Kazakhstan is ready to adopt a new multipurpose armored vehicle "Barys 8x8"

The Kazakhstani Defense Ministry is ready to adopt the Barys 8x8 multipurpose armored vehicle, state tests of the equipment have been completed. This was reported on the website of the State Defense Order Committee of the Ministry of Industry and Infrastructure Development of the Republic of Kazakhstan.

The Barys 8x8 wheeled combat vehicle (BKM) was tested for four years. The Kazakstan Paramount Engineering company, created jointly with the South African company Paramount Group, presented this armored vehicle back in 2017. At the same time, the Ministry of Defense of Kazakhstan began testing BMV.

"Barys" 8x8 is designed specifically for the Kazakh army, positioned as a multipurpose armored vehicle equipped with advanced technologies, capable of performing the functions of both an armored personnel carrier and an infantry fighting vehicle. The declared characteristics: length - 8 m, width - 2,8 m, height on the roof - 2,4 m. Combat weight, depending on the configuration - up to 28 tons. Max. speed - 100 km / h, cruising range - 500 km. Crew - 2-3 people, landing - 8 people.

Reservation provides protection against small arms weapons, fragments and mines. The declared level is level 3 STANAG 4569. The bottom is flat, but provides protection at level 4B (up to 10 kg in TNT equivalent), energy-absorbing chairs are installed.

A remotely controlled combat module Ansar, developed in Kazakhstan, is installed as a weapon. The module is equipped with a 2 mm 72A30 automatic cannon, a PKT 7,62 mm coaxial machine gun, and smoke grenades. Provided for the installation of ATGM.

BKM "Barys" 8x8 is fully ready for adoption, the decision is for the Kazakh Ministry of Defense.

Comments

[OgnennyiKotik]

Turkish competitor in this competition. The characteristics are the same. Video of tests in Kazakhstan:

[Mountain shooter]

Nothing special, apparently, not floating (where to swim there?), And the armament is standard. Why not BTR-82?
Question to the Kazakh MO. Probably, the South Africans have "thicker" kickbacks ...

[Ratmir_Ryazan]

Why not BTR-82?
Question to the Kazakh MO. Probably, the South Africans have "thicker" kickbacks ... 

Because Barys is an order of magnitude more secure and more convenient than the BTR-82 and they make it themselves.

Why would Kazakhstan pay money to Russia for outdated equipment when there is an opportunity to give money to its enterprises and get a modern powerful armored personnel carrier ?!

That's right, there is no need.

Kazakhs are great. And we still will not give birth to Boomerang. It's already a shame, but soon it will be shameful.

In Lithuania, armored personnel carriers are more powerful than in Russia.

[Zaurbek]

Much depends on the TK MO ..... float, localization of multi-fuel diesel, etc. all this is not so simple ... even the armor steel on many such projects the armor steel - Swedish or German.

[Cron]

Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan

Kazakhs are great. And we still will not give birth to Boomerang. It's already a shame, but soon it will be shameful.
In Lithuania, armored personnel carriers are more powerful than in Russia.

You shoot all sorts of different hypersounds and at the same time you are ashamed of armored personnel carriers. An unfamiliar feeling, to be honest. I think it's just a priority, isn't it?

[OgnennyiKotik]

Quote: Cron

I think it's just a priority, isn't it?

Done right. Useless propaganda projects are a priority, and the real combat capability and lives of ordinary soldiers are secondary.

[Cron]

Done right. Useless propaganda projects are a priority, and the real combat capability and lives of ordinary soldiers are secondary.

Did I ask you something? Yes, the priority is armament, which, if something happens, will help to weigh down absolutely any enemy. Including your owners, breeding their penguins and floating troughs on a large scale, with which you regularly polish your ass here.
Obviously, priority has been given to strategic weapons, air defense missile defense, etc. So that ordinary soldiers do not have to die later in these armored personnel carriers of yours. So only your opinion is useless here. And most likely your attempts are connected with the fact that no matter how much your idols push, you still cannot achieve superiority

[Sergey Aleksandrovich]

Right now, I do not see any particular reason for frustration with light armored vehicles and there is nothing to be ashamed of. There was much more reason for frustration in the 80s. Then the BTR-70, 80 had a small tower without an electric drive and even without a sunroof and only with a large-caliber machine gun, they did not even consider it necessary to install a 23-mm cannon. But then there were serious hostilities, for almost ten years.

