The crisis of people's confidence in the authorities

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Compulsory vaccination is spreading in Russia, segregation of the population has begun - if you do not get vaccinated, you will be fired, restricted in movement around the country, in visiting public, entertainment and other institutions, in studies. In fact, now the government is being tested for people's trust and is failing this test - about 80% of the population does not trust. At the moment, more than 13% have been vaccinated (June 17.06.2021, XNUMX). And many of them - out of necessity and under pressure (military, state employees).

Debt crisis


At the heart of the current global turmoil is the crisis of capitalism, which led to the crisis of the Western world, the white race (its extinction, spiritual, intellectual and physical degradation) and all of humanity. The main contradiction of capitalism is the debt crisis caused by the interest rate. If you give out loans at a rate higher than the level of profitability of production, you inevitably get a debt crisis. And the last decades have not only provided loans, but have inflated a lot of financial, stock, speculative, in their essence, "bubbles". Plus they scattered money to save their economies, banks and financial institutions.



Previously, this problem was solved with the help of a big war. The crisis of capitalism triggered two world wars. During them, part of the contradictions were burned, the infrastructure was destroyed and updated, Germany, Austria-Hungary (twice), Turkey, Japan and Russia (once each) were robbed. They built a new world order (the Yalta-Potsdam system), the remnants of which still exist. The crisis of capitalism, which was ripening in the 70s and 80s, was temporarily frozen with the help of the collapse and robbery of Russia-USSR. In essence, the Cold War was World War III. But already of a new type - with local wars in the third world, secret operations of special services, confrontation of will, ideas, economies, an arms race, in science and technology, etc. Gorbachev in Geneva and Malta on behalf of the "fifth column", which was sold for Western "cookies" (power and property), surrendered the Soviet civilization and the people.

The total robbery of the USSR and the countries of the social bloc lasted only a few years. Already at the end of the 90s, the global world found itself in front of a “broken trough”. The problem was pushed aside by partial solutions - the demonstrative defeat of Yugoslavia, new financial "bubbles", the pumping up of the military-industrial complex, a surrogate for world war in the form of "international terrorism." Then they staged a rout and plunder of a number of countries, in particular, Iraq. "Arab Spring", the destruction of the Libyan Jamahiriya and the robbery of its resources. Another “world enemy” has been created - the Black Caliphate. The Middle East front of the fourth world war opens. Iraq and Syria have been turned into battlegrounds.

Operation "virus"


But this is not enough. Therefore, the operation "virus" is run in at the same time. Various post-apocalyptic pictures - "Resident Evil", "The Walking Dead" and many others, are actively being introduced into the minds of people. They are testing various epidemics - mad cow disease, swine and bird flu, etc. Obama called Ebola in 2014 a global threat in general. It turned out to be a false start. However, the run-in was carried out, pharmaceutical corporations earned money. Operation Virus (Pandemic) was launched in 2020. Fear and terror have spread all over the planet. The virus outbreak was turned into a surrogate for world war. The results are the same - high mortality from the collapse of health care, bans, lockdowns, stress, lower incomes, poverty, falling immunity, etc. The fall of the world's leading economies, the ruin of the middle class.

The "virus" is undermining nation-states, which are now acting under the dictation of the UN, WHO and IMF. Attempts to resist, like Sweden and Belarus, were suppressed, called madness. Entire sectors of the economy have been destroyed. The middle class is being destroyed everywhere. At the same time, the rich and super-rich become even richer, and the poor - poorer. Elements of segregation are introduced: division into "clean" (vaccinated and ready to do it endlessly) and "unclean".

Thus, the "pandemic" is primarily an information weapon... The new virus, which for humanity is no worse than HIV, cancer, drugs, alcohol, bad food, the widespread collapse of medicine (they claim many more lives per year), has been turned into a total threat like the T-virus from "Resident Evil". With the help of whipping up hysteria, horror and terror of the authorities, the population of the planet will be driven into the "brave new world." A new slave-owning civilization, where there will be only masters and slaves.

Along the way, they solve the problem of reducing the "excess" livestock of people. "Supermortality" is everywhere caused by the collapse of the health care system, mass physical culture, a sharp drop in the quality of food, a sharp drop in the immunity of people who are intimidated and intimidated from morning to evening. The fact that people were hooked on drugs that they eat by handfuls, instead of prevention, the introduction of healthy lifestyle standards, mass physical education, the development of sports in kindergartens, schools and universities (sports are left to professionals, the rest is self-destruction).

Trust of the people


Unfortunately, the Russian authorities are acting on the orders of the WHO, the UN and the IMF. The government, having completely failed the vaccination campaign (by mid-July, promised 60% of the vaccinated), decided to shift the responsibility to the regions and employers. On the citizens themselves. Like, if you don't want to be nice, it will be different. We will fire, we will not let you go to the cinema, theater, shopping center, educational institution. At the same time, the supreme power washes its hands, not wanting to pass laws on compulsory vaccination, since this is a very unpopular measure (like raising the retirement age). Responsibility is pushed onto the regions and business. All this is happening amid a sharp drop in living standards and a price revolution (The price revolution and the threat of a new Russian turmoil).

Why don't people want to be vaccinated?

First, the mass consciousness of the people does not see a big threat in the new virus, it perceives it as a new flu.

Secondly, for thirty years now, the healthcare system has been “reformed”, “optimized” (in fact, broken down and reduced) and transferred to a commercial track. That is, there is no confidence in the vaccine. There is no trust in new commercial medicine. For example, seasonal flu shots are a good way to spend money. What flu virus is coming, try to guess.

Third, and most importantly, trust in the authorities. In the USSR, everyone did the prescribed vaccinations without a doubt. If it is necessary, then it is necessary. The elderly Brezhnev could be laughed at, told jokes, but the power in the person of the party was respected. In modern China, the people are disciplined. People trust the Communist Party and Xi Jinping. Trust is tight in Russia. 80% do not trust! People are constantly deceived - they stole the Soviet country, stole deposits, stole people's property. The ruble has collapsed many times. On the advice of the IMF, they carried out a pension reform and robbed people again.

Since 2014, the people are getting poorer every year. The Crimean victory has already been forgotten, covered by everyday difficulties. Where are the great tasks and their implementation in Russia? Poverty has been completely overcome in China, the task has been set to achieve a moderately prosperous society by 2035, which will obviously be completed earlier. China has literally become the second superpower before our very eyes. There is emptiness in the Russian Federation! Only the constant "tightening of the nuts", which further worsens the life of ordinary people, finishes off medium and small businesses.

Thus, the situation with the coronavirus revealed a deep crisis of people's confidence in the authorities.

There is no need for any polls, presidential elections, in the State Duma, it is quite enough to raise the question of preserving one's own health. In fact, this is sabotage, passive resistance, the people - not trusting the authorities, are ready to risk their health.

It is obvious that the authorities will put pressure on again, find ways to force everyone to be vaccinated.

But what next?

With a general lack of confidence in the authorities, the arrival of the "black swan" is inevitable. The Romanov empire and the USSR seemed very strong, eternal, but collapsed instantly. It is necessary to immediately abandon the line that goes from the WHO, UN, IMF and the United States. Bring back the people's trust. Nationalize the elite and its capital. Nationalize the Central Bank. Cancel pension reform. Carry out a new industrialization. To raise the welfare of the people, to show concern for them.

To restore at the basic (Soviet) level school - higher, vocational and secondary, health care, science, a system of mass physical, intellectual and creative development. Suppress destructive principles in culture, art and TV. A powerful demographic program to save the Russian superethnos, with an emphasis on large families (3-4 and more).

In foreign policy - a full-fledged alliance with China, a course towards the reunification of the Russian lands and the Russian people.
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  1. +27
    21 June 2021 04: 10
    But everything was so tempting in the 80s ... Change ... change! So we got it !!!! Sorry not to go back ...
    1. +61
      21 June 2021 04: 23
      The crisis of people's confidence in the authorities
      and the people do not need to lie, then there will be trust, and so, the "guarantor" for twenty years with his government, has elevated lies to the rank of art.
      1. +24
        21 June 2021 05: 05
        From the second paragraph (well, there is about the crisis of capitalism, the white race and the rest blah blah blah) I understood who the author is and did not read further.
        I agree with the author in the title. Moreover, I can add that the government is stupidly losing on "other fronts" too, but makes every effort to save face in case of a bad game.
        How long will this skill be enough?
        1. +41
          21 June 2021 07: 33
          on the "other fronts" the government stupidly loses,
          Well, the authorities have only two allies Kiselev and Zolotov.
          1. +31
            21 June 2021 09: 35
            ... If you give out loans at a rate higher than the profitability level of production, you inevitably get a debt crisis.

            You will convey this banal economic thought to the king. And then the only thing that he understood for himself was how profitable it is to drop the ruble.

            And even this to the disgruntled people he explained on his fingers how many cheap rubles a strong dollar could buy ... they don't understand the "brilliant" idea of ​​the great economist! And he has been successfully engaged in this wonderful business (devaluation of wood) for all twenty years of his stupid reign, is engaged and will continue to do so!
            1. +28
              21 June 2021 09: 52
              Justifying the tsar, our uryakalka like to ask a moronic question, they say, suggest what can be done in such a desperate situation (in that dead end where the authorities drove us)? So write it down on your subcortex and hack it on your nose:

              ... It is necessary to immediately abandon the line that goes from the WHO, the UN, the IMF and the United States. Bring back the people's trust. Nationalize the elite and its capital. Nationalize the Central Bank. Cancel pension reform. Carry out a new industrialization. To raise the welfare of the people, to show concern for them.
              1. 0
                21 June 2021 13: 04
                I almost bleed from my eyes when I read it. Are you seriously trying as a flag to raise Samson's nonsense for all the good versus all the bad? Have any of you quasi-comunity ever thought about the question of how to do this? Or is an owl a strategist, and most importantly getting involved in a fight? As a result, you will become stupid fodder for world capital and never build any communism.
                1. +13
                  21 June 2021 14: 27
                  Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
                  Almost bleeding from my eyes when I read it.

                  This is normal. Do not worry. This is how it should be with the confused! The main thing is to wait for the evening. Evening mud-ring and Kisel-TV will return your stability.

                  Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
                  Have any of you a quasi-commuter at least once thought about the question how to do it?

                  Everything was in our history already. Our ancestors (the communists hated by the tsar and you) proved the reality of socialist transformations. You don't even need to invent anything.
                  1. -20
                    21 June 2021 15: 29
                    "Everything has already happened in our history. Our ancestors (the communists hated by the tsar and you) have proved the reality of socialist transformations." And all these socialist transformations, like communism, failed with a deafening crash in the 80s and 90s.
                    1. +17
                      21 June 2021 15: 43
                      Quote: Vadim237
                      And all these socialist transformations, like communism, failed with a deafening crash in the 80s and 90s.

                      The communists won the Second World War and made the USSR (Russia) a superpower. But the treachery of the top could not stand it.

                      By the way, Russia took over the most negative sides and excesses of the USSR. All the same period of stagnation, as in the 80s under the irreplaceable Brezhnev. And the same unchangeable Politburo (Duma and government). Lack of democratic freedoms. But even there the redistribution of the final product of labor was fair, but now:

                      Russia has set a record level of inequality in wealth. According to the data reflected in the Global Wealth 2021 World Wealth Report. And if you believe this information, it turns out that The 500 wealthy have more financially than all other Russians combined.
                    2. +22
                      21 June 2021 16: 34
                      Communism as such could not fail. We stupidly did not grow up to him. But with socialism it really turned out badly. Instead of a movement towards communism, it turned out to be a rollback to Dishchensky, worthless capitalism.
                    3. +15
                      22 June 2021 09: 42
                      Quote: Vadim237
                      "Everything was in our history already. Our ancestors (the communists hated by the tsar and you)

                      Never in the history of the country has there been such an extinction of citizens as under capitalism .. from the 90s to the present day, the country's population is rapidly declining ..
                  2. -8
                    21 June 2021 16: 28
                    Quote: Stas157
                    This is normal. Do not worry. This is how it should be with the confused!

                    So, unlike you, I'm not confused.
                    Quote: Stas157
                    You don't even need to invent anything.

                    I look at the sad outcome of a quasi-commuter that teaches nothing. They are still stupidly talking slogans in their blind dogmatism. Their brain stubbornly refuses to work.
                    1. +9
                      21 June 2021 18: 45
                      Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
                      So I'm unlike you not confusing.

                      Have you heard. We know! They always drown exclusively for the king and EdRo, and as soon as it comes to demand, so immediately into the bushes. Say, I'm not for him, I'm here on my own ... So shy!)))
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                      2. +2
                        21 June 2021 22: 23
                        Seneca wrote in his "Letters to a Friend" that when the opponent does not have the right words, that is, nothing shines in his brain, he begins to insult the opponent. Here your opponent is feeble-minded, and you are not even trying ... You are right, telling him something suitable is not in the shard.
              2. 0
                22 June 2021 08: 03
                And you can ask one simple question, have we already captured the Earth and the whole world is feeding us? Because listening to your nonsense about some "new industrialization" gives the impression that Russia does not produce anything, and the world supplies us with all these new cars and smartphones, which are replaced once a year, just like that, within the framework of, obviously, tribute.

                As for the pension reform, while talking about industrialization, you simultaneously have the idea that pensions are paid out of thin air, and mate. benefits to retirees who buy the same out of thin air for this pension. You want to receive a pension, but at the same time you do not want to have children who will work when you retire, because it is supposedly expensive. Instead, you scream about demographics and get offended when you are given examples of countries like Nigeria or Afghanistan where fertility is more than okay.

                You will decide what you want, but for now you, Russian citizens, remind children who can only stomp their feet.
                1. +4
                  23 June 2021 10: 24
                  Quote: EvilLion
                  have we already taken over the Earth and the whole world is feeding us?

                  The world has nothing to do with it. But the king and his friends are fed by our disadvantaged people.

                  Quote: EvilLion
                  all these new cars and smartphones replaced once a year the world supplies us just like that

                  No, not just like that. For them, people lay out their hard-earned labor rubles, and often on credit on enslaving terms. Plus, at prices more expensive than abroad. Did you think otherwise?

                  Quote: EvilLion
                  smartphones changeable once a year

                  Storyteller! Who is it that changes smartphones once a year, provided that they are really decent (and not lumpy cheap stuff)? The iPhone, for example, is used on average for 4-5 years according to statistics.

                  Here you are in everything! Here he added, there he lied ... and the drawn picture of the flawed world of the confused man is ready for use.
              3. +1
                22 June 2021 08: 47
                You, most importantly, do not forget to clarify with whose money we will carry out industrialization. Stalin at one time cranked it at the expense of the United States and with the massive involvement of foreign specialists, not to mention the victims accompanying this process. Well, before restoring people's trust by nationalizing everything that can be "taken and divided", take a look at North Korea. Maybe this will push you home-grown revolutionaries on some thoughts.
                1. 0
                  27 June 2021 14: 47
                  Journalist, yellow paper, why are you cheating? "at the expense of the USA"? !! Industrialization was carried out at the expense of the Russian people. Foreign experts are good at this, and in the conditions of the economic crisis. They could do without foreigners, but there was little time left - the war was already on the nose. The United States does nothing without its interest.
                  1. 0
                    21 July 2021 14: 46
                    In the conditions that developed, they could not live without foreigners. There was no personnel, no money, no technology - "thanks" to Nikolasha, revolution and civil war. Consider the country for 20 years (or even more). But the point is not in this, but in the fact that miracles do not happen, and all sorts of global changes require resources, and the most different ones.
              4. -2
                22 June 2021 14: 25
                Stas, let's go. Figley there, we will scatter everything in the trash, so that the grandchildren do not clean it up. Delov something.
                1. +1
                  23 June 2021 09: 54
                  Quote: ermak124.0
                  Stas, well let's go.

                  So you and this hour are jumping to the tune of Kisel-TV and Nightingale Trills! Fire me. I will not ride with you.
              5. -1
                23 June 2021 11: 32
                Quote: Stas157
                Justifying the tsar, our uryakalka like to ask a moronic question, they say, suggest what can be done in such a desperate situation (in that dead end where the authorities drove us)? So write it down on your subcortex and hack it on your nose:

                ... It is necessary to immediately abandon the line that goes from the WHO, the UN, the IMF and the United States. Bring back the people's trust. Nationalize the elite and its capital. Nationalize the Central Bank. Cancel pension reform. Carry out a new industrialization. To raise the welfare of the people, to show concern for them.

                1) any nationalization of oligarchs gives money - just once! More will not be taken from them.
                2) by taking money away from capital, we automatically get 1918. "War Communism" ... Literal ....
                As then, you will have to trade exclusively for gold and prepayment.
                3) new industrialization - as then - is possible. But there is a but: a) you will have to drive people to the construction sites of the century by force - money for large salaries will not be stupid because of clause 2,
                b) the confidence of the people from this will fall even more
                3) it is impossible to raise the welfare of the people without clause 2. And it will drag on for several years. As a result, we will receive protest rallies from young people with the slogan "Here and now - and not socialism sometime there in the bright future !!!"
                1. +5
                  23 June 2021 12: 15
                  Quote: your1970
                  any nationalization of oligarchs gives money - in total once!

                  Like this? Oil industry, mining of gold, diamonds ... and any industry (not only subsoil), any plant works and brings moneyconstantly... While working. Now the truth is not to the people, on whose shoulders the entire industry was built, but to the oligarchs.

                  Quote: your1970
                  taking money away from capital

                  Dreaming! If enterprises can still be nationalized by parasites, then it will not work with money. All of them have long been brought to the West.

                  Russia is a very unattractive country in terms of investments. Since money does not flow to Russia, but flows out of it. And not much has flowed out - not less than 3-4 trillion dollars. Crazy money! The nationalization of large raw material and industrial enterprises would nullify this flow of wealth to the West.
                  1. -3
                    23 June 2021 13: 28
                    Quote: Stas157
                    Oil industry, mining of gold, diamonds ... and any industry (not only subsoil), any plant works and brings money all the time. While working
                    already passed this in 1918 ...
                    There is a nuance - the buyer of your product says "We concluded an agreement with Potanin - And not with the Norilsk Nickel Workers' Council. So first you give us a product - And only then, someday, we will give you money for it ... Maybe .."
                    And then the bank says to you "Guys - it's all great, but Potanin owes us 10 lard. Idea of ​​money?"
                    After that, you stop paying your wages - money is tyutu, and the workers go to the rally saying "The Tsar was overthrown, the oligarchs were driven out - where is the salary?"
                    And so in the entire industry - because banks have not received loans back - they also begin to feel sad and shrink ...
                    As happened in 1918 after nationalization.
                    However, in 1991-1993 it worked exactly the same - the owner was gone, and economic ties were severed.

                    Regarding investors - Who will invest in a country where they can take everything away (without payments !!!)? You will lend money to your neighbor if he has a gun and he can say at any moment - "what money? You stole it from me !!!!!!"

                    Z. Y. China - although it is a communist one - has never raised the issue of free nationalization. That is why investors go there.
                    And for 30 years we have been discussing whether to take it away or not, and actively ...
                    1. -1
                      23 June 2021 19: 21
                      Quote: your1970
                      China - even though it is a communist one - has never raised the issue of free nationalization. That is why investors go there.

                      Do not think about China, especially since the Americans are now planning to cut 10 trillion in the form of lawsuits from them for the coronavirus, and began with a new hysteria about its origin. Then we'll see what the Chinese will do in this situation with regard to the assets of the West.
                      1. -1
                        23 June 2021 19: 29
                        Quote: ccsr
                        Quote: your1970
                        China - even though it is a communist one - has never raised the issue of free nationalization. That is why investors go there.

                        Do not think about China, especially since the Americans are now planning to cut 10 trillion in the form of lawsuits from them for the coronavirus, and began with a new hysteria about its origin. Then we'll see what the Chinese will do in this situation with regard to the assets of the West.
                        -if China starts free nationalization - investors and firms - owners of production facilities - will run from there in crowds ...
                        Another global financial crisis may begin ...
                        China understands this perfectly ...
            2. -5
              22 June 2021 07: 57
              If you don't like something, go from Russia. And so, in Putin's place, I would have long been simply offended humanly, I did everything for you, take new cars, turned dacha plots for potatoes into second houses and at the same time constantly moan how bad you live. Go to Nigeria, for example, or Ukraine and live well there.
              1. +2
                23 June 2021 10: 12
                Quote: EvilLion
                If you don't like something, - come from Russia.

                Quote: EvilLion
                Wali to Nigeria

                Weird! I can only upset you. You can at least emit bile here, but the effect of your lamentations will be like from a croaking frog in a distant swamp - absolutely no.
            3. +8
              22 June 2021 09: 40
              Quote: Stas157
              And he has been successfully engaged in this wonderful business (devaluation of wood) for all twenty years of his stupid reign, is engaged and will continue to do so!

              Stas, what are you .. unless this .. and flying with Siberian Cranes, diving to the bottom ... here it should be noted that at the bottom he is more comfortable than in the sky .. he sank to the bottom more often ..
              1. +3
                22 June 2021 16: 28
                Quote: Svarog
                Stas, what are you .. unless this .. and flights with Siberian Cranes, dive to the bottom...

                hi Greetings! Diving to the bottom is by far his favorite. Whatever he does, especially with regard to the economy and the welfare of citizens, he always gets there.
                1. +9
                  22 June 2021 17: 25
                  Quote: Stas157
                  Quote: Svarog
                  Stas, what are you .. unless this .. and flights with Siberian Cranes, dive to the bottom...

                  hi Greetings! Diving to the bottom is by far his favorite. Whatever he does, especially with regard to the economy and the welfare of citizens, he always gets there.

                  That's ... amazing non-professionalism .. for 20 years then, if you wanted, you could do so much .. his desires are directed only towards his friends .. hi drinks
          2. +2
            21 June 2021 09: 51
            With a change of power, they will not be specifically chased away ....... without them in any way. One will fill in about LGBT values, the second will do the same.
          3. +11
            21 June 2021 10: 14
            Quote: Gardamir
            on the "other fronts" the government stupidly loses,
            Well, the authorities have only two allies Kiselev and Zolotov.

            There is also the Russian Guard, the Tax Service, the Ministry of Internal Affairs and the FSB. No other allies are needed to hold on to power.
            1. +11
              21 June 2021 13: 57
              Quote: Normal ok
              There is also the Russian Guard, Tax, The Ministry of Internal Affairs and the FSB. No other allies are needed to hold on to power.
              Tax in my opinion will give everyone a head start smile smile in this case sarcasm. But what is the strength of the tax authorities is that the rich do not suffer from it ... everything is successful with them. such an anecdote went like that.
              The Kremlin has confirmed plans to raise taxes for the middle class. Ordinary people will not be affected by this, but only those snickering with an income of over 17000 per month.
          4. -3
            22 June 2021 07: 54
            And another 100 million citizens who are quite satisfied with Putin.
            1. +2
              23 June 2021 09: 47
              Quote: EvilLion
              And million 100 citizens who are quite satisfied with Putin.

              Why not 200?

              Zaputintsy freely control the numbers. Especially in yourself the right side.
              And nothing that takes part in the whole voting about 70 million citizens?
              And many of these citizens are categorically against the imposed uncontested personality!
        2. +8
          21 June 2021 09: 00
          Yes, yes, as soon as you get the impression that you are reading an agitation from the era of "stagnation", it is immediately clear that Samsonov is broadcasting.

          Trust in the authorities, of course, is at a low level, and our authorities themselves are to blame for this. But the situation is much more complicated than what the "author" writes here. He's like chess: here are white, here are black, and all the fields are square.

          And about seasonal flu vaccinations - generally stupid. We have not yet had a mass vaccination from it in our region, 10 people died annually from the flu, and since the normal percentage of vaccinations has been reached, even one death has become an emergency. So the citizen thinks he said cleverly, but he said nonsense. Another one.
          1. +36
            21 June 2021 12: 27
            Then a lot of questions arise - if the virus is so terrible, then why:

            You can't go to a cafe or to a bench, but you can use public transport stuffed like sprats in a bank?

            Why is it impossible for the opposition rally, but for the pro-government one?

            Why is everyone wearing masks, and the president, Sobyanin and others like him are not?

            Why is each new type of wave a revelation for the authorities and they reopen hospitals? Why close them then for two months?

            Who will be responsible for the massive closure of infectious diseases hospitals and departments?

            Why, in the midst of an epidemic, is not only internal tourism allowed, but also external, although it would seem that it should be covered first of all?

            And so on and so on .. List of doooolgii ..
            1. +8
              21 June 2021 12: 42
              if the virus is so terrible

              This disease is not fiction, and it is really serious. At least until we have accumulated sufficient experience in dealing with it. No matter how many doctors I talked to, all this was confirmed with one voice.

              Who will be responsible for the massive closure of infectious diseases hospitals and departments?

              Do you mean the "optimization" of medicine that was carried out before the pandemic? The answer is simple: no one will answer, just like no one answered for the holding of loans-for-shares auctions, for the voucher scam, and so on.

              As for the effectiveness of "countermeasures" to the spread of covid, here it is generally worth asking the question of the effectiveness of the actions of our authorities in principle, not only in this matter. So yeah,
              Doooolg list
              Nobody argues with this.

              But how does this cancel out the fact that covid is not a fiction, but a serious disease, so far much more serious than the flu? And how is this consistent with the fact that diseases like covid are best conquered by mass vaccinations?
              1. +23
                21 June 2021 12: 45
                And I agree that the thing is dangerous, that's why I have already taken root. Seen enough of friends under mechanical ventilation ... But the question is - why vaccination failed? Because this is the real level of trust in the authorities. Too many blatant stocks and punctures. Well, how to believe such scum, if they have been spoiling us as best they could for 30 years, and then suddenly they decided to kind of take care of the people? And it's free too ..
                1. +3
                  21 June 2021 12: 48
                  Quote: paul3390
                  Because it is precisely such a real level of trust in the authorities

                  +100500. The information campaign was not properly organized, the mass production of vaccines could not be established for a long time, etc. Generally,
                  Quote: paul3390
                  Too many blatant jambs and punctures

                  request
                  1. +15
                    21 June 2021 12: 52
                    The information campaign was not properly organized, the mass production of vaccines could not be established for a long time, etc.

                    And the worst thing is that not a single bastard answered for it .. However, as for the rest of the epic curse.

                    In principle, everyone is wrong. But then - at least indicatively whip the responsible ones !! If you really do not want to shoot them as they deserve for their deeds .. Then the people will believe - yes, there were shoals, but they were corrected and the guilty were punished .. The ultimate impunity of the leaders is the brightest feature of Putin's reign ..
                    1. +13
                      21 June 2021 13: 03
                      In principle, everyone is wrong. But then - at least indicatively whip the responsible ones !!

                      Moreover, not necessarily landings. After all, if a person has not coped, he can be stupidly demoted, making a retired goat a drummer for a certain amount of time. And if there he does not show his best side, then forever.

                      But most of all, I am touched by the ban on people involved in corruption from holding government positions "for three years," "for five years," and so on. For this, they should always be included in the "black list". It would also be nice to confiscate property, moreover, even from relatives (if it appeared during the period of "feeding" a convict for corruption). With the abandonment of the social minimum.

                      Quote: paul3390
                      the clearest feature of Putin's reign ..

                      It started long before Putin. He came to a ready-made system and worked with what was available. GDP managed to somehow make this system work. But now, in order to ensure the development of the country, its reconstruction is needed, and not cosmetic repairs in the form of national projects, changes in the government, etc. And Putin is no longer suitable for this. "The Moor has done his job - it's time for the Moor to retire." Otherwise, there is a strong chance that we will lag behind forever.
                      1. -5
                        21 June 2021 14: 06
                        It started long before Putin. He came to a ready-made system and worked with what was available.

                        A small amendment, he did not come - he was appointed after agreement with the rulers at the time, and under absolute guarantees. It's like the board of directors appoints the executive director of the facility to be scrapped. I don't understand why Russia still lives and even develops. Everything should have been something like this for a long time:

                        with all that it implies, and at the same time a sea of ​​blood, the loss of all industries and competencies, civil wars ...
                      2. 0
                        21 June 2021 14: 10
                        How comfortable it is for people to live in a black and white palette ...
                      3. +1
                        21 June 2021 14: 15
                        Want to say (as you claim)
                        He came to a ready-made system and worked with what was available
                        And not
                        he was appointed after agreement with the rulers at the time, and under absolute guarantees
                        how do i say this?
                      4. -2
                        21 June 2021 14: 17
                        Said what he said. I see no reason to continue.
                      5. +2
                        21 June 2021 14: 20
                        I see no reason to continue.

                        Well then, we will not continue. Good evening.
                      6. 0
                        21 June 2021 14: 24
                        Quote: Vasia
                        Good evening.

                        Mutually! good
                      7. 0
                        23 June 2021 11: 25
                        "How comfortable it is for people to live in a black and white palette ..."
                        many people live more comfortably in pink glasses
                  2. +3
                    21 June 2021 13: 11
                    Quote: Artyom Karagodin
                    +100500. The information campaign was not properly organized, the mass production of vaccines could not be established for a long time, etc. Generally,

                    So, in general, nothing was organized normally. Neither the quarantine regime nor the provision of masks. Although there was time for it. But I remember the bravura Solovyov tryndezh about the fact that we have something other than spiritless America. If Putin set himself the goal of dropping his rating and EP, he clearly achieved this.
                    1. +3
                      21 June 2021 13: 17
                      Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
                      If Putin set himself the goal of dropping his rating and EP, he clearly achieved this

                      A blessing in disguise.
                2. +7
                  21 June 2021 13: 27
                  Why Free? Very much even paid! They pay for vaccinations from the budget, and we fill the budget with our taxes. Then, certificates for antibodies are also not free. Even the doctors were paid. So everything is paid for with a full-fledged, albeit wooden, wooden ruble! Who? Now that's a question ...
                3. +3
                  21 June 2021 13: 48
                  But the question is - why did the vaccination fail? Because this is the real level of trust in the authorities. Too many blatant stocks and punctures. Well, how to believe such scum, if they have been spoiling us as best they could for 30 years, and then suddenly they decided to kind of take care of the people? And it's free too ..

