Anti-space defense means: It is reported about the first contract for the supply of the S-500 "Prometheus" air defense system to the troops

There is information about the signing of a contract to update the air defense systems of Russia. It is reported that the RF Ministry of Defense has ordered a batch of the latest domestic air defense systems S-500 "Prometheus".

According to the source TASSrepresenting the military-industrial complex, the country's defense department ordered from the Almaz-Antey concern "the supply of more than 10 S-500 anti-aircraft missile systems."

This information, as it turns out, was announced during the recent MAKS-2021 International Aviation and Space Salon. The approximate dates for the start of serial deliveries of "Prometheus" to the troops were also named there. According to the latest data, such deliveries should start in the first half of 2022.

At the moment, tests of the S-500 "Prometheus" air defense-missile defense system continue. At the same time, it is expected that the entire set of planned tests should be completed this year.

S-500 "Prometheus" is a unique complex with which none of the air defense systems in service in different countries of the world can be compared in performance. A feature of the new generation Russian complex is that it is capable of operating on a wide range of targets, including in near space. In this regard, in the West, the S-500 "Prometheus" is called "anti-satellite weapons Russians ". In fact, this is the first generation of anti-space defense systems. The S-500 Prometheus is capable of dealing with targets at altitudes up to 200 km and at a range of up to 600 km. There are no "stealth" aircraft for the S-500 air defense system, therefore it is an effective means of destroying any fighters, including the 5th generation.

At the moment, there is no talk of export versions of this anti-aircraft missile system. However, there is considerable interest in it from foreign countries.

Comments

[tralflot1832]

Glory to the Soviet and Russian designers of anti-aircraft missile systems. Finally!

[Anachoret]

I think they will immediately saw the naval version, but the main thing is to start building ships where it could be placed) Atlanteans with buzzards are not getting younger and a change is needed

[hrych]

In the naval version, the missile defense system will apparently be located in the UVP, where Caliber / Onyx. Actually according to the anology of Aegis, where the CM-3 is in the UVP Mark-41. Judging by the "tube" of the mobile launcher, the missile was fitted to our UVP, against the mine Nudolev missiles, which are conical, but the maximum diameter is about two meters.

[vargo]

But you must? I'm not special, just thinking. An anti-satellite system on the ship, is it necessary? I understand the C-400 for ship and area protection. But the S-500 already seems more specific for ground complexes. For the ship it seems to me to be superfluous.

[Anachoret]

Well, I would not consider the c500 as "anti-satellite")
As an option - yes, but not the main profile. And this versatility is quite applicable in the future)

[mark1]

10 anti-aircraft missile systems ... Tactically, how much is the system - a battery, a battalion, a regiment?
Although even 10 batteries is very weighty, if in 2-5 places
According to the old plans announced, they were going to order 5 regimental kits, that is, I would venture to suggest that the current question is still about 10 divisions

[Lech from Android.]

If the range of destruction is 600 km, then within a radius of 1200 km, a decent area is obtained ... the savings are clearly observed.

[bayard]

Quote: Lech from Android.

If the range of destruction is 600 km, then within a radius of 1200 km, a decent area is obtained ... the savings are clearly observed.

This is only in the mode of operation for high-altitude and super-high targets, with direct radio visibility of the target.

[bayard]

Quote: mark1

that is, I would venture to suggest that the current question is still about 10 divisions

Most likely you are right, especially since the exact same terminology was used when it came to the supply of S-400 complexes.
I hope that the MO plans for this complex will not be limited to this number.
And it is also gratifying that the radar detector from the S-500 is already starting to arrive for the rearmament of the already deployed S-400 complexes, which seriously expands their combat capabilities, including the time of switching on in the combat mode. Moreover, he is able to work in the mode of alert.

[URAL72]

"At the moment, there is no talk of export versions of this anti-aircraft missile system."

And it is right. The delivery of a complex with such capabilities, primarily in terms of range, for example, to India or Vietnam, can cause an unpredictable reaction from China. An attempt to destroy the complex may well lead to war. In this case, in any case, it will be possible to forget about the SCO.

[bayard]

The S-500 will not be delivered abroad for a long time. Or maybe not at all.
It is simply redundant for an ordinary average country, and it will be to the detriment of sales of the S-400.
But over time, the additional equipment of the S-400 with an export version of the S-500 radar is possible in the future. The range is 400 km. for high-altitude targets, more than enough to provide air defense of any state. The S-500 is already a missile defense system from an MRBM, and possibly (over time) from an ICBM, and can be used for regional missile defense of industrial areas and strategic facilities.

[URAL72]

"The S-500 is already a missile defense system from an MRBM, and possibly (over time) from an ICBM, and can be used for regional missile defense of industrial areas and strategic facilities."

And do you think that India, Iran, Egypt, Algeria will not be interested in this? I think Vietnam too - its economy is developing more than dynamically, Indonesia too. The latter is so vast that God himself commanded, but she has problems with the military budget and resistance against the United States.