[Ratmir_Ryazan]

Are you offering Russia to fight with hypersonic missiles alone ?!

Russia is almost 10 times more populous in Kazakhstan and has significant resources, so it would be high time for us to have a new armored personnel carrier in the troops, at least in some units, and some of them should be equipped with KAZ.

Yes, and for the most part we have to fight on land, and now we are inferior in the quality of land weapons in almost all directions. And every conflict demonstrates this to us, but until we wash ourselves abundantly with blood, nothing moves.

What prevented for a long time from making a couple of dozen of the same Boomerangs and sending them to the same Syria,
so that you don't have to go there on patrols in old BTR-82s?

What prevents KAZ from making for armored vehicles and, again, delivering it to our fighters
and our ally Syria and test it there in battle, and give them at least some protection against ATGM and RPG?

Where are the videos of the use of successful weapons from our UAVs of the type that Bayraktars counted in 44 days of the war? Instead, Putin was given a video clip from a computer game. This is generally a shame. Who and what is doing there in the Ministry of Defense, that the first person of the country is being deceived with a false video from YouTube?

All this would help save the lives of our soldiers and more successfully complete missions.

But this is not the case and it is a shame and it is not necessary to say that the whole country is now making hypersonic missiles.

In my opinion, it is necessary to ask harder for the result and for each allocated penny.

[SKVichyakow]

Everything goes the old way with us. Invest less, alter something, add something, but why bother? By principle, and from here it is clearly visible. Chubais's version, women will give birth to new ones.

[venik]

Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan

Because Barys is an order of magnitude more secure and more convenient than the BTR-82 and they make it themselves.

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Yourself? The design of the vehicle is South African, the design of the combat module is Turkish, the engine ("Cummins") and transmission ("Allison") are American, the weapons are Russian, steel is Swedish ("SAAB") ....... What is KAZAKH ??? Wheels? A! Got it: assembly!
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Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan

Why would Kazakhstan pay money to Russia for outdated equipment when there is an opportunity to give money to its enterprises and get a modern powerful armored personnel carrier ?!
That's right, there is no need.

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Right! Better to pay to the States, South Africa, Turkey, Russia and Sweden!
That's just - Ukraine - will not be paid, because as you - there is NOTHING to offer Kazakhstan!

[Dkuznecov]

The Kazakh name is there. In honor of the hockey club of the same name.

[Ratmir_Ryazan]

What is there KAZAKH ??? what Wheels? A! Got it: assembly! bully

BTR Kazakh. Combat module Kazakh. All this is collected in Kazakhstan.

And anyone can buy iron, an engine and wheels, but not every one of these armored personnel carriers will assemble. And a good armored personnel carrier.

At the same time, Kazakhs know how to count money, why should they build a plant for the production of individual modules - an engine, transmission, etc. when it is easier and cheaper for them to buy 500 sets of engines and transmissions ready-made and make 500 armored personnel carriers out of them.

And they build factories for the production of modules, then what to do when the required number of armored personnel carriers will be delivered to the troops? Close only. Moreover, even the mothballed production facilities will draw huge amounts of money for the maintenance of these facilities.

If Kazakhstan did everything for the armored personnel carriers only himself, he would have created them much later and at a price they would have come out much more expensive.

For the same reason, Israel uses imported modules for its Merkava tank and nothing, God forbid everyone fights on.

But Russia has everything of its own and engines and transmissions and armor, there are only no new armored personnel carriers in the troops))).

And there is no technology of increased protection against mines (MRAP), where it is needed, but Kazakhstan does not care that this is a copy of the South African Morader, the main thing is that he is and he will save, and our fighters in Syria are dying in Kamaz and old Armored personnel carriers.

It's a shame.

[venik]

Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan

BTR Kazakh.

