Russian patrol ship opened warning fire on British destroyer D36 Defender

Coast Guard border patrol ship opened warning fire on destroyer D36 Defender Royal fleet Great Britain, which violated the state border in the area of ​​Cape Fiolent in the Black Sea.

According to the press service of the Black Sea Fleet, the British destroyer violated the Russian border, delving into the territorial waters for 3 km near Cape Fiolent on the Crimean Peninsula. The crew of the destroyer did not react to the warnings and demands of the Russian coast guard patrol ship to leave the Russian waters.

The destroyer entered Russian waters at 11:52, did not respond to demands, warning of use weapons ignored. After that, at 12:06 and 12:08 the border patrol fired warning shots at the British course. And to make it even clearer, nine minutes later, the Russian front-line bomber Su-24M carried out a warning bombing, putting four OFAB-250s on the ship's course.

At 12:23 the British destroyer D36 Defender left the territorial waters of Russia. The Russian Defense Ministry has summoned the British military attaché to provide explanations about the incident, there is no detailed information yet.

Note that the Royal Navy destroyer D36 Defender is part of the escort group of the British aircraft carrier Queen Elizabeth. The D36 Defende, along with the Royal Netherlands Navy's air defense frigate F805 Evertsen, entered the Black Sea on 14 June to "ensure free navigation."

Comments

[figwam]

Now let's hear in the West about Russia's aggression at sea.

[Thrifty]

If the power has the power, then the destroyer had to be Sinked! This is the beginning, there will be many such provocations, the use of force is inevitable! A country that avoids war and shame gets shame and war as a result! A clash with the NATO fleet is inevitable, you need to beat without hesitation, be the first, work proactively, so that we are truly feared, so that they understand that the country's authorities can respond to the provocation accordingly!

[bk316]

then the destroyer had to be HEATED!

Something no one in the USSR followed your advice.

[Cananecat]

Quote: bk316

then the destroyer had to be HEATED!

Something no one in the USSR followed your advice.

It is always more visible from the sofa ...

[For example]

Quote: Thrifty

If the power has the power, then the destroyer had to be Sinked! This is the beginning....

It was necessary to bomb Britain with all guns.
Shoot at them with atomic pistols.

What are you drinking there?

[Thrifty]

For example, I am more sober than you, do not judge by others if you yourself are in a binge

[hydrox]

But how shameful was Peskov's appeal to the Western countries:
"Moscow regrets the provocation of the British destroyer ..."
Where and where, Moscow regrets again how the Russian border was violated in the Peter the Great Gulf.
And how many more regrets the Russian official Peskov has in store for Western provocateurs ???
And if you take into account that there was also an American reconnaissance aircraft hanging around there, then Pierrot's sob would be quite appropriate for Peskov.

[Fitter65]

Quote: Canecat

It is always more visible from the sofa ...

Especially after a couple of bubbles of beer.

[Thrifty]

Fitter65-too, on a binge? Or, the main thing is to grunt, do not burn with the desire to answer for the market? Have you poured for me, drank with me? I would write honestly that I think about such inadequate people, but I will save emotions. ....

[Sergey Averchenkov]

And I would have a drink with almost everyone here. :) And more than once. :) With you too. :) But not beer ... not serious. :) Eh, some all the right ones went - no drinking, no smoking ... also a rubber woman and a complete set.

[your1970]

Quote: Canecat

Quote: bk316

then the destroyer had to be HEATED!

Something no one in the USSR followed your advice.

It is always more visible from the sofa ...

and you are many cases BOMB on the course of the ship heard in the USSR ??? About piles and displacements - it was, but to bomb - did not bomb ...

[glk63]

They bombed. (Sablin, if memory serves)

[your1970]

Quote: glk63

They bombed. (Sablin, if memory serves)

They compared it to me too .... Sablin - NOT NATO, it had no nuclear weapons ...

[Antokha]

Something no one in the USSR followed your advice

So there were enough bzdilogons. Suffice it to recall how the Korean Boeing was merged in 1983.

[fruc]

Shot down and did the right thing. It is a pity that it is not over Kamchatka. To fit right into the volcano.

[Antokha]

The fact that they shot down is excellent, I admit it. But this was due to the courage of the field commanders, who could not get a clear response from the high-echelon monitors in the middle of the night.
The problem, however, is different. Our (Andropov) then completely merged the information front, accepting the American fake that it was a passenger Boeing that was shot down, and not a reconnaissance, as it was in fact. The passenger Boeing was blown up by the Americans themselves later and much to the south. And so, all the negativity poured out on us, and we were not to blame. For this, and other similar events, I call the Soviet leadership a bad word.

[dauria]

The passenger Boeing was blown up by the Americans themselves later and much to the south.

Uh-huh, and also the aliens from Tau Kita dragged the wreckage and passengers' belongings to the place where the "scout" shot down by our Su-15 fell.
There, the incident was scheduled every minute and the interview was with the pilot back then, in the 80s. What is it to compose fables?
Shot down by a stray passenger liner, mistaking it for an intruder because of an American grazing northward. There was no time to sort it out, the goal was leaving our territorial waters. The result of the Cold War, lack of emergency intergovernmental ties and lack of time. It's a pity for people, there are no guilty ones. The Korean liner commander made a fatal mistake that led to the tragedy.

[glk63]

"The Korean liner commander made a fatal mistake that led to the tragedy." I wonder if any of the flying people made such a "mistake"? "the plane flew with a constant magnetic heading of 245º". Well, a very experienced FAC ...)

[Antokha]

Don't lala, dauria. Heard the ringing and repeat. Read books.

[mark1]

Well, where is the USSR?

[fruc]

But the enemy planes (violators) knocked down with a bang.

[bk316]

atoms enemy planes (violators) knocked down with a bang.

Aircraft - yes. I think it's still ahead ...

[fruc]

Well, these provocateurs are not the first. This will happen as soon as they see a weakness (gap) in the protection of the borders.

[Goffman]

The list of NATO aircraft that invaded the airspace of the USSR and were shot down in the 50s and 60s is not small enough. But formally, yes, they were not destroyers.

[yehat2]

Quote: bk316

Something no one in the USSR followed your advice.

And maybe in vain, because the United States has repeatedly tried to seize Soviet ships, which not only violated the borders, but simply ended up next to an important area.
this was the case during nuclear tests, accidents of our submarines, during reconnaissance near Korea and the landing sites of the lunar program, and in a number of other incidents, such as the Caribbean one.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: bk316

Something no one in the USSR followed your advice.

Yes, there was no need in the USSR, they were afraid to do this. Once we went to the ram so everyone remembered. And now check "for lice", no need to drown, but well, 100 meters from the side, from the tank and stern to pass in one gulp, it would be sobering, yes, with a beautiful boatswain's mate for 10 minutes on VHF on channel 16. (The Brita are formidable in appearance: well, bzd .... woolly.)

[your1970]

Quote: tihonmarine

but it's good 100 meters from the side, from the tank and stern, drive in one gulp,

-you haven’t tried to read the article ???? there actually 4pcs 250 OFAB (250kg high-explosive fragmentation !!) on the course put !!!!!

[tihonmarine]

Quote: your1970

-you haven't tried to read the article ???

I TRIED TO RUN !!!!!!!!!!!!

[your1970]

Quote: tihonmarine

Quote: your1970

-you haven't tried to read the article ???

I TRIED TO RUN !!!!!!!!!!!!

-What did the OFABs displease you, I'm ashamed to ask?

[tihonmarine]

Quote: your1970

-What did the OFABs displease you, I'm ashamed to ask?

Yes, they are also a wonderful action, only the ram is more beautiful.

[Adimius38]

for example, planes were shot down at a time two or three in the USSR. In any case, he had to be drowned if he continued the course

[your1970]

Quote: Adimius38

if he continued the course

He quite quickly turned away and came out of our waters .. If he went into the depths, then yes

[Sirocco]

In the USSR, there was only a heap and then it was the remnants of the courage of decision-making of old officers, and the beginning of the end of decision-making was laid upon arrival in Moscow to Red Square Matthias Rust, since then real officers are not welcome in the army, sycophants, sycophants, and commercial, that's what is held in high esteem today. If everyone was like Filippov, Prokhorenko, then there would be no such violations from these ghouls. And this year began with Poland-Tabaki.

[carstorm 11]

Don't carry garbage, huh? Expulsion from ter.vod is a common thing. Sink this war to start. Cool off.

[Thrifty]

carstorm11 is you talking about garbage! This is not just a provocation, this is a test of strength! They want to publicly humiliate Russia in order to impose their own "rules of the game", that is, to take the Russian Sea under their full control!

[carstorm 11]

Have taken? Take it easy.

[mole]

Quote: carstorm 11

Have taken? Take it easy.

If our destroyer is in their territory, will he take their waters? Unlikely. But he'll get a couple of shells. At the same time, the Western media will "tell" the whole world about the Russian aggression.
Just do not justify the actions of the destroyer by the loss of orientation.
They did it purposefully, provoked it purposefully, checked it out. Based on the analysis, "checks" will continue to operate in accordance with what is permitted. If we got a couple of shots on board, then the vaccination against the virus of indifference went to work.
And so, we will continue ...

[carstorm 11]

The only difference is that we don't. Difference from them

[Alexander Seklitsky]

Well, next time they will put a bomb closer to the side and not 250, but 500.

[bk316]

This is not just a provocation, this is a test of strength!

Exactly in the same situation and even in almost the same place under the USSR it was a provocation, but now "is it different?"

[TAMBU]

today this sea is more Turkish than Russian ...

[Dart2027]

Quote: Thrifty

This is not just a provocation, this is a test of strength!

One ship? And will he fight a lot?

[saturn.mmm]

Quote: Thrifty

They want to publicly humiliate Russia in order to impose their own "rules of the game", that is, to take the Russian Sea under their full control!

Based on the distance to the sea (length of the coastline)) Turkey is the leader. The Black Sea coast of this country extends over 1595 km and makes up about half of the entire Black Sea coast (46,9%). This is, of course, the entire south coast.

