Israeli defense concern unveils "future" assault rifles

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An Israeli company engaged in the development and modernization of various weapons (Elbit Systems) announced the development of an integrated artificial intelligence (AI) system in assault rifles. The created computer system interacts with the rifle's electro-optical sight or with an eyepiece mounted on a helmet. The original name of the innovation is ARCAS (AI-Powered, Computerized Solution for Assault Rifles).

Artificial intelligence analyzes the environment and provides soldiers with clear information in real time.



Elbit Systems Development Turns Assault Rifles Into Smart weapon, allowing to gradually increase the lethality, the effectiveness of the tasks assigned and the survivability of the infantry in various conditions.

The built-in artificial intelligence system gives the user such combat capabilities that were previously not available. Among them are: measuring the range to the target, automatic ballistic correction of the bullet flight, detecting the point of firing, determining the direction of movement of the target, the ability to fire from around the corner and from the hip, built-in friend or foe system, tracking the number of those remaining in the store ammunition.

Israeli defense concern unveils "future" assault rifles


It looks like this: an artificial intelligence computer is built into the front grip of an assault rifle, working with innovative software and a number of applications. A miniature computing device receives and processes data collected from the fighter's field of view. Then tactical information is transmitted to the control center, where data collected also from other users of the upgraded weapon is displayed on the screen.

Combat information is presented to the soldier in the form of augmented reality through an electro-optical sight or eyepiece mounted on a rifle.

Soldiers will be able to control their weapons in augmented reality using a joystick located on the front grip of the rifle and a graphical user interface. The interface designers were inspired by the virtual world.

Oren Sabag - CEO of Elbit Systems - commented on the new development:
ARCAS is another important solution for soldiers operating in the field. The development of ARCAS is part of our ongoing efforts and investment in research

The company has already named the weapon
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  1. +6
    10 September 2021 13: 49
    - Probably an AI-based targeting complex - a rifle can be anything ...
    1. +6
      10 September 2021 13: 53
      Quote: saygon66
      - Probably an AI-based targeting complex - a rifle can be anything ...

      Quite right. Then, let's be honest, that such sights are still insanely expensive and they can only be purchased for elite special forces.
      1. +29
        10 September 2021 14: 07
        There is no AI yet ... All this is PR and the result of mass stupefaction of people ... Firstly, there is no concept of AI, there are no clear definitions, world generally accepted standards, criteria ... Secondly, with the development of information technologies, they have increased dramatically the possibilities of automatic control systems of various levels ... Systems become self-adjusting due to the use of a library of algorithms that can be selected depending on the conditions and tasks to be solved. But this is not AI ... These are advanced control and management systems of a very high level !!! Stupid politicians, unlike techies, have come up with another fairy tale and "feed" this nonsense to everyone ...
        1. -1
          10 September 2021 14: 29
          "No AI exists yet." ///
          ---
          You are 15 years behind.
          AI is self-learning specialized software that writes
          the program code for itself (without the participation of programmers)
          right during the task.
          Programmers write only the original starting move.
          For example 100,000 lines.
          After the first run, the software will have 150,000 lines.
          The program added 50 thousand by itself.
          Such a "mature" AI will already have (for example) 1 million lines of code.
          And he can crush the champions in Go or chess, or confidently lead
          air combat on a fighter - depending on the initial focus of the tasks.
          1. +6
            10 September 2021 14: 36
            Another agitator has drawn! And most importantly, how beautiful and clever, at first glance, it writes and looks like the truth ... Chess, wow ... Kindergarten ... But there is a completely studied process, and if this condition is not met, and if the mathematical model not accurate, or is it changing? Or the initial conditions do not correspond to the given ones ... Huh?
            1. +4
              10 September 2021 14: 49
              Without any mathematical model. Exactly how it works
              the human brain is without any models. smile
              There is:
              1) copying the behavior of the "opponent",
              2) optimization after copying
              3) play ahead of the curve after optimization.

              Whatever the opponent does, the AI:
              1) remember
              2) will try to repeat,
              3) will clarify during the repetition
              4) will speed up the execution.
              1. +4
                10 September 2021 14: 54
                2) will try to repeat,
                3) will clarify during the repetition
                4) will speed up the execution.

                To accomplish this, a mathematical model is needed in the system, it must be checked against the memorized events for compliance and, if necessary, clarified, it is necessary to clarify the control algorithm or actions in accordance with the task, then simulate the situation, get the desired result .. And only then proceed to control! And all this in almost real time! Can you imagine the amount of calculations in the system and the required performance? And all this on board the plane, for example ...
                A high-level pilot spends 0,17 sec on assessing a non-standard situation, making a decision and responding in the form of a specific action? This is where the $ million for tuition goes ...
                1. +5
                  10 September 2021 17: 20
                  Quote: Volkof
                  High level pilot

                  Lost in dry air combat simulation against AI.
                  Moreover, REPEATEDLY.
                  1. +2
                    10 September 2021 19: 39
                    No need for emotions, you are being deceived, and very rudely .... Firstly, pi_ndos do not fight in close combat, or rather avoid him in every possible way .... And what are they trying to push you to? Secondly, the experience is not correct according to the incoming data ... The computer has complete information in a maneuvering battle about the state and position of the simulated enemy, this does not happen in life ... Imagine that you are playing cards with an opponent who sees your combinations, but you don’t ... The comparison is rough, but if you look at it, it’s very similar ... In a real maneuverable battle, the enemy does not have such information, you are offered to play "tanks" with a dishonest enemy with mods who sees all the enemy tanks ... This is a video for the gray inhabitants ...
                    1. +2
                      10 September 2021 20: 10
                      "Firstly, pi_ndos do not fight in close combat, or rather avoid it in every possible way." ///
                      ---
                      Totally wrong.
                      The Americans have created special "enemy squadrons"
                      where the best reservist pilots, former aces-instructors are selected.
                      And it is close-quarters fighting - "dog dumps" that train.
                      They study the tactics of close battles of the Russians and the Chinese.
                      And often these "reds" destroy the pilots of the regular squadrons.

