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Yerevan accuses Baku of capturing six Armenian servicemen in the border region

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The situation on the border between Azerbaijan and Armenia in the two Armenian regions remains tense. Another incident took place in the Gegharkunik region of Armenia, where the Azeri military captured the Armenians.


According to the Armenian Defense Ministry, on the morning of May 27, the Azerbaijani military surrounded and captured six Armenian servicemen who were carrying out engineering work on the territory of one of the military units in the border region. It is emphasized that the military were on the Armenian territory.

In Baku, they adhere to a completely different version. The Azerbaijani Ministry of Defense claims that the detained Armenian soldiers were part of a reconnaissance and sabotage group, they crossed the border in the direction of the settlement of Yukhary Ayrim of the Kelbajar region, where they were detained. At the same time, Azerbaijan accused Armenia of violating the provisions of the trilateral settlement agreement.

In turn, and.about. Prime Minister of Armenia Nikol Pashinyan accused Azerbaijan of threatening the territorial integrity of Armenia. According to him, the Azerbaijani military is invading the territory of Armenia, trying to "redraw" the borders.

In addition, the Armenian military accused the Azerbaijani of the death of a contract serviceman of the Armenian Armed Forces near the village of Verin Shorzha in the same Gegharkunik region during a shootout on May 25. According to Yerevan, it was the Azerbaijani side that began shelling from an automatic weapons Armenian positions.
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  1. The leader of the Redskins
    The leader of the Redskins 27 May 2021 10: 56
    +1
    This intensity will not stop so easily, quickly.
    1. Patigorsk2020
      Patigorsk2020 27 May 2021 11: 10
      -2
      Quote: Leader of the Redskins
      This intensity will not stop so easily, quickly.

      According to the operational information received, on May 27 at about 03.00, reconnaissance and sabotage groups of the armed forces of Armenia crossed the state border on the Kelbajar section of the Armenian-Azerbaijani state border, attempting to mine the territory of Azerbaijan and commit other provocative actions, the Azerbaijani Defense Ministry reports.

      According to preliminary information, 2 enemy reconnaissance and sabotage groups crossed the state border in two directions. One of the groups consisted of 9, and the other consisted of 15 military personnel. The movement of the reconnaissance and sabotage groups was taken under control. Units of the Azerbaijan Army took urgent operational measures against both enemy groups while trying to mine supply routes and passageways leading to our posts.

      As a result, 6 servicemen were detained and disarmed - four from the first reconnaissance and sabotage group, including one officer, and two servicemen from another group.

      Geographic coordinates of the area where the enemy reconnaissance and sabotage groups were detained: 40 degrees 09 minutes 06 seconds north latitude, 45 degrees, 58 minutes, 07 seconds east longitude (N 40 ° 09′06 ″; E 45 ° 58′07 ″) ...

      The rest of the Armenian servicemen hastily left our territory and retreated.
  2. Revival
    Revival 27 May 2021 10: 59
    +4
    I don’t understand something there is a border of 7000 km, or what, it is impossible to objectively control it?
    The possibility of these manipulations must be excluded, otherwise through this they may try to indirectly or drag us into a conflict or undermine our reputation
    1. Ramadan
      Ramadan 27 May 2021 11: 04
      +1
      "The possibility of these manipulations must be ruled out, otherwise they may try to indirectly draw us into a conflict or undermine our reputation through this"

      It is unlikely that it will be possible to draw it in. I think one personal meeting between Putin and Aliyev will be enough to resolve all issues. But it is very likely to harm the reputation. Moreover, this is beneficial to everyone, both Azerbaijanis and Turks, and even Pashinyan will personally benefit from this.
      1. Patigorsk2020
        Patigorsk2020 27 May 2021 11: 21
        -3
        Quote: Ramazan
        It is unlikely that it will be possible to draw it in.

        Sure. In the Kremlin, do not go-o-you sit.

        Quote: Ramazan
        But it is very likely to harm the reputation.

