The most massive medieval weapon

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After many years of stubborn and unsuccessful battles, the English king Edward I finally achieved the conquest of Scotland. Despite the crushing defeat of the bulk of William Wallace's rebel forces at Falkirk in 1298, resistance continued throughout the countryside. It took years to wipe out the remaining Scots, and by 1304 there was only one major hostile stronghold to oppose English rule - Stirling Castle.

This castle was and still remains a formidable structure that guards the crossing of the Fort River. Without him, Edward could not have claimed to have completely conquered the Scots. With a large army and a dozen siege engines, the English army laid siege to the castle.



Edward had a new secret at his disposal. weaponwhich gave him confidence that the castle would fall quickly. Edward was going to take the castle with the help of the so-called "War Wolf".

"Wolf of War"


The Wolf of War was the largest trebuchet ever built. It was designed specifically for assaults on heavily fortified castles such as Stirling Castle.

Other smaller siege engines were unable to quickly penetrate heavily fortified walls, resulting in months of sieges, giving the defenders an advantage. Edward wanted to show that he has a weapon that can quickly break through the defenses of any castle.

The War Wolf was transported in thirty wagons and required thousands of kilograms of counterweights to ensure it didn't collapse. During its manufacture near Sterling Castle, Edward demanded that all lead and other similar metals be removed from the surrounding churches. All this metal was needed to create counterweights for the "wolf".

Such extreme measures were necessary because the "wolf" was said to have measured over 100 meters in height and could throw stones weighing up to 150 kilograms.

It was a modern marvel in terms of military technology at the time, and overshadowed all the standard siege engines of the era.

Siege of the castle


The siege of Stirling Castle began in April 1304 when Edward's army surrounded the fortress. The king asked the garrison to surrender peacefully to avoid a lengthy siege, but the garrison refused.

The wolf took three months to make. Dozens of workers labored to make sure the trebuchet was functional. All this time the Scots watched from the ramparts as the "monster" takes shape.

After it became clear that the "wolf" is a huge trebuchet and that Edward intends to destroy the castle defenses, the garrison tried to surrender. However, the offer of surrender was rejected. Edward was not going to pass up a great opportunity to test his weapon.

In July, the "wolf" roared to life. He threw massive stones at walls, destroying them completely in just a few throws. The weapon was a great success. The castle was taken on 24 July.

Model


As far as we know, only one "wolf" took part in the siege. But while it was the largest and possibly the most destructive siege machine of the era, it was impractical.

It took weeks or even months to make it. A team of expensive engineers and workers was required to install and maintain the machine. It took thousands of kilograms of stones and counterweights to fire. This is probably why this device became a weapon that has never been duplicated.

Today you can see a scale model of a Scotland wolf outside of Carlaverock Castle. It is truly gigantic.
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  1. +9
    6 August 2021 04: 19
    I try to imagine the thickness of the walls and the masonry that collapses in a few throws.

    And another question - how functional is the construction of one hundred meters in height?
    1. +5
      6 August 2021 14: 43
      If the walls did not stand on a deep reinforced foundation and themselves had reinforcement going into the foundation, then in general, gaps in it break through quickly enough.
    2. +1
      9 August 2021 04: 50
      Then there was still no concrete, which possesses binding properties. I do not remember what exactly it was as a "solution", but in fact they only covered the gaps with it and that's it. Therefore, the wall was essentially an ordinary laying of stones, which, in fact, were not connected by anything - when hit, it loosened and began to crumble down
    3. +1
      15 October 2021 19: 50
      Medieval trebuchets did not break through any walls, except for wooden fences. They threw "Greek fire" and typhoid dogs behind the walls - that was more than enough, although the result was not quick.

