Media: Terrorist Galyaviev went on hunger strike

New information is emerging related to the terrorist Ilnaz Galyaviev, who the day before attacked the Kazan school No. 175. He graduated from this school at one time. The media, referring to representatives of law enforcement agencies, write that during interrogations Galyaviev behaves defiantly, demonstrates aggression towards the investigator.

Today it became known that the terrorist refused the food provided to him and announced that he was going on a hunger strike. This fact especially outraged the public - given the crime Galyaviev committed and that he is trying to dictate his terms to the investigation.

Earlier in the media there was information that a few years ago, doctors diagnosed Galyaviev with a disease associated with a violation of brain activity. Attention is drawn to the fact that his relatives suddenly "remembered" this, noting that in the past few months Galyaviev began to behave aggressively and insolently. But even the day before, the relatives stated that “Ilnaz was a quiet and calm guy who never even raised his voice.”

If Galyaviev really has a disease associated with the activity of the brain, then this once again gives rise to the question of how he could even get a certificate from a doctor allowing him to own a firearm weapons? Although the question is hardly relevant, given the words of Galyaviev himself. According to some reports, during one of the interrogations, he said that he simply bought the certificate via the Internet. On the Internet, according to some media reports, he acquired knowledge of assembling an improvised explosive device. If all this is true, then questions arise about the monitoring system, which should identify and block this kind of commercial activity and information on the Web.

At the moment, a preventive measure is being taken against the terrorist.

Comments

[Fungus]

And hi is dying of hunger

[210ox]

Lost the shores of the scoundrel. Feed it through your ass with crushed glass.

[Bashkirkhan]

It would be better if Ilnaz was shot on the school porch. His neurons did not connect. But this process could be stopped. The question is that medicine is fragmented. Most likely, the parents did an MRI somewhere for a fee, they turned to a neurologist, but did not receive a clear explanation and specific advice. Not registered. But the parents left Ilnaz on time, otherwise they would have fallen into the category of "biowaste". Hot temper, aggressiveness were noted by relatives, at home a laboratory for the production of centuries (five packs of saltpeter; a bottle with a tincture of the medicine "Fly agaric"; one pack of silica gel; aluminum powder; scales; clock mechanism; nails), he had a gun and ammunition in the amount of 350 pcs. Psychiatry has nothing to do with it. This is primarily neurology. But untreated and therefore leading to personality degradation. Passers-by, past whom Ilnaz passed with a gun, showed indifference and did not call the police.
Children and teachers were buried today.

https://m.business-gazeta.ru/article/509019

[Pathos]

Not. Someone advised him to do this, at 19 there is not enough brains for this. To reveal the whole chain of clever people and, as the guarantor says, to wet in toilets anywhere in the world up to the tenth generation and so that infa would reach all accomplices and bring them down to the last so that they would know that they would be found everywhere and were shaking all the time until their imminent death.

[Aleksandre]

Quote: Paphos

Not. Someone advised him to do this, at 19 there is not enough brains for this.

Who advised Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold? Yes, no one, they did it themselves, because a stupid thing is simple.

[Shurik70]

That is why it was worth taking him alive.
Find out - by yourself, not by yourself. How did you get the weapon, who helped. I bought a mental health certificate from someone.
And then everything is correct. Publish a list of the perpetrators, complain that laws on their adequate punishment are impossible, the maximum is a fine. And then publish about the impaled "unknown"

[210ox]

Is he mentally ill? You can get help anyway. He was not registered, he had no dealings with the police. Just a freak out geek. Although I'm sure the chain of weapons permits will go through. Trampling with boots. And they will do the right thing.

[Alex777]

Just a freak out geek.

It seems to me that the bastard will be especially guarded so that he will live to see the trial. But then they may not save ...

[hirurg]

I think he was counting on being taken alive.
And then break the comedy.
They will, definitely. And I am for!
We are responsible.
Lifetime.
And rot slowly.

[Alex777]

And cynically, force-feed ...

[Bad_gr]

Quote: Alex777

And cynically, force-feed ...

And then mercifully impale.

[Pathos]

Save the same from Beslan sits and is still alive. Here it is necessary to understand carefully the case is not the first. And with relatives there is already a confusion, then quiet, then not quiet, and where the jerk took the money to buy a barrel and ammunition bought up to 1000 rounds of a fig sse think about what they were transported is not 5,45 from the Kalash (33 horns) but more volume ??? And with the halabuda a problem surfaced, a lot of competent questions will be sorted out.

[volodimer]

That is why it was worth taking him alive.
Find out - by yourself, not by yourself.

Here I agree with you.
But with:

I bought a mental health certificate from someone.

there is no. This one is from the category of breakviks. He's not a nutcase, he's a willful killer. And such can not be calculated by every psychologist and not within the framework of standard procedures provided for by law. I myself received a weapon permit. This is a formality. The procedure should be tougher, but such as not to become corrupt. I don’t know how to keep the edge of rationality. It's like the issues of technical inspection in the traffic police.
As for what the punishment should be, the cruelty here should be extreme.