                      As for the air combat of the pilot against the AI, you are also very mistaken.
                      AI computer unknown position and condition of the enemy pilot's computer.
                      Each computer has only sensors, simulators his radar and
                      IR sight (copies of F-16 devices for both).
                      The AI ​​computer makes a decision about its actions based on the totality of its sensors.
                      He does not know about the actions of the enemy's computer.
                      AI won because it copied and was always ahead of the enemy
                      (a computer makes decisions thousands of times faster than a person).
                      When such an AI program is installed on combat aircraft, it will be
                      sunset of the profession of a military pilot. Zero chances against the computer.
                      1. +1
                        10 September 2021 20: 19
                        The US Air Force launched the X-62A project, similar to the base of these simulated battles. Simplified, the F-16 is equipped with Skyborg hardware and software. They make unmanned full-fledged fighters out of them, not only targets like the QF-16.
                        https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/41779/f-16-testbed-becomes-an-x-plane-ahead-of-work-on-air-forces-skyborg-ai-computer-brain
                      2. +2
                        10 September 2021 20: 22
                        Well, just fabulous ... The F35 was made for close maneuverable combat? Of course not ... By design, due to stealth, he earlier detects the enemy and launches missiles, or transmit information to other aircraft, without detecting his presence ...
                        Each computer has only sensors, simulators of its own radar and
                        IR sight (copies of F-16 devices for both).

                        Did you understand what you said yourself? No dear, the parameters are removed from the enemy's model, at best, their number is limited, which I personally strongly doubt! And you are very confidently told the nonsense that you voiced ...
                      3. +3
                        10 September 2021 20: 28
                        "Was the F35 made for close maneuvering combat?" ///
                        ---
                        Neither the F-22 nor the F-35 were made for close combat.
                        But the USAF regularly trains the pilots of these aircraft,
                        how to behave correctly in close combat. If I had to accept it.
                        And AI, like pilots, is trained primarily for close combat,
                        as the most risky and dangerous.

                        "No dear, the parameters are removed from the enemy model," ///
                        ----
                        No. Different AIs "fought" among themselves many times.
                        These are products from different competing firms.
                        They have different operating systems, different AI principles, different chips, different algorithms, different programming languages.
                        They fundamentally cannot understand each other.
                        What they have in common is only the same "eyes and ears" - simulators of eyes, radar and sights.
                        And based on the readings of these "eyes and ears" of its own, the AI ​​moved its
                        plane and launched missiles at the enemy.

                      4. +3
                        10 September 2021 20: 32
                        Quote: Volkof
                        The F35 was made for maneuverable close combat?

                        The penguin confidently "twists" all 4s in close maneuvering combat, except for Raphael, Eurofighter, Gripen, and Su-35. The results of battles with them will depend on the pilots.
                        Another question is stupid to go dogfight when you have total superiority at medium and long distances over the 4th generation. But they practice this type of battle on a weekly basis, more for fun, of course.
                        He has a lot of videos on his channel about this:
          2. +3
            10 September 2021 14: 48
            Quote: voyaka uh
            AI is self-learning specialized software that writes
            the program code for itself (without the participation of programmers)
            right during the task ...

            Alexey, are you hinting for Gridasov again? wassat
            1. +1
              10 September 2021 14: 55
              AI "Gridasov" - an example of AI aimed at participating in popular science
              discussions. This is a training program, grinding.
              This type of AI, for example, writes best-selling novels (with a dummy author), bringing large profits to software owners.
              There are AI - players, there are "pilots".
              But not all software is AI, of course. Most work with fixed software
              code written by humans.
          3. -3
            10 September 2021 14: 50
            You are 15 years behind.
            AI is self-learning specialized software that writes
            the program code for itself (without the participation of programmers)

            Do not make me laugh.
            Such a "mature" AI will already have (for example) 1 million lines of code.
            And he can crush the champions in Go or chess, or confidently lead
            air combat on a fighter - depending on the initial focus of the tasks.

            This is just a sequential enumeration of options)))
            This your AI with a banal captcha is not able to cope.
            Take an interest in how captcha puts any AI into a stupor.
            1. +4
              10 September 2021 14: 57
              "This is just a sequential enumeration of options)" ///
              ----
              No. There is no sequential enumeration of options.
              A completely different method.
          4. +4
            10 September 2021 15: 44
            That's bullshit. If we start from the classical concepts of intelligence / mind, then there is no AI, but there is an area of ​​study that led to the emergence of neural networks, which are now widely implemented, but they do not have intelligence. But here's a good video for you, not a topic where one of the leaders in creating neural networks discusses this topic.

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Te61Yqwd_Y&ab_channel=PROHi-Tech
          5. +10
            10 September 2021 16: 29
            Quote: voyaka uh
            Quote: Volkof
            No AI exists yet.
            You are 15 years behind.

            There is a holivar war of terminology in this area. "AI" VS "AI" VS "COVM" VS "***"Where
            ) III - True Artificial Intelligence (that is, identical to a person)
            ) SOCM - Self-Optimizing Computing Modules
            One of the reasons is that in different fields different and not identical formulations of the term "intelligence" are used, the three most famous:

            IT)intelligence is identical to efficiency, but it is identical to productivity - Well, tobish: there are two programs, A and B, B works twice as better than A, therefore B is twice as intelligent. (we replace "programs", with "grunts" and laugh laughing )

            education)intelligence is identical to education, and it is a set of knowledge

            biology \ anthropology) "intelligence is the ability to solve non-standard problems using non-standard methods"

            In my opinion, as a programmer, today, everything that has been created is a COMM, and has nothing to do with AI and / or AI, since it contradicts the fundamental basis of the concept of "intelligence". That is, in all neural networks, either methods or tasks are being standardized, or both, therefore, in principle, they cannot be intelligent (as for example, temperature cannot be measured in seconds, meters, forms).
          6. +1
            10 September 2021 19: 51
            This is you talking about neural networks, it works like that, but a neural network is not AI yet, because it will not be able to pass the Turing test. Before full-fledged AI, we are still like before Mars wassat
        2. 0
          10 September 2021 14: 29
          Quote: Volkof
          people ... Firstly, there is no concept of AI, there are no clear definitions, world generally accepted standards, criteria

          therefore, at this stage, it would be correct to consider artificial intelligence approaching human
          that is, to return to the original meaning of the term

          computer scientist John McCarthy at a seminar on artificial intelligence, Dartmouth College, USA, 1956:
          "We propose a study of artificial intelligence for a period of 2 months with the participation of 10 people. The study is based on the assumption that any property of intelligence can be so accurately described that a machine can simulate it. We will try to understand how to train machines to use natural languages, form abstractions and concepts, to solve problems that are now subject only to people, and to improve ourselves. "
        3. -1
          10 September 2021 17: 16
          Quote: Volkof
          No AI exists yet ...

