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American flag with blue stripe at Ramstein base in Germany drew condemnation in USA: reasons for backlash

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Ramstein airbase in the federal state of Rhineland-Palatinate in Germany has long been used by the American military aviation for your needs. Not so long ago, a black and white American flag with a blue stripe was posted on the territory of the base. The servicemen of the base themselves hung the banner, but soon they had to face harsh criticism from both the public and the command of the US Air Force. But what are the reasons for such criticism and negative reactions?


In the United States, National Police Week was being held, and the flag with a blue stripe was placed by pilots of the 86th Air Wing as a sign of support and solidarity with American law enforcement. But this is where the cause of social reaction is rooted. The fact is that the flag, known as the "Thin Blue Line", is used not only as a symbol of solidarity with the American police, but also as a symbol of the American right.

Interestingly, история this flag dates back to the Crimean War with Russia. Then the 93rd Mountain Infantry Regiment of the British Army near Balaklava was able to delay the attack of the Russian cavalry, lining up in a line, which was later called the "thin red line" in the press. Then, in 1911, the poet Nels Dickman Anderson used the phrase "thin blue line" to refer to the American army as referring to the color of the uniforms of American military personnel.

But it was not until the 1950s that Los Angeles Police Department chief William Parker used the phrase "thin blue line (stripe)" to describe the activities of the US police, which he called a barrier against the threat of anarchy and chaos. Then the flag with such a stripe began to be used by the American far-right.

Such a flag can often be seen at meetings and rallies of right-wing radicals. It was with this flag that some Americans were seen storming the US Capitol in January 2021. Previously, the flag appeared at a rally in Charlottesville, Virginia - in 2017. In this case, hanging it takes on a double meaning.

American flag with blue stripe at Ramstein base in Germany drew condemnation in USA: reasons for backlash

The photo of the pilot with the flag "ambiguous for the United States" immediately led to the appearance of harsh comments. The Americans considered the appearance of such a flag a challenge at a time when the country was "fighting racism and police violence."

I was very surprised to see that at the base, pilots in military uniforms carry such a pronounced political flag,

- wrote one of the commentators.

More radical netizens saw the appearance of the flag at the airbase as an open demonstration of protest against the American-backed police reform. Other commentators noted that the flag was displayed at the airbase only a few weeks after the Pentagon announced the launch of a campaign to combat manifestations of extremism and racism in the ranks of the US armed forces.

True, what kind of support for racism can we talk about if in a photograph of an American serviceman with a flag with a blue stripe, it is clear that another serviceman is walking next to the standard bearer - an African American, and for some reason this American military flag does not cause embarrassment. Moreover, the African American is clearly participating in the flag ceremony itself.

However, officials at Ramstein AFB stressed that the flag was only used to praise the pilots of the so-called air police for their hard work. The statement of the representatives of the base also noted that the flag violates the Pentagon's policy regarding the use of symbols on military installations, but the air base takes full responsibility for this.

We value the reaction and feedback from the community and want everyone to understand that we take these situations very seriously. We will continue to focus on what brings us together as members of the armed forces, while creating an environment in which everyone is treated with dignity and respect.

- emphasized the pilots of the 86th wing.

Meanwhile, it is worth remembering that the previous US Secretary of Defense Mark Esper issued a decree restricting the use of a number of flags at facilities and during events of the armed forces. The ban, in particular, included flags with the symbols of the Confederation, which were often used by the military.
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  1. Alien From
    Alien From 13 May 2021 15: 03
    +31
    I don’t want to joke about the flag, but the rainbow one is just right for them .......
    1. Mouse
      Mouse 13 May 2021 15: 11
      +22
      Rainbow is so tolerant ... but with a blue stripe ... it turns out discrimination of other colors ... wassat
      1. Alex777
        Alex777 13 May 2021 19: 27
        +8
        Rainbow is so tolerant ...

        And you can officially hang on the embassy. wink

        but with a blue stripe ... it turns out discrimination of other colors ...

        It turns out to be a thick allusion to "subtle" circumstances. laughing
      2. Piramidon
        Piramidon 13 May 2021 23: 55
        +4
        With the blue stripe, everything is very clear. laughing

        1. Petrograd
          Petrograd 14 May 2021 14: 25
          +3
          Ugh, what an abomination can, of course, I'm behind life, it's somehow more pleasant and desirable to kiss a woman than to slobber with men like that stop
    2. dimy44
      dimy44 13 May 2021 15: 58
      +10
      And in the parade - the anthem of the Blue Oyster from the "Police Academy".
      1. engineer74
        engineer74 13 May 2021 16: 28
        +4
        Quote: dimy44
        And in the parade - the anthem of the Blue Oyster from the "Police Academy".