The second country that is slightly inferior in these distances is Russia. Russia owns 1330 km of the coast (this is, of course, taking into account the Crimea, although some may not like it, but the fact is, there is a fact). All other countries in this region have much more modest "indicators".[Quote] [/ quote]
How would it be, if not for the revolution and Kolchak brought his plan to the end, then the Black Sea could rightfully be called "Russian".

[alaarsen]

Well, I'm for tough measures against the Saxons, of course, but about the Russian sea ... it's the same Russian as the Turkish and Bulgarian, and so on.

[Thrifty]

Over time, the minds of those who pass by will wake up, but perhaps by that time there will already be a war going on with might and main, and all because the authorities were afraid to show strength when it was vital! And it's pointless to wind snot on our fist, in this chess we sink ourselves into a stalemate. .... Minus, you are not capable of more, as well as to understand that this provocation will inevitably follow! !!

[carstorm 11]

Wang woke up? Take it easy.

[Thrifty]

carstorm11 -do not hammer, and do not be cheated in response! I am calmer than you, only I know how to draw conclusions, and you know how to shout in public. ...

[For example]

Quote: Thrifty

Only me I can draw conclusions ...

[Luty]

My friend was the first to discover England and Zanzibar last year during the period of the virus rampage. And you say to drown the English EM)))))

[Looking for]

I agree with your point of view. But do not pay attention to those who pass by, this is a Russian site only at first glance.

[Dart2027]

Quote: Thrifty

Minus, you are not capable of more, as well as to understand that this provocation will inevitably follow!

Continue your hysteria, you can’t do more.

[Radio operator and engineer]

Yeah, of course ... Bomb this sacred thing. And when the machine itself is allowed to continue. What we started: mother! They take the army there! Time to go to the hospital!

[mole]

Quote: Thrifty

Over time, the minds of those who pass by will wake up, but perhaps by that time there will already be a war going on with might and main, and all because the authorities were afraid to show strength when it was vital! And it's pointless to wind snot on our fist, in this chess we sink ourselves into a stalemate. .... Minus, you are not capable of more, as well as to understand that this provocation will inevitably follow! !!

Then the minusors will be lifted from the couch (comfortable chair) and the destroyers will be sent to "wet". But it will be too late.
On the other hand, the "minusers" learn the taste of gunpowder.

[Timon2155]

Totally agree with you! Let them minus, who counts them? Put on the opinion of local and non-local Jews and Ukrainians! They treated the destroyer gently for fear of those sitting upstairs - they would take away the money, not let it go abroad, and so on. The time will come to press the button - they will do the same at the top. There is no decisiveness, with such we will lose the war.

[mark1]

Quote: carstorm 11

Expulsion from ter.vod is a common thing.

You see - if this is an ordinary thing (routine), then the comedy will continue. The case should be not only unusual but also extremely risky for the offending party. To drown, not to drown, but to damage, disembark an inspection group, arrest, deafen electronic warfare, and so forth, actions are simply necessary to discipline.

[carstorm 11]

And it will be if it tramples. In my taam they showed everything openly. Bombing on course is not even a hint.

[mark1]

Quote: carstorm 11

Bombing on course is not even a hint.

This is what inspires optimism, if only they do not change their minds ...

[mole]

Quote: carstorm 11

And it will be if it tramples. In my taam they showed everything openly. Bombing on course is not even a hint.

Where to hint next? Have you violated the border? How to handle the offender. Who cares whose flag! Violated, detained, then changed or shot. And then the Brits can, the Zulus not? Politics!

[carstorm 11]

They were thrown out. Do you so want to fight from the couch? 0

[TAMBU]

stun electronic warfare? I will be very surprised if this can be done for a ship of this class ...

[mark1]

Quote: TAMBU

I will be very surprised if this can be done for a ship of this class ...

So I'm wondering ... - I should try ... or some kind of "Alabuga" warning "on the course". Stop training on "cats", it's time for "old ladies" ...

[your1970]

Quote: mark1

drop off the inspection team,

-on the MILITARY ship ????? what for ???? Let's just put nuclear weapons across London and that's all ..
why get dirty ...

if you do not understand, what you are proposing is WAR, automatically.
Warships are not subject to inspection ....

[mole]

Military or not, the ship, first of all, it violated sovereignty.

[mole]

Yes, and they are not subject to inspection beyond 12 miles. They broke this rule. Based on the foregoing, they themselves "stopped" in our legislation and agreed with it. Those. they agree with the Government Decree # 80 on the procedure for the use of weapons. Those. initially agreed to their destruction for the interests of the small British Empire in our waters. Samurai, mln.
Now we are waiting for further provocations.

[Ross xnumx]

Quote: your1970

if you do not understand, what you are proposing is WAR, automatically.
Warships are not subject to inspection ....

You justify your conclusions. They "zhahnuli" on the Georgian boats. On Ukrainian boats - "walked in passing." And what about the British intruder who does not respond to warnings in any way? Or is there a homeland?
Read and listen, so it's time to legalize Western values ​​- maybe they will be accepted into a European club.
Up to this point, the most sensible and correct message:

Quote: mark1

The case should be not only unusual but also extremely risky for the offending party. To drown, not to drown, but to damage, disembark a search group, arrest, deafen electronic warfare, and so forth, actions are simply necessary to discipline.

[your1970]

Quote: ROSS 42

They "zhahnuli" on Georgian boats.

- NOT a NATO member

Quote: ROSS 42

On Ukrainian boats - "walked in passing."

- NOT a NATO member

Quote: ROSS 42

And what about a British intruder who does not react to warnings in any way

is a member of NATO.
Catch the difference?
In my opinion, what has been done is quite enough. Even the USSR just modestly piled on - without shooting and bombing ...

[fruc]

If you mean business as usual expulsion only from Russian territorial ships of the navy, to what will we then live? For you, I understood that everything is normal, ordinary?

[tihonmarine]

Quote: carstorm 11

Don't carry garbage, huh? Expulsion from ter.vod is a common thing. Sink this war to start. Cool off.

Well, sit then and do not blather. Drowning barbarism, but there are methods that are no worse, and not prohibited.

[carstorm 11]

So we sit. And the boat is bye bye. Everything is done according to the mind.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: carstorm 11

Don't carry garbage, huh? Expulsion from ter.vod is a common thing. Sink this war to start. Cool off.

Drink Coca COL y, it helps!

[Adimius38]

garbage will be when this destroyer will be in Sevastopol. IF ALL THE TIME moves backwards then this shit happens

[alekseykabanets]

Quote: Thrifty

A country that avoids war and shame gets shame and war as a result! A collision with the NATO fleet is inevitable, you need to beat without hesitation, be the first, work proactively, so that we are truly feared,

Fists, sitting on the couch, combed it? Scratch against the wall! To be able to beat, you need to develop your economy. For example, the US economy is about a quarter of world GDP, and how much does Russia have? A little more than 2 percent? In addition, the lion's share of Russia's GDP is made up of revenues from raw materials exports, just to the NATO countries. In this situation, do you want to sink NATO ships? The USSR did not allow itself this, although it was incomparably more powerful than the Russian Federation.

[kventinasd]

Quote: aleksejkabanets

For example, the US economy is about a quarter of world GDP, and how much does Russia have? A little more than 2 percent? In addition, the lion's share of Russia's GDP is made up of revenues from raw materials exports to NATO countries.

Yes, yes, and do not forget to take the transfer to Navalny.

[alekseykabanets]

Quote: kventinasd

Yes, yes, and do not forget to take the transfer to Navalny.

And in fact there is something to object to the comment?

[kventinasd]

Quote: aleksejkabanets

And in fact there is something to object to the comment?

There is! The manuals are somehow outdated.

the share of GDP of the Russian Federation is made up of revenues from commodity exports

For several years, less than 30%

[alekseykabanets]

Quote: kventinasd

For several years, less than 30%

No need to wishful thinking.
https://1prime.ru/state_regulation/20190919/830338839.html
Why do you think that raw materials are only oil and gas?
Take an interest in the export of technologies from the Russian Federation or high-tech products. Does the RF sell a lot of high value added products?

[Dart2027]

Quote: aleksejkabanets

Does RF sell a lot of high value added products?

How much did the USSR sell to developed countries? Germany there, Japan, etc.?

[alekseykabanets]

Quote: Dart2027

How much did the USSR sell to developed countries? Germany there, Japan, etc.?

Perhaps you have forgotten that the USSR had its own markets and sources of raw materials, from the CMEA countries to Africa. You probably did not live at that time and do not remember such a thing as "cold war"? Why else are you asking such stupid questions? Google for cold war.

[Dart2027]

Quote: aleksejkabanets

Perhaps you have forgotten that the USSR had its own markets and sources of raw materials, from the CMEA countries to Africa. You probably did not live at that time and do not remember such a thing as "cold war"?

That is, it supplied only energy resources to developed countries. And no "Cold War" interfered with this. As no XB prevented from buying a floating dock from the same Japanese.

[alekseykabanets]

Quote: Dart2027

That is, it supplied only energy resources to developed countries. And no "Cold War" interfered with this. As no XB prevented from buying a floating dock from the same Japanese.

What are "developed countries" in your liberal understanding? Weren't the GDR or Yugoslavia or Czechoslovakia developed countries? For a moment, 40% of the civil aviation market belonged to the USSR, but now? To slightly correct the gaps in education, look at least here:
https://finance.rambler.ru/markets/40923351-kakie-tovary-prodaval-sssr-na-zapad-v-poslednie-gody/

[Dart2027]

Quote: aleksejkabanets

What are "developed countries" in your liberal understanding?

Quote: Dart2027

Germany there, Japan, etc.?

Quote: aleksejkabanets

Weren't the GDR or Yugoslavia or Czechoslovakia developed countries?

And they were more developed than the FRG?

[alekseykabanets]

Quote: Dart2027

And they were more developed than the FRG?

In any case, comparable.

[Dart2027]

Quote: aleksejkabanets

In any case, comparable.

That is not.

[alekseykabanets]

Quote: Dart2027

That is not.

Why do you think so? Whatever the question, this is the answer.

