Should a murdered survivor be merciful to the murderer, or how do we torture terrorists
“Walking” through the information platforms of world news agencies, I came across interesting material from the British BBC (BBC). Honestly, the title aroused interest - “The Russian was sitting in Guantanamo and the United Arab Emirates. Why are human rights defenders afraid of his extradition to Russia ”. I am familiar with the conditions of detention in this American military prison based on numerous materials from the Western media.
Life in sea containers measuring 2 by 2,4 meters, a walk twice a week in a narrow courtyard between the containers, the almost disenfranchised position of prisoners, since US laws do not apply on the territory of the prison, beatings and torture, and so on, so on, so on. It was not the Russian media that wrote, it was the media in Europe and the United States that reported.
To be completely honest with myself, I am not very interested in how terrorist thugs are kept, even if those who were once my compatriot. A person who has crossed a certain moral line, killing defenseless civilians, is no longer a person. Regardless of the idea he is fighting for. I would compare such people to pigs devouring their offspring. They must be destroyed, no matter how prolific they are.
And further.
After reading the material, I realized that our home-grown journalists had a hand in its creation. Moreover, journalists from Tatarstan. Simply because too much attention has been paid to this particular republic. And the main character is a local native. Alas, but, to my regret, the assumptions were confirmed. Under the material there is a footnote in italics "With the participation of Olga Ivshina" ...
About the attitude towards "Islamic radicals"
When, in 2002, the Americans set up a camp for those accused of terrorism in an indefinitely rented military base in Cuba, the world understood this. Even us. The memories of the horrors of terrorism were too fresh. People who live far away from the terrorists, who watch TV reports of their atrocities, often call for pity on the repentant.
But those who were close to the terrorist attack, who were somehow affected by this terrorist attack, have a completely different opinion. I know this from my own experience. Pity died half an hour after the explosion of a nine-story residential building on the Kashirskoye highway in Moscow. I saw it in half an hour ... Exactly how long it took me to get to the place ...
It was always disgusting for me to read that no matter what the beast in human form, we must re-educate him, must be merciful. Should, should, should ... And the fathers and mothers of the children who died in Beslan should also? And the relatives of those killed in Nord-Ost too? Maybe the husbands of women in labor who died in the Kizlyar maternity hospital will show mercy?
The beast must be in a cage!
Who are Islamic radicals? They have the same relation to Islam as, for example, Jehovah's Witnesses to Christianity. And what you sometimes read in the media causes active rejection. And those who dropped everything and went to kill? Is this not an extreme degree of radicalism? Not a change in consciousness?
They're going to kill. First of all, kill Muslims. Agree that it is Muslims who make up the majority of the victims of terrorists.
Terrorists, and those who went to fight, they are from the moment they took weapon into hands, and the tales that, being in the ranks of terrorist organizations, they were engaged, for example, cooking or providing only medical assistance to the local population, let us leave to “human rights activists” a la Olga Ivshina and others like her. A terrorist is always a terrorist. And his task is to kill and by terror to assert the power of his group.
About pity and mercy for terrorists
The British edition tells the sad stories terrorists whom the Americans, who are very merciful in comparison with the Russians, were released to their homeland, to Russia. After serving some time in Guantanamo, these "people" allegedly re-educated and really wanted to live like everyone else. Peacefully, kindly, humanly. But the evil special services practically did not give them a step to step. They were forced to check in from time to time at the police station, and were summoned to talk to them.
You read - and a tear wells up. They are not some repeat offenders or conditionally convicted criminals. They were re-educated in an American prison. And American prisons are not Russian jails. These are institutions where the very best psychologists, educators and other personnel work. And if they release someone, then this is practically a newborn baby of sins. Clean as a white sheet of paper.
I will not argue with the Air Force. What for?
