Will the Russian army carry out a general cleaning in the North Caucasus?

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After the president included Defense Minister Anatoly Serdyukov and Chief of the General Staff Nikolai Makarov as part of the National Anti-Terrorism Committee, rumors spread that in a short time Russian units of the regular army could return to the North Caucasus in order to suppress the hotbeds of terrorist activity. Without naming the source, Nezavisimaya Gazeta directly indicates that Russian troops will assist the units of the Ministry of Internal Affairs in the North Caucasus republics due to the fact that in recent years the number of attacks by bandits has increased dramatically. The number of victims among law enforcement officers after the terrorist attacks in Dagestan, Ingushetia and other North Caucasian regions of the Federation is growing.

Information about the possible return of military units in the North Caucasus caused a wide discussion among specialists and among ordinary citizens.

The new phase of the military operation, if any, should be based not only on well-trained fighters, but also on accurate intelligence data. In order to carry out the operation in the optimal mode, it is possible that a decision will be made to involve the special forces of the Main Intelligence Directorate. Although there is a regulatory framework according to which GRU fighters must carry out operations outside of Russia, the same can be said about absolutely any army unit, because its task is solely to defend against an external aggressor. However, the world has changed so much that the concepts of “external aggression” and “internal aggression” can be classified as philosophical, and therefore the main thing is the destruction of the underground gangs in the North Caucasus, and which units will take part in this destruction is the tenth thing. At the same time, one, as they say, manpower is clearly not enough, therefore, the arrival of new military equipment in the North Caucasus in this case should be expected.

True, is it possible with a high degree of confidence to say that the introduction of a regular army in the North Caucasus will solve the problem of leveling terrorist activity. The fact is that in recent years there has been an approximately the following trend: if a group of thugs in one of the North Caucasian republics is destroyed, then after a while another group appears. The numerical and national composition of this group, network contacts and much more can change, but only the tendency of the formation of a new terrorist ulcer after the removal of the old ulcer is doubtful. Obviously, even if the entire North Caucasus is equipped with checkpoints and the introduction of GRU special forces units into populated areas, unfortunately, North Caucasian terrorism will not disappear anywhere. Why? Yes, because the root of any terrorist activity is social problems. These problems can be artificially cultivated with the involvement of ideas of interfaith and inter-ethnic hatred. To consolidate the people, to give them the opportunity to learn, work and earn in civilized ways, it takes years and even decades, but in order to wreak havoc, sometimes one awkward statement or action is enough that will immediately be taken up by the forces in this chaos.

There is also an alternative opinion on the possible introduction of units of the Russian army in the North Caucasian republics. Many experts believe that the level of terrorist threat that exists in the North Caucasus today cannot be called critical, and therefore the units of the Ministry of Internal Affairs, with better coordination of their actions, could restore order here with the active support of the local authorities and the population. But here one of the main problems of the modern North Caucasus appears. Local political elites can not always begin a constructive dialogue with each other, so that the long-awaited peace prevails on this long-suffering land. Confirmation of these words is quite a serious conflict that erupted between the heads of the two republics - Ingushetia and Chechnya. Kadyrov and Yevkurov can not divide the spheres of influence, as well as the territory in which they are called upon to build a constitutional order, accusing each other of non-constructive policies in relation to restoring this order. At the same time, the conflict has gone so far that the heads of the republics demand from each other all the necessary demarcation measures governing the administrative border between the Chechen Republic and Ingushetia. And everyone wants to carry out these demarcation measures exclusively independently without the use of specialists from the other side.

Since the situation between Chechnya and Ingushetia has only been aggravated in recent days, the Russian editions, including the Military Review, raised the question of the need for the federal center to intervene as soon as possible in the dispute between Yevkurov and Kadyrov so that the verbal skirmish does not become a full-scale military conflict with many victims. In this regard, it is quite possible to say that the Caucasus-2012 exercises can become a kind of medicine for the disagreeable heads of Chechnya and Ingushetia, after which military units may well remain in the boundary area between the two indicated republics so that together with the Ingush and Chechen security forces conduct joint operations to destroy gang groups in both Ingushetia and Chechnya.

By the way, the mentioned exercises “Kavkaz-2012”, in which about 8 thousands of servicemen will be involved, hundreds of units of military equipment, the latest monitoring systems for coordinating the actions of military units are already causing concern to some states. The word “some” first of all implies neighboring Georgia, the representative of the Foreign Ministry of which Nino Kalandadze stated that Georgia has every reason to be cautious. This caution is due to the fact that after the exercise the region may be oversaturated weapons. At the same time, other Georgian politicians who represent the party of power declare that Russia under the guise of exercises in the North Caucasus is preparing a provocation against Georgia in order to establish full control over this country.

The whole world has long been heard of the hysterical statements of a whole range of Georgian politicians, and few people see a special reason to sprinkle ashes on these statements from these statements. However, Russia also has its own alarmists, who are inclined to see in the Caucasus-2012 preparation of Russia's attack on Georgia. These people today include a highly respected person, Heydar Jemal, who heads the Russian Islamic Committee. Jemal predicts the following scenario: Russian troops are beginning to exercise on their territory, they are confronted with militant groups that are retreating to Georgia under the onslaught of federal forces. Further, according to Heydar Jemal, representatives of the Russian divisions may come into conflict with the Georgian security forces, which will provoke a new war in the Caucasus ...

The head of the Islamic Committee, after such a forecast, and even the words that President Putin is ready to arrange a "forceful disassembly with Georgia", looks like a person with a very rich imagination. It would seem that the head of the Islamic Committee, by definition, should refrain from such radical statements, but for some reason Mr. Jemal was drawn to very controversial divinations, which only add fuel to the fire.

Strange thing: many prophets spoke about the weakness of Russia, when, due to a number of reasons, Russia was not able to conduct large-scale exercises. At the same time, Russia's weakness was criticized both on the right and on the left. Now, when the possibility of conducting exercises with the involvement of a large number of forces and means has appeared, new opinions arise (and often from the same forecasters): Russia suddenly began to behave aggressively and is ready to tear apart its remote democracies ... It is strange that the end of the world according to the Mayan calendar, they were not connected with the Russian exercises in the North Caucasus and the possible introduction of army units into the region for a long time ...
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  1. +39
    7 September 2012 08: 46
    The Caucasus is a region that needs to be kept tight. Especially in the light of events in the Middle East. No need to get them out of there at all ....
    1. +22
      7 September 2012 08: 52
      Quote: nycsson
      Russia suddenly began to behave aggressively and was ready to tear apart its democratized neighbors ...

