"To contain Russia": the President of Estonia called on the European Union to deploy air defense systems in the country

Estonia would like to have its own medium-range air defense system, but only at the expense of the European Union. President Kersti Kaljulaid made a statement to this effect.

The Estonian president offered the EU to finance the creation of air defense in the republic by purchasing medium-range anti-aircraft systems. Kaljulaid explained her desire quite simply - "containing Russia."

In her opinion, Estonia needs its own medium-range air defense system to defend against Russia. According to her, Estonia annually allocates more than 2% of the gross domestic product to NATO expenses, and there is no air defense in the Baltics. Therefore, the complexes should be purchased by the EU through the "European Union Cohesion Fund".

For the fifth year we sit in Brussels and say that the Baltic countries, including Estonia, spend more than 2% of the gross domestic product, but they still do not have, for example, medium-range air defense systems

- she said.

Note that Kersti Kaljulaid's appeal is far from the first. Earlier, the leaders of all three Baltic republics declared the need to create an air defense system to "protect against Russia". This issue has been raised several times over the years. However, NATO continues to keep its military contingent on the territory of the Baltic States, and organizes the air defense of the republics. aviation the alliance on a rotational basis.

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[lelik613]

Grandma wanted to become a grandfather, but not for her own money.

[Finches]

Kersti Kaljulaid is undoubtedly an interesting woman and her demand for the deployment of air defense in Estonia is legitimate, and the voiced reason about Russia's aggressiveness is nothing more than a pan-European brand lobbied by tycoons from the military-industrial complex!

[Orange bigg]

Estonia would like to have its own medium-range air defense system, but only at the expense of the European Union. President Kersti Kaljulaid made a statement to this effect.

Ukraine 2.0. It also strives to get to heaven on someone else's hump.

[sabakina]

It seems to me that someone bit someone at the parade.

[aszzz888]

sabakina (Vyacheslav (Kostroma))
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It seems to me that someone bit someone at the parade. wink

So in that serpentarium you can expect anything! They will devour each other - they will not choke! The law of the chicken coop: climb higher, bite the lower one, and fuck your neighbor!

[Vladimir Mashkov]

I look at this immediate funny - like all ... lessons - Kaljulaid and I think: does she really not understand that this air defense is nothing compared to the capabilities of Russia and will simply force Russia to add tiny Zstonia to the list of potential targets? Or does she obediently follow the prompts of the Americans?

[Cron]

Quote: Finches

and its requirement for the deployment of air defense systems in Estonia is legitimate

Legal but not acceptable. The tribalists took NATO under the tutelage with the words that they will calm down later, you must understand them, and this will not be directed against us. The Americans are already forgetting something there during the exercises. Air defense is generally unacceptable. All positions have practically surrendered after the Second World War, a disgrace

[Brturin]

Quote: Cron

The tribalists took NATO under the tutelage with the words that they will calm down later,

Guardianship is of course, but there is an opinion ..

"Let's say Russia attacked us. We begin to refer to Article 5: they say, NATO allies, come and protect us, because our borders have been violated and our constitutional order is under threat. But what will happen if an information war confuses the issue of where does this boundary begin at all? " She suggested. According to the prime minister, if Estonia does not have a border agreement with Russia, then its allies can be misled as to whether there was a border crossing at all and whether NATO's Article 20210422 can be used. https://sputnik-meedia.ee/Estonian_news/339347/XNUMX/premjer-estonia-esli-ne-zaklyuchim-pograndogovor-RF-NATO-nam-ne-pomozhet.html

[Alf]

Quote: BrTurin

We begin to refer to Article 5: they say, NATO allies, come and protect us,

The allies will begin to defend the Balts by imposing new sanctions.

[fruc]

..... NATO continues to keep its military contingent on the territory of the Baltic States, and the air defense of the republics is organized by the alliance's aviation on a rotational basis.

The leadership of the alliance is quite satisfied with this situation, why arming Estonia. Let them arm themselves for their own money.