                  Because the power gives too much freedom, they would not play too much. Thousands of information washes feel at ease, pouring tons of products of their vital activity into the heads of our citizens. And not only, even respected resources unwittingly help this - after all, the multiple comments of bots under the articles inspire doubts. During the smallpox outbreak in Moscow, it took 44 days to vaccinate about 10 million people. From the beginning of the mass vaccination to the complete stop of the infection - 19 days. What would happen to those who would try to somehow fight against vaccination at that time? That is why there was trust.
                4. +7
                  21 June 2021 14: 03
                  "I've seen enough of my friends under mechanical ventilation"
                  where could you see them? like, visitors are not allowed into the infection?
                  1. +1
                    21 June 2021 16: 05
                    where could you see them?
                    but it sounded beautiful and the plus signs are not enough.
                  2. +3
                    21 June 2021 19: 06
                    Why find fault with words? I also have many acquaintances in the infection stuck. And someone was disconnected from the ventilator due to the impossibility of saving. So you have chosen a very bad reason for swearing.
                    1. +1
                      22 June 2021 11: 10
                      "Why find fault with words?"
                      and you think before you speak. sometimes it is more useful to chew
                      "I also have a lot of friends in the infection stuck. And someone was disconnected from the ventilator due to the impossibility of saving."
                      a lot, how much is it? 1, 2, or 100500? and with what did they lie there? Is everything straight with a virus? And do you know that IVL devices do not help against the virus, from the word at all, and even harmful, because they damage the lungs?
                      1. -1
                        22 June 2021 12: 51
                        You choose expressions, dear. And then the reasoning about the benefits of chewing instead of chatter from your lips is downright ridiculous to listen to, excuse me, to read. I repeat: you have chosen a very bad reason to flirt.

                        Of those whom I know personally, two died from the coronavirus, more precisely, from complications against its background. One of them was under mechanical ventilation, since he could already breathe on his own. When it became clear that it could not be saved, they turned it off. Another friend was also lying under a ventilator (she could not breathe either), but she was rescued, although they were also preparing to shut down. The illness was too hard. But, again, I got out.

                        Quote: aglet
                        and you think before you speak
                      2. -1
                        22 June 2021 13: 02
                        what horrors do you tell
                        as it is very interesting about the termination of the respiratory reflex with a virus - is this a new symptom?
                        "from coronavirus, more precisely, from complications against its background,"
                        so all the same not from the virus. and how old were they? 25 or 88?
                        "Another friend was also lying under a ventilator (she could not breathe either)"
                        the respiratory reflex dies off when the brain is destroyed, and not with colds
                        "You choose the expression, my dear"
                        I can tell you the same, you spread rumors, sow panic among your own kind, thereby weakening the collective immunity
                      3. +1
                        22 June 2021 13: 04
                        I speak real facts that I KNOW personally. But I won't tell you anything else - they didn't come out with a mug.
                      4. -4
                        22 June 2021 13: 15
                        "I'm talking real facts,"
                        your two "real" facts about ivl explain everything specifically.
                        and face, dear, you see in the mirror
                      5. +1
                        22 June 2021 13: 34
                        Quote: aglet
                        face, dear, you see in the mirror

                        Unless you will be standing next to me.

                        However, you are right that it was necessary to write not "I say", but "I bring" or "I call".
                  3. 0
                    21 June 2021 22: 31
                    aiguillette. How is it not allowed? Everyone is allowed on TV and even forced to watch. The Nazis did not frighten their people with views from the concentration camps, while others let them in easily. Who do you think ruined healthcare and everything else? Destroyed the very ones who forced the people to build it. Since Khrushch, the whole party sang - the people, we are your servants. So they made a revolution and the "servants" became masters and even nobles, the highest class and the United States supports them. Apparently, the US president reprimanded another president that they began to steal money, that the dates were missing.
                5. -2
                  22 June 2021 14: 50
                  But the question is - why did the vaccination fail? Because this is the real level of trust in the authorities. Too many blatant stocks and punctures. Well, how to believe such scum, if they have been spoiling us as best they could for 30 years, and then suddenly they decided to kind of take care of the people? And it's free too ..
                  ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
                  Just talked to the Russians from the Russian Federation just now and understood the reason for the failure of the vaccination.
                  He asked why they haven’t been vaccinated yet?
                  Answer: we are afraid of vaccines, they will not give anything good for FREE.

                  It was necessary for the Ministry of Health to make a vaccine with a deficiency that cannot be obtained, only for their own people and for a lot of money, and then at a discount and there would be queues for the deficit)))
          2. +5
            21 June 2021 12: 37
            Quote: Artyom Karagodin
            And about seasonal flu vaccinations - generally stupid.

            when my son was 8 years old, they got a seasonal flu shot at school. On the same day, the temperature was 40, vomiting, weakness, had been ill in a very severe form. 80% of the class got sick after this vaccination. Since then, influenza vaccinations have been abandoned. I was sick like all normal children. So believe in vaccination after that.
            1. +3
              21 June 2021 12: 46
              Here you need to understand in detail. What drug was inoculated, how high-quality the batch was, etc.

              For four years now I have been vaccinated against influenza with domestic drugs and have not experienced any problems. The first two years there was a slight malaise and a temperature of up to +37,5 for two or three days, and then that was gone. He stopped getting sick at all, although before he began to be vaccinated, it happened regularly. Sometimes and not once a season.

              Stupidity Samsonov wrote that the mass vaccination against influenza is for washing out grandmothers. So you can get to the point that the mass sale of bread - from the same opera.
              1. +2
                21 June 2021 22: 34
                Artyom Karagodin. You reminded me of the words of one Jew: when you die, the first three years are difficult, and then you get used to it. You have forgotten the saying that death is a joy for a Russian for a German. You, like Stirlitz: a shot rang out radio operator Ket fell, Stirlitz was on the alert. No infection will take you, but children get sick.
                1. -2
                  21 June 2021 23: 00
                  Quote: zenion
                  children are sick

                  I understand your concern, but in our region 7 thousand children are vaccinated annually and there were no cases described by you.
              2. 0
                22 June 2021 07: 45
                Quote: Artyom Karagodin
                Here you need to understand in detail. What drug was inoculated, how high-quality the batch was, etc.

                For four years now I have been vaccinated against influenza with domestic drugs and have not experienced any problems. The first two years there was a slight malaise and a temperature of up to +37,5 for two or three days, and then that was gone. He stopped getting sick at all, although before he began to be vaccinated, it happened regularly. Sometimes and not once a season.

                Stupidity Samsonov wrote that the mass vaccination against influenza is for washing out grandmothers. So you can get to the point that the mass sale of bread - from the same opera.

                I am vaccinated, or no, the result is the same, I do not get sick. And this year, thanks to the control that they were immediately sent to sick leave with snot, people were generally sick by an order of magnitude less in the shop.
          3. -1
            21 June 2021 22: 25
            There is a correct opinion - this is yours, and the rest is rubbish.
        3. +8
          21 June 2021 12: 18
          He is right about the crisis of capitalism.
          1. 0
            21 June 2021 12: 50
            Yes, besides Samsonov, so many people wrote about this, and, moreover, much more literate than he, that there is even no point in pointing it out.
          2. -3
            21 June 2021 15: 31
            There is no crisis of capitalism - all this is wishful thinking.
            1. +3
              21 June 2021 15: 49
              They regularly occur, you can remember 2008 and the economic crisis.
      2. +32
        21 June 2021 05: 13
        and the people do not need to lie, then there will be trust
        It did not start yesterday, what trust can there be after "There will be no devaluation, I declare this firmly and clearly" "We have calculated our reserves and are ready to meet this wave" "If prices become uncontrollable, they will exceed more than three to four times, I myself I'll lie across the rails "" I am against increasing the retirement age. And while I am president, such a decision will not be made. "
        1. +20
          21 June 2021 12: 29
          For having lied once, it is difficult to wait for the people's trust. And Putin has been lying to us for 20 years without smoke breaks. And - not in the least embarrassed ..
      3. +25
        21 June 2021 07: 15
        Quote: Dead Day
        and the people do not need to lie, then there will be trust
        Here, it's hard not to borrow a picture from a previous vaccine survey thread.

        Personally, I decided to be vaccinated, EpiVacCorona. Probably, the effect of Soviet education.
        There is no definite answer as to which vaccine is safer and better. The only thing that I managed to understand was that EpiVacCorona is less reactogenic, that is, it is more easily tolerated and with fewer side effects than Sputnik V. But the immune response to it, logically, will be less persistent and prolonged, that is, the second vaccination will have to be done much earlier.
        1. +9
          21 June 2021 07: 45
          Today I am going to be vaccinated.
        2. +12
          21 June 2021 10: 05
          Quote: Per se.
          Personally, I decided to be vaccinated, EpiVacCorona.

          Perhaps it is worth waiting for KoviVac (the Chumakov Center vaccine is the most classic vaccine). At least doctors speak well of her. Sputnik really has a lot of side effects.
          1. +4
            21 June 2021 11: 01
            There are side effects from everything except saline. I was vaccinated and another 20 friends - by the evening of 37.5. A couple of days unwell. The second is easier.
            1. +5
              21 June 2021 11: 06
              Quote: Lykases1
              There are side effects from everything except saline.

              you are wrong. In my eyes, after the infusion of saline, due to a pyrogenic reaction, the patient tried to throw herself out of the window
            2. 0
              21 June 2021 13: 24
              Our editor (63 years old) after the first component, everything was fine, after the second - the temperature jumped to 38 at night. I drank an ibuclin pill, and everything went away.
            3. +2
              21 June 2021 14: 58
              Well I do not know. I was grafted in March. Everything went smoothly.
          2. 0
            21 June 2021 15: 36
            In a few days, Sputnik Light will go into circulation - I will be revaccinated with it, otherwise the Indian stamp is still the same svizdets from a friend for the tenth day, breaking the whole body temperature from 37, 5 to 39 headaches and losing 7 kilograms.
            1. +2
              21 June 2021 19: 08
              May God grant him to recover as soon as possible!
      4. -11
        21 June 2021 08: 36
        The statement about "a 100% guarantee that without a change of government it will get worse" - obvious stupidity. Do you want to say if I.V. Stalin would not have left (or he would not have gone), would it have been worse in the USSR than under Khrushchev, who laid the foundations for the collapse of the Union, rehabilitated traitors?
        1. +4
          21 June 2021 09: 20
          Khrushchev did not mortgage anything. Enough to blame and blame the Communists for what the enemies of the Communists have done, including the seizure and dismemberment of the USSR by them into their evil anti-Soviet-Russophobic States.
          1. +4
            21 June 2021 09: 46
            Enough to blame and blame the communists for what the enemies of the communists have done, including the seizure and dismemberment of the USSR into their evil anti-Soviet-Russophobic states.

            Well I asked you, Irina:
            Although in essence, sometimes answer for a change, and do not push your thoughtless chants.

            Well, really funny, you are not in school?
            Who is the enemy and who is the communist do you personally define? Gorbachev was formally a communist, but now you will be the first to say that he is an enemy. And Yakovlev? You don't have to talk about Yeltsin. If Khrushchev is not your enemy, then Stalin is definitely your enemy. Khrushchev, with his false report, condemned and debunked the personality cult of Stalin, placing all responsibility on it, and keeping silent about his own participation in the repressions. At this point, Irina, you have to choose - "either eat the fish, or don't go into the pond." That you are really wagging, it is not communist, not proletarian. Maybe, of course, you are pretending to be a crazy fanatical communist, however, if not, I sincerely sympathize with you.
            1. -1
              21 June 2021 09: 52
              DO NOT need stupid demagoguery. Those who, since Perestroika, have been malignant against the communists, justify the crimes of external and internal enemies of the communists, made the collapse of the USSR their main state holiday, and they seized the USSR and divided it into separate States, and it doesn't matter what they pretended to be during the USSR. And the blame for the crimes of some people on others, and separatism has always been considered a state crime in world history, is a crime.
              1. +4
                21 June 2021 10: 09
                DO NOT need stupid demagoguery.

                Here I agree 100%. I posed a simple question to Dedkestar (not you), refuting his thesis:
                Do you want to say if I.V. Stalin would not have left (or he would not have gone), then it would have been worse in the USSR

                If you want to answer the question - please answer, why talk about it. And then they lit here you understand some kind of demagoguery. That's how you all chatter, such communists and ruined the Union.
                This is your whole point:


                Glorify the selfish Khrushchev further.
                1. -1
                  21 June 2021 10: 12
                  What do you cowardly "switch the arrows"? What does Stalin have to do with it? I answered the words
                  Khrushche, who laid the foundation for the collapse of the Union
                  with which you justified the real criminals who dismembered the USSR.
                  1. +3
                    21 June 2021 10: 35
                    What do you cowardly "switch the arrows"? What does Stalin have to do with it? I answered the words

                    Dedkastary - he is smarter, so he did not answer the question, well, maybe he minus (I will not argue) and went on. Take an example from older comrades, gain mind-reason smile
                    1. -3
                      21 June 2021 10: 41
                      Silly answer. If you are unable to answer anything intelligently, do not torture Claudia. Good luck .
                      1. +6
                        21 June 2021 10: 43
                        Silly answer. If you are unable to answer anything intelligently, do not torture Claudia. Good luck .

                        Have a nice one you too. Make sure to get vaccinated.
                2. +8
                  21 June 2021 12: 31
                  such communists and destroyed the Union.

                  Alas, having a party membership card still does not make a person a communist. It is necessary to look - only at real deeds ...
                  1. +6
                    21 June 2021 12: 48
                    Alas, having a party membership card still does not make a person a communist. It is necessary to look - only at real deeds ...

                    I tried to explain this to Irina, and she:
                    Khrushchev did not mortgage anything. Stop blaming the communists for the blame and responsibility for what the enemies of the communists have done

                    With her, both Stalin and Khrushchev, who "trampled down" him for the sake of selfish interests, are both good, for they are communists. How does it fit in one head.
          2. +3
            21 June 2021 12: 20
            Almost all of Khrushchev's economic and political activities were harmful to the USSR.
          3. 0
            21 June 2021 22: 41
            Do you want to say that it was the enemies of the people who ordered the planting of potatoes and corn in the Arctic?
    2. 0
      21 June 2021 06: 47
      And now, below in the commentary Dedkastary repeats slogans about the changes. What do you think, in 30 years, someone will not be grieving in the same way?
    3. +5
      21 June 2021 08: 40
      ON pressure on vaccination is the Nuremberg Code of 1947.
      And if something is a written GUARANTEE of the doctor about the absence of SERIOUS side effects.
      1. +6
        21 June 2021 09: 33
        Quote: knn54
        And if something is a written GUARANTEE of the doctor about the absence of SERIOUS side effects.

        No doctor will give you such a guarantee
      2. +13
        21 June 2021 11: 43
        Russia came out on top in terms of the number of unwilling to vaccinate.
    4. 0
      22 June 2021 07: 41
      Quote: Michael55
      But everything was so tempting in the 80s ... Change ... change! So we got it !!!! Sorry not to go back ...

      Changes are always needed, but not radical. Do we have a people for the state, or a state for the people?
    5. 0
      27 July 2021 12: 31
      The people do not want to be vaccinated with fat, they do not want to be vaccinated in other countries, and they are happy with nothing, but in Russia it is already completely. In the Emirates, since August 1, he who is not vaccinated even in the store will not be allowed into other public places, too, except for his own home, and no matter what all the rules, try to object to something, but strain you here so verbal diarrhea does not stop ..
  2. +13
    21 June 2021 04: 20
    Alexander, the article is interesting, thanks!
    I largely agree with your theses.
    But the last phrase about a "full-fledged" alliance with China is puzzling. Does anyone really believe that we can be so interesting to China? For them, we are one of the many "partners", no more. And according to the Hamburg account - a supplier of resources, unfortunately.
    1. 0
      21 June 2021 08: 57
      Quote: Proton
      Does anyone really believe that we can be so interesting to China?

      We can be of interest to China in two ways ... technological and territorial. As soon as their technological level exceeds ours, they will take over Siberia. Who has not thought about what the permission of the Chinese authorities to increase the birth rate carries? In essence, this is preparation for war. A great war in which China will not reckon with combat losses. As soon as China begins its expansion into Siberia, the United States and Japan and Korea will enter the Far East. Further, in order to avoid the loss of the gas pipe, Europe will begin to move ...
      1. +8
        21 June 2021 09: 14
        Quote: Canecat
        Who has not thought about what the permission of the Chinese authorities to increase the birth rate carries? In essence, this is preparation for war.

        Actually, it's not a fact. In China, there are such serious problems with demography that ours are against their background ... You cannot even call them troubles. China is aging rapidly, so rapidly that there is no reasonable way out at all. Well, except for the mass executions of old people a worthy option.
        Although the fact that the treaties of the 19th century with Russia, China officially calls the wave unfair, this problem does not cancel.
        1. 0
          21 June 2021 12: 32
          The amendment, while the billion is old, our 140 million (no), in general, will go to zero. And this is what you call the unenlightened demography of the Chinese?
          1. +7
            21 June 2021 13: 14
            Quote: evgen1221
            The amendment, while the billion is old, our 140 million (no), in general, will go to zero.


            This is the age pyramid of China. According to the results of the 2010 census.

            This one is ours. 2019.
            Now let's compare. Our pyramid is population decline. A very disgusting fact. But. There is at least one pleasant moment. Smooth decrease. There is only one problem. The population is dwindling, and that's about it.
            China pyramid. While there is no reduction. But there are two predominant groups. Localized by the ages of 50-60 and 30-35 years. This is adjusted for the fact that the pyramid is 10 years old. The age group 0-20 years, which should replace them in the next 15-20 years, is approximately 2,5 times inferior to these groups. By the way, a drop in numbers is also not far off. it seems that in 5-6 years the population of China will begin to decrease. But this is not a problem, and not even a problem against the background of the fact that in a year or two a real priest begins. In place of 2-3 retired workers by age, only one will take over ... And in 20-25 years, for 1 worker, in China, there will be 2 pensioners.
            And this problem has no solutions. In principle, it does not. It will be stupid to increase the birth rate sharply. The restrictions in China were lifted a long time ago, and they even started to encourage them. But the birth rate is falling. The path of capitalism is the path of degeneration of humanity. Neither the Russians nor the Chinese want to give birth to a bunch of children, just so that the billionaire has a free slave. Yeah. And even if it succeeds, it will only exacerbate the problem. It is difficult for two workers to provide for four pensioners and one child. On the brink of survival. And maybe beyond. But the same two, four pensioners and four children? It's easier to hang yourself. That is why I speak. China, in the medium term, has no optimistic development scenarios in principle. Or firing ditches, for hundreds of millions of old people, or such a degradation of the economy, against the background of which our 90s are the times of a joyful and carefree life. Yes
            PS
            And this I am not touching on the issue of the lack of women in China. Which turns a daunting problem into a common disaster. Yeah.
            1. -2
              21 June 2021 13: 59
              The mines for the extraction of people have not yet been exhausted. China, just like everyone else, can import migrants and the growth of labor productivity due to new technologies has not been canceled. So China has problems, but not so catastrophic.
            2. -2
              21 June 2021 19: 45
              Quote: Lannan Shi
              Quote: evgen1221
              The amendment, while the billion is old, our 140 million (no), in general, will go to zero.


              This is the age pyramid of China. According to the results of the 2010 census.

              This one is ours. 2019.
              Now let's compare. Our pyramid is population decline. A very disgusting fact. But. There is at least one pleasant moment. Smooth decrease. There is only one problem. The population is dwindling, and that's about it.
              China pyramid. While there is no reduction. But there are two predominant groups. Localized by the ages of 50-60 and 30-35 years. This is adjusted for the fact that the pyramid is 10 years old. The age group 0-20 years, which should replace them in the next 15-20 years, is approximately 2,5 times inferior to these groups. By the way, a drop in numbers is also not far off. it seems that in 5-6 years the population of China will begin to decrease. But this is not a problem, and not even a problem against the background of the fact that in a year or two a real priest begins. In place of 2-3 retired workers by age, only one will take over ... And in 20-25 years, for 1 worker, in China, there will be 2 pensioners.
              And this problem has no solutions. In principle, it does not. It will be stupid to increase the birth rate sharply. The restrictions in China were lifted a long time ago, and they even started to encourage them. But the birth rate is falling. The path of capitalism is the path of degeneration of humanity. Neither the Russians nor the Chinese want to give birth to a bunch of children, just so that the billionaire has a free slave. Yeah. And even if it succeeds, it will only exacerbate the problem. It is difficult for two workers to provide for four pensioners and one child. On the brink of survival. And maybe beyond. But the same two, four pensioners and four children? It's easier to hang yourself. That is why I speak. China, in the medium term, has no optimistic development scenarios in principle. Or firing ditches, for hundreds of millions of old people, or such a degradation of the economy, against the background of which our 90s are the times of a joyful and carefree life. Yes
              PS
              And this I am not touching on the issue of the lack of women in China. Which turns a daunting problem into a common disaster. Yeah.

              China may actually be lucky, the demographic has already begun and last year there was a natural population decline, in the long term, the population of China at best by 2100 will be 1 billion, at worst about 500 million. Most likely 700-800. In the future, due to optimization and new technologies, less and less labor will be needed, for example, within 10 years, accounting will almost completely disappear. To service the 1C program, you will need 1 proger and 1 accountant. Earlier, the accounting department was one of the largest. Taxi drivers, factory workers, they will all be needed less, as AI and robotic enterprises will supplant them. Therefore, in the future for humanity and effective economic policy, fewer people will be needed. The population decline is going on all over the world (with the exception of Africa so far), but it will get to them too.
              1. 0
                22 June 2021 12: 15
                Quote: Antonio_Mariarti
                Earlier, the accounting department was one of the largest.

                Well, after all, you are lying in a shameless way, because my wife in her youth worked in the planning and economic department of a large enterprise, where there were only several hundred vehicles, and an even larger infrastructure with repair services, etc. And several specialists worked for them in this department together with accountants, I don’t remember exactly, but there were only 5 or 6 people, and somehow everyone managed, even on paper.
                1. -3
                  22 June 2021 17: 04
                  Quote: ccsr
                  Quote: Antonio_Mariarti
                  Earlier, the accounting department was one of the largest.

                  Well, after all, you are lying in a shameless way, because my wife in her youth worked in the planning and economic department of a large enterprise, where there were only several hundred vehicles, and an even larger infrastructure with repair services, etc. And several specialists worked for them in this department together with accountants, I don’t remember exactly, but there were only 5 or 6 people, and somehow everyone managed, even on paper.

                  Um, is that how it refutes my words? And the words: I don't remember exactly. It's straight, proof on proof! Well, yes, and the most important building in Moscow "Tsentrosoyuz Building" also consisted of the majority of engineers.
            3. +1
              23 June 2021 10: 48
              Quote: Lannan Shi
              Or firing ditches for hundreds of millions of old people, or such a degradation of the economy, against the background of which our 90s are the times of a joyful and carefree life.

              Or a virus that will mow down pensioners;)
      2. 0
        22 June 2021 08: 20
        There is no sense in this decision. The birth rate in the PRC has been steadily declining in recent years. The party (CCP) cannot do anything about it. The overwhelming majority of Han people (for other peoples of the PRC, the situation may be different), like the Japanese and South Koreans, do not want to have large families.
  3. +6
    21 June 2021 04: 31
    Potentially, Russia could compete with China. And there were enough brains and resources, at least at the beginning of everything. And they flew to the level of Uganda, i.e. moved out. A question for experts, 1 minute to answer: Is Russia heading in that direction?
    1. +9
      21 June 2021 07: 43
      Quote: Oleg_P
      Is Russia heading in that direction?
      Not picking up capitalism. It's funny that in Russia there is "fraternal" and dependent on the West capitalism, even our Central Bank is actually under the IMF, and there is a boycott and sanctions against us. In China, "commies" are like socialism, and the West turns a blind eye to the Chinese "communists", and to horrible piracy with theft of technology, and attacks on Taiwan and the disputed islands.

      Is it strange? Only at first glance. On the one hand, China would never have risen without the help of the USSR, and the same West did not spend so much on it. On the other hand, after Damansky, from China, which had already carried out industrialization thanks to the USSR, they began to make the eastern anti-USSR, plus huge profits of transnational monopolies on counterfeit goods, with cheap labor. That's all the "Chinese miracle".

      Communism is initially international, and in China there is a lot of nationalism, with territorial claims to all neighboring countries, including Russia. China managed not only to make war with the USSR in Damanskoye, but also to attack socialist Vietnam. Such, here, there are "national communists". To be friends with them, as with Hitler, under his "socialism" for the Germans.

      Russia for the West is the antipode, even with the tsar, even with the democrats, a strong Russia must be destroyed at any cost. It didn’t work out on the well-fed Hitler - China was nearby. They will not help us, good Russia, or dead, or weakly weak. China, on the other hand, is not self-sufficient, its West, if it wants to, can swiftly slam down. The Chinese do not have any independence, all this is fiction, an appearance. Therefore, for Russia, only the allies, determined by Emperor Alexander III, remain relevant, and not the current ones - oil and gas.
      1. +5
        21 June 2021 08: 54
        Quote: Per se.
        It's funny that in Russia there is "fraternal" and dependent on the West capitalism, even our Central Bank is actually under the IMF, and there is a boycott and sanctions against us. In China, "commies" are like socialism, and the West turns a blind eye to the Chinese "communists", and to horrible piracy with theft of technology, and attacks on Taiwan and the disputed islands.

        Strange?


        Several, the weak beat the strong are respected. Why do they close their eyes in China? Because this is 1/2 the world's economy, in which so many goods are produced that it is impossible to isolate or impose sanctions without damage to yourself ... the same US would they like to completely abandon trade with China? Of course, there is simply nothing to replace a huge category of goods with + if the PRC closes access to its market (with 1,4 billion consumers), then the West will not be happy. Therefore, the fight against the PRC is being conducted, but without crossing the red lines (in the economy) + the population of China, is quite patriotic ... remember at least the boycotts of Western clothing companies, the nightmare of the West, because tomorrow boycotts can be repeated in other industries.

        Now let's look at Russia, what is our share in the world economy? How many % ? There is practically no interdependence, the West represented by: USA - Canada - Great Britain - Australia does not depend on us, not in terms of any goods, services, technology or energy resources. The EU has such a dependence on energy resources - Russia, and then only in some countries, and even then it did not help much in 2014 with the introduction of the EU sanctions against Russia. And in the economy, we are quite insignificant (for the West), therefore, they impose sanctions and hit wherever possible .... because they can do it. And we are mostly afraid .... remember the story of the expulsion of our diplomats by the Czech Republic? And how the plans leaked to the media, to impose sanctions against Czech companies in Russia (beer producers), and what? But nothing, the media explained to the population that they say we answered - by restrictions in the field of diplomacy (although there was damage here, more was done to Russia, given how many people we had in the Czech Republic and how many went home) ... and the economic response? they were silent about this topic and it disappeared from the information space .... or take boycotts, the Russians boycotted Western products (after the 2014 sanction)? Not really, and the contrast is especially visible against the background of the Chinese boycott of H&M, Nike and other Western clothing manufacturers (because of the statements about the Xinjiang Uygur region).

        So the differences between China and Russia are very significant, different weight (in the economy), different interdependence with the West, different ideological components, etc. - therefore, where it is profitable, the West closes its eyes, and where it can strike, without prejudice to itself, it beats.
      2. +1
        21 June 2021 12: 26
        We started well, and then it went about Russia anti-west. The West does not care about Russia, they do not need competition no matter what country it is.
      3. +1
        21 June 2021 13: 21
        Quote: Per se.
        and the West turns a blind eye to the Chinese "communists", and to horrible piracy with theft of technology, and to attacks on Taiwan and the disputed islands.

        They don't close anymore. And for a long time. The United States is assembling a coalition against China, officially declaring it enemy number 1. And at the meeting between Biden and Putin, the issue of China was probably raised because we are currently the main stumbling block in the way of the US plans with respect to China.
    2. -7
      21 June 2021 19: 50
      Quote: Oleg_P
      Potentially, Russia could compete with China. And there were enough brains and resources, at least at the beginning of everything. And they flew to the level of Uganda, i.e. moved out. A question for experts, 1 minute to answer: Is Russia heading in that direction?

      After the collapse of the USSR, Russia was made a full-fledged member of the Western world and it took its own niche, like all countries - an energy power. The main export should be resources. As long as we observed these agreements (not to move too much) Georgia was forgiven us, but Crimea, alas, did not. Our incomes, state incomes grew very powerfully. Before the 2008 crisis, GDP was doubled. China has not doubled its GDP in 8 years) But we violated and went against the West and were punished. Western countries are the main investor and consumer of our goods. It turned out that we became poorer 2-3 times. But in 2014 we caught up with Poland in terms of living standards, and now we will not catch up with it for 20 years, if we grow above the world. It is still not clear why Russia did this. If the goal was to return Russian lands, then Crimea would not end, and if not. What was it?
      1. +1
        22 June 2021 17: 08
        it was not necessary to annex Crimea?
        1. -6
          22 June 2021 17: 11
          Quote: Nastia Makarova
          it was not necessary to annex Crimea?

