fragments"

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Photo published in the Ukrainian segment of social networks weaponsattracting a certain amount of attention to itself. In the photo you can see the mounted "easel" paired version of grenade launchers with ammunition, which are not used when firing from conventional grenade launchers.

We are talking about another "invention" of Ukrainian "innovators" from military-technical thought, who decided to expand the list of ammunition used for RPGs up to mortar mines.



Special "adapters" are made in the mines, which allow them to be installed on a hand-held anti-tank grenade launcher.

At the same time, the "developers" point out that such weapons can also shoot with "fragments of mortar mines":

The main thing is that the plumage remains on the fragment.



In the comments to the "original weapon" shown in the photo, the Ukrainians themselves gave out a fair amount of irony, saying that the head of the Ministry of Defense had to go all the way in the "PR" of this "mortar launcher" and demonstrate it during one of the military parades - for example, during the parade in honor of the Independence Day of Ukraine or the Defender of the Fatherland Day (recall that in Ukraine this day was postponed from February 23 to October 14).

The position of the grenade launchers, including the angle, is changed using the devices of the weapon rack, on which they are installed. It is not reported whether a "volley" is envisaged.
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  1. +6
    18 October 2021 06: 43
    There are no words ... that there are not enough grenade launchers on the machine ... they would have made a six-barreled mortar like the Germans ... that would be strength.
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    2. +5
      18 October 2021 06: 49
      Quote: Lech from Android.
      There are no words ... that there are not enough grenade launchers on the machine ... they would have made a six-barreled mortar like the Germans ... that would be strength.

      ***
      You can't get enough of such a "fragments" grenade launcher ...
      ***
      1. +7
        18 October 2021 06: 54
        Fragments of mortar grenade launchers from the walls of the trench will torture you to scrape ... they were not up to their hammer there ... now they have invented a new toy. what
        1. +1
          18 October 2021 12: 50
          Quote: Lech from Android.
          now a new toy has been invented

          Mortar Hammer and Rake grenade launcher, che
      2. +4
        18 October 2021 07: 01
        Quote: Vladimir Vladimirovich Vorontsov
        You can't get enough of such a "fragments" grenade launcher ...

        I don’t understand, but what is the point of shooting fragments of mines, there is no warhead with explosives, only the shank flies, in which the powder charge immediately burns out, in fact a piece of iron flies somersault, since there is no warhead and is not balanced. What's the point? some Ukrainian weapon "genius" invented the Wunderwaffe, well, everything will be peramoga smile
        1. +2
          18 October 2021 07: 04
          The meaning, as always, is in the hope that someone will give money for this wonderful weapon.
        2. +9
          18 October 2021 07: 40
          "I did not understand, but what is the point of shooting with fragments of mines, there is no warhead with explosives, only the shank flies, in which the powder charge immediately burns out, in fact a piece of iron flies"

          You really didn't get it. The whole mine is flying, the author simply indicated that the shank cannot be removed, the plumage must be mandatory. They have been using such "twists" for a long time and everywhere, they are more effective than carrots, and they probably do not have enough fragmentation and thermal bars, just like we do. We do this too, but this is the first time I see the machine version. The idea is interesting if there is a device for remote start. In principle, it is not difficult to make it, and then you can shoot even from a cesspool, without thinking about the gas jet.
          1. +1
            18 October 2021 08: 06
            Quote: URAL72
            You really didn't get it. The whole mine is flying, the author simply indicated that the shank cannot be removed, the plumage must be mandatory. They have been using such "twists" for a long time and everywhere, they are more effective than carrots, and they probably do not have enough fragmentation and thermal bars, just like we do. We do this too, but this is the first time I see the machine version. The idea is interesting if there is a device for remote start. In principle, it is not difficult to make it, and then you can shoot even from a cesspool, without thinking about the gas jet.

