Conscript Makarov, who shot three colleagues, was given a timeline of compulsory treatment

The conscript soldier Anton Makarov sent for compulsory treatment, who shot three colleagues in November last year at the Baltimore military airfield in Voronezh, will stay in a psychiatric hospital until August 9, 2021.

The court clarified the length of time spent in a psychiatric hospital Makarov, sent there at the end of March this year after experts could not answer the question of whether Makarov deliberately committed a triple murder. He is currently in the Voronezh Regional Clinical Psychoneurological Dispensary

Although the court determined the period for Makarov's stay for treatment until August 9, in reality he may be in the dispensary either less or more. It all depends on the decision of the doctors. "Businessman"... After treatment, another psychiatric examination should follow.

Makarov is charged under two articles at once: under clause "a" of Part 2 of Article 105 ("Murder of two or more persons") and Part 4 of Article 226 ("Theft weapons") Of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation. The detainee himself refuses to testify.

Recall that on November 9, 2020, at the Baltimore airfield in Voronezh, at about 5 am, Private Makarov, hacked the officer on duty who reprimanded him with an ax (taken from the fire shield), took possession of his service weapon and shot two people and wounded one more, after which disappeared in an unknown direction. The "Intercept" plan was announced in the city, officers of the Ministry of Internal Affairs, Rosgvardia and SOBR were engaged in the search for the serviceman. Later Makarov was detained and placed in a pre-trial detention center, from where he was transferred to a psychiatric dispensary.

Comments

[Walking]

Another "hero of our time". They would have been shot with information on all parts, there would have been fewer such cases for the personnel.

[loki565]

Campaign tries to show insanity in order to avoid responsibility.

[Nastia makarova]

a normal psychiatrist will determine a simulator at a time or not

[Sidor Amenpodestovich]

Quote: Nastia Makarova

a normal psychiatrist will determine a simulator at a time or not

Rosenhan's experiment.

[FIR FIR]

Quote: Sydor Amenpospestovich

Rosenhan's experiment.

"There are no absolutely healthy people - there are under-examined people"

[fruc]

That's for sure. There are sane and insane.

[FIR FIR]

Quote: Nastia Makarova

a normal psychiatrist will determine a simulator at a time or not

Are you a psychiatrist?

[Victor Tsenin]

Do you disagree with this thesis / question the thesis / doubt the truth of the above?
The truth is that a normal psychiatrist is understood as a specialist who not only perfectly knows the profession, but also subtly senses mental vibrations, conducts observations based on many factors (facial expressions, eyes, tempo / timbre of speech, movement, and much more). Thus, the statement is absolutely correct and does not require a clarifying question to a person who is not the hero of the article)

[Vita vko]

Quote: Nastia Makarova

a normal psychiatrist will determine a simulator at a time or not

At the time of the call to the medical commission, there was also a psychiatrist. The court should have no less questions to the nim and the officers of the unit than to the criminal who "suddenly" fell ill with a mental illness. This is not a fracture or a "brain injury".

[fruc]

..... in Voronezh at about 5 o'clock in the morning, Private Makarov, hacked to death with an ax (taken from the fire shield) the officer on duty who reprimanded him, took possession of his service weapon and shot two people and wounded another, after which he disappeared in an unknown direction.

It's a pity the duty officer was not quick. I would have put 6,1 grams on this freak. head-on .

[vic02]

He could hit from behind while the officer was distracted by something.

[fruc]

I don't even doubt it, or the factor of surprise played in my memory. I remember a case when the officer on duty shot a drunken demobilizer-bijo (he came from a self-propelled gun and began to rush at the officer). Then his numerous relatives came in large numbers and wanted to commit lynching. It was necessary to shoot these monkeys too.

[vic02]

We also had such shots. One from Tbilisi almost pretended to be a thief in law. There was a case of a dej in the park in the air shot to reason, so the commander slapped him for this. And the hero from Tbilisi was assigned to the disbat. Then when after the disbat he came to serve, he was an exemplary soldier.

[fruc]

He also served in the Zak.VO in Batumi.

[alystan]

In this case, it is necessary to check along with the "hero" of psychiatrists for compliance with the position held: "... the experts could not give an answer ...", and "The detainee himself refuses to testify."
One of the two - either the experts are "insane", or the suspect is too "smart" for the experts ... Or rather, he behaves very smartly, where you need to protect yourself / shield yourself.

[Ratmir_Ryazan]

Do you think when he committed crimes he thought that life punishment is much better than the death penalty.

In my opinion, such people do not care what is written in the Criminal Code, they are devils, rabid animals, they do not understand anything.

In the USSR there was the death penalty, so what? Fewer murders?

But the mistakes of the investigation after the execution cannot be corrected, and not every case is as obvious as it seems to you.

[Fedor M]

It is necessary to change the legislation. Deliberate murder of two people is a life sentence. The murder of three or more people is the death penalty !!! Enough with these "demigods", "idiots" messing around

[kit88]

It is necessary to change the legislation.

