"Drawn red stars and think they imitate the actions of the Russians and the Chinese": the US criticizes the use of the first private fighter F-16

The other day in one of their news materials "Voennoe obozreniye" reported that a private F-16 fighter jet took off for the first time in the United States. This is an aircraft that was previously operated by the US military and then sold to the private company Top Aces. At the same time, after the "privatization" of the fighter, the American Air Force suddenly needed it again - as an aircraft that will represent Aviation the adversary.

The aircraft flew from Mesa Gateway airbase (Phoenix) and remained in the air for about an hour. During this time, according to the American side, tests of its individual characteristics and flight parameters were carried out.

Representative of the company that owns the F-16A fighter with number 78-0322:

This is a new milestone for our company. It opens up new opportunities for us, including the acquisition of more aircraft.

This story, as it turns out, has received criticism from a number of American experts. In particular, the issue of a "strange scheme" is being discussed, according to which the aircraft was first sold to a private company, and then, as a result of a contract with this company, it was again actually in the combat service of the US aviation. One of the complaints:

If the F-16 was needed by our aviation, then why was it sold to a private company? If it is not needed, why then a contract with this company for its further exploitation as an "aggressor"?

It should be noted that the first private F-16 entered the squadron of "aggressors" - this is how the US calls the aircraft that imitate the means of enemy combat aviation (most often we are talking about Russia and China).

In the United States, criticism of the activities of the squadron itself also rises. After the video showing the first flight of a private fighter as part of this air unit, American users noted the following:

They painted red stars and think that they imitate the actions of the Russians and the Chinese. To imitate their actions, you need to understand the psychology of these pilots. She is different. Here red stars alone are indispensable.

Video of the first training flight 78-0322 as an "aggressor" criticized in the United States by experts and ordinary users.

Comments

[Finches]

You can also turn on the following at the airfield:

So let the Red
Compresses powerfully
Your bayonet with a calloused hand
And we all must
Uncontrollably
Go to the last mortal battle!
Red Army, march forward!
The Revolutionary Council is calling us into battle.
After all, from the taiga to the British seas
The Red Army is all stronger!

Sneaks

[Invoce]

Yes, everything is much simpler ...

“If the F-16 was needed by our aviation, then why was it sold to a private company? If it is not needed, why then a contract with this company for its further exploitation as an "aggressor"?

Already the Americans themselves understand that the production of weapons, local wars is BUSINESS!
And the resale of military equipment (to private companies, failed states Ukraine, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania ... etc.) is a super profitable business. In this case, a contract was signed with the US Department of Defense for the performance of some services. I am 100% sure the firm is affiliated with some kind of official either in Congress or in the Ministry of Defense. But a criminal case will not be opened on this case. For everything is according to the "Law" ...

[Shurik70]

Quote: Finches

You can also turn on the following at the airfield:

It is unlikely that they will find this song in an adequate English translation.
But you can include the Soviet march from Red Alert. It will definitely be found in the English version.

[Flashpoint]

Quote: Finches

You can also turn on the following at the airfield:

So let the Red
Compresses powerfully
Your bayonet with a calloused hand
And we all must
Uncontrollably
Go to the last mortal battle!
Red Army, march forward!
The Revolutionary Council is calling us into battle.
After all, from the taiga to the British seas
The Red Army is all stronger!

Sneaks

Or as in the movie "The Hunt for the Unicorn (1989)" - the march of the aviators.
I did not find this particular fragment, here it is completely, see from 1:07:30
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6thi4e8Wl5U

[Avior]

it is strange that the Germans in the film sounded the Soviet march of aviators, and not their German Das Berliner Jungarbeierlied
https://youtu.be/7Vqz-ALlwMM
Wherever the Gestapo looked.

[Uncle lee]

Here red stars alone are indispensable.

"And in all ships, in trains,
Driven in our RED STAR "!
They envy ....

[PROXOR]

They will not understand this. The mind is not enough. You can use them in a simpler way and in their understandable language.

[Anachoret]

beauty) is already breathtaking)

[tralflot1832]

And what do you want, corruption (lobism) in the United States in action. Our pilots, one propulsion F 16 is considered not the best aircraft, here is the F 15, it is a worthy opponent in capable hands.

[figwam]

If the F-16 was needed by our aviation, then why was it sold to a private company? If it is not needed, why then a contract with this company for its further exploitation as an "aggressor"?

Just another legal way to steal the budget.

[Anzhey V.]

At the same time, after the "privatization" of the fighter, the American Air Force suddenly needed it again - as an aircraft that, in the course of real air training, will represent enemy aircraft

It is not clear why the author of the article is so outraged - in the USA this is a normal practice. There are a number of PMCs with retired military pilots from all over the world who are engaged in providing training battles for the Air Force.

Themselves buy equipment (including used in the US Air Force), maintain and repair it.

For the Air Force, this is several times cheaper than maintaining a separate fleet for practicing training battles.

They painted red stars and they think they imitate the actions of the Russians and the Chinese.

These PMCs were full of Russian pilots and pilots from the post-Soviet republics. And now it works.

[Egoza]

Quote: Anjay V.

It is not clear why the author of the article is so outraged - in the USA this is a normal practice.

And the author just now HAS COME! I woke up, dear, and gasped!

