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Desired Sudan: a new point of confrontation between Russia and the United States

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The US African Command Marines are likely to be deployed in Sudan soon. Photo source: africom.mil


"Accept the proposal of the government of the Russian Federation to sign an agreement between the Russian Federation and the Republic of Sudan on the creation of a logistics center for the Naval Fleet Of the Russian Federation on the territory of the Republic of Sudan ".

- Order of the President of the Russian Federation of November 16.11.2020, 279 No. XNUMX-rp "On the signing of an Agreement between the Russian Federation and the Republic of Sudan on the establishment of a logistics center for the Russian Navy on the territory of the Republic of Sudan."

I think that Russia's plans to build an MTO point in distant Sudan are no secret to anyone. The idea is certainly beautiful - the opportunity to have a small overseas base in the Red Sea, which would perfectly complement our Syrian "acquisition" in the waters of the Mediterranean ...

Strategic location. Military presence in North Africa. Operational capabilities in one of the world's busiest transport arteries.

Brilliant plans that seem to be on the brink of a foul.

In the minds of the layman, Africa is some kind of distant, uninteresting to the whole world place of deserts, stuffy jungles, myriads of insects and hungry locals who sent down their heavenly punishment for abandoning colonial existence. Such a view, of course, can take place, but it is absolutely far from the real state of affairs.

In reality, Africa is literally torn apart by foreign strategic interests.

One could talk indefinitely about China, France, Turkey, Great Britain and other players in this field, but for us at the current moment of time, only one is important - the United States of America.

Unfortunately for Russia, it just so happens that the United States does not want to see a Russian base in the Red Sea. And besides this, they need to deploy a new operations center on the African continent. Any action by Moscow in foreign policy is always met with tough opposition, and Sudan is no exception.

Economic leverage


In September 2020, the first official statements about the Russian MTO point appeared. In November, the president signed an executive order. And already in December, the US military and diplomats launched an "invasion of Sudan" - and, admittedly, very effectively.

It's worth starting with the fact that since 1993 Sudan has been on the American list of states sponsoring terrorism: the country's government was accused of involvement in terrorist attacks at the US embassies in Kenya and Tanzania in 1998, and was also credited with supporting the Lebanese Hezbollah (banned in the Russian Federation) and the Palestinian group "Islamic Jihad" (banned in the Russian Federation).

Relations began to change after the ouster of President Omar al-Bashir in April 2019. The new government abandoned the policy pursued by the previous leader and embarked on a course of improving relations with Washington: Sudan agreed to pay $ 335 million to relatives of victims of the 1998 terrorist attacks, and in December 2020 (what a coincidence!) The White House removed the country from the list of states sponsoring terrorism ...

This, alas, was only the first step of the Americans - the first, but far from the only one.

Then events begin to unfold more and more rapidly - special envoy Donald Booth arrives in Sudan. The diplomat expresses his support for the current transitional government, and in the subsequent negotiations with Prime Minister Abdullah Hamdok he agrees to provide the country with a bridging loan - it was with his help that Sudan paid off its debt to the World Bank.

Subsequently, Abdullah Hamdock will organize a public appearance to thank the United States of America.

Then there is a new meeting of special envoy Donald Bout with a high-ranking official of the Sudanese leadership - this time with the Minister of Finance and Economic Planning Gabriel Ibrahim.

In this case, they talked about much more serious things than a simple expression of support: the Sudanese minister asked for US assistance in "shaping the investment climate" of the country, and then they discussed the economic requirements for organizing the work of American and European banks in Sudan.


AFRICOM Deputy Commander for Civil-Military Cooperation Andrew Young on his first visit to Sudan. Photo source: africom.mil

Roughly speaking, Donald Booth negotiated the organization of working conditions for large Western capital. The beginning of the process with such a development of events, as it is easy to understand, is not far off - the start has already taken place.

So, on April 3, a World Bank delegation arrived in Khartoum with the aim of allocating two billion dollars to the government of Sudan, most of which will go to agriculture - and, naturally, this money will also be allocated with the participation of American investors.

Additional support for American diplomacy was provided by the Turkish side - the one with which the United States is allegedly in a state of terrible quarrel. On March 30, Turkish Ambassador to Khartoum Irfan Naziroglu issued a statement that in 2020, exports from Sudan to Turkey increased by 28%, reaching $ 105 million. And, according to him, the governments have a plan to increase the volume of foreign trade between the two countries.