[bayard]

Quote: URAL72

And do you think that this will not interest India, Iran, Egypt, Algeria?

Maybe it will interest you, only the S-400 is capable of providing protection from the MRBM, and with the new radar it will do it even more efficiently. If the radar of the updated S-400 and S-500 is the same, then the difference will be only in the SAM. And the characteristics of the S-400, in this case, will be enough for the needs and wishes of everyone.
In terms of the range of destruction of high-altitude aerodynamic targets, the S-500 has no advantages over the S-400 by definition - the ground is round and the target at an altitude of 10 m becomes visible only at a distance of 000 km. Before that, it is below the line of sight and cannot be detected. Longer range is needed to hit targets at an altitude of 400 km. and more, as well as for the detection and destruction of ballistic targets.
This is what I am telling you as, in the past, an officer of the combat directorate of an air defense formation.

[URAL72]

I know what you are saying, as well as the fact that SAM systems rarely operate at maximum range. It's not about it, it's about the altitude that allows you to work on the MRBM, and not just the TR and OTR. This is very important for India, Iran and Vietnam. AFAR (without words), more advanced computing power and software, noise immunity. There are other pluses too. Russia offers prices and quality that cannot be refused. Well, if missiles and launchers from the S-500 are used in the S-400 complex, this will be an ideal export option.

[bayard]

Quote: URAL72

... It's not about it, it's about the altitude that allows you to work on the MRBM, and not just the TR and OTR.

It's about combat algorithms and computing power. And also in the permitting capabilities of the radar.

[spectr]

And it is also gratifying that the radar detector from the S-500 is already starting to arrive for the rearmament of the already deployed S-400 complexes, which seriously expands their combat capabilities, including the time of switching on in the combat mode. Moreover, he is able to work in the mode of alert.

Hardly.

[bayard]

Already enters the troops, thereby expanding the capabilities of the S-400.
There was an article about this even on VO.

And perhaps it is the expectation of such a radar in the naval version for the "Admiral Nakhimov" that delays its modernization. This is my guess, but not from scratch.

[spectr]

Why ship ballistic radar? Moreover, his power must then be "dropped" or a dead zone within a radius of 100 meters must be made so that the crew does not have any health problems.

[bayard]

This is the first radar with AFAR in our air defense missile systems, which can work not in the mode of a short combat activation, but for a long time (it does not get so hot), can work in standby mode. And of course it is universal in purpose.
If it was decided to transfer all the S-400 divisions to these radars, then God himself ordered the heavy missile cruiser. That's just a chilled version is needed.
You just need to familiarize yourself with the data on this radar, and an article about it was not so long ago on this site.

[tralflot1832]

And when does Almaz Antey manage to do everything?

[skif8013]

Quote: tralflot1832

And when does Almaz Antey manage to do everything?

Almazovtsy fellows, I remember when they announced the modernized from 300, someone was joking about from 500 and from 600. They say not during our lifetime, but Almazovs quietly showed them a dupe)))

[spectr]

It depends on who exactly the fellows are. Almaz-Antey is a concern that includes many enterprises and research institutes. And there is also a head office in Moscow. The work is carried out by enterprises and research institutes, and the head office is trying to rent the cream, for which no one likes it.

[skif8013]

Quote: spectr

It depends on who exactly the fellows are. Almaz-Antey is a concern that includes many enterprises and research institutes. And there is also a head office in Moscow. The work is carried out by enterprises and research institutes, and the head office is trying to rent the cream, for which no one likes it.

At the expense of loves. It doesn’t matter obscenely. The main thing is the result. And the result is on the face and he pleases.

[alystan]

Nichrome to myself "dulia" !!!!

[mark1]

The rocket shone, falling, Like a burnt out star. Whoever saw it at least once (God forbid ...), He will never forget (for the rest of his life ...).

[Murmur 55]

It's all the same how they call Prometheus in the West, even a pot, the main thing is that this complex should correspond to the declared characteristics and be available in the troops in the required quantity and the personnel masterfully owned this complex, and let the West be called names

[rocket757]

The question has long been standing like this - How to defeat a power that will not defend itself, but will charge such a response to the aggressor, from which it becomes worse for him specifically and for a long time. However, for the majority, the power's response will be fatal ...
All in the piggy bank of military power .... but do not forget that the powers, often, were weakened, destroyed from the inside !!! in different ways, not without the help of external enemies.

[zadorin1974]

Kind Victor. The golden donkey has not been canceled yet. The good news is that we have raised a generation of tick-tokers for our worries about survival. These are already without a homeland and a flag specifically.