And what is there to change?
The current version of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation:
Article 105. Murder
2. Murder:
a) two or more persons;
...
is punished by imprisonment for a term of eight to twenty years with restriction of freedom for a term of one to two years, or life imprisonment, or the death penalty.
+ + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +

PEC RF Article 186. Procedure for the execution of the death penalty
1. The death penalty is executed non-publicly by firing squad. The execution of the death penalty in relation to several convicts is carried out separately in relation to each and in the absence of the rest.
2. During the execution of the death penalty, there shall be a prosecutor, a representative of the institution in which the death penalty is carried out, and a doctor.
3. The onset of death of the convicted person is ascertained by a doctor. A protocol is drawn up on the execution of the court sentence, which is signed by the persons specified in part two of this article.
4. The administration of the institution in which the death penalty is executed is obliged to inform the court that passed the sentence, as well as one of the close relatives of the convicted person, about the execution of the sentence. The body is not handed over for burial and the place of its burial is not reported.

[Fedor M]

Since April 16, 1997, there is "no" death penalty in Russia

[Victor Tsenin]

It exists, but the idiotic moratorium, unfortunately, prevents its implementation.

[Fedor M]

Yes, this is when it is implemented

[Victor Tsenin]

There is it when it is, and it is realized when it is realized. Precision and attention to detail are our everything.

[fruc]

It can be replaced by hard labor or elimination when trying to escape.

[Aag]

"... 2. During the execution of the death penalty, there is a prosecutor, a representative of the institution in which the death penalty is carried out, and a doctor ...."
And the contractor, the representative of the institution?

[Fedor M]

Man just pulled quotes from the law, which does not work

[Aag]

Quote: Fedor M

Man just pulled quotes from the law, which does not work

Tried to clarify ...
There are citation rules.

[kit88]

Quote: AAG

There are citation rules.

What exactly are the Citation Rules? What didn't suit you?

[Aag]

Quote: kit88

Quote: AAG

There are citation rules.

What exactly are the Citation Rules? What didn't suit you?

I asked you a clarifying question: "... And the contractor? The representative of the institution? ..."
In the sense that the representative of the institution is the executor of the sentence?
The man (Fedor M) answered for you ... In my opinion, unsuccessful ...

Clarified?

[kit88]

All clear.
Here you are a literary expert. But, in principle, a document is a document, especially this one. Everything in it should be clear and clear. So that the client does not poke the prosecutor in the nose at the last minute - "It is not written here that the executioner must be present at the execution! Expense, in short."
We conclude: "the representative of the institution" is the executor.

[Aag]

Quote: kit88

All clear.
Here you are a literary expert. But, in principle, a document is a document, especially this one. Everything in it should be clear and clear. So that the client does not poke the prosecutor in the nose at the last minute - "It is not written here that the executioner must be present at the execution! Expense, in short."
We conclude: "the representative of the institution" is the executor.

You understood everything correctly!)) That is how (close to the text) I first wanted to pose the question: "... So that the client does not poke the prosecutor in the nose at the last minute -" It is not written here that the executioner must be present at the execution! .. ")))

[kit88]

So you ignored. What do you want to change in one hundred and fifth? To clarify what kind of murder of two is strictly RV, and if more - SK? So how does it suit you?
We read the Criminal Code, PEC - what do you mean "pulled out"? Explain.

[Fedor M]

I wrote, premeditated murder of two people, without more - strictly RZ, premeditated murder of three or more - SK, without any degree and red tape, the patient is not sick, right to the wall. Do you understand my position ?! So that there are no loopholes to cut

[kit88]

The position is clear.
No, well, there must be some kind of fork.
Cases are different. One is in a state of passion, the other ...
This one has a bullet, and the other may well deserve the fate of Balthazar Gerard.
Leave the rope at least.

[Fedor M]

I indicated INTENTIONAL murder, in Kazan people imagined that he was a god and went to kill. This soldier too. And how do you say to put the plug, this is the loophole

[t-12]

If this is a nutcase, how will the death penalty help? The psycho still does not understand what and why he is doing, what the consequences will be, etc. The threat of the death penalty will not stop him.

[ccsr]

Quote: t-12

If this is a nutcase, how will the death penalty help? The psycho still does not understand what and why he is doing, what the consequences will be, etc. The threat of the death penalty will not stop him.

I agree with this approach - indeed, the roof can go at any time, and for various reasons. That is why, in order to at least reduce the number of such tragedies, we need to completely abandon compulsory conscription into the army, and select only volunteers there, and then after a serious medical examination. Naturally, such people must first undergo training for at least several months in educational structures, where they can be assessed for suitability for further service. I think this will reduce the number of deaths and various incidents in the army from the actions of inadequate, who were called on the agenda.

[t-12]

The call is needed (in theory) to prepare a mob reserve. So that, if necessary, it was possible to mobilize people accustomed to following orders and at the very least remembering the device of the machine. To "cheaply and angrily" shut these people up massive / non-professional vacancies (patrols, checkpoints, guards at warehouses, driving positions, etc.).

And "preliminary education" is a school CWP and all sorts of DOSAAF there.