In this way, the United States and its allies are forging strong economic ties with the devastated aftermath of the civil war in Sudan, a country in dire need of an influx of finance, investment, and good relations with major players, which no doubt include the United States.

“Sudan expresses its hopes for the development of economic relations with Turkey. Our country can greatly benefit from cooperation with Ankara, which will help us develop our economy, thereby contributing to increased trade ties. "

- Minister of Trade of Sudan Ali Gedo.

Military-political levers


At the end of 2020, the Sky News Arabia news agency reported the start of negotiations between Washington and Khartoum on a draft defense and security agreement.

It mentioned the possibility of deploying American troops at Sudanese military installations and ... the construction of a US African Command (AFRICOM) naval base in the Akik Kabir region, which is on the border with Eritrea.

Please pay attention to the dates - in November 2020, Russia and Sudan sign an agreement, and already in December, the States remove the country from the list of states sponsoring terrorism and begin negotiations on the deployment of their military.

Such a reaction at least deserves to be called "operational".

The following month, at the end of January 2021, the Deputy Commander of AFRICOM for Civil-Military Cooperation Andrew Young and the head of the Naval Intelligence Directorate Rear Admiral Heidi Berg paid an official visit to Sudan. They met with the already mentioned Prime Minister Abdullah Hamdok, Defense Minister Yassin Ibrahim and Chief of General Staff Mohammed Osman El-Hussein.


Rear Admiral of the United States Navy Heidi Berg and Major General of the Sudan Army Osman Siraj. Photo source: africom.mil

Officially, the topic of the talks was devoted to the interaction of the armed forces of the Sudan and the United States in the exchange of operational information and coordination of actions.

A little later, AFRICOM spokesman Colonel Christopher Karnes said that the United States was ready to help train the Sudanese armed forces, as well as military officials and security forces.

“This is a new beginning and the start of a renewed relationship between the United States and Sudan. This is a journey that we want to take together in order to deepen and expand our relationship. "

- AFRICOM Deputy Commander for Civil-Military Cooperation Andrew Young.

Local media claimed that during the January visit of the AFRICOM delegation, one of the topics of discussion was the refusal to host the Russian facility. The information service of the US African Command, in turn, piquantly bypassed this topic and did not spread about it in any way.

A month later, another significant event happened - on February 24, the American high-speed transport and landing ship USNS "Carson City" entered Port Sudan.

Desired Sudan: a new point of confrontation between Russia and the United States
USNS Carson City during a visit to Port Sudan. Photo source: africom.mil

For the first time in decades, a US Navy ship entered a Sudanese port. And the deputy commander of AFRICOM was quick to describe what was happening as nothing more than a fundamental change in relations between Khartoum and Washington. According to Andrew Young, this became possible only thanks to the efforts of the country's new government, which took a course to avoid the bloody legacy of the dictator Omar al-Bashir.

What makes USNS Carson City's visit truly remarkable is that it arrived in Port Sudan three days before the Russian frigate Admiral Grigorovich called.

An extremely prosaic hint, isn't it?

The "ship's pick" did not end there - on March 1, 2021, the USS destroyer "Winston S. Churchill" visited the country. His meeting was attended by a solid "personnel": the commander of the Sudanese Navy, Charge d'Affaires of the United States in Khartoum and the American military attaché.


USS "Winston S. Churchill" is located in Port Sudan. Photo source: africom.mil

At the moment it is only officially famous visits and media confirmed milestones of AFRICOM. One has only to guess how many American military specialists, officials, diplomats and intelligence agents are in Sudan. unofficially right now.

Why does the US need Sudan?


In addition to such a prosaic goal as depriving the Russian Federation of an MTO point and cutting off any military capabilities of our country in North Africa, America pursues a number of other, no less important goals.

Quite frankly, impoverished and devastated Sudan offers an excellent opportunity to undermine the economic, political, and military interests of all US adversaries.

Firstly, until 2020, Sudan was a transshipment base for Iran - there was a flow of weapons through the country, which Tehran supplied to the terrorist groups Hezbollah and Islamic Jihad (banned in the Russian Federation). Already now, the Americans can ban the entry of absolutely any ships of the Islamic Republic, completely destroying the supply channel.

Secondly, Sudan has proven uranium reserves of 1,5 million tons. This is a direct blow to Beijing's interests. In 2019, the Sudanese government entered into an agreement with the China National Nuclear Corporation (CNNC) that may soon be in jeopardy.

