Polish press: Russia uses the situation with the Taliban coming to power in Afghanistan to strengthen its military presence in Central Asia

The Polish press is discussing the CSTO summit, which is taking place in the capital of the Republic of Tajikistan. As it turned out, Polish experts are worried about the "physical absence" of Russian President Vladimir Putin at the summit. Based on this, all sorts of conspiracy theories are being built regarding the format of the meeting of the member states of the Collective Security Treaty Organization, as well as Putin's decision to participate in the summit in the format of a video conference.

In particular, the Polish observer Adam Gaafar states that the Taliban status (* a terrorist group banned in Russia) is a difficult problem for most countries of the world, and for Russia in particular. Gaafar writes that one of the main issues discussed at the CSTO summit is the Afghan topic. At the same time, the Polish author states that “Moscow and the allies have already decided what to do with the Taliban and that“ Moscow is taking advantage of the situation in its own interests. ”

The Polish press notes that the Russian Federation "uses the situation with the Taliban * coming to power in Afghanistan to strengthen its military presence in Central Asia."

Adam Gaafar:

It should be recalled that after the Taliban * came to power in Afghanistan, the Russian military declared their readiness for any scenario in the south. Now, at the CSTO summit, they agreed on military reinforcement on the southern borders of the CSTO, on arming the troops present there with modern weapons.

The Polish author points to the criticism that came from the lips of the Russian president to the United States and NATO about the chaos that arose during the withdrawal of military contingents from Afghanistan.

In Poland, they believe that Russia and China (the CSTO is not included) "are trying to take advantage of the situation with the" bad organization "of the US operation in order to increase their capabilities in the Afghan direction."

Comments

[Nexcom]

... without the opinion of the Poles, everyone can’t live without the opinion of the Poles ...

[Gardamir]

I wonder how the government influences the topics created in the HE?

[Volodin]

Quote: Gardamir

I wonder how the government influences the topics created in the HE?

I will answer. Only shhh ... no one, no one ... Directly affects. We receive directives from the government (every day is different: Polish, Israeli, Ukrainian, American, German, domestic). And all topics, naturally, come out under the influence of these directives. And next to each author sits a major, carefully reading, whether he missed the news from the Ukrainian or Polish expert.

[Nexcom]

yeah, but if the comment is not to their taste, they immediately send a pack of minusers. exactly, exactly.
so to speak, they destroy morally.

[Shurik70]

RF uses the situation

And this is good.
There is no waste in politics. Resources only.
And from any situation it is necessary to derive benefit.
Benefit for yourself, your allies and friends.
And harm to enemies, adversaries, and non-friends.
The one who copes better with this is the best politician.

[Gardamir]

We receive directives from the government (every day is different: Polish, Israeli, Ukrainian, American, German,

I believe you. I just doubt that the directives come from the Russian.
According to the logic of 50-70 percent, there should be topics about Russia. And foreign news should be news, and not what the minister of Ukraine and Poland has picked out. In this regard, I recall the Soviet program Vremya, where the minimum was allocated to international news.

[Volodin]

Quote: Gardamir

According to the logic of 50-70 percent, there should be topics about Russia

If this topic is "not about Russia", then you have not read it well. Very bad

[Gardamir]

This is the opinion of the Poles. And the audience of commentators creates the impression of being involved in high society. You can make fun of the Poles, you can say "but I would do so."
The topic of Russia is, for example, the creation of million-plus cities. Or, for example, the discussion of the development of the Kuril Islands is Russia, but the statement of some Toyama Tokanawa is about nothing.

[LiSiCyn]

Quote: Nexcom

without the opinion of the Poles, everyone can’t live without the opinion of the Poles ...

No, well, in principle, the correct opinion ... We really, try to take advantage of the situation. But what will come of this ..?

[Nexcom]

hmm, and who, let me ask you, in geopolitics does not try to use suitable situations? we are talking about something else - the Poles with their opinion climb everywhere and everywhere. and, frankly, tired. I am so on their opinion somehow purple and in parallel. I am interested in the opinion of the partners of our state and those interacting with our state. Poles, on the other hand, have traditionally become famous for their barking at the address of the Russian Federation. it was this approach that made them tired. therefore their opinion is not particularly interesting.

