Henry II's Lion Armor

Visor of the helmet of King Henry II of France

“Saul dressed David in his own armor.
He put chain mail on him
and put a bronze helmet on his head. "
(First Samuel 17: 38)

Museum collections of knightly armor and weapons. And it so happened that when there was so much armor and weapons in the Tower Museum that only a small part of them could be shown, the British prudently decided to place them in the new museum. But not in London, where there are already enough museums, but in one of the cities on the periphery.

Leeds became this city. And he certainly benefited from this, because, although museums in England are free, there are incomparably more people coming to Leeds. And among its exhibits there is a completely unique knightly armor, about which we: A - first we will tell, and then: B - we will show the techniques of making knightly armor, which many VO readers have long expressed a desire to look at.

So, we have before us the famous "Lion Armor" (1550), which may have been made for King Henry II of France, and today exhibited in the "Gallery of Tournaments" at the Royal Arsenal in Leeds

And they are - side view

It is believed that this embossed "Lion Armor" belonged to King Henry II of France (reigned 1547-1559).

The same armor. Back view

And it was made in Italy in the famous Milanese Negroli family, which by the middle of the XNUMXth century was the most popular manufacturer of this type of armor. The armor got its name from the formidable lion faces that are found on its most visible surfaces. Perhaps most impressive is his helmet, which frames the face with the open mouth of a lion in the manner of antique Roman ceremonial armor.

The lion's face is placed on the helmet in such a way that the hole for the face is in the place of the mouth ...

Shoulders of armor are also decorated with lion faces.

This armor, apparently, was in England from the mid-1620s, after which it was roughly altered, probably in order to increase the front opening of the helmet.

Between about 1640 and 1688, this armor depicted Edouard Montague, second Earl of Manchester, Charles II, Cosimo Medici, and General George Monk, Duke of Albermarle. By the end of the XNUMXth century, it was owned by John Cooper, a gunsmith of the Artillery Council, who apparently borrowed it for an exhibition in the Tower of London. There it was presented as the armor of Charles II and was on display of equestrian figures known as the "Line of Kings", and later was exhibited as the armor of Edward VI, and Charles I.

This armor, despite all its pretentiousness, is combat, and not ceremonial. This is indicated by the shoulder pads of different sizes and the presence of holes on the cuirass for the fore-lance hook. In addition, the shape of the left shoulder pad clearly indicates that the spear should have been clamped under the left arm.

Here they are - holes for attaching a lance hook and shoulder pads of different shapes

However, the armor was made not in the traditional manner of the Middle Ages, but already quite "modern" (naturally for that time), that is, taking into account the use of firearms on the battlefield.

Take a look at these hooks on the cuirass. Do you know what they are for and what is locked on it? And they lock the "spaced armor" - the second invoice for additional armor, which became especially relevant after arquebusses, muskets and pistols appeared on the battlefield.

Lion face elbow pad. The peculiarity of the design of this armor was the combination of gold tapping with high embossing.

And this is a knee pad!

In an upright position (from the floor to the top of the helmet), the armor has a height of 1730 mm, that is, its owner was not tall. The weight of the armor is also not too large: 20,8 kg.

And all the details, including the plates on plate seals, are richly decorated with gold

And finally, plate gloves. Their sockets are also decorated with lion's muzzles, which means that the master had to make sure that the metal in this place was as thin as possible, otherwise it would not be possible to raise his hands in them. Well, and besides, they are clearly designed so that their owner can hold a pistol or a rapier in them, and not just a spear or sword. In this case, a plate gauntlet with one finger would be more suitable.

The armor has no plate shoes. Perhaps chain-mail stockings should have been worn over the entire foot. But on the other hand, plate “fingertips” are put on the forefoot (how else can you put it?), Also decorated with lion's muzzles.
Of course, the manufacture of such armor required an abyss of labor. Well, so how did the masters of that time work on them?

Drawings from the Royal Arsenal in Stockholm will help us learn about this. So...

1. Since most parts of the armor have a round or curved shape, a flat sheet of metal is processed with a hammer with a semicircular working head, stretching the plate in two dimensions, like a fan

2. First, beat so as to obtain large indentations. Then they beat between them so that there are more depressions, but they themselves are smaller in size. The plate gets thinner and longer

3. A round hammer ("hammer-beak") stretches the plate in all directions, allowing you to create bowl-shaped parts

4. Stretching is performed by blows "in the air". That is, you are not hitting the plate against the anvil, but slightly next to it.

5. In order to make a hemisphere, a metal sheet is processed on a special mandrel and simply stretched along it, after which the excess metal is chopped off

6. The hammer when processing such convex parts is used flat, so dents and irregularities are leveled

7. Plates of parts such as bracers are often not flat, but slightly convex, which improves their strength and protective properties. In this case, the finished part is processed with such a hammer.

8. The excess metal of the armor parts is cut off on the anvil with a chisel, but at the same time they put a soft cloth, and on it there is also a “sacrificial plate” - a special sheet of metal that allows not to crush the edge of the workpiece during cutting!

9. Some parts of the armor have ridges that increase their strength and protective properties. To make them, special mandrels were invented.

10. The comb is knocked out with a flat hammer on a mandrel. First you hit each side of the ridge with a hammer, finally, the mandrel is driven very neatly into it.

11. On such a mandrel, the edge is bent ...

12. "Rolled Edge". Many parts of the armor have a curled or folded edge, partly to make it stiffer, and partly to avoid injury from sharp edges. They do it both hot and cold.

13. Holes on parts were often not drilled, but punched, preheating them in order to relieve the arising stresses

14. However, this operation was carried out sequentially, using three punches of different diameters!

15. Riveting. All parts of the armor are somehow riveted to each other or riveted to the skin. It was possible to rivet in several ways: for example, with a hammer or a rivet mandrel, as a result of which a neat convex rivet is formed. Cold riveting

16. Rivet of a leather strap with a rivet. The rivet cover is pressed against the hard end of the wood, the sheet metal and washer are put on the rivet. Then the rivet is crimped with hammer blows

As you can see, everything is not so difficult.

There are people who cold forged such armor in their kitchens, and annealed them on a gas stove. True, how their wives and neighbors treated this, I do not know. But they made the armor!

Comments

[SERGE ANT]

“Oh, what a beauty! Whisper! " ©

[Richard]

So, we have before us the famous "Lion Armor" (1550), which may have been made for King Henry II of France, and today exhibited in the "Gallery of Tournaments" at the Royal Arsenal in Leeds

Here one can only guess whose armor it is.
On the one hand, it is advantageous to consider that this embossed "Lion Armor" was made by King Henry II of France. To the king who died in a knightly tournament. This dramatically increases the status of both the armor and the museum. But nowhere is there a single mention of the fact that Henry II of Valois had this armor. But something else is well known:

Between about 1640 and 1688, this armor depicted Edouard Montague, second Earl of Manchester, Charles II, Cosimo Medici, and General George Monk, Duke of Albermarle. By the end of the XNUMXth century, it was owned by John Cooper, a gunsmith of the Artillery Council, who apparently borrowed it for an exhibition in the Tower of London. There it was presented as the armor of Charles II and was in an exhibition of equestrian figures known as the "Line of Kings", and later was exhibited as the armor of Edward VI, and Charles I

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On the other hand, I don’t know about Karl 1 and Karl 2, but this armor certainly wouldn’t have fit for Edward VI, he was in his famous father in sprout and body. But the lion's armor in terms of the height of its owner is quite identical to the ceremonial armor of Henry II of Valois from the collection of The Metropolitan Museum of Art. And according to its age, too.
So the hypothesis that he was made for Heinrich has a right to exist.
Thanks to the author for such beauty.