[Egoza]

And here Soloviev shows them very clearly: just "in the face"
https://oko-planet.su/politik/newsday/647014-instamerzost-solovev-rezko-osudil-oppozicionerov-obescenivshih-tragediju-v-kazani.html

[Barberry25]

Yes, my parents didn’t do anything, and that’s all

[Bullba]

Uh no, death is a joy for him, let him sit for life in a special regime prison.
Although, in my opinion, such people should be allowed to experiment.

[Pushkar]

Quote: Bashkirkhan

Passers-by, past whom Ilnaz passed with a gun, showed indifference and did not call the police.

That's for sure. Everyone around is to blame. Poor child ... (Journalists of many publications declare the 19-year-old bastard a teenager!)

[Piramidon]

Quote: 210ox

Lost the shores of the scoundrel. Feed it through your ass with crushed glass.

Why feed him at all? Let him die.

[fruc]

..... during one of the interrogations, he said that he simply bought the certificate via the Internet. On the Internet, according to some media reports, he acquired knowledge of assembling an improvised explosive device.

From here I draw a conclusion - sane. Put this stuff in for life. Let's see at the same time what our justice is worth.

[210ox]

And what about justice? You can't make a "sacrifice of the regime" out of it, just a fool. But here it is obvious that it will not work. The insane can be tried for a much less dangerous crime. As that one "experienced" told me that having committed theft, he began to mow like a fool. And I strongly advised against following his example.

[Kisa]

Quote: frruc

what is our justice worth.

Well, what does the work of justice have to do with it. that they cover the Aligarh or are somehow interested ... here is just a sick psycho. right now, psychos on the street every 2nd with a spring exacerbation with lockdowns pandemic negative from the media. Myanyakov is advertised here and there by Malakhov and the Horse. serial about chikatilo identity such itself. the gods here and there divorced.

[fruc]

Just in time for the executive power in the face of justice (and not only) there are many questions. Why murderers and rapists receive short sentences, are released on parole, if they have to rot in the zone, why state thieves. funds get off with such low terms, and even conditional sentences. Why do we have government officials with convictions, etc.

[Akuzenka]

Why do murderers and rapists receive short sentences, are released on parole, if they have to rot in the zone, why are the thieves of the state. funds get off with such low terms, and even conditional sentences. Why do we have government officials with convictions, etc.

The answer is banal and simple - CAPITALISM !!!!!!!

[Revolver]

Quote: 210ox

Lost the shores of the scoundrel. Feed it through your ass with crushed glass.

Insert a thermorectal cryptanalyzer into him, he will ask to eat.

[Victor Tsenin]

Cancel the nasty moratorium and feed it through the neck with an ax

[smart ass]

And for a garnish of glass wool

[Plastmaster]

Quote: 210ox

Lost the shores of the scoundrel. Feed it through your ass with crushed glass.

Just give it to the people. He will eat himself.

[NF68]

Quote: Fungus

And hi is dying of hunger

Wouldn't it be better to force-feed him from the “other side” of the digestive tract?

[nikon7717]

In the USSR, there was a practice of assigning public works useful to society. Remember like in Shurik's adventures. For the duration of the investigation (and all the same), he must be ordered to wash the toilets of public chlorine-containing agents. For the whole day, 12 hours a day. And let all the future ones be so "frostbitten" that they will not get glory on the Internet, but rather hard work at the bucket. You look change their minds.

[seregin-s1]

Don't let him die! Will die too easily!

[knn54]

Alas, but without the death penalty, it seems. not enough.
Do not contain such non-people at the expense of citizens for the entire life period allotted to them.

[paul3390]

The devil only knows, a life-long stricter can be worse than death .. It's another matter - there is no need to maintain it, what do we have - for example, have uranium mines been exterminated?

[210ox]

At these very mines, normal people work. And they receive a good salary with serious labor protection and social services. benefits.

[paul3390]

Well, such - let them work for free .. And a lot. Without any labor protection and benefits there.

[Starover_Z]

Quote: paul3390

Well, such - let them work for free .. And a lot. Without any labor protection and benefits there.

Or else to collect dead wood in the forests, disassemble the rubble, put the forests in order.
For a stew, for life!

[fruc]

Such rats will dig a hole in the forest and will sit there quietly. Then look for him with the dogs. Such should sit on a steel stool 30 * 30 in a red chamber ankle-deep in water.

[private person]

What do we have - for example, the uranium mines were exterminated?

The mines are not extinct. only who do they belong to? An electric chair would probably cool the ardor of people who like to shoot people. But we have humanists in power.

[210ox]

What are you ?? !! If the moratorium is released, a bunch of parasites will lose their business trips to Europe.

[NF68]

Quote: knn54

Alas, but without the death penalty, it seems. not enough.
Do not contain such non-people at the expense of citizens for the entire life period allotted to them.

Better life-long and at the same time to work constantly.

[Revolver]

Quote: knn54

Do not contain such non-people at the expense of citizens for the entire life period allotted to them.

In an American prison, child killers do not live long, but brightly. They enjoy universal love there, mostly to the point. What point breaks, unable to withstand the general, violently expressed love.

[Lech from Android.]

Lord, another psycho ... we didn’t have enough Bobokulova, and then again he was sick in the head and how he could get a certificate from a psychiatrist.
I suppose in this situation, and he will escape punishment ... bad ... very bad ... the worst case.

[Egoza]

Quote: Lech from Android.

again sick in the head and how he could get a certificate from a psychiatrist.
I suppose in this situation, and he will avoid punishment ..