      A couple of decades ago, the Order of the Northern Temple was a sponsor of the Minsk club of reenactors. They made a trebuchet without my help. For a counterweight, they simply carried bags - 300 - 500 kg of sand can be collected everywhere. The view was spectacular: they were taken to the Grunwald Festival, and, of course, the trebuchet took part in the "battles" at all Belarusian castles. But I have a very skeptical attitude to combat capabilities. The balls sawn off from a 10kg dumbbell flew about 50 - 70 meters. It was very impressive to watch the shooting of a three-liter tank with gasoline wrapped in burlap (set on fire before the shot). This is where the effectiveness ends. I once figured out the energy of a projectile - it turned out less than that of a rifle bullet, I don't remember the distance. To "destroy" masonry / masonry, probably hundreds, or even thousands of hits in one place are needed. That with the existing accuracy is not even discussed. And also a cherry on the cake - maybe even a shot in the opposite direction with the wrong ratio of the stirrup and release rope length (I describe this in my article about Polotsk people, I give a link to the article). Therefore, when shooting and from behind, the audience is also removed!


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  2. +7
    6 August 2021 04: 23
    This is what I understand for the wunderwaffe ... big, terrible, heavy ... really, you think that delivering it, building it, supplying shells is a problem ... but once you can scare the enemy.
  3. +20
    6 August 2021 05: 10
    In July, the "wolf" roared to life. He threw massive stones at walls, destroying them completely in just a few throws.

    The castle, whose garrison numbered twenty-five to thirty people, was besieged in April 1304, and within four months twelve (according to other sources, seventeen) catapults and trebuchets bombarded it with lead balls, vessels with "Greek fire" and stone boulders.
    Due to the lack of progress, an order was given to collect and use the "wolf of war" described in the article. From the moment the defenders of the fortress expressed their capitulation and until the acceptance of their surrender, four days passed, during which, apparently, the "wolf of war" was tested.
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  4. +13
    6 August 2021 05: 11
    Quote from Korsar4
    I try to imagine the thickness of the walls and the masonry that collapses in a few throws.

    The stones in the walls were mainly held under their own weight, which is why the walls collapsed so easily
    1. 0
      15 October 2021 19: 23
      No, they were not destroyed.
  5. +5
    6 August 2021 05: 11
    I can hardly imagine that the fortress decides to surrender, and the besiegers refuse to accept the surrender
    1. +8
      6 August 2021 05: 18
      There was a feature film - they showed one shot, and even Greek fire. If the goal is achieved, the rest is scenery.
      Yes, and legends are woven: more than enough.
  6. +21
    6 August 2021 05: 14
    Thanks for the interesting story!
    After it became clear that the "wolf" is a huge trebuchet and that Edward intends to destroy the castle defenses, the garrison tried to surrender. However, the offer of surrender was rejected. Edward was not going to pass up a great opportunity to test his weapon.
    I perfectly understand Edward and his people: "Well, here ... we built and built, finally built, and these are going to surrender here - no!" All the same, such a thing had to be put into business!
  7. +15
    6 August 2021 05: 15
    According to my estimates, the height of the model machine in the photo is about 10-12 meters ... the width of the base is about 14 meters.
    The possibility of building such a grandiose unit 100 meters high is somehow doubtful, although remembering the Cheops pyramid at 146 meters ...
    But the pyramid is not an assault mechanism and does not throw shells of one and a half centners.
    There are many in this world, friend Horatio, that our paparazzi never dreamed of ..
    1. +18
      6 August 2021 06: 38
      Yes, just a button on the keyboard fuse and an extra zero appeared ... This is what it really was - well, yes, about 10 meters somewhere
      The "Wolf of War" model. Photo: Kumpel von McKarri / Wikimedia Commons
    2. Fat
      +17
      6 August 2021 08: 30
      hi Yeah. It seems to be a very simple thing. Edward, perhaps, could have built a trebuchet not 100 meters high, but 100 feet. The same is very grandiose, but 3 times less and much more realistic for three months of work and only thirty vans for transportation ...
      1. +5
        6 August 2021 15: 30
        And the word van is a kind of cowboy.
        Ordinary carts are no worse.
    3. +5
      6 August 2021 14: 50
      100 is naturally fantastic, even now it will take quite a few resources to make such a trebuchet.
  8. +11
    6 August 2021 05: 29
    Curious calculations of the dependence of the flight range on the weight of the projectile were made by the British company Artefacts by order of the American organization WGBH / NOVA. The actual (based on test results) range of a 100-kg projectile with a counterweight of 8 tons will be about 200 m.
    http://xlegio.ru/throwing-machines/middle-ages/trebuchet
    To break a hole in the wall, it is necessary that the shells hit one point after the other; this can only be achieved if all the shells are of the same weight and shape. A projectile with a large weight or aerodynamic resistance will not fly, with a lighter weight - it will fly over. Trebuchet shells fly along a hinged trajectory at a low speed, so a spherical shape is ideal for them.
    Studies of medieval sources and the experience of modern reconstructions made it possible to identify the optimal type of large battering trebuchet. This is a device with a lever of 10-12 m, ("100 meters in height" Somehow a bit too much) with a counterweight of about 10 tons, throwing stone cannonballs of 100 kg weighing 200-220 m with a rate of fire of 2 rounds per hour.
    A calculation of 12 people directly fires, however, several such calculations are needed to conduct continuous round-the-clock shooting. In addition, additional people are needed to manufacture and transport stone cores, as well as to assemble and repair. The total team can be 50 or even 100 people.
    1. +5
      6 August 2021 05: 44
      This device is with 10-12m lever,