        At the Ramstein Base Independence Day parade? wink
    3. RealPilot
      RealPilot 16 May 2021 15: 48
      +1
      A strange era has come in the world ...
      It turns out that we are more on the way with the American right than with their left!
      Not in the sense that we love each other, here everyone is unanimous. And we and they.

      The question is soon about the values ​​that are confessed. It is about dislike for gay pride parades, respect for the law and a normal family, patriotism and, in general, a normal attitude towards life. The same Trump, in principle, was ready to seek a business compromise in relations with Russia, he wanted this. But politically he could not. We are able to coexist, and we can also mutually destroy - therefore we will coexist ...

      The American left is further from us in terms of values, their ideas of social justice are different. We did not have black slaves, there is no such a police state, and the emigration from Latin America makes its own demands.
      Do not forget that 100 million Indians were subjected to total genocide, and how do the inhabitants of Mexico and the countries to the south differ from them? Yes, nothing. They were just lucky they didn't cut them white. And they also remember everything, it's just that the Indian question is not raised. But latently, this idea of ​​justice also exists. They fill the States, there are more and more of them, they vote ...
      We have not had such an irreconcilable history of the struggle for extermination within our society.
      Only for ideas, but they change. People stay, reconcile. Your own!

      In general, we partly do not care who is in power there. It is easier for us to come to an agreement with the right, while the left is satisfied with the American 20s, which are beginning to resemble our 90s.
      And neither these nor these are capable of resolving the internal contradictions of the United States. So, there will be long conversations between Colt and Smith and Wesson ...
  2. tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 13 May 2021 15: 04
    +16
    Yes, let them destroy their history. In the 90s we already went through this. Glory to us, we began to get out of this cesspool.
    1. Doliva63
      Doliva63 13 May 2021 15: 31
      -24%
      Quote: tralflot1832
      Yes, let them destroy their history. In the 90s we already went through this. Glory to us, we began to get out of this cesspool.

      Well yes. We started to get out. Today, 25% of the population is on the verge of poverty. Or was there even more?
      1. tralflot1832
        tralflot1832 13 May 2021 15: 36
        -4
        Are you sure of these figures, but I know the problems of single-industry towns? I had a rest in such a city, for a thousand people 10 thousand on the edge, it catches the eye! Communists go ahead, at least in one city.
        1. sedoj
          sedoj 13 May 2021 15: 45
          +8
          Quote: tralflot1832
          Are you sure of these figures, but I know the problems of single-industry towns? I had a rest in such a city, for a thousand people 10 thousand on the edge, it catches the eye! Communists go ahead, at least in one city.

          What was that?
          1. tralflot1832
            tralflot1832 13 May 2021 16: 00
            -1
            Sorry gave in to the withdrawal.
          2. kulinar
            kulinar 13 May 2021 20: 33
            +1
            Quote: sedoj
            Quote: tralflot1832
            Are you sure of these figures, but I know the problems of single-industry towns? I had a rest in such a city, for a thousand people 10 thousand on the edge, it catches the eye! Communists go ahead, at least in one city.

            What was that?

            Exposure of faeces to the ventilator ...
            Not the first time.
        2. Doliva63
          Doliva63 13 May 2021 15: 52
          -7
          Are you sure about these numbers ...
          Of course not. They underestimate as much as they can. laughing
      2. VORON538
        VORON538 13 May 2021 15: 50
        +6
        In the 90s it was much more beyond the bounds, but you don’t want to remember this? Although, the director at any power, what then, what now, did not live in poverty, but ordinary people?
        1. Doliva63
          Doliva63 13 May 2021 17: 00
          -10%
          Quote: VORON538
          In the 90s it was much more beyond the bounds, but you don’t want to remember this? Although, the director at any power, what then, what now, did not live in poverty, but ordinary people?

