US Air Force successfully tests HAWC (Hypersonic Air-Air Weapon Concept) hypersonic missile

The United States has successfully tested a new hypersonic missile. This was reported by the US Department of Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (DARPA).

Details of the tests are not fully disclosed. From the official message it is known that the new hypersonic missile was developed by the Raytheon corporation as part of the HAWC (Hypersonic Air-Air Weapon Concept) program, it is equipped with a Northrop Grummann ramjet engine running on a mixture of hydrocarbon fuel and air.

The tests were carried out last week, the rocket was launched from an airplane. Previously, B-52Hs were considered as carriers of HAWC. After a certain time after the separation from the aircraft, the rocket engine turned on. It is emphasized that the speed of the rocket was five times the speed of sound.

According to the US Air Force Command, the test objectives, namely: the integration of the rocket, the development of the launch and safe undocking from the aircraft, as well as the start of the engines and the cruise flight, have been achieved. The tests were found to be successful.

Above the program for creating hypersonic aviation The Hypersonic Air-breathing Weapon Concept (HAWC) missiles are jointly operated by the US Air Force and the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (DARPA). It is assumed that the new hypersonic missile will be used by both B-1B and B-52 bombers and fighters, including the F-35. Raytheon and Lockheed Martin are participating in the tender for the creation of a new ammunition.

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[Cowbra]

There is nothing left to test - the ability to aim the missile at the target. Through the plasma. As long as I remember. their previous programs at this stage were covered. And so yes, peremoga.

[Peak]

US Air Force successfully tests HAWC (Hypersonic Air-Air Weapon Concept) hypersonic missile

Hypersonic, this Super Sonic on steroids + doping?

[Blackmokona]

Hypersonic is hypersound

[military_cat]

HAWC (Hypersonic Air-Air Weapon Concept)

HAWC is Hypersonic Air-breathing Weapon Concept, where Air-Breathing means "air-jet". That is, the name itself emphasizes that this is not just a hypersound, but a hypersound with a hypersonic ramjet engine (scramjet engine).

[Mountain shooter]

Quote: Cowbra

Through the plasma. As long as I remember. their previous programs at this stage were covered. And so yes, peremoga.

They are only at the beginning of the journey. But, as usual, striped ears, have already declared victory ... unconditional and final.

[Flanker692]

They are only at the beginning of the journey

The United States was engaged in hypersonic technologies back in the 2s. In the early tenths, successful launches were carried out on a number of samples, albeit not without losses. An analogue of the Vanguard (Falcon HTV-2011) was tested in 51 (but it can be considered a real "hypersonic weapon" only for propaganda purposes), the X-5A Waverider (an air-launched missile with a ramjet engine independently supported Mach 2013 - a prototype of a real hypersonic aircraft ) tested in 2015. There was a lot more, including flights of Chinese gliders in near-outer space. What hypersonic vehicles were launched in Russia before 10, remember? Further, the programs were frozen: too expensive for revision and practical application. But the situation escalated: the United States and the Russian Federation withdrew from joint agreements. Missile defense in Europe, Putin's famous address to the federal assembly with animations of new missiles. If in Russia - Vanguard, Zircon, Dagger, Gremlin, etc. then in the USA there are no fewer such programs. Are there people who seriously believe that the United States can be outplayed in high-tech weapons for a long time? They just blew off the dust from past projects, threw in a 2025 times larger budget, by 30 they will bring a lot, by the year XNUMX these hypersonic whistles will be given to each Marine under the armpit. Who else would not do this after the pictures of warheads falling on Florida, shown by the president of another country? Well, that rushed over the bumps, you know what.

But, as usual, striped ears, have already declared victory ... unconditional and final.

There is an opinion of you and me, there is an opinion of an expert, and a Russian one: “The speed of Mach 5 may not seem very impressive, but it should be emphasized that here we are dealing with an air-jet engine, and not a“ glider ”(gliding winged unit or aeroballistic rocket). For such missiles, in principle, a "low" hypersound is assumed to be quite a typical characteristic. In any case, this speed has not yet been achieved by any weapon using this technology, although in Russia (as well as, for example, in China, India and Japan) quite a lot of similar projects have been and are being carried out, "a researcher at the Center for International Security IMEMO RAN Dmitry Stefanovich. link to the RBC article: https://www.rbc.ru/politics/27/09/2021/61520cc39a794759edbd7394

[stalki]

To begin with, let them confirm how long she lasted in the air, seconds or minutes, and what then became of her, and how they smeared butter on a sandwich. And in fact, while the next "zilch".

[bayard]

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They just blew off the dust from past projects and threw in 10 times the budget there,

Their X-51 program was based entirely on the Soviet program "Cold", all the materials on which they received in the 90s. But since in the USSR, by that time, only the first practical launches had been carried out, without hitting targets (only achieving speed and flight stability), after which the program was closed by Gorbachev, in the USA they were able to repeat only what we had achieved. More did not work for them.
They may benefit from the fact that while the Russian Federation is developing and completing the Zircon test as an anti-ship missile (which is much more complicated than just a strike on a stationary object), it is more important for the United States to obtain a strike weapon to destroy ground targets with known coordinates. And this is much easier to achieve. So they can really reduce the lag behind the RF and the PRC in the coming years.
Another thing is that the Russian Aerospace Forces (and even the PRC) already have sufficient air defense / missile defense systems to counter such a threat, but the United States does not yet.
And another question for the warhead of such a projectile. There cannot be much conventional explosives, and the rocket will be very expensive and complex. The conclusion logically follows that a justified warhead for such a delivery vehicle will only be nuclear warheads ... and this is a new round of the arms race.
And this race will be led by not two, but three powers.
Well, about the F-35 as a carrier - some amusement.
If the F-15 were called such a carrier, then all right ... just the starting weight and dimensions will not allow taking this on an external suspension.