          Think for yourself. In Ukraine, calm without a passport, they could visit Crimea, the Russian language dominated, fraternal relations with the Ukrainians, they only joked about Crimea. And when they returned, what changed there? Only the flag of Ukraine has changed to the Russian Federation. Well, he poured money as well as in more than one region. And the cons of getting a whole mountain.
          1. +3
            22 June 2021 17: 16
            that's exactly a calm Ukraine, how it began to rage and do nasty things, then this is no longer our Ukraine and it was necessary to do something
            in the Crimea a lot of things have changed !!! completely new infrastructure, new thermal power plants built, houses are new or improved, for me there are no downsides
            1. -3
              22 June 2021 18: 46
              Quote: Nastia Makarova
              Lying as always

              I was in Crimea in 2012, 2015 and 2018. Only the flag and infrastructure have changed. Yes, the roads have gotten better, and the infrastructure in general has gotten better. This is a plus only for the Crimeans, and not for the citizens of the rest of the country. Well, since there are no downsides for you, then this is good.
              1. +2
                22 June 2021 18: 50
                I was in May of this year, the Tavrida highway was almost completed, 10 kilometers left to Sevastopol, the Crimeans are also citizens of our country, they did it for them, in Moscow they are also building new roads for Muscovites, for St. Petersburg residents too
                1. -4
                  22 June 2021 18: 52
                  Quote: Nastia Makarova
                  I was in May of this year, the Tavrida highway was almost completed, 10 kilometers left to Sevastopol, the Crimeans are also citizens of our country, they did it for them, in Moscow they are also building new roads for Muscovites, for St. Petersburg residents too

                  When will a bridge across the Lena be built in Yakutia? Or are they not citizens of the Russian Federation? And such examples are enough. Once again, I am happy for the Crimean people, but Crimea is not all of Russia, like Moscow and St. Petersburg.
                  1. +1
                    22 June 2021 18: 56
                    Someday they will build, for everything at once no one did not have enough funds !!
                    By the way, the railway road to Yakutsk was recently built that year and this is 900 kilometers !!! therefore Yakutia is also not offended
                    1. -3
                      22 June 2021 18: 58
                      Quote: Nastia Makarova
                      Someday they will build, for everything at once no one did not have enough funds !!
                      By the way, the railway road to Yakutsk was recently built that year and this is 900 kilometers !!! therefore Yakutia is also not offended

                      No, not in that year: "Now the railway has already been built, freight traffic on it was opened in autumn 2013, and preparatory work for the launch of passenger trains, which will appear on the line next year, are being completed at the terminal station Nizhniy Bestyakh." Built in good times. (2014)
                      1. +1
                        22 June 2021 19: 06
                        well, even more so !! done even earlier, so they are not offended either
                      2. -4
                        22 June 2021 19: 14
                        Quote: Nastia Makarova
                        well, even more so !! done even earlier, so they are not offended either

                        Can you calculate how many bridges in the regions could be built for the price of one Crimean Bridge?
                      3. +1
                        22 June 2021 19: 17
                        all the same, this cannot be considered, the Crimean bridge was needed, it will be built in other places, not all at once
                      4. -4
                        22 June 2021 19: 25
                        Quote: Nastia Makarova
                        all the same, this cannot be considered, the Crimean bridge was needed, it will be built in other places, not all at once

                        He was "FORCED-NEEDED" That is, they created a problem for themselves and solved it themselves. Nice
                      5. 0
                        23 June 2021 06: 35
                        no problem
                  2. 0
                    23 June 2021 11: 39
                    Quote: Antonio_Mariarti
                    When will a bridge across the Lena be built in Yakutia?

                    Do you live in Yakutia too? At first, they lied to us about the problems of Crimea, now, after the exposure of your false posts, they took up Yakutia. Aren't you afraid that some author from that region is driving you with a face about the table?
                    Then, probably, you will tackle the problems of the inhabitants of the capitals, like a certain Crimean doctor ...
                    1. -2
                      23 June 2021 16: 59
                      Quote: ccsr
                      Quote: Antonio_Mariarti
                      When will a bridge across the Lena be built in Yakutia?

                      Do you live in Yakutia too? At first, they lied to us about the problems of Crimea, now, after the exposure of your false posts, they took up Yakutia. Aren't you afraid that some author from that region is driving you with a face about the table?
                      Then, probably, you will tackle the problems of the inhabitants of the capitals, like a certain Crimean doctor ...

                      Grandfather, calm down already, it's no longer funny to read what you write.
          2. +3
            22 June 2021 17: 42
            Quote: Antonio_Mariarti
            And the cons of getting a whole mountain.

            Lying as always - 85% of Crimeans will at least never agree to return to Ukraine, despite some inconveniences in their personal lives. And they do not regret that they ended up in Russia, but on the contrary are grateful to Putin that he quickly assessed the situation and included them in the Russian Federation.
            Quote: Antonio_Mariarti
            Well, he poured money as well as in more than one region.

            Have you seen the Crimean poverty in real life in the zero and early tenth years? Naughty people lived there, most of them drove old Zhiguli, and all their children were sent either to Kiev or to Russia to work or study. That is why it was necessary to pour into them in order to somehow raise the standard of living, and only the stubborn Svidomo who live in Crimea whine that supposedly living in Ukraine is better.
            By the way, now, as the shift at the Gulf plant ends, kilometer-long traffic jams are formed there - this is how "badly" the Crimeans began to live.
            1. -4
              22 June 2021 18: 49
              Lying as always
              ... Proof or balabol.
              85% of Crimeans will at least never agree to return to Ukraine, despite some inconveniences in their personal lives.
              If I lived in Crimea, I also would not want to return to Ukraine (well, in part), as indeed life has become better there, although there is only one drawback about the Internet, about the slaves of banks.
              And they do not regret that they ended up in Russia, but on the contrary are grateful to Putin that he quickly assessed the situation and included them in the Russian Federation.
              Yes, yes, he thought about people, of course! (No).
              Have you seen the Crimean poverty in real life in the zero and early tenth years?
              I saw it in 2012, there was no particular poverty, but in terms of improvement it lagged behind the regions of the Russian Federation on average, but not much.
              By the way, now, as the shift at the Gulf plant ends, kilometer-long traffic jams are formed there - this is how "badly" the Crimeans began to live.
              I am happy for the Crimeans, because now they are supported by the rest of Russia. But the rest of Russia from Crimea only got worse.
              1. +2
                22 June 2021 19: 11
                Quote: Antonio_Mariarti
                , although about the Internet, about the slaves of banks, there is one drawback.

                Lying once again - the Internet has been working there regularly since 2015, as soon as new fiber-optic lines were laid on the peninsula. All banks are working normally, a Sberbank card can be received by mail if desired. If you don’t want by mail, welcome to Taman - there they will issue it very quickly, which is what many Crimeans use. What else do you need for comfort?
                Quote: Antonio_Mariarti
                I saw it in 2012, there was no particular poverty, but in terms of improvement it lagged behind the regions of the Russian Federation on average, but not much.

                I don’t need to lie - I’ve been there all the time since Soviet times, and I have something to compare with.
                Quote: Antonio_Mariarti
                I am glad for the Crimeans, because now they are supported by the rest of Russia.

                The Zaliv shipyard strengthens our defenses - it builds warships, and this is the largest shipyard on the Black Sea. So the Crimeans are working out their credit of trust, and this is not enough for you?
                Quote: Antonio_Mariarti
                But the rest of Russia from Crimea only got worse.

                This is a lie, if only because it is from other regions that people go to rest there - how did it become worse for them? The fact that Ukrainian border guards and customs officers do not scoff at Russian citizens when they crossed the border with Ukraine - is that something you don't like?
                Quote: Antonio_Mariarti
                If I lived in Crimea,

                No, you already live at home "near Odessa", the svidomye remained in the Crimea without you, it is high time to send them to Ukraine, to the origins of their "love of freedom" ...
                1. -4
                  22 June 2021 19: 21
                  Quote: ccsr
                  Lying once again - the Internet has been working there regularly since 2015, as soon as new fiber-optic lines were laid on the peninsula.

                  Lying once again - the Internet has been working there regularly since 2015, as soon as new fiber-optic lines were laid on the peninsula.
                  If they didn’t get it, it was slander. Well, for people like you, this is the order of things. And before that there was no Internet? ; D. How much is the average speed in Crimea in mb? There is no Sberbank in Crimea, that is, only subsidiaries. That is, you can withdraw with interest, there is no cash like in other regions, I am already silent about the mobile bank of Sberbank. This is comfort.
                  What else do you need for comfort?
                  For example, to work Bookingcom?
                  I don’t need to lie - I’ve been there all the time since Soviet times, and I have something to compare with.
                  Hello, Uncle, will there be any justification for the lie?
                  The Zaliv shipyard strengthens our defenses - it builds warships, and this is the largest shipyard on the Black Sea. So the Crimeans are working out their credit of trust, and this is not enough for you?
                  Is the budget of the Crimea a surplus or a deficit? How many ships were built in Crimea in 2020 and laid down?
                  This is a lie, if only because it is from other regions that people go to rest there - how did it become worse for them? The fact that Ukrainian border guards and customs officers do not scoff at Russian citizens when they crossed the border with Ukraine - is that something you don't like?
                  Not well, what you wrote is already a clinic. I have never read such nonsense here.
                  No, you already live at home "near Odessa", the svidomye remained in the Crimea without you, it is high time to send them to Ukraine, to the origins of their "love of freedom" ...
                  Hahahahah
                  1. +1
                    22 June 2021 19: 41
                    Quote: Antonio_Mariarti
                    If they didn’t get it, it was slander. Well, for people like you, this is the order of things. And before that there was no Internet?

                    Educate yourself, dreamer:
                    April 25 2014 11: 04
                    Crimea tied with Russia by an underwater fiber optic line
                    Rostelecom has built and commissioned an underwater fiber-optic communication line linking mainland Russia with Crimea. According to the head of the Ministry of Telecom and Mass Communications Nikolai Nikiforov, this line will cover the current needs of Crimea in communication services.

                    So what about the poor work of the Internet in Crimea, as you lied earlier?
                    Quote: Antonio_Mariarti
                    There is no Sberbank in Crimea, that is, only subsidiaries.

                    Again, lying, because Sberbank's daughters are not there - they existed under Svidomo power, and then Kiev robbed Sberbank and they were all closed. Now there "Russia" and RNKB rule and several smaller banks. Money from Sberbank is simply not given out by all ATMs in cash - there is such a problem. But why do you need cash, if the cards of Sberbank and all other Russian banks work in Crimea, even in the bazaar in tents, some have terminals?
                    Quote: Antonio_Mariarti
                    Is the budget of the Crimea a surplus or a deficit? How many ships were built in Crimea in 2020 and laid down?

                    Who told you that, for example, the Sochi Olympiad was done at the expense of the income of the Krasnodar Territory? Do you even know what an investment is and what is the return period? And two helicopter carriers, not counting the smaller ships, will be commissioned in 2027, and this makes us happy.
                    Quote: Antonio_Mariarti
                    I have never read such nonsense here.

                    I, too, have not met liars here, brazenly lying about the Crimea, having been there once, and even with Svidomo.
                    1. -3
                      22 June 2021 21: 34
                      April 5 2014 11: 04
                      Crimea tied with Russia by an underwater fiber optic line
                      Rostelecom built and commissioned an underwater fiber optic link connecting mainland Russia with Crimea. According to the head of the Ministry of Communications Nikolay Nikiforov, this line will cover the current needs of Crimea in communication services.
                      The fact is how Ukraine has cut off the Internet. And how are you with the mobile Internet connection. I wonder why Beeline, Megafon, MTS, when you come to Crimea, start counting your tariff on the international basis, did they really not recognize Crimea? (MTS found a solution, just Krasnodar will show on geolocation)) But what about the price? HM ... "Now the mobile operator Megafon for those who come to the peninsula with their own number automatically turns on the" Vacation without worries "service. Where unlimited incoming calls are available for 33 rubles per day and 60 Mb of Internet for 99 rubles. As for me , then the Internet is well, very little for that kind of money. " The only thing, by connecting via Wi-Fi to the Internet, geolocation will persistently show you that you are in Ukraine and some sites will not work without a VPN. For example, Google play, Apple play do not work. And to list a lot that affects the comfort of people, especially those under 30.
                      Again, lying, because Sberbank's daughters are not there - they existed under Svidomo power, and then Kiev robbed Sberbank and they were all closed.
                      Grandfather, I’m talking about raspberries, you’ll tell me about timber. The largest banks in Russia do not work there, but specially banks that are not oriented to the foreign market work (specially created from sanctions). How is the mobile application doing with the Bank of Russia? Why do you need the largest bank in Russia? Hmm, I don't even know. MB, due to the fact that you overpay for using other banks. Withdrawal interest, no cash for purchases, no mobile banking. This is normal? Although, judging by the dialogue, you are over 40, you are so unfamiliar. But young people still like ...
                      Who told you that, for example, the Sochi Olympiad was done at the expense of the income of the Krasnodar Territory
                      Question to question? Hahaha, so you don't know, eh ... So surplus or deficit? Sochi Olympics, which landscaping is falling apart? Not bad. Did the Olympics pay off? That is, two helicopters are laid down, proof will you throw off?
                      I, too, have not met liars here, brazenly lying about the Crimea, having been there once, and even with Svidomo.
                      Always amusing, as you call Ukrainians, oh, grandfather, get drunk!
                      1. 0
                        22 June 2021 22: 34
                        Quote: Antonio_Mariarti
                        And how are you with the mobile Internet connection.

                        Fine. I usually buy a SIM card "Waves" for a modem, and for a month I have been provided with mobile Internet.
                        Quote: Antonio_Mariarti
                        I wonder why Beeline, Megafon, MTS, when you come to Crimea, start counting your tariff on the international basis, did they really not recognize Crimea?

                        Well, do not fantasize, because if you do not use the Internet, then ordinary incoming calls are the same as in the rest of Russia. But I have a win-mobile SIM card and I've been using it for many years - the cheapness is awesome, you just don't know how to use mobile communications in Crimea.
                        Quote: Antonio_Mariarti
                        For example, Google play, Apple play do not work.

                        So these are the consequences of the blockade by the West - where are our technical capabilities?
                        Quote: Antonio_Mariarti
                        The largest banks in Russia do not work there, but specially banks that are not oriented towards the external market work.

                        What do you care if you don't work there at all? Or do you have a business in Crimea? By the way, do you even know who owns chain stores in Crimea Fresh, Silpo, Pud and how they work without your Google play, Apple play?
                        Quote: Antonio_Mariarti
                        MB, due to the fact that you overpay for using other banks.

                        I do not overpay anything, because I pay with a card and immediately receive an SMS that I am being charged for collection or VTB. All other commissions are the same as in the rest of Russia. Where did you get these wild fantasies?
                        Quote: Antonio_Mariarti
                        Withdrawal interest, no cash for purchases, no mobile banking.

                        Lying again - every month I add one percent to the deposit rate if I spend more than 15 thousand rubles in the Crimea or elsewhere.
                        Quote: Antonio_Mariarti
                        Although, judging by the dialogue, you are over 40, you are so unfamiliar. But young people still like ...

                        You are mistaken twice - both in age and in the fact that it seems to you that the older generation is dumber than you, since they do not know how to use gadgets. First, learn to make money like they do, and remove the senior bosses from their posts with your "diligence", then we'll see who has achieved what in this life. And your reasoning about the cash made me laugh - I don't count these pennies, and I never bought anything on credit in this life. Can you boast of that?
                        Quote: Antonio_Mariarti
                        Sochi Olympics, which landscaping is falling apart?

                        Do not evade the answer - the Olympiad was held only at the expense of the income of the Krasnodar Territory or not?
                        Quote: Antonio_Mariarti
                        That is, two helicopters are laid down, proof will you throw off?

                        Be educated, illiterate:
                        Jul 20, 2020 14:18 pmUpdated Jul 20, 2020 14:55 pm
                        Two universal amphibious assault helicopter carriers were laid down for the first time in Russia
                        They will receive the names "Ivan Rogov" and "Mitrofan Moskalenko"

                        Quote: Antonio_Mariarti
                        Always amusing, as you call Ukrainians, oh, grandfather, get drunk!

                        Lohanulsya again - you don't even know the Ukrainian language, and who are the Svidomo. And I don't need to get hungover - I just don't drink. But you use less snicker, otherwise your brains will completely atrophy ...
                      2. -2
                        22 June 2021 23: 39
                        Fine. I usually buy a SIM card "Waves" for a modem, and for a month I have been provided with mobile Internet.
                        Modem and mobile internet? Confused nothing?
                        Well, do not fantasize, because if you do not use the Internet, then ordinary incoming calls are the same as in the rest of Russia
                        In the 21st century, not using the Internet on your phone is strong! Well, yes, Krasnodar is determined by incoming and outgoing calls, not Crimea.
                        But I have a win-mobile SIM card and I have been using it for many years - the cheapness is awesome, you just don't know how to use mobile communications in Crimea.
                        Thank you, but I don’t live in Crimea to know your "Life-Hacks" And again you do not answer questions, you try to translate the topic, ah, ah. Don't need it! If you do not answer the questions, then I will end the discussion with you.
                        So these are the consequences of the blockade by the West - where are our technical capabilities?
                        The bottom line is that state-owned companies are not represented in Crimea, roaming in Crimea. Private traders are all the more afraid to work, only a series of subsidiaries or open through Ukraine. How are you doing with the water supply? How are the prices?
                        What do you care if you don't work there at all?
                        To know about what, do you need to work in this area? Logic for 5+ (no) Stop answering questions with questions, it's childish.
                        By the way, do you even know who owns chain stores in Crimea Fresh, Silpo
                        Yes, Ukrainians.
                        Pud and how do they work without your Google play, Apple play?
                        Clearly, you are not fumbling here, then I will omit the question.
                        I do not overpay anything, because I pay with a card and immediately receive an SMS that I am being charged for collection or VTB.
                        Once again, about cash withdrawals. And how are you doing translations? They did not answer that about the mobile bank .... Here is information from one information portal: 'Commissions for withdrawing cash from cards of Russian banks
                        Well, let's talk separately about what the commission will be when withdrawing cash from ATMs in Crimea.

                        From the Sberbank card, as we wrote above, the commission will be 1% on any withdrawal amount, except for RNKB ATMs;
                        It is a little easier for VTB Bank cardholders - they can withdraw money at any ATM in Russia without a commission, and in Crimea (in RNKB banks) this option also works. There is only one limitation: no more than 10 rubles for one operation;
                        If you are the owner of a Tinkoff card, then when you withdraw an amount above RUB 3, the commission will not be withdrawn. If the amount is less, the commission will be 000 rubles;
                        At Raiffeisen Bank, the commission will be 1% of the total withdrawal amount (at least 100 rubles);
                        Alfa Bank withdraws 1.25% of the commission (the minimum amount is 125 rubles);
                        If you are the owner of a Yandex.Money card, then you can withdraw no more than 10 thousand rubles per month without commission at any bank.
                        Total: to withdraw cash in Crimea, you need to keep a lot of information in your head. Therefore, if possible, try to withdraw as much cash in advance as possible in mainland Russia, and if you think that this will not work out for you, issue 2-3 Tinkoff cards for your family and go with them. Well, or put up with the Sberbank commission. And once again, if you do this does not mean that others do the same.
                        You are mistaken twice - both in age, and in the fact that it seems to you that the older generation is dumber than you, since they do not know how to use gadgets.
                        Not really 41? Sorry, you need to be softer with ancient people! Psss, I never wrote that we are smarter than you) Oh, your thinking about what is not))))
                        First, learn to make money like they do, and remove the senior bosses from their posts with your "diligence", then we'll see who has achieved what in this life
                        Open the composition of the ministers of the Russian Federation and see how many young people there are, and then think before you write)
                        And your reasoning about the cash made me laugh - I don't count these pennies, and I never bought anything on credit in this life. Can you boast of that?
                        Sorry, I didn’t know that Crimea is the island of Millionaires and people there do not take loans, nor do they need "free" money. I didn’t know, please understand and forgive!
                        Can you boast of that?
                        Yes, as a proger I can afford it.
                        Do not evade the answer - the Olympiad was held only at the expense of the income of the Krasnodar Territory or not?
                        HAHAHAHA, are you still telling me about not dodging an answer? Are you seriously? And nothing that I first asked you a question and you did not answer it, does this bother you? Come on, first you answer my questions, then I answer yours.
                        Lohanulsya again - you don't even know the Ukrainian language, and who are the svidomye
                        Uncle, what does the knowledge of the Ukrainian language have to do with it? Those who write this way are not particularly smart (apart from jokes)
                        here you use less snicker, otherwise your brains will completely atrophy ...
                        HAHAHAH, Shmal. Fig you remembered, you are definitely over 40 ...
                      3. 0
                        23 June 2021 11: 32
                        Quote: Antonio_Mariarti
                        Modem and mobile internet? Confused nothing?

                        I do not need to dig in the net on the beach - I do it elsewhere.
                        Quote: Antonio_Mariarti
                        Well, yes, Krasnodar is determined by incoming and outgoing calls, not Crimea.

                        And you didn’t even know that, and you were pushing something else about Crimea ...
                        Quote: Antonio_Mariarti
                        Once again, about cash withdrawals.

                        I don't need this - I take a little cash for a month and that's enough for me, because I pay with a card everywhere.
                        Quote: Antonio_Mariarti
                        From the Sberbank card, as we wrote above, the commission will be 1% on any withdrawal amount, except for RNKB ATMs;

                        Buy a rooster in the Crimean bazaar and fool him eggs with your pitiful interest, I don't bother with this at all.
                        Quote: Antonio_Mariarti
                        Total: to withdraw cash in Crimea, you need to keep a lot of information in your head.

                        And why cash, I do not sell drugs, and a few bank cards are enough for me to comfortably rest in Crimea. Recently, by the way, the RNBK card was closed, I needed it several years ago, in connection with the repair. This is all in the past now - so why do you need cash? To show off something or you wanted to scratch your tongue, you are our advanced ...
                        Quote: Antonio_Mariarti
                        Open the composition of the ministers of the Russian Federation and see how many young people there are, and then think before you write)

                        Only fools look at it, and smart people look at the team. But there is a completely different picture.
                        Quote: Antonio_Mariarti
                        I didn’t know, please understand and forgive!

                        I forgive your ignorance - just keep in mind that prices have risen in Crimea and there many wealthy people buy their own homes in order to live peacefully on retirement. I know ten such people from those with whom I communicate. By the way, one recently started selling housing in Bulgaria and urgently buying housing in Crimea - that's what the coronavirus and sanctions have done to our citizens.
                        Quote: Antonio_Mariarti
                        Those who write this way are not particularly smart (apart from jokes)

                        You certainly flashed here, though with your ignorance and lies about the Crimea.
                        Quote: Antonio_Mariarti
                        Schmal. Fig you remembered, you are definitely over 40 ...

                        You need to know our history, foreign agitator ...
            2. +2
              22 June 2021 18: 52
              don't listen to him !! in general, he says that the dollar was again at 40 it is necessary to return the Crimea.
              dissatisfied in Crimea, only those who were unrestrained in Ukraine and did not comply with the laws
              1. -3
                22 June 2021 19: 22
                Quote: Nastia Makarova
                don't listen to him !! in general, he says that the dollar was again at 40 it is necessary to return the Crimea.
                dissatisfied in Crimea, only those who were unrestrained in Ukraine and did not comply with the laws

                Your analysis is bad, where I spoke about the dollar over 40 and that Crimea should be returned? Although, judging by your mistakes - the answer is on the face.
              2. -3
                23 June 2021 11: 34
                "he generally says that the Crimea must be returned to the dollar again at 40"
                in fact, the doler then, before the Crimea, was 30
  4. +1
    21 June 2021 04: 40
    We made a big mistake with vaccinations. It was necessary to inflate rumors about the shortage of the vaccine, that only the elite are vaccinated, but it is possible, with great difficulty through pull. Or paid. Even on credit. Now in Russia there would be 70 percent of the vaccinated and each of them would think that he is cool.
    Although many people know that foreigners buy vaccination tours to the Russian Federation.
    1. +14
      21 June 2021 07: 20
      Quote: Tank jacket
      Now in Russia there would be 70 percent of vaccinated

      Didn't you think that there are a lot of questions about the vaccine and the need for universal vaccination?
      Here are the main ones in my opinion -
      1) According to manufacturers, the vaccine does not guarantee against infection, it only reduces the likelihood of complications and alleviates the severity of the course of the disease. Only(!). Respectively the vaccinated person is also the spread of the disease.
      2) Most virologists claim that the risk group for Covid 19 is 60+. Until the age of 30, the disease proceeds like a regular flu.
      Against this background, Ginzburg's words about the need to reduce the age threshold for vaccination to 12-13 years look ridiculous. What for?!!!
      The long-term effects of the vaccine have not been studied at all, why all in a row, forcibly? !!
      3) How can a vaccine created against Covid 19 (Wuhan strain) protect against an Indian strain, which is positioned as little studied?
      This is so offhand questions. If you think about it, there will be more questions.
      So who needs 60, 70 and more percent and why?
      These are simple questions.
      1. -8
        21 June 2021 08: 06
        "it only reduces the likelihood of complications and alleviates the severity of the disease."
        Tell us about the complications?
        "So who needs 60, 70 and more percent and why?"
        These are simple questions "
        Israel ... China, EU, USA ...
        1. +6
          21 June 2021 08: 13
          Quote: Tank jacket
          Israel ... China, EU, USA ...

          Do you think that no one is asking these questions there?
          Is it easier to point a finger at the rest than to answer obvious questions for a sane person? wink
          1. -4
            21 June 2021 08: 33
            Nothing was written about complications ... wink
            1. +12
              21 June 2021 08: 49
              Quote: Tank jacket
              Nothing was written about complications ...

              Should have? Do I dispute their presence?
              In addition, complications from some types of flu and other types of acute respiratory viral infections are no easier than from Covid. Any doctor knows this.
              Why do you "technically" evade elementary questions?
              1. 0
                22 June 2021 08: 56
                Here's an answer from Sylvester a year earlier ...

          2. -9
            21 June 2021 09: 07
            "Do you think that no one is asking these questions there?"
            Let someone be asked, but are they vaccinated?
            What is the percentage of vaccinated people in Israel and what is the increase in the number of cases there?
            1. +9
              21 June 2021 09: 09
              Quote: Tank jacket
              What is the percentage of vaccinated people in Israel and what is the increase in the number of cases there?

              What does Israel have to do with it? Is he somehow mentioned in my questions?
              Why are you jolting and taking the topic aside?
            2. +1
              22 June 2021 11: 27
              Quote: Tank jacket
              What is the percentage of vaccinated people in Israel and what is the increase in the number of cases there?

              And this is for you to lubricate the gray matter - solve the problem, opus specialist


              This is vaccination
              And this


              morbidity and mortality. What are the explanations for these facts? Hope you know the Rt index laughing
        2. +4
          21 June 2021 10: 17
          Quote: Tank jacket
          Tell us about the complications?
          "So who needs 60, 70 and more percent and why?"
          These are simple questions "
          Israel ... China, EU, USA ...

          Reinforced concrete argument .... at first glance.
          We begin the analysis of this reinforced concrete.
          1. USA... Yes, indeed the States carry out mass vaccinations, but what ...! Pfizer and Modern. It is impossible to compare Pfizer and Modern with Sputnik, it's like comparing BMW and Zhiguli. Vaccination is voluntary and based on clarification and human stimulation.
          Further. From vaccines, which are recognized as the best in the world (WHO) in the United States, 4 reports of side effects from vaccination were officially registered on June 329, of which 021 deaths, 5 people were hospitalized, 888 urgently needed medical attention, to a doctor 19 597 people applied.
          Some complications: anaphylactic shock was experienced by 1 people, 459 had a severe allergic reaction, 15 women had miscarriages, 052 people had heart problems. A sharp jump in mortality occurred after they began to vaccinate young people and children - pensioners and older people received the vaccine in the winter.
          A simple question arises - "BMW" turned out to be rotten. What then can you think about the quality of the Zhiguli?
          How then should one interpret the words of one BMW researcher - "we were wrong" https://www.nakanune.ru/news/2021/06/11/22605215/.
          2.Israel... Yes, also a rampant vaccination, the enemy is defeated. BUT! Why did the number of deaths increase 2 times since the beginning of vaccination? !!
          The answer is simple - see the experience of the USA, vaccines are the same.
          Let's look at the other side. Around Israel, countries (Lebanon, Jordan, Palestine) did not carry out mass vaccinations - there were quarantine measures and bans. You can think of Israel and these countries as two groups of a large vaccination experiment. Bottom line. Israel conquered disease. And what about the control group? We look at the statistics.