[Pete mitchell]

Quote: frruc

Let them arm themselves for their own money.

The young woman still does not remember how the Americans pulled the Baltic states into airspace surveillance: the equipment was donated for forty lyams for three, and then the radars were sold - from 15 each ... so at your own expense, nice, at your own expense

[seregatara1969]

Summoned or summoned?

[Lara Croft]

Quote: Finches

Kersti Kaljulaid is undoubtedly an interesting woman and her demand for the deployment of air defense in Estonia is legitimate

Why is it legal? ESU became a military-political bloc, when?

[Avior]

Always according to article 42 of the treaty establishing the EU - this is an article on military cooperation

https://en.m.wikisource.org/wiki/Consolidated_version_of_the_Treaty_on_European_Union/Title_V:_General_Provisions_on_the_Union%27s_External_Action_Service_and_Specific_Provisions_on_the_Common_Foreign_and_Security_Policy#SECTION_2:_PROVISIONS_ON_THE_COMMON_SECURITY_AND_DEFENCE_POLICY

Since 2001, the Military structures of the European Union have been created - the Military Committee, the military headquarters, the committee of the chiefs of staff, the air force, the gendarmerie, etc.
There is a question about the creation of a unified European army

[Lara Croft]

Quote: Avior

There is a question about the creation of a unified European army

Since the days of De Gaulle ...

[Avior]

Nevertheless, there are military structures
And the army is separate ...
In fact, NATO does not have it either.

[Lara Croft]

Quote: Avior

Nevertheless, there are military structures
And the army is separate ...
In fact, NATO does not have it either.

Nevertheless, the EU does not have any Army, but only command and control bodies ... without military units and subdivisions ...
You are mistaken from the composition of the national Armed Forces of the old NATO members under the NATO command in the areas in peacetime, formations and units are allocated ..., as well as formations that are transferred to NATO during the threatened period and in the event of war ...

[Avior]

In the EU, all this is also provided

Permanent Structured Cooperation on Security and Defense (PESCO) is a program of the EU member states aimed at closer cooperation in the field of security and defense, within the framework of the EU Global Strategy on Foreign and Security Policy [1]

It also forms the EU peacekeeping force.
It is another matter that in the presence of NATO, the EU military structures perform rather duplicating reserve functions and strengthen the EU component in NATO.

[Pete mitchell]

Quote: Avior

It also forms the EU peacekeeping force.

Let's just not remind the Serbs about EFOR - it was with them that most of the disgrace happened ... And nata set a record for the speed of making a decision to create SFOR, it seems, they met it in a day ... the Americans got a chance to demonstrate the inability of Europe without staffs ...
The main opponents of the creation of the Military Force EU are the staff, well, now they are already shaved

[Avior]

It is not clear what you mean.
Since 1995, the international IFOR mission has operated in Bosnia, since 1996 - its successor - the SFOR mission - both were based on NATO with the participation of other countries.
And since November 2004, the European Union (the EUFOR contingent within the framework of Operation Altea) assumed responsibility for the peacekeeping mission in Bosnia and Herzegovina.

[Pete mitchell]

Europe tried to start peacekeeping (it was under the auspices of the EU that the Russian contingent was invited), but could not do anything, for which it was sincerely despised by the locals; after they screwed up nata in a day made a decision on the introduction of its own peacekeeping contingent - these at least a little put the situation in order ... although the order was in the sector of the Russian Federation, Germany and, oddly enough, in Spanish. With the Russian Federation, everything is clear, among other things, the commanders, Russian and Serbian, studied at the General Staff Academy together. The Germans just toughly put things in order and no one even reproached them. History is silent as to how the Spaniards achieved order; in my case, these are the Belgian officers of the General Staff, they shared their personal impressions; the soldiers of the Russian contingent were remembered with respect.
Subsequently, a friend “ruled” the northern sector ... impressions ...