Quote: Dart2027

And they were more developed than the FRG?

Do you have any clear criteria for comparison? You can compare.

[Dart2027]

Quote: aleksejkabanets

What a question, that’s the answer.

Quote: Dart2027

How much did the USSR sell to developed countries? Germany there, Japan, etc.?

Quote: aleksejkabanets

Do you have any clear criteria for comparison?

Quote: Dart2027

no XB prevented buying a floating dock from the same Japanese

[alekseykabanets]

That is, you cannot offer any criteria. The usual liberal blah blah blah. Now I say goodbye. Bored girls.

[Dart2027]

Quote: aleksejkabanets

That is, you cannot offer any criteria.

https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A0%D0%B0%D0%B7%D0%B2%D0%B8%D1%82%D1%8B%D0%B5_%D1%81%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B0%D0%BD%D1%8B
So what did the USSR supply to Germany, France, Japan, England, USA, etc.?

[alekseykabanets]

Quote: Dart2027

So what did the USSR supply to Germany, France, Japan, England, USA, etc.?

What was the question?

Quote: aleksejkabanets

What are "developed countries" in your liberal understanding?

Then we talked about the criteria for assessing the development of a country.

Quote: aleksejkabanets

Do you have any clear criteria for comparison? You can compare.

You do not give evaluation criteria, for that you refer to Western countries everywhere.
What then can I talk to you about?
PS If you are referring to something, then take the trouble to at least read what you refer to.))) In 2008, the Socialist camp was long gone and your liberal "effective managers" destroyed the industry to please Western corporations, not only on the ruins of the USSR. Besides, where is China or is it not a developed country? You'd better find a more authoritative source, with more sane assessment criteria, over those years. Better yet, write yourself the criteria by which you would like to compare these countries. Well, if you can, of course.))))

[Dart2027]

Quote: aleksejkabanets

You do not give evaluation criteria, for that you refer to Western countries everywhere.

Quote: aleksejkabanets

Take an interest in the export of technologies from the Russian Federation or high-tech products.

I asked a very simple question with specific countries (Germany, France, Japan, England, USA) and in response I received only vague excuses that the USSR was supplying the countries of the socialist camp that depended on it and could only buy the same aircraft from it. So what did the USSR supply to Germany, France, Japan, England, USA, etc.? Will you answer or not?

Quote: aleksejkabanets

In 2008, the Socialist camp was long gone and your liberal "effective managers" destroyed the industry to please Western corporations, not only on the ruins of the USSR.

This is the problem of the USSR.

Quote: aleksejkabanets

You'd better find a more authoritative source, with more sane assessment criteria.

That is, there is nothing to argue?

[Alekseev]

Quote: aleksejkabanets

For example, the US economy is about a quarter of world GDP, and the Russian Federation has how much

That's for sure! The US economy is large, but not only economies are at war and they are different in quality; national income is created in different ways in many economies.
if we were to measure the percentages, then Biden and Putin would not be sitting at the same table.
"For example," who is not clear, let me remind you of a well-known anecdote.
Joe, will you eat a bunch of shit for my million dollars? Yes, Bill did. Bill, will you eat the same pile, also give a million? Sure! We sat for a while and Joe says: Bill, don't you think that we ate shit for free ... Yes ... But, for that, we had a deal with a turnover of 2 million dollars !!!
As for the actions of the Black Sea Fleet, they are adequate, if there is a repetition, then it is very possible to run into a mine. War times.

[alekseykabanets]

Quote: Alekseev

As for the actions of the Black Sea Fleet, they are adequate, if there is a repetition, then it is very possible to run into a mine. Times of war

And where did I say that the actions of the Black Sea Fleet were inadequate? Of course, the Black Sea Fleet acted adequately. As for the mines during the war, well, what will be their problems.)))) Of course, the Black Sea Fleet will then provide all the necessary assistance.

Quote: Alekseev

The US economy is large, but not only economies are at war ...

And here it is true, but we know that, for example, in the Second World War, the USSR surpassed Germany in the number of tanks, aircraft, food, etc., and without this victory would have been impossible. In matters of principle, little has changed since then. Today Russia can economically, at least approach the aggregate economy of the NATO countries? And in terms of the numerical strength of the Armed Forces, it cannot, and in terms of the number of weapons, it cannot, etc. Tell Alexei yourself, what kind of war with NATO can you call today? And yet, without a developed economy and industry, we will be treated only as a monkey with a nuclear button.
PS I just got this urapatriotism and shapkozakidatelstvo.

[Xnumx vis]

Quote: aleksejkabanets

the USSR surpassed Germany

Keyword THE USSR !!! As a result of perestroika organized by the communists Gorbachev, Yeltsin, Kravchukov, Nazarbayev, Shushkevich, the country was destroyed. We are Russia. lost half of the territory, one hundred million of the population. Yes, Russia is strong! But it would be even more powerful!

[alekseykabanets]

Quote: 30 vis

The key word is USSR !!! As a result of perestroika, organized by the communists Gorbachev, Yeltsin, Kravchukov, Nazarbayev, Shushkevich, the country was destroyed. We, Russia. lost half of the territory, one hundred million of the population. Yes, Russia is strong! But it would be even more powerful!

And don't remind me, isn't your idol Yeltsin carrying flowers on the grave and talking about democracy there? Chubais jailed? Was Gorbachev imprisoned? Those who destroyed the USSR, and they use the fruits of thieves' privatization and medals from the hands of your idol.

[Xnumx vis]

My president returned my hometown of Sevastopol to Russia! And your idol, the drunk communist Yeltsin gave everything and drank it. It was you who applauded the traitor Gorbachev at the desks. meetings! Shouted Urya !!! unanimously! The unanimous communists shouted.

[alekseykabanets]

Quote: 30 vis

And your idol, the drunk communist Yeltsin gave everything and drank it. It was you who applauded the traitor Gorbachev at the desks. meetings!

How is your health? Are you okay? This is your nullified idol applauded the drunk Yeltsin and still sheds a tear on his grave on memorable dates.)))) He is still, probably, grateful to Chubais for the fact that he was attached to a warm place. How else to explain the unfortunate fact that he still does not fell the forest on Kalym?

Quote: 30 vis

My president returned my hometown of Sevastopol to Russia!

I don’t need to pass off defeats for victories here! Tell this to some pimply victim of the Unified State Exam, the mediocre foreign policy of the current state made it possible to take almost all the CIS countries out of its influence. They took Sevastopol, at first ineptly lost the whole of Ukraine, having raised on the borders of my country a hostile, semi-fascist, Russophobic state, consisting of Russians. Thanks to this "wise" politician, tomorrow there will be missiles aimed at my city. Exactly the same song threatens to be repeated in Belarus.

[Xnumx vis]

Your communists pro .. or the country, and you are here now accuse everyone and everything of their sins. You know, I have a few acquaintances who have passed. So they got into the Communist Party, the authorities are climbing. to the deputies. I represent. that will God forbid they will crawl through ... darkness. scum. ... This is their current com. the consignment . They take shit from the street.

[alekseykabanets]

Quote: 30 vis

Your communists pro ... or the country, and you here now accuse everyone and everything of their sins

So your idol was a communist.)))) Vlasov also wore a party card, like the company of your idols, only with Vlasov "something went wrong", and your idols were "happy". Now your idols, followed Vlasova, own "factories, newspapers, ships", and you sing along with them. I hope you at least get paid for this.

Quote: 30 vis

You know, I have a few acquaintances.

There is a saying: "tell me who your friend is and I will tell you who you are." And I have no acquaintances of progression, I do not know the villains.

Quote: 30 vis

So they got into the Communist Party, the authorities are climbing ... This is the current com. the consignment

And what does the Communist Party of the Russian Federation have to do with the CPSU? What does the Communist Party have to do with the communists in general? Have you read the CPRF charter and program? Where is there about communism? This is an ordinary Social Democratic party.

Quote: 30 vis

They take shit from the street.

Are you talking about United Russia?

[alekseykabanets]

Quote: 30 vis

Quote: 30 vis
My president returned my hometown of Sevastopol to Russia!

I don’t need to pass off defeats for victories here! Tell this to some pimply victim of the Unified State Exam, the mediocre foreign policy of the current state made it possible to take almost all the CIS countries out of its influence. They took Sevastopol, at first ineptly lost the whole of Ukraine, having raised on the borders of my country a hostile, semi-fascist, Russophobic state, consisting of Russians. Thanks to this "wise" politician, tomorrow there will be missiles aimed at my city. Exactly the same song threatens to be repeated in Belarus.

So there is nothing to answer? You "urapatriots" are great masters to divert the conversation from uncomfortable questions.)))

[Xnumx vis]

Talking to you, how to communicate with a capercaillie .. There is no point, no interest. I suspect that you are a Cossack from Svidobandria, or God's chosen figures ... Here you graze out of hatred for Russia.

[alekseykabanets]

Quote: 30 vis

Talking to you, how to communicate with a capercaillie .. There is no point, no interest.

That is, instead of answering uncomfortable questions - into the bushes.))))) I did not expect anything else.

Quote: 30 vis

I suspect that you are a Cossack from Svidobandria, or God's chosen figures ... Here you graze out of hatred for Russia.

You need a politician. Such characters usually graze there.

[alekseykabanets]

Quote: 30 vis

We, Russia. lost half of the territory, one hundred million of the population. Yes, Russia is strong! But it would be even more powerful!

There is no need to put on the same level the USSR and those non-states that thieves built on its ruins.

[Alekseev]

Quote: aleksejkabanets

And in terms of the numerical strength of the Armed Forces, it cannot, and in terms of the number of weapons it cannot, etc.

That's for sure! And from hurray-patriots more harm than from enemies, that's right.
But ... now the spiral of dialectics in the matter of war and the army has developed in such a way that the "armed people", ie. huge armies of the 20th century have lost their relevance ... Strategic forces of nuclear deterrence can overnight destroy the very economy and "surplus" manpower. and the smaller and more densely populated the state, the more different infrastructure there, the richer it lives, the more it fears a serious war, everyone understands this, but they cannot fail to shit out of principled considerations.