[Richard]

My personal opinion is that this armor was still made specifically for Henry, but not for King Henry II, but for the future King Henry II, the Dauphin Henry of Orleans, who became King of France in 1547.
The absence of the royal crown on the armor confirms that they were not intended for the king, but for the dauphin, besides, the armor is decorated with the emblem of the dauphin - dolphins. The armor is decorated with a very beautiful pattern, in which they meet: three intertwined crescents - the personal emblem of Heinrich Valois, intertwined letters "H" and "C" - the monogram of Heinrich and his wife Catherine de Medici, letter "D" and a quiver with arrows in honor of the favorite Diana de Poitiers. The pattern applied to the armor is made in the form of alternating lines of black and silver, thus indicating the personal colors of the Dauphin - black and white.

[kalibr]

You are good at thinking, Richard. It does you credit!

[Richard]

Full ceremonial armor of King Henry II of Valois of France.
One of the most famous "parade" of the middle of the XVI century. Very rich armor of the highest quality. Overall height 1880 (74 in.), Weight 24,2 kg (53 lb. 4 oz.).
The armor is decorated with reliefs on antique themes, grotesque images of monsters and monsters. Used gilding, silvering, blackening. Part of the armor decor was designed by Jean Cousin the Elder c. 1490-c. 1560 and Baptiste Pellerin 1542-75. This is known because twenty sketches of the decor of this armor have survived, signed by these French masters. Perhaps Étienne Delaunne also participated in the design of the armor.
Armor from the collection of The Metropolitan Museum of Art.

[Richard]

Full dress armor of King Henry II of Valois of France. (Continued)

[Kote Pan Kokhanka]

Quote: Richard

But on the other hand, plate “fingertips” are put on the forefoot (how else can you put it?), Also decorated with lion's muzzles.

Hello!!
Red trousers with a skirt are valid!

[depressant]

I just thought about it, but you said)))
Greetings to all! )))
Yes, technology has already achieved such perfection. And then, when the need passes, they are lost. I wonder if any workshop can make something like this now? Manually?

[Korsar4]

As part of the "reverse conversion"?
What you do is where you improve.
And the court gunsmiths are now doing something else.

[depressant]

Court gunsmiths? Now?
Sergei, this is probably a hint - to what? In the morning I am shaking from the cold and numb. The weather is still! The coffee did not help, I take the second cup.

[Korsar4]

Just about modern weapons manufacturers.


“I'm not hinting at anything.
I'm just singing a song ”(c).

[Trilobite Master]

Quote from Korsar4

And the court gunsmiths are now doing something else.

Lion armor? You are welcome! Here is a modern replica.

And what, every time has its own armor ...

[depressant]

Laughed heartily and with contrast)))
Your face - even now put on your armor, a knight without fear and reproach, and a suit - that still a lion's skin!

[Richard]

Lion armor? You are welcome! Here is a modern replica.

Armor of the cavalier Boniface DeVellur. This armor is from the Lenin Metropolitan collection. Exit to the station Kuzminki

[Korsar4]

They are called kigurumi. Small daughters have a giraffe and a tiger.

[Fat]

Quote: depressant

Manually?

They can, Lyudmila Yakovlevna. Practically on your knees, with the help of simple devices, a graver, a hammer and a swear word

[depressant]

Andrey Borisovich, good morning!)))
You haven't been there for a long time, it's nice to see you)))
A swear word is powerful! It really stimulates inspiration that generates a sudden solution to a problem. )))

[3x3zsave]

"" - A swear word will not make the cards successful, and the wind will not make them fair. "
- Is that from the Bible, Father?
- The Holy Father is in Rome. No, it's from Jack London. "(C)

[Trilobite Master]

Quote: depressant

I wonder if any workshop can make something like this now? Manually?

If someone is willing to pay, why not? From the third to the fifth attempt - it's easy! Another thing is that with modern technologies the same can be done much faster. And by creating an appropriate matrix, one can also establish mass production and stamp copies of such armor on an industrial scale.

[depressant]

Misha, indeed, the first thing he thought about was 3D printing. They say that any program can be written there, and a home machine will make everything in the best possible way. Now work is underway to make it possible to print with any metal and alloys. And the relief, all sorts of bulges, concavities, grooves, is not a problem for a long time. Here fantasy is in no way limited by technology.

[Trilobite Master]

Exactly. To do this manually is a waste of time and effort, alas. But I am sure that if you provide some master with full allowance for a year or two and set the task of creating something similar or even more complicated, manually, without using presses and other modern equipment, giving him only the appropriate amount of rolled steel, he will cope in the best possible way.

[3x3zsave]

To do this manually is a waste of time and effort, alas.
Here you are wrong, Mikhail! After all, our reenactors are not for nothing considered the most "sick in the head." Historical identity is not enough for them, they need attributes made by technologies authetical to the era!

[Trilobite Master]

For the blacksmith profession, this has little effect. Yes, there is little demand, that's all. By and large, it does not form a stable market, so the blacksmiths themselves have to work either to order, or to make cheap fakes, hack, which are sold at all sorts of festivals, etc. those who are "not in the subject", "tourists".

[3x3zsave]

By the way, "Fly" is still preparing blacksmiths. True, few make it to the diploma. And they practically have nowhere to practice.

[Fat]

Anton. There is nothing more to restore in St. Petersburg? No private forges? Nobody is busy with exclusive bikes? is it so bad? Somehow I can't believe it.

[3x3zsave]

1. There is something, and more than.
2. Yes, but exclusive.
3. Other offices are engaged in "bikes".
4. If suddenly I need to recreate chain mail using old technologies ... Well, I don't know who else I will turn to, except for the St. Petersburg idiots.

[Undecim]

I wonder if any workshop can make something like this now? Manually?

Maybe they do.

[3x3zsave]

Get it all right, Viktor Nikolaevich! But, working with gas welding in a T-shirt with a flammable "print" is beyond my understanding of safety precautions.

[Undecim]

There, a gas burner is used only for heating, instead of a forge. Do not dress him with a cloth every time.
I have a different question. There was such a promising phrase: "Well, how did the masters of that time work on them?" And after her - just a few schematic drawings, according to which a person who has never been to a smithy and has not worked there (and there are, I think, the overwhelming majority of them) will never understand how the craftsmen of that time worked.

[3x3zsave]

Do not dress him with a cloth every time.
To put on - definitely! Simply, I saw a couple of remains of such "heroes".

[3x3zsave]

I have another question.
Oi-wei, Viktor Nikolaevich, do not pull on the patient!

[Undecim]

"Sick" in the sense of presentation, or are you seriously interested in the issue?

[3x3zsave]

"Sick," in the sense that I am seriously interested in the era. Have you noticed?

[Undecim]

I meant such a highly specialized issue as the technology of making armor.

[3x3zsave]

The highly specialized interests me too. Under the same question, the cost of the chicken
Actually, my ideal is "to see Paris (1400) and not die". While all my constructs ended in a gallows on Greve Square ...

[Undecim]

Why a gallows? Do you travel Paris as a commoner?

[3x3zsave]

1. Well, I'm a jester.
2. I remember the fate of Angerand de Marigny

[Undecim]

He was hanged at Montfaucon, not at Place de Grève.

[3x3zsave]

They lie shamelessly. This is a later story, like the creator became a victim of creation. The bodies of the executed were hung on Montfaucon.

[Undecim]

Not only. They could be hanged right there, they could be executed elsewhere and hang an already dead body.

[3x3zsave]

Not. Montfaucon was located outside the perimeter of the city walls. The city could not hang there, however, neither could the king.

[Undecim]

You have the wrong information.

http://lionel.mesnard.free.fr/le%20site/Le-Gibet-de-Montfaucon.html

[3x3zsave]

Thank you, I’ll take an interest.
I am still leaning towards a different version.

[Undecim]

The question is the source of the version. In all the English and French-language sources available to me, the version is the same: https://gw.geneanet.org/dussourdb?lang=en&p=enguerrand+iii&n=le+portier+de+marigny

[3x3zsave]

Enguerrand de Marigny being hung. From the Chroniques de France ou de St Denis, BL Royal MS 20 C vii f. 51

[Undecim]

What in this illustration indicates that the body was hanged already dead?