[faiver]

it is about something else - the Poles with their opinion climb everywhere and everywhere.

- remember the Soviet cartoon "Mowgli", there was an animal named Tabaki ...

[Hagalaz]

Well, whoever is capable of some kind of action, he acts. It would be foolish in this situation to be able to do nothing.
And to those who are on the sidelines and who, by and large, are practically impotent, the only thing that remains is to express an opinion about other people's actions.

[Orange bigg]

The Polish press notes that the Russian Federation "uses the situation with the Taliban * coming to power in Afghanistan to strengthen its military presence in Central Asia."

A very strange conclusion: Pakistan is behind the Taliban.

After the Taliban formed a government, the last doubts disappeared that this movement, which came to power in Afghanistan, is controlled from Pakistan. The government was formed only after the arrival in Kabul on September 4 of the head of Pakistan's ISI, Lieutenant General Faiz Hamid; in fact, it was formed by the head of Pakistani intelligence.

.Why Afghanistan needs Pakistan - it is understandable. Pakistan is at enmity with India, and Afghanistan is turning into the deep rear of the Pakistani army, where you can hire tens of thousands of poorly trained, but brave and fanatical fighters for little money. Control over Afghanistan allows Islamabad to put pressure on unfriendly Iran, as well as to suppress any attempts by Tajikistan and Uzbekistan to play some role in the north of the country. Well, and in the long term - Afghan natural resources (oil, gas, lithium, lapis lazuli, emeralds, iron and copper), which will not at all interfere with the growth of the Pakistani economy. Plus super-cheap, albeit unskilled, labor force.

... The Taliban for the ISI is a consumable designed to ensure Pakistan's control over the backward Afghan tribes. And al-Qaeda is a kind of global special forces, striking where Pakistan needs it.

What happened? The United States got involved in a 20-year war in Afghanistan, which a priori cannot be won. By the way, they left in Pakistan a huge part of the trillions spent on the war. And they "lost face" before the Muslim world. And Pakistan acquired it. And when the Americans nevertheless decided to leave Afghanistan, ISI with an iron fist returned the Taliban to their former positions - to establish in Afghanistan the order that Pakistan needs.

Control over the Taliban and Afghanistan is important to Pakistan for another reason. The mountainous regions of Pakistan's Federal Tribal Areas are controlled by the local Taliban (Tehrik-e Taliban Pakistan, CCI). This group appeared in 2007, after the Pakistani army tried to clean out the detachments of al-Qaeda, IS, Chechen, Uyghur, Uzbek extremists and uncontrolled Afghan Taliban, who retreated from Afghanistan under the blows of American troops. Local tribal groups refused to hand over their "brothers in the faith", declared themselves Pakistani Taliban and put up desperate resistance to the troops. A war ensued, which ended in a draw: some of the territories are still controlled by the Chamber of Commerce and Industry.

Ideologically, the CCI differs from the Afghan Taliban only in its extreme "frostbite": it fights against Pakistan as a secular state, calls for the conquest and Islamization of India, threatens Myanmar and sends militants to Syria. The Chamber's relations with the Afghan Taliban are complicated: the Chamber of Commerce and Industry swore allegiance to the head of the Taliban, Mullah Omar, but refused to cooperate with Pakistan. The CCI units fought shoulder to shoulder with Afghan like-minded people against the Americans, and after the defeat of 2001 the Afghan Taliban sat out and gained strength under the wing of the CCI.

American drones, Pakistani aviation and special forces have killed thousands of CCI militants and about 200 leaders, but have failed to either destroy or control the movement. The CCI detachments numbering 30-50 thousand militants and several hundred thousand militias still control large territories.


Islamabad made so many efforts to take control of the Afghan Taliban because its unification with the CCI, close in all respects, would mean the creation of a huge Pashtunistan, which would become a threat to the very existence of Pakistan.

Why does Pakistan need the Taliban and Afghanistan, mentioned above. Why global special forces in the person of al-Qaeda and IS?