[fruc]

Estonia is a NATO member, and therefore requires (to protect the sky from the aggressive Russian Federation). I don't think the US will spend its taxpayers' money to meet the needs of some Estonia. NATO has secured its presence in this country and this is the main thing. And the USA expects military orders from Estonia, but for their money.

[ja-ja-vw]

Quote: Finches

Kersti Kaljulaid is undoubtedly an interesting woman

Well, you have a taste

"Estonian" poet Ыyhu Ibenpalu is good about her

[Finches]

I'm not in terms of appearance, but in terms of her statements

[ja-ja-vw]

Quote: Finches

I'm not in terms of appearance, but in terms of her statements

well, here she is

I visited the Chongar checkpoint near Crimea. I saw there many people of different ages - men, women, children, who moved to Crimea to see their relatives and friends. The path they had to go through was surrounded minami... Suddenly I saw like a three-year-old child escaping from his parents through a mined field. Dear friends, this was a very deep negative experience for me.

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[avg]

Quote: Finches

a pan-European brand lobbied by the tycoons from the military-industrial complex!

That's just it, that we have already gone through this: a limited contingent on a rotational basis - air defense - missile defense - INF. And Russia is the aggressor.

[alch3mist]

In the title photo, she sorely lacks a foil hat

[p0pulivox]

No, rather, she looks like the heroine of the movie "Behind the Matches", who wanted to marry a tailor ...

[Peter is not the first]

Kersti Kaljulaid is undoubtedly an interesting woman

If she was so interesting, she might stop teaching everyone how to fight Russia and demand protection, but turn to her husband, George, so that he would “calm down” her in a matrimonial manner and protect her.

[lelik613]

It was about the state, not about its head.

[knn54]

A good idea was invented - air defense for free, and in the future the EU will be forced to allocate funds for the maintenance and maintenance of the complex (s). And albeit small, but the budget will be replenished.

[hrych]

Quote: lelik613

Grandma wanted to become a grandfather, but not for her own money.

[Pacquale Pestrini]

It is worth clarifying that the photo is not an army, but Kaitseliit. Like the people's militia, volunteers. In the case of a kipish, they will take an automatic machine from the safe and go to the forest

[Finches]

It will be right, they will take a shovel and go into the forest

[Pacquale Pestrini]

They have enough weapons, many went there, among other things, to have a machine gun at home. They were drunk in the 90s normally playing war games. Wait, they do not take anyone without hitting.

[Finches]

The presence of weapons in the house of residents does not predetermine the level of the state's combat readiness! But it adds anarchy for sure.

[Pacquale Pestrini]

In Estonia, it is easy to get a permit for weapons, there is no anarchy, as you can see. Kaitseliit has a lot of good, equipment, artillery ... the idea is not bad, the army is small, and these ideological almost all, again, Estonians can be understood, 33% of Russian permanent residents, many Gaster from Ukraine, they understand that the Russians are most likely Russians will not shoot if that, well, I am not familiar with such, for example.

[Finches]

I'm talking about anarchy in the event of a full-scale war against the regular army!

[Pacquale Pestrini]

Any war on Estonian territory is unlikely to last more than a week. Then it was Kaitseliit who had to fight the partisans in the forests. As it is conceived. The regular army will be multiplied by 0 in a couple of days, I think.

[Finches]

In the forest, you still need to be able to survive, I doubt the current generation, but the grandmother, who is in the photo, can just survive in the forest! The school is still Soviet!

[Pacquale Pestrini]

Well, in the armies there are supposedly exercises, they give a rabbit alive and in the forest for a week for hypodermic food. As far as I remember, I had to hold out for a week or two, then help should come according to plan, if only it comes)

[sabakina]

Quote: Pacquale Pestrini

It is worth clarifying that the photo is not an army, but Kaitseliit. Like the people's militia, volunteers. In the case of a kipish, they will take an automatic machine from the safe and go to the forest

In the case of a kipish, they will take a white shroud from the safe and crawl towards the nearest cemetery!