[vch62388]

I don’t understand something. The plane is private, the pilot is probably under a contract from former Air Force pilots or nat. guard. Aircraft in the United States Air Force. The owner company receives money for what? Because her equipment is being exploited by the army? In my opinion, a masterpiece cutting scheme. I will buy my own tank from the state and will lease it to the state.

[Egoza]

Quote: vch62388

I will buy my own tank from the state and will lease it to the state

And in between exercises, ride it to the market, so that it was like Zhvanetsky.

[Alexander 3]

Interestingly, this is not the UFO that crossed all of America and no one knew what it was.

[Popandos]

To imitate their actions, you need to understand the psychology of these pilots.

Try to explain to an American pilot who cannot fight because there are few shops on the base and he cannot buy Coca-Cola and Bubelgum, the psychology of NF Gastello or AP Maresyev.
I think it won't work.

[Sancho_SP]

It is quite obvious that using a private contractor is many times cheaper than a US Air Force pilot. Therefore, the tasks of unarmed vehicles should be transferred to a private company.

[El Barto]

In terms of money, not a fig is cheaper, but even more expensive. But the scheme provides a number of obvious advantages:
- responsibility for people and equipment is thrown off to the left civil office
- for reporting, the staff has been reduced, the old equipment has been written off, in the budget expenses have been transferred to the current expenses column, the Congress is happy
- the ability to expel hired personnel quickly and without compensation
- the possibility of rollbacks

According to the same scheme, the guys from NASA are implementing the "Musk space program"

In general, the next JSC Slavyanka in American style

[Sancho_SP]

Somewhere here the calculations have already been written. An hour of flight to the Air Force is several times more expensive due to the huge overhead costs of the army, which a private trader does not have.

[El Barto]

Oh well. It's like with us - a set of "office" uniforms in the army costs 20 tr, and in a store if you buy it yourself - 3 tr.
Only this is not a reason to give everything to the contractor, but a reason to think about whether the army needs purges a la 1937

[Sancho_SP]

From the point of view of kitchen conversations, cleaning is needed. From the point of view of an air force economist - outsourcing of non-critical tasks.

[El Barto]

"The Pentagon has made adjustments to its books of $ 35 trillion in just one year, more than the size of the American economy as a whole. This shows that the Department of Defense still cannot clean up the records ..."
https://inosmi.ru/economic/20200129/246732109.html

[JD1979]

And the Earth was captured by the Reptilians.

[ROSS_51]

Quote: Sancho_SP

It is quite obvious that using a private contractor is many times cheaper than a US Air Force pilot. Therefore, the tasks of unarmed vehicles should be transferred to a private company.

Is it okay that this is the simplest scheme for laundering the budget? And yes, quite the opposite - the price of a private contractor is much higher.

[Sancho_SP]

Will you give the numbers?

[El Barto]

35 trillion usd Missed in action ...

[Fedor M]

What is that muddy topic

[rocket757]

They painted red stars and they think they imitate the actions of the Russians and the Chinese. To imitate their actions, you need to understand the psychology of these pilots. She is different. Red stars alone are indispensable here

... Correctly noticed .... and so, one of his own on a "tasty" in a row sat down.

[Yrec]

We do not have in our armament an aircraft similar in characteristics to the F-16. Even the MIG-29 is slowly receding into the shadows. It would make sense for mattresses to use f-15 for imitation, but they are not enough for current tasks either. There is simply no sense in using such "aggressors". I believe that such manipulations with the F-16 are designed to use these machines in the interests of various PMCs in order to increase their strike capabilities.

[El Barto]

What? Ancient as mammoth poop, weakly armed and generally poor, light fighter, are you passing off as a wunderwaffe?
Mattress generals are not stupid either, so f16 goes to junk, and they modernize a really good heavy f15

[Bshkaus]

At us, too, in the exercises "red" and "blue" on tanks from one garage and nothing, the psychology of the enemy does not bother.
What difference does it make to who paints a private jet and how? If I had one, I would have completely painted it lemon and made a beige upholstery of the ejection seat out of suede

[Oleg Olkha]

“If the F-16 was needed by our aviation, then why was it sold to a private company? more importantly, they don’t know that these are Israeli F-16A retired and sold, after maintenance, to a Canadian company providing training services “for the enemy.” A total of 29 units at 2/3? million US dollars. numbers, including on the "Falcon", which took part in the destruction of the Iraqi reactor. The meaning of the "critical" note is completely incomprehensible.

[yehat2]

I don't know much how this group of pilots works, so they carefully study the training system of Russian pilots, look through the history of their actions and try to reproduce certain events that actually took place in the past. Particular attention was paid to training battles, which took place several times with dry planes. It's not just dumb aircraft repainting.
However, in general, the emphasis is simply on reducing the element of surprise when meeting - so that there is not too much adrenaline, so as not to put on pants and other unwanted reactions.

[stone]

This is an aircraft that was previously operated by the US military and then sold to the private company Top Aces.

The video shows an F-16 aircraft with camouflage used by the Israel Defense Forces. I think Top Aces bought old F-16A in Israel.

[JD1979]

2 dozen comments and most of them want to knock their heads on the table ... because either clownery or such an "authoritative opinion" with such calculations and conclusions both in terms of finances (at least you can count personal ones) and in terms of efficiency. How many people here have organized at least one teachings of at least a "nursery" group of a kindergarten? )))
PS: now I would teach someone to count his money ... also capitalists)) who will teach whoever you want.)))