[Flanker692]

Their X-51 program was based entirely on the Soviet Cold program.

Well, this is ...

can it be "wholly based" on this ?? ....

Please, well, you don't need to plant REN TV here. I put it all on a par with "the Americans copied their F-35 from our Yak-141" and other stuff.

"Zircon" as an anti-ship missile

There are more questions than answers on Zircon. There are enough reasoned articles on the forum and in the internet in general, questioning "Onyx 2.0", flying at a speed of Mach 8, and even striking a floating order. For example, https://topwar.ru/177899-oniks-vmesto-cirkona.html. On my own I will add that any MO throws dust in the eyes, but sometimes it becomes noticeable. The video of the launch of the Zircon rocket (which looks more like Onyx in appearance) does not count. It can not be so? In this regard, I really like the third-party example:

The Ministry of Defense through Zvezda releases it as "Iskander hitting" terrorists "". The audience is objectively indignant, why is it more like a shell explosion and where is the three-ton Iskander in general? And Zvezda does 10 times more stupid thing - it releases the following video (link with a fixed comment) where the moment of impact is seen in "slow motion", but in fact the silhouette of a rocket is photographed, which is clearly visible at 0,25 speed.

Another thing is that the Russian Aerospace Forces (and even the PRC) already have sufficient air defense / missile defense systems to counter such a threat, but the United States does not yet.

If they tell me that the weapon has no analogues and cannot be stopped by anything and this is not a nuclear explosion, I will not believe it. The sword and shield race will never stop. Here is an article about promising US missile defense programs launched in 2018: https://ria.ru/20190910/1558399018.html Among them, by the way, is the modernization of the SM-3 missile ALREADY in service (the same missile defense, there are many places, including destroyers ) shooting down satellites at a speed of ~ 24 km / s with a direct hit. Any hypersound in a non-maneuverable area is not a problem for them now. The modernization is apparently to shoot down those already maneuvering. I can only say that this is impossible when the program is closed as a failed one.
In Russia, they say there is a S-500 for this, which neutralizes any threat https://ria.ru/20210927/raketa-1752090611.html. Ok, i.e. The S-500, which is a verbally disruptive hypersound, will neutralize the Americans. And SM-3, which is shooting down satellites in practice and undergoing special modernization, cannot do this in relation to us. Ok, everything is logical.

Well, about the F-35 as a carrier - amused

Below in the comments I have already given the file how it all looks. The HAWC is not a Dagger, but a much smaller rocket. And HAWC has already been tested on the FA-18.

[bayard]

Quote from Flanker692

Well, this is ..

Quote from Flanker692

can it be "wholly based" on this ?? ....

Come on, the S-200 tested the scramjet engine, and only it. And the actual rocket under the cold program was very reminiscent of both the Kh-51 and the Zircon, as it is portrayed.
The United States then got all the technical documentation of the project and they repeated it exactly to the point that we had worked out. We faced the problem of a plasma cocoon and the cost of such a rocket in the future and ... the program was frozen. there was simply no enemy for such an expensive and complex thing.
And here "Zircon" is just the continuation of the "Cold" program.
And not only him. Work is also underway on the air version.

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Please, well, you don't need to plant REN TV here. I put it all on a par with "the Americans copied their F-35 from our Yak-141" and other stuff.

The Americans did not copy the Yak-141, they took the Yak-201 project and the Yakovlev design bureau's group of designers as a basis. Under a formal intergovernmental agreement, by the way.
And in 2005 I met with one of these designers in Moscow, where he returned after completing work on the project. And his son remained. also showed a personalized watch donated by Bush in gratitude.
But it is not a copy of the Yak F-35, it is a thoroughly revised project. And the idea to use a lifting fan through the power take-off shaft is the idea of ​​Yakovlev's design bureau. Moreover, it was already implemented on a bench model.

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There are more questions than answers on Zircon. There are enough reasoned articles on the forum and in the internet in general, questioning "Onyx 2.0", flying at a speed of Mach 8, and even striking a floating order.

I remember all these publications and participated in their discussion.
Both Onyx and Zircon use the same UVP, they have the same size and diameter. Therefore, by definition, their start will be similar (both ramjet engines, but different air intakes). If you look at the frame-by-frame start of "Zircon" and "Onyx", then you can notice the differences (when leaving the UVP), it is not very noticeable, but they are. And do not forget that they come out of the launcher with a rather massive "head", which first provides them with declination towards the target, and then is reset. This head is generally the same for them, which is not surprising. This is what makes them so similar at the start.
If "Zircon" was a fake, then the United States, closely watching its tests, would have debunked this myth long ago. But they just confirm the speed, and range, and altitude, time and place of all tests. And the very first leak about this rocket occurred back in 2009 - 2010. precisely from their reconnaissance, which revealed the first throw, and then the real launches of this rocket. And then I had to give it a name and officially confirm its existence.
But this is a continuation of the same program "Chill". All touched off from there.