[Pacquale Pestrini]

I don't think there are ideological guys

[alex neym_2]

For other people's money and sweet vinegar? And their 2% of GDP - how much will it be? Can you also submit an atomic bomb to contain "aggressive" Russia on a silver platter? As they lived for free at the expense of the Russian Empire, then the Soviet Union, making themselves a showcase, and at the moment they want to live at the expense of others, considering themselves almost the "navel" of the Universe. This applies to all the Tribalts and the rest who are in cahoots with them ...

[cniza]

Estonia would like to have its own medium-range air defense system, but only at the expense of the European Union. President Kersti Kaljulaid made a statement to this effect.

No, you have a different fate and completely unenviable ...

[sabakina]

Quote: cniza

No, you have a different fate and completely unenviable ...

Vitya prYuvet! Immediately read instead of "fate" "wedding" Or maybe it is ...

[aszzz888]

sabakina (Vyacheslav (Kostroma))
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Quote: cniza

No, you have a different fate and completely unenviable ...

Vitya prYuvet! I read straight away instead of "fate" "wedding" laughing Maybe it is ... recourse

And it looks like a dog!
My, !

[sabakina]

Sheriff PrYuvet! Yes, there are few thoroughbreds left ...

[cniza]

Quote: sabakina

Quote: cniza

No, you have a different fate and completely unenviable ...

Vitya prYuvet! Immediately read instead of "fate" "wedding" Or maybe it is ...

Hello, well, everyone has already gotten married to everyone ...

[Piramidon]

Estonia would like to have its own medium-range air defense system

Is there a lot of money? Buy and have.

[aszzz888]

Piramidon (Stepan. Russia)
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Estonia would like to have its own medium-range air defense system

Is there a lot of money? Buy and have.

Well, this mare ... the horse wants to make banquet at someone else's expense

therefore complexes should be purchased by the EU through the "European Union Cohesion Fund".

[Ross xnumx]

However, NATO continues to maintain its military contingent in the Baltic states, and the air defense of the republics is organized by the alliance's aviation on a rotational basis.

Do you not believe in the professional suitability of the Estonian fighter aircraft flight personnel or amazed by the efficiency of work and the speed of decision-making of the Estonian operators of air defense installations?

- How many swords we have!
- Four!
“How many muskets do we have?”
- Four!
“So who are we?”
- Armed forces of Estonia!

[Yang yangov]

I think it's easier for her to get into a female aggressive pose, and Russia will not dare to bomb her !! but will only introduce .. Kozhegetovich's squad.

[Nafanya from the sofa]

The Moski complex is off the charts.

[aszzz888]

Nafanya from the couch (Nafanya from the couch)
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The Moski complex is off the charts. fool

I have nothing against ugly women, BUT looking at IT Buratino! I involuntarily recall childhood fairy tales about Baba Yaga, Shapoklyak, kikimors and other evil spirits. Although Shapoklyak is against this Buratina - just a beauty!

[aszzz888]

Kersti Kaljulaid's appeal is far from the first.

Why is eeeeestonia still not on the list of enemies of the Russian Federation? Tighten the screw with the smallest thread with it to the very best! Well, just in case -

POTAY - reamed (widened) part of a cylindrical hole for a screw head or rivet

[Pacquale Pestrini]

How will you screw it up? There is no transit, and Estonia does not bend in any way. And people are more likely to travel from the Russian Federation here to work, and not vice versa)

[Flooding]

Quote: Pacquale Pestrini

There is no transit, and Estonia does not bend in any way.

Is the economy supported by guest workers?

[Pacquale Pestrini]

In what sense? Ukrainian?

[Flooding]

I'm talking about those Estonians who work outside their country

[Pacquale Pestrini]

There are not very many of them, as a rule, if they have been working in Finland for a long time, for example, they are already moving in families for permanent residence. Such as in the Russian Federation, that the men are all in earnings, but women and children are not at home here.

[Flooding]

Quote: Pacquale Pestrini

Such as in the Russian Federation, that the men are all in earnings, but women with children are not at home here

where did you get the idea that this is how it is in Russia?