I’ll just give you excerpts from the same article. The Americans held 8 Russian citizens in prison. They passed seven of them. It is about these re-educated people that the article is talking about:
“... the former Guantanamo prisoners in Russia remained in the field of view of the authorities: constant summons for interrogation, surveillance and threats. In 2005, two - Timur Ishmuratov and the aforementioned Ravil Gumarov - were accused of blowing up the municipal gas pipeline in Bugulma. Both confessed to committing the terrorist attack, but later said in court that they had testified under torture. "
"Another former Guantanamo prisoner, Rasul Kudaev, was accused in 2005 of an armed attack on administrative facilities in Nalchik."
"Rasul Kudayev was sentenced to life imprisonment."
"Rasul Kudayev was sentenced to life imprisonment."
"Ayrat Vakhitov settled in Turkey, from where he traveled to Syria several times, as the United States claimed," to fight in Syria on the side of terrorists. "
“In the summer of 2016, Vakhitov was detained in Istanbul on suspicion of involvement in the explosion at the Ataturk airport. In the same year, the US included Vakhitov on the list of persons accused of having links with terrorists. "
“In the summer of 2016, Vakhitov was detained in Istanbul on suspicion of involvement in the explosion at the Ataturk airport. In the same year, the US included Vakhitov on the list of persons accused of having links with terrorists. "
The remaining three, from those transferred to Russia, were lost somewhere in the vastness of Eurasia, and it is possible that soon we will read a message from some country that the Russians have committed a terrorist attack. As has already happened more than once with the Chechen terrorists who were sheltered by the West after the end of the anti-terrorist operation.
Well, what about pity? How about the American terrorist re-education system?
“Human rights activists” are again calling for justice. Again the intrigues of law enforcement agencies. Again torture and a threat to the life of the poor prisoners. True, Vakhitov disappointed a little. He committed a terrorist attack in another country, which also accepted him out of pity.
But even here there is an excuse for lovers of pity. He was engaged in humanitarian aid to terrorists. That is, he fed, watered and clothed the terrorists in the hope that they would be re-educated and lay down their arms.
Are they trying to keep us for idiots?
During the Great Patriotic War, the American stew was also just humanitarian aid for our soldiers, or did it help to beat the enemy?
I don't want to go to Russia, they'll torture me there
The main character of the BBC material was "the last of the Mohicans", the only terrorist who is still in prison. True, for the past four years, it is no longer in Guantanamo, but in a zindan in the UAE. And it is clear that the Arabs have a slightly different attitude towards their prisoners. They talk less and hope more for education by the forces of nature. The sun is always there, water is in the morning and in the evening and other educational measures. It helps, you know ...
The name of the protagonist is Ravil Mingazov, known to the Guantanamo guard as prisoner number 720. He has been held in a military prison since 2002. Born in Naberezhnye Chelny. A parishioner of the Tauba mosque (translated from Arabic - "repentance"), which fell into the sphere of interest of the FSB immediately after the explosions of residential buildings, with the mention of one of which I began this material, in Moscow. The imam of this mosque was the aforementioned Ayrat Vakhitov, who is still a prisoner of the Turkish zindan.
And in the ranks of terrorists Mingazov appeared in 2000. He was in Tajikistan, Afghanistan, Pakistan in the ranks of the Taliban (requested in the Russian Federation) (according to Ravil himself) or in the ranks of Al-Qaeda (requested in the Russian Federation) (according to the US intelligence services). He was captured by US special forces at an al-Qaeda training camp in Pakistan at the end of December 2002. By the way, exactly where the terrorists who hijacked planes in the United States and committed the terrorist attack on September 11, 2001, trained.
For the first time, Mingazov had the opportunity to return to Naberezhnye Chelny in 2016. The Americans were ready to hand him over to Russia, since they believed that 15 years in prison was enough. But the prisoner actively opposed the return. It was then that a compromise was found. From Cuban Guantanamo, the prisoner was transferred to the UAE zindan.
The reason why the topic of Mingazov's return to Russia has been raised today. The fact is that the Arabs allowed their relatives to meet with the prisoner: the mother and wife, and then the older brother in 2019. What was shown to the old mother is reminiscent of an Arabian fairy tale.