      Here is about the same size device in the photo is ... Well, quite a working unit.
      1. +7
        6 August 2021 06: 00
        100 meters is not real at all, a fairy tale.
        Here is an 8-meter lever for a projectile of 10-20 kg

        Range of about 50 meters
        1. +3
          6 August 2021 08: 29
          Dangerous. The arrows of the defenders, even from a bow or crossbow, fly much further. Maybe you can shoot from this for a longer range?
          1. +1
            6 August 2021 09: 19
            This is the same "tutorial" to show what a trebuchet is and how to shoot it.
        2. 0
          15 October 2021 19: 33
          I don't see the most important thing here - stirrups. This gadget is on a rope and gives the main speed, like the tip of a whip.
          1. 0
            16 October 2021 09: 57
            Read above - this is a tutorial! A la replica.
    2. +8
      6 August 2021 05: 58
      I, too, do not fit 100 meters in height in my head: three hundred-year-old pines in good growing conditions, stacked on top of each other.

      And how to fix it securely.

      The mast of a sailing ship and a trebuchet still have different functionality.

      And one more thing: any zeroing is necessary.
      1. +6
        6 August 2021 06: 03
        Hello, Sergey!
        I don't remember where I read it, in order to break a wall 3 m thick, you need about 15 hits in one point of shells about 50-60 kg
        1. +4
          6 August 2021 06: 08
          Hello Alexander!

          I caught myself thinking that it would be interesting to model mathematically.

          And from one shot, or even better without them, the Walls fall when you pass around them with the Jerekhon trumpets.
          1. +3
            6 August 2021 06: 12
            The mathematical models are done. From them reenactors and fall off.
            But at the expense of the model of the Jericho Trumpet - it's problematic here, you need to ask the Jews around laughing
            1. +4
              6 August 2021 06: 28
              There is a version that while they were walking around with pipes, they broke the wall to this music.
              1. +2
                6 August 2021 06: 30
                An interesting version! But somehow I can't believe it!
      2. +6
        6 August 2021 07: 15
        It is interesting how the field of activity affects the associative array. You measure in the trees, I measure in the floors.
        1. +3
          6 August 2021 15: 20
          It is also possible in the floors. But the trees are more familiar. And sometimes it is clearer.
          1. +3
            6 August 2021 18: 01
            Greetings! )))
            On the recommendation of Seryozha-Phil, I recently watched "Flesh and Blood". There was such a healthy trebuchet, brought in pieces in vans, not in carts. According to my estimates, about 30 meters high, that is, about a hundred feet. As for the king mentioned in the article ... Here the people say, they say, they would starve, surrender themselves, why negotiations, and even more so a trebuchet on the walls ... But try it? The weapon had to be tested in action, right?
            Everything needs to be tested! Edward was gnawed at curiosity wassat )))
            1. +1
              6 August 2021 18: 45
              Hello, Lyudmila Yakovlevna!
              Protected the components from the rain?