Well yes! "Their bin is sick" "Poor boy" It is necessary to treat, and there is some kind of amnesty thread .... Only to put these against the wall. And, life sentence is not perceived by the "teenage generation" as something terrible. But a firing squad or an electric chair (we can borrow it from the USA. It is used there) - this will work.
Are you talking hungry? Well, so we have freedom of citizens! Let him starve, lose weight, otherwise the brains swam with fat.

[Alexander Seklitsky]

Quote: Egoza

But a firing squad or an electric chair (we can borrow from the USA.

Yes, no, why do we need their overseas wisdom. Our ancestors had a great way of execution for such ...

[Revolver]

Quote: Egoza

electric chair (borrowed from the USA. It is used there)

Not. The chairs are now mostly in museums. The workers remained only in a couple of states, but even there the standard method of execution is injection. True, in some states, the convict has the right to choose, which includes an electric chair as an option. And even then not all, but only convicts before the state switched to injections (it happens that they sit on death row for decades, while there are unhurried appeals).
And why such difficulties? Don't you have ropes for sale? If necessary, I will gladly send for a good cause. But a suitable tree will have to be found on the spot, since the expulsion is fraught with too much difficulty.

[Aleks2048]

In order for him to otmazatsya it is necessary that the expert wrote that this scum at the time of the crime was not sane ... And this is obviously not so. This scum was sane at the time of the crime and was clearly aware of this in favor of both the duration of the implementation of the plan and the dynamically changing environment (left the house, walked along the street where passers-by and cars, extraneous sounds, etc. in the school itself came to class, and not in the corridor), well, the cherry on the cake of sanity is surrender to law enforcement agencies. I ask you not to notice any escape from the deed when realizing what happened, namely, surrender at the scene of the crime. So I will be directly curious to look at the medic who will sign the sanity.

[Alex777]

So I will be directly curious to look at the medic who will sign the sanity.

In addition to you, there are relatives of those killed and injured.
I'm not worried about the future of this freak. He didn't have much time left.

[Bradley]

They will force or put a dropper. I don’t envy him already in prison, a "happy life" is guaranteed for him.

[tank64rus]

The devastation nests not in gun shops, but in heads.

[For example]

The heads are in ruins, and the gunsmiths supply those heads.

It's a business for them. Nothing personal.

The arms trade is not a business of ordinary citizens.

Ordinary citizens end up mourning the dead.

[tralflot1832]

Even hesitate about what the media write. Investigators, after each interrogation, stand in line to the journalists? Well, Well, there’s nothing saint. I’m only interested in, maybe in such cases it is necessary to revive the death penalty. The investigation and the trial are two weeks and the sentence!

[Volodin]

Quote: tralflot1832

Even hesitate about what the media write. Investigators, after each interrogation, stand in line for journalists?

So a video with this scumbag somehow appeared in the media ...

[tralflot1832]

You mean where he lies in the cage. So this is to the people once, show! Or were there other videos?

[paul3390]

Because not a single psychiatrist, during the time of the medical examination, is able to reveal deviations in the psyche in principle .. Alas, we have to admit that the new medical examination is just a profanation of an idea. Stupid for show. Apparently, we need some other methods to control the sanity of applicants. And for sure - you can’t issue permits for weapons in such early years .. All the more so - to those who did not serve .. 25 years, and the presence of at least some kind of social status - IMHO, the minimum conditions. When a person has already achieved something in life and showed who he is. And then remembering myself in those years - the brains are absent as a class, continuous spermotoxicosis and hormones .. What the hell is a weapon in personal possession ..

[Devyatomayets]

Quote: paul3390

25 years, and the presence of at least some kind of social status - IMHO, the minimum conditions.

I agree. Service in the army, when a person is given weapons and military equipment, then also needs to be shifted to the age of 25

[paul3390]

Once again, these are two different things. In the army, everything happens under the control of officers and sergeants. And you don't have any free access to weapons. You will be given it for the time necessary to perform duties. You can't open the armory and take the machine gun whenever you want, can you? And the safe at home - you can.

Although, to be honest, I personally always thought that 18 years is not enough for the army either .. I would have taken it later .. So that the crap could get out of my head at least a little.

[Devyatomayets]

Quote: paul3390

Once again, these are two different things. In the army, everything happens under the control of officers and sergeants.

In civilian life, everything happens under the control of officers and sergeants from the Russian Guard, who issue a permit for the right to own a weapon and control the conditions for its storage and transportation.

Since the right to bear arms was given to Ilnaz Galyaviev by Gulchechek Yakupova, a senior inspector of the department of licensing and permitting work in Kazan of the Rosgvardia Directorate for the Republic of Tatarstan, can you first ask Gulchechek Yakupova before making loud statements?

[paul3390]

In civilian life, everything happens under the control of officers and sergeants from the Russian Guard, who issue a permit for the right to own a weapon and control the conditions for its storage and transportation.

As I understand it, you don’t have your own weapon? Otherwise, such elfism would not have been driven here ..

[Egoza]

Quote: Devyatomayets

In civilian life, everything happens under the control of officers and sergeants from the Russian Guard, who issue a permit for the right to own a weapon and control the conditions for its storage and transportation.