[Pacquale Pestrini]

I meant Tajiks and others who travel to Russia. The Russians are also trying, if they are entrenched, to move the family. This is noticeable in Finland, families are trying to move for permanent residence

[sabakina]

Quote: Pacquale Pestrini

How will you screw it up? )

Have you heard about the reverse thread?

[Obstacle]

She's kind of unproblematic ...

[Yaro Polk]

Alexandra Natalyevna is just a genius compared to Kersti Kaljulaid

[K-50]

"To contain Russia"

Here's a word.
They have some kind of suicidal tendencies.
Indeed, in the case of a BP, the first thing that ours will do is try to destroy the enemy's air defense systems and placing them on their territory is the same as drawing a target on ourselves.
Well, yes, let them. Maybe life is not nice to them?

[Palestinian]

then her three-year-old boys run through minefields ... then the air defense wanted ... klim maxim?

[rotmistr60]

She managed to criticize Ukraine and determine her place in the EU no earlier than 30 years later, and she herself is trying to follow the same path as Poland and Ukraine in matters of allegedly "containment of Russia" - foreign air defense, foreign soldiers on their territory and preferably for foreign money. It was necessary for full efficiency even on the so-called. "Crimean platform" to raise this issue, and not tell stories about children running through mine fields.

[aszzz888]

rotmistr60 (Gennady)
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She managed to criticize Ukraine and determine her place in the EU no earlier than 30 years later, and she herself is trying to follow the same path as Poland and Ukraine in matters of allegedly "containing Russia" ...

So I say, the law of the chicken coop!

[stoqn477]

Am I bad with memory or are there no such air defense systems in the EU?

[Mountain shooter]

Air defense of Estonia? What will it do? Is it going to be bombed by someone? They will cut off all three Tribals, and let them sit quietly. While Russia will restore order in Europe. If interrogated

[sen]

Take away from the Baltics the invented threat from Russia and they will have no "meaning of life."

[tatarin1972]

here is their air defense, they don't need anything else.

[Andrei Nikolaevich]

I think that such articles about the "combat power" of the Balts amuse two people - Shoigu and Gerasimov. I went to the service and read it. Neighing. And for the whole day, I received a positive charge.

[Prisoner]

So this is the whole Strategic Missile Forces.

[tatarin1972]

Once I was in Estonia, stopped by the Pukhtitsa monastery, there I saw it, one of the monastery workers joked: "Our air defense", that's what I remember.

[Pacquale Pestrini]

I thought so as I saw the photo, only their woodpiles are stacked like this

[Lara Croft]

And what does ESU have to do with it, does it have its own aircraft? Or is he afraid that NATO will refuse?

[Brturin]

Quote: Lara Croft

And what does the ESU have to do with it, that it has its own aircraft?

So she, asking for it, remembered the strategic autonomy of the EU - “I tried to explain to the Americans too that from this point of view the European Union could be useful. Of course, at first a nervous situation arose when the EU started talking about strategic autonomy and the like. all the time to soften and control such tension "
"The concept of strategic autonomy for the EU implies, among other things, expanding the ability of the European Union to independently conduct military operations without relying on the United States and NATO, where the United States plays a dominant role." https://tass.ru/mezhdunarodnaya-panorama/10187485. The idea of ​​Merkel and Macron about the EU army can be wrapped up in a new way ... It is asking for and proposing within the framework of this autonomy - "it could be the conduct of the European Union, for example, one operation in Libya without the help of NATO and the United States." And she even considered that it may take 10-15 years for the EU to achieve full strategic autonomy from the US and NATO. Maybe it's just a desire to clothe your Wishlist in a beautiful package, maybe .... At the same time, "scold" NATO - "We are sitting in Brussels for the fifth year," "Will we create a new mechanism for distributing funds? In this matter, the EU is acting more efficiently than NATO." the NATO leadership is unlikely to like it ...

[Vladimir61]

For the fifth year we sit in Brussels and say ... there is still no, for example, medium-range air defense

I wonder what all Russophobes dream about at night? Really just episodes from "Startrek" and our tanks in the tunnels under the English Channel.