[ccsr]

Quote: t-12

The call is needed (in theory) to prepare a mob-reserve. So that, if necessary, it was possible to mobilize people accustomed to following orders and at the very least remembering the device of the machine.

Such a war, requiring the call of a mob reserve, is not foreseen in the future - our strategic nuclear forces are the most reliable guarantee that we need to call in any mob reserve at all, because they will decide the outcome of the war within a few tens of minutes. And against China in a conventional war, we will not have enough mob-reserve ...

[t-12]

our strategic nuclear forces are the most reliable guarantee

In a guerrilla / sabotage / terrorist war (like in Syria) where will you send these strategic nuclear forces? Are you bombing the city that a group of militants entered with a vigorous loaf?

The French at one time considered the Maginot Line an absolute guarantee. Russia is now relying on the omnipotent strategic nuclear forces.

[ccsr]

Quote: t-12

In a guerrilla / sabotage / terrorist war (like in Syria) where will you send these strategic nuclear forces?

Syria is our country, and the local authorities can simply show us the door and force us to withdraw the troops. And what should our mobile reserve do there, if there are only contractors?

Quote: t-12

Are you bombing the city that a group of militants entered with a vigorous loaf?

For this, our Aerospace Forces have missile armament in non-nuclear equipment.

Quote: t-12

The French at one time considered the Maginot Line an absolute guarantee. Russia is now relying on the omnipotent strategic nuclear forces.

The SNF themselves have radically changed the situation in the world - we have been living in peace for more than 75 years thanks to them. It is strange that you do not see the relationship between these two facts.

[Usher]

Quote: ccsr

Quote: t-12

The call is needed (in theory) to prepare a mob-reserve. So that, if necessary, it was possible to mobilize people accustomed to following orders and at the very least remembering the device of the machine.

Such a war, requiring the call of a mob reserve, is not foreseen in the future - our strategic nuclear forces are the most reliable guarantee that we need to call in any mob reserve at all, because they will decide the outcome of the war within a few tens of minutes. And against China in a conventional war, we will not have enough mob-reserve ...

An absolute delusion and overestimation of the power of nuclear weapons.

[Aag]

"... And" preliminary training "is a school CWP and all sorts of DOSAAF ..."
And what, was it (CWP) reintroduced?
OBC, it seems, as not always, and not everywhere they study (teach) with dignity ...
DOSAAF (ROSTO) is voluntary ...

[your1970]

Quote: ccsr

refuse to be drafted into the army, and select only volunteers there, and then after a serious medical examination.

Evsyukov, no? Every year, a medical examination took place ...

[ccsr]

Quote: your1970

Evsyukov, no? Every year, a medical examination took place ...

As far as I remember, he was mowing like a fool so as not to go to jail, but in fact he is just a drunken man who, for some reason, was kept in the Ministry of Internal Affairs. So it is not necessary to equate him with those who really have deviations in the psyche, and who are drafted into the army without revealing this disease.
It was at this moment that I focused attention - such diseases can manifest themselves in critical situations in the army service. In my memory, a case when a crazy (or stoned, which is even worse) driver-mechanic stole a tank from the park at night and drove it around Potsdam, but fortunately, no one died, although he crippled many cars before he was caught. It is good that there was no BC in the tank, otherwise it is not known how it could all end.
That is why it is time to take a more serious approach to the manning of the army, especially since now there are those who wish to serve in it.

[Victor Tsenin]

The psycho is psychotic, many of them quite understand, some are clear, some are not quite. It will help those that the majority, incl. to psychos, the instinct of self-preservation is not alien and the threat of execution is a stopping factor. And secondly, this act of execution allows you to get rid of the already existing bloodthirsty bio-waste, no matter how cynical it may sound.

[paul3390]

I propose to ban weapons in the army. Or if you issue it - only from the age of 25, only after a daily examination by psychologists, no more than 3 cartridges per snout and - by no means a terrible automatic weapon. No AK or other nightmarish assault rifles !!

[depressant]

Colleague Paul3390, it's hard to believe, but you have to:

in July 2001, a murder took place on the Baltimore, two warrant officers were hacked to death at a checkpoint with an ax. A suspect, Captain Georgy Bykov, was soon arrested. Bykov himself complained of torture, with the help of which, according to him, the policemen sought confessions; he was sentenced to 15 years in prison. In 2010, the ECHR awarded Bykov 15 thousand euros in compensation for beating in the Soviet District Department of Internal Affairs of Voronezh. He was released only in 2016; he was met by the mother of the deceased warrant officer with her daughter, who did not believe in the officer's guilt.

This is such a place - the Baltimore airfield.

[Revival]

"torture, with the help of which, according to him, the police obtained."

For such actions, if any, in my personal opinion, the death penalty is also needed

[vic02]

hacked to death with an ax two warrant officers at the checkpoint

were they the same militiamen from the Sovetskiy ROVD?

[Alex66]

I mean, is he crazy? And here is the question: will the person who signed it be held liable? Or are they only getting a salary at the military registration and enlistment office? Marriage at work - must answer.

[xorek]

I am more and more convinced that it is necessary to introduce the death penalty in Russia. Otherwise, this wave of murders and other theft will grow.