Third, America needs a new operational center on the African continent - AFRICOM has only a number of small military facilities, which are clearly not enough in the current conditions of the growing Chinese military presence.

Fourth, there is an important economic factor - the United States can become the exclusive supplier of a number of products vital for Sudan: weapons, medical and information technology, construction equipment, etc. Among other things, the country is one of the three African leaders in gold mining, which, of course, can also be a beneficial factor for beneficial cooperation.

So far, of course, it is too early to draw far-reaching conclusions about Khartoum's possible refusal to deploy a Russian logistics center - but it is worth keeping in mind the fact that such a scenario is also possible.

The material you have read, among other things, can be seen as an example of the impact of "soft power". Using the example of Sudan, the Americans are extremely good at demonstrating the effective work of diplomats and military advisers, practically in front of our very eyes, forming levers of economic and political influence in a country that until recently was formally considered hostile.
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  1. Borik
    Borik April 28 2021 15: 16
    +9
    Operatively, the United States was in a hurry, and it looks like we will never see an MTO point for our fleet in Sudan.
    1. Anatoly 288
      Anatoly 288 April 28 2021 16: 35
      +12
      I agree completely, “there is no fish there,” or rather we will not get it. Turkey has been building small and medium-sized enterprises since 2000, China invests in mining, the Emirates - agriculture, the Saudis mainly finance everything related to falconry, and so on. And Russia? In 2014, Lavrov came and there was a year of Russian friendship in Sudan, well, a little humanitarian aid and arms contracts, oh yes, our pilots fly on UN aircraft and ... and that's it, well, maybe something else. Apart from desires and dreams, we have nothing material there except the embassy building, unlike Turkey, China and other partners, and the chicken bites by the grain ... I'm afraid that there will be another cut, although the locals treat us well
      1. Ross xnumx
        Ross xnumx April 28 2021 17: 03
        +13
        The material you have read, among other things, can be seen as an example of the impact of "soft power".

        A strange kind of "soft power". For example, the United States received $ 335 million and practically established relations with Sudan, and Russia forgave $ 20 billion in debt (the bulk of Ethiopia, Algeria, Libya) and talk about warm friendship, as well as about MTO bases or some offshore platform for launches cannot at all.
        It seems to me that there are several reasons. One of which is that the ruble is not a dollar and is not even included in the list of reserve currencies, the other is that Russia's industrial goods are not competitive, and the country stopped producing galoshes for African countries immediately after the collapse of the USSR.
        It is completely incomprehensible to me how, in such a friendly atmosphere, Russia is able to defend its goals and intentions, if the whole world is shown that on the whistle from WADA some strange person approached the checkers players at an international tournament and removed the RF flag from the table and its image :

        Who can be interested in a partner who can be publicly insulted and even deprived of the symbols of nationality?
        1. bayard
          bayard April 29 2021 05: 36
          +1
          Yes, it's a shame. And the Olympics in gray "robes", without a flag and anthem was a shame and a lot of other things.
          But the Power of the Russian Federation is quite happy with everything - the "Mustache of the Kremlin" is a witness to this.
          But to have such a partner, and even more so a "patron" ... is not serious.
          Someone who only knows how to substitute his cheeks for slaps ...
          True, they began to expel diplomats in response.
          IN REPLY ! Karl!
          But the troops were also recalled to the barracks ... And the Sumerians celebrate "victory" ...
          A country without a Flag and Anthem, a country without currency ... without a State Bank ...
          Seven years on the cheeks whoever hits it ... and the Central Bank, as it was in the Russian Federation, is still in good health.
          As the Russian Federation did not have its own State Bank, it still does not.
          As there was no own ruble / its own currency, so it does not exist.
          As the advisers and consulting agencies from the USA and England wrote the laws for the Duma, they are writing ...
          Who needs a slave as a partner and even more so as a patron?
          Only to those who have no choice.

          Very sorry.
          And I really want something else.
        2. core
          core 4 May 2021 21: 17
          +2
          Guys, you are fixated on yourself, no one in Sudan even suspects about incidents with the flag, and not only in Africa, for example, most of the Spaniards do not know who Yuri Gagarin is.
          and we also stopped producing galoshes, but do the Americans produce something worthwhile?
          the reasons are different, and they are on the surface, and only the fools do not see the reasons. FEAR.
          we may or may not be loved, they may respect us, but they are not afraid of us, we will not destroy the country for no reason, we will not kill the leader of a party or state, and the United States may, everyone knows that they are inadequate.
          do not belittle your homeland with a refrigeration and clothing policy. do not judge people by themselves.
    2. Anzhey V.
      April 28 2021 21: 11
      +2
      Agreement on the establishment of a Russian naval base in Sudan suspended - al-Arabiya TV

      This news has appeared just now.