[Freedim]

In response to the requirement to equip the Estonian Armed Forces with air defense systems, the European Union sent three Chinese slingshots. The budget was not enough for ammunition, so the Estonian air force was advised to shoot goat dung. Calculation - 10 people. One is holding the slingshot, two are holding the one who is holding the slingshot .. two more are pulling .. The remaining five are looking for dungs ​​..
Involved 2 calculations. There are no human resources for the third slingshot.

[Andrei Nikolaevich]

One is a complex, why not place it? For two - territory and money - not enough.

[Tank jacket]

We will not attack, live on your ...

[Retvizan 8]

Well, why did God laugh at Kirsty so? He did not give her any intelligence, no beauty, no air defense.

[wow]

Oh my God ! I want such a stuffed animal - Kaljulaid, to scare the crows in the garden !!!

[sergo1914]

Modest aunt. I would also ask for the AUG, the Panzer Corps and the Mannerheim line along the border. And about five rocket mines. And a couple of armored trains. Two pairs.

[Graz]

NATO and the EU are like different structures

[Berg berg]

If Estonia really wants to deploy the EU air defense system in its country, then it can be leased and it is simply obliged to fully undertake its financing and the maintenance of the contingent of specialists.

[Prisoner]

If you imagine a fantastic situation, the Russian Federation just became unbearable to conquer Estonia, does this madam think that these pukalki will be able to stop Russia? Unlikely.

[Aleks2048]

According to her, Estonia annually allocates more than 2% of the gross domestic product to NATO expenses, and there is no air defense in the Baltics.

I wonder how much is this in absolute numbers? And will this be enough to buy sane air defense systems for Estonia? Otherwise, the leader of such an "important" country may not be making such a legitimate demand.
Well, I would like to add ... I hope that the leadership of the Russian Federation will find the possibility of placing several tactical nuclear charges on the territory of Estonia if the latter provide their territory to air defense specialists with their means from NATO countries.

[Borisych]

Give Estonia a quad "Maxim".

[Evil 55]

So this Estonian peasant woman will also ask the allies for a "vigorous loaf" ... because of her stupidity and narrow-mindedness ..

[Oleg Aviator]

M. Yes .... What kind of president is such a country. They are made for each other.) Does this humanoid think that they (complexes) will help her?). Or does he think that they will be persuaded all the time and will not do anything? Yes, God forbid that something happens very first and scooped out to the fullest. Together with the complexes)

[grandfather_Kostya]

Note that Kersti Kaljulaid's appeal is far from the first. Earlier, the leaders of all three Baltic republics declared the need to create an air defense system to "protect against Russia".

This Tribalt has not been re-read for a long time, "Harmful advice": "If mom in the store does not want to buy everything that she sees, stand up straight, your mouth wider and shout out loud:" A-ah-ah-ah ... "!

[bk0010]

Zonal air defense complex within the radius of destruction of artillery? Brilliant!

[Charik]

average mind brain, it would be better to put yourself and friends of these

[Ulysses]

Present the fool with a slingshot.
Medium radius.

[Alexey Kurilov_4]

Their air defense will not help you. All the same, the curly ones will capture you.

[Siegfried]

Why not issue an unspoken decree, after which the territory of the Baltic States would be considered the Baltic Sea in Russia. You can also publish such maps ... diplomats quietly leave, all transits are curtailed, the border is closed and any breath from there are simply ignored. It will be expensive, but they will understand the message quickly. The Russian-speaking population there can travel through Belarus to Russia.

[Reserve buildbat]

Medium-range air defense in estonia? This is correct and economical. The radius of action of the deadliest "patriot" will be enough for all the Tribaltic extinctions. It will come out inexpensively, but the mongrels will beat in ecstasy

[Pavel73]

Well done right! So in the event of an attack on the entire civilized world, we would immediately hit England and America. And now I’ll have to go to Estonia first.