. The strategic goal of Pakistan is the defeat and absorption of India, the transformation of the entire Hindustan into Pakistan. For this purpose, Pakistan fought four times with India. For her sake, Pakistan supports not only Islamist terrorist groups waging a war against India, but also Maoists - Naxalis fighting in the jungles of East India, Sikh, Assamese, Manipur and other separatists.

All of the above does not mean that India is a country of peace-loving angels. Indians have been supporting the Balochi guerrilla movement for many years, terrorizing both Pakistani and Iranian parts of Baluchistan. India has also developed nuclear weapons, and is not behaving peacefully towards Pakistan. But this is a retaliatory aggressiveness: how else can India behave if Pakistan has openly threatened its very existence since its inception?

Pakistan, which developed nuclear weapons in 1998, has a superpower ambition. It became the most powerful Muslim country, and Islamabad, long before their creation, called its nuclear weapons not Pakistani, but Islamic atomic bombs. In the opinion of a significant part of the Pakistani elite, it is their country that has the most reason to become the center of the Islamic world: it is the only one on the planet, deliberately created by Muslims who separated from the "infidels" (the rest of the Muslim states were created on a historical and national basis). Saudi Arabia, also claiming leadership, is ruled by a national dynasty that has no right to rule over other peoples; Egypt tried to play the role of the leader of the Arab and Muslim world under H.A. Nasser, but was repeatedly beaten by the most hated of enemies - Israel; Turkey is a nation-state, and huge Indonesia is a secular country, which is also much inferior to Pakistan in terms of development.

After Pakistan acquired nuclear weapons, the West, and especially the United States, imposed tough sanctions against it. Moreover, after the collapse of the USSR, India, which was Moscow's ally, began to improve relations with the West, and - oh, horror for Pakistan! - with Israel. Pakistan's relations with the United States, very close until 1998, collapsed. China remained a strong ally of Islamabad, but this is a forced alliance: Pakistan does not want to depend on communist and non-Muslim China at all.

https://zen.yandex.ru/media/id/5c2bb5cbea039800abdc8fd6/pakistan-kak-ugroza-6140ee024301173ee00e97a3

[Vend]

Of course, Russia will use this to its advantage, we need peace on the border. The USA and EB had a chance, but they were not smart enough.

[Vladimir_2U]

Russia uses the situation with the Taliban coming to power in Afghanistan

Well, that's wonderful, stop clicking your beak! Moreover, our coat of arms has two!

[Nexcom]

can you imagine what scale of clicking will be if you click in TWO beaks ...
this is clearly not permissible!

[Vladimir_2U]

Quote: Nexcom

can you imagine what clicks will be if you click in TWO beaks ...

And what is there to imagine, before the second Chechen war it was just that.

[Egoza]

"Moscow is taking advantage of the situation to its advantage."

Why not use it? Who's stopping you from using it too? What? Are the little hands too short? Well, envy in silence!

[Pravodel]

RF uses the situation ..

Interestingly, isn't Poland using the situation of the Banderlog coming to power in Ukraine to its advantage ?! Not trying to build the 2nd Rzeczpospolita "from Mozha to Mozha"? !!!

[NDR-791]

Well, what did the psheki want ??? Themselves gone, themselves vicious Buratins. And now there is nothing to bark from behind the stove. Here you are not there !!!
In 2014, the reduction of troops began, and by June 10, 2014, the Polish contingent was largely withdrawn from Afghanistan. In June 2020, the strength of the Polish military contingent was 350 troops.
On June 30, 2021, Poland completed the evacuation (large drape) of troops and participation in the operation.

[Prisoner]

Why not use it, since there is such an opportunity? To the Poles, what's the matter? Let them sit on the priest exactly when the gentlemen divide the world.

[rocket757]

Polish press: Russia uses the situation with the Taliban coming to power in Afghanistan to strengthen its military presence in Central Asia

And what is wrong?
HeHemon did it, ran away, and a place without supervision, control, should not remain !!!
In one form or another, admissible, of course ...
And those who are rich, just to bite ... you can't expect more from them.