[rocket757]

Greetings Alexey
The situation both in the country and around ... is multi-layered.
Tick-tokers, indifference, sybarism, this is a common misfortune and not only of "developed countries" ... the development of civilization, an increase in prosperity, striving for it, this is a disaster FOR EVERYONE!
People, the majority, have lost their desire, ability to overcome, strive for something more than devour and ...
In reality, survival rates are above average, show people from not prosperous countries ... really not prosperous ones, and not those dissatisfied, snorting, who are furious with fat in those countries that have all the conditions for well-being, just few people are concerned about WORKING for this, but I'm only ready to take what seems to fall from the sky, by itself, by itself ...
So if someone wants to take, take away, he has such problems at home, without the solution of which he simply cannot dive into something else.
By the way, their golden calf, which they can now offer, is very green and moldy from it.
This does not negate the fact that some will get used to this, but not all ...

[zadorin1974]

I have a twofold attitude to today's life. It seems that there is more order in comparison with the nineties. But really the people are fed up with fish soup now. Heard, just give me, and you shouldn't force me to work. department. Sad.

[rocket757]

Any coin has two sides ... sometimes MORE!
I don't like it very much as it is now, but they will just come back, as then (much earlier than the dashing 90s), it does not seem right to me, all the more possible !!!
It is necessary to move forward, to develop from what is, and not to sit on the sirloin and groan, as it was good then, but now it is bad ... everything is learned in comparison, only that with which to compare must still be CREATED !!! Stuck, we are, in an intermediate, unstable state, this is NOT RIGHT.

[zadorin1974]

On the bill that we are stuck and need to change, I completely agree with you. But how to do it right? Although, you know, I probably felt more secure in the dashing nineties than now. At that time we were solving both with drug traffickers (in two months we took everyone in the city - for more than three years bunks went to another city) and with varovays (vegetable gardens, garages, radio tape recorders) on our own. Real rudeness in everyday life was pressed. Now you can't make another remark, especially to youngsters. ) does not decide anything, so directly and throws up her hands. My wife goes for a walk with me only under the oath of children that I will not get involved in anything. That's how we live. One is all up to the waist, others are worried about the consequences.

[rocket757]

There is NO single, most correct recipe ... if someone says that he knows him and will lead, he will lead and ... this is SUSANIN (no offense to the hero said).
And even if there was such a recipe, the PEOPLE themselves are different and they can correct any business in such a way that you won't find ends / edges there.
Let's go, make mistakes, take a step, two back, accelerate and forward again. Life is motion. It's time for us to go on the road!

[Xlor]

I hope that the components it is made of are also Russian-made!

[lopvlad]

It is reported about the first contract for the supply of the S-500 "Prometheus" air defense system to the troops

would rather be already, and so the S-500 air defense system was a fantastic long-term construction.

[rocket757]

Everything is learned in comparison ... ANYWHERE, NO ANYONE, ABM systems - air defense systems do not develop as comprehensively and dynamically as we do ...

[Pamir]

Much air defense missile defense does not exist, especially for open spaces such as ours. As G. Zhukov said, if I am not mistaken in his time, "Great grief awaits in case of war the one who does not defend his sky."

[Pamir]

Taking into account the development of aviation, missiles, air defense-missile defense has long gone into the top five types of weapons. All ground objects, all ground forces, to a large extent the navy, depend on the effectiveness of air defense-missile defense.

[grassyknollgunner]

Congratulations! Another would be a couple of positional areas A-235 ...

[Abrosimov Sergey Olegovich]

Perhaps the question is stupid, naive, but still: I saw photographs of our air defense systems, where the target detection radar is raised to the mast. Why the radar is raised as high as possible - of course, there are no questions. However, the question is: what prevents you from raising the radar even higher by screwing it, for example, to a balloon? In my unenlightened opinion, even higher - even better ...

[spectr]

Most likely more expensive and more difficult to service them. The technique is complex and there periodically something breaks down. So either he lowered the tower or climbed there himself for repairs. And here we need additional infrastructure to service balloons.

[Evil troll]

Banal wind

[Zaurbek]

As I understand it, these particular missiles are specialized (something like the S300pmu) ... but what does he have in the box set? Or does he manage and connect with third-party C350 and C400? They wrote that the C500 has a new overview Afar ....

[alystan]

The news is not just good, but wonderful!
But I, I don't know how others, was jarred by the word contract!
Previously, a contract for me meant an Agreement, a Contract and the Contract itself, but only in this sense. Today this word means first and foremost money, in the sense of "buy and sell" ... And this seems to be not about state affairs / concerns, not about your army / navy, as if we are not talking about the defense and defense of the native state. .. It turns out, God forbid, it will be like in the USA, when they begin to cry that there is not enough money to support the Armed Forces, etc. It is, of course, clear that they have long been so built on market relations. And they will be given money, maybe even more than they ask for. But this is their business, their system.
What if a stupid default or something similar happens? Then all these contracts are down the drain? Is it really necessary in the current conditions to make state defense and security dependent on the presence / absence of money?