      Let them be afraid of what they will kick. And as for the Caucasus, one should not allow foreign policy there. Protect. It is also necessary to strengthen the economy of the region, to work in an ideological direction, and to recruit (collaborate) neighbors on their side up to the Indian Ocean. Iran is already for good
      1. +19
        7 September 2012 09: 07
        I am grateful to Alexei for the article, not as a simple statement of fact, but as an attempt to give a sober assessment, taking into account diverse opinions.
        Especially my attention was attracted by the words

        A strange thing: many soothsayers talked about Russia's weakness, when, for a number of reasons, it was not possible to conduct large-scale exercises. Moreover, Russia's weakness was criticized both on the right and on the left. Now, when the possibility of conducting exercises involving a large number of forces and means has appeared, new opinions arise (and often from the same forecasters): Russia suddenly began to behave aggressively and was ready to tear to pieces its democratized neighbors.

        and that I want to answer them. In my opinion, in both cases, all these "soothsayers" were driven by the same feeling - to "invite the voivode to the kingdom" from across the hill. In the first case, under the slogan “You don’t know how, so invite and you will be happy,” in the other case, under the slogan “The people! Who runs the country ?! Completely chauvinists and stranglers of freedoms! over the hill! And we will be happy! "
        As you can see, in both cases they tried to make us happy, but we did not understand the bright motives. "EH! My life ...!"
        1. not good
          +2
          7 September 2012 19: 15
          Russian monarchists rejected Prince Harry as a contender for the Russian throne, due to his misbehavior laughing
        2. mars6791
          +1
          7 September 2012 23: 05
          then in the forehead. They have already tried twice to restore constitutional order, with losses, emotional wounds, the question has been brought up, the rhetoric is required to be brought up for the third time. I will not forget the betrayal by ... a corrupt government, business, and just traitors. Are you going to put things in order? I'm not, enough of me.
      2. mars6791
        +2
        7 September 2012 22: 49
        To strengthen the region’s economy, what pompous words, you’ve been in the Russian middle ground for a long time, and you probably saw the ideology there, but the war didn’t kill all the fools.
    2. +2
      7 September 2012 10: 33
      True, is it possible to say with great certainty that the introduction of a regular army in the North Caucasus will allow


      I somehow didn’t understand in what sense the troops were withdrawn, now there is enough of the number of units of various branches of the armed forces in the North Caucasus, who are interested, I can list offhand, there’s another question, what kind of army of the Ministry of Internal Affairs do we need if the military should work anyway.
      Of course, nothing can be done without troops (the cap apparently came to them again), and about politics in the comments everything was written correctly, well, you need to do Auger ... Delaying death for Russia is like ...
      1. Igorboss16
        +6
        7 September 2012 12: 26
        to begin with, let them cut off the supplies of finances from abroad, and then they will introduce the army, because if there is no supply the militants will have nothing to catch there
        1. +2
          7 September 2012 15: 11
          Financing in the current state of the banking system is very difficult to block, intelligence must work with terrible force, almost unrealistic. But to extinguish in the bud any attempt to use these funds is quite possible! On the other hand, the abundance of troops in this territory can simply increase the number of opportunities for corruption. Everything is complicated here ... But Georgia would be silent in a rag about aggression, they themselves have full pants of troubles! Apparently they are going to redistribute funds for the army under this matter again. In addition to the introduction of troops, it is necessary to strengthen the Georgian border so that it is not a sieve on both sides. Everyone who tries to cross it from either side must be destroyed on the spot! only in this way there will be no supply of reinforcements, both by militants and weapons.
          1. bachast
            +2
            7 September 2012 19: 18
            it is necessary to strengthen the Georgian border

            Where to strengthen even more? For example, only the Argun POGO is the largest in the world. The most numerous (I don’t know how now, there were about five thousand people) are all together the Finnish border guards, for example.
    3. mars6791
      -3
      7 September 2012 22: 46
      Today the situation, by the way, is worse in Russia than in the 95s, which the Russian government can offer, besides tanks, policemen and corruption from the Kremlin to the local manager, to the Caucasian people, nothing but poverty, and the venerable military do not seem to you, sometimes, that the Caucasus keeps you in hedgehogs and not you him.
      1. curious
        0
        8 September 2012 15: 24
        In the article I did not notice the answers to the question: what to do and what does it mean "the introduction of military units of the Ministry of Defense"? In May or June, I remember, units of the Ministry of Internal Affairs were already transferred to Dagestan, and now what? The grouping of forces and equipment in the North Caucasus is already the largest in the country, or is it now to place a company of soldiers in each village? By the way, Kadyrov started the dispute about borders once, as I understand it, is the socio-economic situation in the province already wonderful? Plants and factories, roads and schools are being built? What is the development of agriculture in Chechnya? Or are we all distracted from something else by the question of boundaries? The losses in August were record-breaking, and now there is another ambush on the convoy in Ingushetia, in the video from the scene of the tragedy - the URAL is lying burning in a ditch and on the roof. These are the "methods" for solving problems, called
  2. sahha
    +8
    7 September 2012 08: 48
    representatives of Russian units may come into conflict with the Georgian security forces, which will provoke a new war in the Caucasus ...

    Jemal, apparently, is sleeping and sees a war in the Caucasus.
    Interestingly, G. Dzhemal, why then the troops stopped (2008) on the approach to Tbilisi, and yet there was an opportunity to solve everything on the spot ?!
    1. Svistoplyaskov
      +4
      7 September 2012 09: 19

      Something I do not like this .. Heydar
      1. +3
        7 September 2012 12: 34
        He will have a green ribbon on his forehead and he will definitely be in his place!
        And how gracefully they dragged Georgia again! Well, nothing without her, a disease suffering from depressive psychosis about the "possible" arrival of the Russian army! Only they don't want to think with their heads! It would have been a long time since Turkey had taken everything - if they had wanted to.
        These teachings are necessary. Besides the fact that this is a training of troops, this is not a weak warning to any inadequate politicians.
    2. +5
      7 September 2012 10: 18
      Quote: sahha
      Interestingly, G. Dzhemal, why then the troops stopped (2008) on the approach to Tbilisi, and yet there was an opportunity to solve everything on the spot ?!

      I think next time Russia will finish the job! Georgia begs it!
    3. +1
      7 September 2012 15: 13
      Jemal needs to reassure his children, and not think about aggression, and so spit on the North Caucasus - hiss!
  3. +4
    7 September 2012 08: 49
    we need to give local work, they climb into terrorists from idleness and lack of money, but about Georgians ..... their president eats ties, but Georgian friends of the site will forgive me
    1. BAT
      +10
      7 September 2012 09: 31
      And they will work, these local? They go to Moscow, where the sea works, and do not particularly run to work. But lezginka dance in crowded places, break the laws and join the criminality - they are in the forefront.
      In the recent past, there was sheer unemployment in all of Russia, but no one was engaged in terrorism. People tried by hook or by crook to feed their families.
      The terrorists are either scumbags, or cut money quickly. And the money, it should be noted, is not small ...
    2. +5
      7 September 2012 10: 12
      This is understandable, but only a half measure, it seems to me. I believe that without the physical elimination of foreign patrons, the issue of terrorism on Russian territory cannot be resolved. This is the work of foreign intelligence and other special services. Although, I will partly agree with those people who say that, given today's realities, it is something from the realm of fantasy. A full-scale introduction of troops, I think, will give little. Well, a dozen bearded men will be soaked in the toilet. So what? Twenty will come in their place. And they will grow a longer beard. I could be wrong.
      1. curious
        +3
        8 September 2012 15: 34
        And again, foreign patrons are on the arena. Don't site visitors know anything about "flash drives from the forest"? I apologize, of course, but this greasy and grimy story about "foreign patrons" is simply ridiculous. Most of the funding for the militants comes from the Russian budget! Local officials and "businessmen" who are getting rich on razderbanivanie budget funds - for a long time and regularly pay "forest" for the right to their lives. If you don't pay, you will be killed, the conversation is short. Videos from these flash drives are easy to find on the Web and see for yourself that the militants are stupidly extorting money from the shadow "managers" of funds coming from the state budget. And where do they get their weapons, also from Georgia? 11 years after the official end of the war, there is a partisan, and we keep repeating a worn-out record, and our guys continue to die, it is not clear why
        1. Evil Tatar
          +1
          8 September 2012 17: 33
          Quote: curious
          Don't site visitors know anything about "flash drives from the forest"?