[3x3zsave]

In this illustration, clearly not Montfaucon.

[Undecim]

And how he looked at that time, no one knows for sure. In addition, it was being rebuilt.

[Korsar4]

It was Bonacieux who, on the way to the cardinal, imagined the places where he could be pulled up.

[Korsar4]

At least this is one of the used tracks.

"A man is glorious three times." And not only birth and marriage are mentioned in this proverb.

[3x3zsave]

And this is only Paris, about which "a hell of a lot and more" is known. And then there is London, Munich, Milan, Barcelona ... Veliky Novgorod, after all! And "in each hut, there are rattles" ...

[Catfish]

Good morning everyone, although it's been pouring for the second day here.
Thank you Vyacheslav, beauty ennobles, and in the morning it also cheers up.
I was never fond of chasing, but I did sketches for the guys, unfortunately nothing survived,
time passes and everything goes somewhere.

I don’t know whose armor and where it came from, but I liked it.

[SERGE ANT]

Inspires, and I like armor for horses

[SERGE ANT]

Didn't skimp on beauty for them

[Richard]

And I like the armor of horses

And me at the dogs

[Korsar4]

Such a creature cannot be called a "dog". Fighter!
You will not be very happy about the meeting.

[SERGE ANT]

So, there are horses and dogs, and here are cats

It seems that they have not forgotten anyone.

[SERGE ANT]

Ah! The elephants are still

Where without them.

[Catfish]

It remains to attach a howitzer to the ridge and to buy some tanks for the Indians.

[Richard]

Hi Konstantin
A couple of days ago, here experts discussed with what better to go to the knight. Someone offered a crossbow, someone an arquebus. The men and I in the pub on this topic had a strong argument almost - we had a falling out. Our local "kulibin", a Trudovik from our rural school Sergeich, looked into the noise in the cap. A very smart and intelligent person - he even subscribes to a regional newspaper! Chessword!
Seeing that there was no fight, he was very upset, but remembering that he was still a teacher, he very sensibly explained to those present whom the medieval knights were most afraid of.

[3x3zsave]

It remains only to attach the "earth" to the knight.

[3x3zsave]

Forgot. Mouse and turnip.

[Catfish]

Fighting cat, damn it !!! Respect!

[astra wild2]

Forgot: cows and birds, but what if the cats have combat armor, and the cows also fight. As a child, I saw how cows fought

[astra wild2]

Colleagues, good evening. I haven't even heard of armor for dogs

[Catfish]

Again the side is buggy that they won't set it up in any way.
How do you like that? The signature reads: "Armor of a humpbacked knight", someone decided to pin it, but very textured, however, there is no question of beauty.

[kalibr]

This is an armor from the Metropolitan Museum of Art. They have a whole gallery of such riders!

[The leader of the Redskins]

This is no longer armor, but a work of art! In such a situation, it is probably incredibly regrettable to enter a knightly tournament or a battlefield - they will help, they will break!
Thank you, Vyacheslav Olegovich for the article and illustrations.

[Trilobite Master]

Quote: Sea Cat

I don’t know whose armor and where it came from, but I liked it.

Ephesus of the sword is more like Westeros, perhaps all the armor is from there ...

[depressant]

Misha, are you joking? ))))

[Trilobite Master]

What jokes, Lyudmila Yakovlevna? It cannot be the Middle-earth, there technologies froze at the level of the XIII, from the strength of the XIV century. Perhaps, of course, this is Narnia ... But most likely - Westeros of the time of the late Targaryen ...

Of course I was joking ...

[Pane Kohanku]

But most likely - Westeros of the late Targaryen times ...

Could this be Tamriel from the time of Tiber Septim, better known as Talos? Skyrim for the Nords! And above, you put yourself in a Khajiit costume?

[Trilobite Master]

Skyrim is generally the Early Middle Ages, in my opinion. The pinnacle of evolution is scale armor. What to talk about with these savages?

[Pane Kohanku]

What to talk about with these savages?

About the Daedra and the secrets of the Dwemer. And about Thalmor fascism - these are generally scolded by all and sundry. After all, about cats!

[Catfish]

You will not believe, you have not read any of this and have not seen a single film.

[Pane Kohanku]

You will not believe, you have not read any of this and have not seen a single film.

Uncle Kostya, next time mount a stern uncle in a cap and glasses with views of Skyrim.
Somewhere here

or here:

[Catfish]

And where is it and what is it, and for what reason to transfer it from the real Zone, who knows where?

[Pane Kohanku]

And where is it and what is it, and for what reason to transfer it from the real Zone, who knows where?

Obviously, I didn’t play Stalker, and you didn’t launch Skyrim.

[Catfish]

But you shouldn't have played it, I have never seen anything like it. Atmosphere-s.
And everything that came out later was a second time, including the last Metro, although, of course, beautiful. But you know that beauty (and feminine) alone is not enough for complete happiness.

[astra wild2]

Good evening, we have a deputy for AHC in "Stalker" all the time, Zulka has some kind of shooter on her phone, and I had Karmageddon2. No toys now
I have already "matured"

[vladcub]

I have a simple "bridges". Mine constantly shoots me: "when will you grow up?" She did not succeed and she "matured"
I suspect that you have a similar situation: have you tried a smarter game? So it's time to "grow up"

[Trilobite Master]

Quote: Sea Cat

for what reason to transfer it from the real Zone who knows where?

If you want to relax in nature, our agency recommends Skyrim. The harsh northern nature in landscapes from mountain taiga forests to arctic deserts will not leave you indifferent, and mammoths and bears, saber-toothed lions and dragons will not let you get bored. Deep caves with terrible creatures, ancient tombs full of treasures, ancient castles that keep their secrets, open and honest people, half of which are vile traitors, elves, orcs, cat people and lizard people - you will find all this in Skyrim. Fight with a sword, club or ax, hit enemies (you will have many) with arrows, or use your intellect and magical abilities to achieve respect and reverence from the inhabitants of this harsh mountainous country ...
This is what a travel agency would probably say when selling vouchers.
In fact, what is really good about this game is nature. Views, sounds, animation ... You just relax with your soul, especially on long winter evenings ...

[Catfish]

If you like to relax in nature, then you need to go to Montana, or rather to Fairkray5, the nature and graphics are beyond praise, and the rest is a stupid shooter with an idiotic plot.

[Trilobite Master]

I'm not surprised, Uncle Kostya, that Narnia and Westeros are unfamiliar to you. There is no firearm. And I do not know Farkrai, alas. Although I know Stalker quite well.

[Catfish]

The very first "Fairkray" from Kraitek is very good:

And then they sold this brand and the gag from Yubisoft rushed, monotonous and sad - go, pick flowers to heal the wound - you can urge.
Have you tried STALKER-Lost Alpha?

[Trilobite Master]

Quote: Sea Cat

Lost Alpha tried it?

I don’t remember already.
I played some mods, I even liked it ... Misery, in my opinion, something else ... I don't remember. Now on the computer there is OP-2, and three classic games, sometimes, it happens, I sit down, poke around ...
In general, shooters are not very good for me, the Stalker series is an exception.

[Catfish]

... shooting games are not very good for me,

I'm not very good either. And what kind of OP-2?
They downloaded Cyberpunk to me here, but it doesn't work at all, instead of rest there is some kind of nonsense.

[Trilobite Master]

OP-2 - United pack on the platform "Shadow of Chernobyl". The guys collected a bunch of different mods and sewed them together. Everything is the same, but more of all: weapons, equipment, artifacts, characters, tasks, etc. The plot is so long that I did not go through to the end, and I doubt whether there is this end ...
And I personally have not been uploading anything new from games on a computer for a long time. Sometimes the son will download something, play, erase.
I have Stalker, Total War, Skyrim and Mount and Blade. I have enough. Not one game has been completed to the end, except Skyrim, but there, at the end of the main plot, you can take additional assignments, so sometimes I sit down to my mood: I want to relax "in nature", such as a picnic with zombies - Skyrim, shoot - Stalker, just a huge meat killing with an ax with your own hands - M @ B, and to see how others kill each other at your order - Total Var.
I'm waiting for Stalker-2 when it comes out ... Or is it all fairy tales?