And how did enta "barishnya" control him?

[tralflot1832]

I wonder if she herself told this to journalists? Or is there a database of all licenses in the public domain? Or is she alone in this department.

[paul3390]

first ask Gulchechek Yakupova

And what is Yakupova? She was guided by the certificate of the medical board and other submitted documents. In which, apparently, everything was clean. Unless, of course, she gave a litsuhu for money .. She is not able to check the documents, because the LRO does not have access to medical bases. At least not before. And I doubt that such centralized databases exist at all ..

[Devyatomayets]

Quote: paul3390

And what is Yakupova?

Quote: paul3390

She was guided by a certificate from the medical board

Quote: paul3390

Check documents - she is not able

Quote: paul3390

I doubt that such centralized databases exist at all ..

Then why nafig do you need a "department of licensing and permitting work in Kazan of the Rosgvardia Directorate for the Republic of Tatarstan"? Let the person with a certificate from the clinic go to the store and buy a weapon.

[bk316]

In civilian life, everything happens under the control of officers and sergeants from the Russian Guard,

What is it like? Does such a sergeant sit in the PND and the Narcological Dispensary and monitor the doctors?
Vanyusha, did you get a license for a weapon?

By the way, the Rosguard also has nothing to do with the control of storage - a simple district officer.
And the weapon is not carried, but transported.

[HaByxoDaBHocep]

You are mistaken, just the opposite, now Rosgvard checks the trunks and not the district one

[Egoza]

Quote: paul3390

and for the army 18 years is not enough .. I would have taken it later .. So that the crap could get out of my head at least a little.

So they will make such a mess before the army (18 years old) .... Many are just waiting for this "miracle" to be taken away.

[Alexander Seklitsky]

Quote: Devyatomayets

I agree. Service in the army, when a person is given weapons and military equipment, then also needs to be shifted to the age of 25

In general, do not give weapons to white riders and all persons before serving in the RF Armed Forces. Let them feel inferior all their lives. As a matter of fact, it was so in the USSR, for the boy it was scary if he was not taken into the army. The stigma of shame is provided, especially in the village.

[Devyatomayets]

Quote: Alexander Seklitsky

In general, do not give weapons to white riders and all persons before serving in the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation.

Are you going to personally take away Marshal Zhukov's lucky dagger from Shoigu?

[Alexander Seklitsky]

but do I have such authority? I would not only have a dagger, but I would have taken away all the medals from him. With all due respect to him, but what he put on at the victory parade is a complete overkill. And we still laughed at Brezhnev for the four stars of the hero

[paul3390]

As for me - I would not serve without serious medical contraindications - in general, I would not even take government positions. And for the elective. I didn’t want to serve society - where do you even go?

[bk316]

As for me -

Eh Pavel We will not live to see this happy time ...

[bk316]

Do not give weapons to white riders at all

But this idea is correct. If a person is not fit for military service, then probably he cannot own a weapon either. It is logical after all.

[Alexander Seklitsky]

the only exception is for hunters and hunters, and then with an internship in a hunting society and with the guarantee of two experienced hunters.

[Revival]

That is, you so boldly write down a large number of people as inferior?
They freed some of the smartest for further study and maybe breakthrough technologies, and you to him, you know, we officially consider you inferior.
Can you still sew a sign on his clothes?

[Alexander Seklitsky]

Quote: Revival

Freed some of the smartest for further study and maybe breakthrough technologies,

Well, let him work in the mental field, why does he need a weapon? If a person is medically unfit for combat service, then he is not entitled to a weapon. Let us then give out driver's certificates to both the epileptics and the blind. Well, which of them are inferior to do? So it turns out, following your logic.

[LTMax]

Quote: Alexander Seklitsky

Well, let him work in the mental field, why does he need a weapon?

For home defense, isn't it? In some places, by the way, bears regularly come to visit. Although you are probably a master of handicrafts and can easily drive him away with a hatchet or a shovel. Or even break it with a masterful sambo technique.

Quote: Alexander Seklitsky

Let us then give out driver's certificates to both the epileptics and the blind

Blindness and seizures prevent safe driving. Share - how, for example, goiter prevents safe double-barreled shooting at ducks?

Quote: Alexander Seklitsky

Well, let him work in the mental field, why does he need a weapon?

This is definitely not for you to decide. Whether he needs a weapon or not is up to the person himself. And whether he can have a weapon or not should be decided by the medical board and law enforcement agencies. But for some reason you want to "ban and not let go."

[Revival]

Yes, of course, flat feet absolutely prevent him from wielding a weapon, he is immediately defective, even if he knows

[tralflot1832]

There are such professionals, psychiatrists, who take them out in half a minute of neoquat. I saw such a circus at medical commissions several times to obtain a license or renew it.

[paul3390]

Alas, you can't get enough of such pros for all the medical boards in the country ...

[Devyatomayets]

Quote: paul3390

Because not a single psychiatrist, during the medical examination, is able to identify abnormalities in the psyche in principle ..

The military registration and enlistment office recognized Ilnaz Galyaviev, who organized the shooting at a school in Kazan, fit for service, despite the brain damage. This became known to the LIFE SHOT Telegram channel.

According to his data, the attacker has been registered in the clinic since 2017 with a diagnosis of encephalopathy (a set of symptoms that characterize brain damage and the death of its cells - approx. "Lenta.ru").