            Yes, there were videos already 5 years ago ...
            https://youtu.be/F52YDcXNlDo
            It's just not clear how to get in. Maybe someone has experience and will tell you what such a "thing" is capable of?
            1. +6
              18 October 2021 09: 04
              The shot is made from the usual "eighty". The effect is the same, only the range is shorter. But RPGs are in every platoon, and mortars may not be where they are needed. Mortar men need an order, but with an RPG you can shoot with a simple fright - at night a hedgehog can be mistaken for a DRG ...
          2. 0
            18 October 2021 09: 15
            And what about aiming ... we measure everything by eye?
            1. +5
              18 October 2021 09: 35
              Yes, everything is by eye. On an area target from 300-500 meters is quite. I have one position on the waste heap, where they are densely seeded.
              1. 0
                19 October 2021 05: 11
                Not quite clear.
                To launch this torpedo, you need a jet engine from a standard grenade.
                What is the point in such a modification?
                Although, on the other hand, if there are full of mines and full of anti-tank grenades, and there are no armored targets, then such use is justified.
                I read that even in Afghanistan, spirits tied explosives to an RPG grenade, the explosion of the grenade itself served as the initiation of an explosion of explosives. Accuracy decreased, but power increased.
                Recently there was a report from the DPR on the Arms TV channel.
                The militia came up with the use of a 23 mm projectile as a grenade from a homemade grenade launcher for an AK. In principle, an ordinary tube of 23 mm in size, a projectile is inserted there, of course, without a sleeve, a shot with a blank cartridge.
                In the PMR, during the battles with the Romanians, the militia came up with a weapon grenade launcher for firing hand grenades. On the barrel, the tube is the size of RG-42 ,. To describe for a long time, but I could not find a photo. A bracket is welded to the pipe of the grenade launcher where the lever from the fuse is inserted. I inserted a grenade, pulled out the fuse and also fired a blank cartridge. From the stories of the participants, it was a great help in street battles. When you can't get close to the house, and with such a device, you can easily throw a grenade through the window on any floor.
        3. 0
          18 October 2021 21: 22
          Quote: Anatol Klim
          did not understand, but what is the point of shooting mine fragments,

          I do not exclude the fact that the "fragment" means the shank of a mine with a tail without the mine itself, but with an explosive filling ... that is, it "imitates" a 40-mm fragmentation "cucumber" (RPG-7) ... In addition, the possibility of attaching any suitable IED to the mine shank is not excluded! ... (yes even "condensed milk cans" stuffed with explosives and nuts!)
      3. -1
        18 October 2021 07: 51
        And there are no fighting pigs capable of attacking Donetsk yet? ..
    3. +7
      18 October 2021 06: 50

      I wonder if a melting mine will do? Well, or at least a fragment from her? !!
      1. +6
        18 October 2021 06: 54
        Will do! Only plumage forward!
    4. +4
      18 October 2021 07: 24
      We are talking about another "invention" of Ukrainian "rationalizers" from military-technical thought,

      It can be seen with the naked eye that all modern Ukrainian "inventions of innovators" can only be assessed by "specialists" from the neighboring Bandera forest caches, after a liter of vodka drunk. winked
    5. 0
      18 October 2021 11: 30
      These guys still declared war on themselves ..... a natural result wassat
    6. 0
      19 October 2021 06: 27
      Well, why did you suggest? No. SchA, after all, they will wassat
    7. 0
      19 October 2021 12: 02
      mortar mines and their "fragments"
      Like "Hammer", with the same fragments?
      That is, it will not fly anywhere, but is fragmented on the spot? Wow shot!
      But a terrible weapon will turn out - even their own will be afraid to shoot from it ...
  2. 0
    18 October 2021 06: 46
    At the same time, the "developers" point out that such weapons can also shoot with "fragments of mortar mines":

    And if he can shoot fragments of a pork carcass, it will be called Pig Launcher! wassat
  3. +6
    18 October 2021 06: 50
    And if he can shoot fragments of a pork carcass, it will be called Pig Launcher!