[Catfish]

I'm waiting for Stalker-2 when it comes out ..

I'm also waiting, but there are already serious fears that the game will have a specific "square" smell, and the new Shooter will turn out to be an ardent supporter of Stepan Bandera. I would really not like it, but the habitat dictates the conditions, one hope for the natural resourcefulness of Grigorovich, as a representative of a nation that knows how to survive in any conditions, after all, Russia has a colossal sales market, not without reason all the games in the series were released in Russian.
And I just got stunned, downloaded "Shadows of Chernobyl" and sit, enjoy it from the bottom of my heart.

Yes, Misha, did you play the very first "Mafia"?

[Trilobite Master]

Quote: Sea Cat

played the very first "Mafia"?

No, I haven't played, I can't even imagine what kind of game it is, in what genre.
My games are Dune, Warcraft, Diablo, Stronghold, and what I listed earlier. Well, a few quests with pleasure in due time passed. For example, "Black Mirror", but we were the whole family, with my wife and small children. Everything, probably. Since I play relatively infrequently, I don't have time to get bored. In this case, you can switch depending on your mood from one to another ... In short, the gamer of me is so-so.
As for Strelka, there is a localization issue. Change the voice acting and, if necessary, some textures - change the monuments to Lenin and Bandera in places, for example ... Especially for Russia.
It is clear that our market is more important for Grigorovich than the Ukrainian one, because more, it is unlikely that he will be scattered with money, and politics ... Will do it is necessary and sufficient for the game to be released in Russia, I think.

[Catfish]

"Mafia" is the first toy I got hooked on, my son got hooked, by the way. It felt like I was in the middle of an interesting and adventurous feature film as the main character. All subsequent games under this name win in graphics and miserably lose in plot. For the first "Mafia" they made a remake with exceptional graphics, simultaneously turning all missions into stupid shooters without what was in the first game - without the possibility of choosing options for passing. I have an old disc, sometimes I play, remembering my "youth".

[Pane Kohanku]

The very first "Fairkray" from Kraitek is very good

Recently downloaded, I decided to remember the past ...

[Catfish]

Well, right, it's worth it.

[Korsar4]

I’m thinking - who will take care of the “protection” now?
For whom - for cyclists, and those who ride on roller skates?

[depressant]

Good morning! )))
For cyclists? Yes, full of such. I looked at the protection for motorcyclists, it is also in the version for cyclists. Impressed. Full bodycon suit and many attachments to it. For example, a motorcycle armored vest, it is also in the version of a protective chest vest for cycling, as well as in an armored vest for motocross, for off-road racing. This design is called "vest", but it looks more powerful than armor. The cost of "consumer goods" varies from 2000 to 4000 rubles.
I will say this: it looks impressive. And the aesthetics ... It is different now, it is now the aesthetics of "Star Wars".

[3x3zsave]

for cyclists and roller skaters?
These do not need protection. "At least a little mind can enter a small crack in the head" (C)
A couple of months ago, with a feeling of deep satisfaction, I watched the traffic cops fine a cyclist.

[depressant]

Anton, so you managed to revive me - "into a small crack in my head ...")))

In our village, they hate cyclists who drive along the sidewalks interspersed with pedestrians burdened with bags. They also hate cyclists who drive along the road. Everyone hates cyclists. But in vain. You have to get along with them.
And in general ... A bicycle is a means of transportation that depends only on your muscular strength. Only!
This moment makes you think hard.

[3x3zsave]

But in vain. You have to get along with them.
So I get along. Everyday.
Unfortunately.

[depressant]

And, in this sense ... I sympathize, Anton!
Yes ... What can I say. I just won't say anything.

[3x3zsave]

Simply, two-wheeled ones were added to the four-wheeled fools on the roads. But the former at least do not consider themselves immortal.

[depressant]

Anton, now fate is getting angrier. It's time to start controlling her. Well, nothing can be given to chance! Even that which does not depend on you.

[Richard]

They hate cyclists in our village

Behind the fields, gardens, behind the apiary
Don't get away from picky eyes.
To those who keep their bike in their bosom,
Oh, and it's hard in our village! (from)

[3x3zsave]

Concealed carrying of a bicycle is prohibited by law.

[Richard]

If you have the necessary permission and the saddle is disconnected, then you can (and when transporting in an airplane, the saddle from the bike is supposed to be handed over to the crew of the airliner).
Below there is a whole discussion on concealed wearing going

Sea Cat (Constantine): I wear mine in a shoulder holster

Krasnodar: Above butt saddle down is comfortable to wear. Literally three days of training, you already pull out pretty quickly

Trilobite Master (Michael): The front behind the belt is another matter. Very comfortably. A slight inconvenience - stealth is lost

ee2100 (Alexander): And I like it more under the left mouse

[3x3zsave]

Below there is a whole discussion on concealed wearing going
With them and pinned.

[3x3zsave]

saddle disconnected
By the way, in Barcelona, ​​leaving the bike on the street, the owner removes the saddle.

[Richard]

saddle disconnected

So I was pinned too, by analogy with a pistol magazine

in Barcelona, ​​leaving the bike on the street, the owner removes the saddle.

Thanks for the important information. Now I have a great excuse from my wife.
-When are we finally going to Barcelona?
- Alas, my dear, we will not be allowed there - on our great saddle rusted to the frame and cannot be removed. Let's go on it better to the regional center. There - I pedal. you're on the frame, back - let's change places

[astra wild2]

Colleagues, are you talking about short-haul?

[Richard]

Not . this is a bicycle forum

[Phil77]

Yeah, yeah, have you forgotten about these * non-bikers?

Greetings to friends and comrades!

[Richard]

Hi Hi.
We have not forgotten anything. We just don't mention them specifically with Anton, so as not to upset Lyudmila Yakovlevna

[Richard]

Women like to read about knights, because every child dreamed of a prince on a white horse

[astra wild2]

As a child I dreamed of riding a horse like Ksanka from "The Elusive Avengers"

[Richard]

As a child I dreamed of riding a horse like Ksanka from "The Elusive Avengers"

[Catfish]

Dima! Thank you! Luxurious video, whinnying right up to colic.

[Phil77]

Join us! I laughed with pleasure before the working day.

[Korsar4]

The Cossacks are still learning such somersaults.
The perfect jockey.

[Catfish]

The film "The Boar Chasers" has just shown his wife, a few more minutes of mutual cheerful laughter.

[astra wild2]

Thanks for the video. The girls are delighted.

[Catfish]

All dreamers dream about what, but ... as it was said: "Fear the dream come true."

[Richard]

Konstantin
You have to be a completely frostbitten masochist to dream with a shot of running around - even just without a machine gun in panties and a T-shirt around the stadium

[Catfish]

It was easier for me, I had a P-113 in the tank. Throw an inverted headset on the tower and listen to Chinese propaganda in Russian, we had it instead of Raikin's speeches, after all, our cultures are very different.

[vladcub]

There are a lot of such "bikers". I bought myself a "three-wheeled" one, and now I think: I had to take an electric scooter

[Phil77]

Well, yes. Anton and I have already talked about this. You go and smoke, you think about pleasant topics, and behind you, baaaats! And this misunderstanding on wheels unexpectedly overtakes you so much. It’s unpleasant, you know.

[Richard]

A 30-year-old neighbor drives an electric wheel with a seat pad to work. In the morning, he leaves the house, spreads it out and rushes off. In the evening he arrives, puts it in the house to exercise. For the price, this thing pulls for an average car

[Catfish]

... with a sense of deep satisfaction, I watched the traffic cops fine the cyclist.