Quote from Flanker692

no need to breed REN TV

And I do not at all question the ability of the United States to create such systems, by the way, I wrote about this. And since they have successfully launched the X-51 again, they may finish it if they solve the problem of the plasma cocoon.
And I repeat that in their case, such a missile is needed sooner to hit stationary targets, which is easier to do / implement, therefore, they can achieve a (positive) result faster than expected - in less time than the Russian Federation took, because Zircon is still positioned as a RCC.

Quote from Flanker692

and even striking the floating order.

Even if it does not go well with the defeat of surface targets (and they say that it is okay, and will enter service next year), it will do quite well as a hypersonic instrument for taking out the enemy's base and coastal infrastructure. And this will already be work for Yasenei-M.

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The Ministry of Defense through Zvezda releases it as "Iskander hitting" terrorists "". The audience is objectively indignant, why is it more like a shell explosion and where is the three-ton Iskander in general?

The warhead of the Iskander is half-ton, during the exercises it was probably weakened or even inert (and the remnants of the fuel exploded).

Quote from Flanker692

Another thing is that the Russian Aerospace Forces (and even the PRC) already have sufficient air defense / missile defense systems to counter such a threat, but the United States does not yet.

If they tell me that the weapon has no analogues and cannot be stopped by anything and this is not a nuclear explosion, I will not believe it.

I did not write about "not having anologists", I myself do not like these epithets. But being a former officer in the combat directorate of an air defense formation, I understand something about this.
And I meant that the combat algorithms of the S-400 complex were originally designed to intercept hypersonic high-altitude maneuvering targets. This is exactly what I wanted to say and nothing more.
In the S-500, such capabilities are even more developed, a much more powerful and advanced multifunctional AFAR radar (the first in our history), longer-range missiles and the ability to shoot down low-orbit satellites.
And what is especially interesting is that this multifunctional AFAR radar is now being supplied for the rearmament of all the S-400 air defense systems supplied to the troops. , which will give the already deployed air defense groupings completely new opportunities, during operation (including) and for hypersonic targets. I especially like this knight move.
And with regard to the PRC, we delivered the S-400 to them, so they can, with luck.
And do not ascribe to me other people's statements.

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And SM-3, which is shooting down satellites in practice and undergoing special modernization, cannot do this in relation to us. Ok, everything is logical.

I have not written about SM-3, but you should also know that shooting down a satellite flying in a well-known orbit is not as difficult as a hypersonic person on the border of the media, and even maneuvering. And the SM-3, and with conventional ballistic missiles, so far comes out 50/50 - without false targets, active interference and maneuvering of the unit. So the very fact of modernizing this raw product is not surprising, and I do not exclude the very possibility of the Americans solving this technical problem.

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Below in the comments I have already given the file how it all looks. The HAWC is not a Dagger, but a much smaller rocket. And HAWC has already been tested on the FA-18.

I have to look, but in any case, a hypersonic the size of an F-35 armament bay, I don't believe it. Maybe it's just a supersonic munition, like the X-31?

[Flanker692]

Come on, the S-200 tested the scramjet engine, and only it. And the actual rocket under the cold program was very reminiscent of both the Kh-51 and the "Zircon" as it is portrayed

There was never a missile similar to the Kh-51 in Russia before Zircon (who is similar to whom below).
The only Russian hypersonic wedge-shaped aircraft with a rectangular air intake is the unrealized Igla glider, aka Kholod-2, launched into space by the 100-ton Rokot launch vehicle.

Which is more or less similar but only to the X-43. Only the Americans were more modest and made it the size of a sofa, not a car and launched it on an 8-ton accelerator from under the B-52:

We argue that in the end:
6,5 Machs at the S-200 + "Cold";
Mach 9,6 for B-52 + Pegasus + X-43;
up to 14 Machs in theory for Rokot + "Needle";
8-9 Makhov declares in Zircon + nothing;
"5+ Machs" according to DARPA for the hero of the HAWC + FA-18 program.
It does not bother how a lonely Zircon, taking off at sea level, in Onyx's dimensions accelerates to Mach 8-9, and it also has a seeker in the nose, heated to 4000 degrees, and a sparkling metal miniature glider with an 8-ton accelerator launched from under the wing gives comparable Mach 9,6? Maybe all the same, in order to take off from the ground on the one hand, and on the other to fly in hypersound at an altitude of 20 km, fundamentally different engines, air intakes, appearance are needed? do you need steps? The dagger does not bother and starts from under the MiG-31, although it is not even a ramjet engine.
And now, attention, a very important point. No one has ever seen a Zircon without a fairing. No one even just in the starting state has not seen Zircon. If the Americans confirmed the launch parameters of something outwardly like Onyx (but they did not confirm or deny) why hide it? If it's based on the X-51, why hide it? If on federal channels they showed everyone the Zircon schedule in detail (although it is stupid X-51) and at the same time no one sat down for treason, then why hide this rocket? Just no need to tell that these are stupid student journalists, because this "our X-51" was played everywhere from all angles.

As for the "cartoons", you just need to show your finger. Here is Iskander frame by frame, materializing in the air in one place, while not yet hitting the ground, already raising a pillar of the earth:

Clarification: I do not argue that Iskander is a real weapon and most likely effective, I just point out that the king is naked and you need to be critical of the information provided.

The Americans did not copy the Yak-141, they took the Yak-201 project as a basis.

