Medium-altitude strike-reconnaissance UAV "Sirius" began to prepare for production

The Russian company "Kronstadt" is preparing a new reconnaissance and strike drone "Sirius" for production, the development of working and design documentation has been completed. The general director of the company Sergey Bogatikov told about it.

As Bogatikov explained, the new Sirius UAV is unified with the Orion, it is a heavier version. drone with satellite control and the ability to interact with a manned aviation... In addition, the Sirius is equipped with two engines, has a longer range and a large payload.

For the Sirius unmanned aerial vehicle, the full release of all working and design documentation has been completed. Preparation for production in progress

- he said in an interview RIA News.

"Sirius" refers to a long-range medium-altitude drone. Structurally, it is an aircraft of normal aerodynamic design with a thin fuselage, large straight wing and V-shaped tail. The power plant includes two turboprop engines.

Wingspan - 23 m, length - up to 9 m. Maximum takeoff weight - 2 - 2,5 tons (preliminary), of which 1 ton is fuel. Payload - 450 kg (external sling - 300 kg). Flight altitude - 7 thousand meters, cruising speed - 180 km / h.

Recall that "Kronstadt" is building a plant for the production of large-sized drones in Dubna near Moscow, the opening of production is scheduled for November this year.

Comments

[Barberry25]

a good device, and if they rivet at the pace of Orion, then in general it will be gorgeous ... only Helios is more gorgeous

[Orkraider]

A good device and necessary, I agree.

But, the manufacturer reported that the flight model will be ready in 2022, which means that the article is about preparation for the production of flight [test apparatus.

Hence, production for serial deliveries is possible only after passing tests and confirming its characteristics.

[Barberry25]

There should be no difficulties .. Orion's old troubles were with an engine, now they are not, the control system has already been tested .. in fact the tests are 1-2 years, and then a series .. and if they document kamikaze drones in the form of shock weapons , then in general there will be a very popular machine

[Ingvar 72]

Quote: Barberry25

Old troubles

You are Russian? Or do you consider anglicisms in speech as the development of language?

[A.K.]

Yes, there are nicknames (nicknames) through one in English, but we are all patriots. And the signs on the shops are also in English. A strange fashion here, I will tell you gentlemen. Why don't English-speaking citizens write their nickname in Russian? And all their signs are entirely in their native language. And it's time for us to ban all this orgy at the state level. I'm sorry that I'm off topic.

[Ingvar 72]

Nickname is one thing, communication language is another.
When shopping, I agree, wherever you look - there are shops and sales everywhere. Well, cashbacks - where without them.
The destruction of the language is also part of the expansion of the enemy.

[A.K.]

Totally agree with you. This trail has been following us since the nineties and we will not cut it off in any way.

[Paranoid50]

Quote: A.K.

I'm sorry which is off topic.

Just on the topic. So what about Russian? As for the nickname, at one time (seven years ago) I dragged the old "postal" here. And to be renamed is no longer comme il faut - here those who have something to hide from sin sin like that. Well, perhaps, rewrite the nickname in Cyrillic, marked "import-substituted". But that will be another story.

[A.K.]

"import substituted"

could be so

[Barberry25]

but what's the difference how I write if I write on the case?

[Ingvar 72]

So on a hairdryer it is possible on business ...

[Barberry25]

if on business, then at least in the language of the peoples of Africa, I wrote everything that is needed, if you have no complaints about the essence of what has been written, then do not waste my time

[Ingvar 72]

Quote: Barberry25

then don't waste my time

Do not pollute my native language, and you will have both time and happiness.

[Barberry25]

go in peace .. useless person ..

[Ingvar 72]

Well, at least they didn't send a letter!

[Rubi0]

And the fact that half of the words, as it were, and so tracing paper from German or French does not bother you? So sit back and chew your tie .. He's Halstuch in German.

[Ingvar 72]

Quote: Rubi0

So sit in silence and chew your tie

What are you talking about?
Most of the imported words used to come with the item of use. Now existing words are being replaced. These are two big differences.
So don't be smart, but buy yourself a lollipop.