I didn't understand this until I got behind the wheel myself.
"Damned private owner in green, red, white Zhiguli" (c)

[3x3zsave]

After I got behind the wheel, I became a very neat pedestrian.

[Catfish]

And Masha still grabs me by the hands so that I do not climb under the wheels, what to do, a conditioned reflex acquired in Soviet times, you can get rid of only by getting under the wheels, but so far God has mercy.

[depressant]

Kostya, spit it! The more savory, the more reliable.
By the way, it is also raining in our suburbs.
This is the result of climate warming. I remember exactly this kind of weather has always been on the eastern coast of the Black Sea. June - rains all the way, July - unbearable heat until about August 10-20, a sudden storm, cold snap - that's it, summer is over. Rare rains, interspersed with some periods of clear calm weather - velvet season. And then - ice rains, winter with possible snow. And all this climatic "beauty" at that time was called subtropics. I do not know what is there now, but what happened seemed to have moved to Central Russia, with the exception of winter.

[Catfish]

Kostya, spit it!

Father Fyodor spat and got hit too. "(C)

We also have rains, for the third day already, Lucky is most dissatisfied of all, regularly comes up to me with an indignant cry, like, turn off this water from the sky, there is no longer any life.
The grass is flooded again, mow again, and so we live.

[depressant]

Kostya, the trouble is that those types of trees that are zoned in the north of the Moscow region are not ready for such an amount of moisture. The trunks and branches of some of them were covered with a thick layer of disgusting yellow moss, which does not even think to disappear, and yesterday the leaves on many of the trees, even the other day, when the sun was shining brightly, suddenly began to curl and turn black. At my western window there are luxurious tall rowan trees. So there are not only leaves - some bunches have turned black and hung dead. If this climatic drama continues, then we will be left without the usual flora, and where can we get the new one?

[Catfish]

We do not have such an outrage so far. Rowan grows on the site, but everything is in order with it. As for the rest ... "Here they are, trams!" in the sense of a rocket and everything else that ruins nature.

[Korsar4]

It will come from the south. But not fast.
Linden returns.
Ceased to massively tear on the bast.

[depressant]

They stopped tearing the lipa, but with special enthusiasm they began to rip off the man. I just had a clash with the accounting department of the ZhEKa, they counted 1200 extra ones, although I pay on time and as they say. And here from somewhere - a debt. And before that he ripped off Sberbank for electricity and so on, but you can't argue there, for going to Moscow. And now my hands are shaking. Apparently the bloodsuckers think I'm a counterfeiter. I will print as much as they require.

[Phil77]

Unimaginable boredom reigns on the site today. What is it? Calm before tomorrow's storm? Even reluctance to get into the "football" theme. Well, they removed the inscription from the neighbors' uniforms and what? , until recently it was a holiday for the fans. Today? Better not. Alas, but boredom.

[depressant]

Seryozha, the weather is whispering. Above all of Russia there is a cloudy sky, here and there light rains are pouring, dampness has seized, as if we are all immersed in an aquarium filled with water, and we slowly crawl along the bottom and therefore we are all sleepy.
At least that's how it seems to me.

[Korsar4]

If the task is to arrange the movement, we will arrange it.

As "The Blonde Around the Corner" said:
"And no problem!"

[Phil77]

Hi Sergey, I would like to see the opening match in 55 minutes. And the poster is not bad. Italy-Turkey. The main thing is that the stands are with the audience.

[Korsar4]

Hello Seryozha!
Italians have been cute since 1982. With Dino Zoffa, Rossi, Conti, Gentile.

And even more precisely from the match with the Brazilians.

I remember this championship best of all.

Further - only fragmentarily.

[Phil77]

Now, let's see?

[Korsar4]

Can. Will it be online?
The son is still walking. He's definitely interested.

And who are the Italians at the gate?
After Toldy and Buffon, did someone show up?

[Korsar4]

It's good that we still have winter.

[depressant]

Is it in the Far East?
Apparently, my understanding of geography is weak.

[Korsar4]

Who is in the Far East?
I love to be there, but only on a visit.

And winter in the Center of the Russian Plain is still similar to the real one.
The past year has been rich in surprises.

[depressant]

Oh ... Is your place of residence ... the North Pole? Or, more likely, South?

[Phil77]

No, Lyudmila Yakovlevna, Sergey means that the past winter was without unpleasant surprises, in the form of thaws. A good winter was a success. This summer hasn't come yet.

[depressant]

Note, Sergei himself is silent! )))

[Phil77]

So after all ... work! So after all ... business! So in fact ... busy. Bye. Will have free time, write. We will wait.

[Korsar4]

Evening came. You can go to our tavern.

[depressant]

Well, since we have come, you must admit that you have a water pistol in the summer - a toy, and in the winter - a weapon? )))
Below we discuss the press. I was surprised to learn that Gaius Julius Caesar is the ancestor! It turns out that nothing is new under the Moon.

[Korsar4]

I am ready, like Schweik, to confess everything.
As a child, I once asked my grandmother to buy shampoo in order to convert it into a water pistol.

[depressant]

Imagine, such a charge, but in the eye! )))
The years go on, the child's cruelty goes back, shrinks.

[Korsar4]

I needed a bottle of shampoo. Refueling with water, and it could not be otherwise.

[depressant]

The bottle did not come with the pistol as a spare clip. And the years have passed! And now a larger plastic bottle is gracefully attached to a different device.

[Korsar4]

A larger container is better for collecting birch sap.

[depressant]

Birch sap again! There is a lot that I have not tried, but what I know about - there. Birch sap is available, sometimes sold. But I never had a desire to try. Well this is how to use lymph.

[Korsar4]

I don't like plastic bottles. Although milk in cardboard bags is quite upsetting.

[depressant]

If anything upsets me, it is the contents of the cardboard bags with the inscription "Milk".

[Korsar4]

Here I am about the content. Although it's time to give priority to fermented baked milk and kefir.

[depressant]

So as not to upset the gourmet,
Fermented baked milk in the volume of a glass! ))

[Korsar4]

From the folk:

“Our daughter-in-law is cracking everything.
Honey - and that eats. "

[depressant]

According to the principle "Just don't throw me into the bushes!" (C)

[Korsar4]

Who else will take care of brother Rabbit.

[depressant]

Deliver me from my friends, and I will take care of the enemies myself! )))

[bubalik]

Don't leave me in the dark
Behind blank walls and roofs. (FROM)
,,, it is clear that I destroyed the chain

[depressant]

Over the seas, over the valleys
Kashchei lived in a moral wound.
Don't throw an egg against the wall -
you will acquire Kashchei's genes!

[Korsar4]

This is an open "build model".

“Don't leave the room.
Don't make a mistake ”(c).

[Korsar4]

Quite right, Seryozha!

[vladcub]

"he is not my friend and not my brother" (c)

[ee2100]

"In addition, the shape of the left shoulder pad clearly indicates that the spear should have been clamped on the left under the arm." (C)
Probably on the right.
Good morning everyone !

[kalibr]

It depends on which side you look at. From the back - to the right, from the face - to the left. We look from the face, which means - to the left.

[ee2100]

I like your logic! It depends on which side you look at! Did you try from the side? And from the top, or from the bottom?
Well, you made a mistake in the translation, so admit it!

[kalibr]

Quote: ee2100

Well, you made a mistake in the translation, so admit it!

And yours is not for me! There you had to translate something or just take it and see what's what? Or, in order to look at the cuirass, you need to look at it from below. And the holes are not visible from the side. So "past the cash register". You just have to dig in.

[Catfish]

Fu, Olegych, there are still ladies here, let's leave the barracks for the men.

[kalibr]

I do not like it when it is not on the case.

[Catfish]

Come on, these are all little things.