          The result in the main and control groups of the experiment is the same. The question arises, where does the vaccine have to do with it?
          3. EC... It's interesting here too. In Europe, they mainly use AstraZeneca, an analogue of Sputnik. What's in the balance? We look at -https: //www.kla.tv/18974 and read "In Italy, an investigation was launched over the death of a girl after the AstraZeneca vaccination" https://iz.ru/1177392/2021-06-11/v-italii-nachali -rassledovanie-iz-za-smerti-devushki-posle-privivki-astrazeneca.
          What do we see? - The vaccinated die from vaccines. This is a fact and no one can dispute it.
          Question. And then what about Sputnik, an analogue of AstraZeneca?
          But the answer is SILENCE! Why's that?
          4. China Mass vaccination is under the leadership of the CPC vaccine CoronaVac with a killed virus... This is a FUNDAMENTAL discrepancy with other vaccines that use a modified or genetically modified virus. And what is happening in China knows only Comrade. Xi, since the country is closed in terms of information on covid.
          Bottom line. Everywhere there are complications and deaths after being vaccinated with the most recognized vaccines. The simple logic of common sense asks the question, what about us? How?
          And we have SILENCE and TERROR! The state lied, lies to the country and does not consider it necessary to start a conversation with the population on the most pressing issues. The population is garbage for power. And the main obstacle to vaccination in Russia is the question of trust in the authorities. Instead of dialogue, "bend", "force", "where are you going to go", ie tightening the nut. Doesn't the government think that by September the thread will rip off?
          And further! If we have an Indian strain, then why:
          1.saved flights with India
          2. new flights with other countries are being opened
          3. mortality per 100 thousand cases in India is almost 3 times less than in Russia now?

          After answering these questions, there will be a result and not otherwise!
          1. -5
            21 June 2021 10: 34
            "San Marino became the first country in Europe to defeat the coronavirus. The use of the Russian Sputnik V vaccine has reduced the infection rate to zero," TASS reports, citing the Russian Direct Investment Fund (RDIF).
            It is noted that the country has carried out the most successful vaccination campaign in Europe.
            "The average daily morbidity in the country for seven days in terms of one million of the population from May 3 to 9 is more than 40 times lower than the average for the EU countries," the RDIF said, saying that on average for a week in April, 250 cases of coronavirus infection.
            Since May 4, no cases of COVID-19 infection have been recorded in San Marino. Mortality is also not observed. In the region, restrictions related to the pandemic began to be lifted, economic recovery and a return to normal life accelerated.
            ------
            Austria is negotiating with Russia on a possible purchase of the Sputnik V vaccine or cooperation in production if it is certified by the European Medicines Agency (EMA), Chancellor Sebastian Kurz said.
            -----
            Estonian President announced that the country can purchase Sputnik V after its approval in the EU
            Earlier, Prime Minister Kaya Kallas said the government would consider using the Russian vaccine if approved by the European Medicines Agency.
            ----
            Second EU country approves Sputnik V vaccination
            After a protracted political scandal and a long trial, the Slovak authorities still gave the go-ahead for a mass vaccination with the help of a Russian vaccine.
            ------
            And you, Sylvester, have already taken root?
            I am vaccinated Sputnik V. Free of charge, without queues, in the clinic where I indicated.
            1. +8
              21 June 2021 10: 37
              Quote: Tank jacket
              And you, Sylvester, have already taken root?

              no.

              Quote: Tank jacket
              I am vaccinated Sputnik V. Free of charge, without queues, in the clinic where I indicated.

              Happy for you. better answer the questions
              1. -7
                21 June 2021 10: 43
                It's not good to cheat, Sylvester, you are a Crimean Doctor. Why didn't you get vaccinated? Disorder ... bully
                I'll have to take it on a pencil ...
                1. +2
                  21 June 2021 10: 50
                  Quote: Tank jacket
                  Cheating is not good, Sylvester, you are a Crimean Doctor. Why didn't you get vaccinated? Disorder ... bully
                  I'll have to take it on a pencil ...

                  I don't care about your pencil. I live and work in Moscow. I'm not one of these

                  used to think
                  1. -12
                    21 June 2021 11: 10
                    Eyes running around ... nervous? bully
                    In the testimony you get confused, then the doctor, then not the doctor. That Crimean, then Moscow ... Marcel Marceau did not say anything to you?
                    So, what should we do with you?
                    The last traditional question remains, Sylvester. What is your mother's nationality?
                    1. +3
                      21 June 2021 11: 18
                      Quote: Tank jacket
                      Eyes running ... nervous? bully
                      In the testimony you get confused, then the doctor, then not the doctor. That Crimean, then Moscow ... Marcel Marceau did not say anything to you?

                      and if you think about it? Can a person move, live not where he was born? Insanity?
                      Quote: Tank jacket
                      So, what should we do with you?

                      Are you the navel of the Earth? Do not step wide, the fly will not burst
                      Quote: Tank jacket
                      The last traditional question remains, Sylvester. What is your mother's nationality?

                      Russian.

                      Find my small homeland on today's map.
                      Your argument looks like the argument of an inferior person and I'm not surprised, for some reason!
            2. +1
              21 June 2021 11: 33
              This is how lucky you are. And in our town there was panic, excitement and storming. On the one hand, they are being driven to get vaccinated, on the other hand, even paid tests in some sort of Helix are only by appointment for a few days with huge queues. The queues for vaccinations are like perestroika for potatoes (the bosses drove the workers to get vaccinated). In general, it's like changing tires on "tinsmith's day".

              Plus, the media write (and there are rumors among the people) that they do not inject a normal vaccine, but all sorts of nonsense. That, knowing the corruption of our pharmaceutical doctors and their dependence on reporting, raises some doubts
            3. +5
              21 June 2021 12: 27
              "San Marino became the first country in Europe to defeat the coronavirus. The use of the Russian Sputnik V vaccine has reduced the infection rate to zero," TASS reports, citing the Russian Direct Investment Fund (RDIF).
              It is noted that the country has carried out the most successful vaccination campaign in Europe.
              “The average daily morbidity in the country for seven days in terms of one million of the population from May 3 to 9 is more than 40 times lower than the average for the EU countries,” the RDIF said, reporting that on average 250 cases of coronavirus infection "
              we have 100 times more people living in our region than in san marino, and the numbers for the carriers are practically the same. so where does the vaccine have to do with it?
          2. +2
            21 June 2021 13: 28
            Quote: Silvestr
            Doesn't the government think that by September the thread will rip off?

            And where will the slaves go? Will go to vote for 10 thousand re per child and shawarma. Well, the other administrative resource with 146 percent fraud has not been canceled.
          3. -1
            22 June 2021 08: 44
            Answers, Sylvester from the past ... wassat
      2. -2
        21 June 2021 08: 20
        Quote: Ingvar 72
        What for?!!!

        what Igor, did not even imagine that you are still working as a lobbyist for the Central Asian republics ?!
        1. +3
          21 June 2021 08: 53
          Quote: Serg65
          a lobbyist for the Central Asian republics ?!

          A subtle hint that we will all die out? Then the answer is, does Covid take the residents of the Central Asian republics? wink
          Sergei, you seem to be an intelligent person, but after the Tank jacket, instead of replies, you sprinkle Channel One templates.
          Although the questions are topical.
          1. 0
            21 June 2021 09: 14
            Quote: Ingvar 72
            A subtle hint that we are all going to die out?

            Quite right, more Russians will die, more seats will be vacated for Asians!
            Quote: Ingvar 72
            residents of the Central Asian republics Covid does not take?

            They give birth more and do not bother with the "European traditions" that occupied the heads of modern Russians, by the way, you were also noticed in helping this occupation!
            Quote: Ingvar 72
            Sergei, you seem to be an intelligent person

            laughing Zhana thinks so too ..
            Quote: Ingvar 72
            after the Tank jacket, instead of replies, pour the templates of the First Channel

            Those. Are you quite satisfied with the recent Indian developments in the covid situation? If so, then why all this conversation?
            Quote: Ingvar 72
            Although the questions are topical.

            You are for communism ... although you are a monarchist ...? So in my happy Soviet childhood, neither me nor my parents were asked if we wanted to be vaccinated against smallpox, chickenpox and rubella ... the party said it was necessary, that's it ... the conversation is over !!!
            1. +3
              21 June 2021 09: 29
              Quote: Serg65
              Those. Are you quite satisfied with the recent Indian developments in the covid situation? If so, then why all this conversation?

              Question √3 in the first comment.
              Quote: Serg65
              So in my happy Soviet childhood

              The problem is that now it is not happy, not Soviet, and not childhood.
              1. 0
                21 June 2021 09: 57
                Quote: Ingvar 72
                The problem is that now it is not happy, not Soviet, and not childhood.

                Those. then coercion was good, but now this coercion is bad?
                1. +1
                  21 June 2021 09: 59
                  Sergei, I answered you in essence, why are you leaving in particular, not related to the case?
                  1. 0
                    21 June 2021 10: 41
                    what Hmm .... you answered that childhood is no longer Soviet!
                    Quote: Ingvar 72
                    Question √3 in the first comment.

                    Well, about this ...
                    Quote: Ingvar 72
                    How can a vaccine created against Covid 19 (Wuhan strain) protect against an Indian strain, which is marketed as little studied?

                    Those. instead of studying this issue yourself, you urge me to conduct an educational program for you? Igor, you don't want to be vaccinated, for God's sake! No one will force you to go against your principles at gunpoint! Well, if you are a state employee, then the state, as an employer, has the right to demand that you comply with the rules established by the employer! If you are not satisfied with these rules, you have the right to choose another job with the rules that suit you personally! What is the problem here? The freedom to choose a job is yours, my friend! wink
                    1. +5
                      21 June 2021 10: 44
                      Quote: Serg65
                      The freedom to choose a job is yours, my friend!

                      Cynical, but here you are right.
                      But this dastardly approach, at least.
                      1. -1
                        21 June 2021 12: 36
                        Quote: Ingvar 72
                        this sneaky approach

                        What is meanness?
                        The employer wants his employees to be alive and well, is this considered mean?
                      2. +4
                        21 June 2021 12: 46
                        Quote: Serg65
                        The employer wants his employees to be alive and well

                        First of all, the employer wants that he would not be fined from scratch.
                      3. +5
                        21 June 2021 13: 07
                        Quote: Ingvar 72
                        First of all, the employer wants that he would not be fined from scratch.

                        Of course he doesn’t want to .... you got sick, you got to work, you infected others. The company is closed for two weeks, which employer needs such a crap?
                      4. +3
                        21 June 2021 14: 16
                        Rolled out the opponent, krasaucheg good
                      5. +3
                        21 June 2021 20: 47
                        Quote: Ingvar 72
                        But this dastardly approach, at least.

                        This "dastardly approach" has been flourishing for a long time. For example: a sailor will remain on the shore without a yellow fever vaccine (at least), malaria pills - on receipt. It just touched you personally only now, so you feel uncomfortable. Nothing, you will get used to it ...
                      6. -1
                        21 June 2021 22: 17
                        Quote: Motorist
                        the sailor will remain on the shore without yellow fever vaccination (at least), malaria pills - on receipt

                        Is the risk ratio of yellow fever, malaria comparable to that of Covid19? Not. Why then?
                        Quote: Motorist
                        It just touched you personally only now, so you feel uncomfortable.

                        It's just that now it has affected the entire population.
                      7. +4
                        21 June 2021 22: 32
                        Are you doing risk assessment? I personally am skeptical about the modern methodology of this process [to put it mildly]. In general, to be honest, I did not quite understand you: yellow fever is in the tropics, and covid is everywhere; therefore, it concerns everyone and everywhere - that is the whole logic. Everyone will get used to it over time.
                      8. +1
                        22 June 2021 09: 26
                        Quote: Motorist
                        Are you doing risk assessment?

                        No, but I am able to understand that malaria is more dangerous than the coronavirus. hi
                      9. +3
                        22 June 2021 12: 23
                        Quote: Motorist
                        It just touched you personally only now, so you feel uncomfortable. Nothing, you will get used to it ...

                        You will not prove anything to these sufferers, because they have no idea how many different vaccinations my brother received in forty years of walking in the seas. By the way, now his grandson has just done all the vaccinations, making out to the sea - a week ago he went for seven months to carry the forest from our north, and no one is outraged, because they understand what can be picked up there.
            2. +4
              21 June 2021 11: 43
              Quote: Serg65
              So in my happy Soviet childhood, neither me nor my parents were asked if we wanted to be vaccinated against smallpox, chickenpox and rubella ... the party said it was necessary, that's it ... the conversation is over !!!

              This former Crimean doctor, and it is not clear who now, has completely "forgotten" that in the USSR, not only were they vaccinated in childhood, but they were administered so much to all sailors abroad that the current one from covid would seem like child's play. Moreover, all civilian and military specialists and their families were necessarily vaccinated when leaving for certain countries, like embassy workers.
              And now, all of a sudden, everyone fell into hysterics, how is it possible to die from vaccination. Over the past few months, I have buried two of my comrades from covid, and have had a few illnesses in both severe and mild conditions. And for some reason they immediately change their attitude to vaccinations, apparently until the rooster bites, we are all in the clouds.
              1. 0
                21 June 2021 12: 39
                Quote: ccsr
                until the cock bites, we are all in the clouds.

                Or deliberately forcing others to fly in the clouds, having taken the vaccine ourselves?
                1. +1
                  21 June 2021 12: 51
                  Quote: Serg65
                  Or deliberately forcing others to fly in the clouds, having taken the vaccine ourselves?

                  And such an option is not excluded, especially since all practicing medicine in Moscow was obliged to be vaccinated last year, and our Crimean doctor avoided this. It's somehow suspicious ...
                  1. +3
                    21 June 2021 12: 58
                    Quote: ccsr
                    our Crimean doctor avoided this.

                    Who is obliged? I personally know three doctors who, in principle, do not vaccinate. Everyone works, even though they talk about pressure. One of them is a phthisiatrician, that is, a lung specialist.
                    1. +3
                      21 June 2021 15: 45
                      I personally know three doctors who, in principle, do not vaccinate. Let them not do it - that's only when it’s already latently thinking.
                      1. +1
                        21 June 2021 16: 05
                        Quote: Vadim237
                        Let them not do it - that's only when it’s already latently thinking.

                        Not when, but if. These are different concepts. You, Vadik, can go all over like a hedgehog - blessed are those who believe.
                        I have identified three simple questions that raise doubts for any sane person. But only zaputintsy oppose me, justifying any vypry of power. And they oppose not with logic, but with emotions, associations and patterns. You see the crisis of intelligence! laughing
                        You'd better advocate a ban on palm oil - mortality from cancer is higher than from coronavirus.
                    2. -2
                      21 June 2021 17: 16
                      Quote: Ingvar 72
                      I personally know three doctors who, in principle, do not vaccinate.

                      They are probably immortal, like Duncan Macleod.
                      I know other doctors, they are calmly vaccinated and do not worry about it.
                  2. 0
                    21 June 2021 18: 05
                    Quote: ccsr
                    all the more so since all practicing medicine in Moscow was obliged to be vaccinated last year, and our Crimean doctor avoided this. It's somehow suspicious ...

                    Do not write nonsense. No vaccinations were given to doctors in Moscow last year. The process has begun now. But for the development of gray matter and understanding the process, I recommend that you study the Resolution of the Chief Sanitary Doctor for Moscow No. 1 dated June 15, 2021.
                    Then you will have less suspicion, but more knowledge.
                    1. +1
                      21 June 2021 18: 39
                      Quote: Silvestr
                      No vaccinations were given to doctors in Moscow last year. The process has begun now.

                      I realized that you definitely do not live in Moscow:
                      24 September 2020 in 18: 33
                      Sobyanin spoke about the vaccination of Moscow doctors from coronavirus
                      Vaccination started on September 15, 2020
                      In Moscow, on September 15 this year, voluntary vaccination of medical workers began in health care institutions. According to the mayor of Moscow Sergei Sobyanin, several thousand doses of the vaccine have entered the civilian circulation. The vaccine is directed primarily to medical personnel, namely to district doctors and general practitioners.

                      So who are you Dr. Silvestr, inject and surrender passwords and signups.
                      Quote: Silvestr
                      I recommend that you study the Resolution of the Chief Sanitary Doctor for Moscow No. 1 dated June 15, 2021.
                      Then you will have less suspicion, but more knowledge.

                      The excuse will not work - the vaccination of medical personnel has been going on for nine months in Moscow, and you did not know about it. It's strange, why did you invent such a cheap legend for yourself?
                      1. -4
                        21 June 2021 21: 49
                        Showered, Sylvester, swam ... laughing We need to squeeze ...
                      2. +2
                        21 June 2021 22: 24
                        Quote: Tank jacket
                        Showered, Sylvester, swam ... laughing We need to squeeze ...

                        laughing The booster will not burst?
                      3. -4
                        21 June 2021 23: 52
                        And what will burst with you? ... bully
                      4. 0
                        22 June 2021 00: 19
                        Quote: Tank jacket
                        And what will burst with you? ...

                        Will not burst laughing
                      5. -1
                        21 June 2021 22: 24
                        Quote: ccsr
                        In Moscow on September 15 this year in health care institutions voluntary vaccination started medical professionals.

                        Didn't you notice the word voluntary? wink
                        Yes, in fact it is voluntary and compulsory, but those who have testicles defend their position. Experienced doctors in medicine are now in short supply, and the chief doctors, thank God, are smarter than some, because, contrary to the government's formulas, people are not brought to dismissal.
                      6. 0
                        22 June 2021 11: 48
                        Quote: Ingvar 72
                        Didn't you notice the word voluntary?

                        You are a big eccentric, as I can see, and apparently you do not understand well that in government agencies the word "voluntarily" is understood as a guide to action.
                        Quote: Ingvar 72
                        Yes, in fact it is voluntary and compulsory,

                        Well, finally, samples of sanity began to hatch.
                        Quote: Ingvar 72
                        Experienced doctors in medicine are now in short supply, and the chief doctors, thank God, are smarter than some, because, contrary to the government's formulas, people are not brought to dismissal.

                        For a start, they demonstrate the need for vaccination by their own example, and the subordinates decide whether to refuse after that, or to act as the chief physician. The second is chosen by most of the practitioners in government agencies - I think so, because discipline in the Ministry of Health has not been canceled, this is not show business.
                      7. -2
                        22 June 2021 17: 14
                        Quote: ccsr
                        You are a big eccentric, as I can see, and apparently you do not understand well that in government agencies the word "voluntarily" is understood as a guide to action.

                        You are even bigger if you consider this to be the norm. The principle of voluntarily must be observed in state structures in the first place. It is the state structures that are the benchmark that everyone else is looking at. And the head of state is a complete eccentric (m?), If he turns a blind eye to the undermining of the constitutional rights of citizens precisely by state structures.
                        He says one thing and does another. However, after the pension reform, I am confident in this definition.
                      8. +3
                        22 June 2021 17: 34
                        Quote: Ingvar 72
                        And the head of state is a complete eccentric (m?), If he turns a blind eye to the undermining of the constitutional rights of citizens precisely by state structures.
                        He says one thing and does another.

                        And Putin himself took root, as the 65+ restrictions were removed - you are simply behind the times. Do officials in our country then have to refuse vaccination? If you do not want to do it, and thereby discredit domestic medicine - get out of the chair, and this is the only way to deal with everyone in government positions. I would only welcome such a purge, otherwise many of us stayed too long, it would be time to remember about the administrative power at the very top, and act accordingly.
                      9. -2
                        22 June 2021 18: 42
                        Quote: ccsr
                        And Putin himself took root, as the 65+ restrictions were lifted - you just fell behind life

                        Unlike Western "partners" and Catherine the Great, he "did" it quietly. Remind Stanislavsky's phrase?
                        Quote: ccsr
                        thereby discrediting domestic medicine

                        It was discredited by the Putin government. The fish rots from the head. And the cleansing must start from the head.
                        PS By the manner of communication, I am sure that you are not 60.
                      10. +3
                        22 June 2021 19: 00
                        Quote: Ingvar 72
                        Unlike Western "partners" and Catherine the Great, he "did" it quietly. Remind Stanislavsky's phrase?

                        This is just an illiterate lie, because if they wanted to hide the truth, then in full view of everyone, as was the case with Zelensky, some saline solution would be injected, and that would be the end of it. But you may not believe - if you are so calmer.
                        Quote: Ingvar 72

                        It was discredited by the Putin government. The fish rots from the head. And the cleansing must start from the head.

                        This is a heinous lie - on the contrary, the authorities are begging people to get vaccinated for their own good, and some mean people, on the contrary, make stuffing that this cannot be done. How a local "Crimean doctor" discredits Russian medicine, for example ...
                      11. -1
                        22 June 2021 19: 33
                        Quote: ccsr
                        It's just an illiterate lie

                        You are really a child, if you say that. In your opinion, the quietly expanding (?) Putin is more credible than openly Western politicians? I understand perfectly well that both those and others can become star (from the word of a star), but for some reason for you a traitor and a person who does not keep his word is more authoritative. The question is why. I believe that you are a common troll with a salary less than 35 years old, although you say that you are over 60.
                      12. 0
                        22 June 2021 19: 51
                        Quote: Ingvar 72
                        You are really a child, if you say that. In your opinion, the quietly expanding (?) Putin is more credible than openly Western politicians?

                        It’s you a child, because if he had not been vaccinated, it is possible that someone would have blabbed a few years later, and this would have been a blow to his historical image. Do you seriously believe that Putin is capable of petty fraud? You are just an eccentric and never understand the psychology of these people - he wants to remain in the history of Russia as Peter the Great or Stalin, and you compare him with Shura Balaganov. Honestly, I had a better opinion about your thinking abilities, but it's good that you showed them - it becomes clear what kind of unique people they write here, there will be less disappointment.
                        Quote: Ingvar 72
                        I believe that you are a common salary troll, less than 35 years old, although you say that you are over 60.

                        You can think whatever, but there are a few people here who know who I am, and I earn money by my work in a completely different place. It just gives me pleasure to expose all sorts of crooks hanging out here, and I can afford it as a hobby.
                      13. -2
                        22 June 2021 20: 41
                        Quote: ccsr
                        Do you seriously believe that Putin is capable of petty fraud?

                        I don't believe, I know. And I know he's capable of major fraud. laughing
                        Quote: ccsr
                        You can think whatever, but there are a few people here who know who I am, and I earn money by my work in a completely different place.

                        Trolls like you? This is easy to verify - I am a real person, and I write from my convictions. And I am a law-abiding citizen. Therefore, I am ready to exchange chic information with a phone number. And talk in real life. Weak?
                        PS How many children do you have?
                      14. +1
                        22 June 2021 22: 07
                        Quote: Ingvar 72
                        I don't believe, I know. And I know he's capable of major fraud.

                        Do not equate your psychology with his - maybe you could, but he is already higher than that, you just saw little of life.
                        Quote: Ingvar 72
                        And talk in real life. Weak?

                        You are not interesting to me. If a person cannot express thoughts competently textually, then what is the use of communicating with him on the phone - you don't consider yourself a blonde in order to chat incessantly?
                        Quote: Ingvar 72
                        Trolls like you?

                        I don’t think so. But smarter than you, that's for sure ...
                      15. -1
                        23 June 2021 17: 28
                        Quote: ccsr
                        You are not interesting to me

                        Q.E.D. It will fly to you from above, for your "work". There is such a concept - the effect of reward.
                      16. 0
                        23 June 2021 19: 17
                        Quote: Ingvar 72
                        It will fly to you from above, for your "work". There is such a concept - the effect of reward.

                        At least I do it unselfishly, but how many bucks are you getting for your work on this forum? Or do you get "thirty" in hryvnia?
                        P.S. I wonder why you are interested in personal data, especially since you can already learn it from my texts? Just don't tell me that it just happened ...
                      17. -1
                        23 June 2021 19: 53
                        Selflessly destructive policies are not justified.
                      18. +2
                        21 June 2021 22: 25
                        Quote: ccsr
                        ccsr (ccsr)

                        Quote: Silvestr
                        No vaccinations were given to doctors in Moscow last year. The process has begun now.

                        I realized that you definitely do not live in Moscow:
                        24 September 2020 in 18: 33
                        Sobyanin spoke about the vaccination of Moscow doctors from coronavirus
                        Vaccination started on September 15, 2020
                        In Moscow, on September 15 this year, voluntary vaccination of medical workers began in health care institutions. According to the mayor of Moscow Sergei Sobyanin, several thousand doses of the vaccine have entered the civilian circulation. The vaccine is directed primarily to medical personnel, namely to district doctors and general practitioners.

                        So who are you Dr. Silvestr, inject and surrender passwords and signups.
                        Quote: Silvestr
                        I recommend that you study the Resolution of the Chief Sanitary Doctor for Moscow No. 1 dated June 15, 2021.
                        Then you will have less suspicion, but more knowledge.

                        The excuse will not work - the vaccination of medical personnel has been going on for nine months in Moscow, and you did not know about it. It's strange, why did you invent such a cheap legend for yourself?

                        Another stoned one. Knowledge is zero, attempts are like in a toilet

                        Go and shoot yourself in grief laughing
                      19. 0
                        22 June 2021 11: 52
                        Quote: Silvestr
                        Go and shoot yourself in grief

                        So this is for 2018, and it is not clear to whom and for what it was given - then there was still no coronavirus. I also have similar gratitude from the officials of the council, and I know how they are stamped. So the legend will not work for an experienced specialist ...
                    2. 0
                      22 June 2021 15: 07
                      From the study Resolution of the Chief Sanitary Doctor in Moscow No. 1 dated June 15, 2021. knowledge will not be added. None. But the confidence that officials have gone all out of their way out of impunity and are committing lawlessness will surely increase.
              2. +1
                21 June 2021 18: 07
                Quote: ccsr
                This former Crimean doctor, and it is not clear who now, has completely "forgotten" that in the USSR, not only were they vaccinated in childhood, but they were administered so much to all sailors abroad that the current one from covid would seem like child's play. Moreover, all civilian and military specialists and their families were necessarily vaccinated when leaving for certain countries, like embassy workers.

                Smart ass! Where is it written by me? Blah blah?
                1. -3
                  21 June 2021 21: 51
                  Raise old folders for 2020, Sylvester, about your stories about how you treat people in Crimea without a breath and they say there are not enough beds?
                  It's already good to carry a blizzard, like Peskov by God ...
                  ------
                  "Fresh fish, fresh fish, fresh fish" (c) h.f. "The Shawshank Redemption".
                  1. +2
                    21 June 2021 22: 23
                    Quote: Tank jacket
                    Raise old folders for 2020, Sylvester, about your stories about how you treat people in Crimea without a breath and they say there are not enough beds?

                    Do not carry nonsense or pick up your folders laughing
                    1. -3
                      21 June 2021 23: 41


                      Are you talking about nonsense again? laughing
                      1. +1
                        22 June 2021 00: 18
                        So what? I lived in Crimea until 1998. Until January of this year, my mother lived in the Crimea, and every year I lived for 2 months in the Crimea, with my mother. Everything that is given corresponds to reality - that's how it was. So we tried in vain. laughing
                  2. +2
                    22 June 2021 06: 28
                    Quote: Tank jacket
                    Bring up old folders

                    In them, Sylvester defines himself as an anesthesiologist, and a surgeon is literate. belay ... left!
                    1. +3
                      22 June 2021 07: 17
                      And the reader and the reaper and the player on the tune ...
                      It seems to me that he is just a paid propagandist ...
                      Last year, I was surprised at the high mortality rate from covids of our doctors in comparison with Italian ones, but at the same time he was not vaccinated and drowned so that no one was vaccinated.
                      He is also an assistant professor

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                      2. +1
                        22 June 2021 11: 07
                        The most interesting question is not who I am, but who are you really? And what is your goal? Why would an ordinary doctor throw mud at the Russian Federation and demonstrate Russophobia in almost every post?
                      3. -2
                        22 June 2021 11: 13
                        Quote: Tank jacket
                        Why would an ordinary doctor throw mud at the Russian Federation and demonstrate Russophobia in almost every post?

                        Not the Russian Federation, but the authorities, for you there is no difference. For a normal person, there is.
                        Quote: Tank jacket
                        The most interesting question is not who I am, but who are you really? And what is your goal?

                        Who am I, look at the letter from Sobyanin. My goal is to show a normal person what to think before taking medicine. True rams do not think, they have a herd feeling
                      4. -1
                        22 June 2021 23: 41
                        Sylvester, here on VO I read your opuses about the "bloody regime" of the Novice who sent Cicero, and about the fact that the SP-2 will never be completed. And about the fact that by the fall of 2020 the people will grab the pitchfork and about how you supported the riots in Belarus So the question remains open. The purpose of your stay at VO?
                        Bring up folders? Refresh?
                      5. 0
                        23 June 2021 10: 48
                        Quote: Tank jacket
                        I read your opuses about the "bloody regime" of the Novice who sent Cicero, and about the fact that the SP-2 will never be completed. And about the fact that people will grab the pitchfork by the fall of 2020 and about how you supported the riots in Belarus

                        Right. I stand by my opinion, because I believe the facts, and not the zombie
                      6. +1
                        23 June 2021 11: 03
                        Are you talking about the facts of the poisoning of the codfik Sicero by the newcomer? Link ...
                      7. +2
                        22 June 2021 12: 05
                        Quote: Tank jacket
                        Why would an ordinary doctor throw mud at the Russian Federation and demonstrate Russophobia in almost every post?

                        I thought that only I could see it, especially when this figure was talking about Crimea and its inhabitants, whom I have known since the fifties, because I grew up there and still all close relatives live there and their parents are buried. It just so happened because my father fell under Khrushchev's reduction, although all our roots are from the depths of Russia.
                        So I was surprised how this doctor can pour crap on our reality, if they lived better in cities and under Soviet rule than the same Kolomna or Voskresensk in the suburbs. But as soon as they began to live in the nezalezhnaya, the Kiev authorities showed them to Kuzkin's mother - poverty and desolation in the fields, even at the Crimean Canal, and I saw it all with my own eyes.
                        And now he gives us rosin in our brains, thinking that his lies will go everywhere.
                        But it doesn't inject - apparently an experienced SBU agent ...
                      8. 0
                        22 June 2021 14: 58
                        Quote: ccsr
                        And now he gives us rosin in our brains, thinking that his lies will go everywhere.