          I remember the 90s very well. I, a Soviet military pensioner with a part-time job, not only had enough to feed, dress / shoe my family and buy all kinds of household appliances, but I also had to go to taverns. He worked as a security guard and head of the security department. Before the crisis of 98 I became a director. The 90s was just a transitional period in the current timelessness.
          1. Tank hard
            Tank hard 13 May 2021 21: 04
            +5
            Quote: Doliva63
            I remember the 90s very well. I, a Soviet military pensioner with a part-time job, not only had enough to feed, dress / shoe my family and buy all kinds of household appliances, but I also had to go to taverns

            In what different parallels did we live in the 90s ... My mother, an officer with the rank of senior, in the 90s received a salary often not in money, but in various clothes and food. Are you a retired Marshal of the USSR?))
            1. Doliva63
              Doliva63 13 May 2021 21: 21
              -4
              Quote: Tank Hard
              Quote: Doliva63
              I remember the 90s very well. I, a Soviet military pensioner with a part-time job, not only had enough to feed, dress / shoe my family and buy all kinds of household appliances, but I also had to go to taverns

              In what different parallels did we live in the 90s ... My mother, an officer with the rank of senior, in the 90s received a salary often not in money, but in various clothes and food. Are you a retired Marshal of the USSR?))

              Young man, the Ministry of Defense paid legal pensions regularly in different parallels in money. laughing
              1. Tank hard
                Tank hard 13 May 2021 21: 25
                0
                Quote: Doliva63
                Young man, the Ministry of Defense paid legal pensions regularly in different parallels with money

                How many grandfather, share. I'm curious ... I received 1500 American rubles in the period when 200 was considered very good for us. I can't say what was enough for me for a new car. And about pensioners in general it's cool, but maybe you had a special pension? What, how much, what?))
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          3. alexey sidykin
            alexey sidykin 17 May 2021 21: 06
            0
            Has there been enough for taverns? But my relatives in the 90s in the cities were glad if there was something to dine.
      3. Tank hard
        Tank hard 13 May 2021 20: 58
        -8
        Quote: Doliva63
        Today, 25% of the population is on the verge of poverty. Or was there even more?

        The times of the civil war and immediately after? Time of the Patriotic War and the period after it? Or did people live richer?
      4. akarfoxhound
        akarfoxhound 14 May 2021 07: 22
        +4
        Yes, there were more beggars in the 90s. And not only in monotowns, everywhere.
      5. Andrey Shiryaev
        Andrey Shiryaev 15 May 2021 12: 48
        0
        My dear, can you reach the horse in the ravine? Or do you sit on the porch, without a leg, in one sock?
  3. Gado
    Gado 13 May 2021 15: 08
    +6
    "Psychiatry" has already reached the flags. They invent it themselves, then they themselves "fight". I don’t even know what else to write without using foul language.
    1. carstorm 11
      carstorm 11 13 May 2021 15: 21
      +6
      It's getting worse. The police have already lowered the truth there in full. They were intimidated, so now it's better to get a knife in the side than to shoot at the bandos. Or imprisoned or simply destroyed morally. Now it all went to the army. Well, seriously, in the army, who should care what flag they hung besides their leadership? If they order it, they will remove it. Point. But no. Now the public will begin to search and swarm around in everything. Ugh damn it.
      1. Alex_You
        Alex_You 13 May 2021 16: 10
        0
        [media = https: //youtu.be/I54cnFrxsWY]
        No need, they shoot at everything that moves.
  4. Mark kalendarov
    Mark kalendarov 13 May 2021 15: 53
    +4
    [/ quote] ... but the airbase takes full responsibility for this .... [quote]