[depressant]

Kostya ... And what is the barracks? Is it that Alexander gave some instructions to the Author in a not very friendly tone? Or did I not understand something?

[Catfish]

I did not appeal to Alexander, but to Vyacheslav. One addressed "in a not very friendly tone", in my opinion, generally attached to nonsense, but the other responded with purely barracks rudeness. But you did not understand, because Olegych himself deleted this phrase, as I myself just noticed. I deleted it, and I did the right thing - respect.

[astra wild2]

Vyacheslav Olegovich, colleague Alexander (her 2100) dislikes you and does not hide it

[Phil77]

But you, what's the matter ?! They'll figure it out among themselves. Didn't they teach you in the yard? * Two are fighting, the third one don't go in! * Or such an irrepressible desire to prove yourself? Unwittingly, an episode from * Mowgli * comes to mind.
* - *, naturally from me.

[vladcub]

"The desire to prove oneself" is rather different: to protect V. Oh, she is fascinated by him.
Women tend to deify someone. They will defend their idol, but if the idol has not justified the hopes "from love to hate."

[astra wild2]

Thank you for your sincerity

[kalibr]

Aster! Remember what Alexander Nevsky answered to the cries of the Novgorodians: "You do not love us!" - I was not called a lover to you, Veliky Novgorod, but a voivode ... So love - not love - it doesn't matter. It is important that comments are businesslike and informative. Here is how Viktor Nikolaevich. Or at worst - "did not like it." Well ... I don't like cabbage pies either. And why I myself do not know. But when they cling to nonsense, I think it's stupid and unreasonable. Let him learn to "fight" with me by informational methods. But if he doesn’t know how, let him study.

[astra wild2]

And I do not like pies with cabbage, ac with potatoes and fried onions I love

[kalibr]

Just with potatoes and separately with green onions and an egg !!!

[astra wild2]

The father-in-law loved "onion pies". From time to time I buy these for myself, but yesterday I did it with potatoes and fried onions

[Catfish]

And what is not worn under this arm, the very place.

Hi Sasha!
Something today the side is immoderately buggy.

[ee2100]

Hi Kostya!
It is immediately obvious that he is left-handed. And I like it more under the left mouse

[Catfish]

This woman is the dream of all the boys (and not only) of my happy childhood, the unattainable Babette, who went to war, although at first she came to get a job in a brothel.

[vladcub]

Kostya, hello. Top photo, something familiar film. It seems that some "village" has arrived in Moscow. Someone had a sculpture as a housekeeper.
I once looked, but I don't remember anymore

[Catfish]

No, this is the same Babette who came to the city to get a job in a brothel, and by no means a cleaner.
And the film you are talking about, I remember, I just forgot the name, Papanov played the sculptor, and the name of the "village" was Frosya Burlakova.

[Phil77]

*Come back tomorrow*.

[Catfish]

Precisely, Frosya sang Russian folk songs.

[Phil77]

There Shirvindt with Belov as Nemirovich and Danchenko performed, and Rina Zelyonaya at the piano! Funny old film.

[Catfish]

Yeah, jokers, damn it.

[vladcub]

But, in fact, there really was such a moment. The plot is so simple, but the cast was powerful

[Phil77]

Rather classic. Another "conquest of Moscow."

"Along the St. Petersburg, tverskoy, yes yamskoy" and baaats on the piano!

[Korsar4]

What you believe in is what you get.

[vladcub]

Babeta, a familiar name, but I can't remember. "Something has become of my memory" (c)

[Catfish]

"Something has become of my memory" (c)

The actress's name was Brigitte Bardot and she was a bright sex symbol of her time, and Babette was the name of her character.

[vladcub]

Yeah. Beautiful bitch

[Krasnodar]

“There lived a grandfather and a grandmother
And under her arm she had a hole
There he and his grandfather were hiding from the bombing
Come on, fuck it, this war "(c)
Greetings, Constantine!
Will pull out and straighten slower than from behind

[Trilobite Master]

Quote: Sea Cat

And what is not worn under this arm, the very place.

It is inconvenient to carry a weapon so - with the barrel down. And it is also inconvenient to extract, but quickly it is completely impossible. I would raise the holster a little higher and turn it clockwise for three o'clock.
Is this a submarine in a holster, Uncle Kostya?

[Krasnodar]

Quote: Trilobite Master

It is inconvenient to carry a weapon so - with the barrel down. And it is also inconvenient to extract, but quickly it is completely impossible. I would raise the holster a little higher and turn it clockwise for three o'clock.
Is this a submarine in a holster, Uncle Kostya?

Above butt sash down is comfortable to wear. Literally three days of training, already quite quickly pulling out and cocking, after a week - in less than two seconds you are already pulling out from behind, cocking and firing the first tov Ych shot from 8 meters in A4. The only thing is that you cannot keep a pistol on the safety lock, in Israel, for example, this is prohibited

[Trilobite Master]

Back on the belt is another matter. With the barrel down, with the handle (I almost wrote with "hilt" ) towards the spine. A slight inconvenience - the secrecy of wearing is somewhat lost.
I'm talking about the armpit holster. I do not understand who invented such, with such a fastening of the straps as in the photo.

[Krasnodar]

Stealth - yes, it gets lost
So there are two of them in the photo - for the Macedonian shooting or for the immediate transition to the second weapon of a two-handed man?

[Catfish]

On the left "Glock", and on the right - the devil knows it, you can't identify it by the cover of the store.
The guy below also has a Glock, and the Israeli looks like a Jericho 941 FBL.
And as for socks, there are various options, as it is convenient for whom, he wears it.

American tank crews and pilots carried them on their chests back in World War II.

[Krasnodar]

Above, a sock that is very inconvenient for immediate use. For an Israeli, for a quick switch to a second weapon when misfiring / running out of ammunition, a second one, but ... will take a second longer

[Catfish]

This guy also has such an option with a 90 liter backpack on his back.

[Krasnodar]

Well, this is already the standard

[Pane Kohanku]

For an Israeli - for a quick transition to a second weapon when misfiring / running out of ammunition to a second, but ... this transition must be worked out to automatism, in his case I would prefer a pistol in the mount above the knee, although its use will take a second longer

Tell me, what kind of machine gun does the Israeli have? "Tavor"?

[Catfish]

He has Tavor TAR-21, Kolya. I didn’t sign it, believing that everyone already knew.

[Pane Kohanku]

I didn’t sign, believing that everyone already knew.

Thank you, Uncle Kostya! I just wanted to clarify. And then, you know, there are so many models of weapons that the eyes run up. For example, I can’t even imagine what kind of pistols we have in service now - there’s a whole list.

[Catfish]

Not only my eyes, but my ears are starting to run up. But one thing I know for sure - all the best in the first place and without queuing goes to the gendarmerie.

[Krasnodar]

Quote: Sea Cat

Not only my eyes, but my ears are starting to run up. But one thing I know for sure - all the best in the first place and without queuing goes to the gendarmerie.

Famas is going to the gendarmerie, I think))
A unit similar to the gendarmerie, in which I made a line, in my time received from the army on a "residual basis." The main armament for 1997 - 2000 was the standard long M-16, in the weapons section they were used as sniper rifles Mauser 1898 EMNIP, of the year, the M-15 was a sniper (!) Standard, etc.
Now, it seems, in a different way, but MAGAV still does not have Tavor - short Arches are different.
The best thing first of all goes to the landing force and some of the heavy infantry brigades. Then the rest.

[Catfish]

I meant the so-called. Rosguard.

[Krasnodar]

Well, I'm talking about her

[astra wild2]

I see a soldier, a machine gun, but I see no other weapon

[Krasnodar]

Under the collar in front

[Catfish]

Look closely, the gun is on your chest, right under your chin.