                        In my opinion, you could not answer any of the questions he asked. Therefore, you are distressed by this, you ask questions about your mother's nationality, accuse him of collaborating with the SBU, you doubt where he lives and works, although he answered all your attacks and you have nothing to cover ... inferiority. It turns out that you are up to his level of development, at least in the matter of medicine, oh how far. So should you disgrace yourself?
                      9. 0
                        22 June 2021 17: 25
                        Quote: Overlock
                        In my opinion, you could not answer any of the questions he asked.

                        In general, he is afraid to ask me questions, and his lie that the vaccination of medical workers in Moscow began quite recently, does not climb into any gate at all. But you continue to believe this storyteller, since naive people are not extinct ...
                      10. -2
                        23 June 2021 10: 49
                        Quote: ccsr
                        He is generally afraid to ask me questions.

                        why should I be afraid of you? And vaccination has begun right now. Believe less Sobyanin
                        Quote: ccsr
                        fortunately, naive people are not extinct ...

                        it is you who are naive, because you believe in the tales of a zombie
                      11. 0
                        22 June 2021 16: 29
                        It is very noticeable ... In August-September, he will be strenuously calling for riots and the Maidan ... Mark my word. bully
                      12. -1
                        22 June 2021 15: 26
                        Quote: Tank jacket
                        Why would an ordinary doctor throw mud at the Russian Federation and demonstrate Russophobia in almost every post?

                        A simple Russian doctor asks for answers to the questions of millions of thinking



                        And you have neither knowledge nor desire, therefore, with your companions, they descended to the level of Nazis and persons with the level of thinking of a vocational school. I watched your battle with interest and why I remember Lavrov with his two letters in relation to you.
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          2. +6
            21 June 2021 09: 32
            Quote: Ingvar 72
            A subtle hint that we are all going to die out?

            Of course we will die out wink After all, no one has canceled the program for optimizing medicine, and if you listen to our authorities, then besides the coronavirus, we have no other diseases, which means there is no need to treat it. fellow
            Some kind of madness is going on.
            1. +4
              21 June 2021 09: 49
              Quote: Sovetskiy
              then besides the coronavirus we have no other diseases,

              Yes, this is a very interesting question for the extras.
              1. +1
                21 June 2021 10: 22
                Quote: Ingvar 72
                Yes, this is a very interesting question for the extras.

                Statisticians in this chain act as extras. lol I apologize for the tautology. hi
              2. +3
                21 June 2021 10: 54
                Yes, this is a very interesting question for the extras.

                So open the Rosstat website.
                There is a lot of interesting data there! And about the number of pensioners, and about the population, and about ....
                There is something to think about ...
                1. +2
                  21 June 2021 11: 00
                  Quote: VIK1711
                  There is something to think about ...

                  Considering that this is OFFICIAL data .....
                  1. +4
                    21 June 2021 11: 03
                    Yes, this is a very interesting question for the extras.

                    Even with that ..
            2. -3
              21 June 2021 09: 59
              Quote: Sovetskiy
              Some kind of madness is going on.

              Is Khodorkovsky's Money Driving Madness?
          3. 0
            21 June 2021 13: 32
            Quote: Ingvar 72
            Then the answer is, does Covid take the residents of the Central Asian republics?

            It all strongly depends on the age composition of the population.
      3. +3
        21 June 2021 08: 31
        In Europe, 50% of patients on their beds are vaccinated and also get sick and die ... Where is the guarantee that the vaccination facilitates the course of the disease ... it is difficult to check, everyone has different immunity.
      4. +3
        21 June 2021 09: 18
        Quote: Ingvar 72
        Against this background, Ginzburg's words about the need to reduce the age threshold for vaccination to 12-13 years look ridiculous. What for?!!!

        More vaccinations - more profit for the manufacturer. Not? But why should Ginzburg grieve about pharmaceutical companies, then yes. That is an interesting question.
      5. +6
        21 June 2021 09: 35
        "These are simple questions."

        These are very difficult questions, to which I, for example, do not have an answer. I doubt it myself, I myself think and reflect. I had been ill last year, I do not recommend feelings ... Now
        my sister and nephew are ill. Very hard. The nephew is 25 years old. Pneumonia.

        This morning I signed up for vaccination through the portal of the State Service.

        About two weeks ago, an adult and seemingly intelligent person told me in all seriousness about the possible chipping during vaccination .. bully
        1. +4
          21 June 2021 09: 48
          Quote: tasha
          I was ill last year, I do not recommend feelings.

          I was ill with this. Yes, it's hard. The wife (16 years younger) with the children got sick easily.
          Quote: tasha
          This morning I signed up for vaccination through the portal of the State Service.

          Your right, I don't want to. And categorically against the obligation.
          1. +4
            21 June 2021 09: 52
            Your right, I don't want to. And categorically against the obligation.
            Are you not planning to vaccinate because you have doubts about its usefulness or because you strongly oppose the obligation?
            1. 0
              21 June 2021 09: 54
              My doubts are based on the questions raised in my first comment.
              1. +3
                21 June 2021 09: 56
                And I have the same questions, the same doubts. One to one.
                You can answer yourself - what more do you have? Because it can be WARM outside or because mom ELECTS to put on a hat?
                1. +2
                  21 June 2021 09: 58
                  Doubts about the benefits of the vaccine, and that is why I am categorically against the obligation. One follows from the other, it is not worth opposing these concepts.
                  1. +6
                    21 June 2021 10: 03
                    A month ago, there was no question of obligation at all? And you, most likely, were not going to be vaccinated. Because they thought, doubted, reflected ..
                    Now somewhere, someone started talking about compulsory vaccination and you no longer need to think, reflect and doubt? Psychology, however ... hi
                    1. -2
                      21 June 2021 10: 15
                      Quote: tasha
                      And you, most likely, were not going to be vaccinated. Because they thought, doubted, reflected ..

                      What difference does it make what I thought and what I doubted?
                      I asked three questions, but in response I did not receive a single sane answer, only diversions to the side.
                      1. +3
                        21 June 2021 10: 30
                        Igor, it is not important WHAT you thought, but what you THINKED ..
                        And I do not know the answers to many questions, I can only share my thoughts ..

                        1) According to the manufacturers, the vaccine does not guarantee against infection, it only reduces the likelihood of complications and alleviates the severity of the course of the disease. Only(!).
                        "Only" ?! I myself was ill and communicated with the survivors. You know, it would be better if the severity of the disease was a little softer ...
                        2) Most virologists claim that the risk group for Covid 19 is 60+. Until the age of 30, the disease proceeds like a regular flu.
                        My nephew is 25. Not at all like the usual flu .. I don’t give other examples, but there are many of them, up to 30 and up to 60.
                        3) How can a vaccine created against Covid 19 (Wuhan strain) protect against an Indian strain, which is positioned as little studied?
                        This is yes, the most important question for me. If new strains, then .... I don't even know ...
                      2. -1
                        21 June 2021 10: 42
                        Quote: tasha
                        You know, it would be better if the severity of the disease was a little softer ...

                        Sogasen, the case for vaccination. But not in favor of the obligation, argued as caring for the rest, who are allegedly threatened by the unvaccinated.
                        Quote: tasha
                        My nephew is 25. Not at all like a regular flu ..

                        I was seriously ill before, about 10 years ago. request
                        Quote: tasha
                        but there are many of them, up to 30 and up to 60.

                        Even the official statistics say otherwise.
                        Quote: tasha
                        then .... I don't even know ...

                        Here I am too. But for me it is very interesting why they introduce a new strain with a vaccine against the "old" strain.
                      3. +5
                        21 June 2021 11: 02
                        But not in favor of the obligation, argued as caring for the rest, who are allegedly threatened by the unvaccinated.
                        The question of compulsory vaccination goes beyond the disease. Already passed .. And there were the same discussions about masks and about social distance. So what? Yes, they wanted to sneeze (oops ... fellow ) residents of Russia on requests, demands and fines ...
                        It's not about trusting the authorities, but about the widespread voluntary self-numbness. To you and me and to the rest of the VO readers, this of course does not apply wink
                        It is easier to control vaccinations than to drive maskless people and close shops, cafes and institutions. Because in an amicable way - they do not understand and do not want to understand.
                        And whether the vaccine is good or bad, but - the main task is to reduce the one-time burden on doctors and medical institutions at the time of a mass illness. We'll get over everything. The question is in what form and with what consequences. And how long will it take for an ambulance to get on a CT scan and receive full treatment.
                      4. -4
                        21 June 2021 12: 41
                        "It's not about trust in the authorities, but about the widespread voluntary self-numbness"
                        totally agree with you! you were told, wear a mask, you wear. you cannot think whether it is necessary. you were told, everyone is vaccinated !, you are vaccinated, not knowing what, and why. that's what I call - self-numbness
                      5. +6
                        21 June 2021 13: 00
                        you were told, wear a mask, you wear. you cannot think whether it is necessary.
                        Such statements do not characterize you well. Do I need to waste time on you?
                      6. -6
                        21 June 2021 13: 41
                        "Do I need to waste time on you?"
                        it’s your business, I’m spending it on you. but about self-numbness, only you are allowed to say that someone, somewhere, has become self-numbed, and you, as Caesar's wife?
                      7. +2
                        21 June 2021 12: 50
                        Quote: tasha
                        Yes, the residents of Russia wanted to sneeze (oops ...) to requests, demands and fines ...

                        Have you seen the concert organized by the authorities and Putin personally on the occasion of our Crimea? Everything there is without masks, and there is no social distance, but you still blame the people.
                        Quote: tasha
                        but - the main task is to reduce the one-time burden on doctors and medical institutions at the time of a mass illness.

                        I will repeat the question - what do the children have to do with it?
                      8. +1
                        21 June 2021 13: 07
                        but you still blame the people.

                        I do not blame, but I state smile
                        Last year, my mother-in-law started sneezing and went to the local doctor. There was just another peak in the incidence rate, there were 40 people, I waited three hours for an appointment and somewhere in this queue I picked up a covid, brought it home ... Well, you get the idea, yes. The authorities, of course, are also to blame wink
                        I will repeat the question - what do the children have to do with it?
                        This question is definitely not for me ... I don't know.
                      9. -4
                        21 June 2021 14: 03
                        Quote: tasha
                        The authorities, of course, are also to blame

                        That is, the queues after optimizations and other reforms in medicine are purely the fault of the people?
                      10. +3
                        21 June 2021 14: 05
                        is it purely the fault of the people?
                        That's Yoskin's cat! What bad person put this idea into your head?
          2. +6
            21 June 2021 12: 39
            And categorically against the obligation

            Actually, everything is pretty simple. Let all our bureaucrats, oligarchs, edrosy and other representatives of Putin's type of elite - massively and publicly, will be grafted into Sputnik in orderly ranks. In full force. Then, looking at them - and the people go and stretch .. What problems can you convince by personal example, if everything is so awkward? And then Avon - even the president was quiet for some reason, which one exactly stabbed. Although it would seem that he should have been the first to voice it .. However, his word in general has long meant almost nothing. Too often lied and deceived ...
      6. +5
        21 June 2021 11: 07
        Quote: Ingvar 72
        1) According to the manufacturers, the vaccine does not guarantee against infection, it only reduces the likelihood of complications and alleviates the severity of the course of the disease. Only(!). A correspondingly vaccinated person is also a spread of the disease.

        1 A full guarantee is provided by an insurance policy and then there is personal participation in it, there are no medications with 100% success.
        Quote: Ingvar 72
        2) Most virologists claim that the risk group for Covid 19 is 60+. Until the age of 30, the disease proceeds like a regular flu.

        This is correct for the Wuhan virus.
        Each next strain is getting younger last week, the Indian was brought to Israel and it was detected only in adolescents, before that they said that there was no need to vaccinate from 12 to 15, and yesterday they said that it is desirable that the population's faith in the recommendations of the Ministry of Health is positive and the demand has increased by 30%.
        Yes, the long-term effects are not understood, but everyone knows about the short-term if not vaccinated.
        Quote: Ingvar 72
        3) How can a vaccine created against Covid 19 (Wuhan strain) protect against an Indian strain, which is positioned as little studied?

        On the example of Israel.
        All the strains that are known to date have passed, were brought to Israel and tested in the Pfizer laboratory and in the bacteriological laboratories in Israel. Today, 80% protection against the most aggressive viruses is considered high protection.
        Quote: Ingvar 72
        If you think about it, there will be more questions.
        So who needs 60, 70 and more percent and why?

        Thanks to vaccination in Israel, all restrictions on the flesh have been lifted to the point that masks are not needed AT ALL, but with the appearance of the case of the Indian strain, masks will probably be introduced in schools and at the airport.
        An old question can be rephrased
        "To live or not to live that is the question?"
      7. -3
        21 June 2021 12: 17
        "An appropriately vaccinated person is also a spread of the disease."
        here you are a little wrong, a vaccinated person, first of all, is consumer vaccines. and who pays for this to the manufacturer, personally vaccinated, or the budget, is completely violet to him, as well as whether there is any benefit from these vaccinations. as masks, there is no sense from them, but it is necessary to wear, and even special rules have come up with how to wear. who wins? mask manufacturers
        "So who needs 60, 70 and more percent and why?"
        These are simple questions "
        here is the simple answer - the vaccine manufacturer and the people associated with it
      8. -2
        22 June 2021 08: 36
        "Most virologists say that the risk group for Covid 19 is 60+ years old. Up to the age of 30, the disease proceeds like a regular flu."
        The viewer-doctor of Crimean, Moscow and All Russia, dear Sylvester, answers you:
        1. -1
          22 June 2021 11: 00
          Quote: Tank jacket
          "Most virologists say that the risk group for Covid 19 is 60+ years old. Up to the age of 30, the disease proceeds like a regular flu."

          Give a link to your opus.


          And the fact that patients over 60 die more often, it's a no brainer why
          1. -1
            22 June 2021 11: 02
            This is Ingvar 72 refer above laughing
            Do you see the quotes? ...
            1. 0
              22 June 2021 11: 15
              Quote: Tank jacket
              This is Ingvar 72 refer above

              Bzdnul laughing
              Quote: Tank jacket
              Most virologists say that the risk group for Covid 19 is 60+. Until 30 years of age, the disease proceeds like a regular flu. "
              The viewer-doctor of Crimean, Moscow and All Russia, dear Sylvester, answers you:

              Quote wisely
    2. 0
      21 June 2021 08: 12
      Production capacities do not allow, read the statements of officials on this matter when the vaccine was just being prepared and how many doses were promised by what date. But these are usually overly optimistic statements.
    3. -2
      21 June 2021 09: 35
      Quote: Tank jacket
      Although many people know that foreigners buy vaccination tours to the Russian Federation.

      from Europe or the States? name the numbers and countries
      1. +2
        21 June 2021 09: 59
        Quote: Silvestr
        from Europe or the States? name the numbers and countries

        Contact the Ministry of Health ...
        But he himself saw a German who flew to Domodedovo for vaccination. We stood nearby at the vaccination station counter in the right wing on the ground floor, while he was filling out the first injection, and I was filling out a certificate in three languages ​​about the vaccination carried out.
        In the process, I watched another foreigner happily leaving the station after the injection.
        1. 0
          21 June 2021 10: 38
          Quote: stalkerwalker
          But he himself saw a German who flew to Domodedovo for vaccination.

          is it massively or an isolated case?
          1. +1
            21 June 2021 15: 49
            Quote: Silvestr
            Quote: stalkerwalker
            But he himself saw a German who flew to Domodedovo for vaccination.

            is it massively or an isolated case

            I was at the vaccination station counter for about half an hour, the mentioned German was waiting for the vaccination room to be vacated.
            I myself received a certificate based on a QR code from the State Services website, and wishing the German "Good luck", he left for landing.
            At the same time, the man left the office, and the girl who had hidden next to us was invited there. He did not determine her nationality - at that time he communicated with the registrar.
    4. 0
      21 June 2021 10: 09
      Yes, but when the opposite campaign was developed, we thought (as far as this word is applicable to our authorities) that the vaccine would be in short supply and did not want a stir. They achieved their goals) There is no excitement.
    5. -1
      21 June 2021 19: 56

      Hypocrisy + stupidity = shlyubka Sable ...
  5. -10
    21 June 2021 05: 19
    Gennady eats sausages all his life, but refuses to be vaccinated, because does not know the composition of the vaccine ... wassat

    1. -1
      21 June 2021 13: 39
      Judging by the portrait of Stalin, the vaccine should have been from Kolyma. laughing
      1. 0
        21 June 2021 13: 56
        If you are talking about the so-called. repression, then it is high time to rename them in the repression of the Trotskyists ... And by the way, how many people visited Kolyma?

        Dear friends, in Italy, the funeral service bureau turns to local anti-vaccines.

        "Do not get vaccinated
        We are ready for an epidemic. "

        And a contact number at the end.

  6. +9
    21 June 2021 05: 24
    The author contradicts himself.
    First, he writes that the coronavirus was invented.
    Then, that refusal to vaccinate is a health risk.
    Anyway, the whole article is a mess of slogans,
    1. -2
      21 June 2021 07: 18
      Quote: Jacket in stock
      First, he writes that the coronavirus was invented.
      Then, that refusal to vaccinate is a health risk.

      If he was invented, then what, he became less dangerous and therefore does not need to be vaccinated? "Echo in Moscow", coming from behind the hillock and urging not to be vaccinated, took root in the first place in its entirety.
      1. -7
        21 June 2021 07: 27
        "Echo" urged not to be vaccinated? This is when?
      2. +2
        21 June 2021 08: 34
        The point is that those who invented it, without any problems, will roll out a mutant that will not be affected by all vaccines ... or even a new package of viruses such as multi-colored types of mold in India ...
    2. -10
      21 June 2021 07: 26
      And conspiracy theories.
      1. +5
        21 June 2021 07: 40
        Quote: Slobodskoy
        "Echo" urged not to be vaccinated? This is when?

        The last time was yesterday. 17:17, 20 June 2021

        “The fact is that the consequences of this vaccine not fully explored - she is experimental... Yes, covid is a dangerous disease, but it is does not give the right apply to people experimental vaccine. It should only be with their consent ”- A. Kormukhin.

        Link: https://echo.msk.ru/news/2858042-echo.html
        1. +2
          21 June 2021 09: 07
          Quote: Boris55
          Yes, covid is a dangerous disease, but this does not give the right to apply an experimental vaccine to people.

          What's wrong with this thesis?
          1. -1
            21 June 2021 10: 06
            Quote: Ingvar 72
            What's wrong with this thesis?

            What is in my post above, in the quote, is highlighted in bold. Who, in your opinion, will agree to be vaccinated with a completely unexplored, experimental vaccine? laughing

            They do not directly call, do not say not to be vaccinated. They "simply" urge us to draw our own conclusions based on their false claims.
            1. +1
              21 June 2021 10: 12
              Quote: Boris55
              They "simply" urge us to draw conclusions from their false claims.

              Why did you decide that the conclusions are false? There is still no data on the long-term effects of the vaccine. And there is the fact of making changes to the already published vaccine trial protocol. Is this your argument in favor of vaccination?
              1. -3
                21 June 2021 10: 14
                Quote: Ingvar 72
                Is this your argument in favor of vaccination?

                It's up to everyone to get vaccinated or not. I have been vaccinated and have no regrets.
                And yes, there is no limit to perfection.

                ps
                The vaccine has been tested for a long time and has not been experimental for a long time. Almost half of humanity is already grafted into it.
                1. 0
                  21 June 2021 12: 46
                  "Almost half of humanity is already grafted into it"
                  Well, it's you, my friend, you turned it down. not even so, but FUNCTIONED !!!
        2. +4
          21 June 2021 10: 59
          Why are you tearing words out of the quote?
          “We are not criticizing vaccination, but how it is carried out. You can not force people to be vaccinated. The problem is trust. The fact is that the campaign, including the information campaign that accompanied the vaccination, was not always correct in relation to people listening to what was being said. Often the words did not correspond to what actually happened. Therefore, when people have questions, including about the vaccine, when people began to get infected after vaccination, after that to introduce compulsory vaccination against such a background - I think this is a mistake "
        3. -6
          21 June 2021 11: 06
          [quote] [/ quote] Actually, this is not at all a call not to be vaccinated. This is a call to vaccinate not by compulsory procedure, but after informed consent. Well, by and large, today all vaccines against COVID are experimental, since they were developed and are used by emergency protocol.
    3. +3
      21 June 2021 07: 55
      The author contradicts himself.
      First, he writes that the coronavirus was invented.
      Then, that refusal to vaccinate is a health risk.
      Anyway, the whole article is a mess of slogans,


      And when it was different for him, the government certainly deserves criticism, but you need to beat them with facts and not throw waste on the fan.
    4. 0
      21 June 2021 10: 26
      Quote: Jacket in stock
      First, he writes that the coronavirus was invented.

      came up with. Read the vaccine developer

      https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/exclusive-former-pfizer-vp-your-government-is-lying-to-you-in-a-way-that-could-lead-to-your-death
      1. -5
        21 June 2021 13: 47
        Cheap conspiracy. Can you link to the original of this quote, not a translation?
        1. -1
          21 June 2021 17: 59
          Quote: Slobodskoy
          Can I link to the original of this quote, not a translation?
          You need to read carefully
          https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/exclusive-former-pfizer-vp-your-government-is-lying-to-you-in-a-way-that-could-lead-to-your-death
          1. -3
            21 June 2021 18: 08
            Another link to "Murzilka" was given.
            1. +3
              21 June 2021 18: 28
              Quote: Slobodskoy
              Another link to "Murzilka" was given.

              then read
              1. -2
                21 June 2021 19: 30
                I don’t really understand you - you’re like a doctor, and you usually write very sane comments. And now you want to say that there is no coronavirus, it was invented by the world government, vaccination is a conspiracy, etc.? Maybe I was mistaken and you are not the same "Sylvester"? By the way, and the Nobel laureates sometimes talk nonsense. The same Montagnier writes that the eyes are on the forehead. Dementia, or what?
                1. +3
                  21 June 2021 21: 53
                  Quote: Slobodskoy
                  By the way, the Nobel laureates sometimes talk nonsense. The same Montagnier writes that his eyes are on the forehead. Dementia, or what?

                  And how is Gunzburg different?
                  1. -3
                    22 June 2021 10: 39
                    Well Gunzburg is still not a Nobel laureate.
                    1. +1
                      22 June 2021 10: 42
                      Quote: Slobodskoy
                      Well Gunzburg is still not a Nobel laureate.

                      Maybe it will? His schizophrenia is just rushing or commercial gain - he decided to hit the jackpot
    5. +1
      21 June 2021 15: 50
      Which author is such an article.
  7. +6
    21 June 2021 06: 00
    In foreign policy - a full-fledged alliance with China, a course towards the reunification of the Russian lands and the Russian people.
    What is it like? A full-fledged alliance with China? A raw material appendage? Do you think that China will build up enterprises all over Russia and give it to management? This will not happen. China is not the USSR. The reunification of the Russian lands and the Russian people. And how is that? Which international court will you go to? Or forceful method? Is it all to dust? Are we going to heaven? According to information received from there, the angels and cherubs have already completed the construction of another residential complex, for the Russians, they have begun a new one. Construction is proceeding with shock waves, socialist competition has been organized. smile The author you have all the data in order to take the deputy chair like Starikov and others and organize a political party. laughing
    1. -6
      21 June 2021 07: 32
      Quote: parusnik
      What is it like? A full-fledged alliance with China? A raw material appendage?

      Was the Chinese space station built by the Chinese themselves?

      1. +11
        21 June 2021 08: 15
        Yes, the Chinese themselves, there was no order in Russia, and they brought them out on their missiles, supply them with their trucks and manned ships. Of course, they are full of stolen technologies from other countries, mainly Russia. But everything is done by the hands of the Chinese
        1. -8
          21 June 2021 08: 34
          Quote: BlackMokona
          Of course, they are full of stolen technologies from other countries, mainly Russia.

          Although the USA stole all the documentation in the 90s, they fly on our engines.
          It is not enough to steal, there should be specialists capable of putting it into practice.

          About Russia, China and the West (USA).

          There are three mature civilizations in the World:
          - European civilization;
          - the civilization of the East;
          - and Russian civilization.

          Depending on who is "friends" with whom, those third and wet.

          - Tsarist Russia "was on friendly terms" with the West - they soaked China, Tsarist Russia no longer exists.
          - Stalin's Russia "was friends" with China - the USSR was the first economy in the world;
          - Western civilization "was friends" with the civilization of the East - the USSR no longer exists.
          - Today we are "friends" with China - there is a crisis in the West. China is the first economy in the world.

          Conclusion:
          To be friends with the West is dearer to yourself. We must be friends with China. There is no third.

          ps
          Who does not believe in the existence of civilizations (video from 0:29):

          1. +5
            21 June 2021 09: 54
            Although the USA stole all the documentation in the 90s, they fly on our engines.

            Are our engines on Chinese launch vehicles? wassat
            1. -5
              21 June 2021 10: 23
              Quote: Tucan
              Are our engines on Chinese launch vehicles?

              Their engines are built according to our documentation, which the United States is not able to repeat. The details are made by simple workers and the result depends on their qualifications, and for this you need to have a high level of general education, which the United States cannot boast of.
              1. +4
                21 June 2021 10: 28
                The Chinese that are currently used by the RN began to design long before the normalization of relations with Russia. But if you insist, do not be unfounded, and tell us which specific Russian rocket engines you copied to the PRC?
              2. -2
                21 June 2021 13: 05
                You should read about Delta-4 and Falcon-9 and their engines
                The United States does not need the RD-180 made at cost, they buy from us for half the cost, despite the fact that salaries in our country are ridiculous in comparison with theirs.
                https://ria.ru/20110511/373020049.html
                If the RD-180 is made in the USA and then a standard percentage is increased, then one engine will cost more than the Musk rocket.
          2. -7
            21 June 2021 10: 10
            Quote: Boris55
            There are three mature civilizations in the World:
            - European civilization;
            - the civilization of the East;
            - and Russian civilization.

            Russian civilization no longer exists.
            1. -1
              21 June 2021 10: 19
              Quote: Mikhail3
              Russian civilization no longer exists.

              The head of state has a different opinion (video above) and I agree with him.
              1. -1
                21 June 2021 12: 34
                What difference does it make what the head has? I'm Russian. And I can see perfectly well that the principles of the civilization that was called Russian are completely lost. Western principles have been introduced, under great pressure. So now Russia is no different from any Western country. Only because Western principles are still not native to us, and also because the West has thousands of years more experience in applying these principles, we are at the very tail of Western civilization.
                Where it is, this civilization takes food. So they arranged it - in front of them themselves, behind those who foolishly believed them. And the leaders of the rear are eating. We are food. Food.
                1. -4
                  21 June 2021 19: 56
                  How exactly do they “eat” you? How is this expressed? And what is the difference between Western “principles” and Russian ones? In general, what is the peculiarity of “Russian civilization”?
          3. -4
            21 June 2021 19: 53
            Won't you talk about the “biblical project?” KOBchiks usually love this topic very much.
        2. -2
          21 June 2021 15: 53
          Their entire station, as well as ships and docking hubs, is pure copy-paste with modifications to the modules of ships and units of Soviet and Russian production, the process of hybridization and copying in China continues to work to its fullest because it is much cheaper and much easier than creating your own from scratch.
      2. +4
        21 June 2021 15: 11
        Was the Chinese space station built by the Chinese themselves?
        ... No, Boris, not themselves, but from the Soviet "galoshes" that the USSR sent them to walk in the Gobi Desert. laughing
    2. -1
      21 June 2021 08: 39
      At the moment, our authorities are constantly wiping their feet on China, putting spokes in its wheels for the sake of the West .... You just need to stop shitting your neighbor ... For example: How we all resent the supply of weapons to Ukraine .... At the same time, we are supplying China's enemies with the most advanced weapons and even leasing nuclear submarines .... Soon we will lease nuclear missiles (like nails for temporary use).
      We need to be friends with China! You shouldn't make them your enemies ... Let me remind you that in the 90s we were left with nuclear weapons only to be used against China ...
      1. 0
        21 June 2021 11: 03
        as nails for temporary use

        What nails?
  8. +7
    21 June 2021 06: 22
    An ambivalent attitude towards wearing masks leads to nihilism. Someone can do without masks, but some cannot. Capitalism has been established seriously and for a long time. To demand its abolition is simply ridiculous. People of labor are reclaiming for some given purpose. And first of all, to return at least some of the optimized medical facilities. Now it is especially visible either a lack of simple knowledge, or an excess that takes people away from pressing problems. Such is the culture of complete humiliation. Examples are everywhere. One noble hastily erudite guy asks the pop star an uncomfortable question .. And she, instead of adequately answering, starts up in a roar. stars, and such is imitation. During an epidemic, sanitary doctors set the tone for everything. And at the same time, officials should be simple performers.
  9. +6
    21 June 2021 06: 36
    Quote: nikvic46
    During an epidemic, sanitary doctors set the tone for everything, and bureaucrats should be simple executors.