    I understand that it is necessary to hait and obsser @ t, but at least someone has eggs on the other side. Male deed.
  5. Decimalegio
    Decimalegio 13 May 2021 16: 07
    -2
    But what would happen if the imperial flag or the flag of the USSR fluttered in the Russian military barracks ??
    1. dzvero
      dzvero 13 May 2021 16: 41
      +7
      The roots of the modern flag of the Russian Federation are imperial. Flags from the times of the USSR can be seen at parades.
      I don't even know what could cause such a resonance ... the eventual LGBT flag, but the co-workers themselves will quickly hang the hanger and say that it was ...
      1. Decimalegio
        Decimalegio 13 May 2021 16: 51
        0
        then let's take another example. A group of military men waving the flag of another Russia
      2. Decimalegio
        Decimalegio 13 May 2021 16: 53
        -2
        Or the National Bolshevik Party
    2. Andrey Shiryaev
      Andrey Shiryaev 15 May 2021 12: 55
      0
      Hmm, really, how would the bosses react !? winked
      1. Decimalegio
        Decimalegio 15 May 2021 13: 07
        0
        That is, I do not know how it works in Russia. But the military must be neutral. I would not want the military of my country to wave the flags of the party, movement, in short, everything that represents a part of the country, and not all of it. Then the military have the right to express their political opinion, but not in uniform and not in service.
        1. Dilettante grandfather
          Dilettante grandfather 18 May 2021 04: 20
          0
          A logical wish. How do you feel about the fact that the military, after the collapse of the USSR, took an oath to other states? For me, the oath is given only once, and, by the way, it was in the oath ... And the one who changed the oath must be punished. Consequently, all the military personnel of the former USSR who took the oath to other countries should have been punished.
    3. alexey sidykin
      alexey sidykin 17 May 2021 21: 09
      0
      Don't you know that all Soviet flags of the units are kept next to the new ones?
  6. And Us Rat
    And Us Rat 13 May 2021 16: 31
    0
    That's really, someone is interested in understanding the political insanity of the Yankees. request
  7. xorek
    xorek 13 May 2021 17: 10
    -1
    The more there are different flags in the United States, the better for everyone in the world .. It's time to shake this world gendarme. These are the first bells
  8. Bshkaus
    Bshkaus 13 May 2021 18: 05
    0
    Philosophical question: which comes first, a chicken or an egg? If you follow the logic of the outraged, then 90% of the Tibetan culture, the symbol of which is the "fascist" swastika, should be burned. It is necessary to somehow select the context in which this or that event appears. If an African American stood next to him on all fours and a leash, then yes, there would be reason for indignation. And so banal stupidity
  9. Palestinian
    Palestinian 13 May 2021 18: 42
    +1
    hello ... i'm new to the site ... hope to get along with everyone
    1. Andrey Shiryaev
      Andrey Shiryaev 15 May 2021 12: 57
      +1
      No no, it won't go like that, either with us or against us wassat
      1. alexey sidykin
        alexey sidykin 17 May 2021 21: 11
        +1
        And who is with you
  10. cat Rusich
    cat Rusich 13 May 2021 20: 13
    +3
    The 93rd Sutherland Scottish Highlanders Regiment, formed in 1799.
    93rd British Infantry Regiment
    Here's a RED LINE from Britain.
    soldier
  11. Revolver
    Revolver 13 May 2021 22: 05
    +2
    Black and white flag - the so-called "tactical" flag, sewn onto camouflage instead of the red-white-blue standard flag. Blue stripe the thin blue line the symbol of the police, in America the police uniform is traditionally blue, and symbolizes the line between order and lawlessness.
    The same tactical flag, but with a red stripe, a symbol of firefighters.
  12. rocket757
    rocket757 14 May 2021 07: 38
    +2
    The Americans considered the appearance of such a flag a challenge at a time when the country was "fighting racism and police violence."
    When it is an end in itself, the fight against law enforcement officers, we can safely say that a fur-bearing northern animal sneaks up on the state!
    1. alexey sidykin
      alexey sidykin 17 May 2021 21: 12
      +1
      Well, we already went through this, and at 17 and 90 now it was the turn to the Yankees
  13. mojohed2012
    mojohed2012 14 May 2021 07: 46
    0
    Hey !. Where are the patriotic activists in the United States who will declare this flag the flag of the struggle for true democracy and equality for all in the United States? Under it, you can navigate the Capitol and unite BLM with antifa and radicals in a march against Bidon and the dictatorship of the Democrats. In general - you have more flags different and beautiful, so that the United States finally collapses and rests in Bose forever!
  14. Pastor
    Pastor 14 May 2021 08: 22
    0
    The military, as always, is the most conservative part of society and they understand for sure. Where all this chaos with blacks leads. In the World, contradictions are aggravated and peoples are rapidly being pushed to a fierce racial struggle
  15. Gunter prereen
    Gunter prereen 14 May 2021 09: 00
    0
    There would be no legal prohibition, there would be a flag with a swastika hung out there.
  16. fuffi
    fuffi 14 May 2021 15: 49
    +3
    Quote: Doliva63
    Today, 25% of the population is on the verge of poverty.

    In the 90s it was 70%. Forgot? Or did the Ehamatians read about the "air of freedom"?
  17. Dilettante grandfather
    Dilettante grandfather 18 May 2021 04: 13
    0
    Quote: Tank Hard
    Quote: Doliva63
    Today, 25% of the population is on the verge of poverty. Or was there even more?

    The times of the civil war and immediately after? Time of the Patriotic War and the period after it? Or did people live richer?

    Much richer. Because material goods were not considered a sign of "wealth". And wealth itself was not considered an achievement, people valued the mind, and not the thickness of the wallet.