          wassat wassat wassat
          1. +2
            10 September 2021 21: 46
            - "Moscow is different ... And there are infinitely many of them!" (WITH) wink
        4. +3
          10 September 2021 20: 09
          Quote: Volkof
          No AI exists yet ... All this is PR and the result of the massive stupefaction of people

          Do not be so categorical - this is just a distortion by journalists - we are, of course, talking about "AI elements" - they are implemented and used almost everywhere.
      2. -6
        10 September 2021 14: 12
        and they can only be purchased for elite special forces.


        Craft a Sapper Blade with AI. wink The main thing in a war is to dig and carry. Moreover, it is necessary to dig the White Sea-Baltic Canal, and drag the Cheops pyramid. Arrows "elite", sink into the soul.
    2. Maz
      -6
      10 September 2021 18: 23
      It's insanely expensive, difficult and you have to carry a bunch of batteries with you ... or a solar charger ... We must not forget to note that the Israeli army a week ago wrote off its notorious, such as cool and awesomely advertised and futuristic Tavor ( nickname - Iron) and decided to replace it with American M-4 carbines, well, like cheap, free, and good for a strategic ally ... Something of its own good quality, after the submachine gun still does not work, it comes out to the mountain or a clone of AK, or a clone of M-16. Shos there again happened with Jewish genius - probably sold to the Americans for m-4. Oh yes, I completely forgot, they still can't find six terrorists, that's how they will have a machine gun, as with prisoners in Gilboa prison - they will sell and buy. And the fate of Tavor confirms this. And there was something to be proud of, I remember how a dozen comrades from the Promised Land, foaming at the mouth, argued that Tabor was a breakthrough and a step forward. Now step back. It will be the same with this super crap, mark my words.
      1. +2
        10 September 2021 21: 38
        Quote: Maz
        We must not forget to note that a week ago the Israeli army wrote off its notorious, such as cool and awesomely advertised and futuristic Tavor (nickname - Iron) to the warehouses from the troops

        All your life has passed in lies and you continue to deceive decent people.
        I am here that you ALL know Liar!

        מערכת אתר צה"ל | 05.09.2021
        במסגרת עבודת מטה בנושא מיצוי מיטבי של נשקי המערך הלוחח הוחלט לצאת בימים אלה לרכש של כלי נשק נוספים מסוג תבור.

        כבר עשור שהתבור, נשק תוצרת כחול-לבן, משמש יחידות וחטיבות חי"ר רבות בצה"ל במגוון הגזרות, והוא יחולק ללוחמיםויי "אנחנו מאוד מרוצים מהיכולות שלו", אומרים במחלקת אמל"ח בזרוע היבשה, "הוא מספק ביצועים טובים מאוד, ומועציח אומתח
        כאמור, כחלק מעבודת המטה לטובת שימור הנשק בצה"ל, שנעשתה לאחרונה, יירכשו עוד תבורים: "הוא משמש את המערך הבוע שלנו המיי

        IDF website | 05.09.2021/XNUMX/XNUMX [/ b]
        As part of staff work on the optimal use of weapons of battle order, it was recently decided [b] to purchase additional Tavor-class weapons.

        For ten years, the tabor, a blue and white weapon, has been used by many IDF infantry units and brigades in various sectors, and it will be distributed to the relevant units in the army. "We are very pleased with his abilities," they say in the armament department of the ground forces, "he shows very good results and shows himself."
        As it was said, as part of the work of the headquarters for the preservation of weapons in the IDF, which was done recently, more Tabor will be purchased: “It is being used very effectively by our order of battle and will be used in the future. "
        https://www.idf.il/%D7%90%D7%AA%D7%A8%D7%99%D7%9D/%D7%96%D7%A8%D7%95%D7%A2-%D7%94%D7%99%D7%91%D7%A9%D7%94/2021/%D7%A6%D7%94%D7%9C-%D7%99%D7%95%D7%A6%D7%90-%D7%9C%D7%A8%D7%9B%D7%A9-%D7%A0%D7%95%D7%A1%D7%A3-%D7%A9%D7%9C-%D7%94%D7%90%D7%9E%D7%9C%D7%97-%D7%AA%D7%95%D7%A6%D7%A8%D7%AA-%D7%9B%D7%97%D7%95%D7%9C-%D7%9C%D7%91%D7%9F/
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      3. -2
        11 September 2021 13: 32
        Where does something really new come from?
        Its own fundamental science is not possible in principle, the size of the population is not the same, and it is not affordable ... Strong brains exported from the USSR in the 70-90s banally ended in terms of expiration date - in damp / dry earth / sand or in insanity ... Israel is aware of this and has been grieving for several years.
        Is that the Mossad where will snatch something on the occasion, the question is where, science in the Russian Federation is oh-oh-very different from that in the USSR ...
        And with "marketing management" these people have always had order, what's the difference what to sell in the bazaar, shoelaces or trunks with AI ...
        1. -2
          11 September 2021 16: 30
          you are right of course. Israel, unlike Russia, has never been able to develop a "shot, forget it." and drones, of course, are much worse - where would he with such a population. and by the way, it would be good for Israel to catch up with high-tech production. too bad in Israel with the release of such products. in comparison with Russia of course.
          1. 0
            11 September 2021 16: 55
            About a variety of high-tech and civilian and military drones, you will talk with Taiwan / China, they will laugh there ...
            And the bourgeois Russian Federation did not go far from Israel, and I did not cite it as an example, here, as in any bazaar: rolled back, work ...
    3. 0
      13 September 2021 10: 31
      I would like to see how this miracle will work in conditions of negative temperatures, humidity, dust
  2. +3
    10 September 2021 13: 50
    We inserted a couple of powerful crystals with sharpened software and the same .. AI. Where without it.
    1. +3
      10 September 2021 14: 07
      Quote: Troll
      We inserted a couple of powerful crystals with sharpened software and the same .. AI. Where without it.