The relatives said that they knew about the illness: after leaving school, the young man complained of headaches and soon went to the hospital. It is assumed that his condition worsened last summer, at the same time he practically stopped communicating with loved ones and became secretive.

Earlier on May 12, psychiatrist Igor Lazarev said that Galyaviev's condition, based on his behavior during interrogation, was similar to schizophrenia. According to the specialist, in the speech of the suspect, one can trace a negative attitude towards the mother, which is often manifested in patients with schizophrenia. Also, according to the doctor, the shooter's phrases that he realized his mission and considers himself a god, testifies to the systematization of delirium, which has acquired a certain system, structure.

[Aag]

Quote: Devyatomayets

Quote: paul3390

Because not a single psychiatrist, during the medical examination, is able to identify abnormalities in the psyche in principle ..

The military registration and enlistment office recognized Ilnaz Galyaviev, who organized the shooting at a school in Kazan, fit for service, despite the brain damage. This became known to the LIFE SHOT Telegram channel.

According to his data, the attacker has been registered in the clinic since 2017 with a diagnosis of encephalopathy (a set of symptoms that characterize brain damage and the death of its cells - approx. "Lenta.ru").

The relatives said that they knew about the illness: after leaving school, the young man complained of headaches and soon went to the hospital. It is assumed that his condition worsened last summer, at the same time he practically stopped communicating with loved ones and became secretive.

Earlier on May 12, psychiatrist Igor Lazarev said that Galyaviev's condition, based on his behavior during interrogation, was similar to schizophrenia. According to the specialist, in the speech of the suspect, one can trace a negative attitude towards the mother, which is often manifested in patients with schizophrenia. Also, according to the doctor, the shooter's phrases that he realized his mission and considers himself a god, testifies to the systematization of delirium, which has acquired a certain system, structure.

In-oh-from the question: Rossguard in schools (kindergartens, youth theaters, shopping centers, sports sections, etc.) to shove, or medicine (education, upbringing, etc.) to reanimate (after "optimization ") ?!
Can anyone remember that something like this happened in the USSR? There were no guards in schools, kindergartens. Guns were often hung on the walls ... Only on TV they didn’t play crap on the money of "taxpayers" were collective farmers, workers ...).

[Sidor Amenpodestovich]

Quote: paul3390

Alas - but we have to admit that the new medical board is just a profanation of the idea. Stupid for show.

Read about Rosenhan's experiment.

[paul3390]

What for? Unlike you, I passed the weapons medical examination more than once. Therefore, I have an excellent idea of ​​its realities ..

[Sidor Amenpodestovich]

Quote: paul3390

Unlike you, I passed the weapons medical examination more than once.

What self-confidence! Are you clairvoyant?

[Avior]

Very controversial
Somewhere in a village in the taiga, a guy of about 14 years old with his father goes hunting, and not giving him permission, pushing him to illegal use of weapons.
The rules for obtaining weapons should take into account such subtleties

[bk316]

Sometime in a village in the taiga, a guy of about 14 goes hunting with his father, and not giving him permission, pushing him to illegal use of weapons.

If he shoots while hunting at the age of 14, he has already violated it.
According to the law, he will now never receive permission at all.
And his father, too, because he gave him the weapon.

I am regularly asked to "let me shoot" - I send everyone to the shooting range.

[Alexander Seklitsky]

Come on, come on. Father is responsible for weapons. We, originally from the villages, held and fired weapons at the age of 12. And how else will the fathers pass on their experience ??? It's another matter if you are asked by a person whom you do not trust. Northern peoples generally learn hunting from the age of seven. They can have a hunting weapon from the age of 16

[bk316]

Yes, leave those you. Here the father is responsible for the weapon.

This is how they break the laws.
Both are in the answer.

[Alexander Seklitsky]

Well, actually the law prohibits the unauthorized use of weapons. In addition, a hunting rifle is more of a tool than a weapon. There, even the storage and transportation conditions are completely different. Now, if a child grabs a gun from his father without asking, then yes, then sanctions must be applied, and if the shooting is carried out under direct control, then I do not see anything illegal in this. In Soviet times, there was an NVP where schoolchildren fired from a machine gun. You don't have any objections to this, do you? Of course, you can object that there is a shooting gallery and all that, but hunting weapons are used exclusively in the place where the voucher is written out.

[bk316]

Even the storage and transportation conditions are completely different.

They wrote the complete crap. Let's go point by point.

hunting weapons are used exclusively in the place where the voucher is issued.

On the contrary, Clause 2014 (62), introduced in the Weapons Circulation Rules, introduced in 1, says: "Citizens of the Russian Federation who have permission to legally store weapons belonging to them can use them for educational and training purposes at shooting facilities."
Any questions?

if the shooting is carried out under direct control, then I do not see anything illegal in this.

Nothing like this ... In this case, the owner of the hunting weapon commits an administrative offense - illegal transfer of civilian smooth-bore firearms, for which administrative liability is provided under Part 6 of Art. 20.8 of the Code of Administrative Offenses of the Russian Federation, and a relative commits an administrative offense in the form of illegal carrying of civilian smooth-bore firearms.
Any objections?