      Curtain, gentlemen.
      1. Anzhey V.
        April 28 2021 21: 50
        +2
        Sudan also stops "any new deployment of Russian military" - Bloomberg
        1. OgnennyiKotik
          OgnennyiKotik April 28 2021 22: 31
          +1
          Biden didn't try to place the blame to Turkey when he recognized the "genocide" of Armenians in the Ottoman Empire

          This was stated by Secretary of State Blinken. According to him, Biden's goal was to honor the memory of the victims.

          “However, it is also important to note that the President had a [April 23] good telephone conversation with President Erdogan.

          I know that they are with looking forward to meeting... There are many questions and areas on which we work closely together. Turkey is a critical ally The United States and NATO. We act like partners in many common regional and global interests

          We [the United States] will continue to pursue [maintaining] strong bilateral relations [with Turkey] that include expanded areas of cooperation, ”the foreign minister said.


          Agreed
          1. Anzhey V.
            April 29 2021 01: 05
            +3
            Agreed


            But our home-grown strategists still dream of a "war" between Turkey and the United States. Yes Yes...
      2. kapitan92
        kapitan92 April 28 2021 22: 10
        +3
        Quote: Anjay V.
        Agreement on the establishment of a Russian naval base in Sudan suspended - al-Arabiya TV

        This news has appeared just now.

        Curtain, gentlemen.

        Sudan announced the prefix of the agreement with Russia on the creation of a naval base on the territory of the African republic. This was announced on Wednesday by Al Arabiya TV channel.
        According to him, the agreement "signed by Moscow with the previous regime" is suspended "pending its approval by the legislative body" Khartoum has already notified the Russian side about this.
        : https://news.rambler.ru/army/46320469/?utm_content=news_media&utm_medium=read_more&utm_source=copylink
        Using the example of Sudan, the Americans are extremely good at demonstrating the effective work of diplomats and military advisers, practically in front of our very eyes, forming levers of economic and political influence in a country that until recently was formally considered hostile.

        The work has borne fruit. All this is sad. hi
      3. akarfoxhound
        akarfoxhound April 29 2021 23: 11
        0
        "Sudan has announced the suspension of the agreement with Russia on the creation of a naval base." business in Soviet times! ”) and general despondency. Literally an hour later, a refutation came from the Russian embassy in Sudan, and indeed It turned out that in the initial message of Al-Arabiya it was said that the agreement should be approved by the country's parliament - it is quite logical, since it will come into effect only after ratification by both parties.
        https://iz.ru/1158694/aleksei-kupriianov/vstali-krepko-informatciia-ob-ukhode-rossii-iz-sudana-okazalas-lozhnoi
        The author is the head of the South Asia and Indian Ocean region group of the Center for Asia-Pacific Studies, IMEMO RAN
        "Yaroslavna's Cry" - seems premature wink
        1. Anzhey V.
          April 30 2021 02: 15
          +1
          Fortunately, the news was not really confirmed. Although, to be honest, the Foreign Ministry's wording is still embarrassing - earlier they said that the agreement had already been signed and entered into force, even materials were brought to Port Sudan, as far as I know, but now it turned out that it should be approved by the Sudanese parliament ...

          Heavy politics, of course.
    3. Vladislav Trofimov
      Vladislav Trofimov 1 May 2021 17: 02
      0
      Sudan refused to build a naval base for Russia, breaking an earlier agreement.

      Despite the fact that the Russian side has already begun construction of a Russian naval base on the territory of Sudan, it became known that the authorities of this country tore up the previously concluded agreement, refusing to grant Russia the right to build a military facility near Port Sudan. According to a number of data, the refusal is associated with new agreements on military-technical cooperation between Sudan and the United States.
      More details at: https://avia.pro/news/sudan-zapretil-rossii-stroit-bazu-vmf-na-territorii-strany-razorvav-soglashenie-o?page=27
  2. knn54
    knn54 April 28 2021 15: 19
    +6
    It is hard to fight with "typography", but it is necessary.
    And let's be fair, puncture of Russian diplomats and special services.
    1. carstorm 11
      carstorm 11 April 28 2021 15: 27
      -2
      Puncture? What could have been done?) This has been happening for many years. The states have been acting against us since the days of the Union. Well, you can, of course, fill up with free money as a Union. This is only a temporary solution.
      1. Ingvar 72
        Ingvar 72 April 28 2021 15: 59
        +9
        Quote: carstorm 11
        Puncture? What could have been done?