If with the Yak-141 there is at least some historical evidence of cooperation on the design of a reliable rotary nozzle that can withstand afterburner. Then, in the case of the Yak-201, there is no confirmation that it could have been the basis for the F-35, there are no reliable sources of information on the Yak-201 at all, there is no mention of the Yak-201 on the KB website, there is no information about the presence of a lifting fan, or rather nothing at all on the power plant, all of his images are often contradictory and in many respects created, I suspect by "fans", to "fit" them under the F-35B. There are images of some desktop models, which in any design bureaus are made in dozens of versions, and they are completely different from the F-35. For me, they look more like Su-75 with PGO. This is all just a beautiful myth about the lost 5th generation.

I also don't say anything bad about the S-500. Almaz-Antey, among others, looks cheerful. Not to like it only as they just as cheerfully signal that "we are not afraid of American invisibility." Selling abroad, I would be more restrained in terms.

Maybe it's just a supersonic munition, like the X-31?

So far, everything indicates that this is a hypersonic missile. In the booklet, Lockheed is suspended under the wing on an internal pylon that can support up to 5000 pounds.

[bayard]

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The only Russian hypersonic wedge-shaped aircraft with a rectangular air intake is the unrealized Igla glider, aka Kholod-2, launched into space by the 100-ton Rokot launch vehicle.

But what about the Koala project, widely known at the time (late 90s - early 00s)? They wrote a lot about him then, took them to exhibitions, there were a lot of different illustrations. After the collapse of the Soviet Union, our design bureaus could not calm down for a long time - they were looking for a customer.

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We argue that in the end:
6,5 Machs at the S-200 + "Cold";
Mach 9,6 for B-52 + Pegasus + X-43;
up to 14 Machs in theory for Rokot + "Needle";
8-9 Makhov declares in Zircon + nothing;
"5+ Machs" according to DARPA for the hero of the HAWC + FA-18 program.
It does not bother how a lonely Zircon, taking off at sea level, in Onyx's dimensions accelerates to Mach 8-9, and it also has a homing head in the nose, warmed up to 4000 degrees,

Let's not talk about it loudly - maybe a hoax. Do not forget when (!) These wonderful projects were voiced and presented in cartoons, what a moment it was.
And if "Zircon", as some say, it is simply "Onyx-2" (this is its name, exported to India - "Bramos-2"). He really had to accelerate to 8 - 8,5M, for this he threw his more powerful booster (accelerator) to a great height. That's just the range in all tests, he showed no more than 450 km. ... although it was declared "more than 1000 km.). You should know that" Zircon "(or Onyx-2) is much heavier than" Onyx "- more than 4500 kg. versus 3800 kg. for the latter. But the range is shorter ... maybe for now.
The range is "more than 1000 km." Perhaps they promised an air launch for the GZUR - it spends less energy on acceleration and ascent to an altitude, but "Solntselikiy" confused it.
Or maybe he was deliberately confused. This has happened in history.
In any case, I generally perceive some other samples of "super-weapons" with amazement ... CD with a nuclear engine of unlimited range ... WHY?
What is her trick?
From the satellite it will be as in the palm of your hand, after the detection it is not difficult to shoot down ...
Range?
And what's the point if interceptors from aircraft carriers intercept it over any water area. They have a lot of satellites, AWACS planes too ...
Super torpedo "Status-6" \ "Poseidon" ... no, if a mine (!), Yes in the right place, yes ahead of time, on an autonomous and VERY quiet device ... then I'm for.
And then - noise, hum, thunder, crackle ... 100 nodes and four super-expensive, complex and very specific nuclear submarine carriers ...
But isn't it scary?
And the fear of the enemy is very useful.
In general, a lot was promised, perhaps as a reason for bargaining for "New Yalta", as someone prophesied.
But in the United States there was a revolution (in Russian - a coup) - the "communists" came to power. I mean, Trotsky's granddaughter Pelossi and her Old Friend.
... Since then, all the governments of the world have one, but a fiery passion - "to prick and forget.
Forever and ever .

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In the case of the Yak-201, there is no confirmation that it could be the basis for the F-35, there are no reliable sources of information on the Yak-201 at all, there is no mention of the Yak-201 on the KB website, there is no data on the presence of a lifting fan,

They were looking badly, or have recently become interested. There were a lot of publications about this, including a photo of that very engine on the stand - with a fan drive.
From which the members of the American commission were speechless. Especially after learning that he is a worker. And that engine was being prepared exactly for the Yak-201.
It was supposed to be a work on errors and a generalization of the experience of working on the Yak-141. And of course the "Stealth" configuration, which was already fashionable at that time.
What is most interesting, the final appearance of his airframe was not yet there, it was the MAIN thing - an engine driven by a fan.
So the Americans sailed from him.
And the point is not that they could not imagine such a thing, by no means. They were just TRYING to CREATE this. But they didn't even have a reliable rotary afterburner. And they dreamed of a fan since the late 80s. I remember their sketches from intelligence bulletins at the turn of 1987-1988. They had a picture of a VTOL aircraft (the desired look), and it was a cross between the F-35 and the Yak-201. And much closer to the Yak-201.
That's probably why they swam - they saw the appearance of the desired VTOL aircraft and the finished engine with a lifting fan.
So they could not resist and went to Bush (or Clinton, rather) to resolve the issue through Yeltsin, because the design bureau offered work on order, cooperation, up to a joint venture, but not just a transfer ... Through Yeltsin it turned out, an official intergovernmental agreement was drawn up on the transfer of technology of the nozzle and fan with a reduction gear, and an official business trip of the design bureau's group of designers to the United States. It was with one of those who did come back that I met in Moscow in 2005.
And his son stayed there.
Yes, about this story, after the F-35 was first shown, a lot of materials were published ... Another thing is that our people then already began to read a little.
Yes, I also met with the deputies of the Duma on the same day, I asked the vice-speaker a question. He explained to me about the intergovernmental agreement. So don't hesitate.