          Yes, where are we from? There is no such money, what would they say about flash drives ...
          Maybe in more detail?
    3. 0
      10 September 2012 10: 51
      Quote: sasha 19871987
      we need to give local work, they climb into terrorists from idleness and lack of money, but about Georgians ..... their president eats ties, but Georgian friends of the site will forgive me

      absolutely correct! and then how I do not look, continuous "refugees" on "small" foreign cars roll out .... and all of their "poor" offend.
  4. Svistoplyaskov
    +2
    7 September 2012 08: 56
    With such inter-confessional and interethnic diversity of this region, the presence of a centralized force should positively affect the security of the peaceful local population who want, like all subjects of the Russian Federation, to enjoy life peacefully and raise children. The state is obliged to ensure their safety.
    So, in my opinion, “spring cleaning” will not hurt after all: Cleanliness is the guarantee of health!
  5. +3
    7 September 2012 08: 57
    The dog barks, the caravan goes.
    Russia does its work according to its own understanding. What should she do, decide the leadership of the country and the Supreme Commander-in-Chief, and not all sorts of reasoning and condemned. Let the enemies waving their arms, splashing their saliva, stomping their legs, but we do not care.
    Alexei Volodin, plus, the article is good.
  6. +7
    7 September 2012 08: 58
    The root of the social component is strange. We were unemployed and poor just recently, but we didn’t go to blow up and kill. They pay big money for terror + brainwashing.
    1. dmb
      +15
      7 September 2012 10: 56
      And here I agree with you. With the amount of money that was thrown into Chechnya, it was possible to build so many industries there that there would be 10 jobs for every Chechen. But why do that. when there are easier ways to get rich. I have never been a supporter of theories that any nationality is completely incapable of this or that activity. Rather, it depends on the level of culture and mentality. Before the era of democracy, Grozny had a powerful oil refinery complex, but there were practically no Chechens working there. The knitwear factory built in Nazran and equipped with the most modern Italian equipment became unprofitable in a year. Where do the Chechens and Ingush prefer to work? Trade, construction, and civil service. And more and more as masters and bosses. Name me at least one whose initial capital was not obtained by criminal means. However, this is no longer from nationality. In my opinion, Volodin's article is weak. I wanted to say something that Georgians are fools, and Dzhemal is a bastard. Not new. It is also common knowledge that the authorities do not know how to restore order in the Caucasus. For it must be directed rigidly, and this is not "democratic." And what about a wish that an army should stand between the Ingush and Chechens fighting on the administrative border? Volodin himself will clearly not be standing there. In this situation, it is more expedient to hit Kadyrov (as the initiator of the bazaar) with a jug and inform all local bogdikhans that the borders will not change this way. But again - you understand democracy.
      1. +21
        7 September 2012 12: 39
        Dmitry, you are right to tell you big +! But, there is one small nuance. The fact is that in the 90s, when our troops there were making ends meet, and were also more than once betrayed by the then top leadership, headed by Alkash EBEn and those who are not in poverty in England, the situation could be rectified in one way, and exactly:
        Firstly, the so-called world community pressured us, as well as our direct enemies SASHA and NATA, take it off from the others and the Management had the only way out, however sad it may sound, but to sit down at the negotiating table with the bearded killers of the Russian people (Children, women and old people) !! Thus, an nth amount of time was won in order to restore order throughout Russia, put water in a glass of world politics and gain strength! Of course, this period was not without disgust. For example, the supply of weapons to bearded men from the warehouses of the Russian Federation with the connivance of officials, drug trafficking from the adjoining territories, as well as turning a blind eye to separatism developing exponentially!
        Secondly, when Putin arrived and at least some kind of order was established in the country, and our admirers of SASHA and NATA were disappointed with the policy of the latter. The second (Czech) company began and everything was already an order of magnitude higher. So, against the bearded ghouls, the same bearded were formed only with the difference that they were pro-Russian. And this mood was given to us for a reason! The leadership, headed by Putin, played on the contradictions inside the diasporas in Chechnya and supported the most intelligent ones who realized that sooner or later they would be crushed and in their interests bow to the Federal Center! So, at the cost of the lives of thousands of our citizens, we managed to level the situation and further strengthen our positions!
        Thirdly, the third phase should soon begin in the North Caucasus since no one was going to endlessly pour money into this black hole, and again I will again buy time to collect all my will and mind into one powerful fist, this was done on Hooray. Now, when there are clear political centers in the Caucasus, and they are seated on a subsidized needle, our leadership will gradually tighten the nuts and pursue a competent Social, Economic and Counter-Terrorism Policy!
        Thus, I believe that in no case it is impossible, so it’s hilarious to express how some members of the forum do about sending troops into the territory of the North Caucasus and thereby mean Chechnya or Dagestan! I assure you that the troops still didn’t go anywhere there otherwise the darkness would start again. But the world cannot be built there with tanks, and even more so, jobs cannot be created. It takes time, it takes patience and a clear position of the Guide. So it was always breaking, not building, at first they gave slack, the great power collapsed, the brotherly peoples pushed their foreheads together, and now we want everything at once as before! No 10 years of war will now cost us at least 30 years of very subtle flirting.
        1. dmb
          +2
          7 September 2012 15: 17
          Well, I'll start right away with the "third". I spoke about jobs and my argument, alas, is not refuted by you. Apparently for the lack of real counter-arguments. As for a competent policy in the areas you indicated, so far these are only good wishes, not supported by realities. I will note your and my wishes, not the current government. I agree in one thing, this is a long process, and with the current socio-political structure of our country, achieving a positive result is unlikely. As for the second. Certainly higher. for it could not be otherwise. Do not we start strangling them, Russia was not there today. What would the GDP manage then, and who needed it within the Moscow ulus. As for the formed pro-Russian ghouls, their role in our Victory is not so great. And they have not ceased to be ghouls. They get a lot of dough, and this suits them so far. But alas, such is the man. Having collected the dough, he wants to use it to achieve POWER. If this were not so, Abramovich would not have sued Bereza. and Kadyrov would not have snagged with Yevkurov. And the last thing. The 90s began not in 94, but in 91. Then there was a powerful anti-Dudaev opposition, and strangling him and his shoblu did not cost much within the law. No world community was pressing at that moment. But the scum in the Kremlin didn't need it. Thus they allegedly fought against communism. By the way, no one answered for that. And they are all here and not in London.
          1. 0
            7 September 2012 16: 03
            Yes, Dmitry, unfortunately all that you said is bitter, really. But I, too, can be understood, I do not refute what you said, but only supplement it with what happened in the period after EBENA. Of course, my analytics looks clumsy, but in fact everything happened just like that and everything goes to this. Of course, if you dig deeper, then everything that you said about the opposition and closing your eyes is true. The fact that not ghouls crushed bearded men, and our guys is the truth, but still without their help and their control today we would clearly have a hot spot not in favor of the well-being of Russia and its citizens!
        2. mars6791
          +1
          7 September 2012 23: 10
          I am not a supporter of Putin, but in your statements there are correct and sober thoughts, and I completely agree with the last paragraph of your comment. +
        3. REPA1963
          +1
          7 September 2012 23: 33
          Ostap carried !!!
        4. 0
          13 September 2012 23: 13
          + .. Everything is consistently and logically stated.
  7. bachast
    +2
    7 September 2012 09: 01
    perhaps a decision will be made to engage special forces of the Main Intelligence Directorate. Although there is a regulatory framework according to which GRU fighters must carry out operations outside of Russia