    Israel will buy such weapons at once, it will terrify the Arabs.
    1. +1
      18 October 2021 07: 09
      VERY LATE news. Those who follow the actions in the Donbass (and they say in the Middle East) have been using RPG ammunition converted for mortar mines for a long time (for several years, for sure). The striking effect is many times stronger.
  4. +3
    18 October 2021 06: 52
    Looks like it's not so scary as to shoot from the "hammer".
    1. +4
      18 October 2021 07: 28
      Quote: spech
      Looks like it's not so scary as to shoot from the "hammer".

      Who knows request maybe the "Hammer" after the use of this RPG will be a "white stripe" in the statistics of personnel losses.
  5. +2
    18 October 2021 06: 59
    Does this wunderwafe have a name?
    The "hammer" is already there, I suggest the "hammer", I hope it will work as well.
    wassat
  6. +5
    18 October 2021 07: 12
    I don't see the blue electrical tape in the photo. Or is she in the ZIP?
    1. +2
      18 October 2021 07: 19
      but no, everything is glued together with snot. tongue
    2. +3
      18 October 2021 07: 33
      Quote: Kerensky
      I don't see the blue electrical tape in the photo. Or is she in the ZIP?

      They save the blue tape for the decoration of gift wrapping for these RPGs laughing
  7. +1
    18 October 2021 07: 38
    and that the mortars have already ended, since they began to mold such a freak?
  8. 0
    18 October 2021 07: 39
    we remember the device of a mortar - an important shuka pipe (barrel), in which a pressure area is formed, capable of throwing a mine in the direction where the barrel is looking. This is not the case. They generally tried to shoot from it? Where is the video? laughing
    1. +1
      18 October 2021 08: 32
      nikolay sayenko ...Did they even try to shoot from it? Where is the video?

      They tried and filmed, but the cameramen did not survive. hi
  9. +1
    18 October 2021 08: 03
    And how is it better than a conventional mortar?
    The weight is about the same, probably it's just more dangerous to shoot from the "Hammer"?
    Oh yes! The bp nomenclature is expanding!
    1. 0
      19 October 2021 09: 00
      Probably, the opportunity to meet a mine is relatively flat. Another question is, is it necessary at all?
  10. +3
    18 October 2021 08: 08
    So the militias were the first to come up with and did it.
    1. 0
      18 October 2021 09: 29
      We didn’t come up with anything. Such links were used in Chechnya, and they say also in Afghanistan.
    2. +1
      18 October 2021 21: 51
      Quote: riwas
      So the militias were the first to come up with and did it.