              I wonder who usually pays for the curiosity of kings?
              1. +2
                6 August 2021 19: 11
                Are you asking me?)))
                Admiring the exploits of the glorious builders of states, subsequent generations hardly ponder such a question.
                How do they think?
                So back to the cave?
                1. +1
                  6 August 2021 20: 10
                  The main thing is that the cave is comfortable.
                  1. +1
                    6 August 2021 20: 26
                    I thought.
                    Came up with epic wassat )))
                    The comfort of the cave is determined by the reliability of its vault, the absence of a pronounced seismic obstruction and a volcano nearby. Whatever one may say, there has always been one thing: a flimsy vault, the soil leaving from under our feet, an environment that is flammable in every sense ...
                    We are always in a cave! )))
                    1. +1
                      6 August 2021 20: 37
                      You have drawn a good bunker. It remains to find out the location.
                      1. +2
                        6 August 2021 20: 46
                        A good bunker is already occupied, habitable and has gained fame. This does not shine for you. For me - perhaps the damp basement of my Khrushchev. But he's busy too. Cats and rats live there peacefully. The only similarity between the basement of my house and the famous bunker is that the inhabitants of the bunker and the inhabitants of the basement are fed by citizens.
                      2. +2
                        6 August 2021 20: 53
                        Dwarfs, of course, I respect. But I love fresh air more.
                      3. +1
                        6 August 2021 21: 17
                        How did you turn out, huh? I'm amazed! )))
                        They say that the white-eyed chud once went into the system of underground tunnels that permeate all continents. She left and left somewhere.
                      4. +2
                        6 August 2021 21: 20
                        Yeah. Try to catch.

                        “And he has always been a debater.
                        If you press it against the wall, it will refuse ”(c).
                      5. +2
                        6 August 2021 21: 27
                        Press against the wall, and the Overton window will be behind your back - open! wassat )))
                        So save you!
                      6. +2
                        6 August 2021 21: 54
                        Safety is paramount. As if this Overton did not leave the window open.
                      7. +1
                        6 August 2021 22: 24
                        "From the open window, there was such a loud sound of a kiss that a horse started to move below" (c)
            2. +1
              6 August 2021 22: 02
              Quote: depressant
              Greetings! )))
              On the recommendation of Seryozha-Phil, I recently watched "Flesh and Blood". There was such a healthy trebuchet, brought in pieces in vans, not in carts. wassat )))
              Time of events of the film "Flesh and Blood" Italy 1501.
              The article deals with the events of 1304 in England and Scotland - the van might not have been invented yet ...
              1. Fat
                +2
                7 August 2021 07: 15
                hi Covered carts have existed since about the 3rd millennium BC.
                1. +1
                  7 August 2021 19: 54
                  My opinion
                  body
                  It will be easier to load and unload into an open cart-cart, disassembled trebuchet, in the form of bars and boards.
                  And so that the load does not get wet with rain, just close it from the top with a waterproof cover.
            3. +1
              7 August 2021 18: 58
              Everything needs to be tested! Edward was gnawed by curiosity wassat)))

              It was necessary to test it during acceptance, otherwise, it will not work even an hour ... These are image losses!
  9. 0
    6 August 2021 05: 55
    The chef's in puddles, we also have all mine go through the state farm.
    1. +6
      6 August 2021 06: 02
      Is this a cipher?

      Or did it drift here with a favorable wind?
      1. +4
        6 August 2021 06: 11
        Shhh .... Sergey. Boshirov in touch.
      2. +6
        6 August 2021 10: 03
        Ah, little butts, maybe
        with "Tu-104" Wild wind skidded you.


        Hello, Sergey! smile

        How many torments were there before gunpowder was invented.
        1. +4
          6 August 2021 15: 27
          Hi Constantine!