    It was interestingly presented about such a decision), because neither the first nor the second in Chechnya, and not only that, could not do without the Special Staff of the GRU.
  8. +3
    7 September 2012 09: 06
    many soothsayers talked about Russia's weakness when, for a number of reasons, it was not able to conduct large-scale exercises. Moreover, Russia's weakness was criticized both on the right and on the left. Now, when the possibility of conducting exercises involving a large number of forces and means has appeared, new opinions arise (and often from the same forecasters): Russia suddenly began to behave aggressively and was ready to tear apart its democratized neighbors ...

    But simply did not try to close the mouths of the soothsayers? or make a bad and quick demise?
  9. Lakkuchu
    +9
    7 September 2012 09: 09
    First of all, a general cleaning must be done in the ranks of the corrupt local leadership, officials, the FSB, the Ministry of Internal Affairs, the prosecutor's office and others. To put things in order in the legal sphere, to force all the listed "untouchables" to comply with the laws. In the North Caucasus, people have long no longer believed in either the authorities or the siloviki.
    1. +2
      7 September 2012 09: 20
      yes, I’ve heard about such an interesting thing — in order to become precinct in Dagestan, you have to pay about 300 thousand ....
      1. Fox
        +1
        7 September 2012 10: 03
        We have Togliatti, in order to become a traffic cop, we must pay 260t.r.
        1. 0
          7 September 2012 12: 40
          Have you tried to get yourself? Where did the information come from?
      2. +7
        7 September 2012 12: 38
        In order to become a precinct in Dagestan, inhuman courage and faith in one's immortality are needed.
    2. +3
      7 September 2012 09: 50
      First of all, the general cleaning must be done in the ranks of the corrupt local leadership
      ___________
      Yes, I think this intention should be transferred to our entire country, especially in Moscow

      and as for the Caucasus, I think the participation of the Ministry of Defense is not yet necessary, we need to increase the local Ministry of Internal Affairs and

      yes it is interesting to hear the slogans from stupid people waving ridges д d-stop feeding the Caucasus, and for separating it ???

      Well, if you do so, then other republics will follow this process, and there will be nothing left from Russia, this must be understood
      1. +8
        7 September 2012 10: 07
        Quote: Rustam
        then other republics will follow this process, and there will be nothing left of Russia, this must be understood


        Do you want to tell Rustam the most terrible secret ????

        Without political correctness, so to speak ..... let them at least blame them, but I’ll say ..

        RUSSIA WILL NOT DECLINE ..... US RUSSIAN 86 percent of the population .... more than 100 million people ..... so, in principle, even if all the republics are separated, RUSSIA STAYS and even may not lose much.

        Let there be losses (for example, the same KAMAZ in Tatarstan), but we will build new ones.

        You don’t get me wrong, I don’t want this, but I simply state the fact that nothing terrible will happen.

        This is so .... my thoughts are without a tolerant and RUSSIAN wrapper.
        1. 0
          7 September 2012 13: 55
          Russia, of course, will remain where it will disappear
          just decrease by half and that's it
        2. 0
          7 September 2012 19: 49
          Quote: volkan
          You don’t get me wrong, I don’t want this, but I simply state the fact that nothing terrible will happen.

          What nonsense !? And this hernyu is written by an adult! I'm in shock ...... foolI’m wondering, what kind of cranks have you got the pluses?
    3. DIMS
      +2
      7 September 2012 10: 38
      That's for sure, corruption there even against the background of a high nationwide is simply prohibitive
      1. +3
        7 September 2012 14: 04
        Russia, of course, will remain where it will disappear
        just decrease by half and that's it
        Imagine that we separate the Caucasus from itself - Chechnya, Dagestan, the KBR, the KCR, Ingushetia, and possibly Ossetia.
        A precedent has been created - another 15 republics of the Russian Federation, which together with the North Caucasus constitute almost a third of its territory, has the right to achieve independence on the basis of its granting to other republics and it will be foolish to argue with them and a third of the country has already been cut off, with a very good resource profit and a large the number of Russian population. Well, what can you do ?! If you really want to, then you can!

        then for what our ancestors increased the borders of the Russian Empire and so on
        in the photo, what to separate from the Russian Federation, For the sake of which then they fought in Chechnya, now why do you fight terrorism-EVERYBODY RUNNING OUT AT YOURSELF AND THE END-right thing

        no my friend it won't work
        1. +4
          7 September 2012 14: 32
          Rustam
          And here you are not quite right.
          Have you heard of any attempts by the Buryats, for example? No.
          The Caucasus is the loudest here ... well, Tatarstan began so .... to subsovereignty.
          Neither Siberia nor the Urals nor the North are going to go anywhere.
          1. +4
            7 September 2012 14: 53
            it’s not going to yet, read my previous statements, that's why we need to keep everything that is, the descendants will not forgive us, but Russia can also be shouted for Russians (immediately minus half the country as on the map) and we will all live on our own

            in the world for a small piece of land unfolding war-and you want to lower everything
            150 indigenous peoples live in the Russian Federation, and I'm sorry to give someone on the head and for someone (excuse the banality) you need to wipe
            Tatarstan started talking about secession since 89, it’s Shaimiev who has calmed many down there
            And friends from abroad who will give money for the collapse of our country, you yourself know there are quite a few, for example, Chukchi’s separation from Russia and the creation of its autonomy-Chukotka minus with its wealth
            I say you can run away - you have to think globally, my friend
        2. 0
          13 September 2012 20: 17
          you probably have Yakutia on the card at number 14, but there are 10 percent of Yakuts there., these borders were drawn from the bulldozer. under number 10 Karelia, how many Karelians are there? and 11 is the Komi republic ... Lenin painted this in 20 years, not when there were no republics. and there will be nothing to separate there.
          The situation in the Caucasus is one, but there is another and everything in the common boiler should not be disturbed.
  10. sahha
    0
    7 September 2012 09: 33
    a decision will be made on the use of special forces of the Main Intelligence Directorate


    GRU sort of disbanded, or am I ... in the tank !?
    1. +1
      7 September 2012 09: 46
      I have bad news for you wink
      http://www.structure.mil.ru/structure/ministry_of_defence/details.htm?id=9711@eg

      Organization
      You are still in the tank!)
      1. 0
        7 September 2012 14: 45
        Quote: RETX
        http://www.structure.mil.ru/structure/ministry_of_defence/details.htm?id=9711@eg