Do you forgive the permission to carry? You would have to undergo retraining: both questions from the exam on safe possession of civilian weapons.

[Alexander Seklitsky]

It's so good that my father was not as boring as you It's probably hard to be like that in life.

Quote: bk316

weapons belonging to them on a legal basis, can use it for educational and training purposes at shooting facilities. "

Well, well, with a 12 gauge in a shooting range, shoot that very thing. And most importantly, one-on-one, like hunting a duck, right?

Quote: bk316

Do you forgive the permission to carry? You would have to undergo retraining: both questions from the exam on safe possession of civilian weapons.

Yes, there is MC-2112 left from my father, with which I started hunting when I was twelve years old. Well, in short, I was strong enough to hold it in my hands. After the death of my father, I registered it for myself. From the age of 14, he worked on a tractor in haymaking. MTZ 80 was at that time and he was driving a motor boat with a vortex 30 motor. Here is such a "happy childhood" I had. I was the only child in the family, I had to help my father. There was no time to breed nurses. The farm kept its own. There were 90s in the yard and mothers were not paid a salary for six months. Yes, and I was not the only such child. Everybody lived like that, they grew up early. If any of the parents professed your morality then, then their children grew up to be idiots. Neither steal nor guard ... as they say

[Avior]

formally, he could not shoot, but collect game and study.
But I'm sure many are shooting.
I myself shot as a child, when I went with a friend along with his father, a hunter.
Although he lived not in the taiga and not at all in hunting places.

[Free wind]

Many of our snipers in the Second World War have been using weapons since childhood. Before the war, the Voroshilovsky shooter movement was very developed. They took up weapons from elementary school. Until about 65, guns were sold freely in stores. A simple single barrel cost 6-8 rubles, it was possible to buy for change after buying an ax, if the seller did not have money for change, age did not matter.

[Tagan]

"A few years ago, doctors diagnosed Galyaviev with a disease associated with impaired brain activity."
It may so happen that this character will soon be diagnosed with some other disease, but incompatible with life. Anything can happen ...

[K-50]

Terrorist Galyaviev went on hunger strike

Do not feed !!! Let him die if there is enough willpower !!!
How many parents did he make to shed tears!
What about children? What have the children to do with it? No matter how "upset" he was, they were in elementary school when he graduated !!!
And the teacher? With whom I did not even contact, since she came to work after his graduation !!!
Do you want to become the "arbiter of destinies"? Die !!!
Die t var !!!
Let the devils in Hell "re-educate" you in the cauldron !!!

[O. Bender]

Pour hot tar down his throat,

[anjey]

How could he even get a certificate from a doctor allowing him to own a firearm?

The grimace of capitalism, money decides everything, now 80-year-olds with two heart attacks are quietly extending their driver's licenses in private clinics ..... So the right to a gun for a jerk and training was most likely paid by his parents, and if not, then Islamic terrorist recruiters.

[Alexey Stepanov]

At the moment, a preventive measure is being selected against the terrorist

I propose to let go on all four sides
Let the parents of his victims deal with him

[Egoza]

Quote: Alexey Stepanov

Let the parents of his victims deal with him

In-in. Already daddy says that he will "come to his senses" and will be ready to meet with the parents of the victims .... he wants to pay off .... radish!

[Tagan]

Quote: knn54

Alas, but without the death penalty, it seems. not enough.
Do not contain such non-people at the expense of citizens for the entire life period allotted to them.

Moreover, the guilt is obvious.

[Russobel]

If Galyaviev really has a disease associated with the activity of the brain

...
Then this brain activity must be stopped ...
Shot in the back of the head.
Bulk ll, with his hunger strike.
Tfu !!!

[O. Bender]

Not only a psychiatrist with a narcologist, but also a district therapist, but also characteristics from school, university, place of work, from parents. To monitor the candidate for the acquisition of weapons in social networks, etc. Tell me nonsense? But what remains to be done Of course, service in the Armed Forces , The Ministry of Internal Affairs is a mandatory item. For the age category up to 25. From 25 the criteria can be relaxed. And then, the time from filing an application for a license to considering it is at least six months a year. During this time, a person can be turned inside out and back. passed a commission in the Ministry of Internal Affairs, after serving in the Armed Forces, with the rank of major, so psychologists, psychiatrists tortured him with tests. The therapist was a beast, but passed without restrictions, but my friend was not. They rejected it by heart. For the licensing system, this is of course troubles, but there is no way out.

[bk316]

For the permitting system, this is certainly a hassle, but there is no way out.

Yes, not so much trouble. By the way, earlier the characteristic and recommendation was needed.

[O. Bender]

I agree, I made out a smoothbore for hunting, I also provided recommendations from two hunters, and when issuing a hunting ticket, the procedure was similar. And about the hassle, I wrote about the scope of checking the candidate. And in our city there are two! ..the specialist of the licensing system.

[syndicalist]

An unnecessary argument in favor of the fact that it is not a problem for a criminal to have a weapon at all. Even with obvious, egregious signs of schizophrenia, as in this case. Therefore, any restrictions on the use of weapons apply only to law-abiding citizens.

[APASUS]

Now it will be very interesting to see who will begin to speak out in defense of this starving ghoul.