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I also don't say anything bad about the S-500. Almaz-Antey, among others, looks cheerful. Not to like it only as they just as cheerfully signal that "we are not afraid of American invisibility."

Market , if you do not praise it, you will not sell it.
But the radar there is really very good. AFAR, multi-frequency, power, range ... Especially if the ZGRLS illuminates ahead of time. And for her, "invisibles" do not exist at all.

[And Us Rat]

Quote: bayard

What I meant was that the combat algorithms of the S-400 complex were originally designed to intercept hypersonic high-altitude maneuvering targets.

Today it is possible to register even a trait of a bald chasing teleporting Smurfs into algorithms, and flash it into a coffee grinder, the software will endure everything.
The question is always about the ability of the hardware to execute these algorithms.

[bayard]

Well, sew the grinder and you will be happy. She will blow everything for you.

[Nikolaevich I]

After Putin announced the development of hypersonic weapons, I wrote then in the comment: "Pandora's box is open!" Was the correct decision taken then by Russia? After all, the United States at that time, as it were, "calmed down" about hypersound ... "hypersonic" projects were put on the back burner ... should Russia have "twitched"? Well, it would be possible to work with hypersound "on the sly" ... without frightening the states abruptly! And now the USA is "moving" too! And now it is worth considering the "banana to the nose" ...: 1. The US budget and the budget of the Russian Federation; 2. Scientific research base of the USA and the Russian Federation; 3. The production base of the USA and the Russian Federation ... And the necessary "gadgets" for the effective use of hypersonic weapons? To effectively use such weapons, it is necessary to "effectively" detect targets, make the right decision quickly, aim the weapon, evaluate the result ... It is necessary to have a sufficient number of sufficient readiness and a satellite constellation, and an "arsenal" of atmospheric AWACS assets, and strategic delivery vehicles strike weapons .. Who has "less problems" with this?

[meandr51]

If they hadn't moved with hyper, the Russian Federation would have been eaten with giblets. And now we have an advantage that is not so easy to neutralize. The budget is not the main thing. If the "problems" were solved at the beginning of the XNUMXs, now they are not problems. Together with China, the Russian Federation is quite capable of bankrupting the States in this race.

[OgnennyiKotik]

Current hypersonic weapons programs.

[meandr51]

By that time, the Russian Federation will go even further. The system for their interception is already in place. And the United States still does not have a normal anti-missile missile.

[jonht]

I think that for them, just a successful rocket flight is a SUCCESS. For the most part, all previous launches ended with a failure of the flight program or the destruction of the rocket. And they will still think about aiming.

[knn54]

-namely:
.integration of the rocket,
training for launching and safely undocking from the aircraft,
.and also starting the engines
, and cruising flight -
achieved. The tests were found to be successful.
That is, WITHOUT a hypersonic gliding unit

[Avior]

Judging by the picture and description, we are talking about a hypersonic cruise missile, not a ballistic missile gliding unit.

[Flanker692]

The HAWC is an aerodynamic trajectory airborne ramjet rocket (maintains speed with an engine). Those. it is not like the Dagger, or similarly experienced by the Americans ARRW with simpler aeroballistic trajectories (maintains speed by falling from a height). She does not need to gain 40 km - it will go to the target in a more direct way without planning. Although ARRW is a little more complicated in comparison with the Dagger - it has a second stage with a glider, i.e. maneuvers at the final section.
The tests were carried out in cooperation with test flight personnel of the Navy, i.e. although DARPA does not indicate the type of carrier, but with a high probability it was FA-18 (there are no others). Thus, it can also be assumed that the missile is smaller than the Dagger or ARRW in size. According to DARPA, the Northrop Gruman ramjet engine maintained speed "above Mach 5".

[ja-ja-vw]

Quote: Cowbra

There is nothing left to test - the ability to aim the missile at the target. Through the plasma.

Well, here they are prompting:
-3M22
-15Yu71 or Yu-71
-9-A-7660
?
according to their program, it is a cruise missile for the destruction of stationary targets.
it will fly by ins ...

[Thrifty]

Hypersonic is ALWAYS 6 SIX supersonic speeds minimum, and 5 supersonic speeds is American exceptional hypersonic ...

[Blackmokona]

Since the 1970s, the concept is usually referred to as supersonic speeds with Mach numbers (M) above 5

[Sergey Nikiforov]

And all editions give 4,5 or 5

[Nikolaevich I]

Quote: Thrifty

Hypersonic is ALWAYS 6 SIX supersonic speeds minimum, and 5 supersonic speeds is American exceptional hypersonic ...

Six supersonic speeds ... five supersonic speeds ... A very clumsy expression! And if you do not "be smart" and say in a simple way: 6M ... 5M ...?! By the way, everyone is now using the concept: hypersound-over 5M ...

[ja-ja-vw]

Quote: Thrifty

and 5 supersonic speeds is an American exceptional hypersound ...

well, they also have the Karman line not a line, but space begins at an altitude of 80,45 km (50 miles)

[Cowbra]

hypersonic missile HAWC (Hypersonic Air-Air Weapon Concept)

By the way, what exactly is HAWC? And then, googling - "ARRW (Air-Launched Rapid Response Weapon)" - there is such a hypersonic, but there is no HAWC.
By the way, with ARRW they have already done:

This is the rocket that has been promised to be launched for a year now. Funny figures - the mass was expected to be somewhere more per ton, the range is too small, the main targets are announced - "Microsoft" ("soft and motionless" and small, judging by the mass of the warhead) and the price of the "product" is indicated ...