        What is the reason for Azerbaijan to spoil the reputation of Russia? Or maybe the Armenians need it in order to leave the CSTO with a "clear" conscience? The reason they say is not helping us.
        1. Ramadan
          Ramadan 27 May 2021 11: 44
          +3
          "What is the reason for Azerbaijan to spoil the reputation of Russia?"
          I don’t know, it’s possible to fill the vacant place in Transcaucasia, we can assume for a long time.

          "Or maybe the Armenians need this in order to leave the CSTO with a" clear "conscience?
          The Armenians, if they want, can leave the CSTO anyway without any particular reason, there would be a desire. Apply for withdrawal and that's it. Then I think it will be possible to time the time until its disappearance, because the West will not stand up for it in case of "torn" by the Turks and Azerbaijanis.
          1. Patigorsk2020
            Patigorsk2020 27 May 2021 11: 49
            -2
            Quote: Ramazan
            I don’t know, it’s possible to fill the vacant place in Transcaucasia, we can assume for a long time.

            I repeat, why would Ilham Aliyev spoil relations with V. Putin, knowing our billion-dollar trade turnover, knowing how Putin was completely silent during the war, thereby allowing the pro-Western Pashinyan to understand what betrayal and ingratitude are worth. Why would Aliyev spoil relations with Putin when Azerbaijan is satisfied with the whole agreement? Why does Azerbaijan need domination in the region when it itself is a member of the Non-Aligned Organization? It is not Azerbaijanis who walk with anti-Russian posters, and it is not Azerbaijan that Lavrov was cursed a couple of days ago, but in Yerevan
            1. Ramadan
              Ramadan 27 May 2021 11: 56
              +3
              This is what you say, most likely it is. But there is also an internal political struggle in Azerbaijan, so nothing can be ruled out.
              And I just read on the Telegram channel that the Armenian leadership did not give any instructions about sabotage, such as this is a personal initiative of the junior staff.
              1. VyacheSeymour
                VyacheSeymour 27 May 2021 13: 26
                0
                And I just read on the Telegram channel that the Armenian leadership did not give any instructions about sabotage, such as this is a personal initiative of the junior staff.

                According to the Armenian Defense Ministry, on the morning of May 27, the Azerbaijani military surrounded and captured six Armenian servicemen, carried out engineering work on the territory of one of the military units in the border area.

                !!! ...
                We crossed the border of Armenia ... entered the territory MILITARY UNIT !!! , organized a beauty contest, selected the handsome winners and took them away ...
              2. Patigorsk2020
                Patigorsk2020 27 May 2021 19: 37
                0
                Quote: Ramazan
                But there is also an internal political struggle in Azerbaijan.

                Ramadan, what other struggle?) Aliyev's support in Azerbaijan from the people is at least 90%. There is no one who would stand next to him in Azerbaijan. Believe me)

                Quote: Ramazan
                that the Armenian leadership did not give any instructions about sabotage

                Quote: Ramazan
                like it's a personal initiative of the junior staff.

                That is, no one controls the army, so they can and should be destroyed, since they spit on what they themselves signed in a 3-party agreement ... BUT IT'S AN ARMENIAN. So he is not an Armenian if he doesn’t lie. We read

                Lieutenant Colonel Anar Eyvazov:

                "The intention to pass off the actions of the enemy's reconnaissance and sabotage group for engineering work is nothing more than a timid attempt to justify itself."

                The Armenian side again disseminated misinformation with the obvious intention to hide the provocations committed on May 27 at about 03.00:XNUMX by reconnaissance and sabotage groups on the Kelbajar sector of the Armenian-Azerbaijani state border.

                Armenian soldiers were disarmed in the territory of the Yukhary Ayrim village of the Kelbajar region. At the same time, forces were concentrated on the front line, including tank formations.

                The enemy is trying to present a sabotage group that attempted to mine the territory of Azerbaijan and commit a provocation as engineers and sappers.

                The question arises: what kind of work could Armenian military engineers perform on the territory of Azerbaijan?

                Anyone with a little knowledge of military affairs understands that engineering work is not done in small teams.