        Organization

        Something on your link is nothing .............
        But the GRU special forces were disbanded for sure, some units were shortened, others were transferred to the Airborne Forces.
        1. bachast
          0
          7 September 2012 18: 25
          And the GRU special forces disbanded for sure

          thanks for the info! I’ll call the guys, I’ll say that they’re not destiny from today
          1. 0
            7 September 2012 19: 46
            Quote: bachast
            thanks for the info! I’ll call the guys, I’ll say that they’re not destiny from today

            You can call them. Only these guys are now not from the GRU special forces, but from the airborne forces! And this is a big difference.
            1. bachast
              +3
              7 September 2012 20: 50
              Only these guys are now not from the GRU special forces, but from the airborne


              I can answer this only in your own words
              What nonsense !? And this hernyu is written by an adult! I'm in shock ......

              wink "Rye there, vegetables"
              1. 0
                7 September 2012 21: 41
                Quote: bachast
                I can answer this only in your own words

                Oh well! Let's figure out who is right. Don't you know that all the GRU special forces brigades transferred to the Airborne Forces?
    2. bachast
      +3
      7 September 2012 09: 48
      most likely in this wink
      1. +1
        7 September 2012 21: 53
        bachast,
        I found the information. I admit that I was not quite right. And that's why.....

        As already mentioned, Russia has only 4 Special Forces brigades left, of which two in 1994 were transferred from the GRU to the Airborne Forces. Thus, at present there are two brigades in the GRU - the 16th, stationed in Chuchkovo (Ryazan Region), and the 22nd, stationed in Kubinka (Moscow Region).

        And here's another for information .....
        Unfortunately, the current leadership of the Ministry of Defense failed to prove the fallacy of such approaches and decisions made. In order to accelerate “optimization” in 2009, the GRU leadership was replaced, which tried to prevent the collapse of the Office. The new leadership turned out to be more compliant, and the reform went through the GRU in the most tragic way. Key departments were reduced to a critical minimum, some of them were completely liquidated. Thousands of officers were fired. Today, every second officer is fired. All experimental design and research work in a specialized research institute was discontinued. From this terrible blow, we still have not recovered. And the present GRU is only a faint shadow of that GRU, to which I gave decades of my life.

        Link: http://www.3rm.info/16010-za-kulisami-gru.html
        1. bachast
          +1
          8 September 2012 06: 39
          Yes, why do I need this information? How many here on the website discussed the current situation of special forces ... There are Ussuriysk, Irkutsk, Tambov, Pskov, Rostov, Kras
          1. bachast
            0
            8 September 2012 06: 56
            And these brigades and detachments have nothing to do with the airborne
          2. 0
            8 September 2012 08: 14
            Quote: bachast
            There are Ussuriysk, Irkutsk, Tambov, Pskov, Rostov, Kras

            God forbid ......... hi
  11. biglow
    +1
    7 September 2012 10: 26
    again, the oppositionists are fomenting, they do not need a military unit to fight terrorists. There are enough mobile special forces there and there are so many that can only increase their number. And the troops in the Caucasus have nothing to do
    1. DIMS
      0
      7 September 2012 11: 01
      To block areas.
  12. +1
    7 September 2012 10: 44
    We must, we must ... Otherwise, they have "anti-terrorist" exercises almost every week (and almost according to one scenario, apparently it is more convenient, it is more difficult to make a mistake: the reporting is in order, and the guests at the exercises are happy). The army, no matter how sad it sounds for soldiers' mothers, needs a periodic combat check of the material covered. Of course, this is not the business of the army units, but the Ministry of Internal Affairs and special forces. Although the countries of Latin America have quite a lot of experience in attracting the army to fight against armed bandit formations and terrorist organizations, however, there is a different specificity. the reason for the confrontation is different, but still based on the money and poverty of the local population.
    1. REPA1963
      +1
      7 September 2012 23: 28
      Only there shouldn’t be dairy farmers at the call, and then mothers and pros will cry less.
  13. +4
    7 September 2012 10: 47
    There, somewhere higher in the text, the comrade patriot took care of the integrity of Russia and condemned slogans like "enough to feed the Caucasus, sovereignty, secession, etc., etc."
    The question that wrote this was ever in Ryazan, Tula, Vladimir, Tambov provinces? After Grozny, the city of feeling is, to put it mildly, not very, and Vanessa May and Van Dam were not there.
    The integrity of the Russian Federation is not discussed, but what about the talk about effective investments, the payback of state programs? After the modern Caucasian wars, this region was "drowned" in money, and there was no return. No order, no economy. And in the mountains there are not "hungry abreks" running around. In my opinion, the region needs SPECIAL attention, and it needs to be managed in some other way. BUT MONEY H hi ADO TO EARN !!!!
  14. +2
    7 September 2012 10: 52
    Oh, I don’t know, I don’t know, it's hard to judge.
    Let the army be better there, as they say, it is better to overtake than not to finish.
    In this situation, both the army is in good shape and the scum will not be very crap.
  15. 0
    7 September 2012 10: 53
    In any case, the Caucasus 2012 exercise will take place. And if the troops are left on the border of Chechnya and Ingushetia, it will not get worse. The legendary GRU without him is like Russia without ears, they would be sent to Turkey, there would be more sense.
    1. 0
      7 September 2012 14: 35
      Quote: ars_pro
      The legendary GRU without him, Russia without ears, they would have been sent to Turkey, there would have been more sense.

      And what should they do there in this Turkey? To Syria is another matter. Or maybe they are already there, they won’t tell us about it .......
  16. in reserve
    +1
    7 September 2012 11: 28
    Jemal predicts the following scenario: Russian troops begin exercises on their territory, clash with militant groups, which, under the onslaught of federal forces, are leaving for Georgia. Further, according to Heydar Dzhemal, representatives of Russian units may come into conflict with the Georgian security forces, which will provoke a new war in the Caucasus ...


    If you would like they would have captured Georgia in 2008. but Russia does not need this for voluntary reunification on an equal footing, unlike the states that everywhere create vassals for themselves. And around Russia they perceive it as an empire of dictatorship.
    1. -1
      7 September 2012 14: 37
      Quote: in stock
      If you would like they would have captured Georgia in 2008.

      Why is she needed? But the power would have to be changed! They put a lot of our guys, but what's the point? This Misha is again arming the Georgian army .........
      1. REPA1963
        0
        7 September 2012 23: 25
        Have you put anything in Chechnya? Is there any sense? And will it be? Again, then the grandmothers put down there. In general, I look at the warrior a lot for claudia, Teddy bear tongues were fucked up all ass.
        1. -1
          8 September 2012 08: 18
          Quote: REPA1963
          Have you put anything in Chechnya?

          Not a little ......
          Quote: REPA1963
          Is there any sense? And will it be?

          There is no sense, Chechnya is not under control ...
  17. 0
    7 September 2012 11: 43
    and introduce GRU special forces units in settlements

    It would be something to introduce, you look and would drive the bearded man, thanks to the reforms of the lord Taburetki.
    It’s good that troops are brought in, let them gain experience and beat terrorists, otherwise they have already sat in their offices. At the same time, new weapons and equipment will be checked.
  18. +2
    7 September 2012 12: 03
    Quote: nycsson
    No need to get them out of there at all ....