[alekseykabanets]

Quote: Alekseev

But ... now the spiral of dialectics in the matter of war and the army has developed in such a way that the "armed people", ie. huge armies of the 20th century have lost their relevance ...

The army is, but the people are not. And this is where our main problem lies. The authorities do not have the support of the people, and not only in our state. Without taking into account the pensioners from "Putin's Detachments", we will see confusion and vacillation in society. Not Navalny is the boat shaking. I am scared to imagine what will happen in territories where at some point there will be no central government.

Quote: Alekseev

The strategic forces of nuclear deterrence can overnight destroy the very economy and "surplus" of manpower. and the smaller and more densely populated the state, the more different infrastructure there, the richer it lives, the more it fears a serious war, everyone understands this, but they cannot fail to shit for fundamental reasons.

There is some truth in this statement, but I believe that a modern war will look more like a coup in Ukraine (in our case). Let's imagine, for example, that Japan decided to squeeze out the Kuril Islands. What will happen in this case? Whether we can keep them without the use of nuclear weapons is a very controversial question. And if not, will the Russian Federation use nuclear weapons? If applicable, it is international isolation, international court (trial with a predetermined result), seizure of foreign assets of oligarchs, etc. This will end with an instant impoverishment of the population and the Maidan in favor of the "offended" oligarchs or a regime worse than Pinochet's, which will also not hold out for more than a decade. And if not, and the japa will squeeze out the Kuril Islands? Then, too, Maidan, but under patriotic slogans, and the most important "patriots" will be from "United Russia", such as Fedorov. I don't think there is a need to use nuclear weapons against us today. Tomorrow, when we slide down to the level of Iraq or Libya, under the "urapatriotic" slogans, yes, they will definitely apply.

[TAMBU]

can be counted in terms of aircraft produced per year ... shall we count? they fight primarily by economies ... and everything else is their derivative ...

[your1970]

Quote: Alekseev

The US economy is big, but not only economies are at war

- are fighting only economics - Hitler just thought how you - so he had to be poisoned ...

[Incvizitor]

Yes it is useless, they have already sat on the "favorite skate" of America, the best of all, now it will be like this for a couple of days.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: aleksejkabanets

Fists, sitting on the couch, combed it? Scratch against the wall!

Thank you, the adept of the State Department, that you just did not have enough. (Hello grandpa.)

[alekseykabanets]

Quote: tihonmarine

Thank you, the adept of the State Department, that you just did not have enough. (Hello grandpa.)

What, in fact, has nothing to say about the comment? How predictable you are urapatriots.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: aleksejkabanets

What, in fact, has nothing to say about the comment?

Well, what can I say about you? Everyone already knows you. "The dollar is not a currency, but a premium."

[Sasha Minakov]

a quarter of world GDP?) tin. Why then are there millions of beggars?) if everything is so great there?

[alekseykabanets]

Quote: Sasha Minakov

a quarter of world GDP?) tin. Why then are there millions of beggars?) if everything is so great there?

Yes, a quarter of the world's GDP, sadly. And who said that everything is great there? However, ordinary people in the United States, on average, have a significantly higher level of income than Russians.)))

[DymOk_v_dYmke]

Quote: aleksejkabanets

For example, the US economy is about a quarter of world GDP, and how much does Russia have?

No need to write too much.
Any turnover in dollars brings profit to the striped ones.
You can cut it off only by excluding the dollar from the calculations.

[isv000]

Quote: Thrifty

If the power has the power, then the destroyer had to be Sinked!

It was possible to drive deeper and detain, with the use of force, and marinate against the wall for a week ...

[fruc]

If he (the destroyer) had been bombarded with cannon fire, it would have been normal. Instead of waiting for it to go 3 km deep into the territorial waters.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: frruc

If he (the destroyer) had been flashed with cannon fire, it would have been normal.

Yes, it's easier to launch a couple of torpedoes into the side (training blanks), I would have watched the Brit spinning a kebab on a spit.

[PROXOR]

Are you out of your mind? Repeat NAVAL as in 1986.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: PROXOR

Are you out of your mind? Repeat NAVAL as in 1986.

Are you writing sir, or HOW?

[tihonmarine]

Quote: PROXOR

Are you out of your mind? Repeat NAVAL as in 1986.

I know that for you Americans this is horror, but for us it is like dipping three fingers with urine.

[Vadmir]

Repeat NAVAL as in 1986.

In 1986, they tried Gorbachev "weakly" and realized that it was weak. Then they pressed on and the USSR no longer exists.
If they had sunk them then, they would have spoiled relations no more, maybe the Union would still have existed.

[Romario_Argo]

If the power has the power, then the destroyer had to be Sinked!

the question is good, but the question is whether onyx anti-ship missiles can be controlled or autonomously get into a certain area of ​​the ship - just to damage
there is something to work on our design bureau

[Vadmir]

And why a rocket, a burst of 30 mm cannon on the superstructure, the destroyer has no armor. They would have turned them away, like dear ones, but if they had snapped back with fire, then they would have hit with a rocket, if they drown after that, then so be it, they themselves ran into.
There will be no war for this, but the sanctions are already on the rise.
And concerns and heaps only lead to the fact that they become impudent and will be repeated again.

[Romario_Argo]

And concerns and heaps only lead to the fact that they become impudent and will repeat again

I would like to see the bulk performed by SVP Samum or Bora pr. 1239
in dynamic cushion mode at 60 knots
The Saxons are still lucky - so there is still something to answer in the future.

[Vadmir]

Any bulk, it is also damage to your own ship, and we do not have so many of them. And at 60 nodes, this is the risk of not only damage, but also self-drowning, and the pillow may not save you. If, at the same time, a foreign ship sinks, then the consequences will be the same as when this ship is hit by a missile, so why be shy.

[Victor Tsenin]

Do you feel that such an action is inadequate and disproportionate? Do you understand that no government would do that, given the circumstances? But accidentally piercing the deck with a training bomb, it is adequate and no coincidence)

[mole]

"If the power has the power, then the destroyer should have been SOLDERED!"
I agree with you !!!
Let's imagine a mirror image. Our destroyer in their territorial waters ??? Would you let our destroyer go 3 miles? Most likely, they began to fire warning shots within 3 miles. With subsequent press coverage. If an armed "woman" illegally crosses the border, then he is destroyed. Then they "talk".
If you do not like it, then go disarmed yourself, get up from the sofa (chair) and show the "master class"!

[Bashibuzuk1]

There are a lot of literate people, few smart ones. It's about drowning. '' The British understood everything perfectly.

[Maikcg]

Whoa-whoa, admiral-field marshal, can it be easier to proactively fire a Mace across London?

[Gunther]

what seditious did Thrifty say?
that it is necessary to draw a line, crossing which the enemy will receive a war, that the enemy must know this border?
if it is good to wipe your eyes and insist that this is God's dew, then first the mattresses will again fit into our waters of the Peter the Great Gulf - having come a thousand miles away, then they will be trampled into the Sea of ​​Azov with the justification “we do not recognize that these are the territorial waters of Russia”.
if you do not give a tough answer, you can forget about the state border.

[tech3030]

There was no shooting. Cheeks puff out and wishful thinking! Ugh!

[glk63]

And why so many minuses - "The destroyer entered the Russian waters at 11:52, did not react to the demands, ignored the warning about the use of weapons." They shot down a Boeing in due time, and they did the right thing. It's bad that they started to lie, yes. And now, the fact of violation, not obeying legal requirements, everything can be unambiguously recorded ... And the fact that some countries "do not recognize Crimea as ours" is purely their own business.

[sivuch]

If the power has the power, then the destroyer had to be Sinked!
Why waste time on trifles, you have to bomb London at once. And it's better with a vigorous loaf.

[Aaron Zawi]

Quote: figvam

Now let's hear in the West about Russia's aggression at sea.

As I understand it, this is an attempt to emphasize that Britain does not recognize the sovereignty of the Russian Federation in Crimea.

[PN]

And we, as it were, put on what MelkoBritania recognizes and what does not.

[Aaron Zawi]

Quote: PN

And we, as it were, put on what MelkoBritania recognizes and what does not.

I did not write about the position of the Russian Federation.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Aron Zaavi

I did not write about the position of the Russian Federation.

Sorry, I respect you, but I'm Russian.

[Catfish]

Pralna! Put it down! To the British it's like a sickle in the balls.

[Pane Kohanku]

Pralna! Put it down! To the British it's like a sickle in the balls.

Uncle Kostya, our pilots will find justice for the boorish Carlsons!

[Catfish]

Shcha hamsters will instruct me about the minuses and defeat the whole NATU. You idiots.

[Pane Kohanku]

Shcha hamsters will instruct me about the minuses and defeat the whole NATU.

Yes, some comments suggest that a number of users are ready to manually melt all the adversaries by themselves, having preliminarily strangled the bad enemy crews with their own hands ... In the style of "Kung Fu Panda", only in vests.
This is sarcasm, if that. Well, you understand - sometimes you don't need enemies, if the patriots have a mess in their heads.

[Catfish]

... if the patriots have a mess in their heads.

In my opinion, this porridge has already been eaten once.

[Pane Kohanku]

In my opinion, this porridge has already been eaten once.

Yes, this porridge grows on the couch, expressed in the desire to drown everyone on the Internet.
Do you remember how Faustus bequeathed?
"Drown everything!"

So it is not necessary to heat directly! And more subtly .. asymmetrical ... And there are people ... specially trained ...

Well, and the fact that our violators got rid of is really very good! Although such "activity" is really annoying.

[Catfish]

Although such "activity" is really annoying. soldier

Of course, it is annoying, this is not the initiative of the destroyer commander after a stack of "Black Jack".

[Pane Kohanku]

Of course, it is annoying, this is not the initiative of the destroyer commander after a stack of "Black Jack".

No, this is not at all self-activity, this is a severe delirium - they mixed him into the toothpaste of the "newbie"! I recommend examining the ship's cat - still that carrier.

[Catfish]

Instead of "Petrov and Vasechkin" they launched a cat? !!! But!

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Sea Cat

Pralna! Put it down! To the British it's like a sickle in the balls.