[fuffi]

So who else can. All the same. Literally six months ago, voices were voiced on all the country's Internet networks about the unfortunate boys and girls whom the regime had tied up in the "Network case". Assassinations, weapons and attack plans are different. They broke their lives.

[xorek]

Quote: APASUS

Now it will be very interesting to see who will begin to speak out in defense of this starving ghoul.

The same ghouls! They are inflating now allegedly a victim of a bloody regime, etc.

[Keyser soze]

This world is rapidly degrading. A hundred years ago this monster would have been shot in 5 minutes and the end of the drama. Two hundred years ago they would have shot them with their entire family and relatives, and that's it. And three hundred ago - the whole village would have been cleaned up and we would have gone to supper. Now he doesn't want to have dinner .... what a drama.

[Avior]

A hundred years ago?
Read the story of the Tiflis robbery - about 40 killed.
Of all the perpetrators, only one main organizer was brought to trial - Kamo - he received 4 death sentences, and not one was carried out.
https://ru.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Тифлисская_экспроприация

[Incvizitor]

Then everything about the heaped up broadcast now a new terrorist has appeared, he will be pounded all over the media for a year.

[saygon66]

- Why would he be a terrorist? Did you make political demands? It seems not ... He was in an organization of the current kind - also not ... One of these organizations took responsibility for the act - no ... He is crazy ... A psycho and a murderer ... And you don't need to make him a "fighter "- even in words. His place is in a psychiatric hospital - until the end of his days!

[Viktor Sergeev]

He's not crazy, he's just filthy.

[syndicalist]

If he walked to his school not with a gun at the ready, but with a placard about Putin, they would have tied him up near his entrance. And here is another kind of terrorism. Class close, so to speak.

[saygon66]

- But this time - it would be better with a placard. Terrorism, as an act, provides for the achievement of certain goals - it is, rather, a kind of technology. What real goals could the Kazan ghoul achieve?

[xorek]

Now liberalism will raise this scum, supposedly the power-bloody regime brought it, etc.
A wave begins ... to interrogate and strangle ...

[saygon66]

- Treat radically ... And, for free, mind you! Isn't that humane ?!

[Viktor Sergeev]

Sew up his mouth and ass, let him die of hunger or intoxication.

[ALEKSEY]

I will repeat, tk. I wrote my message in a similar thread when it is already far down the news list. The incident is unfortunate. There is essentially no point in commenting on it. I'm talking about something else (now, probably, I will inadvertently insult everyone). It is sad that you and I are rams in deep sleep. They made a loud event for us with the victims, with emotions. Further, he is actively sucked in all the media and social networks, in order to form certain conclusions and opinions in society. And then, on the prepared soil, pre-prepared tools (laws, restrictions, rules ...) will be introduced. Possible topics that will be raised as a result of the terrorist attack: 1) Promotion of distance education. Pus it is detrimental to education and human development, but it is "safe" and controllable 2) Organization of a security circuit in schools, kindergartens, clubs. Not by the forces of the National Guard or private security companies - neither people, nor forces, nor funds will be enough for this, but technical means. They will hang cameras with biometrics everywhere, assign tags to children, and so on. 0 will restrict parents' access to schools (which has already been partially done under the sauce of covid-quarantines. Development of the topic of controlling human movement during quarantines and curfews. 3) Launch of social rating of children. Will give them 3 colors. Green (loyal), yellow (requiring correction), red - dangerous for society (for the system). Again, all for the sake of our "safety". 4) Cleaning the population of weapons. Unlike the states, there is not a lot of it on hand, but it can create difficulties in establishing a new order of control over the population and managing its actions. By the way, the cleaning process in one way or another is now being launched all over the world in almost all countries. As well as the updating of the regulatory framework in terms of the growth of powers of the police and security forces (police state). Of course, there are still tasks related to the results of the terrorist attack, but so far they are not obvious to me. Many will say that our state (rulers) does not need everything. But these rulers are not united, they perform different tasks. Someone is really a patriot-statesman, while others have their bosses over the hill. In general, a fairly mature tool. Like September 11 - They made a pretext for the entry of troops into Iraq. As the strangulation of blacks in the states - a pretext for discrediting institutions in the United States. Etc. It's just that the scales are different everywhere.

[anjey]

Who sponsored it, training for a smoothbore, the weapon itself and ammunition, even more interesting IEDs, components, manufacturing, all the more it had to be tested somewhere before use, or is it still fitting the already tested and ready-made?
Parents not from the poor amused his requests or Islamist terrorist recruiters ???? More questions than answers.

[anjey]

Moreover, it looks like they got hooked on drugs.

[Free Island]

Well, let him die of hunger, damn maniac

[forcecom]

In his case, a therapeutic electric current supplied to the genitals will help against any brain disease. And don't tell me it's not humane. It is inhumane to leave such scum alive. Inhumane in relation to the parents of those children whom he killed. This creature must be executed, in public, slowly, so that it has time to realize what they will do to it, realize and be frightened, this creature must feel horror, beat, squeal, ask for mercy, it must experience what it experienced in the last moments of its life children. And to do it in public, be sure in front of those who conceived this creature, gave birth and nurtured, and broadcast it to others, so that it would not be common.
All the same, there was something useful and educational in public executions of the Middle Ages.