      And if you add to it a pair of arms and legs connected by an exoskeleton, you get a cyborg that can be controlled from a distance, without losing manpower. The beauty.
  3. +2
    10 September 2021 13: 51
    "Smart" bombs, now "smart" rifles. I don't even want to think about the cost.
    We are waiting for a curved (with a nozzle) periscope small arms, with AI, of course.
  4. -1
    10 September 2021 13: 52
    And how will the AI ​​behave in the conditions of the enemy's electronic warfare? We'll have to use this "miracle" only in hand-to-hand combat due to
    corner?
    1. +4
      10 September 2021 14: 09
      Well, it is unlikely that the Palestinians have electronic warfare) and even if it did, it would not have worked for a long time. And as I understand it, a smart rifle is just part of a general combat system where all elements (aviation, artillery, etc.) are integrated with control from the main point. Such things are now trying to develop everything on the sly both in our country and in the USA.
    2. 0
      10 September 2021 14: 25
      Another thing is interesting - a computer on Android or on Windows? laughing
      1. +3
        10 September 2021 15: 00
        "for especially smart ones I repeat - a walkie-talkie on an armored personnel carrier" (c)
      2. +4
        10 September 2021 15: 03
        Quote: paul3390
        Another thing is interesting - a computer on Android or on Windows? laughing


        Most likely there will be its own nix-based OS.

        Israel had plans to develop a personal tactical computer (communications, target designation, positioning, etc.) for special forces, based on hardware from a smartphone, of course with changes, such as a more powerful case, a more capacious battery, an additional / different chip for communication, of course your software.

        In principle, the idea is very interesting, in the development of a smart phone, due to the fact that a huge market, great competition, huge funds have been invested. And now they are very advanced in terms of quality and performance to cost. For hardware, such a handicraft based on a smart phone will tear any special military development.

        Most likely, one can expect a commercial product from Israel - the outfit of the soldier of the future with all components from Bronnikov proper and camouflage to smart weapons, communications, control, etc.
      3. 0
        10 September 2021 18: 13
        On embedded Linux
      4. 0
        11 September 2021 20: 11
        On Windows it would be better not, otherwise it will freeze.
    3. +2
      10 September 2021 17: 00
      Quote: askort154
      And how will the AI ​​behave in the conditions of the enemy's electronic warfare? We'll have to use this "miracle" only in hand-to-hand combat due to
      corner?

      Disconnects and the rifle is applied in the usual way
    4. +4
      10 September 2021 17: 27
      Quote: askort154
      And how will the AI ​​behave in the conditions of the enemy's electronic warfare?

      Becomes autonomous. At most, network-centric functions will be disabled. The laser rangefinder, ballistic evacuator and, in general, all electro-optics will continue to operate normally.
      Your computer does not stop working when the Internet is disconnected. request
  5. +4
    10 September 2021 13: 53
    What happens when the batteries run out? My deep IMHO is to teach you to shoot from the open. Everything else is a nice optional addition to basic skills. For all this machinery in real conditions may not last long, but you still need to hit the enemy ..
    1. +3
      10 September 2021 13: 56
      Quote: paul3390
      but you still need to hit the enemy ..

      A.V. Suvorov - "Bullet is a fool, well done bayonet!" hi
    2. +3
      10 September 2021 17: 36
      Quote: paul3390
      My deep IMHO is to teach you to shoot from the open.

      And everyone does so. All these toys for professionals, no one will entrust the green cadet until he learns the "bare" trunk, like our father.
  6. -1
    10 September 2021 13: 54
    What if the battery runs out? recourse
  7. -3
    10 September 2021 13: 56
    the ability to fire from around the corner

    purely Jewish counter lol
    1. +6
      10 September 2021 14: 00
      Quote: novel xnumx
      the ability to fire from around the corner

      purely Jewish counter lol

      Absolutely.
  8. 0
    10 September 2021 14: 00
    allowing to gradually increase the lethality, efficiency
    Now, for sure, not a single young bastard throwing stones will get away from the bullet of the righteous man!
  9. -2
    10 September 2021 14: 04
    Israeli defense concern unveils "future" assault rifles

    What realism ... fellow especially when the enemy crumbles into pixels ... that's what progress means ... fellow
    ==========
    It is debatable that someone will level the terrain for this rifle. Yes, and "wipers" on the optics are not visible ... No.
    1. +1
      10 September 2021 14: 12
      And when the real war begins, everyone will get the Kalash and will definitely start riveting what is cheaper because devices are good. But it's expensive.
    2. +5
      10 September 2021 17: 47
      Quote: ROSS 42
      It is debatable that someone will level the terrain for this rifle.

      The same thing, the cavalrymen said about the first tanks.
      Progress cannot be stopped.
      1. Mwg
        -3
        11 September 2021 10: 35
        Progress is good. But there is one "BUT". Under conditions of combat (stress), manipulation of programs and programs is unlikely to be effective. Therefore, all useful features will remain unrealized potentials. By the example of all sorts of useful pribluds in cars, they are useful, but in critical situations they are not used because they simply do not remember about them.
        And one more thing: complicated things are traditionally unreliable.
        1. 0
          12 September 2021 01: 15
          Quote: MVG
          In combat (stress) conditions, program manipulation

          I understand that you did not serve, otherwise you would know that the fighter is being driven until he starts to act on autopilot, precisely because under fire he will not be able to think.

          Quote: MVG
          And one more thing: complicated things are traditionally unreliable.