[Krasnodar]

It is convenient when, during a misfire / end of ammunition, you fold the rifle to the left with your left hand, at the same time your right goes up, then sideways, pulling out the pistol, throw your left fingers forward in a pinch position, well, you throw the pistol forward to it with the handle parallel to the ground, through it you bring the weapon is ready, you attach your left hand and you are already shooting. 2.3-2,7 sec. for prepared for the first pistol shot

[Catfish]

... in a pinch position

What is this for? Explain in more detail.

[Krasnodar]

To pinch the bolt with the left, when you throw the pistol forward with the right
Fingers in a position as if you are about to pinch someone

[Catfish]

It is clear, I just assumed that the cartridge was already in the barrel and the pistol must either be removed from the safety lock, or it had already been removed.

[Krasnodar]

Already removed, but the cartridge is in the store
To remove the fuse, you need "fine (gentle) motor skills", which may not work in this situation. The cartridge in the barrel is unsafe, respectively. Therefore, everything is calculated this way

[Catfish]

But in real combat, I would prefer to have a cartridge in the barrel, a pistol removed from the safety lock with the trigger pulled. The shot is self-cocking, the descent is tight, but still comes out faster for seconds. But this is all theory, I did not participate in battles and it is not for me to judge which is more convenient.

[Krasnodar]

It also depends on army traditions
Israelis have it that way
What you explained to me is logical
But the training of a pistol is different for everyone - for the Jews it is in this format.
During the beginning of the shelling of the fortification point in which we were, the eccentric asked me to remove the helmet fastened to his unloading from behind
I could not do this - fingers, like cotton))
But here - all people are different

[Catfish]

But here - all people are different

But that's for sure, and you can't go anywhere.
As the unforgettable Svirid Petrovich Golokhvastov said: "Because one person is like that, another is like that. Why!" (C)

[vladcub]

Golokhvastov is something. There is no shishisha in his pocket, but he has little grief.
How he counted other people's money

[Catfish]

I read somewhere that Borisov could not play him sober and came to the stage already under a hefty "fly", the director did not tug at him and they did it!

[Korsar4]

Not that word. At least now, once again, review some fragment.

[Catfish]

Hello, Sergey!
Yes, the whole film has long been torn at quotes, every phrase is a full paragraph!

[Korsar4]

Hi Constantine!

“I went to Turkey, she went to Switzerland and lived there for three years in love and harmony” (c).

[Catfish]

"And he left for Baden-Baden" (c)

[Korsar4]

There was a literary anecdote about how Pushkin sent Turgenev for beer. And he could have gone to Baden.

Then the serfs brought beer.

[Catfish]

I have not heard this anecdote. I suddenly remembered Kharms, in whom all the poets stumbled over each other.

[Korsar4]

This is from what was attributed to Kharms.

[Catfish]

In general, I didn't really like him.

[Korsar4]

Not the same author as on the nearest shelves.

[Catfish]

They also wrote to him.

[Korsar4]

From an anecdote: "Something I do not like this Senkevich."

[Catfish]

From the same place: "If you don't like it, don't eat it."

[Korsar4]

“With such food,
How not to have a conversation ”(c).

[Catfish]

"I sit, eat an apple and look out the window" (c)

[Korsar4]

"And for me - distant roads" (c).

[Catfish]

"Yes, moonlit night" (c)

[Korsar4]

“I stand under the window
I'm with a guitar "(c).

[Catfish]

"From dawn to dawn, from dark to dark
Talk about love, sing guitar string "(c)

[Korsar4]

"Guitar again
He does not want to be silent ”(c).

[Catfish]

"Wander through the forests, go far and for a long time, learning to be silent" (c)

[Korsar4]

“I bless you, forests,
Valleys, fields, mountains, waters ”(c).

[Catfish]

"In the reserved and dense,
Old Murom forests,
All evil spirits walk like a cloud
And fear spreads in the passers-by. "(C)

[Korsar4]

“And all my girlfriends:
Leeches and frogs "(c).

[Phil77]

Speaking of frogs.

Hello, Sergey!

[Korsar4]

Hello Seryozha!

Favorite cartoon based on your favorite Kipling.

[Phil77]

* and we will go north ... *
How was yesterday's Italy? I didn't see any particular advantage in the first half, but they finished it off. And VIPs without masks surprised me unpleasantly. Okay, our "Byzantineism", but Italy, but Rome ...

[Korsar4]

At the end of the first half, the Turks were locked in the penalty area.
10 Italians were striking.
Low sprout often look like perpetual motion machines.

[Catfish]

The harsh prose of life.

[Korsar4]

A lot of leeches in life and stuck.

[Phil77]

I remind you! I hate leeches since childhood. Brrrr! Vile creatures.
As well as .... snakes.

[Korsar4]

The pharmacies squirmed in three-liter jars. It was interesting to watch.

[Catfish]

Saw them in kind, pretty disgusting.

[vladcub]

Kostya, greetings. They say: "You can't drink the skill," and if a blockhead, then both drunk and sober will remain so

[Trilobite Master]

These are military options for carrying weapons, they do not imply secrecy - only the convenience of actually carrying and ready for shooting.
An armpit holster implies a concealed carrying of a weapon, but the designer of this "harness", in my opinion, forgot that the weapon, in addition to being worn, still needs to be removed and, often, done quickly.

[Catfish]

When the barrel is hidden in an axillary holster, the immediate use of weapons is not always expected, for example, by police detectives, investigators, etc. In addition, such a holster was, perhaps, the very first for the concealed carrying of weapons. Before that there was a so-called "pistol pocket", a back pocket on men's trousers.

[3x3zsave]

Inspector Lestrade remembered.

[Catfish]

Performed by Brondukov.

[vladcub]

I remember that idiot. By the way, according to the book, Leistred is still bm.

[Phil77]

Aha! Hello Anton! And his phrase, of course from memory and not literally, but.
* Since I am wearing trousers, it means I have a pocket, and if there is a pocket, then it is not empty. * From * Dogs ... *, yes! But there was also a television play from 71, where Sherlock was played by Nikolai Volkov.

[3x3zsave]

So.
Good evening, Sergey!

[Trilobite Master]

In our Department of Internal Affairs he served as an opera, so he used weapons on people almost once a year. At the same time, he was always right. Himself small, puny, dark-haired and so nimble. So, he, apparently, had some kind of special victimization - he attracted trouble. Either the gopniks will try to undress him in the courtyard, then he will run into a drunken scumbag in a cafe, then he will get into an accident with some inadequate, in short, he found trouble for one or two. But he shot remarkably and knew the rules of using weapons perfectly - he would shoot one leg, another - the shoulder, the third would simply be lowered into the mud and tied - and there were no complaints from the prosecutor's office. At the same time, I have never used weapons purely for work in my memory.
So, what am I doing? He always carried a pistol in his harness under his armpit. And he made it for shooting, including the delivery of a cartridge, literally in a second. We, in any case, none of us could even figure out what was happening, and the trunk was already looking at you. He believed that in terms of the ratio of "secrecy - speed of preparation", an axillary holster was an ideal option. And every year he confirmed this in practice.

[Catfish]

So after all, a professional, and training, for sure, constant, and for an amateur the holster wherever he hangs, while he is poking around with taking out the barrel, he will be slammed a hundred times with a frying pan. And not only this is the point, the ability to competently handle weapons, the point is how much a person is ready to use weapons, and not everyone succeeds.

[Krasnodar]

Quote: Sea Cat

So after all, a professional, and training, for sure, constant, and for an amateur the holster wherever he hangs, while he is poking around with taking out the barrel, he will be slammed a hundred times with a frying pan. And not only this is the point, the ability to competently handle weapons, the point is how much a person is ready to use weapons, and not everyone succeeds.

My first attempt to run to the source of danger with a pistol in hand looked very cool - a magazine fell out of the gun while running. Ng I was not lost - I put in a new one and still ran. And I didn't find anyone there

[Trilobite Master]

Yes, which opera of the district administration is a professional in shooting ... I just got my hand in one single action and learned the relevant regulations. With his ability to get into trouble and attract aggression, of course, this helped him in life. But not at work. When such a small and puny spindle does not behave according to its size and musculature, you always want to give it a turnip. Those who wanted to were there all the time. And the time was like that - the end of the 90s ... By the way, in the department they called him - Shooter.