        Cuba has no debt to forgive, but to make a full-scale naval base under the pendos noses.
        The same can be said about Cam Ranh in Vietnam.
        1. carstorm 11
          carstorm 11 April 28 2021 16: 03
          +3
          Yeah. They would have abandoned everything and allowed a full-fledged naval base to be built. In the Soviet Union, at one time, it was not built either, but why could we? I agree with Aomrani. Bad decision.
          1. Ingvar 72
            Ingvar 72 April 28 2021 16: 04
            0
            What's the problem? Do we need their permission? They ask us not painfully.
            1. carstorm 11
              carstorm 11 April 28 2021 16: 17
              -2
              Actually it is necessary. I'm talking about Cuba.
              1. Ingvar 72
                Ingvar 72 April 28 2021 16: 25
                0
                I do not know, enlighten?
        2. Doccor18
          Doccor18 April 28 2021 17: 15
          +2
          Quote: Ingvar 72
          Cuba has no debt to forgive, but to make a full-scale naval base under the pendos noses.
          The same can be said about Cam Ranh in Vietnam.

          To build or modernize a naval base on the island of freedom and in Vietnam is of course realistic, but it is very expensive financially and not soon in terms of time, and most importantly, such bases need ships, many warships of the ocean zone, which in the domestic fleet "a cat cried" ... So that it is too early for us to build naval bases on other continents. But to have a PMTO network in friendly countries, with which it is necessary to strengthen economic ties, would be very useful.
          1. Ingvar 72
            Ingvar 72 April 28 2021 17: 37
            -1
            Quote: Doccor18
            for such bases ships are needed, many warships of the ocean zone,

            Nuclear submarine technical support base. request
            We surfaced, rested, filled up / refueled, and again to the shores of our partners, fortunately not far. laughing
            1. Doccor18
              Doccor18 April 28 2021 17: 41
              +3
              This is the same PMTO.

              The naval base is a serious strategic object.
              1. Ingvar 72
                Ingvar 72 April 28 2021 18: 17
                +1
                Something useful could be built on a long-term lease, anyway better than just writing off debts.
        3. Mikhail Ya2
          Mikhail Ya2 April 30 2021 17: 35
          0
          They like to say here that Poles, Romanians and other brothers, having allowed NATO to use their territory for bases, automatically become targets in case of war. Do you think the Cubans and Vietnamese do not understand this? Why do they need this happiness? Especially Vietnam, which has excellent cooperation with the United States.
      2. Ross xnumx
        Ross xnumx April 28 2021 17: 09
        +8
        Quote: carstorm 11
        What could have been done?

        We have eight countries that have officially recognized Crimea as Russian - and we need to cooperate with them in the first place. We have Syria and it is not recommended to share it with either the United States or Turkey, but on the contrary, we need to show who owns this “vegetable garden”.
        And ideally, you need to have your own developed industry that is able to meet the needs of the economy, and not creep in front of foreign sponsors, giving away blocks of shares and seats on the board of directors in state-owned companies for a song.
        1. Doccor18
          Doccor18 April 28 2021 17: 29
          +2
          Quote: ROSS 42
          We have eight countries that have officially recognized Crimea as Russian - and we need to cooperate with them in the first place. We have Syria and it is not recommended to share it with either the United States or Turkey, but on the contrary, we need to show who owns this “vegetable garden”.
          And ideally, you need to have your own developed industry that is able to meet the needs of the economy, and not creep in front of foreign sponsors, giving away blocks of shares and seats on the board of directors in state-owned companies for a song.

          You wrote well. I agree with every proposal.
          In my opinion, it is necessary to enter Africa (and not only in it) seriously and for a long time. Not to use momentary benefits, but to establish close military-economic cooperation, to advance on all fronts at once, including developing bilateral cultural cooperation.
          1. Anzhey V.
            April 28 2021 18: 20
            +1
            In my opinion, it is necessary to enter Africa (and not only in it) seriously and for a long time. Not to use momentary benefits, but to establish close military-economic cooperation, to advance on all fronts at once, including developing bilateral cultural cooperation


            Unfortunately, we were late with Africa. There is now the theater of war of the new Cold War, just like the Middle East in its time.