[Dikson]

More than one generation has been defiled .. "executing in public" now - will not help ... Youngsters will start taking selfies against the background of the executed, and scribbling comments on the Internet .. For this they climb with weapons to schools. - they want worldwide fame .. hatred and anger .. "bio-waste" .. - and how many similar inadequacies do we meet on the roads and just on the streets? The degree of anger in society is simply off scale .. Youngsters do not fight, but maim and kill .. adults, seemingly adequate people attack doctors in hospitals, drivers on the roads shoot at each other because someone did not give way. And even the threat of reprisals against the whole family will not help - such "shooters" absolutely do not care about their relatives and friends .. They are just rabid animals. They need to be shown on TV in the form of rotten dead stuff, and not to distribute interviews about them.

[Misha Honest]

that stupid man who shot at children!

[Radius]

let him starve. crawl in a couple of weeks.

[fn111]

This is becoming a good tradition.

[Pamir]

Somewhere it already flashed that he was insane, I don’t know the truth, no ?.

[Free wind]

The weapon has always been. And it will always be. And at the expense of age, remember the Civil War and the Second World War, then the children fought.

[Dikson]

Alexander, do you really see the difference between young people fighting an armed enemy and scum that kill unarmed children?

[Free wind]

It's about gun ownership.

[sgr291158]

Yes, the scum may die.

[zan_parti]

It's time to forcibly put beacons on all weapons sold to citizens. The beacon turned off - the departure of the alarm group. The beacon appeared in a public place - the departure of the alarm group. The beacon is approaching the school or has passed out next to it - its guard should be automatically notified about this, the school is closed until clarification. I went hunting - inform in advance the route of movement and along the way, be ready to be stopped a couple of times at traffic police posts, for sobriety and transportation rules.

Today, patients with covid are automatically tracked, I do not think that establishing the same system for gun owners will be a problem.

[Dmitry Potapov]

Give it to the relatives of the victims. They will make a decision fairer than any court. And they will solve the problem with a hunger strike.

[Mitya2424]

Lifting the moratorium on the death penalty is a necessary thing, but as a measure to guarantee the safety of children at school, it is not entirely suitable for the United States as an example! There will always be either psychos or suicide bombers who a priori are not afraid of death, and in this case, the only obstacle between these animals and the children will be in our case the grandmothers-watchmen and elderly 65+ chop officers. In my opinion, since the state constitutionally declares that children are its (state) future, then the state should literally protect children. There are 60 schools in my city, which makes it difficult to put in every armored glass at the checkpoint and put an armed Russian Guardsman there, all the same, this spotted gang does not do a damn thing in peacetime. And let them serve from 8.00 to 18.00.

[Kibl]

They will make a prisoner of conscience out of Lehi. And he is lousy, when he calms down, he will scribble applications to the ECHR and other vile offices.

[Givi_49]

Take him off his contentment.

[Reserve buildbat]

I hope the administration of the correctional institution will support his undertaking and will not feed him. Hunger strike, so hunger strike. Not like Savchenko, who "starved" in a "Russian prison", judging by the appearance of +8 - 10 kg.

[sifgame]

To force-feed rectally, it seems even legal.

[ljoha_d]

A bullet in the head to consolidate his hunger strike and do not let everybody bang the next monsters there will be a sensible and reasonable lesson!

[rjpthju]

In Soviet times, EVEN IN THE INFLAMMED BRAIN, this did not occur. There were no private security companies, there was the most terrible enemy of slovens, a cleaning lady, woman Masha. And no one was a decree to her, no director, ... no one. And the parents did not even think to complain about her. And education in schools ..., and the presentation of knowledge .... My daughter, after two months of working as a teacher of literature, with tears quit her job. This is who we educate, I mean the students. With which everything is possible. Limitless. Add to this the ban on smoking (show "Just you wait" after 24:00, the wolf smokes there) and the propaganda of violence, cruelty and drug addiction in the daytime. Now they are looking for the extreme ... Again, ordinary citizens are to blame, The weapons were entrusted to them ... The extreme are those who adopt the Laws on Education, and even more so those who sign them. What they wanted, they got it!

[Tarasios]

Being in prison, being the center of attention, it is very convenient and safe to declare hunger strikes. This spurs public interest, it will be possible to push a couple more appeals to journalists, and you will still be force-fed, you don’t need to work, it’s all profit. As for a freak who declared himself God - the height of dreams. And the hunger strike, in fact, turns out to be conditional. But, unfortunately, it will attract followers ... :( It always happens ...

[Tarasios]

Quote: zan_parti

It's time to forcibly put beacons on all weapons sold to citizens. The beacon turned off - the departure of the alarm group. The beacon appeared in a public place - the departure of the alarm group. The beacon is approaching the school or has passed out next to it - its guard should be automatically notified about this, the school is closed until clarification. I went hunting - inform in advance the route of movement and along the way, be ready to be stopped a couple of times at traffic police posts, for sobriety and transportation rules.

Today, patients with covid are automatically tracked, I do not think that establishing the same system for gun owners will be a problem.

Yeah, I hid the weapon in the safe, according to the law - I lost the signal beacon.
And yes, what about homemade explosives / poisonous substances, knives, brass knuckles, bats, etc.?

[alexey alexeyev_2]

Putting him in a woolen cell for a couple of days will be like silk.