          Life was more difficult to take away.
          1. +4
            6 August 2021 15: 31
            Yes, it’s not very easy to take away, but sometimes it’s difficult to get to it. Although in this case the question is not actually in life as such.
            1. +4
              6 August 2021 16: 15
              You can quote Voloshin again.
              Or you can just remember about power and borders.
              And it's not so important what you have in your hands. At least a blaster.
              1. +7
                6 August 2021 16: 28
                Bastardly human nature and you can't get away from it.
                1. +3
                  6 August 2021 17: 51
                  Sometimes good things happen.
                  1. +2
                    6 August 2021 18: 59
                    Which is amazing. request
                    1. +3
                      6 August 2021 19: 07
                      “I ate too much toadstools,
                      And I strive for dirty tricks ”(c).
                      1. +3
                        6 August 2021 19: 18
                        Then Paganini listened and his soul became so rotten. sad
                      2. +4
                        6 August 2021 20: 11
                        And if you listen
                        "Road without end", the soul becomes easier.
                      3. +3
                        6 August 2021 20: 27
                        "Road without end,
                        A road without beginning or end.
                        Always in the crowd
                        Always one of many. "(C)
                      4. +1
                        6 August 2021 21: 18
                        "Long, long gray thread of worn-out roads
                        We darn the wounds of the soul ”(c).
                      5. +3
                        6 August 2021 21: 37
                        "Household chores are abandoned,
                        You don't need a salary or a job
                        I go, I go, I play with an automatic machine,
                        It's so easy to be a soldier, a soldier. "(C)
    2. +8
      6 August 2021 07: 17
      "Stirlitz has never been so close to failure" (C)
  10. +10
    6 August 2021 06: 12
    Awesome ... Ancestors knew the strength of materials better than modern engineers.
  11. +8
    6 August 2021 06: 15
    In July, the "wolf" with a roar "came to life"
    Wondering what can roar in the trebuchet?
    1. +5
      6 August 2021 06: 29
      Can a pebble be launched with a whistle?
      And the cobblestone - with a roar, especially if it hits someone's foot.
    2. +5
      6 August 2021 06: 33
      Constructor and roared with happiness that the device was working
      1. +4
        6 August 2021 10: 32
        I was taken with me to heighten my fear.
        "Big, disheveled bear;
        Tatyana ah! and he roars, "(c) laughing
        1. +3
          6 August 2021 17: 49
          Uh, no, Kostya! )))
          The most terrible roar of a lion! The blood runs cold ...
          The Internet was buggy all day.
          I was just going to say something, and he passed out. And then it dawned on me. Several articles from the now banned "Publicist" were stored on the phone. Well, I found it, deleted it, and everything worked out right away wassat )))
          And at first she sinned for the weather.
          Is it raining there too?
          1. +3
            6 August 2021 18: 03
            I was just going to say something, and he passed out. And then it dawned on me. Several articles from the now banned "Publicist" were stored on the phone.
            I beg you, Lyudmila Yakovlevna! The FSB has nothing else to do but track the contents of your phone's memory!
            1. +3
              6 August 2021 18: 12
              Anton, but it turned out the same!
              People used to even charge water with Chumak, the main thing is faith in a miracle wassat )))
              1. +3
                6 August 2021 18: 25
                This miracle is called - the phone's cache-back is packed to capacity. You made it yourself! Will the phone go further on the water?
                1. +2
                  6 August 2021 18: 32
                  It goes like clockwork! But I still have a lot of everything there, 46 pieces in the cache, and now I am predatory looking, what else to do wrong, what to remove this kind of political? It's a pity to clean up statistics. However, why would she want me! I went out into the street, looked around, here's the statistics for me)))
                  1. +2
                    6 August 2021 18: 48
                    Get a pump action shotgun! Go outside with him! I swear statistics will improve instantly!
                    "Sarah Connor" in your performance will be an undoubted success!
                    1. +1