                Groups of this kind are in reconnaissance and sabotage detachments, and it is obvious that they penetrated into the territory of Azerbaijan precisely with the aim of committing provocations.

                Their goal was to infiltrate the rear of our border forces and mine supply lines so that forces moving along the supply lines were blown up by a mine, resulting in casualties among our troops.
                1. Ramadan
                  Ramadan 28 May 2021 08: 53
                  +1
                  "That is, no one controls the army, so they can and should be destroyed, since they spit on what they themselves signed in a 3-party agreement ... BUT THIS IS AN ARMENIAN. So he is not an Armenian if he doesn’t lie."

                  Apparently, you hate Armenians fiercely, in principle, as a people. I am not a supporter of either Armenians or Azerbaijanis, but it seems to me that until you destroy them, you will not calm down in principle. Apparently both have national specifics. Although, at the same time, I know there are Armenian-Azerbaijani families who live well and they had enough brains not to destroy their families because of this conflict.
                  And yet, no one needs to be destroyed except terrorists. And since you have such thoughts, it means that someone stronger should come up and give both strong bream, so that they calm down and disperse. Well, if it's simple to explain.
                  And according to the normal, it is necessary to make an official demarcation of the border, sign it and place Russian border guards or peacekeepers there and not allow you to approach each other within a shot. Then there is a chance that the situation will cool down a little.
                  And calm down already with the destruction ;-) From you, hatred for the Armenians burns right in every letter ...
                2. Ramadan
                  Ramadan 28 May 2021 09: 01
                  0
                  "Ramadan, what other struggle?) Aliyev's support in Azerbaijan from the people is at least 90%. There is no one who would stand next to him in Azerbaijan. Trust me)"

                  The people are the people, and there are elites or clans, call them what you want, the essence is that in your country that we have. So they are waging their struggle for power. Who organized the rallies among you, also the people? Just like that, such processes do not arise, and if Aliyev was mistaken, then he was not forgiven for this. The victory, of course, lifted him to heaven now, as well as ours after the return of the Crimea.
                  And if you do not know anything about such processes, then you just look very narrowly at the situation or do it on purpose.
                  1. Patigorsk2020
                    Patigorsk2020 28 May 2021 13: 01
                    0
                    Quote: Ramazan
                    The people are the people, and there are elites or clans, call them what you want,

                    Dear, you can google it. Every day in Azerbaijan, the head of the Executive Power, the businessmen, then the general are arrested ... whose hands are not clean and soul. Traitors. Corruptors.


                    Quote: Ramazan
                    So they are waging their struggle for power.

                    Nobody leads for power. The opposition is so stupid that their chances are ZERO. There is a guy in the opposition, a fellow of about 30. But where is he for president? and by the way, he is not the best candidate for Russia.

                    Quote: Ramazan
                    And if you do not know anything about such processes, then you just look very narrowly at the situation or do it on purpose.

                    Dear, I understand everything perfectly. Can you just tell me at least one name who can replace Ilham Aliyev in Azerbaijan? I personally don't know that. I don’t know at all. Let us even leave aside his victory in Karabakh ............ I personally do not know anyone in Azerbaijan who could stand next to Aliyev, according to his mind, diplomacy, languages ​​........

                    1. Ramadan
                      Ramadan 28 May 2021 14: 45
                      0
                      Aliyev is an authoritative figure, this is indisputable. I cannot offer an alternative, since I am not in control of the situation, and there is no need to. Personally, I am calm about him until he starts an openly Russophobic policy like in Ukraine or the Baltic states.
              3. Patigorsk2020
                Patigorsk2020 27 May 2021 19: 41
                +2
                Quote: Ramazan
                And I just read on the Telegram channel that the Armenian leadership did not give any instructions about sabotage, such as this is a personal initiative of the junior staff.

                More detailed answer

                Armenia was preparing a military operation against Azerbaijan

                The six saboteurs of the Armenian Armed Forces, captured by the Azerbaijani servicemen, were carrying out engineering work and mining the territory. Acting Prime Minister of Armenia Nikol Pashinyan stated this at a government meeting.