[Krasnodar]

Quote: Trilobite Master

He believed that in terms of the ratio of "secrecy - speed of preparation", an axillary holster was an ideal option. And every year he confirmed this in practice.

Brought to automatism. My friend kicked in a half-jump or with a U-turn from almost any distance (except the closest one), while doing track and field athletics. And he punched everyone on the street
Once shown - I worked out every day in different variations

[Trilobite Master]

I also had a signature reception on the carpet. Everyone knew and still came across. And who did not know - got caught faster. The main thing is not to rely only on it as a panacea, but to use it only when the situation has it.

[Krasnodar]

Well, of course))
Everything is done "in combination" with something else

[vladcub]

"worked in different variations" and brought it to automatism

[Krasnodar]

I guess, yes

[astra wild2]

Konstantin, in all fairness, not all pistols are convenient to carry in your back pocket.
Such as Parabellum, Mauser "bolo" in your back pocket can not be put, but "Walter PPK", I like it, or "baby" (girlfriend likes the name) perfectly

[Catfish]

Vera, so whoever would think of stuffing a Parabellum into his back pocket, there are no such freaks. For this there are "Browning" 1900, 1908 and 1910 and a bunch of all kinds of fakes, including Spanish and Chinese. And the "Eight" is only for the belt, if there is no holster.

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Quote: Sea Cat

Vera, so whoever would think of stuffing a Parabellum into his back pocket, there are no such freaks. For this there are "Browning" 1900, 1908 and 1910 and a bunch of all kinds of fakes, including Spanish and Chinese. And the "Eight" is only for the belt, if there is no holster.

Colleague, this is unlikely ... The figure eight does not hold on to the belt, falls through and clings with levers. Self-harm is very possible))

[Catfish]

Colleague , a lot of things normally hold on to the belt, you just need to tighten this belt, and not unfasten the belt, and it clings, like some others, exclusively with a fly. An uncomfortable sock, I agree, but it's better than carrying it in your pocket.

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Quote: Sea Cat

and he clings, like some others, exclusively with a fly

No no)). Just with the belt tightened, if worn on the belly, with a protrusion at the trigger guard on the left side, you tear your belly until it bleeds, if from behind it clings to the belt. For a left-handed person, in reverse order)). Proven by personal experience.

[Catfish]

Taki also checked, everything is fine with the stomach, maybe it all depends on its size?

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Quote: Sea Cat

maybe it all depends on its size?

Rather forms))

[Catfish]

Not recommended for pregnant women.

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Quote: Sea Cat

Not recommended for pregnant women.

That's for sure)) And not pregnant the same.

[Undecim]

13. Holes on parts were often not drilled, but punched, preheating them in order to relieve the arising stresses
14. However, this operation was carried out sequentially, using three punches of different diameters!

This is not a punch, this is a piercing. A punch is, roughly speaking, a pipe. And the tool with which a hole is obtained using a backing ring, as in the figure, is a piercing.
If the backing ring is not used, then a barb is used.
And the punctured part of the metal that is discarded (in the figure - falls into the hole) is called an otter.
In fact, very little is known about the technology of making armor and technological methods.
Therefore, this question is best studied with a manual forging textbook (such can still be found).
Or read a book by P.P. von Winkler "All About Cold Weapons", Chapter Twelve.

[kalibr]

Quote: Undecim

And the tool with which a hole is obtained using a backing ring, as in the figure, is a piercing.
If the backing ring is not used, then a barb is used.
And the punctured part of the metal that is discarded (in the figure - falls into the hole) is called an otter.

Very interesting. Thank you! Didn't know that. And, of course, the Swedes had different terms.

[balabol]

Good day. Can you dispel my doubts. To add volume to the cuirass, its middle is forged. It's a straightforward process. Some details are still molded in approximately this way. But at the same time, the middle of the part becomes thinner where the material is penetrated, for a cuirass it is precisely the most important part. I read that, on the contrary, in the manufacture of cuirasses, they sought to increase the thickness in the center with a thinning towards the edges. The question is - did you take a sheet preformed in thickness or pull it from the edge?

[Olgovich]

Nice, yes.

But not behind.

[Richard]

Nice, yes. But not behind.

It is not beautiful without armor on the ass and at the parade, and it is not comfortable in battle, but it is convenient at a halt

[Phil77]

* no armor on the ass *. Yes, yesterday many were convinced of this! On the example of the given illustration.

[BAI]

There are masters in the manufacture of armor in Moscow (3) and in the Moscow region (1).

The cheapest ammunition suitable for contact combat will cost the customer 160 thousand rubles. The most expensive one, which has already been forged and collected, is half a million. Therefore, the terms of reference and taking measurements are taken especially seriously.

In one of the rooms there are customers' legs hanging from the ceiling - dummies of all possible lengths and sizes. According to the rules, if the customer cannot come to the workshop in person, he will be sent a scheme for measurements.

For one Swiss museum, the craftsmen made ammunition, relying only on the image in the picture. “I made a graphic reconstruction - there are many conventions in painting, so I had to work through everything in detail,” says Ilya. "Now museum staff use this armor for various events."

[vladcub]

"their wives and neighbors, I don't know," but you don't want to check?
PSV. Oh, belatedly, but you said that your spouse and daughter are not allowed to use glue traps from mice. Plant in the dacha: mint, burdock, tansy and mice will send your dacha and goblin and go to others.
My aunt had mint in the flower garden and the mice were gone

[kalibr]

Svyatoslav! I have a cat that catches and eats them. It's a pleasure for her. And in winter, mint and tansy do not grow. I am at the dacha leaving them mummifying food. It's very funny to find their mummies later ...

[vladcub]

I do not know such a remedy yet. I buy peppermint oil at the pharmacy, moisten napkins with it and leave it somewhere. I periodically update napkins and mice leave me for a while

[kalibr]

I use this food for the winter. Very effective! I don't remember the name ...

[depressant]

The feeling of absurdity remains. Artistic armor that no one wore. The armor worn by the cat.

[Bolt cutter]

The armor worn by the cat.

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For mice, too !. These trinkets are made by Canadian Jeff de Boer
https://www.iizcat.com/post/4620/Artist-creates-glorious-medieval-suits-of-armor-for-cats-and-mice-Gallery-

[depressant]

As a trinket - lovely)))
Imagine, I'm not afraid of either mice or rats. Spiders are not very pleasant. I hope no one has guessed to make armor for them.

[Bolt cutter]

make armor for them.

If philosophically-spiders and so men at arms: the exoskeleton of their armor.

I still remember the screeching of the former, who found the owners of the London subway darting underfoot

[depressant]

Poor little mice! What can you find edible in this subway ...
Battleship. Turtle. Hedgehog. A porcupine - not even a tiger can eat it. The other day there was a funny video: a long thorn of a porcupine clung to the face of a tiger, and the poor fellow could not get rid of it. What a victory there ...
This is how nature gives ideas for armor protection, which are now being implemented with the use of advanced technologies.

[Bolt cutter]

What can you find edible in this subway?

A lot of everything - they are fed by the staff, because the mouse is a subway beast, and a lot falls from passengers - they can eat half of the sandwich at the station Water is also in abundance - water caps and condensate in the tunnels. They are grimy, but there are no cats.

[depressant]

But there are rush hours. The death of a small animal is possible. Is not it so?

[Bolt cutter]

During rush hours they do not climb the platforms. When they make sorties, they masterly and very quickly jump between the boots of the passengers. Close to the edge of the platform where people don't fit. They are not afraid at all.

[vladcub]

Perhaps to show off the king and put on? And the armor for the elephant, perhaps during the time of Carthage, was relevant?