                      6 August 2021 19: 14
                      Oh no!
                      I try to solve the problems of the future in my mind - like a puzzle at the blackboard)))
                      1. +1
                        6 August 2021 19: 36
                        "Will I think about that tomorrow?" (WITH)???
                      2. +1
                        6 August 2021 19: 58
                        Today, one has to think about the solution of the problem, and others will solve it. Remember, in what state of shock Rumata was, when against all expectations one fine morning the power in Arkanar was seized by clerics? )))
          2. +2
            6 August 2021 19: 09
            Good evening, Luda. love
            No, we have a fever again, the cat walks around, looks at me and swears, he believes that I can turn off the heat just as I turn off the light. If...
            And as for the phone, the memory has been fresh since Soviet times. laughing
            1. +2
              6 August 2021 19: 19
              As for me, only one detail is correct in this picture, an ashtray full of cigarette butts. I was not spoiled by my personal phone! If used, then exclusively "spoiled" winked
              1. +2
                6 August 2021 19: 21
                Luda, I'm not talking about you, but about wiretapping. "Big Brother" is always up to date. tongue
                1. +3
                  6 August 2021 19: 29
                  Well then!
                  If my phone specifies exactly what the weather will be in my village, and not in the neighboring name, then the special services, I suppose, sighed with relief today: “Finally, she removed these damned annoying articles! to work, look through the same thing! We've learned them by heart! We didn't want to, but it worked! "
                  And I forgot their content! wassat )))
                  1. +2
                    6 August 2021 19: 32
                    To people with attention it is necessary ...
                    1. +1
                      6 August 2021 19: 50
                      We'll have to do so!
                      Because ... Do you know when the Publicist was closed? Believe it or not! Exactly the next day, after one, from my point of view, completely insignificant remark on the topic of either armor, or some medieval king - a remark made by me about the fact that no matter how Putin was criticized on the Publicist, all articles boil down to one thing - "Putin is eternal!" And by this, the need for Putin in such a capacity is involuntarily squeezed into the heads of the electorate. Intelligence, apparently not agreeing with this state of affairs, grabbed their heads and closed the resource.
                      Now Anton will come and say that I greatly exaggerate my influence on the course of modern Russian history and will declare me crazy wassat ))))
                      1. +2
                        6 August 2021 19: 57
                        laughing laughing laughing He has already sent Seryoga to ward number six, get ready. wassat
                      2. +2
                        6 August 2021 20: 06
                        Yes, I remember this moment! I read, laughed, but Seryozha is not visible! Did you go in the indicated direction? Or did the wife return with a new purchase in the form of a frying pan or a rolling pin and solved the problem, knocking out Serezhino's addiction to a special way of raising the revolutionary spirit with a well-aimed blow on the crown?
                        Poor Seryozha! drinks
                      3. +2
                        6 August 2021 20: 23
                        Seryoga has a kafar and you need to be sensitive to him. We have been texting all day long today and he sends me great songs. Longing in a person. request
                      4. +2
                        6 August 2021 20: 37
                        Depressive sickness?
                        What's the matter with him? You upset me. Would he have some difficulty in life, or something ...
                        Immediately, the brains would fall into place. He needs to overcome something, he is. It works like that.
                        But I will not discuss. This is not the place here. And I won't write to him in a personal message. Because I don’t know how to help.
                        There would be to help yourself. And I can't do that. I just put on smiles, like this wassat
                        I look at the face, and it makes me feel better.
                      5. +2
                        6 August 2021 20: 42
                        "Above me from the intense heat was the sky of a dusty color.
                        Maple greens have become stunted and gnarled bark.
                        And around me passers-by were like devils
                        And it smelled of sauerkraut from a neighboring yard. "(C)