                Thus, the Armenian Prime Minister indirectly confirmed the information of the Azerbaijani military department about the sabotage of a group of Armenian servicemen and the preparation of a military operation on the territory of the Kelbajar region.

                Initially, the Armenian side announced that engineering and technical work would be carried out by the engineering troops. But here several contradictions immediately arise, which leads to logical questions.

                First: what kind of work did the Armenian armed forces carry out on the territory of the Azerbaijani village of Yukhary Airim, Kelbajar region? And why did the Armenian soldiers have to be on the territory of Azerbaijan?

                Second: since when have engineering and technical structures been erected on the territory of the opposing side and by a small group of 10-15 servicemen?

                Third: why did engineering work on the territory of Azerbaijan begin to be carried out at 03:00 at night?

                Fourth: for what purpose did the armed forces of Armenia move tanks and military equipment to the first line?

                The answers to these questions lie not only in the provocative statement of the Armenian Prime Minister, who announced the conduct of mining in the territory of Azerbaijan. But also in yesterday's tragic incident that occurred on the outskirts of the supply route in the direction of the village. A military truck of the Azerbaijani Defense Ministry hit a mine while following the supply road in the direction of the Azerbaijani posts. Azerbaijani servicemen have suffered losses, there are wounded.

                The Azerbaijani command initially assumed that the mine was planted during the hostilities last year. However, today's official statement by the Armenian Prime Minister revealed the true intention of the enemy, confirmed the initial suspicions, and revealed the plan of preparation for hostilities against Azerbaijan.

                The sorties of Armenian saboteurs to mine the Azerbaijani rear, according to the primary assessment of the Azerbaijani military command, served one purpose - the beginning of hostilities. It was for this purpose that the Armenian tanks were moved to the front line. After the advance of the advanced military units of the Armenian army, the reserve troops of the armed forces of Azerbaijan would come forward to meet the enemy along this supply road. And one can imagine the scale of losses on the Azerbaijani side at the time of the advancement of the support group. That, on the other hand, would open an unobstructed path for the advancement of Armenian tanks to the Kalbajar region.

                However, the vigilance and preventive measures of the Azerbaijani side violated the insidious and treacherous plan of the enemy, who penetrated the territory of Azerbaijan with the aim of committing subversive actions and aggressive plans. After the neutralization and capture of the Armenian saboteurs, Yerevan was forced to withdraw military equipment and personnel to their original positions.

                https://m.haqqin.az/news/210830
    2. Patigorsk2020
      Patigorsk2020 27 May 2021 11: 19
      -1
      Quote: Revival
      or get involved in a conflict or undermine your reputation

      so the Armenian side sleeps and sees that Russia intervened for Armenia. And they did and are doing everything to make it happen.
  3. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 27 May 2021 11: 00
    +3
    Another incident
    There is no end in sight to these incidents. The Armenians point a finger at the Azerbaijanis, those at the Armenians, so go and figure out who is really to blame. Russia helped to extinguish the armed conflict, even brought in peacekeepers. So sit evenly in your territories and do not twitch at least out of respect that you were not allowed to destroy a part of your youth on both sides.
    1. Patigorsk2020
      Patigorsk2020 27 May 2021 11: 17
      -1
      Quote: rotmistr60
      There is no end in sight to these incidents. The Armenians point a finger at the Azerbaijanis, those at the Armenians, so go and figure out who is really to blame.

      and what is there to check and think? Why would Ilham Aliyev spoil relations with Putin? Moreover, there are agreements in favor of Azerbaijan and relations at a good level. Lavrov was received in Yerevan ... sorry with the words LAVROV S. ... And how warmly was received in Baku. I don't see the point, why should Aliyev escalate the situation? And who does not benefit from peace with Azerbaijan, Armenia. Because soon the road will go along Syunik. They love to escalate to pull with it. Moreover, 2 groups of 9 and 15 people violated the borders, moreover, they began to mine the supply road. After that, Azerbaijan should talk about peace with them? Of course not. Here they are taking prisoners. They deliberately want to kill Azerbaijani soldiers and people. What kind of peace can we talk about with them?
  4. Patigorsk2020
    Patigorsk2020 27 May 2021 11: 12
    -1
    Quote: Leader of the Redskins
    This intensity will not stop so easily, quickly.