          Tell this to tankers, pilots, ATGM operators, etc.
          1. Mwg
            -1
            12 September 2021 05: 42
            "I understand you did not serve" - ​​and you did not fight ,,,,,
            1. +1
              12 September 2021 09: 16
              Quote: MVG
              "I understand you did not serve" - ​​and you did not fight ,,,,,

              Wrong.
              1. Mwg
                -1
                12 September 2021 12: 12
                Perhaps. But war is a war of strife, especially the idea of ​​it.
                I'm talking about the war, where the eyes of those who survived it become the same color.
  10. +3
    10 September 2021 14: 10
    The thing probably helps a soldier a lot, but God forbid that something goes wrong. It is rather a piece goods for individual special forces soldiers. Afghanistan has perfectly shown that the last word still rests with the fighter! No gadgets helped the Americans
    1. +8
      10 September 2021 14: 19
      Quote: APASUS
      The thing probably helps a soldier a lot, but God forbid that something goes wrong. It is rather a piece goods for individual special forces soldiers. Afghanistan has perfectly shown that the last word still rests with the fighter! No gadgets helped the Americans

      By the way, in Afghanistan for the last 4 years, the number of combat units of the US Army did not exceed 2-3 thousand people and they held all the cities of Afghanistan. Well, the fact that the Afghan army turned out to be for the most part a corrupt herd is a shame for the Afghans, not for the Americans.
      1. +3
        10 September 2021 14: 23
        Quote: Aron Zaavi
        By the way, in Afghanistan for the last 4 years, the number of combat units of the US Army did not exceed 2-3 thousand people and they held all the cities of Afghanistan.

        You won the war or you lost it - there is no third way!
        Quote: Aron Zaavi
        Well, the fact that the Afghan army turned out to be for the most part a corrupt herd is a shame for the Afghans, not for the Americans.

        The Americans do it all the time, everything is manure. Their Georgians are not correct, Afghans are corrupt, etc.
        1. +6
          10 September 2021 17: 52
          Quote: APASUS
          Their Georgians are not correct, Afghans are corrupt

          Do you think the Syrians are "of that construction"? As soon as the Russian Federation leaves Syria, the Assad regime will collapse like a house of cards.
          This is a regularity for any power that rests on the bayonets of others.
          1. -1
            13 September 2021 11: 35
            Quote: And Us Rat
            Do you think the Syrians are "of that construction"? As soon as the Russian Federation leaves Syria, the Assad regime will collapse like a house of cards.

            Why would he collapse? We did not bring him to power, and the regime was well-established. Forgot how it all began? If Americans pay barmaley any regime will fall
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              13 September 2021 17: 27
              Quote: APASUS
              Why would he collapse?

              It collapsed 10 years ago, just Russia picked it up at the last second. Today it is a "corpse on ventilator", which will decompose in a week, like the regime in Afghanistan, as soon as the "patrons" leave.

              Quote: APASUS
              If Americans pay barmaley any regime will fall

              They started bombing Afghanistan under the control of the Taliban in 2002 because they couldn't find the barmaley? Or didn't you have enough money?
              The state is like an organism, when it is healthy - it has immunity, and when it is sick - an infection blooms in it, then it rots and dies, like Somalia, for example, or the Central African Republic, zombie countries in which all kinds of infection reign.
              As soon as you remove Syria from the ventilator - it will die and be reborn or become a zombie - it depends solely on the "DNA" in the heads of ordinary Syrians, because they are cells of this organism.
              1. 0
                14 September 2021 09: 06
                Quote: And Us Rat
                They started bombing Afghanistan under the control of the Taliban in 2002 because they couldn't find the barmaley? Or didn't you have enough money?
                The state is like an organism, when it is healthy - it has immunity, and when it is sick - an infection blooms in it, then it rots and dies, like Somalia, for example, or the Central African Republic, zombie countries in which all kinds of infection reign.
                As soon as you remove Syria from the ventilator - it will die and be reborn or become a zombie - it depends solely on the "DNA" in the heads of ordinary Syrians, because they are cells of this organism.

                Have you identified the decay of the state of Syria or your curators?
                By what criteria, if not a secret?
                Somehow, the Internet was packed to capacity with info, that Belarus is sick, is already decomposing, she urgently needs a new doctor. And who asked the people if he wants such treatment, because Ukraine is nearby and everyone knows the recipe.
                So there is no need to tell fables, I would listen to your opinion if you were a Syrian!
                1. 0
                  14 September 2021 18: 55
                  Quote: APASUS
                  Have you identified the rotting state of Syria?

                  Reality is an unforgiving thing. Your attempt to find the "author" is a conventional method of "animating" the processes, because it is easier to blame someone than to come to terms with the inevitability of natural processes.

                  Quote: APASUS
                  By what criteria, if not a secret?

                  The people revolted in 2011 against the poverty to which they were driven by the ...
                  The leader must know when to leave, he serves the people, and not vice versa. The people should not starve for the royal rear on the throne.
                  Syria was afflicted with the disease "corruption", "nepotism" and "authoritarianism", otherwise the external bacteria of the "idea" could not infect the cells of the body (the minds of the Syrians).
                  Try to arrange a color revolution in Belgium or Australia, you will never recruit any significant number of activists, because the immunity of society works.

                  Quote: APASUS
                  Somehow here the Internet was crammed to the eyeballs info, that Belarus is sick, is already decomposing

                  Old Man is anyone, but not id..ot, he KNOWS TO ensure SATURATION and SECURITY, which is why their "Maidan" failed.

                  Quote: APASUS
                  And who asked the people if he wants such treatment, because Ukraine is nearby and everyone knows the recipe.

                  But Yanukovych yes id..ot, otherwise he would not have brought the "disease" to the point of no return. "The upper classes could not do otherwise, but the lower classes could no longer."

                  Quote: APASUS
                  So no need to tell fables

                  I am not ORT to tell fables. The fact that you do not want to accept reality as it is is your difficulties.
                  According to the rules of psychology, you are now at the stage of "denial", there are 3 more ahead: "anger" and "bargaining", and "acceptance".
                  1. -1
                    15 September 2021 09: 55
                    Your attempt to find the "author" is a semiological method of "animating" the processes, because it is easier to blame someone than to come to terms with the inevitability of natural processes.