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Armored personnel carrier - yuarovsky! (Kazakhs NEVER designed or built ANY armored vehicles!). They even get their bodies ready-made! This summer, at one of the Kazakh sites, there was information that they were just GOING to arrange the assembly (welding) of the housings at home, but this requires production facilities, which they DO NOT have! (if you are very interested, I will try to find a link to Kazakh [/ b] site)
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Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan

Combat module Kazakh.

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Combat module - designed and produced by [b] Turkish company! True, in the latest modifications they are trying to supply a RUSSIAN module with a 57-mm cannon ..... But it is also NOT Kazakh!
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Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan

And anyone can buy iron, an engine and wheels, but not every one of these armored personnel carriers will assemble. And a good armored personnel carrier.

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Right! for example huh ... Sorry! - the Ukrainians tried to "vmantulit" the German diesel engine and the American transmission on the BTR-80 .... And they got a "miracle of nature": BTR-3 .... Which breaks down at every turn ..... And why? Yes, because they could not calculate correctly ...... And this is Ukraine, where there is (Sorry - WAS) a powerful design school! And Kazakhstan? WHEN and WHAT of the equipment in Kazakhstan DEVELOPED? Are you sure that just like that - "from ZERO" you can design something GOOD?
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Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan

But Russia has everything of its own and engines and transmissions and armor, only there are no new armored personnel carriers in the troops

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Yah?! BTR-82A alone (newly built) - more than half a thousand (not counting the paired BTR-82AM) .... AND HOW MUCH was the "Barysov" built? ten? 10? There are more "Boomerangs" in experimental military operation! just don't tell me about the different needs of the RF and RK Armed Forces!
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Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan

and our fighters in Syria are dying in Kamaz trucks and old armored personnel carriers.

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Let's leave KamAZ alone (this is a separate topic!) .... But HOW MANY of our guys died in Syria in armored personnel carriers? Figures - "to the studio" !!! No? Well, you don't need to: "bla-bla-bla"!

PS Conclusion: Conclusion: This "Barys", although a good car - but it NOT Kazakh a car! This is a FULLY licensed craft! And there is NOTHING Kazakh there!

[Ratmir_Ryazan]

PS Conclusion: Conclusion: This "Barys", although not a bad car, is NOT a Kazakh car! This is a FULLY licensed craft! And there is NOTHING Kazakh there!

Kazakhstan took and made an excellent modern armored personnel carrier, and the fact that it used ready-made modules and ready-made developments is only a plus for them, because they got the maximum result in a short time.

Moreover, this is the development of a private company.

The design of this armored personnel carrier was carried out by a Kazakhstani private company and jointly with the South African people, but it was the Kazakhs who made this armored personnel carrier.

We took what we could from others, refined it and showed an excellent result.

Just like the Merkava tank, it is an Israeli tank, despite the fact that the engine, transmission, cannon and much more have not been done in Israel.

[venik]

Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan

In Lithuania, armored personnel carriers are more powerful than in Russia.

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And Lithuania already constructs и produces [b] [/ b] APCs?

[Ratmir_Ryazan]

Is Lithuania already designing and producing [b] [/ b] armored personnel carriers? 

Lithuania has in the troops, and in Russia, the new armored personnel carrier can only ride on Red Square once a year.

[venik]

Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan

Lithuania has in the troops, and in Russia, the new armored personnel carrier can only ride on Red Square once a year.

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HOW MANY Lithuanian armored personnel carriers (development and production of Lithuania) are "in the army" ??? And will they be enough for them to make a "parade calculation" for the passage through the Square (not even Red)?

[Ratmir_Ryazan]

Lithuania does not need to make its own armored personnel carriers, it is cheaper and faster for them to buy them.

Under a contract signed three years ago, Lithuania is purchasing 88 armored personnel carriers with a 30 mm turret gun and a 7,62 mm coaxial machine gun, also equipped with Spike anti-tank missile launchers. This number includes three training armored personnel carriers, simulators and training facilities, repair and technical equipment. In Lithuania, instead of the Boxer APC, it was decided to give the name Vilkas. Completion of the contract is scheduled for 2021.