    Did you believe that this intensity will ever stop? Azerophobia and turkophobia in general among Armenians since ancient times. In the USSR, they were beaten for this and very painful. Friendship of Peoples. How the Union collapsed, they show their essence. The Azerbaijanis have already understood that the humpbacked grave will fix it! With them, I very much doubt there will be peace.
  5. yfast
    yfast 27 May 2021 11: 16
    0
    carried out engineering work on the territory of one of the military units in the border area.
    Did you dig the toilet? Somehow, Pashinyan no longer really believes it.
    1. Patigorsk2020
      Patigorsk2020 27 May 2021 11: 25
      -1
      Quote: yfast
      Did you dig the toilet? Somehow, Pashinyan no longer really believes it.

      They mined the road to detonate the supply. It is very stupid on the part of Armenia. Moreover, they are deprived of their army to remain, and now they will not pull themselves out in the best light. Nobody believes Armenian radio anymore. On the street is the 21st century. They were being watched from drones. And when they began to mine, the Azerbaijani side immediately took them prisoner. And now they will shout to the whole world that the Azerbaijanis are invaders and their soldiers are being taken prisoner. But taking into account the world documentation from the UN and a number of other organizations, Armenia must understand that Azerbaijan cannot occupy its territories) and all those who are armed with weapons on the territory of Azerbaijan without the knowledge of the necessary authorities are considered saboteurs and terrorists and are subject to either capture or destruction.
  6. APASUS
    APASUS 27 May 2021 11: 23
    0
    The loser of the war, trying to appeal to the conscience of the winner?
    1. Patigorsk2020
      Patigorsk2020 27 May 2021 11: 57
      -2
      Quote: APASUS
      The loser of the war, trying to appeal to the conscience of the winner?

      The Armenians are digging a hole for themselves. Instead of getting out of the blockade, they push themselves into a bigger blockade. Instead of starting peaceful relations, they do everything to prevent this and continue to live in a mono-national country with a mono-national interest.

      Fools ............
  7. Angivin
    Angivin 27 May 2021 11: 25
    -1
    There is a mountainous area, brilliant green, etc.
  8. Patigorsk2020
    Patigorsk2020 27 May 2021 11: 27
    -2
    The Armenian Defense Ministry announced the names of the captured Armenian saboteurs.

    The Armenian Defense Ministry has published the names of six saboteurs taken prisoner during an attempt by a reconnaissance and sabotage group of the armed forces of Armenia to cross the Armenian-Azerbaijani state border in the direction of the Yukhari Ayrim settlement of the Kelbajar region, Armenian media reported.

    According to the information, the captured saboteurs:

    A.N. Abgaryan,
    I.A. Sargsyan,
    V.V. Sargsyan,
    B.S. Ohanyan,
    A.G. Budoyan,
    IN. Rafaelyan are contract soldiers.

    Earlier, the Azerbaijani Defense Ministry reported that as a result of urgent operational measures, six Armenian saboteurs who tried to mine the supply routes leading to the positions of the Azerbaijani army on the border were surrounded and neutralized.

  9. isv000
    isv000 27 May 2021 11: 58
    0
    How many sides there are so many versions. That is why no one takes Russian border guards prisoner. This I mean that it is time for the Armenians to start building a normal border guard and the army in general, and not yelling "and we are for what?" ... hi
    1. Patigorsk2020
      Patigorsk2020 27 May 2021 21: 46
      0
      Quote: isv000
      it's time for the Armenians to start building a normal border guard and army

      Strongly against. If the Armenians had a problem only with an Azeri, I would agree. She is not a peaceful people. They have claims to all neighbors, including Russia. They do not allow the region to live in peace.
  10. ZVS
    ZVS 27 May 2021 13: 05
    -4
    These will not stop fighting until these two republics are incorporated into Russia.
    1. VyacheSeymour
      VyacheSeymour 27 May 2021 13: 49
      +2
      These will not stop fighting until these two republics are incorporated into Russia.