PiSi: ah, found in Reuters. There is a funny footnote - they say there is no date. Campaign, proactively develop. Maybe Raytheon will be able to fall on the tail of the budget

[OgnennyiKotik]

HAWC and ARRW are two parallel programs. ARRW is a planning unit like the Dagger, it is larger, it is planned for service with the B-1/2/21. HAWC is a rocket with a ramjet engine, it is planned to be smaller except for bombers on the F-15/18/35.
And these are programs, there may be more missiles.

[Cowbra]

Quote: OgnennyiKotik

And these are exactly the programs

They have complete bullshit ...

The HAWC is exploring air-breathing hypersonic flight in parallel with the Air Force's AGM-183A Air-launched Rapid-Response Weapon (ARRW)

Well yes, two programs at the same time

The Air Force has said it plans to pursue both the ARRW and the Hypersonic Attack Cruise Missile (HACM), as initial and future hypersonic attack capabilities, respectively. The HACM will be an air-breathing system, which would have longer range than the ARRW because it can use ambient air for oxidizer, rather than relying on the boost effects of a missile. As ARRW glides to its target, it will lose energy because it is no longer powered. While the Air Force plans to put the ARRW on the B-52 in early iterations, it has said the HACM will be smaller and carried on fighter-sized aircraft.

And one is also divided into two. One with an oxidizer inside and for B-52. the other from air oxygen and to fighters.
And before that they whined that there was only one hypersonic program left - and it was ground-based ...
https://www.airforcemag.com/hypersonic-hawc-missile-flies-details-kept-hidden/

[provergatel]

Sorry, but the planning block is Vanguard.

The gliding block is installed as a warhead in the MBR warhead and can only be used with it. Since he "plans" from orbit.

"Dagger" has nothing to do with gliding units, except that it is also hypersonic, it has nothing.

[Orange bigg]

They are trying to create an analogue of our X-32, only the X-32 has long been tested and is in service with the Russian Aerospace Forces, and the Americans are not so rosy, since sources report that at the final stage of testing, control over the missile was lost and so and could not hit the conditional target, but for the Americans this is already a success.

.In the United States, for the first time, a rocket was accelerated to hypersonic speed.

For the first time since the development of hypersonic weapons, the American military managed to accelerate the missile to 5 speeds of sound. This indicates that the United States, as part of the tests, were successfully able to approach the creation of hypersonic weapons. Nevertheless, apparently, the speed indicator was borderline, in addition, sources report that at the final stage of testing, control over the missile was lost and it was never able to hit the conditional target.

“The United States has tested hypersonic air-jet weapons capable of five times the speed of sound in the first successful test of this class of weapon since 2013,” the Pentagon said on Monday. Free flight tests of the hypersonic air weapon concept (HAWC) took place last week, the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (DARPA) said in a statement. Hypersonic weapons travel in the upper atmosphere at more than five times the speed of sound, or about 6200 kilometers per hour, "Reuters news agency reported.

However, the fact that the United States cannot achieve stability in the ongoing tests indicates that there are no real prospects for the Pentagon to arm itself with hypersonic missiles so far.

Moreover, experts draw attention to the fact that the boundary flight speed of the rocket at hypersonic rates makes it very vulnerable even for the S-300 and S-400 air defense systems.

https://avia.pro/news/ssha-razognali-raketu-do-giperzvukovoy-skorosti-no-sbit-eyo-mozhet-dazhe-sovetskiy-zrk-s-300

[Nikolaevich I]

Quote: OrangeBigg

They are trying to create an analogue of our X-32, only the X-32 has long been tested and is in service with the Russian Aerospace Forces

Actually, one should not confuse "a fork with a bottle" ... The X-32 develops a speed of 4M-4,5M ... If the X-32 can be called "near-hypersonic", then it is hardly hypersonic! In addition, a liquid-propellant engine is installed on the Kh-32, which imposes certain restrictions on the efficiency of the Kh-32 ...

[Orange bigg]

Well, what don't you like? The speed of the X-32 is up to 5400 km / h.

.Tactical and technical data of the KR X-32 Guidance system: ARGSN and autocorrelation GISU. Engine: 2-chamber rocket engine, nuclear warhead TK-56. Range up to 1000 km. Speed ​​up to 5400 km / h. Flight altitude up to 40000 m / dive to the target. Launch altitude up to 13000 m. Starting weight 5780 kg. Length 11,65 m. Hull diameter 0,92 m. Wingspan 3,0 m. Wing area 4,48 sq. M.

Content source: https://naukatehnika.com/kryilataya-raketa-x-32.html
naukatehnika.com

What is the difference between the X-32 and its predecessor and what is known about it from open sources? The X-32 is almost completely identical in appearance to the X-22, with a few exceptions. However, the "insides" of the missiles are very different. The X-32 uses a significantly improved starting and sustainer engine. The starting engine now allows you to "lift" the rocket after launch to an altitude of about 40 (!) Kilometers. At this altitude, the air density is about the same as the density of the Martian atmosphere and the rocket practically does not encounter air resistance, which makes it possible to dramatically increase both the speed and range of flight. Apparently, it was possible to increase the thrust of the main engine. Reportedly, the speed of the X-32 has increased to 5400 km / h - more than 5M! The range of application, according to various estimates, is from 600 to 1000 kilometers. But even with a range of 600 kilometers, this is more than enough to strike a potential enemy's AUG, being beyond the reach of not only the most "long-range" shipborne air defense systems, but also carrier-based fighters. At the same time, most of the X-32's flight takes place at an altitude unattainable for any anti-aircraft missiles.