Yes, how many adherents of the United States are here that are so minus today.

[Catfish]

It pleases, with such helpers, the States will never defeat Russia.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Sea Cat

It pleases, with such helpers, the States will never defeat Russia.

But still the children of the mare.

[Catfish]

Here you can’t go anywhere, whoever you were born with will die.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Sea Cat

Pralna! Put it down! To the British it's like a sickle in the balls.

And their satellite toads.

[fruc]

In Kamchatka, there is already a memorial stele for the "reposed" English sailors, who were killed like dogs (the events of 1854), it seemed to them that this was not enough.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: frruc

In Kamchatka, there is already a memorial stele for the "reposed" English sailors, who were killed like dogs (the events of 1854), it seemed to them that this was not enough.

And in Weymouth there is a monument to them (for what? But he's theirs.)

[fruc]

Let them erect monuments to themselves.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: frruc

Let them erect monuments to themselves.

So he's in Weymouth. (UK)

[bk316]

As I understand it, this is an attempt to emphasize that Britain does not recognize the sovereignty of the Russian Federation in Crimea.

But the counter argument from the offab-250 was convincing.

[skipper83]

Is it? The Briton came out in 20 minutes only. Most likely, both walked and walked tangentially across the border. I do not pretend to be true as a version.

[mark1]

Quote: shkiper83

The Briton came out in 20 minutes only

Not after 17, but after 6 (it also takes time to get out of the water) - read it more carefully ..

[skipper83]

I agree with the time.

[fruc]

The version is dropped. They have satellite navigation on board with high accuracy in determining their location.

[skipper83]

Excuse me, what are you doing? They certainly knew where, where and why they were going.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: shkiper83

+4
Is it? The Briton came out in 20 minutes only. Most likely, both walked and walked tangentially across the border.

And what will HER Imperial Majesty Elizabeth three say if a Russian destroyer enters UK waters? Can I ask my grandmother, or ???

[skipper83]

Excuse me, but how many destroyers do we have that can reach the UK? Let's start with this.

[Gunther]

Quote: shkiper83

Excuse me, but how many destroyers do we have that can reach the UK? Let's start with this.

Yes, not so recently, our ships passed the English Channel - the small-shavens were hysterical))
and the correct question is - how many warheads will the islet of impudent be sent to the bottom?
and how Nata eats it, with a squeal, but understanding))

[skipper83]

The interlocutor suggested sending a specific destroyer. So I was curious about which destroyer.

[carstorm 11]

Exactly. All questions were answered.

[Catfish]

AAaaaaaa ... So they violated the sea border of Ukraine! Now let Kiev demand compensation.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Sea Cat

Now let Kiev demand compensation.

Serfs from the master, they do not take bribes.

[Roma 1977]

Not. That to the point is different. In the Russian Federation and the Anglo-Saxon countries, the term "territorial waters" is understood differently. In the area of ​​Cape Fiolent, there is just such a place where NATO ships constantly tried to approach the shores of the Crimea, claiming that these were neutral waters, and the Black Sea Fleet constantly pushed them out of there, claiming that these were Russian territorial waters. Since Soviet times, the situation is like this.

[bk316]

Since Soviet times, the situation is like this.

They read something about this in our courses. But I forgot everything to my shame. Something connected with a complex coastline?

[VORON538]

That is, they, the naglo-Saxons, have been deliberately provoking since the times of the Soviet Union!

[Victor Tsenin]

Our concept is based on the UN convention, if the Saxons are different, well, rogue countries, they are)

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Roma-1977

That to the point is different. In the Russian Federation and the Anglo-Saxon countries, the term "territorial waters" is understood differently.

Everyone understands the international term inside and out (even Guinea Bissau), but only the Anglo-Saxons understand it only in their "mug".

[Kronos]

And who recognizes ?. These are not its territorial waters according to international laws.

[VORON538]

Yugoslavia and Libya, presumably, were bombed, like Iraq, according to the norms of international law, only with a Naglo-Saxon accent!

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Aron Zaavi

As I understand it, this is an attempt to emphasize that Britain does not recognize the sovereignty of the Russian Federation in Crimea.

Did Russia Recognize British sovereignty over the Malvinas Islands?

[Victor Tsenin]

Nobody prevents us from recognizing the sovereignty of the WB over the Falklands, Gibraltar, further to taste.

[Incvizitor]

And the Russian Federation on this topic has a different opinion, which was shown.

[Bad_gr]

Quote: figvam

Now let's hear in the West about Russia's aggression at sea.

How did Britain react?
"No warning shots were fired at the HMS Defender. The British Navy ship is making an innocent passage through the territorial waters of Ukraine in accordance with international law," the country's Defense Ministry said.

[Filxnumx]

How insolent these Russians are! It is forbidden to violate the peaceful democratic destroyer of their borders, they bomb the Course of Her Majesty's Ship. Unheard of! Wherever the International League of Sexual Minorities looks.

[Primipilus]

It was necessary to ram, all warnings are meaningless.

[Cananecat]

Ram with what, a smaller ship?

[Cat]

Ram with what, a smaller ship?

Ram OFAB-250

[Primipilus]

In 1988, the USSR Navy rammed the cruiser Yorktown of the SKR "Selfless". See the difference in their displacement.

[Cananecat]

Do not confuse ramming with bulk ...

[yehat2]

the tug is cheaper. The British have very few ships - they blow off a speck of dust from each.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Canecat

Ram with what, a smaller ship?

So that's what container n !!!! And what do you want to substitute your tuhas sir?

[barclay]

There is nothing to ram with. Our boats are smaller and slower. This is not the first incident. And the brits came into the taste. But apparently their scent eventually manifested itself, especially after the bombing. They need to be warned the very last time ... For this, their attaché was summoned.

[PN]

You can also launch an anti-ship missile from the Cliff without a warhead. Let them return home with a perforated point.

[yehat2]

before ww2, ballast ammunition was tested in the USSR, which simply sticks and interferes with sailing.
This was how it was necessary to work out.

[VORON538]

The best option!

[Eldorado]

Hello, garage! A rocket at such a range will not completely burn out the fuel, do you want to repeat the Monsoon of 1987, when a Termit flew into the Pacific Fleet's MRK with remnants of fuel and killed 39 people ?!

[Alexey RA]

Quote: El Dorado

Hello, garage! A rocket at such a range will not completely burn out the fuel, do you want to repeat the Monsoon of 1987, when a Termit flew into the Pacific Fleet's MRK with remnants of fuel and killed 39 people ?!

Uh-huh ... or you can remember the meeting between Sheffield and Exocet, when the RCC fuel did all the work for the warhead.

[mark1]

Quote: barclay

There is nothing to ram with.

We urgently need a new class of border ship with a pushing platform like a pusher and a huge circular at the bow

[Alexey RA]

Quote: mark1

We urgently need a new class of border ship with a pushing platform like a pusher and a huge circular at the bow

A border icebreaker is enough - the same 97P.

The main thing here is to catch up.

Quote: mark1

and a huge circular on the nose

Or with a brigade with grinders and a metal collection point in the base. On the move, the soles are cut. ©

[carstorm 11]

Bombed it a little?))))

[churka]

and it is better to drown.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Primipilus

It was necessary to ram, all warnings are meaningless.

You think correctly, but minus, guys from the State Department.

[Mountain shooter]

Britain in general beguiled the coast. The provocation is completely impudent. Aren't they afraid to drown? The use of weapons is PREVENTIVE, this seems to be the last feature ...

[SERGE ANT]

This is not the first case, “On October 13, 2020, despite a warning that it was inadmissible to enter the territorial waters of Russia, the destroyer URO D35 Dragon of the British Navy crossed the state border of the Russian Federation in the area of ​​Cape Chersonesus in the Black Sea, using the right of innocent passage When the border guards contacted the foreign ship and demanded to immediately leave the Russian territorial waters, the captain of the destroyer announced poor signal reception. As a result of joint actions with the Russian Navy and the Russian Aerospace Forces, the warship was expelled into neutral waters. " bombing.
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[Roma 1977]

Yes. "This is no longer a bell, this is a dial tone!" (from)

[isv000]

Quote: Mountain Shooter

The use of weapons is PREVENTIVE, this seems to be the last feature ...

The last feature is when a new non-resident appears at the bottom of Cape Fiolent ...

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Mountain Shooter

Britain in general beguiled the coast. The provocation is completely impudent. Aren't they afraid to drown? The use of weapons is PREVENTIVE, this seems to be the last feature ...

Let such freaks try with China.

[Incvizitor]

Little British lapdog barked no more.

[Cananecat]

I hope the crew of the impudent destroyer will go ashore in the nearest port in full force ...

[isv000]

They used to do it in Constanta ...

[tihonmarine]

Quote: isv000

They used to do it in Constanta ...

But Constanta is not Russia, but a limitrophe.

[purple]

it was necessary to do bombing with barrels of shit, and not along the course, but along the ship

[forcecom]

Lead a colleague, the fact is that in the RF Armed Forces it is not customary to deal with deflation for any reason and without, and it is not customary to store the waste in advance either, such a “ammunition” is too fast to "go out" even one barrel was, in principle, not possible, in connection with which it was necessary to hang the usual OFAB in the old fashioned way and within the framework of traditions

[purple]

Quote: Forcecom

Lead a colleague, the fact is that in the RF Armed Forces it is not customary to deal with deflation for any reason and without, and it is not customary to store the waste in advance either, such a “ammunition” is too fast to "go out" even one barrel was, in principle, not possible, in connection with which it was necessary to hang the usual OFAB in the old fashioned way and within the framework of traditions

yes in any barn

[forcecom]

colleague, show me at least one cowshed on the territory of our airbases, it seems to me that you reviewed the "peculiarities of the national hunt" last weekend

[isv000]

Quote: Forcecom

colleague, show me at least one cowshed on the territory of our air bases

The Germans are dying, they could throw a couple of empty barrels on the deck - and the wolves are fed and the sea sheep are safe, they will wash their karakul in international waters ...