      Hmm ...- smart! And this after Russia was one of the signatories triple agreement on the termination of the existence of the USSR ????
      What reality do you live in? ... Do you want to include the Tutsi and Hutu peoples?
    2. Suleyman
      Suleyman 27 May 2021 16: 27
      0
      So you decide, you Lenin with Stalin or Gorbachev with Yeltsin? Fuck a hairless hairbrush?
    3. isv000
      isv000 27 May 2021 22: 00
      -2
      Precisely - not the CIS, but Russia!
      1. Suleyman
        Suleyman 28 May 2021 07: 49
        0
        Color dreams are a sign of schizophrenia!
  11. Goodies
    Goodies 27 May 2021 14: 15
    -3
    I read the comments and am surprised. What the hell are you writing? The Armenians were taken prisoner in the territory of Armenia. I repeat on the territory of Armenia. Are the Armenians also to blame? The Ministry of Defense of Azerbaijan can spread any nonsense. Naturally, they present information in their own way.
    1. VyacheSeymour
      VyacheSeymour 27 May 2021 16: 38
      0
      The Armenians were taken prisoner in the territory of Armenia. I repeat on the territory of Armenia.

      Did you personally take them prisoner? Or were you present?
      On the Azerbaijani side, there are videos where armedArmenians with kicks (and this is already good - a few months ago it was impossible to imagine a hand-to-hand between armed representatives of the two peoples) are driven to the borders of Armenia ... - which prevented the Azerbaijanis from taking them
      captured ??? Or is arminfo everything for you?
      1. Goodies
        Goodies 27 May 2021 18: 19
        -2
        There are several such videos. I follow the news from both sides, and not just the noodles that Erdogan hangs in the minimum wages, i.e. Aliev. There are exactly the same videos from the Armenian side, the Armenians could easily have captured more than 200 Azerbaijani soldiers. Why don't they take it? And why don't they shoot. And the main question is what the Azerbaijani saboteurs (in Aliyev's language) are doing in the Armenian territory.
        1. VyacheSeymour
          VyacheSeymour 27 May 2021 18: 57
          +1
          After that nonsense from the Armenian side during the war, Iskanders exploding by 10%, fighters without missiles, a squeezed out gold deposit, squeezed houses and roads in Syunik and Kapan, etc. and so on ... I am inclined to believe the Azerbaijani side. And Erdogan's talking shop (by the way, he was not noticed chattering on such topics) to me on a drum. And I wonder - why did you drag Erdogan to these border showdowns?


          There are exactly the same videos from the Armenian side,


          Skinte the link, I'll take a look.
    2. alone
      alone 29 May 2021 13: 14
      +1
      Quote: Usefulness
      The Armenians were taken prisoner in the territory of Armenia. I repeat on the territory of Armenia.

      Let's start with the fact that the border between Armenia and Azerbaijan is determined on the basis of 1975 maps compiled by the topographic service of the General Staff of the USSR Ministry of Defense. .Do you have any complaints against the General Staff of the USSR Ministry of Defense?
      1. VyacheSeymour
        VyacheSeymour 29 May 2021 18: 53
        +2
        Let's start with the fact that the border between Armenia and Azerbaijan is determined on the basis of 1975 maps compiled by the topographic service of the General Staff of the USSR Ministry of Defense. .Do you have any complaints against the General Staff of the USSR Ministry of Defense?