                    Describing these processes, you somehow missed:
                    That this "uprising", indignation against tyranny and hunger, etc., and so on was financed by our "partners." And even Vicki, who is not the most tolerant of Russia, writes
                    The main participants in the conflict are the regular armed and paramilitary groups supporting President Bashar al-Assad (Syrian Arab Armed Forces, National Defense Forces, etc.), the formation of the "moderate" Syrian opposition (Free Syrian Army, Sunni Arab tribal formations), Kurdish regionalists ( People's Self-Defense Forces, Syrian Democratic Forces), as well as various types of Islamist and jihadist terrorist groups (IS, Front al-Nusra (currently Hayat Tahrir al-Sham), etc.), in whose activities numerous volunteers are involved from abroad.

                    So the Syrian peasants, outraged by the tyranny of the Assad, threw themselves into a couple of hundred tanks, several thousand RPGs and machine guns with pickups.
                    Isn't it funny to write such things?
                    Quote: And Us Rat
                    Syria was afflicted with the disease "corruption", "nepotism" and "authoritarianism", otherwise the external bacteria of the "idea" could not infect the cells of the body (the minds of the Syrians).

                    This is not Syria, the whole East lives like this. (With rare exceptions) There are food riots in Egypt every 2-3 years and tourists are asked to close the windows with curtains on buses passing through Cairo (never heard of?)
                    Quote: And Us Rat
                    Old Man is anyone, but not id..ot, he KNOWS TO ensure SATURATION and SECURITY, which is why their "Maidan" failed.

                    Again by. Again a hungry people, rebelled against tyranny and violation of freedoms, well, it's not funny. Considering the role of Poland and Lithuania, it is foolish to close your eyes (here you just had to talk with the locals) Belarusians may not be against change, but they are terribly afraid of conflict, an example of Ukraine's integration on the face !
                    Quote: And Us Rat
                    But Yanukovych yes id..ot, otherwise he would not have brought the "disease" to the point of no return. "

                    Yanukovych is an ordinary criminal. Azarov ruled there (very smart) The problem of Yanukovych is that he sold the country, albeit unsuccessfully
                    Quote: And Us Rat
                    you do not want to accept reality as it is, these are your difficulties.

                    You look at the world through the prism of democracy, rights and freedoms, and I am a realist. I do not believe in these tales that there is democracy in Ukraine now, that in Afghanistan the United States defended the world from terrorism, that it is possible to recover from poisoning with a chemical warfare agent.
                    1. 0
                      16 September 2021 00: 50
                      Quote: APASUS
                      this "uprising", indignation against tyranny and hunger, etc., and so on were financed by our "partners"

                      In the art of manipulating public opinion, there is a curious phenomenon, a statement that is repeated many times, after a while it begins to be perceived by the masses as true, without the need for proof, although it may turn out to be false for verification.
                      Do you have proof of your claims?

                      Quote: APASUS
                      Wiki writes even then

                      I already understood the relationship of members of the forum with Vicki, when it is convenient "even Vicki writes", and when it is against the grain then immediately "lies of the West."
                      "We read here, we don't read here, we wrap the fish here." lol

                      Quote: APASUS
                      So the Syrian peasants, outraged by the tyranny of the Assad, threw themselves into a couple of hundred tanks, several thousand RPGs and machine guns with pickups.

                      After a YEAR (365 days Karl !!!) the demonstrations were dispersed with killed and wounded, I am generally amazed at such patience. After the first killed, I would take the pitchfork.

                      Quote: APASUS
                      Belarusians may not be against changes, but they are terribly afraid of the conflict

                      Well, it means "bad but stable" they are satisfied with more than the risk, the mentality means it has remained so, they, in fact, still live in the USSR, the slave mentality will not be eliminated. There is still no mass acceptance of the idea that the tree of freedom should be watered with the blood of tyrants and patriots.

                      Quote: APASUS
                      Yanukovych's problem is that he sold the country

                      Well, it means such a country, every nation deserves its rulers.

                      Quote: APASUS
                      You look at the world through the prism of democracy, rights and freedoms, and I am a realist.

                      I am also far from being an idialist, and I perfectly understand all the filth, hypocrisy and rot of this world. But this does not mean that you need to raise your paws and accept. Democracy is a fiction, the world is ruled by plutocracy, but while the masses demonstrate daily commitment to the ideas of freedom and equality, the elites are forced to act cautiously and with an eye to public opinion. And when the people are silent for fear of shocks, then life in the country turns into "stable Turkmenistan".
                      For the triumph of evil, the inaction of decent people is enough.
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                      2. 0
                        16 September 2021 08: 56
                        Quote: And Us Rat
                        Do you have proof of your claims?

                        You need to prove that the indignant people, suddenly out of nowhere, turned out to be a warehouse with weapons, with weapons for the division?
                        Quote: And Us Rat
                        "We read here, we don't read here, we wrap the fish here."

                        What does not concern politics and history, then Wiki writes almost reliably (there are some errors) And so, this is a normal tool of influence
                        Quote: And Us Rat
                        After the first killed, I would take the pitchfork.

                        Well, why didn't you support the Syrian people? I can pay for tickets
                        Quote: And Us Rat
                        Well, it means "bad but stable" they are satisfied with more than the risk, the mentality means it has remained so, they, in fact, still live in the USSR, the slave mentality will not be eliminated. There is still no mass acceptance of the idea that the tree of freedom should be watered with the blood of tyrants and patriots.

                        And who told you that freedom is full and warm, a good salary and social? You have clearly demonstrated what the West needs in Ukraine. Believe in the ideals of justice, so why these ideals bypassed us in the 90s, under the leadership of your friends? Why, in the place of building democracy, they began to ravage the economy? I just worked at an enterprise where Buran was protected from overheating. I had a drink of freedom .......
                        Quote: And Us Rat
                        Well, it means such a country, every nation deserves its rulers.

                        Directly according to the instructions - Ukrainians are bad, Georgians are cowards, Afghans are corrupt. You do not want to take care of freedoms and rights?
                        Quote: And Us Rat
                        I am also far from being an idialist, and I perfectly understand all the filth, hypocrisy and rot of this world. But this does not mean that you need to raise your paws and accept. Democracy is a fiction, the world is ruled by plutocracy, but while the masses demonstrate daily commitment to the ideas of freedom and equality, the elites are forced to act cautiously and with an eye to public opinion. And when the people are silent for fear of shocks, then life in the country turns into "stable Turkmenistan".
                        For the triumph of evil, the inaction of decent people is enough.