[Zaurbek]

Judging by the picture, this is constructively Orion with a longer range and a satellite terminal

[Ingvar 72]

Quote: Zaurbek

satellite terminal

Almost all UAVs now have satellite terminals, or am I wrong?

[Zaurbek]

In simple Orion there is no, in the recent "E" there is ... ..on the smaller ones there is

[Mountain shooter]

One after another, "Orion" and "Sirius" ... There is still a heavy "Hunter" ... It went thick ...

[Grandfather Mozai]

If only it was not a lot from the country's leadership, in the sense that the quality should not be lame.

[Ingvar 72]

Quote: Mountain Shooter

It went a lot ...

There is progress in this area, but it is difficult to call them dense.
“How many complexes will you deliver in 2021?” Bogatikov replied: “six - seven”.
For example, the Turkish Bayraktar since the start of production in 2014, 154 pieces have been produced. This is despite the fact that Orion's first flight was only two years later than Bayraktar's first flight.
You can call me an all-polymer, pessimist, etc., but I can count. And it's stupid to argue with mathematics.

[avg avg]

Huxley (Huxley Thomas H.)
Mathematics can be compared to the mill of an excellent device that grinds anything to every subtlety; nevertheless, what you get depends on what you fall asleep, and just as the world's most magnificent mill will not deliver you quinoa grains of wheat, so the pages of formulas will not deliver you a certain result on dubious data.

[hagen]

Quote: Ingvar 72

There is progress in this area, but it is difficult to call them dense.

I think it will be interesting for you to read a detailed interview with Bogatikov. There are some of the questions you raised.
https://ria.ru/20210820/bespilotniki-1746359692.html

[Ingvar 72]

And what should I understand from beautiful promises?
The Turks are already doing it today, not to mention the Pendos with the Chinese.
And Bogatikov has sweet water so far.

[Dart2027]

Quote: Ingvar 72

For example, Turkish Bayraktars

Are these those in which half of the parts are imported? The Turks are only now starting to install their engines, but from the very beginning we had to do everything ourselves.

[Rubi0]

So one complex is from 3 to 6 drones, by simple mathematics it is from 20 to 40 pieces, as it were a lot in a year

[Zaurbek]

They sounded 18 Orions ... and for a scale, a plant is being built, which has been working for the Turks for 5 years.

[sav]

development of working-design documentation completed

One more stage has been passed. Good luck to "Kronstadt"

[Castro Ruiz]

Nadeyus, INTO all documentation is already digital.

[Mountain shooter]

Quote: CastroRuiz

Nadejus, INTO all documentation is already digital

Do not doubt. It is difficult now to find a designer who can draw on paper ...

[Roma 1977]

What are the engines? Didn't write. And is it important.

[Castro Ruiz]

Licensed by Austrian Rotax.

[newcomer]

Most likely engines from "CIAM" based on "APD".

[Kurare]

APD-110/120 probably. Orion times 2.

[newcomer]

And, again, most likely _ hybrid. And, pordonte, however: "... Its characteristics, most likely, will be classified for a long time ...".

[Kurare]

Quote: newbie

The characteristics of this, most likely, will be classified for a long time ... ".

This thesis would probably fit the UEC or the UAC. But not to Kronstadt. They want to do something, sell something and make money from it. They are not interested in "classified" engines.

[newcomer]

Colleague, after all, as stated, the engines are engaged in "TsIAM", "Kronstadt" has no choice but to keep the stamp "secret". Orion E is currently on sale abroad. "Sirius" is just for now.
Here, in general, some confusion, because "Sirius" is a heavier version of "Orion", conventionally "Orion2", according to the developers. And if, according to them, their engines are the same, and the engine from CIAM is classified, then there are only two options:
1. "Orion E" will be exported with some licenses, most likely Austrian;
2. Bogatikov did not mean the engine model, but the power, saying: "... about their identity ....".