        And let us end with the fact that both Azerbaijan and Russia (as well as a participant in the trilateral agreement and the guarantor of the implementation of the points of the agreement, as well as the peacemaker) AT THE HIGHEST LEVEL declare the need for the fastest demarcation and delimitation of state borders! Armenia (not embarrassed during the occupation of the regions of Azerbaijan to fill a heap of stones on the border) with all its fibers opposes this, clinging to those areas to which (due to the inaccessibility in winter), after the conclusion of the agreement, the Azerbaijani border guards did not come out (the Armenians, according to the letter of the agreement, were obliged to withdraw troops from there) , raise (not for the first or third time) the question of some kind of violation.
        This is understandable - one doesn’t want to lose what has been considered our own for almost 30 years, just as one doesn’t want to recognize the border and recognize Karabakh as a part of Azerbaijan.
        Azerbaijan and Russia will put pressure on Armenia along the state borders before the elections, because after a possible change of government, the new government may annul trilateral agreements, and this is a direct path to a new war in lack of state borders ! Breaking the agreements of one of the parties means a return to a state of war, the annulment of the mandate of the peacekeepers, the complete, legal destruction of the remnants of military units on its territory in Karabakh. But the most piquant thing is that when absence of state borders (they are, of course, on the maps of the General Staff of the USSR Ministry of Defense but the Armenians do not recognize them ) Azerbaijan's hands are untied - since there are no RECOGNIZED BORDERS, it means that there can be no talk of a threat to the territorial integrity of Armenia ... - Azerbaijan's friends in the CSTO sarcastically wash their hands ... Well, not for a simple reason, all Pashinyan's appeals to the CSTO are ignored - the men there are serious , provide them with facts, maps (which the Armenians do not want to recognize), well, and the snot with which the Armenians smear all imaginable and inconceivable thresholds are interesting only to tearful Europe (and even then not to all).
        1. alone
          alone 30 May 2021 08: 05
          0
          Quote: VyacheSeymour
          let's finish with

          Basically we say the same thing drinks hi
  12. sergo1914
    sergo1914 27 May 2021 14: 42
    0
    Fake. What in general can happen on the border of two fraternal republics besides the joint drinking of alcohol and eating apricots, tomatoes and lavash?
    1. Cat Alexandrovich
      Cat Alexandrovich 27 May 2021 16: 33
      0
      And the shashlik-mashlik? Forgotten the most important-Caucasian-international!
  13. Vladimir61
    Vladimir61 27 May 2021 16: 19
    0
    In Baku, they adhere to a completely different version.
    In the age of technology and taking into account what is happening, it is no wonder always know your exact location, with an accuracy of a couple of tens of meters. And when this "mess" is beneficial to both parties, no one fixes or refers to the geolocation data at one time or another of the event. Although, this can be done and dropped to a higher headquarters in just a couple of seconds. There is no need for politicians to be like these two characters.
  14. Azimuth
    Azimuth 27 May 2021 18: 20
    +6
    Quote: Usefulness
    I read the comments and am surprised. What the hell are you writing? The Armenians were taken prisoner in the territory of Armenia. I repeat on the territory of Armenia. Are the Armenians also to blame? The Ministry of Defense of Azerbaijan can spread any nonsense. Naturally, they present information in their own way.
    Frankly speaking, our allies, the Armenians, are talking nonsense here, and the Armenian servicemen have become hostages of their politicians and the struggle for power between them.
    The situation is rather prosaic, remember, for example, the friction in the North Caucasus between Chechnya and Ingushetia, the reasons are the same.
    There was a border between the Armenian SSR and the Azerbaijan SSR, it is marked and shown on maps. But in the USSR, these borders were for the most part administrative, as, for example, between our North Caucasian republics, regions and territories. After all, we were one state and one people - Soviet. For example, the relief they have there is complex, the road network is poorly developed, the Azerbaijani border executive committee could allocate land or pastures to an Armenian state farm from the neighboring region of Armenia. The allocation of land in this case did not mean a change in the borders of the union republics. As the years passed, these lands or pastures were owned by the Armenian state farm, the USSR ordered to live a long time, the Armenians occupied even more territories of Azerbaijan as a result of the war, last year they lost the war and, in exchange for peace and the lives of the servicemen of the surviving grouping of their troops, undertook to withdraw everything. their troops from Azerbaijan.
    "From Azerbaijan" means from the territory within certain boundaries, I repeat once again, we had borders in the USSR between the Union republics and they were marked on all maps, and all sides have these maps, and not only for example, we and Azerbaijanis, but the Armenians are in the dark.
    Now imagine an Armenian peasant who for decades, having begun in his time in the guise of a state farmer, calmly grazed livestock or cultivated the land at the IKS point, and naturally considers this "his" land, and now this is the territory of Azerbaijan, but not Soviet and fraternal, but independent Azerbaijan. the capitalist world, where man is a wolf to man, and states even more so. Many border villages in Armenia thus lose not only roads and communication with other regions of Armenia, but also land and pastures, etc., it is like death for a peasant, without land he is a homeless person. Here is elementary arithmetic, for each head of cattle you need a certain number of hectares of land to grow fodder, you need a certain number of hectares of pasture for grazing, etc., if this is not the case, then all the cattle are under the knife, since it is not possible to feed it, but the peasants who - where, without land there is no peasant ...
    Politicians are well aware of the borders and are well aware that many Armenian border villages and farms are actually being killed by the economy, people are losing the opportunity to work and exist. Now there is a pre-election struggle in Armenia, hence the howl about the "surrender of Armenian lands" from all the warring parties, and attempts to drag us into this, to make a mess and make us a party to the conflict - Pashinyan and his accomplices, thereby fulfilling the order of the owners, Kocharyan and others dream of revenge and also want to get power with our hands, and on our bayonets to become "liberators and gatherers of the Armenian lands."