    It's not real !!!! The power is not with the doctors. All around "effective" managers !!!!
  10. -2
    21 June 2021 06: 45
    Nil Afonsky wrote: “People, having become so crafty in their souls, and will be belittled in body, will be 1 and 3/4 arshins * height, we say: five spans ** human body length (from 88,9 to 124,5 cm). By the deeds of their slyness, these people will surpass the demons and will be one spirit with the demons. Why will they become midgets?
    In Soviet times, they somehow showed African cannibals - pygmies. They were one meter tall with a cap. The presenter explained to the audience that cannibalism leads to disease and degeneration of the species. Many scientists also testified to this, especially before the era of the “bright future.
    Further. To increase the fat content of milk, the British fed cows with cow bone meal. Got rabies. What will people get if they get vaccinated with vaccines containing the line HEK 293 (Human Embryonic Kidney 293; Human Embryonic Kidney 293) and consume food with supplements containing this line? Will they be mad too? ALL vaccines contain this line and even Russian ones. Making excuses and getting out, this is evidenced even by the developer of this vaccine, the director of the Federal State Budgetary Institution “NITsEM named after V.I. N.F. Gamalei "A.L. Gintsburg A.L., when he says that, according to the Hayflick limit, all cells dividing in cell culture die after about 50 divisions. Therefore, all cells taken from the original material were absent in the HEK 293 line, and the statement about the connection of this line with abortive material is tantamount to the statement about its origin from the Neanderthal.
    And what if a person died, then his children and grandchildren ceased to be of his kind?
    Do not believe the lies uttered by people with regalia and positions.
    Further. In the US, McDonald's restaurant chain is accused of using fillers made from worm meat (meat made from worms). Now inspectors have allegedly found human meat and horse meat in the freezers of a McDonald's factory in Oklahoma City.
    The consumer does not even know that when buying Pepsi Cola, Nescafe instant coffee, Nesquick cocoa, Maggie seasoning, baby food or other Nestlé brand products, he is getting a product with the addition of "human flesh".
    Good luck, vaccinated vaccine practitioners and consumers of Western treats! Your children and grandchildren will be XNUMX meter tall wicked people with a cap.
    Note. * 1 arshin = 71,12 cm.
    ** 1 inch = 17.78 cm.
    hi
  11. +6
    21 June 2021 07: 00
    It is necessary to immediately abandon the line that goes from the WHO, the UN, the IMF and the USA- easy
    Bring back people's trust- the people do not give a shit. He lives his life.
    Nationalize the elite and its capital take everything and share?
    Nationalize the Central Bank- useless.
    Cancel pension reform- yeah, where can I get money for retirement?
    Carry out a new industrialization- impossible. there is nowhere to find cheap and free labor. The Russian village has dried up.
    To raise the welfare of the people, to take care of them-hurry, comrades. wassat
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    2. +1
      21 June 2021 10: 28
      Quote: professor
      It is necessary to immediately abandon the line that goes from the WHO, the UN, the IMF and the USA - easily
      Return the confidence of the people, the people don't give a shit He lives his own life.
      Nationalize the elite and its capital, take everything and divide it up?
      It is useless to nationalize the Central Bank.
      Cancel the pension reform, but where can we get the money for retirement?
      It is impossible to carry out new industrialization. there is nowhere to find cheap and free labor. The Russian village has dried up.
      To raise the welfare of the people, to show concern for them, hurray, comrades.

    3. +1
      21 June 2021 13: 45
      I shake your hand tovarisch. With proletarian greetings to the People's Socialist Republic of Israel. laughing
  12. +1
    21 June 2021 07: 17
    Under the USSR, the actions of vaccinations were classified. There were lethal cases, but they were hushed up. And now from every gateway, the caronovirus is the intrigues of the "golden billion", vaccination against covid is a reduction in the population on the planet. The people were so scared that Sochi was overcrowded, and soon Turkey On June 24, I am vaccinated for the second time, as they say, injecting and went. In Sirius, mobile vaccination stations are already operating. The article Alexander wrote, before the statement of the State Department: If China does not allow its international covid test in Wuhan, then a regime will be introduced against it international isolation. The United States already has 13 allies. And according to the carbon footprint, the emissions market, according to economists' forecasts, will be 10 times larger than the oil market. The tax is imposed not on inhalation, but on exhalation. So we and China will have fun times. Not so. passed, we will win !!!
    1. 0
      21 June 2021 10: 30
      Quote: tralflot1832
      : If China is not admitted to its international covid test in Wuhan

      By the way! Why is China preventing this? On the thief and the hat is on fire?
      1. +1
        21 June 2021 10: 36
        The WHO has already been there, but has not found anything. China's answer: The problem of the origin of Covid should be dealt with by virologists, not intelligence services! Questions?
        1. -1
          21 June 2021 10: 38
          Quote: tralflot1832
          WHO has already been there, but has not found anything.

          read the report - the commissioners were kept in the hotel and were not released to any object
          Quote: tralflot1832
          Virology scientists should deal with the problem of the origin of Covid

          Dr. Mengele was also a fanatic of his "case", but this did not stop him from being a criminal
          1. +3
            21 June 2021 10: 46
            The WHO answer is enough for me, and they did not find anything criminal. But read the writings of the okolovozovka journalists yourself.
            1. 0
              21 June 2021 10: 48
              Quote: tralflot1832
              The WHO answer is enough for me, and they did not find anything criminal. But read the writings of the okolovozovka journalists yourself.

              position is clear
  13. +3
    21 June 2021 07: 17
    Yeah ... Judging by the comments and the article: a lot of knowledge, a lot of sorrow. I was especially pleased with the opus with a biblical genetic hypothesis. Cool! Honestly cool! And the indicator of vaccination as an indicator of people's trust. It took it straight for a living. I would say a new discipline has been discovered - episodic sociology. I urgently sit down to refute the author's assertion about the fall in trust through statistics on the increase in the use of ballot boxes by citizens and the use of "art @ lo @ o" lottery tickets. But in general, fervently, especially the action plan
    1. 0
      21 June 2021 09: 14
      Quote: sleeve
      And the indicator of vaccination as an indicator of people's trust.

      Exactly. Doesn't it make you think that the governor's rating is assessed by the percentage of those who come to the elections? It can be regarded that there is a state. the program and the overwhelming number of citizens should take part in it, but people have no other way to tell the authorities that they are eating too much, except sabotage. Hence the ignorance of vaccination, precisely because it is already painfully actively promoted. Name examples since 2000, when the authorities did not deceive the people?
      1. +1
        22 June 2021 06: 11
        Not. Doesn't make you think. It makes me think otherwise. Human society, in particular our Russian society, is beginning to be regarded as the simplest organism with a set of reactions. As tests of these reactions, various ratings based on one, maximum two functionalities. It makes me think that the questions derived in social surveys are an order of magnitude more complex in terms of content than the rating analytics matrix. Who and what investigates, I do not care. The question is why and why? Maybe it's just that no one is going to create truly public analytics? Could it be more convenient to juggle these dumb ratings?
        1. 0
          22 June 2021 08: 52
          Quote: sleeve
          Human society, in particular our Russian society, is beginning to be regarded as the simplest organism with a set of reactions.

          I agree with everything, except for one thing, that any society is the simplest organism with a set of reactions and it can be controlled in the same way as any machine. This is not my opinion, it is approximately this theory put forward by the founder of cybernetics Winner. It was cybernetics that showed that social. the management model, with certain advantages, on the whole loses to the capitalist one, therefore it was initially banned in the USSR. And with regards to the present, then any society is governed and we are no exception, and all these polls, ratings are the influences with the help of which the crowd is directed in the right direction.
          1. -1
            22 June 2021 15: 20
            Am I against hypotheses? Especially old Wiener. However, I don’t digest the process of adjusting society to this simplified reflection. What are we currently seeing in the media and networking space? What "new trends" do we see in pedagogy? This is sooo bad.
    2. +1
      21 June 2021 10: 34
      Quote: sleeve
      But in general, fervently, especially the action plan

      There is a disaster in the country: the suppressed disease flared up with renewed vigor, and the "very smart" population, either out of laziness, or believing that the epidemic has been overcome and behind, or succumbing to the false preachers of refusal, is in no hurry to get vaccinated.
      But it is not this that amazes, but some childish joy of this misfortune of those who call themselves patriots, though not of today's Russia, which they do not see at close range, but of the past and mythical future of the USSR. Someone calls them all-fledged people, someone - leftists, someone - instead of the left. But they do exist and are eagerly rejoicing like the difficulties of today's government, and, it turns out, today's Russia, all Russians and the possible deaths of compatriots - future victims of the covid. It's scary from this joy of them!

      If anything, then I also regret the death of the USSR, in which he lived most of his life, a supporter of him and Lenin, Stalin. But you need to live of today life, and not always cry about the USSR and soar in dreams of the future!
      1. 0
        21 June 2021 12: 32
        All these troubles and problems are a natural result of 30 years of government.
        1. +1
          21 June 2021 12: 58
          Quote: Kronos
          All these troubles and problems are a natural result of 30 years of government.

          Really? But what about similar (in some countries, much greater) troubles and problems in other countries of the world, where the power you hate does not exist? But if even so, as you say, then why rejoice and aggravate? How are you different from the enemies of Russia, who wish Russia and the Russians the same as you?
          1. +3
            21 June 2021 13: 14
            In those countries, too, suddenly capitalism with similar problems. You know, medicine is optimized not only in Russia. Of course, you don't need to rejoice. After all, ordinary citizens die in the main, and not those who are guilty of the poverty of the people.
            1. -2
              21 June 2021 13: 23
              Quote: Kronos
              Of course, you don't need to rejoice.

              Not necessary? So why are you all happy? fatal "crisis of confidence"? You don't have to bother answering for all the madmen.
              1. -1
                21 June 2021 13: 25
                They rejoice at the crisis of confidence in the authorities, not the death of people. Or do you have the power and the people?
                1. -2
                  21 June 2021 13: 37
                  Quote: Kronos
                  They rejoice at the crisis of confidence in the authorities, not the death of people. Or do you have the power and the people?

                  The "crisis of confidence" is fatal for people, not for power! You shouldn't be happy!
                  1. 0
                    21 June 2021 14: 25
                    And the government, in many cases, is elected by a majority people. No matter how much you like it and no matter how you lie that it is not.
                2. 0
                  22 June 2021 06: 24
                  Oh how? What is a great formula? And you can just once more: "We have been occupied and we, the people, have nothing to do with those who control us"! How simple it is! Do not go to the polls the same?
                  1. -1
                    22 June 2021 11: 52
                    Quote: sleeve
                    Do not go to the polls the same?

                    No, probably he still goes and votes for some left-wing party. Most likely for the Communist Party. Although the option is not excluded that he does not go anywhere, "fights" without leaving the couch, is excommunicated from the "struggle" only to the kitchen and to the toilet. smile
          2. +2
            21 June 2021 18: 09
            Quote: Vladimir Mashkov
            But what about similar (in some countries, much greater) troubles and problems in other countries of the world, where the power you hate does not exist?

            So look how many doctors died in NIH and in Russia in the coronavirus, did they use students like Russia or not? Maybe then understanding will be
            1. -2
              21 June 2021 18: 21
              Quote: Silvestr
              So look how many doctors died in NIH and in Russia in the coronavirus, did they use students like Russia or not? Maybe then understanding will be

              Doctor, I have an understanding, you will NOT confuse me. From the very beginning, I have been closely following the progress of the pandemic both in the world and in Russia. Do not try to cast your shadow over the fence. Me you will NOT cheat.smile
              1. +2
                21 June 2021 18: 25
                Quote: Vladimir Mashkov
                You will NOT fool me

                Why do I need this? You shouldn't even touch such people - they are straightforward and do not understand the deviations of what is happening at all. Disease is a dynamic process
                1. -2
                  21 June 2021 18: 29
                  Quote: Silvestr
                  Why do I need this? You shouldn't even touch such people - they are straightforward and do not understand the deviations of what is happening at all. Disease is a dynamic process

                  If you are sincere, then happy for you. smile Although you are out of habit, pompous rant.
                  1. +3
                    21 June 2021 18: 33
                    Quote: Vladimir Mashkov
                    Although you are out of habit, pompous rant.

                    When you treat covid-patients, then you will have the moral right to tell me on this topic. And without that, you're just blah blah
                    1. -1
                      21 June 2021 18: 48
                      Quote: Silvestr
                      When you treat covid-patients, then you will have the moral right to tell me on this topic. And without that, you're just blah blah

                      I doubt that you are treating covid patients: for this you are very much on VO bol.. sorry, you are. Yes, and I do not see in you qualities for a doctor, a doctor in general, who loves patients. Are you a pathologist?
                      1. +1
                        21 June 2021 19: 59
                        Quote: Vladimir Mashkov
                        I doubt that you are treating covid patients: for this, you are very much on the whole .. sorry, you are.

                        It's your problems. I doubt your IQ.
                        Quote: Vladimir Mashkov
                        Yes, and I do not see in you qualities for a doctor-clerk, a physician in general, who loves patients.

                        A typical common man's mistake. The doctor should not love the patient, he should have compassion for him. Love turns off the brain and the doctor stops thinking adequately. You need to love your relatives, wife, children.
                        Quote: Vladimir Mashkov
                        Are you a pathologist?

                        Isn't that a doctor? If you want to check, come to Moscow, I'll cut you something laughing
                      2. -2
                        21 June 2021 21: 20
                        Quote: Silvestr
                        A typical common man's mistake. The doctor should not love the patient, he should have compassion for him. Love turns off the brain and the doctor stops thinking adequately. You need to love your relatives, wife, children.
                        Quote: Vladimir Mashkov
                        Are you a pathologist?

                        Isn't that a doctor? If you want to check, come to Moscow, I'll cut you something

                        Doctor, you perfectly understood what kind of "love" I was talking about for the patient. You people do not like very much for ordinary doctor. Yes, a pathologist is definitely a doctor too. But his "patients" are somewhat special and special. I guess I guessed right with the pathologist. Hence your cynicism and desire to communicate with living people. Our conversation was not particularly friendly. Nevertheless, I wish you health and success in your work. Thank you for the invitation, I would need a small operation, but not easy while get out to Moscow (?).
                        And with my IQ I will somehow live the rest of my days. smile
                      3. +1
                        22 June 2021 00: 20
                        Quote: Vladimir Mashkov
                        You really dislike people for an ordinary doctor.

                        You are not all people. Why love you?
                      4. -1
                        22 June 2021 11: 45
                        Quote: Silvestr
                        You are not all people. Why love you?

                        I'm talking about all people, and you - transfer the conversation to me, my personality. This is the usual petty trick and dishonest argument of all demagogues.
                      5. +2
                        22 June 2021 11: 52
                        Quote: Vladimir Mashkov
                        I'm talking about all people, and you - transfer the conversation to me, my personality.

                        why are YOU responsible for ALL people?
                        Quote: Vladimir Mashkov
                        This is the usual petty trick and dishonest argument of all demagogues.

                        do not you think, the navel of the universe?
                      6. 0
                        22 June 2021 12: 12
                        Quote: Silvestr
                        Quote: Vladimir Mashkov
                        I'm talking about all people, and you - transfer the conversation to me, my personality.

                        why are YOU responsible for ALL people?
                        Quote: Vladimir Mashkov
                        This is the usual petty trick and dishonest argument of all demagogues.

                        do not you think, the navel of the universe?

                        WHAT FOR you misinterpret and twist my words, attribute to me what I did NOT say? This is VERY dishonest! After all, I did not speak on behalf of all people, but spoke ABM of all people! And why did you start insulting me again? Are you again trying to provoke me, call me back insults, complain as usual and bring me under a ban? Do not wait! I'll just stop communicating with you.
      2. -5
        21 June 2021 12: 57
        "There is a misfortune in the country: the disease that had been extinguished broke out with renewed vigor"
        who is it, Sobyanin? so he is not even a doctor, and will declare exactly what is needed at the moment. I don't see any corpses on the side of the road, the cemeteries are still overcrowded, and the hospitals are as spacious as ever. so who needs the statements of Sobyanin and others like him?
        1. -1
          21 June 2021 13: 03
          Quote: aglet
          "There is a misfortune in the country: the disease that had been extinguished broke out with renewed vigor"
          who is it, Sobyanin? so he is not even a doctor, and will declare exactly what is needed at the moment. I don't see any corpses on the side of the road, the cemeteries are still overcrowded, and the hospitals are as spacious as ever. so who needs the statements of Sobyanin and others like him?

          I do not count how many dissidents like you were buried, but the death of such "heroes" is reported periodically. Mostly famous. And how many are unknown? ...
          1. -3
            21 June 2021 13: 39
            "but the death of such" heroes "is reported periodically"
            I have never read it, but when they try to push any disease under the virus and when a person with a heart attack was treated to death from the virus, I heard
            1. 0
              21 June 2021 15: 08
              Quote: aglet
              "but the death of such" heroes "is reported periodically"
              I have never read it, but when they try to push any disease under the virus and when a person with a heart attack was treated to death from the virus, I heard

              No wonder: you read (if you read at all) only what you like and "see" only what you want.
              1. -4
                22 June 2021 11: 32
                "No wonder: you read (if you read at all) only what you like and" see "only what you want."
                venerable, when there are no arguments, then go to the individual, this is the basic law of the discussion. I've read a lot more than you've even seen, and unfortunately I can't read what I want. this "what I want" must first be isolated from the stupid blah-blah, advertising, and a huge number of statements of the bearers of truth
                1. 0
                  22 June 2021 12: 03
                  Quote: aglet
                  venerable, when there are no arguments, then go to the individual, this is the basic law of the discussion. I've read a lot more than you've even seen, and unfortunately I can't read what I want. this "what I want" must first be isolated from the stupid blah-blah, advertising, and a huge number of statements of the bearers of truth

                  You are not right: я did NOT transfer to your identity: you yourself started talking about themselves., and I just answered you. As for who has lived, saw and read more - a moot point. For example, I lived for seven and a half decades, flew around, traveled around, walked around many places in the Union (one listing will take up a lot of space), worked in the seas of the Far East, visited almost all ports of the Far East and communicated with a huge number of people from all over the Union. And you, book people?
                  1. -3
                    22 June 2021 12: 08
                    "you are reading (if you are reading at all)"
                    this, in your opinion, is not a transition?
                    " And you?"
                    yes, about the same, only a little younger, and was not in the Far East
                    1. 0
                      22 June 2021 12: 57
                      Quote: aglet
                      "you are reading (if you are reading at all)"
                      this, in your opinion, is not a transition?
                      " And you?"
                      yes, about the same, only a little younger, and was not in the Far East

                      Yes, "you read" is NOT a transition, but only an ANSWER to your "I read".

                      And about the same, only a little younger - NOT an answer at all, but a clumsy attempt shy away from the answer: "about the same" - it's about nothing, as well as "a little younger." How much younger is this? 50, 40, 30 or 20? Ridiculously, not a book reader in the Far East. Have you actually been anywhere?
          2. +1
            21 June 2021 17: 55
            Quote: Vladimir Mashkov
            I don't count how many dissidents like you were buried, but the death of such "heroes" is reported periodically

            And you count, pliz. If we have already undertaken to prove, then the facts are in the studio or in a rag
            1. -1
              21 June 2021 18: 16
              Quote: Silvestr
              And you count, pliz. If we have already undertaken to prove, then the facts are in the studio or in a rag

              Doctor, don't tell me! At your command, I will not jump over a stick or count anything. You need? Search and count! Meet the Lord, as one of my former bosses used to say! lol
              1. +3
                21 June 2021 18: 28
                Quote: Vladimir Mashkov
                You need? Search and count! Meet the Lord, as one of my former bosses used to say!

                I don't need to look for what I need to know. You, putting forward the idea, do not at all support its confirmation. Level - "one woman said." For a serious subject, this is not enough, for beer it is enough.
                1. -1
                  21 June 2021 18: 33
                  Quote: Silvestr
                  I don't need to look for what I need to know. You, putting forward the idea, do not at all support its confirmation. Level - "one woman said." For a serious subject, this is not enough, for beer it is enough.

                  Yes, your quirky logic is clear: since you do not want to fulfill my wishes, you are a talker. Look for dancers in your surroundings to your tune! smile
                  1. +1
                    21 June 2021 18: 42
                    Quote: Vladimir Mashkov
                    Yes, your quirky logic is clear: since you don't want to fulfill my wishes, you are a talker

                    Okay! Let's move on to the practical plane. Your message
                    Quote: Vladimir Mashkov
                    I do not count how many dissidents like you were buried, but the death of such "heroes" is reported periodically.

                    How many covid dissidents were buried, and how do we share them with those who have not been vaccinated? What is the general mortality rate in this pathology and how does the quality of medical care affect it? How has the earlier optimization of healthcare in Russia influenced this quality?
              2. 0
                22 June 2021 11: 33
                "I will not jump over a stick or count anything at your command."
                that is, no facts? only words?
                1. 0
                  22 June 2021 13: 18
                  Quote: aglet
                  "I will not jump over a stick or count anything at your command."
                  that is, no facts? only words?

                  The facts are is.... And you (in this case, I'm not only talking about you personally, but about your entire bad bunch, which looks VERY like a gang by all indications) you know very well about this. But you are unsuccessfully trying to get me to fulfill your wishes and, knocking down and sticking out my tongue, scouring in search of evidence of the obvious to you. Do not wait! smile
                  1. -4
                    22 June 2021 13: 20
                    "There are such facts"
                    but they are secret, and we cannot show them to you. somewhere I've already heard it
                  2. -3
                    22 June 2021 13: 26
                    "But you are unsuccessfully trying to get me to fulfill your wishes and, knocking down and sticking out my tongue, prowl in search of evidence."
                    but if you have the facts, why prowl, kick your legs and stick your tongue out? if you already have them?
                    1. 0
                      22 June 2021 15: 01
                      Quote: aglet
                      "But you are unsuccessfully trying to get me to fulfill your wishes and, knocking down and sticking out my tongue, prowl in search of evidence."
                      but if you have the facts, why prowl, kick your legs and stick your tongue out? if you already have them?

                      What are you and all your dishonest company are NOT original: you impudently heap on anyone who puts out a thought that is different from yours complete rejection of the current Russian government and reality; and you run over, and intimidate, and distort, and provoke, in order to immediately make a complaint and bring a naive person under a warning or a ban. Your morality, conscience and decency are very bad, everything is replaced by the thesis "The worse - the better!"
                      1. -3
                        22 June 2021 15: 15
                        Quote: Vladimir Mashkov
                        lean on anyone who puts out a thought that is different from your complete rejection of the current Russian government and reality

                        Please explain to me why I should love or at least respect the current government of the Russian Federation? What good has she done for the country, over the years, has been developing industry? Raised the standard of living of the population? Have you made any progress in international politics? I have the answer to these questions - no! If you have a different point of view, please tell us about it.
                      2. +2
                        22 June 2021 15: 33
                        Quote: aleksejkabanets
                        Quote: Vladimir Mashkov
                        lean on anyone who puts out a thought that is different from your complete rejection of the current Russian government and reality

                        Please explain to me why I should love or at least respect the current government of the Russian Federation? What good has she done for the country, over the years, has been developing industry? Raised the standard of living of the population? Have you made any progress in international politics? I have the answer to these questions - no! If you have a different point of view, please tell us about it.

                        A LOT has been done! A large number of ships, ships, icebreakers, roads, buildings, houses, bridges (including the longest in Europe), enterprises have been built and are being built, Russia overcame the fall of the 90s, moved away from the edge of the abyss of collapse and collapse, returned to its place an influential world power that the West hates, but reckons with. Any objective person sees it! But - not you! You in everything you see only dirt, flaws and omissions. Which, by the way, are always available in any country in the world.

                        There are people who are blind, they really do not see. You and your company YOU DO NOT WANT see nothing good in Russia! For a variety of reasons. Some - out of stupidity and stubbornness, some - because of collaboration.
                      3. -3
                        22 June 2021 17: 39
                        Quote: Vladimir Mashkov
                        A large number of ships, ships, icebreakers, roads, buildings, houses, bridges (including the longest in Europe), enterprises,

                        Just compare this with what was built in the USSR in any 30 years. Comments, as they say, are superfluous.
                        Quote: Vladimir Mashkov
                        Russia overcame the fall of the 90s, moved away from the edge of the abyss of collapse and collapse

                        What, let me ask you. overcame? Fall in medicine or education? So, according to these indicators, it only got worse. There are many fewer factories today than in the 90s, which is not unfortunate. Only that social programs and pensions began to be paid on time, yes, you can't argue with that. And from the abyss of fall and collapse, it has not moved anywhere, look at the situation in the regions. With 15-17 thousand salaries and prices for food, building materials, clothes more expensive than in Moscow, will the center like the regions strongly? We already have rumors that Moscow is not too hungry?
                        Quote: Vladimir Mashkov
                        returned to the place of an influential world power, which the West hates, but reckons with.

                        From this place in more detail please.))))) Where is it considered? In Syria, Ukraine, Moldova, Georgia, etc.?
                        Quote: Vladimir Mashkov
                        You only see dirt, flaws and omissions in everything.

                        I don't see any victories!
                        Quote: Vladimir Mashkov
                        Which, by the way, are always available in any country in the world.

                        I don't give a damn about all the countries of the world put together! I want my country to be great and mighty, to be proud of it! What is the Russian Federation proud of today?
                        Quote: Vladimir Mashkov
                        There are people who are blind, they really do not see. You and your company DO NOT WANT to see anything good in Russia!

                        And there are people who have absolutely no developed critical thinking. They see and hear only what they want to see and hear.
                      4. +1
                        22 June 2021 20: 41
                        Quote: aleksejkabanets
                        And there are people who have absolutely no developed critical thinking. They see and hear only what they want to see and hear.

                        With your last phrase, you yourself perfectly characterized yourself and your fellow thinkers!

                        I will only note the most well-known truth: the stubborn stubborn (those about whom they say: at least a little amuse on his head!) And the crazy always think that they much smarter than others, know the ultimate truth and unshakably believe only in their ideas about reality. The obvious facts are nothing to them.

                        I wish - sincerely - all the best and look at the world wider and deeper! smile
                      5. +1
                        22 June 2021 20: 45
                        Quote: Vladimir Mashkov
                        I wish - sincerely - all the best and look at the world wider and deeper!

                        And I sincerely wish you the same.))))
      3. -2
        21 June 2021 14: 08
        Quote: Vladimir Mashkov
        But they do exist and are eagerly rejoicing like the difficulties of today's government, and, it turns out, today's Russia, all Russians and the possible deaths of compatriots - future victims of the covid. It's scary from this joy of them!

        Do you have any fear from the care of your relatives of the import-substituted authorities? Did you fit into the market successfully, or was it purely naive?
        1. -3
          21 June 2021 15: 12
          Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
          Do you have any fear from the care of your relatives of the import-substituted authorities? Did you fit into the market successfully, or was it purely naive?

          To someone who in everything only a good psychiatrist will "see" only the bad. Do not wear a foil hat, by any chance?lol
          1. -1
            21 June 2021 16: 30
            Anyone who stubbornly sees bad as a good psychiatrist should also help, I hope?
            1. -5
              21 June 2021 17: 09
              Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
              Anyone who stubbornly sees bad as a good psychiatrist should also help, I hope?

              Sure! Certainly! But normal people realists well seeing and distinguishing between bad and good, shades and halftones, really evaluating and weighing the reality and the situation, a psychiatrist is NOT needed! smile
              1. +3
                21 June 2021 17: 54
                Quote: Vladimir Mashkov
                But for normal people, realists who see well and distinguish between bad and good, shades and semitones, really assessing and weighing reality and the situation

                This is you! Self-esteem is too high, somehow immodest. You only trade in the market in Barabashovo
                1. -2
                  21 June 2021 18: 02
                  Quote: Silvestr
                  This is you! Self-esteem is too high, somehow immodest. You only trade in the market in Barabashovo

                  "Jupiter, are you angry? So you are wrong!" And the diagnosis is NOT correct, and you are nervous ... Doctor, do not be nervous and do not try to insult me. Do not descend to the level of a bazaar brawler! smile
                  1. +1
                    21 June 2021 18: 30
                    Quote: Vladimir Mashkov
                    Jupiter, are you angry? So you are wrong! "And the diagnosis is NOT correct, and you are nervous ... Doctor, do not be nervous and do not try to offend me.

                    Than? It is impossible to offend you laughing
                    Although for a rotten bazaar - it is necessary. Look up and read the crap you wrote about me. The trader from Barabashovo is not killable
                    1. -3
                      21 June 2021 18: 40
                      Quote: Silvestr
                      Than? It is impossible to offend you
                      Although for a rotten bazaar - it is necessary. Look up and read the crap you wrote about me. The trader from Barabashovo is not killable

                      Doctor, calmer, calmer, you are absolutely furious! Take care of your nerves! You still need to treat the sick! And you don't take me to reciprocal insults and ban. laughing
                      1. -4
                        21 June 2021 19: 15
                        Or open?
                      2. 0
                        21 June 2021 20: 04
                        Quote: Vladimir Mashkov
                        Or open?

                        You? Do you want a Shore or a folk, a Bulgarian?
                      3. 0
                        21 June 2021 20: 01
                        Quote: Vladimir Mashkov
                        And you do not bring me to retaliatory insults and ban.

                        What for? Meaning?
                      4. +2
                        22 June 2021 15: 14
                        Quote: Silvestr
                        What for? Meaning?