[Kurare]

Quote: newbie

Colleague, after all, as stated, the engines are engaged in "CIAM"

I do not argue.

The original 914 hp Rotax 115 piston engine used on the Predator was installed. But it was replaced by a domestic 110 hp APD-120/120 engine developed by Agat and the Central Institute of Aviation Motors.

Quote: newbie

1. "Orion E" will be exported with some licenses, most likely Austrian;

Logically, since he has already used the Rotax 914.

[vargo]

Just a correction, Rotax 914 is a Canadian manufacturer, not the USA. And they put it almost everywhere and everywhere. The Turks are also in full swing, until they were once given to understand that there would be no engines if they did not stop supplying their Bayraktars to Azerbaijan for the war with Karabakh. I don't know how it ended, but they don't seem to have their own.

[Barberry25]

I think that the export version will differ in communication and control systems ..

[Zaurbek]

Sirius has to be produced somewhere else for yourself …….

[newcomer]

Well, by itself.

[Barberry25]

there is nothing to secret - the history of the engines is old, all the more this is not a C-70 ... to secret

[venik]

Quote: Roma-1977

What are the engines? Didn't write. And is it important.

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Yes, there were rumors that VK-800 ... But how much of this is true - I don't know ...

[YOU]

Well, that's a cool thing. Hurry to mass production.

[Thrifty]

And when will they start releasing Altius? Or will it be in a single copy until the end of time?

[Flooding]

Quote: Thrifty

And when will they start releasing Altius? Or will it be in a single copy until the end of time?

so in February there was information about the signing of a contract for the supply of the pilot batch.
at the same time they even talked about the final appearance of the latest version of "Altius-RU"
logically, the UAV is now being tested
I will assume that the military
with this Altair-Altius in general it turned out confused

[Kurare]

Quote: Flood

with this Altair-Altius in general it turned out confused

Yes, there is a very muddy story coming out. The state has allocated money, but the result is "not much".

Whether it is "Kronstadt". The most interesting thing is that Sirius is generally an innovative development. Well done.

[newcomer]

More precisely_ "Sirius" _ is the development of the initiative development of the Kronstadt "Orion", which is adopted at the moment.

[Kurare]

I don't know about Orion. But, probably, they, too, initially did not see a penny from the state for its development.

[newcomer]

So it is_ pure initiative at its own expense.
I would like to add some good news, only I read it at Vzglyad: “Kronstadt” has begun work on the draft design for “Thunder”.

[Kurare]

Quote: newbie

"Kronstadt" began work on the draft design for "Thunder".

Good luck to them and the Ministry of Defense of flying, not design, UAVs.

[Nikolaevich I]

The info about the Orion and Sirius UAVs says that these drones can be controlled from a single control point ... Not bad! It is also desirable that the functional name of the UAV would be more punctual! The reconnaissance and strike complex (RUK) and the strike and reconnaissance complex (URC) are, nevertheless, "slightly" different complexes! Who is who ?

[Barberry25]

so Sirius is Orion with 2 engines in fact ..

[Castro Ruiz]

Washed up in combat in Syria.

[newcomer]

Already and in full.

[newcomer]

Not bad, not bad. So you look_ and we'll wait for "Thunder". Although it will be nominated to accompany SU57 / 35, "Thunder" is a good match for "Chess". Although, as conceived by the developers, his main work will be the management of the Molniya complex (a swarm of UAVs). But the IL76 will probably have to launch the "Lightning".

[Bear]

with satellite control and the ability to interact with manned aircraft

This is the key in this product. It is not a problem to increase mass and power, but to "get rid" of the control center by more than 250 km. and to provide an information channel for exchange with other aircraft, such as the Link-16 "minke", this is a big deal. Good luck to the designers and engineers.

[Zaurbek]

The key thing and everything that is larger (up to C70) is just a matter of a glider and more powerful theater or turbojet engines ... .. as at GlobalHoke