Enough to drive across the square. And they can buy more if needed.

[faiver]

Why not BTR-82?

- yes, as if by weight, you can see that the level of security is higher ...

[Ratmir_Ryazan]

A powerful armored personnel carrier turned out.

Judging by the picture, observation devices can be retracted into the tower body.

[Zaurbek]

THIS IS a South African apparatus, traditionally protected by explosives and mines and having a minimum of barriers in terms of export ... - on civilian units.

[askort154]

And with whom is Kazakhstan going to fight ?! With Turkey? China? Or Mongolia? Sit exactly in the CSTO, and no one will attack you.

[faiver]

Sit exactly in the CSTO, and no one will attack you.

- after such speeches they begin to arm themselves ...

[askort154]

faiver after such speeches they begin to arm themselves ...

Don't la-la. You have to sit in one chair, not fidget in several. Georgia and Ukraine have already fiddled with Anglo-Saxon stools.
They thought harder and softer. They were promised a lot. As a result, they are now sitting on the floor by the baseboard.

[faiver]

The leadership of all the former republics of the USSR builds policy on opposing Russia, who is open and who is secretly, and this is a fact ...

[Ramadan]

The CSTO is collective security, not the obligation of Russia alone to protect everyone. A turmoil will begin in Uzbekistan or Tajikistan, then Kazakhstan will be obliged to send someone and on something.

[Yuriy71]

In this "Agreement" there is not a single member ... who will protect someone and something !!! Don't be so naive !!! Russia - there will always be One and her salvation - the Army and the Navy !!!

[Sergey Aleksandrovich]

You don't need so much harmful and stupid pathos. Russia has never been alone. And in 1941, Yugoslavia, with its fierce resistance to the Germans, delayed the attack on the USSR, and then the allies helped with weapons and now even in Syria, together with Iran.

[askort154]

Ramadan..... The CSTO is collective security, not the obligation of Russia alone to protect everyone

And for this it is necessary to buy equipment in the distant kingdom. Try for a NATO member to buy non-American weapons. Turkey bought it, so the United States is still kicking it. What Kazakhstan buys on the side is a clear financial
the deal is not in the interests of the country, but in the interests of a certain group.

[Rusticolus]

And with whom is Kazakhstan going to fight ?!

The Kazakhs, from time to time, also have to disperse the Kyrgyz and the Tajiks when they are outright dispersed. And these armored personnel carriers are there just right.

[Humpty]

Quote: Rusticolus

The Kazakhs, from time to time, also have to disperse the Kyrgyz and the Tajiks when they are outright dispersed. And these armored personnel carriers are there just right.

This is probably about the case when they and the machine gunners blocked the gas station on the way to the Kyrgyz resort with barbed wire so that the Kyrgyz would not refuel there ...
Previously, from the breakthrough of such avalanches, the Panfilov divisions from Kyrgyzstan managed to install concrete barriers. But concrete blocks plus an armored car are always stronger than just concrete.
And I haven't heard anything about Kazakh-Tajik tensions. Let me tell you. I'm waiting.
Are Tajiks breaking through to Chimkent?

[Yuriy71]

Here the USSR has built the industry with this all .... They still live on its remnants and the school !!!

[Artemion3]

Quote: Yuriy71

Here the USSR has built the industry with this all .... They still live on its remnants and the school !!!

And now they want to get rid of the Russian language.

[askort154]

Artemion3 .....And now they want to get rid of the Russian language.

Nothing new. Old waste Anglo-Saxon political technology
hybrid war. Prohibit the Russian language, then falsify history, introduce "preachers" of a beautiful Western life, organize a "color revolution", educate a new generation for themselves. The separation of the Baltics, Georgia and Ukraine from Russia began with the prohibition of the Russian language.

[Uncle lee]

Quote: askort154

Prohibit Russian

I'm very interested in what language is the instruction for this self-running stroller in? To Zulu, Afrikaans, Tsonga, South Ndebele, Tswana, Venda, North Soto, Kos, Sesotho, English or Kazakh and Latin?