                        goodHere I agree with you
                      3. 0
                        16 September 2021 20: 11
                        Quote: APASUS
                        the indignant people, suddenly from scratch, turned out to be a warehouse with weapons, with weapons for the division

                        And you have already forgotten how at the beginning of hostilities, even BEFORE the invasion of IS, the Syrian troops deserted en masse, threw warehouses with weapons and went over to the side of the militia. "Armament for the division" is said too loudly, single tanks and SPG / BAU. And to remind you about the massive handicraft balloon launchers?
                        That is why the invasion of IS from Iraq was so successful, by their arrival, the Syrian army had already collapsed from the inside.

                        Quote: APASUS
                        What does not concern politics and history, then Wiki writes almost authentically

                        The most ironic thing is that the Russian-language segment of Wiki is biased just pro-Russian. Knowing several languages, I can compare the same article. Remember, Wiki can be edited anyone... And you have to be extremely naive to think that the "Ministry of Truth" of the Russian Federation does not keep this process under control.
                        I checked, tried to correct the blatant propaganda, and you still think that everything was cleaned up very quickly after me, not even an hour had passed.

                        Quote: APASUS
                        And who told you that freedom is full and warm, a good salary and social?

                        Historical pattern, it's hard to argue with her.
                        You are just being disingenuous, you attributed to my position the statement that "full and warm" will come IMMEDIATELY and everywhere. In demagoguery, this technique is called a substitution of a thesis.
                        The reality is that these processes are long and painful, like Moses, “40 years in the wilderness,” until the slaves die out.
                        All of today's "solid" democracies have paid in full for their freedoms, only the terror after the French revolution was worth what.
                        But the alternative isn't sugar either. Lick the heels of the beaten off kings and the neo-feudal lords who have gone to the edge, misunderstood as "officials" - thank you.
                        There are things, having tried which, it is impossible to turn back, for example, from an early age I grew up in a country where democracy is not an empty phrase, and I cannot imagine myself living in a totalitarian state, where my fate will be decided by the whim of those in power, ordered courts and the arbitrariness of the state apparatus. I don't even know how to give bribes.

                        Quote: APASUS
                        Directly according to the instructions - Ukrainians are bad, Georgians are cowards, Afghans are corrupt

                        A costume will not make a dandy out of a Papuan. The mentality of a backward social group does not change overnight, it is evolution over several generations.
                        For over 100 years, Yankees have been shooting wild west sheriffs until they sucked up respect for the law.

                        Quote: APASUS
                        You don’t want to take care of your freedoms and rights?

                        We are doing it permanently, in this matter we must ALWAYS run in order to stay in place. Because the elites always try on the common man's teeth, on the topic of "screwing up and restraining".
                        The principle "who does not want to feed his army will feed someone else's" also works here. If you relax the rolls on guard of their freedoms, there will be those who want to stall and put on a collar, such are the people.
      2. 0
        10 September 2021 14: 28
        By the way, in Afghanistan for the last 4 years, the number of combat units of the US Army did not exceed 2-3 thousand people and they held all the cities of Afghanistan.

        "They kept them", hiding in concrete mausoleums, and overlaid with Afghan cannon fodder, which fled after the first nix.
      3. 0
        10 September 2021 14: 36
        Aaron Zaavi ....By the way, in Afghanistan for the last 4 years, the number of combat units of the US Army did not exceed 2-3 thousand people and they held all the cities of Afghanistan

        Without leaving your base. They moved only by helicopters, they were afraid to go even into the "green zone" of Kabul. Afghan soldiers were trained there. They themselves did not take part in the battles, only from the air.
        1. +5
          10 September 2021 17: 07
          Quote: askort154
          Aaron Zaavi ....By the way, in Afghanistan for the last 4 years, the number of combat units of the US Army did not exceed 2-3 thousand people and they held all the cities of Afghanistan

          Without leaving your base. They moved only by helicopters, they were afraid to go even into the "green zone" of Kabul. Afghan soldiers were trained there. They themselves did not take part in the battles, only from the air.

          The main cause of death of Americans in Afghanistan is exactly the same as that of a limited contingent of Soviet troops in DAR - the damaging elements of explosive devices - mines, charges (so-called roadside), etc.
    2. 0
      10 September 2021 14: 21
      Quote: APASUS
      but God forbid that something goes wrong.

      In real life, EVERYTHING !!! will certainly go wrong. Anything that can catch will surely catch, everything that can fall off will surely fall off. The front arm with a smart gadget will surely break against the nearest stone, the optics will be flooded with unexpected rain. And the fighter who in the first photo to the article will not get anywhere without that electronics, because he was simply not taught to hold a weapon correctly. He even keeps it crooked for a photo (not vertically)
      1. +1
        10 September 2021 18: 01
        Quote: NDR-791
        because he was simply not taught

        In any serious military structure, this does not happen; the devices are allowed only after a thorough study of the iron.
        And if we are talking about the clownish guards of banana kings, then the "death star" will not help them either.

        Quote: NDR-791
        He even keeps it crooked for a photo.

        Because he is a fashion model, not a professional fighter.

        Is it really difficult to draw such primitive conclusions? sad
    3. +1
      10 September 2021 14: 23
      No gadgets helped the Americans

      "The best radar is the samurai's eye looking through the scope!" (c) wink
      1. 0
        10 September 2021 18: 03
        Quote: paul3390
        "The best radar is the samurai's eye looking through the scope!" (c)

        The samurai lost in the end.
        1. Mwg
          -2
          11 September 2021 10: 44
          This is because the USSR heaped lyulya.
          And the United States even lost to the samurai on all counts and used nuclear charges for political reasons, and not for strategic / tactical necessity.
          1. 0
            12 September 2021 01: 20
            Quote: MVG
            This is because the USSR heaped lyulya.
            And the United States even lost to the samurai on all counts and used nuclear charges for political reasons, and not for strategic / tactical necessity.