                        It's really not worth discussing, but ... "the Russians do not abandon their own in the war." soldier
                      6. +1
                        6 August 2021 20: 49
                        In war - yes, but in a peaceful life we ​​are only busy with that: who else to leave, but farther away?
    3. +8
      6 August 2021 06: 36
      The creak of rubbing parts, in the mechanism of the declared size (height 100 meters), may well pass for a roar.
    4. +7
      6 August 2021 06: 42
      Quote: 3x3zsave
      In July, the "wolf" with a roar "came to life"
      Wondering what can roar in the trebuchet?

      Probably when a lever with a sling throwing a projectile cuts the air
      like a Cossack saber air, or a kid chopping nettles with a twig ... laughing
      Also attach whistles like Mongol arrows, so
      "psychic attack" would be like Ju-87.
    5. +4
      6 August 2021 10: 51
      The creak of the wooden "bearings" of the lever?
  12. +9
    6 August 2021 06: 35
    Well, you can write whole treatises about trebuchets, like "artillery" ones! (However, they are already written ...) As in the artillery there were guns, mortars, howitzers ... there was field artillery, siege, fortress ... light ("antipersonnel") guns and heavy ("battering") bombards; so and among the trebuchets there was a "hierarchy"! It should be said in the beginning that there were 3 main types or "classes" of trebuchets: 1. "Hand" (with rope pulls ...), which appeared for the first time in the East (for example, in China); 2. With a counterbalance ... ("purely" European invention ...); 3. "Hybrid" ... (with rope pulls, but also having a "small" counterweight ...) Sometimes their own names were applied to these "types": 1. "Perrier"; 2. "Mangonels"; 3. "Bricoli"
    Efficiency: Studies of medieval sources and the experience of modern reconstructions made it possible to identify the optimal type of large battering trebuchet. This is a device with a lever of 10-12 m, a counterweight of about 10 tons, throwing stone balls of 100 kg weighing 200-220 m with a rate of fire of 2 rounds per hour. According to modern measurements, the flight speed of the heavy trebuchet core exceeds 200 km / h (60 m / s). The height of the flight of the nucleus reaches 60-80 m. A calculation of 12 people directly performs the shooting, however, to conduct continuous round-the-clock shooting, several such calculations are necessary. In addition, additional people are needed to manufacture and transport stone cores, as well as to assemble and repair. The total team can be 50 or even 100 people, but most of them are not required to have any qualifications.

    In principle, it is possible to create a trebuchet with a counterweight of 20 tons, throwing stones of 300 kg, and for a short distance of a ton or even more. However, the manufacture, transportation and assembly of such a giant is difficult, loading the cores manually is also excessively laborious and slow, the wooden structure is overloaded. At the same time, there is no gain in firing range.


  13. +9
    6 August 2021 06: 35
    There was not enough food in Stirling, so they surrendered. Trebuchet, the rate of fire did not differ. And he could not destroy the walls of the castle with one hit. Edward's pontes. Yes, and trebuchets, were widespread throughout the world, they did not constitute a special secret. They made an impression, but no sense.
  14. +3
    6 August 2021 08: 16
    Hmm, so much firewood ... And so, how the Scots were frightened with firewood, and the 100 m high trebuchet, raises doubts.
    The king asked the garrison to surrender peacefully to avoid a long siege, but the garrison refused.
    The king was asked to wait until the messenger for permission to surrender hit the road, but it was necessary to wait two months ... Then it all began ...
  15. +2
    6 August 2021 08: 18
    Quote: ee2100
    break a wall 3 m thick about 15 hits in one point of shells about 50-60 kg

    At what speed should the projectile fly and from what material?
  16. +8
    6 August 2021 08: 23
    Quote: Nikolaevich I
    According to modern measurements, the flight speed of a heavy trebuchet core exceeds 200 km / h (60 m / s)

    Let the mass of the nucleus be 100 kg, the velocity when hitting the wall along the normal is 60 m / s, then the energy of the shot is:
    E = 100kg / 2 * 60 * 60 = 180 kJ in energy is comparable to the 2A42 projectile.
    For a stone wall with a thickness of 3 m, not thick.
    But if you manage to get into the gate, then there is a chance of breaking them.
    1. +4
      6 August 2021 09: 36
      Quote: Ua3qhp
      Let the mass of the nucleus be 100 kg, the velocity when hitting the wall along the normal is 60 m / s, then the energy of the shot is:
      E = 100kg / 2 * 60 * 60 = 180 kJ in energy is comparable to the 2A42 projectile.
      For a stone wall with a thickness of 3 m, not thick.
      But if you manage to get into the gate, then there is a chance of breaking them.