                        Meaning? I believe both you and your entire company are VERY simple: ALL, disagreeing with your bump of views on the current Russian government and reality, shut your mouth and try to survive with VO by putting warnings and bans with touching complaints to the moderators / administration under warnings. Moral principles? Nonsense! The main thing - "The end justifies the means!"
          2. -2
            22 June 2021 11: 35
            "Only a good psychiatrist will help someone who" sees "only bad things in everything."
            unfortunately, it is very difficult to find good in this "everything", and one must look for
      4. +1
        22 June 2021 06: 21
        I completely agree. Although I didn't really like it in the USSR, which the country was turned into in the 80s. The ideas of the "masters of thought" are somehow too expensive for us. It seems to me that the word ideology is still incompatible with Russia. This word is quickly saddled by the narrow-minded in an embrace with cunning asses and begin to successfully rub people's necks. That "autocracy, Orthodoxy, nationality", that "third Rome", that "proletarians of all countries unite", "that perestroika, acceleration, glasnost." All this did not turn out to be good. Well, or at least a well-fed belly. For some reason, the main goal of those in power has always been to fight precisely with their own population. Recently, the vector has begun to change. We get fat, we swear that we are slowly getting fat. They actively rushed to "fight poverty." Little freebies. In general, again, a bad country. The imperious stratum with the greatest success implements the proverb about the law and the tongue, so that at the top it is already possible not to plan anything at all. But it is good that there are people out there who have a keen sense of the problems of state and economic construction with ready-made recipes. Otherwise it would definitely "unwind" us on the historical path.
  14. 0
    21 June 2021 07: 23
    I cannot grasp the logic of the covid dissidents. The government is bad, so vaccinations are not needed.
    I propose, due to distrust of the authorities, to stop washing, shaving and brushing under the nails.
    1. +6
      21 June 2021 10: 25
      Quote: Humpty
      I cannot grasp the logic of the covid dissidents. The government is bad, so vaccinations are not needed.
      I propose, due to distrust of the authorities, to stop washing, shaving and brushing under the nails.

      - Why don't you put on a parachute?
      - Oh, well, there can be all sorts of side effects - rub your back, something else, and there is no 100% guarantee, suddenly it will not open ...
      1. 0
        21 June 2021 12: 33
        It is impossible to survive without a parachute in a fall, and without vaccination, and even more so, there are those for whom it is contraindicated.
        1. +1
          21 June 2021 13: 51
          Quote: Kronos
          It is impossible to survive without a parachute in a fall, and without vaccination, and even more so, there are those for whom it is contraindicated.

          Don't take it so personally. This is an anecdote.
          1. -2
            21 June 2021 14: 12
            Whats wrong with that? We use European experience. Who was there broadcasting about the development of herd immunity? Seems like Sweden? And then tell me that Russia is not Europe.
            1. +3
              21 June 2021 16: 57
              Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
              Whats wrong with that? We use European experience. Who was there broadcasting about the development of herd immunity? Seems like Sweden? And then tell me that Russia is not Europe.

              Today you are without antibodies, and tomorrow you want to join NATO!
              laughing lol
  15. +5
    21 June 2021 07: 30
    The previous article about the virus received 700 comments. Record.
    Here one thing is not clear, everyone suddenly flared up with concern for their distant ones. Vaccine advertisements are cooler than a presidential campaign.
    Speaking of trust. Recently, a stranger accidentally wandered into a congress of one of the parties. Not a party member. Not only did he speak, but he also ordered the nomination of the five.
    1. +9
      21 June 2021 10: 31
      Quote: Gardamir
      all were suddenly inflamed with concern for their distant ones.

    2. +1
      21 June 2021 12: 55
      So don't vote for that party. And do not vote for the same person. Is that what you are doing? Well, everything is fine then and you are doing the right thing. And the rest is the same.
      1. 0
        21 June 2021 13: 15
        Quote: sleeve
        So don't vote for that party. And do not vote for the same person. Is that what you are doing? Well, everything is fine then and you are doing the right thing. And the rest is the same.

        He does not vote for anyone because from / from Ukraine. He campaigns and helps to fight the Russian government. For which large shoulder straps were given. smile smile
        1. -1
          21 June 2021 17: 35
          Quote: Vladimir Mashkov
          He does not vote for anyone because from / from Ukraine.

          This is something new, because he presented himself as a Crimean doctor working in Moscow.
          Where did you get such data?
          1. 0
            21 June 2021 17: 41
            Read carefully his comments. And, in fact, to introduce yourself as someone and from anywhere is not a problem. Last year I could not understand where the strange group came from, which cursed the Russian authorities for nothing. They turned out to be from the United States, from the east and west coasts. In the ending, one even touted how wonderful California was.
            1. -1
              21 June 2021 17: 52
              Quote: Vladimir Mashkov
              Read his comments carefully.

              right, maybe the neurons will be excited, because you live only in the subcortex
            2. -1
              21 June 2021 18: 29
              Quote: Vladimir Mashkov
              And, in fact, to introduce yourself as someone and from anywhere is not a problem.

              I admitted this from the beginning, too much whining came from him, even in relation to the inhabitants of Crimea, and I know the situation on the peninsula.
              Quote: Vladimir Mashkov
              They turned out to be from the United States, from the east and west coasts. In the ending, one even touted how wonderful California was.

              Strange, but I noticed how one anonymous AsmyppoL constantly writes here, carefully hiding his name, and around him is the same anonymous group of clakers who do not try to discuss his articles, but minus all his opponents. This means that a team is acting here, and their goal is to show which Soviet military leaders were poor and how they were easily deceived by Hitler with his intelligence. In general, it is clear where the wind can blow from ...
          2. 0
            21 June 2021 17: 52
            Quote: ccsr
            This is something new, because he presented himself as a Crimean doctor working in Moscow.
            Where did you get such data?

            in a dream he dreamed + a sick imagination.
        2. -2
          21 June 2021 17: 51
          Quote: Vladimir Mashkov
          He does not vote for anyone because from / from Ukraine. He campaigns and helps to fight the Russian government.

          one more oracle from Nenka. How many of you are so stoned?
          Quote: Silvestr
          Quote: Tank jacket
          Eyes running ... nervous? bully
          In the testimony you get confused, then the doctor, then not the doctor. That Crimean, then Moscow ... Marcel Marceau did not say anything to you?

          and if you think about it? Can a person move, live not where he was born? Insanity?
          Quote: Tank jacket
          So, what should we do with you?

          Are you the navel of the Earth? Do not step wide, the fly will not burst
          Quote: Tank jacket
          The last traditional question remains, Sylvester. What is your mother's nationality?

          Russian.

          Find my small homeland on today's map.
          Your argument looks like the argument of an inferior person and I'm not surprised, for some reason!

          It applies to you too. Don't try to be more Putin than he is. People like you and profiled Kharkiv and Ukraine, because you can be clever only here. But you cannot understand this, because you live in blinders, therefore, the movement of thought is only straightforward.
  16. +3
    21 June 2021 07: 55
    Poverty has been completely overcome in China,

    Why, when they talk about such an event, do they avoid giving numbers?
    In 2010, the Chinese government set the poverty line as an annual income of 2300 yuan (about $ 356). Since then, this value has increased several times and now stands at 4000 yuan per year (about $ 620) for rural residents.
    Those. the poverty line in China is an income of less than $ 51 per month. Less than 4000 rubles. In Russia, this threshold is three times higher.
    1. 0
      21 June 2021 08: 18
      The same is true when they talk about poverty in the United States, where the threshold is even radically higher.
      In the hungry, they write down poppy fat bats, because they don't eat right. They do not receive all the necessary vitamins and minerals, which means their bodies are starving.
      And in the illiterate people are recorded as incapable of intellectual work.
    2. -3
      21 June 2021 12: 59
      "In Russia, this threshold is three times higher."
      maybe in china the prices are lower? for all
      1. -1
        21 June 2021 13: 38
        Quote: aglet
        maybe in china the prices are lower? for all

        Not sure.
    3. +1
      21 June 2021 13: 01
      China is generally a serious organization. The blizzard in the social image of society is monstrous, the economy and the scientific and technological revolution is a fog of fogs, but our supporters of "strong politics" (I just don't know what to call it another fantasy) he simply charmed, to the point of complete denial of the analysis.
  17. -2
    21 June 2021 08: 09
    At the same time, the rich and super-rich become even richer, and the poor - poorer.




    Actually, in the Western world, people got 2,9 trillion dollars in wealth during the pandemic. And now everywhere the economy is growing rapidly.
    1. +3
      21 June 2021 12: 35
      The rich got rich.
    2. +2
      21 June 2021 14: 17
      Quote: Keyser Soze
      And now everywhere the economy is growing rapidly.

      Including on the printing press dope. It's five. good In this case, for example, I am in favor of the Bulgarian monetary unit becoming the world currency. I wish that the Bulgarian brothers' economy grows as well as in the states. In the end, why are Bulgarians worse?
      1. 0
        21 June 2021 15: 17
        In this case, for example, I want the Bulgarian monetary unit to become the world currency


        You can still laugh at our currency, but it changed its rate (to the euro) for the last time in 1998. laughing And since then, 1 euro is equal to about two leva.

        And one ruble equals 0,022 Bulgarian leva ... laughing
        1. 0
          22 June 2021 11: 40
          "but it changed its rate (to the euro) for the last time in 1998"
          worthy of respect. do not tell me, what is your average salary, well, or income?
          1. 0
            22 June 2021 13: 30
            do not tell me, what is your average salary, well, or income?


            Hello colleague, now I looked at our National Statistical Institute - the average salary in the country, at the end of 2020 was 1 levs, which is approximately 468 euros. So so for the EU. The wealth of the population retreats 730% below the EU average. There is work to do. That is why the last government was dismissed and we will give way to new politicians. And I hope to see the old ones in prison.
            1. -1
              22 June 2021 13: 32
              "I hope to see the old ones in prison."
              I hope so too laughing ... thanks for the answer
  18. +1
    21 June 2021 08: 29
    Poverty has been completely overcome in China,

    With all due respect to China and its colossal achievements, no one likes to say that the poverty line in China is set at $ 1,7 a day. If you get more, it means that you are not poor already. And this despite the fact that China is the world leader in the growth of billionaires. Have you seen many people in Russia living with such an income? We receive dozens of times more, but all the same they only whine about how bad their life is. They sit all the time (including at VO) instead of working and whine. The Russians are not ready in their current state to work for decades for a bowl of rice a day, and this is how China achieved what it has. In the 20s of the last century they were ready and made a "Russian miracle", now they are not ready.
    1. +3
      21 June 2021 10: 11
      Quote: Vasia
      In the 20s of the last century, they were ready and made a "Russian miracle", now they are not ready.

      Well, this resource (peasants who lived archaic (pre-industrial) agriculture) is essentially "one-time". Moreover, the "English" and "Germanic" "miracles of industrialization" at one time were obtained in exactly the same way. If you don't believe me, you can see descriptions of WHAT were the living and working conditions of workers in Great Britain and Western Europe in the 19th century. (hint - the work was hard and exhausting, the payment for it was beggarly, the working and living conditions were extremely difficult).
      1. 0
        21 June 2021 10: 30
        I know that, I agree with you. Plus, the Western wonders of industrialization were richly flavored with the status of the metropolises, which milked their colonies. China, in the form of a huge plus, has gigantic volumes of human resources living in the countryside in an archaic state. They lacked technology - the USSR, then the West gave them, China skillfully used it.
        1. +2
          21 June 2021 11: 18
          Well, with the colonies here, too, as ... In itself, "milking" (robbery) of colonies is not a panacea. Spain and Portugal plundered the colonies as best they could, but this did not help them.
          But the same USA did not have colonies at all until the very end of the 19th century, however, and this did not interfere with industrialization. Other factors were at work - a little better than in Europe working conditions (by modern standards, it is still extremely fig), which attracted cheap labor in the person of immigrants to the New World "in search of a better life" (by the way, immigration from Ireland was quite massive, at that time the British colony, which the "British gentlemen" "milked in the tail and in the mane"), plus two more curious points - the high (protectionist) level of customs duties and, EXTREMELY, right up to the time of the First World War - the non-recognition of any patents for inventions and utility models except for those issued in the United States itself. To put it simply, in the 19th and the very beginning of the 20th century, the United States easily copied new (and therefore in Europe, still protected by patents with unexpired validity periods) German and English inventions without paying anyone anything for it. And then they produced mass and cheap, albeit not the best quality goods.
          1. +1
            21 June 2021 11: 34
            Well, with the colonies here, too, as ... In itself, "milking" (robbery) of colonies is not a panacea. Spain and Portugal plundered the colonies as best they could, but this did not help them.

            By and large, I agree with you. Of course, one cannot ignore the showdown between the metropolises, if we consider the issue of the loss of influence of some of them. And so, in general, I find your assessment of the processes quite sound.
            1. +1
              21 June 2021 11: 55
              Uh-huh. Moreover, it is worth noting that at present the method of non-recognition of patents for inventions and utility models, in addition to patents issued in the country itself, is in fact carried out by China. By copying new (and therefore still protected by patents with unexpired validity periods) Western inventions and releasing them for production and sale;). But this is not all that China is doing to maintain its technological development.
              Annual government spending on R&D in China is US $ 451,2 billion. Or 2,12 percent of GDP. Annual government spending on defense and the army in the same place in China - $ 252 billion. Or 1,7 percent of GDP.
              For comparison, in Russia, annual government spending on science and research is 1,1 percent of GDP. Total. With a much smaller total economy :(
              And the garbage here is that just in order to stay in the same place in the international table of ranks of the leading scientific and technological countries, "you have to run as fast", and to move forward in it, "you have to run even faster" :(
              1. +1
                21 June 2021 12: 22
                Plus another interesting update. As of 2017, 10 people employed in the manufacturing sector account for the following number of industrial robots:
                - in South Korea - 710
                - in Singapore - 658
                - in Germany - 322
                - in Japan - 308
                - in China - 97 (and it should be noted, in 2013 the figure was only 25, in 2019 - already 187)
                - in Russia - ... 4 (four) ...
                1. +1
                  21 June 2021 13: 08
                  Plus another interesting update. As of 2017, 10 people employed in the manufacturing sector account for the following number of industrial robots

                  With all this:
                  In March 2018, the National Assembly of South Korea passed a law that will allow a large proportion of workers to rest more than they do now.
                  Legislators in South Korea overwhelmingly approved a law that reduces the maximum working hours. weeks from 68 hours to 52...
                  In Japan, there is a problem of "deaths from overwork", the existence of which is confirmed not only by statistics, but also by the Japanese language itself, in which there is even a word for this phenomenon - "karoshi" (literally translated as "death from overwork").
                  This word refers to death at work from stress-related illnesses (such as a heart attack), or suicide committed by someone who is unable to cope with the stress at work.
                  https://www.bbc.com/russian/features-43877627

                  Returning to the same China - are the Russians ready to work like this? This is not a financial factor, a time factor, but time is money. Then there will be robots and growth, albeit not in such numbers. Yet the structure of our economy is different. At the construction of a nuclear power plant, many robots cannot be implemented at the current level of robotics. Not so long ago I gave up a good job just because I would have to devote myself entirely to work, and for me, having personal time is critically important. Nafig such a job with a six-day period, like in South Korea, vacation 3 days a year, unless of course this is a desperate situation.
                  1. 0
                    21 June 2021 14: 26
                    Quote: Vasia
                    Nafig such a job with a six-day period, like in South Korea, vacation 3 days a year, unless of course this is a desperate situation.

                    Of course nafig. Because it's pretty much pointless.
                    It is necessary to leave not at work 24 hours a day, but in science and technology.
                    1. 0
                      21 June 2021 14: 30
                      Of course nafig. Because it's pretty much pointless.
                      It is necessary to leave not at work 24 hours a day, but in science and technology.

                      China, South Korea and Japan are still using this for their inventiveness (applied), but they cannot do the other. We will see.
                2. -1
                  21 June 2021 16: 05
                  You want hundreds of thousands of people in Russia to lose their jobs - when they are replaced by robots.
          2. 0
            21 June 2021 13: 03
            The USA had no colonies until the very end of the 19th century.

            Still as they were. They were called - South. This is what caused the creation of the Confederation and the civil war. And not blacks at all.
    2. -7
      21 June 2021 10: 34
      Quote: Vasia
      With all due respect to China and its colossal achievements, no one likes to say that the poverty line in China is set at $ 1,7 a day.

      China is a soap bubble.
      1. +6
        21 June 2021 10: 42
        China is a soap bubble.

        I disagree. China's economy is much more based on the real sector than the hegemon. And this real sector is growing by leaps and bounds. That is why the United States has now strained itself, and even started to frighten us with China. Although, maybe it's offtopic.
        1. -2
          21 June 2021 10: 50
          Quote: Vasia
          China's economy is much more based on the real sector than the hegemon.

          US 22 trillion, China 40 trillion
          1. +2
            21 June 2021 11: 13
            US 22 trillion, China 40 trillion

            It seems that the USA is already 28,5, and the next large infusions, without which they cannot do, will go there (more precisely from there). It is necessary to take into account the trends, they are not in favor of the United States. China under these 40 creates a gigantic infrastructure that will work for decades, the United States was actively involved in this in the last century. If the States do not have strong trump cards in their sleeve, they do not push Russia or China, they will have to "shrink", and the process of squeezing can turn out to be very unsightly - it will not seem a little to everyone. So we are waiting, therefore, for the activation of the "fighters against the regime" and the shakers, the promotion of new figures in the political arena, or a sharp change in the color and rhetoric of those already promoted - all this will only grow up to a certain point.
            1. -2
              21 June 2021 14: 28
              Quote: Vasia
              It seems that the United States is already 28,5, and the next large injections, without which they cannot do, will go there (more precisely from there). It is necessary to take into account the trends, they are not in favor of the USA. China under these 40 creates a gigantic infrastructure that will work for decades, the United States was actively involved in this in the last century.

              Did you read about Biden's plans there? And the US gravedigger?
              1. 0
                21 June 2021 14: 41
                Did you read about Biden's plans there? And the US gravedigger?

                But in essence? I am not a gravedigger of the USA, and in general, I like many things born in the USA.
                You also have plans, only "if you want to make God laugh, tell Him about your plans." There is an alignment in international relations, I proceed from this.
                1. -2
                  21 June 2021 16: 37
                  Hold on, I'm not sorry for those banned in Google.
                  https://www.rbc.ru/politics/01/04/2021/606528e39a794743b8a98b5d?utm_source=amp_full-link
                  1. 0
                    21 June 2021 16: 50
                    Hold on, I'm not sorry for those banned in Google.
                    https://www.rbc.ru/politics/01/04/2021/606528e39a794743b8a98b5d?utm_source=amp_full-link
                    It's not even funny already. Such injections into the economy have already led to an explosive growth of debt - 28 trillion. And nothing has been built. Pants barely hold.
                    1. -2
                      21 June 2021 16: 55
                      To me personally, yes. Not funny. Because we are caught between a rock and a hard place. And we have an excessive number of trampoline craftsmen in our management. And other strategists of the deep peoples, glorious for their talent, to cheat their people in the next elections and screw up on all fronts the cases that the country really needs that they have undertaken.
                      1. +1
                        21 June 2021 17: 08
                        And other strategists of the deep peoples with glorious talent

                        Sorry, I could not understand what you mean.
      2. +3
        21 June 2021 11: 21
        Quote: Silvestr
        China is a soap bubble.

        Oh well. The bubble is not implementing large-scale climate improvement projects designed for at least many decades. There are unique examples in road construction. I have not seen free benches there, this is bad of course, backwardness is probably.
        1. -3
          21 June 2021 11: 22
          Quote: Humpty
          The bubble is not implementing large-scale climate improvement projects designed for at least many decades.

          No loans? Himself? Do you tell fairy tales?
          1. +2
            21 June 2021 11: 32
            Quote: Silvestr
            No loans? Himself? Do you tell fairy tales?

            They build roads themselves, I don’t think that at the expense of someone’s foreign loans and for large-scale theft during construction they REALLY shoot them. I have a lot of things to say hard about China, but not seeing their successes is strange. I saw how their country was changing before our very eyes, although I did not see their megalopolises, the largest city, in which I was - 3 million.
            1. -2
              21 June 2021 11: 41
              Quote: Humpty
              but not seeing their success is strange.

              Nobody denies, but without money, nowhere
              1. +4
                21 June 2021 12: 05
                Quote: Silvestr
                but without money, nowhere

                So the Chinese themselves lend to whomever they need. And in white and black too.
    3. -2
      21 June 2021 12: 37
      In the modern world, nothing can be achieved with this. It is necessary to develop industries and technologies, and not to drive people into poverty with bourgeoisie. Despite the fact that the level of salaries has already reached African countries, there is still one primitive recipe to pay less and milk more from you.
    4. -1
      21 June 2021 14: 22
      Quote: Vasia
      Russians are not ready in their current state to work for decades for a bowl of rice a day

      Anything that we have already worked for a bowl of rice? Are you really sick or what? Why the heck are we then science and technology? Why the heck is progress at all? To work for food like a hundred years ago?
  19. -3
    21 June 2021 09: 35
    Trust in authority below the floor is true. But you need to be truly alternatively gifted so as not to get vaccinated in spite of the state.
    1. -4
      21 June 2021 13: 10
      "would not be vaccinated in spite of the state."
      what to vaccinate against? from the terrible epidemic that the state invented, and which it supports with all its might?
      and how to vaccinate? some kind of incomprehensible liquid, the effectiveness of which is in great doubt?
      and most importantly, why get vaccinated? if you are healthy, the vaccine is not needed, if you are sick, it will not help
  20. -1
    21 June 2021 09: 48
    Today it was announced that the new, "Indian" strain is much more dangerous than the previous one. And this is not the first time. That is, conspiracy theories have nothing to do with it. This is IMPOSSIBLE in nature. For the simple reason that in nature, during the natural course of diseases, no more dangerous but less dangerous strains survive. They do not kill carriers, do not limit their mobility, do not interfere with the carrier from spreading the virus, that is, they have a huge evolutionary advantage. If people get sick faster and get sick more severely, then the virus is much less likely to spread. The conclusion is unambiguous.
    Covid virus. ARTIFICIALLY CREATED. And the operation continues. Someone continues, in laboratory conditions, to deduce all new strains and distribute them in pursuit of some of their own goals. The fight against the covid virus is impossible with medicine. The only way to end the "epidemic" is to find those who are carrying out this operation and stop it. All other methods are ineffective in principle. And the actions that are being taken to "fight the epidemic" are those actions that play into the hands of people who are breeding more and more strains. Cooperating with our enemy? So we are not surprised that our affairs are getting worse ...
    1. 0
      21 June 2021 11: 46
      The only way to end the "epidemic" is to find those who are carrying out this operation and stop it.

      Finding those is very "difficult". The US Biolabs and the Rockefeller Foundation, the owners of the IMF, they are so classified, it is impossible to find them.
      Let's dream. I would like them to be found and directly said: you are to blame, in 1 hour the laboratories will be destroyed, everything is on the way out.
      1. 0
        21 June 2021 16: 00
        Close the exit and not let anyone out. Let the criminals stay there forever.
  21. -2
    21 June 2021 10: 03
    Already at the end of the 90s, the global world found itself in front of a “broken trough”.

    Therefore, in 2000-2008, the world economy grew steadily.
    PS: The Russian economy in the same years was growing not only steadily, but also at a very fast pace.
    robbery of a number of countries, in particular, Iraq.

    The "robbery" of Iraq is the growth of the Iraqi economy in 2003-2009 by 2,5-3 times. By the way, the population of Iraq also increased over the same years, not fell.
    destruction of the Libyan Jamahiriya and the plunder of its resources

    Only after the overthrow of Gaddafi, oil production in Libya and its exports in absolute terms did not increase, but decreased.
    full-fledged alliance with China

    The main and main interest of China in relation to Russia is to obtain natural resources from Russia at the cheapest possible price. "Union of a rabbit with an anaconda", yeah.
    Poverty has been completely overcome in China

    There is just one little nuance.
    Quote: "On November 23, 2020, China announced that it had eliminated absolute poverty nationwide by uplifting all of its citizens beyond its set ¥ 2,300 (CNY) per year, or less than a dollar per day poverty line."
    The point is that there are no people left in China with an income of less than 1 US dollar per day (less than 2300 Russian rubles per month).
    Quote: "On 28 May 2020, Li Keqiang, the Premier of China, said that" China has over 600 million people whose monthly income is barely 1,000 yuan (USD 140) and their lives have further been affected by the coronavirus pandemic. ""
    More than 600 million people out of 1444 million people in China (that is, approximately 41,5 percent of the total population of China) as of 2020 live with an income of approximately 140 US dollars (equivalent to 10 Russian rubles) per month.
    unwilling to pass laws on compulsory vaccination, as this is a very unpopular measure

    And this is a question about the allegedly existing “primordial collectivism, not as in the“ depraved West. ”Because if one is guided primarily by the values ​​of collectivism, then one must voluntarily and with a song be vaccinated and welcome any measures aimed at the widest possible coverage of the population with vaccination against coronavirus infection.
  22. +1
    21 June 2021 10: 06
    The article is a complete merde ...
    Making the issue of vaccination dependent on the "trust of the common people" in the leadership is in the spirit of Bronstein's call for a world revolution to a victorious end.
    But in the comments you can see exactly those "rEvolutionErov" who are ready to spite their mother's ears to freeze, but still be happy to subscribe to the article.
    Walking lads - grandma received a pension!
    wassat
  23. -3
    21 June 2021 10: 27
    The author, I agree with you for the first time!
    Only about an alliance with China I do not agree- China is a global evil ... a bomb from which everyone will get.
  24. -1
    21 June 2021 10: 33
    Quote: Silvestr
    Quote: Tank jacket
    Tell us about the complications?
    "So who needs 60, 70 and more percent and why?"
    These are simple questions "
    Israel ... China, EU, USA ...

    Reinforced concrete argument .... at first glance.
    We begin the analysis of this reinforced concrete.
    1. USA... Yes, indeed the States carry out mass vaccinations, but what ...! Pfizer and Modern. It is impossible to compare Pfizer and Modern with Sputnik, it's like comparing BMW and Zhiguli. Vaccination is voluntary and based on clarification and human stimulation.
    Further. From vaccines, which are recognized as the best in the world (WHO) in the United States, 4 reports of side effects from vaccination were officially registered on June 329, of which 021 deaths, 5 people were hospitalized, 888 urgently needed medical attention, to a doctor 19 597 people applied.
    Some complications: anaphylactic shock was experienced by 1 people, 459 had a severe allergic reaction, 15 women had miscarriages, 052 people had heart problems. A sharp jump in mortality occurred after they began to vaccinate young people and children - pensioners and older people received the vaccine in the winter.
    A simple question arises - "BMW" turned out to be rotten. What then can you think about the quality of the Zhiguli?
    How then should one interpret the words of one BMW researcher - "we were wrong" https://www.nakanune.ru/news/2021/06/11/22605215/.
    2.Israel... Yes, also a rampant vaccination, the enemy is defeated. BUT! Why did the number of deaths increase 2 times since the beginning of vaccination? !!
    The answer is simple - see the experience of the USA, vaccines are the same.
    Let's look at the other side. Around Israel, countries (Lebanon, Jordan, Palestine) did not carry out mass vaccinations - there were quarantine measures and bans. You can think of Israel and these countries as two groups of a large vaccination experiment. Bottom line. Israel conquered disease. And what about the control group? We look at the statistics.



    The result in the main and control groups of the experiment is the same. The question arises, where does the vaccine have to do with it?
    3. EC... It's interesting here too. In Europe, they mainly use AstraZeneca, an analogue of Sputnik. What's in the balance? We look at -https: //www.kla.tv/18974 and read "In Italy, an investigation was launched over the death of a girl after the AstraZeneca vaccination" https://iz.ru/1177392/2021-06-11/v-italii-nachali -rassledovanie-iz-za-smerti-devushki-posle-privivki-astrazeneca.
    What do we see? - The vaccinated die from vaccines. This is a fact and no one can dispute it.
    Question. And then what about Sputnik, an analogue of AstraZeneca?
    But the answer is SILENCE! Why's that?
    4. China Mass vaccination is under the leadership of the CPC vaccine CoronaVac with a killed virus... This is a FUNDAMENTAL discrepancy with other vaccines that use a modified or genetically modified virus. And what is happening in China knows only Comrade. Xi, since the country is closed in terms of information on covid.
    Bottom line. Everywhere there are complications and deaths after being vaccinated with the most recognized vaccines. The simple logic of common sense asks the question, what about us? How?
    And we have SILENCE and TERROR! The state lied, lies to the country and does not consider it necessary to start a conversation with the population on the most pressing issues. The population is garbage for power. And the main obstacle to vaccination in Russia is the question of trust in the authorities. Instead of dialogue, "bend", "force", "where are you going to go", ie tightening the nut. Doesn't the government think that by September the thread will rip off?
    And further! If we have an Indian strain, then why:
    1.saved flights with India
    2. new flights with other countries are being opened
    3. mortality per 100 thousand cases in India is almost 3 times less than in Russia now?

    After answering these questions, there will be a result and not otherwise!

    *BUT! Why did the number of deaths increase 2 times since the beginning of vaccination? !! *
    Well, the latency period does not mean anything .... Not with the beginning of vaccination, the number increased, but the end of the vaccination period coincided with the number of those who could no longer be saved.
    1. +3
      21 June 2021 10: 53
      Quote: Shahno
      Not with the beginning of vaccination, the number increased, but at the end of the vaccination period the number of those who could no longer be saved coincided.

      do you work in covidarium? Fills statalons? Causal relationships between sick and dead?

      explain to the doctor tsifiri ...
      1. +4
        21 June 2021 13: 49
        Dear Silvestr! I read your comments with great interest. The person you are, judging by the rating on VO, is authoritative, connected with medicine and have come across Covid-19 repeatedly and closely.
        After much hesitation and thought, I decided to vaccinate. There is still time until the appointed date.
        I ask you to share your opinion and give a simple concrete answer / advice. Well, so that I and others understand it. Something like:
        I, Sylvester, believe that you need / don't need to get vaccinated against Covid-19 because:
        And please, without any wise numbers. I will definitely read your opinion and think about it.
        I'm under 50, man. Last year I was ill.
        Thank you in advance.
        1. +7
          21 June 2021 18: 22
          Quote: tasha
          I ask you to share your opinion and give a simple concrete answer / advice. Well, so that I and others understand it. Something like:
          I, Sylvester, believe that you should / shouldn't be vaccinated against Covid-19

          The answer is: Y. Sylvester, I think that vaccination is necessary, but taking into account the indications and contraindications. Choosing from the available consequences, you should choose EPIVAC, which gives the least side effects. However, before vaccination, it is better to determine the titers of immunoglobulins M and G, so as not to be in a situation where you are injected with the vaccine in a state of illness or its consequences. According to world practice, this must be done, but in our country, to speed up the vaccination process, this is not provided. With high credits imm. G It is dangerous to be vaccinated, after a past illness, vaccination requires an interval of 6-9 months, when your immunity works. Vaccination of pregnant women, about which Gunzburg speaks, is madness and a crime according to the world medical canons.
          During vaccination, it is necessary to supervise the health worker to avoid this ...