[Wedmak]

X-25? Well .. so for the show will go of course. But not enough for a cruiser, so ... spoil the skin. What is more interesting is that our planes just a couple of just stitched the order through, and very low. Such a dense control, they drive right over the ears.

[VORON538]

Well, Sherkhan also had enough fire on his skin to feel, the rhinestone became a "singed cat." Small-haired people are unlikely to agree to die for the Wishlist of Ukraine, they also want to go home

[Jacket in stock]

that is how they understand freedom of navigation.
They are free to do whatever they want, and they are not ordered to do anything.

[fuel oil]

And what would happen to our ship off their coast in the same situation?

[Jacket in stock]

Iran in such a situation simply hijacked an American warship and arrested the entire crew.
And we are weak.

[BIABIA]

Capturing such a ship is problematic. Torpedoing is easier ...

[Paranoid50]

Quote: BIABIA

Capturing such a ship is problematic.

Let it be for you to break off people - there is still a couple of beers, and the boarding will take place normally.

[Pane Kohanku]

Let it be for you to break off people - there is still a couple of beers, and the boarding will take place normally.

Alexander, welcome! Yesterday I took some Scottish beer for a sample in the "taste". Either I haven't drunk beer for a long time, or ... But it's cold! We must taste it again! Just give a joke, we have discovered a lot of them in the area.

[BIABIA]

Yeah, that's it.

[Pane Kohanku]

Yeah, that's it.

EMNIP, they captured the ship of lepers?

[VORON538]

Especially if it sounds: "they are beating ours"

[isv000]

Quote: BIABIA

Capturing such a ship is problematic. Torpedoing is easier ...

You can stop the course, attach a mine and communicate your requirements ...

[Wedmak]

Well, let's take it, further actions? And I will note, 3 kilometers, this is nothing for a destroyer, both entered and exited, minutes, and very possibly the capture will already be in international waters. And this is a scandal where accusations on an industrial scale will pour out in our direction.
So it’s right that the OFAB was thrown off in front of him, it is very sobering.

[isv000]

It was necessary to drive them further, like a deer, cut off from neutral water and stop them. There would be more screeching and stench, but a violation - specifically in the waters of Russia ...

[Wedmak]

It's still a destroyer and a pretty toothy one. How can I cut it off there, with a guard? It is not worth starting the 3rd world ahead of time. For me, this reaction is more than adequate - in 20 minutes, a good set of beliefs was put in the direction of the destroyer.

[isv000]

Quote: Wedmak

How can I cut it off there, with a guard?

So he just blew past Sevastopol - he showed us our weakness - they say, the elbow is close, but you won't bite! Or is it that the otvetka for Hawaii has arrived? In any case, you are right - there is nothing to detain the foe on an emergency basis, to destroy - please, but to detain ... And also: how did it happen that his course was not predicted, where is the escort, which, by the way, could have played the role of that very interceptor ?! . For mats can be banned ........

[Wedmak]

How is it where, even by the time of the events, it is clear that the patrol was literally nearby, a few kilometers. Yes, and the SU-shka was somewhere nearby in the air, otherwise how did they put the bombs on the course already 20 minutes after the violation?

[isv000]

I'm talking about long-range escort, starting from the Bosphorus, by a normal ship capable of being detained, and not about a small patrol, and certainly not about aviation ...

[Wedmak]

On the Black Sea Fleet, there are not enough pennants of the size of a destroyer to keep track of everyone. Moreover, there will be a lot of them on the eve of the exercises. The Black Sea itself is controlled by radars, there is no need to drive the ship separately.

[isv000]

Here I am about the same: to destroy - yes, to detain - no ...

[loki565]

Iran in such a situation simply hijacked an American warship and arrested the entire crew.
And we are weak.

Iran captured a destroyer? This is something new)))

[bk316]

Iran in such a situation simply hijacked an American warship and arrested the entire crew.

Straight American destroyer captured And what is not an aircraft carrier ?

[Jacket in stock]

What sailed, he captured.

[bk316]

What sailed, he captured.

I certainly understand that you are not a sailor.
Well, at least try to imagine what the detention of a boat looks like and what the detention of a destroyer should look like ...

[isv000]

Quote: bk316

Straight American destroyer captured And what is not an aircraft carrier?

But no one here spoke about the type of ship, whose crew was on their knees. Well, they stood, well, they spoiled the air, the main thing was that there was silence later - the Americans did not stir the air so that the admitted was dispersed ...

[Roma 1977]

There the Iranians arrested a boat, and here is a real warship.

[isv000]

Quote: Jacket in stock

Iran in such a situation simply hijacked an American warship and arrested the entire crew.
And we are weak.

And not just arrested, but an American one! the crew on their knees. And after all, no one uttered a word later! ..

[Mountain shooter]

Quote: Jacket in stock

Iran in such a situation simply hijacked an American warship and arrested the entire crew.

I remember this incident. Only there was a boat. The destroyer will be bigger. And the boarding team for him is no less than a company.

[Xenofont]

Nata's exercises will begin soon in the Black Sea and it would be nice to bring more of our ships to this area, and aviation to start flying around enemy ships with the transition to supersonic. Diplomacy has not worked for a long time.

[Wedmak]

Most likely, coastal complexes have already been transferred to that area. These exercises will fall from the air, and from the water, and from the coast, and from space, the probability of provocation is already very high.

[Yuri V.A]

It seems that targeting the coastal complexes, as well as another proposal of indignant citizens to immobilize the ship with electronic warfare means, does not work. We have to designate intentions traditionally.

[Eldorado]

A couple of kilometers from Cape Fiolent on Cape Sarych "Bastions" are deployed. They have a range of 300 km ...

[Jcvai]

The minefields left over from the Second World War, which suddenly pop up under NATO ships when crossing borders and during exercises near the borders, are diplomatically neutral

[Eldorado]

The approaches to the Crimea have already been closed for the Black Sea Fleet firing. At Cape Fiolent, the borders of the state are very vaguely drawn. and terr. waters, since the times of the USSR, NATO has violated them in this area.

[Ros 56]

In my understanding - opened fire, then drowned. And it just made some noise.

[PN]

As with the samurai, if you took out a sword, then cut it, otherwise you cannot get it.

[bk316]

In my understanding - opened fire, then drowned.

Didn't you serve? Didn't you learn the charter of the guard service?

[Ros 56]

Don't confuse horseradish with a tram handle.

[bk316]

Don't confuse horseradish with a tram handle.

I mean that your opinion is only yours, and differs from the generally accepted one, including the one adopted in the fundamental documents for the military. Usually this position is characteristic of non-serving liberals.

[Ros 56]

You put the people into categories, well, well, good luck.

[bk316]

You put the people into categories, well, well, good luck.

This is how the world works.
There are men and women and I don’t need to tell this is a convention.
There are those who have served and those who have been cut off, and you don’t need to tell me that the service does not leave its mark.
There are liberals and statists; they have different attitudes towards laws.
So this is not my (subjective) but quite objective division.

[Light]

Maybe the shaves with coke went too far, they decided that they had immortal MacLeods in their crew. After all, one could miss and "accidentally" put one ofab-250 into this trough.

[isv000]

Quote: Bright

decided that they had immortal MacLeods in their crew

Mac Downs ... This is one of those who go on the Great March to China ?! They still have to chap and chap, and they have already made a noise - they break like children's toys, then they almost caught one of them, and they have not yet met the Chin people! Those will not persuade for a long time - the first warning into the side, the second - into the air on the course ...

[Nastia makarova]

Well done, that's how you need to express your concern !!

[Alexey Stepanov]

Track D36 who is interested

[Jacket in stock]

Quote: Alexey Stepanov

Track D36 who is interested

Those. it turns out he walked and walked, and wanted to spit on all our warnings.

[bk316]

Those. it turns out he walked and walked, and wanted to spit on all our warnings.

Does not work. Learn to read the map.
He walked in a straight line (green area). If he walked further straight, then the tervod would walk 10 kilometers along the border, but already in our waters, and then he would go out again.
After the warning, he came out of the waters (purple section) and walked along the border, but already outside and with a margin of a kilometer, then completely along without a reserve, and then he passed Crimea.

[Kurare]

Quote: bk316

After the warning, he came out of the waters (purple section) and walked along the border, but already outside and with a margin of a kilometer, then completely along without a reserve, and then he passed Crimea.

And still Jacket in stock (Konstantin) somewhere right. If the Briton had retired, i.e. I changed my route by about 90 degrees, it would be clear, "I understood the hint."

[bk316]

I changed my route by about 90 degrees, it would be obvious, "I understood the hint."

Have you seen a lot of tracks where vessels of this size turn 90 degrees?
This is not a man or even a car, 30-40 is just the best way to quickly retire, otherwise you will lose your move. This is even taught in the GIMS courses.
Take the map and measure it exactly 3 km away.

[Kurare]

Quote: bk316

Have you seen a lot of tracks where vessels of this size turn 90 degrees?

The point is not even how many degrees he actually turned away and what is possible, but the fact that he simply made a "rebound" and went further.

Quote: bk316

Take the map and measure it exactly 3 km away.

There was no real "fear" and understanding of the seriousness of this act. It's a pity.

[bk316]

but the fact that he just made a "bounce" and went further.

Well, it's the military they have ordered.

Walk along the border
arrange a provocation.
Return to patrol in case of danger.

Or do you really think that all these "crap" "written off to the shore" is in all seriousness?

[Kurare]

Quote: bk316

Or do you really think that all these "crap" "written off to the shore" is in all seriousness?

Of course not! I don’t even have a hat - I don’t have anything to throw in. I have no doubt about the professionalism of most British sailors when it comes to serious matters.

Quote: bk316

Walk along the border, arrange a provocation.
Return to patrol in case of danger.

Yes, that's how it is. They just completed their task. So, I would like them to fail this task, after a series of warnings. Eh, Wishlist, Wishlist ...

[bk316]

So, I would like them to fail this task, after a series of warnings.

I'll even tell you how to do it.
It is necessary to put OFAB-500 at the rate of 50 meters.
It is unlikely that anyone will die, but they will have to go for repairs.