A separate problem is to provide target designation for Kh-32 missiles when fired at long range. With a "working" flight altitude of the Tu-22M3 of about 10 kilometers, the radio horizon for an onboard search radar will be about 360 kilometers. At the same time, for firing at the maximum flight range, sufficiently accurate target designation is required, which can only be obtained from other means. However, the capabilities of modern control and data exchange systems make it possible to significantly simplify the process of receiving and transmitting target designation to the strike group. In addition, the altitude of the Kh-32 provides a gigantic radio horizon for its seeker, which is over 700 kilometers, which exceeds the detection range of the missile's seeker targets. Thus, the Kh-32 can successfully find a target even with extremely "rough" target designation. In addition, as reported, the GOS X-32 has the ability to correct the trajectory in flight, in case of update by the carrier aircraft or some other "source" of target data.

https://dfnc.ru/c106-technika/chto-predstavlyaet-soboj-novaya-protivokorabelnaya-krylataya-raketa-h-32/


Quoting from my link above where the HAWC speed is about 6200 km / h.

... “The United States has tested hypersonic air-jet weapons capable of five times the speed of sound in the first successful test of this class of weapon since 2013,” the Pentagon said on Monday. Free flight tests of the hypersonic air weapon concept (HAWC) took place last week, the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (DARPA) said in a statement. Hypersonic weapons travel in the upper atmosphere at more than five times the speed of sound, or about 6200 kilometers per hour, "Reuters news agency reported.

The speed indicator was borderline to the hypersonic speed. That is, it is also a "near-hypersonic" rocket, also in the final flight phase it accelerates to near-hypersonic speed, like the Kh-32.

For the first time since the development of hypersonic weapons, the American military managed to accelerate the missile to 5 speeds of sound. This indicates that the United States, as part of the tests, were successfully able to approach the creation of hypersonic weapons. Nevertheless, apparently, the speed indicator was borderline, in addition, sources report that at the final stage of testing, control over the missile was lost and it was never able to hit the conditional target.

But the X-32 was brought to mind and put into service, and HAWC still has problems with this.

[Bez 310]

Quote: OrangeBigg

With a "working" flight altitude of the Tu-22M3 of about 10 kilometers, the radio horizon for an onboard search radar will be about 360 kilometers.

Enough to drag this nonsense here!
Even the 60-ies EN-D radar, installed on the Tu-16,
had a detection range for a cruiser-type target
- 440 km. I saw the shore myself, on my return from the ocean,
at a distance of 400 km without any problems.
And with the Kh-32, everything is not at all simple ...

[Orange bigg]

Quote: Bez 310

Quote: OrangeBigg

With a "working" flight altitude of the Tu-22M3 of about 10 kilometers, the radio horizon for an onboard search radar will be about 360 kilometers.

Enough to drag this nonsense here!
Even the 60-ies EN-D radar, installed on the Tu-16,
had a detection range for a cruiser-type target
- 440 km. I saw the shore myself, on my return from the ocean,
at a distance of 400 km without any problems.
And with the Kh-32, everything is not at all simple ...

Did you want to say not everything so unambiguously?

[Bez 310]

Not even at all unambiguous!

[Orange bigg]

Quote: Bez 310

Not even at all unambiguous!

As required to prove. Another daughter of a Crimean officer.

[Nikolaevich I]

Regarding your links ... you could have used the materials of a not entirely conscientious author ... Here, for example, what is said about the speed of the X-32 in one of the articles ... Speed: 3,5M-4.6M (4000km / h-5400k / m or 1100m / s-1500m / s) ...

[Bez 310]

Quote: OrangeBigg

They are trying to create an analogue of our X-32

Don't copy any nonsense from one of the most inauthentic sites out there.

[Orange bigg]

Seriously, tell me what delivery sites you know.

[Bez 310]

Really!
I will not tell you.

[Orange bigg]

Quote: Bez 310

Really!
I will not tell you.

Because you don’t know them. And if you are given sources and you don’t like something, then you immediately say that this is an unreliable source. And you don’t know the delivered sources from your own words. Otherwise, why not tell me if you do you know the sources?

[Flanker692]

These are different missiles in terms of size, launch vehicles, and even the principle of operation. ARRW tests the Air Force, does Lockheed. HAWC tests the Navy, does Raeton. They have other projects of hypersonic missiles of different sizes and bases.

[Flanker692]

HAWC on a naval F-35C (animation).

ARRW on B-52:

[Cowbra]

Quote from Flanker692

HAWC on a naval F-35C (animation).

The Hypersonic Air-breathing Weapon Concept (HAWC) vehicle developed under a partnership of the Air Force and the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency

And they write that it is the Air Force. Read an article in general, for example, drive it into a translator, there is such a twist-twist ... In general, this HAWC was recorded as a continuation of the Rockwell X-30))) And it is still a supersonic GLIDER, so it will not be round, like on "animation" maybe The point is that there is vermicelli - just hanging in kilograms, straight with a shovel

[rocket757]

US Air Force successfully tests HAWC (Hypersonic Air-Air Weapon Concept) hypersonic missile

They will finish it in the end ... there will be another killer piece in the huge arsenal of everything else ...
The question is, what will change from that?