    So you can't immediately understand who set up the Armenian military personnel, Pashinyan or, for example, Kocharyan, at the expense of the remnants of his clan's influence in the army. The Azerbaijanis went to the border of the Azerbaijan SSR, which since the collapse of the USSR has already become the state border of a sovereign state, and not to the borders of some state farms, or to the pasture of Rapik, or Khatsik, or Anzor. Moreover, the Azerbaijanis do it under OUR control, and now, as soon as the weather conditions have improved, they move further, going to the border where yesterday the weather conditions did not allow it, taking into account the relief and cross-country ability.
    What did the Armenians learn? Under the cries, they say, the Azerbaijanis occupy their territory, recently they sent a DRG that mined the roads in the rear of the Azerbaijani border guards, and I remind you that the relief there is complex, the road network is undeveloped. As a result, a KAMAZ with Azerbaijani border guards was blown up the other day ... And then everything is simple, special forces were put forward, ambushes were arranged and when another DRG of Armenians penetrated into the rear of the Azerbaijani border guards, took up "engineering work" at 3 am laughing on the road, something quite ordinary and extraordinary happened at the same time. Uncommon, the cover group let the Azerbaijani special forces pass, allowed it to capture its advanced group, and for dessert it also flew to Armenia without a single shot, and the ordinary one - the advanced group occupied by "engineering work" and left unprotected by the Azerbaijanis was taken prisoner and also without a single shot.
  15. Goodies
    Goodies 27 May 2021 19: 28
    -4
    Quote: VyacheSeymour
    And I wonder - why did you drag Erdogan to these border disputes?

    You don't know much about geopolitics! It is Erdogan who dictates the policy of the region, and Russia, oddly enough, adjusts to his policy. Erdogan just does it delicately. I consider him one of the best politicians of our time, here it is he who commands the parade, Aliev is an ordinary pawn here, whose stars are simply lined up in a perfect row. He just takes advantage of it. You do not have to believe only in what you are told and shown, and listen only to what they tell you. There is a hidden part of politics that not everyone sees.
    1. VyacheSeymour
      VyacheSeymour 27 May 2021 20: 57
      +2
      You don't know much about geopolitics!

      Bad, not bad, but unlike you, I do not pretend so modestly for the laurels of the "beacon" of geopolitics ...
      You do not have to believe only in what you are told and shown, and listen only to what you are told.

      Modestly !!! From today on I will only listen to what your modest persona will broadcast ...
      There is a hidden part of politics that not everyone sees.

      Are you ready to share your sacred knowledge?
  16. isv000
    isv000 27 May 2021 21: 48
    -1
    Quote: Patigorsk2020
    She is not a peaceful people.

    Is it about Azerbaijan? Do we seem to have no border with Armenia?