    It was necessary to enter only when only cockroaches remained alive after aviation and artillery. And those in limited quantities.
    And as for "no need to withdraw" ... how many of the local armchair strategists would agree to take part in such an honorable operation?
    Volodin is a plus.
    1. 0
      7 September 2012 14: 33
      Quote: Understudy
      And as for "no need to withdraw" ... how many of the local armchair strategists would agree to take part in such an honorable operation?

      If the batch begins, then they will not ask anyone whether you want or don’t want to, they will call upon everyone. And the military, so they have nowhere to go at all, they have such a profession - to defend their homeland. And you have to defend! hi
  19. Septugian
    -3
    7 September 2012 12: 22
    Burn all napalm, and there will be no problems. And so it will be an eternal war with chocks!
    1. biglow
      0
      7 September 2012 12: 26
      Septugian,
      then it’s better to tear off the Caucasus and recycle it on the crib
  20. +4
    7 September 2012 12: 29
    Russia is a sovereign country.
    Where, when to conduct exercises and for what purpose only for her to decide. Point !!!
    1. REPA1963
      +2
      7 September 2012 23: 20
      In a sovereign country, in the middle of the capital, lezgins with trunks do not dance .....
      1. 0
        13 September 2012 23: 22
        There are enough morons everywhere ..
  21. +3
    7 September 2012 14: 29
    I have been watching the events in the Middle East quite closely. And almost every day I ask myself: why are they not attacking Iran? Well, or when will they attack Iran? I had guesses, but here for two days in a row I watch programs with Marat Musin and he kind of opened my eyes to my questions. The fact that Iran will be attacked after Syria is dealt with is understandable. However, Russia interferes. Hence we conclude: before attacking Iran, Russia must be "turned off". Now the question arises: how to do this? And the answer is very simple: "blow up" the Caucasus !!! Conclusion: they will go to war against Iran only when Russia gets bogged down in the Caucasus and has neither the strength nor the time for Iran.
    In confirmation of this, I can say the following:
    Almost all sites contain information about the new weapons of Georgia. She will try again to capture Ossetia or the Oblast.
    Next is Nagorno-Karabakh, I think that Azerbaijan will become a kind of fuse or fuse of the situation.
    Well, do not discount radicals. I am convinced that the terrorists are on the move, everything has already been paid and they are only waiting for the team.
    As a result, we get the conflict Georgia-Ossetia-Obkhazia and Armenia-Azerbaijan. And the terrorists will act according to the Libyan and Syrian scenario, tossing firewood into the fire.
    1. +3
      7 September 2012 14: 57
      of course everything is as it should only many misunderstand
      1 - terrorists are being fed from the outside
      2-from the inside, clever people like Russia for Russians and stop feeding the Caucasus, they also add butter to the fire (they would rather go to Dagestan and serve there and defend the interests of their country, but they won’t go there, there’s a clash — better with giraffe and ten of them some janitor, and then with German music we’ll lay out a great feat in the Internet-banal
      1. +1
        7 September 2012 16: 25
        Rustam, it’s true, but the fact is that we ourselves allow us to play music that we don’t like! In society, everything is like ostriches, in case of danger they bury their heads in the sand. So, on the contradictions in the Society, some wiseacres gain their dirty political points. You are right that nationalism and those who shout loudly about it and insult the visitors are not worthy of respect and should be criticized by every citizen of Russia and, above all, from the Power of the possessing elite but:
        First, society does not condemn it, and sometimes it supports it, and why? Yes, because it is no secret that people from the Caucasus and Central Asia most often appear in criminal news reports! Here is the first contradiction on which they are trying to separate us! But in fact, this problem is cultivated and, artificially put in first place means it is beneficial to someone!
        Secondly, take, for example, our "Opposition". I am sick of the sight of Nemtsov, Navalny, Chirikova and the hedgehog, and if you remember that Chirikova is trying to run for the Mayor of Khimki, she really shakes! These people are gaining their political points on the bones of Russia's well-being! For a place to actually do things, they like ticks cling to what seems to be, at first glance, the right thing, and then reap political dividends in their favor! That is, both ours and yours, but as you know, one jo * and on two chairs will not sit! For example, this Chirikova organizes a fund to support the SSA (the so-called Free Syrian Army, which is essentially a bunch of fanatical scumbags, with manic sadistic inclinations, simply cutting out everyone who is not the same beast as they are!) And why should the citizens of Russia this terrorist hostel or Mrs. Chirikova is not so far-sighted that she does not understand who is who! Hardly! It's just that these individuals are used to the fact that the people, that is, we are a herd, and they are trying to manage this herd! Someone like you, I see the setup, that is, they are politically informed about the environment, but, for the most part, the Society is not interested in information that lies beyond its nose, and on this these upstarts from the fifth column make their glasses! All of them are a flock of small predators, and the big predators from the power elite do not touch them insofar as their hand washes their hands!
        1. 0
          7 September 2012 16: 35
          1 is not worth talking about the opposition, these guys steered in the 90s the result is known
          2-now also well done (in quotation marks)
          about it, come here — the line — there are no questions for Russian citizens, and we need to expel others and Asia, but we don’t have the will and desire — they come here everywhere migrants do not work — they write fines and everything is sent to the USA and taken to the US
          it’s easier to pay a Tajik (who is without rights) or a Russian who has rights — they choose the first half of their salary in their pocket
          3-yes, crime is big both from the Caucasus and the Asian (prikhu_li), although they also get their own
          million problems and we need to work on it, and indiscriminately blame someone
          it’s easier than ever, while a country can fall apart
          1. not good
            +1
            7 September 2012 19: 21
            After the second Chechen one, the Chechen republic had to be transformed into the Grozny region, with all the ensuing consequences. Governor Kadyrov’s capabilities were much less than President Kadyrov’s.
            1. REPA1963
              +1
              7 September 2012 23: 18
              He is not the president! He refused this title a year and a half ago.
        2. 0
          11 September 2012 12: 16
          Do not call Chirikova mistress, she is more going citizen
  22. +4
    7 September 2012 19: 26
    I overlooked the article fluently. But the opinion is clear: Alexei, you are completely incompetent. In addition to the title - your article causes only slight irritation.
    What GRU special forces are you talking about? !! About the very one that has not existed in the structure of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation for 2 years? !! Have you read the books of Suvorov?
    Although, reading further (about how you are going to "introduce the GRU special forces into the inhabited localities", not every inflamed brain such an idea will come) I begin to understand - either you are confusing us with the special forces of the VV, or you have no control at all. Both are called in one word - not competence.
    Although, I can partly understand you: before the special forces, he was the special forces: the only, legendary and inimitable! And now every mongrel in the private security company is called "special forces". How can I figure it out? !!
    1. +1
      7 September 2012 22: 57
      What GRU special forces are you talking about? !! About that which 2 of the year already does not exist in the structure of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation? !!