[Adimius38]

all right to finish-finish. The USA is the only power in the world today. They have a colossal advantage in production capacity, financing and highly developed scientific and technical potential.

[rocket757]

Quote: Adimius38

The USA is the only power in the world today.

But this is already in question ... they have competitors.

[Adimius38]

competitors are always and everywhere, but this does not put them in the first place

[rocket757]

Time will tell who is standing and where.

[DmSol]

This is a dogma. Much of its engineering and manufacturing capabilities have been dumped by the United States to please lawyers and brokers. For fun, you can look at Musk's suffering when he tried to move the mass production of batteries to the United States in the wake of Trump's rise to power. All these numbers are based on the ability to outbid a foreign company and redraw the checkbox on the "owner" tab

[Adimius38]

it would be better not to talk about profuked, otherwise you can recall how much Russia profuked after the collapse of the USSR and not only.

[DmSol]

Why should I "remind" about Russia if you started about the United States? With this logic, I can remind you of ancient Egypt, for example.

[DmSol]

How "what will change"? The preemptive disarming strike strategy may change.

[rocket757]

Quote: DmSol

The preemptive disarming strike strategy may change.

The strategies were, are and will be ... as well as the knowledge / understanding that the response will fly and FLY will not seem like a little.

[bars1]

Something about Zircon has not been heard for a long time ...

[Peak]

Quote: bars1

Something about Zircon has not been heard for a long time ...

You will not please - then "from every iron, tired of" , then - "not heard for a long time"...

[Stepan S]

Something about Zircon has not been heard for a long time ...

Well, this is not the hero of the show on the central channels, so that news about her would be released every day.

[Dikson]

But quite recently it seemed that we were five years ahead of the Americans in this matter .. But then suddenly (quite recently, if you remember), some person (oddly enough, working on this topic) was accused of espionage .. and now .. we have what we have. And in terms of the number of supposed carriers, we can't catch up with the state people .. In general, another corner has opened in Pandora's box ..

[Barberry25]

well, you can crawl to the cemetery .. although for topvar experts it is a sheer pleasure to be happy for others ..

[Dikson]

After you, sweetie .. or are you a flower? Just don’t forget to put on a patriotic cap .. where did you see joy in my message ?!

[Barberry25]

yes, in your message, as soon as something happens in the West in the style of "they did" .. so that's it ... "oh, they could, oh they caught up, oh everything" ... you would react better to messages when something happens in Russia, otherwise you won't wait ... and yes, if I have a "patriotic cap", then you obviously have cowards with an American flag, Mr. Expert

[Dikson]

I react when something good happens to us .. How else could it be? It is foolish to deny and not notice the successes of the alleged and obvious enemy .. It is necessary to watch the enemy. And underestimating it is more expensive for yourself, and as it happened in our history you probably know .. Here on the site it was not mentioned for some reason that a week or two ago, about, finally, they covered up the design of our heavy rocket - "Yenisei" .. One and a half billion rubles for "technical sketches" ... and - down the drain .. And now they have approved new 1,7 lard - for new drawings dedicated to the Lunar program. You can rejoice for the artists and designers ... Agree, it is foolish to hope that the West will sit with folded legs and watch our successes in the field of armaments? While we clap their hands, they will invest in projects .. And they have orders of magnitude more money than we do ... And there are products in which money and technology decide, not political or patriotic ambitions ..

[Barberry25]

and RosKosmos is aware that the Yenisei is closed? and yes .. "drawings for 1,7 billion" .. 5 points ..

[Dikson]

At least, the director of the Progress RCC, a certain Dmitry Baranov, is well aware of this if he made such a statement to RIA Novosti .. according to him, the RCC "stopped the technical design of the heavy carrier." ..

[Flanker692]

There they covered, to be more precise, not the entire Yenisei, but only the first stage. Roskosmos realized that kerosene engines are not as promising for interplanetary flights as methane ones, and it makes no sense to pull them any further. It's good that you decided, it's bad that it's so late. Commenting on Rogozin's management style is a separate story.

[Bez 310]

Here you go...
Our advantage ends quickly, which is to be expected.

[Prisoner]

I remember how my father taught me to drive a healthy nail into an oak post. He hammered in one out of eight. The others doubled over. But one did hammer in and it was a success. It reminds me of something. ps For a long time there is no daddy, he himself is already a beginner old man, but as it did not work to nail down at least half, it still does not work.

[bars1]

After Putin's statements about the "hypersonic" Dagger in the presence of a scramjet in Zircon, I doubt it.

[AML]

Quote: military_cat

Quote: AML

We poured a bucket of gunpowder into the drainpipe and forward.

This "Dagger" works like that. And HAWC works on the GPRVD.

Yes, even on the remedy for cockroaches. The dagger is already flying and striking. Fast, cheap and cheerful.

[Momento]

in terms of cheap I would argue.
the moment-31 is aging and the resource will be depleted in the not distant future. new instant-31 will not be. their support will only get more expensive. in the same place everything is from the mid-80s and nothing is produced anymore.
you can probably remake the dagger for something else, but as I understand it, the moment-31 was chosen because of the speed ... that is, it will not be easy to transfer to another carrier. and if you transfer the cheapest one, leave it just an Iskander. it is accurate and cheaper and more efficient - at least if it is positioned against the pro in Eastern Europe.

[AML]

With all the latest promising technologies, the American military-industrial complex has been screwed up. How did you decide that this time will be different?

[Ros 56]

And what, the striped is the first hypersonic missile ???