      The trebuchet's biting ability has not yet been adequately tested. From the experience of the tests, we can only say that they are quite real, but to break through a gap in the 2nd wall, many tens, or even hundreds of calibrated cores are needed (since the gap must be large enough for the storming troops to pass) (X.legio. ru)

      It is made of oak logs, weighs 6 tons and uses a counterweight of 15 tons, is capable of throwing shells up to 300 kg weight and can be pivoted horizontally with crowbars, since its frame is placed on another wooden platform.
    2. +3
      6 August 2021 12: 01
      2 * 60 * 60 = 180 kJ in energy is comparable to the 2A42 projectile.
      for that, the impulse of the core fired from the trebuche is about an order of magnitude greater than that of this art projectile.
    3. +2
      6 August 2021 14: 05
      I suspect that they were mainly aiming at the gate.
  17. +2
    6 August 2021 09: 48
    It would be more logical to imagine that the trebuchet performed the function of a battering ram, acting from a distance, and mainly against the gate, as the weakest part of the fortification.
  18. +10
    6 August 2021 10: 07
    Strange storyteller. Kind of like from the series "When I served under the banner of the Duke of Cumberland ...".
    Yes, and meters and feet are unambiguously beguiled, because it is not possible to create a free-standing one-hundred-meter dynamic structure out of wood, for structural and material reasons, alas ... hi

    I felt that there is something familiar here!
    Dmitry Rus. "War".
    The gnomes in red-hot armor were swearing harmoniously, disassembling and pushing in parts into the portal "Big Bertha" - a trebuchet of gigantic proportions, made to order by an insane master-giant.
  19. +2
    6 August 2021 14: 04
    Well, why is it so categorically in the last paragraph that the castle was the last and the trebuchet was only developed by hi-tech, They tested it at the castle, and there were no more worthy goals on the islands - they did not go to the continent, but they would go, you look and there would be more goals, here how from Dora in the Second World War, she was shooting, but not everywhere, well, they could not, what then what are now such effective and effective machines to attach to each platoon, but if they could, what?
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      6 August 2021 17: 48
      Stirling Castle was not the last, it was key, for the residence of the Scottish kings.
      1. +2
        6 August 2021 19: 26
        And I mean too - the first and last worthy target for a wunderwafe
  20. 0
    6 August 2021 18: 58
    For some, this weapon is relevant in the XNUMXst century ...
    But these are not Taliban or Amazonian Indians ...
    The last active trebuchet for combat use was built by the Europeans. Central Europeans on the Maidan Gidnost.
  21. 0
    6 August 2021 21: 54
    The wolf took three months to make. Dozens of workers labored to make sure the trebuchet was functional.

    And I think impudently - they worked for money, for food, and the motive of the "whip" was present to a certain extent.
  22. +1
    7 August 2021 14: 33
    I'm just wondering, but the author himself believes in the possibility of creating such a monster in the 14th century, and most importantly in the fact that a 150 kg projectile thrown slowly enough can penetrate a sufficiently thick wall in a few blows? What happens if an armored jeep weighing a couple of tons at a speed of 100 km / h crashes into a wall of brick 3 meters thick? And this blow is several times more powerful.
  23. +1
    7 August 2021 15: 14
    You would be a good gentleman, i.e. the author would have a snack after each used glass.
  24. 0
    9 August 2021 14: 54
    Quote: ee2100
    throwing stone cannonballs in 100 kg weighing 200-220 m with a rate of fire of 2 rounds per hour.

    If the range is only 200 meters, then a much smaller device is capable of throwing this structure with small stones, arrows (and so on) and exterminating its builders or maintenance personnel.
  25. 0
    12 October 2021 10: 58
    If the British at that time the main units of measure for length were inches, feet and yards, then purely technologically, the foot is more suitable for describing. 100 feet, ~ 30 meters in height - really grandiose dimensions for those times. Although, perhaps, the defenders really surrendered themselves and there was pure propaganda by the wunderwaffe of King Edward for the edification of opponents.