[Humpty]

Quote from Uncle Lee

I'm very interested in

A reasonable question. Language patrols on the roads of Kazakhstan require that regardless of the country of registration of the car, citizenship of passengers and driver, the pharmacy must have a translation into Kazakh. They also regulate the styles of hats and the colors of clothes.

[Uncle lee]

Quote: Humpty

regulate the styles of hats and the colors of clothing.

Independence is a very contagious disease! And the inscriptions are also in Latin?
Rave...

[Humpty]

Quote from Uncle Lee

And the inscriptions are also in Latin?

I don’t know yet, the information is half a year old. Now, in order to get to a neighboring village in Kazakhstan within 20 kilometers, I need to fly by plane through the international airport. Free movement of citizens with covid certificates is strictly prohibited.

[Uncle lee]

"Kazakhstan has not yet died" .... Do they have such a hymn now?

[Humpty]

Quote: Uncle Lee

"Kazakhstan has not yet died" .... Do they have such a hymn now?

The Golden Horde, from Altai to the White Sea, is the legacy of the great Khan Jochi, who was killed to death by a fierce donkey beast.

[Uncle lee]

Quote: Humpty

a donkey was bitten by a fierce beast.

Terrible death!

[Humpty]

Quote from Uncle Lee

Terrible death!

Tradition. Shoot yourself with two shots in the heart and one in the head, and fall into the river unnoticed by video cameras.

[Uncle lee]

Quote: Humpty

fall into the river.

And hang on a rope around your neck ... There was no talk about cyan ...

[Humpty]

Quote from Uncle Lee

neck ... There was no talk about cyan ...

About the newcomer, popular in London, not a word, only an unknown substance.

[Ben Gunn]

Well done Kazakhs. And where are our Boomerangs and other Kurgan residents? Still "experiencing"? It's just some kind of shame.

[Flooding]

Quote: Ben Gunn

Well done Kazakhs. And where are our Boomerangs and other Kurgan residents? Still "experiencing"? It's just some kind of shame.

By and large, I agree
but the comparison is not correct
Boomerang and Kurganets were developed from scratch.
The Kazakhs, on the other hand, have ready-made blanks and solutions from South Africa.

[Ben Gunn]

Our cars were shown in hardware and on the move in 2015, right? And they said that soon they will go to the troops in a straight stream. 2021 is already ending. Where is all this beauty in the troops, at least one battalion kit is there somewhere? If something is still heard about Armata, then both Boomerang and Kurganets have completely disappeared from sight.

[Flooding]

Quote: Ben Gunn

said that soon they will go to the troops in a straight stream. The 2021st is already ending

Official application from 04.02.2020.

State tests of the promising Kurganets-25 and Boomerang combat vehicles are scheduled to be completed in 2022, Russian Industry and Trade Minister Denis Manturov said in an interview with RIA Novosti.

More details at https://ria.ru/20200204/1564221728.html

[Ben Gunn]

I am aware of this. We know how to make applications for "excellent", you yourself know that. How many of these statements have been made over the past years? It's just that it takes anger when you see BMP-1/2 in parts, but here they can't get tested for seven years.

[Flooding]

Quote: Ben Gunn

It's just that it takes anger when you see BMP-1/2 in parts, but here they can't get tested for seven years.

on the other hand, you probably understand that there will not be enough money and production capacity to quickly replace the fleet of Soviet armored personnel carriers / infantry fighting vehicles
so it turns out whatever one may say, but it's not quick

[Ben Gunn]

Of course, this is a long-term project. But they can't even start right there. Or they don't want to.

[Flooding]

The Kazakstan Paramount Engineering company, created jointly with the South African company Paramount Group, presented this armored vehicle back in 2017.

In fact, Barys 8x8 was presented at ARMY-2016

taken at www.vitalykuzmin.net

[Codett]

Well done Kazakhs, and we still buy a cardboard btr-82, for 6 years they have been sawing and sawing a boomerang, although the budget may also be along the way

[Khatul Madan]

this chyudo military idea reminds me of something there! ...