      The Berd Brigade of the GRU has actually been restored. Small but VICTORY.
      I don’t know why all this was needed at all with the beating of the GRU Special Forces and the GRU General Staff in general.
      But something tells me that the pendulum still swung back.
      1. 0
        8 September 2012 06: 15
        Translated - this is not restored, but in essence, I repeat once again: THERE ISN’T NECESSARY FOR GRU. NO !!!!!!!
        They handed us over to the hunters. And the level of training is no longer very different from the usual reconnaissance battalions of the red-squared divisions ...
        1. bachast
          0
          8 September 2012 06: 55
          THERE IS NOT NOW THE GRU SPECIAL OFFICE. NO !!!!!!!

          Come on to escalate ... the explorers and what? In the same jurisdiction of the General Staff and remained
          1. MI-AS-72
            0
            8 September 2012 09: 51
            It’s like the land hunters, and the GSh’s jurisdictions remain, we have all the SSs in the GSh’s jurisdiction, you count for ignorance of the subject, the man told you that the command of the SV is responsible for the combat training of the special forces, and naturally the training methods are now theirs and they are preparing to solve the problems will be primarily parts of the SV, not the GRU.
            1. bachast
              0
              8 September 2012 10: 25
              Do you give me a stake? Yes, you can’t make your point clear. Read yourself again .. And try at least to look at the structure of the Main Intelligence Directorate on the Internet.
              What kind of methodology are you talking about? Where did you meet with her? How was the Special Forces Division of the GRU, so it is. And if you are not aware, then you know that before the brigades were directly subordinate to the comm. Okrug and NRu. And they will solve the problems the same as the last thirty years, because all these years the GRU special forces did not do exactly what they actually created it and in fact were foot soldiers. Even in Afghanistan, they didn’t go where they were ... Yes, today the spectrum it’s possible that there will already be tasks, but you don’t need to whimper and make yourself outcasts, they say we’re not allowed to give such cool people abroad to the Lyutovites .. And then listen, everyone thinks of himself as Rex from the officer groups. You see, not that ..
        2. +1
          8 September 2012 18: 57
          Translated - this is not restored, but in essence, I repeat once again: THERE ISN’T NECESSARY FOR GRU. NO !!!!!!!
          They handed us over to the hunters. And the level of training is no longer very different from the usual reconnaissance battalions of the red-squared divisions ...



          You know, this post of yours surprises me.
          Let's start with the fact that you, it turns out, do not know about the Berdsk brigade. How does this fit in with your claims to belong to the Special Forces of the GRU? =) Here I agree with the bachast - "And then listen, everyone imagines himself a Rex from the officer groups."
          The Berdsk brigade was generally disbanded, and the military personnel of the unit were dismissed from the ranks of the Armed Forces. Not so long ago, the brigade was restored, which is insanely happy for everyone who is related to the Special Forces of the GRU. And here "translated"? That was not the problem.

          Further, I again do not understand this mourning for the transfer of the Special Forces of the GRU to the NE and Airborne Forces. Yes it is. But at the same time, all these brigades of Special Forces both remained and remained under the wing of the GRU, and only those that are assigned by the General Staff of the General Staff fulfill tasks.
          This state of affairs is considered justified in the leadership of the GRU. Do not make a problem out of it. They consider such steps necessary to increase the efficiency of STs in the light of new realities in the world.
          On this occasion, there was a lengthy interview with a senior GRU officer, where he explained in detail that all funeral marches on the GRU Special Forces were inappropriate and stupid.
          Regarding the preparation and decline in combat effectiveness of the Special Operations Directorate of the GRU, let me doubt your words. To begin with, the brigades are equipped and equipped with conscripts always. Therefore, there is no need to talk about some superpower of the SP. Yes, elite units. But not rambs.
          As for intelligence saboteurs - officers, this is a different story. They both trained and trained according to their methods, and continue to do so. As GRU were, they are. Why is your crying Yaroslavna?
          At one time, the KGB sausage and border troops. They will either bring the PV into submission to the KGB, then they will withdraw, then they will again enter. Then they generally created the KGB troops. Most of the l \ s learned that they are members of the KGB after the demobilization, when they wrote on the military ID to whom the reserve belongs.
          So do not need this mourning.
          In general, nothing bad happened, no deterioration in training happened. As I understand it, a certain offense for lowering the status, so to speak, plays a greater role. For the disturbed halo of superheroes. =)
          and even that, to a greater extent this is observed in the ordinary, urgent composition.
          It was a mourning mood when it seemed that the brigades began to disband, of which there were only a few pieces, along with the East and West battalions.
          But, Thank God, the Berdsk was restored. The error was recognized. This means that SPN will continue to live - for fear of enemies and for the glory of Russia.
          1. 0
            9 September 2012 11: 01
            Thank you, smiled)))))))))))) Once again I report with my voice: I pro-statirol the fact that the Special Forces brigades were withdrawn from the GRU structure. And they can’t be called like that now !!! This is just what I had in mind. With regard to the drop in combat efficiency - this is a fact. But personally, I do not associate it only with the transfer from the GRU.
            Well, about the "restoration" of the 67th brigade, well, here I generally smile quietly. The 24th is translated. In place of the 67th and partly in Novosib itself. The 67th will not recover from the fact that units of the special forces of a completely different brigade will reappear in Berdsk.
            1. 0
              10 September 2012 23: 16
              I will not argue - I'm not in the subject. The information just walks that it was the Berd Brigade that was restored, and there was already an order from the President.

              Whether it is so or not, it is probably easier to find out if you are connected with it.
              If you are right, it remains only to remain silent.
              1. 0
                11 September 2012 20: 48
                And if you are not in the topic - why your previous speech, with a claim to butcher me nuts ?! I’m directly, from the first lines of yours, I’ve taken my heart)))))))))))))))
                By the way, I forgot to say last time: the transfer from the GRU did not result in, as you write, "a certain resentment for lowering the status, so to speak, plays a role. For the disturbed halo of superheroes. =", But rather concrete facts. For example, the first thing they did was take away the exploration premium. Well, there are also few pleasant things. So, about superheroes - this is for you. And we are so, we care about the earthly)))))))))))
                1. 0
                  12 September 2012 10: 55
                  Did I threaten to cut you nuts? =) Do not tell me where?

                  I simply doubted your awareness. And there are reasons for that. You wrote about the drop in combat readiness of the Special Forces in connection with the transfer, and not about the allowances. And that the GRU does not obey these brigades. But the truth is that it is just the opposite - the Special Forces brigades still carry out only GRU tasks, although they have been transferred to the Airborne Forces and Special Forces. In this regard, and my assumption that in a greater degree pride has jumped into you. What else to assume if nothing else has changed?

                  So what is there with Berdskaya? I type in a search - it gives out that Putin signed an order to restore it. You claim that this is bullshit. I did not understand where the truth is. However, about Putin’s decree, too, only from the words of certain veterans and employees of the Special Forces of the GRU. These messages appeared in August around this year.