          The use of vaccines from different manufacturers for the 1st and 2nd vaccinations is a crime fraught with complications.
          In general, vaccination is voluntary. In my case, after the transferred covid, in the presence of a high imm. G vaccination is fraught, especially since after new contacts with covid-patients, my G titer is growing again.
          1. +2
            22 June 2021 03: 43
            Thank you so much for the answer!
            I'm going to take an antibody test ...
    2. +2
      21 June 2021 22: 50
      1. And on what basis did you decide that the state is lying. And what about you? And then give statistics from this state.
      2. Compared to Europe and Israel, do we have terror? At the same time, vaccination is still voluntary in Russia. And there was no lockdown.
      3. If we compare vaccines with cars, then Pfizer is a BMW, but of the first release. there is a prospect, but still in the distant future. And the reason for the complications lies precisely in the innovativeness of the vaccine. The manufacturer decided to risk the health of consumers and won. Sputnik has 20 years of development experience.
      1. 0
        22 June 2021 00: 26
        1.
        Quote: DemikSPb
        And on what basis did you decide that the state is lying.

        https://zen.yandex.ru/media/nasvyazi/dokazatelstva-lji-sobianina-ob-epidemii-v-moskve-6017343c17d39f78df660230
        2.
        Quote: DemikSPb
        At the same time, vaccination is still voluntary in Russia. And there was no lockdown.

        https://yandex.ru/news/story/Moskalkova_soobshhila_chto_poluchaet_mnogo_obrashhenij_odiskriminacii_neprivivshikhsya_grazhdan--bd39dffd06506d30d505a4af8e8c2f85?from=newswizard&lang=ru&persistent_id=149217686&rubric=koronavirus&stid=fLuADCmYcgQLKDfUvfvb&tt=true&wan=1&wizard=story
        3.
        Quote: DemikSPb
        Sputnik has 20 years of development experience.

        In May 2020, the National Center for Epidemiological and Microbiological Research announced the development of a vaccine with no serious side effects. By August 2020, two phase 38 and phase 1,5 clinical trials were completed, with XNUMX subjects each. According to the data provided by the head of the Gamaleya Center, the development of the Sputnik V vaccine cost XNUMX billion rubles.
        This is from Murzilka. Learn materiel
  25. -6
    21 June 2021 10: 45
    The author is right.
    The obligation to vaccinate is outrageous and suspicious, even if you do not know about the involvement of the hosts in such companies, the WHO, the IMF, the physics of viruses, statistics, the existence of biological laboratories, etc.
    Putin and the central government can be justified by the fact that it is transparently clear that the virus was spread and the possibility of additional spread should remain. But questions arise for those representatives of the authorities who zealously began to deepen this campaign, it becomes clear whom they serve.
    What should the people do when sanity is violated?
    Are they going to vaccinate us against each new strain and species?
    Without preliminary research?
    At the expense of what resources?
    Why is there no scientific approach, why are alternative views hushed up?
    How can you trust in this case?
    1. +1
      21 June 2021 22: 52
      The author's non-scientific approach is obvious. Therefore, the author is wrong. His goal is to raise the wave and throw a little on the fan in a small target audience, as directed by the party. But what does the state have to do with it. If you have an interest in this topic, then you can study professional literature. The Lancet magazine, for example.
      1. -1
        22 June 2021 00: 33
        Quote: DemikSPb
        The Lancet magazine, for example.

        https://stateofthenation.co/?p=67190
        https://www.thelancet.com/action/showPdf?pii=S2666-5247(21)00069-0

        https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(21)00899-0/fulltext
  26. +3
    21 June 2021 11: 02
    Quote: Boris55

    The vaccine has been tested for a long time and has not been experimental for a long time. Almost half of humanity is already grafted into it.

    Can you tell me where you can get acquainted with the test protocol for this "long-term experimental" vaccine? Well, at the same time, data on the vaccinated "almost half of humanity"?

    In fact, everything is simpler. Certain "respected people" have invested in vaccine production capacity. And they were going, of course, to make money on it. But something went wrong. Not so with the production of masks. And for some reason no one wanted to buy a miracle vaccine without confirmation of its effectiveness and a test report. Strange right? And when there was an excess of this very vaccine, they began to actively promote it “to the masses”. For budget money, of course. And those in power wanted to spit on the population. Just business, nothing personal.

    PS But in fact, it seems really necessary to be vaccinated. And when and how everyone should decide for themselves.
    1. +3
      21 June 2021 11: 09
      Quote: KSVK
      But in fact, it seems really necessary to vaccinate. And when and how everyone should decide for themselves.

      Tooting. There must be BELIEF in the drug, not in the person

      This is Moscow and the South of Russia - one country
  27. +1
    21 June 2021 11: 23
    A country created with the help of betrayal, treason and crime, where all spheres of life are saturated with cynical lies, "the right of the strong", nepotism and corruption, when an inherited estate society is created, where each class lives according to its own laws and concepts, where people of power are without honor and conscience , the main criterion for success is loot, which measures both spiritual achievements and material, such a country has no prospects for any sane progress and development.
    People so many times have already arrogantly and cynically deceived, they lied and lie already without even trying to hide it, the media and the nobility already despise "slaves" so much that, without thinking about the effectiveness of their mediocre and stupid actions, on the verge of moronicism, they are so stupidly and forcefully trying to achieve a sane result, the more it causes only hatred and resistance. Until the "uncrowned persons" still will not reach that not because of them, but in spite of, thanks to them, the hated and loyal empire, we have a totally literate population. And most importantly, they, stupefied by the dough, permissiveness and complete impunity, who believed in their strength and power, in the power of the dough, forgot that the plebs, so despised and hated by them, are a great and never unconquered, proud people, whose historical victories, this the poor nobility covers up their mediocrity and wretchedness, which they are trying to appropriate for themselves, so this people, who have repeatedly demolished regimes hostile to them, begins to ask questions and show discontent.
    1. -1
      21 June 2021 22: 56
      Yes, you are a real communist, my friend. Straight Gorbachev, Ligachev and Yeltsin in one bottle.
      1. 0
        21 June 2021 23: 12
        I’m an ordinary man in the street, by the way, I didn’t throw out my party card, it’s kept with the registration card at home, here you were not much mistaken, only that party is not there, as I swore allegiance to another country and other people.
  28. -1
    21 June 2021 12: 10
    Confidence in the authorities is low, political indifference with a "-" sign is growing, and accordingly, passive resistance to power initiatives arises among a number of dissatisfied (albeit weakly expressed) groups of the population. The state media have discredited themselves very much with their many years of mediocre campaigns and often hateful images of propagandists. At the same time, the government has turned most of the Internet community against itself very strongly - by attacks on freedom of speech, blocking resources and all these empty and often fruitless attacks on popular instant messengers. Part of the population has a vague image of the conservative, opposing, and socially distant from their position - the position of our modern state. And accordingly, all pushed through initiatives in such conditions will cause a certain level of resistance.
    This is a complex problem. It should also be borne in mind that behind the "patriotic façade" the real efficiency of the state machine at the household level is not assessed very high, and they are organically accustomed to the constant habit of propaganda "to inflate everything to hypertrophy". People do not believe in the fantastic effectiveness of vaccines or in their safety.

    Also, in my opinion, an important point is that our environment is saturated with FORCE. As the screws are tightened in society and people feel this, passive resistance to the object of directed coercion naturally increases in them. If in the pre-globalized world state paternalism was perceived more calmly, then in the era of globalization a person who is not stupid will perceive such methods, often through the prism of contempt and passive resistance.
  29. BAI
    -3
    21 June 2021 12: 12
    1.
    Operation "virus"

    All kinds of visits with different viruses have been around for a long time. Swine flu, avian, etc. It didn’t work, even AIDS is not respected. And then the stars converged - gone. Well, everyone rushed to develop the market of 100 billion a year.
    And so that the people did not relax, different versions went. English. Indian. They'll think of something else right now. And not only did they find black mold in India, but now green mold has started up there. You can wait for yellow, blue, etc.
    It has already been announced that a new one should be vaccinated against the Indian virus. With what? The satellite did it off (I already wrote, using the example of my family, that it has no efficiency), the rest did not pass all the tests. What are the grafts?
    2.
    First, the mass consciousness of the people does not see a big threat in the new virus, it perceives it as a new flu.

    So it is. Deaths from Covid worldwide in 2020 - 2 million. From oncology -7,8, from cardiology - 7,2. And how much more from flu, tuberculosis and other diseases, road accidents, accidents, from old age in the end? Against this background, 2 million is nothing.
    3.
    In foreign policy - a full-fledged alliance with China, a course towards the reunification of the Russian lands and the Russian people.

    But what does this phrase have to do with the topic of the article?
    Like in ancient Rome: "Carthage must be destroyed"?
  30. +1
    21 June 2021 12: 23
    But you don't need to personalize ... the idiotism of everyone who is not instilled into mistrust of the authorities.
  31. +1
    21 June 2021 12: 40
    To raise the welfare of the people, to show concern for them.

    "Every woman has a man, and every man a bottle of vodka"? laughing
  32. -4
    21 June 2021 13: 07
    If you give out loans at a rate higher than the level of profitability of production, you inevitably get a debt crisis.

    How did the author see the crisis?
    In Europe, loan rates are 1,5-2,4%, in China 6-6,5%
    The payback of long-term loans is calculated at local interest rates.
    In the Russian Federation, loans of 11,5% and more - a weak leader in the economy, a weak economy, a weak country - these are local characteristics.
    What is very bad here does not mean that it is bad everywhere - the Russian Federation is economically marking time, the "cash cow" (economy) has been squeezed out, along with milk and entrails, into the budget.
    1. 0
      21 June 2021 16: 11
      "In the Russian Federation, loans of 11,5% and more - a weak leader in the economy, a weak economy, a weak country - these are local characteristics." In a parallel universe, there may be a weak - but in reality more than strong - 6th in the world in terms of PPP and with minimal debt, as well as a real economy that is not filled up like everyone else with nothing secured by paper from a printing press.
  33. +4
    21 June 2021 13: 11
    I would raise the question not about the crisis of people's confidence in the authorities, but about the crisis of the sanity of fellow citizens.
    Those of my relatives who were vaccinated did not experience any side effects. And among them are people aged 40 and 60 years. All my other relatives (including me) within a radius of three hundred kilometers have been ill with fucking covid in various (and severe too) forms. With confirmed diagnoses. And everyone got infected within two months. And most of them wait until six months have passed to get vaccinated.
    1. -6
      21 June 2021 13: 57
      "Those of my relatives who were vaccinated did not experience any side effects. And among them people in their 40s and 60s. All my other relatives (including me) within a radius of three hundred kilometers have been ill with fucking covid in different (and severe) form. "
      do you get paid to advertise? how much is it worth? maybe I should do it too? that your family is as painful as they used to be, that they have not died out of whooping cough or a runny nose?
      1. +2
        21 June 2021 13: 59
        Quote: aglet
        do you get paid to advertise?

        And you for anti-advertising?
        Quote: aglet
        that your family is so painful

        Look for yours.
        Quote: aglet
        how they didn’t die out from whooping cough or runny nose before?

        Some, as I will see, live without brains and do not completely die out for themselves.
        1. -5
          22 June 2021 11: 45
          "Look for yours."
          and what to look after her? normal able-bodied, healthy family, you cannot compare
          "Some, as I shall see, live without brains and do not completely die out for themselves."
          well, they don't die out of it, judging by you
          1. +2
            22 June 2021 12: 18
            Quote: aglet
            well, they don't die out of it, judging by you

            What a deep thought, however ... And that's all your intellect has thought of in a whole day?
            1. -5
              22 June 2021 12: 22
              "And that's all your intellect has thought of in a whole day?"
              Do you think that you mean something to me, that I think of you for days? when I read it, then I answered. there are such numbers, if intelligence allows, you can see when read-answered
  34. -2
    21 June 2021 13: 17
    Quote: Lannan Shi
    Quote: evgen1221
    The amendment, while the billion is old, our 140 million (no), in general, will go to zero.


    This is the age pyramid of China. According to the results of the 2010 census.

    This one is ours. 2019.
    Now let's compare. Our pyramid is population decline. A very disgusting fact. But. There is at least one pleasant moment. Smooth decrease. There is only one problem. The population is dwindling, and that's about it.
    China pyramid. While there is no reduction. But there are two predominant groups. Localized by the ages of 50-60 and 30-35 years. This is adjusted for the fact that the pyramid is 10 years old. The age group 0-20 years, which should replace them in the next 15-20 years, is approximately 2,5 times inferior to these groups. By the way, a drop in numbers is also not far off. it seems that in 5-6 years the population of China will begin to decrease. But this is not a problem, and not even a problem against the background of the fact that in a year or two a real priest begins. In place of 2-3 retired workers by age, only one will take over ... And in 20-25 years, for 1 worker, in China, there will be 2 pensioners.
    And this problem has no solutions. In principle, it does not. It will be stupid to increase the birth rate sharply. The restrictions in China were lifted a long time ago, and they even started to encourage them. But the birth rate is falling. The path of capitalism is the path of degeneration of humanity. Neither the Russians nor the Chinese want to give birth to a bunch of children, just so that the billionaire has a free slave. Yeah. And even if it succeeds, it will only exacerbate the problem. It is difficult for two workers to provide for four pensioners and one child. On the brink of survival. And maybe beyond. But the same two, four pensioners and four children? It's easier to hang yourself. That is why I speak. China, in the medium term, has no optimistic development scenarios in principle. Or firing ditches, for hundreds of millions of old people, or such a degradation of the economy, against the background of which our 90s are the times of a joyful and carefree life. Yes

    I liked the form ...
    1. -2
      21 June 2021 14: 21
      Quote: Shahno
      It is difficult for two workers to provide for four pensioners and one child. On the brink of survival. And maybe beyond. But the same two, four pensioners and four children? It's easier to hang yourself.


      Well, in China, the indigenous population was allowed to give birth to a third child (the national minorities had such an opportunity before).
      And there will be no catastrophe - a failure of 20 years, when "one" will have to feed "two", but the Chinese authorities introduced payments to pension funds in advance (by the end of the 90s) and partially neutralized the problem of pension payments for the current and future generations)
      Contributions to the pension fund in the PRC are 11% of the employee's salary. Of these, 7% are paid by the employer, and 4% - by the future pensioner himself

      And since pension funds are growing slowly, the main deficit is expected by 2050 (335 million unemployed due to retirement age).
      That is, the PRC has 20-30 years old to replenish the number of working youth - a difficult task, I do not argue.
  35. +4
    21 June 2021 13: 33
    During the cholera epidemic of 1830–1831, a wave of riots that were called cholera riots swept across the Russian Empire. The population did not like everything that was associated with cholera, from the danger of infection to the price increases that accompany any disasters. Of course, the matter could not do without rumors that cholera was invented by doctors who themselves poison the water, and the unfortunate people are locked in hospitals and quarantines, etc.

    Andrey Sazonov "Coronavirus and Other Infections: CoVarious Realities of World Epidemics".
  36. +1
    21 June 2021 14: 54
    And I really thought anti-vaccines died out, because extensive damage to the lungs and complications in the heart and kidneys do not lead to anything good. Well, there is no more enchanting schizophrenia about chipping and the need to burn 5g towers. The author's appeal is clear - do not get vaccinated, spread the epidemic, and then you see, a new quarantine will be introduced and the people will shrink in finances, it will be easier to sway the power - profit, and after us even a flood
  37. 0
    21 June 2021 15: 01
    The author, he is still a bawler ... Krishchis of trust, segregation ... And when bandits and rapists are imprisoned - is this also segregation? Or thieves with scammers, if the bandits are too tough? But both of them pose a threat to society in general and individual citizens in particular. As well as those who do not want to be vaccinated and thereby contribute to the spread of covid.
  38. -1
    21 June 2021 15: 30
    Come on, get vaccinated, why tryndet?
  39. +1
    21 June 2021 15: 53
    Everything is like in a fairy tale about a shepherdess. shouted.
  40. 0
    21 June 2021 18: 31
    What are the words that segregation of the population ...
    Well, let's stay at home and continue and wait until everyone who is not resistant to this infection will die out.
  41. 0
    21 June 2021 21: 57
    I will add my opinion to the topic.
    The fall in confidence in the authorities is a global phenomenon at this level of history. For example, in South America, people vote without hope of change, but they vote because it is mandatory by law. Why so, I think it is connected with the fall in the standard of living in the entire Western world, although in the United States they do not pay attention to this, there is also a fall in the standard of living, but thanks to an aggressive policy this fact is hidden.
    But in South America, the politics are weak and the economic crisis is in full view - Colombia, Venezuela, Brazil, Argentina are suffering from the fall of the currency. For example, in Argentina, the dollar has grown tenfold in three years and the salary in two.
    And so that people do not think about it, they are presented with LGBT values ​​and a blank mater ... In Argentina, where blacks are never kept as slaves.
    In the midst of the devaluation, they turned their attention to abortion, a very painful topic.
    (Abortion was prohibited, he was executed by six years in prison, but it was not executed in any way to shoot a pregnant woman in the stomach)

    As a result, the people hate all power, before there was one party in power for 15 years, no one liked it, another party came, no one liked it at all, and on the street you can see the sprouts of fascism as a protest.
  42. 0
    21 June 2021 22: 04
    At the expense of vaccines, in Argentina, the Nazis want to be vaccinated with the English or American vaccine and 80% of the population with the Russian vaccine.
  43. +1
    21 June 2021 22: 39
    Yes, Samsonov distorts facts as naturally as he inhales air. But today, 21.06.21/XNUMX/XNUMX in the morning, we have already noted the striking consistency of the anti-vaccination campaign. And her goal is clear - to destabilize the situation by any means.
    1. 0
      22 June 2021 00: 35
      Quote: DemikSPb
      And her goal is clear - to destabilize the situation by any means.

      Than nonsense to write, it is better to answer the questions that are. There are questions, but no answer. And without answers to questions, there is no understanding and it looks like this
  44. 0
    22 June 2021 00: 30
    The article is very superficial, full of emotions and cliches. There are no figures or facts. I would like to note the main message "the authorities are to blame for everything and failed vaccination." But I'm unpleasant for us, for the citizens of Russia.
    There is such a concept "interests of society". When a critical situation comes with a threat to the Society (everything), its conscious members push aside their personal interests and work for the interests of society. In another way, it is "get together with the whole world and solve the problem."
    Now, in the country, the authorities are trying and doing a lot in the interests of society (to combat the pandemic). Yes, not everything is smooth, there is something to criticize for, but the work is going on and noticeable. But a large number of ordinary people took the position of "my house is on the edge." In our team of fifty people, at the moment, less than a dozen have taken root (I, too, although I had been ill in a mild form). The most common answer of the rest is "then somehow". At the same time, our organization is in a high-risk group (active work with people). There is a vaccine, the queues are tolerable, there is time, there is a need (in our winter people who were sick last spring started to get sick with COVID for the second time), but there is no understanding that now you personally have to put aside your "want-don't-want" what SHOULD be grafted. What is needed is not Putin, not the state, not doctors, not someone's ratings, but our society as a whole needs it.
    We have all, so far, failed miserably on this conscientiousness test.
  45. -2
    22 June 2021 04: 58
    I think that the point of no return has already been passed. The author writes everything correctly, but ... Time is lost. Most likely, after Putin, Russia will be torn apart, like the USSR. Not the Americans, but their own "Abramovichs", because it is easier to plunder the country this way. And no rockets will help. The USSR was also destroyed and destroyed by lovely, progressive Soviet comrades. I hope I won't live to see this moment.
  46. +2
    22 June 2021 05: 06
    And our footballers are weird! As they did not know how to play, they still do not know how, although 60 years have passed since the amazing championship of 1962. And it is high time for Cherchesov to go to a nursing home, to write his memoirs about the hard work of a loser coach.
  47. -3
    22 June 2021 07: 04
    good article, generally agree with the author, with the exception of china, this snake with wings is a situational companion, no more, in the future an obvious enemy.
  48. +1
    22 June 2021 07: 18
    Unfortunately, modern "science" has turned into a "priestly caste" of grant-eaters destroying any dissent with the help of "Committees on pseudoscience" created by "Zionist puppeteers".
    And these "scientists" are no longer able to go beyond the imposed logic of "cave materialism".
    ***
    Artificial Intelligence, which we know as "Money", was formed on the planet Earth hundreds of millions of years ago.
    This AI is based on the idea directly opposite to the idea of ​​God and is called "Mamon" in the Bible.
    It operates on the basis of a triadic logic and has the following logical poles: Debit Debt - Cash - Credit Debt.
    At the moment, there is practically not a single person and not a single computer on the planet who would not be engaged in the maintenance of Money.
    People as such do not interest him at all - this explains the periodic destruction of Civilization.
    At the moment, human Civilization has approached the next "Reboot".
    ***
    The Basic Law of Evolution is "discomfort of an individual is the main condition for the survival of a species."
    The main weapon of Money against Humanity is the creation of comfortable living conditions.
  49. -4
    22 June 2021 07: 41
    The people are not vaccinated for the following reasons: 1- documents are required for vaccination, in particular the compulsory medical insurance policy, which many have .... No! Many believe that the modern so-called free medicine in Russia is a profanation and they themselves are insured in various insurance companies where there is a medical component, the compulsory medical insurance policy itself is actually not so easy to obtain, because people do not receive it, but use corporate insurance.
    2- you need to go to the clinic for vaccination, where normal people try not to go for fear of any infection,
    3- inconvenient working hours of vaccination stations, people now work for 10-12 hours and they have neither the time nor the energy to go to these vaccinations after work.
    4- there are side effects after vaccination and therefore people do not want to suffer from these side effects in the workplace, given that many now have a busy schedule and work regime, which is supported by an employer who does not accept any excuses and does not give concessions to health problems.
    1. +1
      22 June 2021 08: 17
      But interesting questions arise
      what is the cost of making a vaccine and what is their profit margin for manufacturers of merchants and how far they are able to go to keep it and what they talked about in Geneva behind closed doors
    2. +3
      22 June 2021 08: 44
      1- documents are required for vaccination, in particular, the compulsory medical insurance policy, which many

      The policy is drawn up in 20 minutes (I did it one time ago), well, it’s the turn to add another 20 minutes.
      2- you need to go to the clinic for vaccination, where normal people try not to go

      We have a crowd of people in the clinic in the morning. In other regions, where I have been over the past couple of years, the same. That is, people go to clinics and how.
      3- inconvenient working hours of vaccination points, people now work for 10-12 hours and they have neither time nor energy after work to go to these vaccinations

      The standard excuse for many. I will not say that everywhere, but in our area, if there is no "emergency", then they calmly let go, they also give the next day off at will (after the first injection, many feel bad). In other regions, as friends say, it is about the same. That is, everything depends on the unwillingness or laziness of a particular person.
      4- there are side effects
      .
      In principle, the remarks are the same as for point 3.
      PS Recently they dropped an anecdote.
      - Why don't you put on a parachute?
      - Oh, well, there can be all sorts of side effects - my back is rubbed, heavy, another four-thread, and there is no 100% guarantee, suddenly it will not open.
  50. -3
    22 June 2021 08: 23
    In the whole article, there is one correct postulate. The people do not believe the authorities. And there is a reason, there is no need to list a total lie from the top, to the last bureaucrats in everyone's ears. But the author gives out idiotic recipes. We went through this Remember.? We will destroy the whole world of violence, and further in the text Nothing is smarter than democracy, the people did not come up with, which, among other things, implies the change of power, and the real one, and not from Panfilova. If something needs to be changed, then the judicial system, and completely And so, development should not be subordinated to politics You look at Peolsha, Romania, but the same Baltic States After all, you enter there and immediately another world I will never forget the bus to Riga In the evening, stop in Velezh, this is our paradise center It is impossible to enter the toilet (hole in the field) At night crossed the border of 30 km and stopped In the toilet it smells of shampoo and everything shines time 5 a.m. Comments are unnecessary If we developed as normal states, we achieved much more, and 1-4 from Denmark Here's how it is
  51. +3
    22 June 2021 10: 29
    Yeah....judging by the comments...I was right.....there is a galloping marginalization of Russian society....and the trouble, as practice has shown...is in man...in an ordinary citizen of the Russian Federation. Alas...there are no people...only the population remains.
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  53. +1
    22 June 2021 11: 55
    The point of no return in relations between the government and the people has been passed. And this point was the amendments to the Constitution; the authorities simply showed that this document has no legal force on the territory of the Russian Federation. What kind of trust can we talk about now? Most of the laws adopted and their implementation are directed against the interests of ordinary citizens of our country.
    1. -4
      22 June 2021 12: 46
      Naturally. There are no more citizens, there is “second oil” - by the way, a very clear definition of the attitude of those who broke through and gained a foothold in power to the rest, whom they “did not ask to give birth”... Yes
  54. -1
    22 June 2021 12: 20
    The topic is sensitive with the vaccine, but I repeat, in Argentina there are two points of view:
    1. Those who are rich and live in resorts in the USA prefer the American vaccine (mostly Russophobic rich people). The Russian vaccine is hated by people who believe that it leaves a microchip in the body that creates a communist way of thinking, as well as by fascists who hate everything Russian.
    2. Normal people, most of whom stand in line for a satellite.
    Many of my friends have already been vaccinated with the Russian vaccine and there is nothing strange with them (they don’t become magnetic, they didn’t become communists, they didn’t lick themselves, and it seems like they survived the second wave of infection normally).
  55. kig
    0
    22 June 2021 15: 21
    I was interested in this:

    course towards the reunification of Russian lands and the Russian people.


    I would like to know in more detail which lands and which parts of the Russian people are proposed to be united and how?
  56. 0
    22 June 2021 17: 01
    ...the main reason for the fact that the government fails to cope with its responsibilities even when it wants to is not named....over the past thirty years, all branches of government have been filled with someone's acquaintances....relatives....friends and lovers.... .as long as there is no crisis, everything works according to the established rules.....but in a crisis, incompetence and stupidity become no better than betrayal....control chains are working worse and worse and more disconnected from the people....and what can be done about it is not very clear ....
  57. -2
    22 June 2021 23: 31
    >Attempts at resistance, like those of Sweden and Belarus, were suppressed and called madness.
    It is madness, Sweden itself admitted that in general it is logical that acting as if there is no epidemic is stupid to the point of disgrace. In southern Italy, at first everyone was also frolicking and joking. Then it became no longer funny.

    >At the same time, the rich and super-rich become even richer, and the poor become poorer.
    Author, when was it different?

    >A new virus that is no worse for humanity than HIV, cancer, drugs
    In some ways it’s worse, because HIV, of course, you won’t get infected with such a high probability from a decent and healthy lady. Cancer does not spread at such a rate; there are few drug addicts among the general mass of normal people.

    >caused by the collapse of the healthcare system, mass physical culture, a sharp drop in the quality of food, a sharp drop in the immunity of people who are intimidated and intimidated from morning to evening. Because people are hooked on medications, which they eat by the handful, instead of prevention, the introduction of healthy lifestyle standards, mass physical education, the development of sports in kindergartens, schools and universities (sports are left to professionals, the rest are self-destructive).

    Our medicine is normal, I recently had surgery under compulsory medical insurance, everything was professional, clean, good food, I was happy.
    What about physical? Have gyms and stadiums been cancelled, have barbells been banned?
    There are sports, vitamins and Chyawanprash, and there is also a powerful immune system.
    About pills and suggestion, you must be writing about the masses, who lack their own brains; only the masses themselves, who are rapidly degrading, are to blame for this. Whoever wants it has it.

    Personally, I will not get vaccinated as it is unnecessary, there are too many antibodies, I will bring the appropriate certificate and politely say goodbye.

    You need to read, develop your brain, physics and spirit, and reforms will begin with yourself.
  58. 0
    23 June 2021 17: 50
    This is the paper they sent me at work today.

  59. 0
    23 June 2021 22: 45
    Each time it’s the same thing - the author’s verbal incontinence on the same theses, with constant illiteracy in economics, tendentiousness in assessing history and delusional proposals. I'm curious, is the editors deliberately putting provocateurs on the air or are they unable to find specialists to weed out at least obvious nonsense?
    1. 0
      27 June 2021 00: 11
      Site 404. Control from there.
  60. 0
    24 June 2021 09: 13
    We need to start by canceling the results of privatization
    1. 0
      25 June 2021 20: 54
      It looks like all vaccinated people will have a QR code, and those who don’t will have restrictions on visiting different places, such as loss of rights
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  63. 0
    27 June 2021 00: 08
    Communists Whiners from 404?? Something new
    1. 0
      28 June 2021 08: 21
      If vaccinated people are not afraid of the virus, then why such persecution of unvaccinated draft dodgers?