In Poland, they believe that Russia and China (the CSTO is not included) "are trying to take advantage of the situation with the" bad organization "of the US operation,

Yes, it is now called that ... not a shameful drap, but just a "bad organization" ???

[tihonmarine]

Quote: rocket757

HeHemon screwed up, ran away, and a place without supervision, control, should not remain !!

A holy place is never empty.

[Andobor]

Quote: rocket757

not a shameful drape, but just a "bad organization" ???

From the point of view of Biden, this is generally a brilliantly organized operation - the planes did not fall, for this he had to meet with the "killer", and load the Nord Stream with it.
Russia not only took advantage of the situation, it created it through Pakistan, establishing powerful military-technical cooperation,
first by slamming the US in Afghanistan, and through this cauldron controlling the Taliban, of course with all interested neighbors.

[rocket757]

Quote: Andobor

From Biden's point of view, this is generally a brilliantly organized operation,

Well, yes, exactly THAT! They are still in the textbooks on ... on something there, this "operation" will be entered and ...
Okay, the military, all the same, think, reason, should be more / less sensible! They are not politicians, they walk on the ground, and not hover in the clouds ... at least, a significant part of them.

[Andobor]

Quote: rocket757

Well, yes, exactly THAT! They are still in the textbooks on ... on something there, this "operation" will be entered and ...

Yes, to scrape from the boiler, with minimal losses, the main thing is that the planes did not fall in batches, and the fact that Afghans were falling is the problem of politicians. The operation is really brilliant. And the boiler Russia, China, Pakistan, Iran organized India buns promised - everyone there is happy, the Taliban are now in the same boiler,
they will behave badly - they will cook in the same place - everything around is blocked.
They don't, but the Pakistanis are not even hiding;
https://youtu.be/XcTecfT-KKY

[rocket757]

Quote: Andobor

everything around is blocked.

So they weren't really eager from the outside ... now they need help from the outside, that's a fact. Stripes left, after themselves, devastation everywhere.

[Andobor]

Quote: rocket757

now they need help from outside, it is a fact.

Yes, this is a lever of control over the behavior of the Taliban, will misbehave,
they will cook in a cauldron even without war. China is ready to invest, Uzbekistan, Tajikistan mainly supply electricity, their production is at least. And if the world gets better, global projects there will catch up.

[rocket757]

Quote: Andobor

And if the world gets better, global projects there will catch up.

For now, for now, everyone who wants something is acting very carefully ...

[Andobor]

Quote: rocket757

For now, for now, everyone who wants something is acting very carefully ...

Yes, the Taliban are an organization banned in Russia.

[aszzz888]

Polish press: Russia uses the situation with the Taliban coming to power in Afghanistan to strengthen its military presence in Central Asia

Of course, not to "strengthen" NATO. Pshechnya now would think about the upcoming winter without gas, but they are as in unnecessary - to spite my mother I will burn down the house.

[rotmistr60]

Russia and China (not a member of the CSTO) "are trying to take advantage of the situation with the" bad organization "of the US operation in order to increase their capabilities in the Afghan direction."

It would be strange if Russia did not take advantage of the situation in its favor. Another thing is that the Poles, as always, are most concerned about Russia, and not about their internal problems and the problems that have arisen through Poland's fault in the EU.

[Vladimir61]

the Polish author states that "Moscow and the allies have already decided what to do with the Taliban and that" Moscow is taking advantage of the situation "

That is, Moscow and its allies are making the wrong decisions, since this is not in the interests of the pshek and other comrades. And in Central Asia, who is interested in the fact that somewhere there is Poland and other gay Europeans?

[alystan]

As it turned out, Polish experts are worried about the "physical absence" of Russian President Vladimir Putin at the summit.

So he stayed closer to you in order to finish the exercises normally, and instead of himself sent the dad to Dushanbe, like from the Union State and one representative will be enough. :))
They are worried, you see! And we are worried about "are you well worried there?"

[SKVichyakow]

For me, the biggest problem is the status of Poland. Is it an independent state, or is it a seal for the United States?

[Alexey Kurilov_4]

It is more interesting to know what people think about it in Burkina Faso