[Kurare]

Quote: bk316

I'll even tell you how to do it.
It is necessary to put OFAB-500 at the rate of 50 meters.
It is unlikely that anyone will die, but they will have to go for repairs.

Vooot. Now we are both "on the same line". It would be much nicer to read such news.

[isv000]

Who can tell you what the Chinese would do in this case?

[bk316]

Who can tell you what the Chinese would do in this case?

Well, it was already.

“The Luyang was within 45 yards (just over 41 m), which forced the Decatur crew to maneuver to avoid a collision,” said a Navy spokesman.

[Cananecat]

It turns out that initially he wanted to change course, but changed his mind abruptly. And just cut off the edge of the terrain. And the direction of travel is Turkey or Azov?

[bk316]

And the direction of travel is Turkey or Azov?

Georgia, I think .... And so yes, I cut it off, but only very "successfully" cut it - next to the base of the Black Sea Fleet

[isv000]

Quote: bk316

"successfully" cut - near the Black Sea Fleet base

Answer for Hawaii? ..

[bk316]

Answer for Hawaii? ..

I think it's planned work. Not the first time ..... And everything in this place.

[isv000]

Quote: bk316

It seems to me planned work

Checking the reaction with the reconnaissance of the coastal complexes?

[bk316]

Something like that. Well this is right opposite the entrance to the Sevastopol bay ...
Thank God you won't be able to swim in Severomorsk ...

[isv000]

Quote: bk316

Thank God you won't be able to swim in Severomorsk ...

There, if the crossings slip through, you can throw anything from the banks - it takes more than three hours to go ...

[bk316]

Exactly....

[isv000]

Quote: bk316

Exactly....

I walked around the bay until the 90s came ...

[Aleksandr97]

Thank you!
The track clearly shows that this is a premeditated provocation!
If we do not have time to react, then upon leaving the territorial waters, any belated reaction will already be to the ship in neutral waters.

[Alex Freman]

Su-24M carried out warning bombing, placing four OFAB-250s on the ship's course.

Somehow, along the course of the ship, it is not noticeable that the British destroyer reacted particularly to the drying effort.

[1536]

And here are the berries. We are all gossiping about a future war here, but it seems that Comrade Lukashenko A.G. right, the war is already underway. The British want to implement the scenario of a century and a half ago with an attack on Crimea. For good they do not understand.

[isv000]

Quote: 1536

The British want to implement the scenario of a century and a half ago with an attack on Crimea.

Well, that's really a pipe! Crimea today is a superbly armed aircraft carrier, and with motivation, the Crimeans are all right! ..

[Eldorado]

In the West, since 2014, they have been talking about the Second Cold War - the Second Cold War.

[yfast]

They will not take Crimea with one defender, they are in vain.

[Aaron Zawi]

Quote: yfast

They will not take Crimea with one defender, they are in vain.

This is not a military but a political demonstration.

[Roman070280]

And they just wanted to take it ..))

[Ratmir_Ryazan]

They did not come to take Crimea, yet, but to show that they do not recognize Russia's sovereignty over it.

[John22]

Yes, we are loyal again. The Brit and Yankees only understand power.

[rocket757]

Russian patrol ship opened warning fire on British destroyer D36 Defender

The brazen, from the islands, leaped zealous ...
Go understand, what sirs, dried up, for a long time, "tail" stood upright?

[cniza]

They got crazy in earnest ...

[rocket757]

Well, Boris, in front of his young wife, probably jumps like a cockerel ... although, as he was to, he remained so.

[cniza]

I feel it will rock ...

[rocket757]

He's not the first, he is not the last, whose horns were broken off ... he is just NEXT.

[cniza]

The most vile dirty tricks always came from them, and then they managed to crawl away ...

[rocket757]

Now crawl away, especially, there is no one ...

[cniza]

The British press openly write that they deliberately violated the border, that they say we are poking the bear with a stick and we will continue it ...

[rocket757]

Everyone goes crazy in their own way and forever ... there, on the islands, it happened a long time ago and forever.

[cniza]

It's hard to deal with issues with inadequate ...

[rocket757]

So he stayed away from them!
And sho, do we need something from those islands? I doubt it.

[cniza]

We need one thing for them to shut up and go about their business ...

[Roman070280]

D36 Defende together with the air defense frigate F805 Evertsen of the Royal Netherlands Navy entered the Black Sea on 14 June to "ensure free navigation".

It turned out symbolically ..))

[Cotton Colorado]

Quote: Forcecom

Lead a colleague, the fact is that in the RF Armed Forces it is not customary to deal with deflation for any reason and without, and it is not customary to store the waste in advance either, such a “ammunition” is too fast to “go out” so it takes 20 minutes to dial even one barrel was, in principle, not possible,

The D36 Defender team of the Royal Navy of Great Britain with your statement about impossibility fundamentally disagrees! -)

[Jacket in stock]

Quote: Wadded Colorado

The D36 Defender team of the Royal Navy of Great Britain with your statement about impossibility fundamentally disagrees!

Judging by the track, the team didn't even notice our warnings.
Lost and went their own way, as they went.

[Paranoid50]

Quote: Jacket in stock

Lost and went their own way

Oh again ...

[Nastia makarova]

there you can see that they turned away !!! how did you not notice ??? the whole world is already yelling in the media

[Aleksandr97]

Impunity encourages permissiveness!
As long as incidents do not incur costs for them, they will continue.
Yes, there must be a political WILL, after warning shots to use weapons at the ship! Until a complete stop and internment. Then the court - Siberia!

[Vadim237]

Better to grab - to throw a special net on the screws and immobilize.

[Ratmir_Ryazan]

They roar the determination of Russia.

Next time you will need to shoot at the engine.

[rocket757]

By the way, ZHPS (GPS) has been mowing in the morning today ... I need to try how GLONASS works ... I'll go, I'll try, on different navigators at the same time.

[cniza]

What has already begun?

[rocket757]

Exactly, exactly, CHECKED!
ZHPS mows, he does not see half of the satellites! Glonas is working, I can see the Chinese ... in general, whoever has only ZHPS, he is in particular terrible problems.

[cniza]

It's time for the shelters to cook, but seriously, the Brits were playing with fire ..

[rocket757]

Well, no one else wants ... but their "tail" got up like a carrot, well, they really wanted ...

[cniza]

Really on their own, then they started something ...

[rocket757]

They can do nothing but a petty dirty trick ... for a long time already the caliber of a small dirty trick of steel, nothing more.

[cniza]

Big Boss may not understand their actions ...

[rocket757]

He's just not up to any small ... he wrote out a directive, let them do it as ordered!

[cniza]

It looks like he begins to rush between internal problems and misses external ...

[rocket757]

Those problems that affect the internal situation here and now, they see and try to neutralize, if possible, but ... long-term prospects, planning actions / measures against modern threats / problems, it is NOT ABOUT THEM!
What was developed, planned earlier works ... i.e. the office will write, shift papers, but NEXT WHAT ??? This is not an idle question and, judging by their twitching, they have NO answers!

[cniza]

That's just the point, the question is what will happen? remains unanswered ...

[rocket757]

I would say that these are their problems, but ... those guys strive to dump their problems on everyone else ... still those radishes!

[cniza]

Uh-huh, everyone will be to blame except them ...

[Cucumbers]

And who recognized Crimea as Russian? A couple of African countries and that's it. Therefore, they behave this way. Ukraine is their ally. This ship was English, couldn’t it be seen where it was going. It was necessary to put up a barrier. What would he have flooded?

[Jacket in stock]

Quote: Cucumbers

It was necessary to put up a barrier. What would he have flooded?

Well, they put out the border guards, so what?
He does not recognize us and wanted to spit.

[Cucumbers]

So they did the right thing, that they shot and threw

[mmaxx]

So to recognize or not to recognize in reality is a matter of diplomacy. And if I also had to leave after this, then at least the warriors, but recognized. Otherwise it was necessary to fight. To wash away from the "pirates" is not in the spirit of the "mistress of the seas."

[alexey2073]

And why there, under this ship of "partners" there was no "echo of war" in the form of a naval mine and, preferably, of German production, during the Second World War? All the same, they will yell about the evil Russians. And here it will still be possible to show terrible footage of the explosion of an English vessel ........
PS Do not swear too much. It was a hard day, I didn't get enough sleep

[jncnfdybr]

And if it were the other way around? Our destroyer entered the waters of England. That was? I think it was necessary to detain the violator. )

[Tsoy]

And if it were the other way around? Our destroyer entered the waters of England. That was? I think it was necessary to detain the violator. )

Do we have a lot of destroyers?

[jncnfdybr]

One is enough for you.)

[alexey2073]

We have 4-BF, 1-SF, 1-Pacific Fleet. It seems so on the official, but in fact .... the state of these ships is small, small, sad.

[Ruslan Sulima]

Well done! KChF. new generation, I'm proud of you!

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

on the cruise, one OFAB was enough, the other three on the target

[Tagan]

Quote: Aaron Zawi

As I understand it, this is an attempt to emphasize that Britain does not recognize the sovereignty of the Russian Federation in Crimea.

Someone emphasizes, and someone crosses out. I mean, the shaves will get tired of "emphasizing" much faster this way.

[Vladimir61]

It was necessary to make a demonstrative simulation of an attack on an aircraft carrier group!

[mmaxx]

If, after using the weapon, the Angles were washed away, then that's good. So they understood the hint.
And to drown and everything else - no need to get excited. If the gopnik wanted to gopan you, and it didn't work out, then he was afraid.

[Falcon5555]

In fact, the international maritime convention recognizes the "right of innocent passage" of any, even warship, ships through territorial waters, although it recognizes the sovereignty of the state over territorial waters. There are many conditions in it, what is "innocent" and what is "passage", but just a passage without stops in a straight line, all the more it is clear from where and where - this is it. Different countries introduce different restrictions on this right for foreign warships by their domestic legislation, for example, they require advance notification, but this is not in accordance with the convention.