      The answer is controversial! On the Internet there were "postscripts" of such "know-how". Both the militias and the APU! Having analyzed all the messages, I am inclined to believe that the APU was "the first to start"! By the way, in the Armed Forces of Ukraine, in addition to 82-mm mines, sometimes they use 73-mm grenades for SPG-9 for firing from RPG-7 ... projectile ... For a 23-mm mortar "invented" ,, goosebriaku ,,: (shank from a 60-mm mine + self-made "glass" + F-60 grenade); as well as a "mortar" device for throwing high-explosive PT-mines of the TM-1 type, for example ...
      The same "zakovyka" and according to who "first" began to "modernize" anti-tank rifles PTR (D) and PTR (S)! APU or militia? (I mean "additives" to the MTR of optical sights (even thermal imaging ...) and more effective (multi-chamber) muzzle brakes ...
  11. -1
    18 October 2021 08: 32
    Yes, here only fragments will remain from the mime-gunner ...
  12. -1
    18 October 2021 10: 34
    Interestingly, this is from hopelessness or Ukrainian "homemade products" show what they are capable of? But this "mortar grenade launcher" can be safely called the "newest weapon" of modern Ukraine, although the RPG-7 is from the Soviet past, so there is a discrepancy.
    1. -1
      18 October 2021 10: 39
      Shh! All Svidomo-Sumerian. Everything was sawn and painted with the correct paint. No way to troll the Sumerians, otherwise they will begin neurosis.
  13. +1
    18 October 2021 10: 44
    I saw how the NM LDNR shoots in a similar way, only in my opinion there is no sense from this, due to the fact that the range is small and there is no accuracy.
  14. +2
    18 October 2021 12: 13
    Well, I don’t know, I am personally alarmed by such news. This is no longer a piece of shit and sticks, it is already something cobbled together using metal processing machines, with the possibility of mass production of converted ammunition. Again, stealth before use and the ability to fire a shot remotely are available. They adapt and do it more consciously and consciously, it is still good that they use modest opportunities, but this does not diminish the fact that the desire to kill is not replaced by apathy.
    1. 0
      18 October 2021 12: 55
      And you thought they were running around there with sawn-off shotguns, their weapons depots, the largest in the Western direction, have not yet been sold, but about the craft, these are your fantasies, this is really only partisanism and in army operations this is all garbage that tears off their heads
  15. -1
    18 October 2021 12: 50
    Somalia land ... time will come to water pipes instead of NARs.
  16. 0
    18 October 2021 12: 53
    I am interested in the range of this Wunderwafe ... So it may well be within the radius of the spread of this 82-mm mine ...
  17. -1
    18 October 2021 13: 09
    Damn, I go nuts with the Sumerians, how the once powerful military-industrial complex of the Ukrainian SSR degraded, really taking out the brain why 2 RPGs, although why not 3 or 10, they don't eat there at all, or smoke something
  18. 0
    18 October 2021 13: 10
    Musicians in this way hollowed out spirits in Syria
  19. 0
    18 October 2021 14: 04
    Another attempt to arm themselves based on the fact that "sho still remains", there were already super shushpanzers based on 64 tons of 72 cars, "Malyuk super-automatic" from stocks from repair depots, now the remains of unsold hand weapons were used. Interestingly, will the commander's mortar at the Makar base appear soon?
    On the way with the creation of their own mortar does not work, "Hammers" thresh the crews more readily than the enemy, now switched to caliber 82, the next step will be to return to catapults and trebuchets for throwing mines into the enemy's trenches ...
    Impressive successes ...
    1. 0
      19 October 2021 08: 58
      It is not entirely clear what is actually not fired from 82-mm mortars.
  20. -1
    18 October 2021 16: 26
    It would be better to demonstrate hitting the target with this miracle weapon.
    1. 0
      18 October 2021 17: 53
      If you hit the next house where the enemy is - why not hit?
      If an ordinary shot has a boom-shaped jet (the house will burn at the most) and a directed explosion that formed the jet (not very powerful), then there is an explosion with fragments.
      1. -1
        19 October 2021 10: 43
        Quote: Hitriy Zhuk
        If you hit the next house where the enemy is - why not hit?
        If an ordinary shot has a boom-shaped jet (the house will burn at the most) and a directed explosion that formed the jet (not very powerful), then there is an explosion with fragments.

        Have you ever felt the power of an RPG shot? Write nonsense
  21. 0
    19 October 2021 01: 22
    How many chubaty have already flown to meet with the Almighty?
  22. 0
    19 October 2021 07: 25
    Are they out of poverty or are they joking?
  23. +1
    19 October 2021 07: 49
    They also have MLRS on this base ...)))

  24. -1
    19 October 2021 08: 56
    Well, actually, the very possibility of shooting a mine from a grenade launcher is interesting.

    But that's just not from RPG-7. It is necessary to shoot a mine upwards, and it is difficult to do it from a recoilless system.
  25. 0
    19 October 2021 11: 46
    At the same time, the "developers" point out that such weapons can also shoot with "fragments of mortar mines":

    The main thing is that the plumage remains on the fragment.


    In principle, you can still shoot corn, the main thing here is that the leaves remain on the cob, this is fundamentally important for stabilizing the flight! And if they hit the separators, corn fields will start to sprout in their helmets .... This is also the Munchausen ram proved when shooting at deer with cherry pits!
  26. 0
    19 October 2021 18: 00
    Something these products are more and more similar to the shrub products of the barmaley.
    And what does "and their fragments" mean?
  27. 0
    19 October 2021 22: 13
    We are waiting for the continuation of research, such as
    slingshot