A separate large cell, covered with carpets. Two beautiful peri in guards who fulfill all the desires of the prisoner. The prisoner himself is all in white ... The table is worthy of a padishah ... Mom even gave her own food brought from Tatarstan to the poor guards ...
The brother, however, was more eyed and saw how two stout guards, before the meeting, led Mingazov down the next corridor in shackles and with a sack on his head. Therefore, he perceived all the ostentatious luxury of a prisoner's life in the UAE more objectively. I perfectly understood what the consequences could be if the prisoner suddenly told about the real conditions of detention.
It is clear that the presence of a Russian citizen in the prison of another country negatively affects the country's image. "Human Rights Defenders" periodically tell on various platforms about the neglect of the government of our country towards its own citizens. But, again to quote the British:
“Officially, it is not known about the plans of the Russian authorities to achieve the return of Mingazov to his homeland. While Mingazov was in Guantanamo, Russian officials said in their interviews that they were seeking his return to his homeland.
I cannot judge what Mingazov did in Al-Qaeda (request in RF). I cannot simply because I am not familiar with the materials that the Russian special services have. And somehow it's not very interesting. The man was in the ranks of the terrorists. The man served 15 years in an American prison for something. And today, when there is an opportunity to return, he is actively against it.
Why?
The version offered by "human rights activists" looks ridiculous. They will be tortured because of his religious views.
Which one of us is an idiot? Those who offer this version in Russia, where all world religions and many different local beliefs coexist peacefully, or those who believe in it?
Amnesty cannot be permanent
When Russia, at the request of the President of Syria, began operations against terrorists on the territory of this country, for the members of terrorist groups, citizens of Russia, it was proposed to voluntarily return home, answer for the crimes committed, if there were any, or simply start living a peaceful life if there were no crimes.
There were especially many returns in 2009. Many people remember the widows with children of the perished terrorists, the terrorists themselves, who repented and began to live a normal life. But, alas, among the returnees there were also those who began to actively disseminate their views among Russians.
Amnesty cannot be eternal, otherwise the whole meaning of the existence of laws is lost. That is why today the process of returning to Russia has become more difficult for terrorists. And those who actually participated in hostilities are almost certainly facing real terms, according to the Russian Criminal Code. You have to pay for your actions. You have to pay to participate in the murders.
And the "international community", "human rights defenders" and "fighters against the regime" can independently organize the life of their terrorists re-educated in prisons, somewhere in a third country.
Conclusion briefly
Why is the BBC publishing this material now?
It seems to me that the reason is that it has become difficult for Russian liberals to breathe. Amendments to the Constitution, the law on foreign agents and other innovations in Russian domestic politics severely restrict anti-Russian figures. It is difficult to write about yourself "foreign agent".
Again, just to quote the BBC:
“The human rights organization“ Memorial ”(in Russia the organization is recognized as a foreign agent) in 2015 noted in its report that the investigating authorities abandoned the policy of“ soft power ”that had been in force since 2009 with regard to members of gangs wishing to surrender their weapons and return to peaceful life ".
“For our part, we (human rights defenders) cannot help people who turn to us, who want to surrender their weapons and have no blood on their hands. We cannot guarantee that after being handed over to the prosecutor's office or the "E" center, a person will not be tortured, "
- said human rights activist Oleg Orlov. "
- said human rights activist Oleg Orlov. "
It became dangerous to shit "big", so our liberals began to "shit in a small way."
Well, they cannot work out the money they have already received in another way. They cannot get other money for their meanness. That is why such materials surface in the Western press, designed primarily for those who do not know Russia at all. Those who believe any nonsense written in the media.
The only thing that is bitter to realize after reading such materials is the understanding of the fact that it is quite possible that another person will appear in the world who, due to fear for his life, will never return home, to his mother, to his father, to his wife, to children ... Another tumbleweed will appear ...
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