[faiver]

is that why they were dropping battle bombs? Plastic 50-liter barrels with the contents of latrines, and on the barrels also write "newbie", and dump immediately on the deck

[KreAtiF]

Most likely, the British did not agree with the United States on the definition of a global threat, for them it is still Russia, and for amers now there is more of China, respectively, and a provocation to pay attention.

[cniza]

I think it was a test - how far can we go ...

[yfast]

Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan

They did not come to take Crimea, yet, but to show that they do not recognize Russia's sovereignty over it.

Quite, quite, but we can also say that since we violated, we went to seize, excuses do not roll.

[spectr]

The main thing is that no "surprise" is thrown off in our coastal waters.

[cniza]

Probably everyone will check ...

[Maalkavianin]

It was necessary to heat and come what may.

[cniza]

The destroyer entered Russian waters at 11:52, did not respond to demands, ignored the warning about the use of weapons. Thereafter, at 12:06 and 12:08 the border patrol fired warning shots at the British course. And to make it even clearer, nine minutes later, the Russian front-line bomber Su-24M carried out a warning bombing, putting four OFAB-250s on the ship's course.

This is a very serious provocation, but we got along very gently ...

[slipped]

Quote: cniza

This is a very serious provocation, but we got along very gently ...

Well, he would have gone further detained, having previously deprived him of his course. I can imagine how the English sailors got shit when they saw bomb explosions in front of their noses. We are waiting for the video on the Internet.

[TatarinSSSR]

there will be no video. Why is a question for the MO. Someone is lying and very strong. But why is not clear.

[slipped]

Quote: TatarinSSSR

there will be no video.

what is this?



and the radio is all in other videos

[TatarinSSSR]

and what? Where is there bombing or shooting ?! They fly, follow. And NOTHING more in this video.

[slipped]

Quote: TatarinSSSR

and what? Where is there bombing or shooting ?! They fly, follow. And NOTHING more in this video.

You said earlier that there will be no video. Here's a video from the drone. The destroyer is being driven out of the terrain. The shooting was warning. Do you need a video of flying bombs? There were no cameras on them Next time they will shoot to kill.

[TatarinSSSR]

Namely, I was talking about the video with shooting and bombing. After all, the British declared to the whole world that the Russians were lying and there was nothing, no one fired or dropped bombs. If the video-brits would have dipped their faces into him. And so ... Bullshit turns out.

[slipped]

Quote: TatarinSSSR

The video-brits would have dipped their faces into him. And so ... Bullshit turns out.

Does not work. They exposed themselves by inflating bubbles with snot.

[AlexeyEg]

Why not just arrange a response ... that's all.

[Puper driver]

Still, it would not hurt to give a queue. Scum Anglo-Saxons respect only strength. And so we will wait for the next provocation.

[Fitter]

Quote: For example

and (Andropov) then completely merged the information front by adopting ame

Oh, that's enough. You are like our whores. Manipulate the way you need it. not "only I can draw conclusions ", but" only me I can draw conclusions "said your opponent. You are acting like an Englishman. ugh, abomination :(

[Esaul]

It was necessary to "make a mistake" and throw one bomb on the hull.

[Cotton Colorado]

Quote: Jacket in stock

Quote: Wadded Colorado

The D36 Defender team of the Royal Navy of Great Britain with your statement about impossibility fundamentally disagrees!

Judging by the track, the team didn't even notice our warnings.
Lost and went their own way, as they went.

Only fast fast -)
And why are you so sure that this track is related to the defender?

[Vladimir Ivanov_6]

Why are there so many comments. The news is about nothing. Nobody will go to war with England, tk. most of our officials have real estate there and their families live there.

[DPN]

Well done, one normal conclusion! Citizens with dual citizenship will not go against their second homeland.

[Paranoid50]

Quote: Alexander97

Until a complete stop and internment. Then the court - Siberia!

What a funny youthful maximalism. Although, if 97 is the year of birth, then the norm.

[Tagan]

Quote: Aaron Zawi

Quote: yfast

They will not take Crimea with one defender, they are in vain.

This is not a military but a political demonstration.

Provocation. Brita can't help but shit - meanness is in the blood

[agoran]

Tex, gentlemen. Maybe a little off topic, but I'll tell you.
My classmate graduated from the VMU, I have an aviation one. Met by chance in Tallinn, where to go? Well, of course, we went to Gloria (a pub), sat and talked.
He held the position of navigator, but was not assigned to the ship, but went to sea by order. (I could be wrong, but not the point).
So, according to him, when, according to the teachings, you were practicing the FKP on the ship, it was really scary.
I don’t know how OFAB-250s explode on the water, but at the Suur-Pakri training ground they are very impressive.
So, if the bombs were placed on the Angles on the course, there is a very big question, but whether they will be able to see foggy Albion.

[DPN]

If he went on his course for another 20 minutes, then he did not notice these FAB.

[Barberry25]

re-read the news .. and then apparently you either read or do not know how to count

[DPN]

You don’t know how to think, noodle lover.

[Barberry25]

Well, you know better about the noodles, you are an expert in it, but you obviously do not know how to read ... apparently studied poorly at school, it happens like this .. you brace yourself

[Marachuh]

And it was necessary not to bomb, but to throw mines around and let the brits squirm, well, or teleport home

[il-z]

It looks like we have our own European Championship))

[TatarinSSSR]

One thing I can't understand - well, the 21st century, well, every 12 year old pimple has a phone with a camera. Why doesn't the Russian military have this gadget? And if there is, what prevents you from posting a video of warning fire and bombing in the direction of the violator's destroyer? Then all the questions will disappear by themselves, such as the statement of small-shavens from the fact that no one fired warningly at them and did not throw bombs along the course! Russia is constantly losing the information war, constantly in a justified position. This only further spoils the authority of the authorities in the eyes of patriotic citizens.

[Barberry25]

there will be a team-post

[TatarinSSSR]

FSB posted. From 630 they shoot upwards, at a great distance, and something doesn't look like it's on course. Everything.

[Barberry25]

with a canopy they beat and beat on the course, and then they dropped several bombs, after which they did not go for a walk, but left)

[TatarinSSSR]

It is clear that it is a canopy. But there was a distance of at least 3 km, and Defender's course was to the right, and they fired from 630 to its port side for half a kilometer. On shaved, they really could not have noticed such a firing, mistaking it for light signals. But our bombing video has not yet been published - so whether there was one is still a question. Something like a feeling that someone bravely reported one thing, another one up the chain - embellished, the third one did not understand something, and at the top they already ran to tell the journalists. And in the end, there was such a confusion - some did not see anything, mistaking it for teachings, others blurted out too much, but it's too late to turn on the back one.

[Barberry25]

ours had previously notified that they would shoot, so all the excuses about "light signals" are an attempt to make a smart face with bad maps. And there are words of a British journalist that there were shooting and bombing. So the British have no choice but to singing about “we’re right, we didn’t see anything” .. and at first they said that there was nothing, and then “that Russia needs to be punished.” and now ours will stretch the pleasure ..

[Konnick]

Since ours were not in a hurry with the video, then there is no sense in hurrying with the bombing ... the Britons screwed up and now ours will stretch the pleasure ..

There are always tourists at Cape Fiolent. So far, no one has shared on social networks about the sounds of the explosion of 4 bombs.

They sit and watch, the places are very beautiful. He himself spent a day at Cape Fiolent, but 2 years ago. Maybe at such a distance, and even in the water ...

[Barberry25]

from 19 km, someone realized that something had thumped - these were bombs) yeah, shchaz

[DPN]

It was necessary to make a hole so that he could take home on a TUG, like ours from Syria. But in general, there is no one to make holes: everything that is overwhelmingly acquired over the hillock is to be found. In the USSR, at least they went to TARAN.

[Barberry25]

and when our ships were making holes in Syria? what is already in tow?

[DPN]

The engines broke down on them, and therefore returned in tow.

[Barberry25]

and who was in tow?

[DPN]

you studied at school, so you learn it as two fingers piss. TV "Star, look sometimes if you are sitting here."

[Barberry25]

those. blurted out himself not knowing that .. everything is clear with you. another super-mega expert topvar

[babylon]

It was necessary to blockade this destroyer and arrest the entire crew for violating the state border, condemn them to Kolyma.
I am sure that after this no one will dare to repeat this “feat”

[nod739]

The Turks shot down our plane as soon as it approached the border, and even if it flew a couple of kilometers, as they said...
It was necessary to drown the fabs after warning shots

[Mikle2000]

The only question is how much he would have melted before his death.

[Herman 4223]

I'll express my opinion. I think it is wrong to expel the ship. After violating the border, either detain him with the entire crew or drown him in case of resistance.
No one will say a word if the ship sinks to the bottom in our waters.

[Vladimir Vladimirovich Vorontsov]

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Do not swim for the buoys! ...
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[pylon101]

For NATO countries, the Republic of Crimea is part of Ukraine. To us, their statement about passage through the territorial waters of Ukraine seems absurd. For them - no.
It is necessary to develop methods for expulsion from the “territorial waters of Ukraine.” This, I believe, has already been done.
But we hardly need to start a world war under these conditions.

[Professor]

So much ado about nothing. It turns out there was no violation and no warning fire. Reputation, la...

[aszzz888]

Professor (Sokolov Oleg)
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So much ado about nothing. It turns out there was no violation and no warning fire. Reputation, la...

This is for you and the small-shaven people "it turns out"

[zwlad]

Well done border guards and aviation!

[skipper83]

And if, as an option, have a couple of seiners on hand, in each region. Or ask sympathetic fishermen for help. So that they, according to the intruder's course, begin in advance to sweep out nets with a flooding depth at the level of the steering group propellers with large and clearly visible buoys, so that the intruder is forced to go around them to exit the waterways. There is very little joy in wrapping nets around a propeller and being left without a move within sight of a foreign shore. We know about a potential violation in advance; we could try to organize it.

[svoit]

Quote: kventinasd

For several years, less than 30%

This year prices have risen, so the percentage will also rise

[Barberry25]

In general, it’s funny to read how the eternally dissatisfied “topvar experts” are tearing their butts out of the effort to prove that the British are great and what kind of Russian sailors are they who didn’t drown the British.... hmm.. only punitive medicine will help here