            Well, since you say this, then let’s argue, I’m curious how you will get out. laughing
            Let me remind you that the arguments must be factually substantiated and not unfounded.
            1. Mwg
              -1
              12 September 2021 05: 52
              http://www.protown.ru/information/hide/4739.html
              1. 0
                12 September 2021 09: 24
                Quote: MVG
                http://www.protown.ru/information/hide/4739.html

                That is, refuting your first pearl? It is commendable, mistakes must be able to admit. Yes
                1. Mwg
                  -1
                  12 September 2021 12: 08
                  Why would you? Didn't the USSR first destroyed Japan's resource base in China, then destroyed the main ground forces in Korea? There is nothing left to fight with and no one to fight. Therefore, it is meaningless. And Japan gave up.
                  But "the entire progressive world" is shouting about the achievements of the United States in the victory over Japan in the form of a dropped nuclear bomb. And in fact, the destruction of Hiroshima and Nagasaki is a typical demonstrative behavior of gopots on an international scale.
  11. 0
    10 September 2021 14: 17
    A detonator is needed for mines based on a nonlinear locator and to mine paths from such AI cyboorgs.
  12. +1
    10 September 2021 14: 26
    Israeli defense concern unveils "future" assault rifles
    Everything will be fine, everything will be cool ... then, you can do it a lot, but then you have to spend so much on advertising, how much!
  13. +3
    10 September 2021 14: 48
    It will turn out like in that joke: on board there are casinos, saunas, restaurants, spas, and now with all this we will try to take off!
    Maybe for some super-duper troops, such a complication and rise in price will be justified, for single copies, but for a sufficiently large group of troops this is complete nonsense.
    The more complex and expensive the devices are, the more likely it is to break or misalign something.
    Nobody can predict how the issues will be resolved on the battlefield. request request
    It's just that some people are already blowing away the roof, just let me create another wunderwolf. Probably they can't even eat without it. lol lol
    1. +3
      10 September 2021 18: 08
      Quote: K-50
      Maybe for some super-duper troops, such a complication and rise in price will be justified, for single copies, but for a sufficiently large group of troops this is complete nonsense.

      At one time, the same was said about individual night vision devices for each soldier. The result is known, the Yankees shot at 2000-year-old bearded men at night, like blind kittens.

  14. 0
    10 September 2021 14: 55
    The thing, of course, is good, and the antidote is probably like Tosochka, in one fell swoop with all the beats, and with a simple intellect and a complex one.
    1. +3
      10 September 2021 18: 16
      Quote: Ros 56
      The thing is certainly good, and the antidote is probably of the Tosochka type ...

      It is highly doubtful. The infantry is the last, when all the Tosochki and little dicks within a radius of 100 km are burned by aviation, ironed the tanks and plowed by artillery.

      IMHO - TOS is a weapon against the Papuans, the radius of destruction is too small, they simply cannot reach a technologically equal enemy within the range of a shot.

      1. -3
        11 September 2021 07: 12
        What year is going on for you, isn't 1945 by chance ???
        1. 0
          12 September 2021 01: 10
          Quote: Ros 56
          What year is going on for you, isn't 1945 by chance ???

          Explain what you wanted to say by this?
          1. -1
            12 September 2021 06: 56
            Yes, I see, you all go on the attack with rifles at the ready and minus those who disagree.
            1. +1
              12 September 2021 09: 26
              Quote: Ros 56
              Yes, I see, you all go on the attack with rifles at the ready and minus those who disagree.

              I still do not understand your "allegories" and "slang", can you explain it humanly?
              Who you are"? Why all"? What does the "rifle at the ready" have to do with it? What nafig "attack"? What are you talking about?
              Py.Sy. - I do not minus opponents in polemics for a different opinion, only for stupidity or demagoguery.
  15. CYM
    +1
    10 September 2021 16: 11
    So it seems that they have already chosen the "rifle of the future" https://lenta.ru/articles/2016/04/09/conceptgun/ winked
    "Experts formulate the intermediate result of programs to create a" rifle of the future "as follows: a revolution in the industry is possible only with the emergence of new methods of throwing a projectile or fundamentally new methods of hitting a target." In addition to the classic electronic warfare systems, there are already compact EMP grenades and emitters ... lol
  16. +2
    10 September 2021 17: 00
    I think the war of the future will look like this. First, the opposing sides throw EMP grenades at each other, all smart electronics are cut down and the soldiers have no choice but to fight in the old fashioned way bully
    1. +4
      10 September 2021 18: 26
      Quote: kimdmitri
      the opposing sides throw EMP grenades at each other

      Science fiction is good in moderation.
      Military electronics have been protected from EMP since the advent of nuclear weapons.
      1. 0
        10 September 2021 21: 49
        Yes, but not all, electronic equipment cannot be fully protected and will not be operational for some time.
  17. -2
    10 September 2021 21: 42
    The fact that the article does not even describe the elements of AI, but as I understand it, all Jews are now in orgasm and it is useless to debate
  18. 0
    10 September 2021 21: 44
    HERE it will be a laugh if such a system is hacked and the friend or foe marker is swapped laughing And all this right before the fight.
  19. +4
    11 September 2021 07: 02
    ARCAS provides the following capabilities:
    - measuring the range to the target;
    - automatic correction of ballistics;
    - detection of sources of fire and movement;
    - the implementation of shooting from around the corner and from the hip;
    - identification of friendly and enemy targets;
    - tracking the amount of ammunition;
    - zeroing in weapons without the need for live fire.
  20. -3
    11 September 2021 09: 25
    Quote: voyaka uh

    You are 15 years behind.
    For example 100,000 lines.
    After the first run, the software will have 150,000 lines.
    The program added 50 thousand by itself.
    Such a "mature" AI will already have (for example) 1 million lines of code.

    Very soon, this thing will start to slow down in a real battle, killing the owner. In chess, she will certainly win.
  21. -1
    12 September 2021 12: 49
    Artificial intelligence analyzes the environment and provides soldiers with clear information in real time.
    Ah-ah-ah ... Amozna, can I have such a device, go to work ?! I beg you !! Moreover, it fits into the handle of the weapon! Is it possible to trim the sturgeon? Otherwise, Japanese anime starts to seem like historical films. Hare to tell you ...
  22. 0
    12 September 2021 23: 31
    AI, you say? Well, let him place the chess pieces on the board ... Ah, we will come in with a tambourine!