                  I am not in the subject, because I had nothing to do with SP and I don’t have it. It takes me longer to learn the details and the real picture than to the person who is in this topic. Explain where the truth is with Berdskaya.
                  1. 0
                    12 September 2012 13: 23
                    I'm talking about Thomas, you're talking about Yeryomu ... But what's the difference whose tasks they perform? !! I say that the GRU does not have special forces now. There are special units, but they can no longer be called GRU special forces !!!
                    Why am I crucifying here? If you write that you are not in the topic, but at the same time persistently prove something. All. To this I will no longer answer.
                    Irkutsk is being transferred to the place of Berdskaya. Which before this was transferred to Irkutsk from Ulan - Ude. In short, all through one place ...
                    And it is "restored" by the same figures who are not in the subject. We heard the ringing that something would appear in Berdsk and, well, call the whole Russia!
                    1. 0
                      13 September 2012 14: 20
                      The GRU itself announced that the Special Forces still only performs their tasks, although not on the staff of the Office itself. This means that it is not true to assert that the GRU no longer has special forces. This is simple logic. Point.

                      For the Berd and Asbest brigades sorry.
          2. 0
            13 September 2012 23: 26
            Thanks for the information, clarified the situation at least ...
      2. 0
        13 September 2012 23: 24
        What about Rostov? Restored?
        1. 0
          14 September 2012 16: 46
          Yes God is with you! She didn’t go anywhere! Stands and lives.
  23. +1
    7 September 2012 20: 16
    because the root of any terrorist activity is social problems. - But the government is in no hurry to solve them .... Why ????
    1. Karish
      0
      7 September 2012 20: 18
      Quote: vezunchik
      because the root of any terrorist activity is social problems. - But the government is in no hurry to solve them .... Why ????

      Because the example of the Arab revolutions, for them does not mean anything.
  24. Karish
    +2
    7 September 2012 20: 22
    Since the situation between Chechnya and Ingushetia has only been aggravated in recent days, the Russian editions, including the Military Review, raised the question of the need for the federal center to intervene as soon as possible in the dispute between Yevkurov and Kadyrov so that the verbal skirmish does not become a full-scale military conflict with many victims. In this regard, it is quite possible to say that the Caucasus-2012 exercises can become a kind of medicine for the disagreeable heads of Chechnya and Ingushetia, after which military units may well remain in the boundary area between the two indicated republics so that together with the Ingush and Chechen security forces conduct joint operations to destroy gang groups in both Ingushetia and Chechnya.

    It seems that we are talking about two separate hostile states (and not about the subjects of the Russian Federation) where Russia should send peacekeeping forces.
  25. wow
    +3
    7 September 2012 21: 15
    In my opinion (after 2xDRA), this operation should be performed by means excluding any pathology, i.e. neither prisoners nor wounded.
    1. REPA1963
      +1
      7 September 2012 23: 15
      Can you kill? Ours?
  26. +2
    7 September 2012 21: 18
    Without naming the source, "Independent newspaper" directly indicates that Russian troops will assist the Ministry of Internal Affairs units in the North Caucasus republics in connection with

    Is it possible to believe this newspaper?) By the way, this is not the first time that she has published such articles ... and as usual from an unnamed source.
  27. Samovar
    0
    7 September 2012 23: 10
    The Russian army will conduct a "general cleaning" in the North Caucasus

    Already where, where, and there it must be done regularly. At least once every 10 years (the benefit of experience is).
  28. REPA1963
    0
    7 September 2012 23: 14
    Dzhokhar Duda .... tfu you Ramzan Kadyrov will not allow. He has his there under arms.
  29. +1
    8 September 2012 00: 31
    Now, if the Caucasus explodes, everyone will get it. And terrorism, extremism and nationalism are treated in simple ways: good permanent job, family, home, confidence in the future. And then there will be nobody to tear armored personnel carriers, shoot soldiers and plant bombs in schools.
    Those renegades who nevertheless climbed with weapons will be cleared by the Ministry of Internal Affairs and the FSB. units are easier to fight than thousands.
    The experience of bringing to peace is% in Western Ukraine and the Baltic states.
  30. sdf344esdf
    -1
    8 September 2012 08: 50
    Have you heard the news? A personal information search site has appeared. Now everything became known, all information about each resident of Ukraine, Russia and other CIS countries tarurl. com / poiscki
    This site appeared recently - but it has already made a lot of noise, since there is a lot of personal information about each of us, I even found my own nude photos, not to mention even addresses, phone numbers, etc. It's good that the "hide from everyone" button is still working - I advise everyone to do it and quickly

    Have you heard the news? A personal information search site has appeared. Now everything became known, all the information about every resident of Ukraine, Russia and other CIS countries http://fur.ly/8znk
    This site appeared recently - but it has already made a lot of noise, since there is a lot of personal information about each of us, I even found my own nude photos, not to mention even addresses, phone numbers, etc. It's good that the "hide from everyone" button is still working - I advise everyone to do it and quickly

    Have you heard the news? A personal information search site has appeared. Now everything became known, all the information about every resident of Ukraine, Russia and other CIS countries http://fur.ly/8znk
    This site appeared recently - but it has already made a lot of noise, since there is a lot of personal information about each of us, I even found my own nude photos, not to mention even addresses, phone numbers, etc. It's good that the "hide from everyone" button is still working - I advise everyone to do it and quickly
  31. Owl
    +1
    8 September 2012 14: 23
    The actions of the Army against sabotage and bandit partisan formations, when operating on the territory "native" for these formations, are ineffective, only leaving the "scorched earth" will it be possible to achieve Victory, in Russia now no one will go for this ...
  32. 0
    8 September 2012 14: 38
    Owl,
    The actions of the Army against sabotage and bandit partisan formations, when operating on the territory "native" for these formations, are ineffective

    After all, the army is different:
    http://spec-naz.org/persons/heroes/222/1394/
  33. badervlad
    0
    8 September 2012 20: 25
    I now recommend looking ... The Caucasus is the door for them, and we will not forget about Sochi 2014 .... [media = http: //vk.com/away.php? To = https: //www.youtube .com / watch? v = _DQYSYj
    9i6I & post = 4588674_144]
  34. +1
    8 September 2012 23: 22
    For me, the Caucasus is a hotbed of Terrorism, which the West is frightened with. But 1 problem. When they need- Fighters for Shitokraty, 2 option they are the local population, whose hands are twisted by the power to such an extent that they take up arms !? And if you look closely from where the ears grow, then I think that they will grow "something" with a howl. Not enough for them al-Qaeda. And they themselves will suffer from it. And in a smart way, we just need to let the Caucasus develop, and not give up our positions, because Russians cannot live without Caucasians :) And vice versa. :)
  35. Lech e-mine
    +2
    9 September 2012 08: 16
    I read today the stories of RUSSIAN REFUGEES FROM THE CAUCASUS since 1993.

    It was impossible to read and watch without a shudder.
    I believe that our ARMY should, without any pity, destroy all armed militants.
    There, only the METHODS of General YERMOLOV will give some kind of result.
  36. 0
    10 September 2012 11: 48
    All bandits and their accomplices must be ruthlessly and very brutally destroyed on the spot. And by special forces or how else this is the second question.
  37. 0
    10 September 2012 22: 09
    Fence off with a rigid border and flood the entire "contaminated" area with napalm. And after all, bring black soil and plant cultivated plants.
  38. 0
    11 September 2012 18: 30
    How the Caucasus-2012 exercises are being prepared http://akademiagp.ru/ucheniya-kavkaz-2012-prevratilis-v-pokazatelnoe-vystuplenie
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  39. kov
    kov
    0
    23 September 2012 20: 00
    A fragment of a video from the 2012 Caucasus Exercises