            If it does work out with Sudan, you need to cling to it and develop your capabilities. If not, it's better not to go there at all.
            1. kapitan92
              kapitan92 April 28 2021 22: 16
              +1
              Quote: Anjay V.
              If it does work out with Sudan, you need to cling to it and develop your capabilities. If not, it's better not to go there at all.

              How do you imagine the development of our capabilities? Tomorrow in Sudan, "another tribe" will make a "banana revolution" and we will be faced with the facts of curtailing our PMTO.
              1. Anzhey V.
                April 29 2021 19: 31
                +2
                How do you imagine the development of our capabilities?


                Just like the Americans do - and they are friends with everyone at once.

                With the government, with the government's successors, with those who are dissatisfied with the government, and so on.

                As a result, they are like casinos - they always win.

                You cannot get hung up on working with certain power groups, you need to constantly monitor trends. This is a very complex analytical, political and sociological activity - but it justifies itself better than a large, but thoughtless investment.

                Again, the development of ties is impossible without business - and without business there is no economy. No economy = no politics. Take a look at the Americans in Sudan - they first set the stage for big business, and then they decided to "dance the girl" for military cooperation.

                This is how it looks.
          2. vadim dok
            vadim dok April 29 2021 17: 14
            +1
            It is necessary to create ECONOMIC cooperation, and only then to drive weapons!
            1. Doccor18
              Doccor18 April 29 2021 17: 22
              0
              Quote: vadim dok
              It is necessary to create ECONOMIC cooperation
              and very close and versatile.
      3. aleksejkabanets
        aleksejkabanets April 28 2021 17: 29
        +12
        Quote: carstorm 11
        The states have been acting against us since the days of the Union.

        We spoil ourselves much more successfully than the states. Look at the "successes" of foreign policy over the past 30 years, but you can't write about domestic policy without swearing at all.
        1. Ingvar 72
          Ingvar 72 April 28 2021 17: 39
          +3
          Quote: aleksejkabanets
          you can't write without a mat at all.

          That's right! good It is necessary to hang up for this policy, but our companies give bonuses for losses. am
          1. aleksejkabanets
            aleksejkabanets April 28 2021 17: 42
            +4
            hi
            Quote: Ingvar 72
            That's for sure! good It is necessary to hang up for this policy, but our companies give bonuses for losses.

            Well, why hang it up right away? You have to judge first. As Vlasov was tried, so his followers should be tried.
            1. Ingvar 72
              Ingvar 72 April 28 2021 18: 19
              +1
              Of course, by court order, otherwise, according to our laws, an article for calling for the murder of representatives of the authorities will be soldered in an instant! bully
  3. OgnennyiKotik
    OgnennyiKotik April 28 2021 15: 20
    +6
    From the interesting:

    In December 2017, Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan paid a visit to Sudan. This was the first visit of the head of Turkey to Sudan since the independence of Sudan. During the visit, several important agreements were concluded, among which was an agreement on transfer of Suakin Island to Turkey for 99 years... During Ottoman rule, the island was an important port on the shores of the Red Sea, but in the XNUMXth century, after the construction of the city of Port Sudan, Suakin fell into decay. Turkey plans to transform the island into a tourist center and restore historical monuments. The transfer of the island to lease was received with concern by Egypt and Saudi Arabia, but the Turkish side stated that nothing threatens the security of the Arab countries, since Turkey is not going to deploy its troops on the island. After the military coup in Sudan and the ouster of President Omar al-Bashir, the Turkish Foreign Ministry said that the agreement on the lease of Suakin was not canceled




    Turkey is seriously entering Africa. In addition to Libya, there are very close relations with the official government of Somalia, they teach the military, they gathered there to build a cosmodrome, bases in Sudan, recently the defense ministers of the Gambia and Turkey signed an updated Agreement on cooperation in the field of military training.
    1. Anzhey V.
      April 28 2021 15: 37
      +5
      Very exhaustive, really.

      I think that delimiting spheres of influence in Sudan will not be a problem for Washington and Ankara, especially since their interests on the whole do not overlap, and their goals are the same.
      1. OgnennyiKotik
        OgnennyiKotik April 28 2021 15: 47
        +1
        Quote: Anjay V.
        Washington and Ankara will not be a problem delimiting spheres of influence in Sudan

        Sure. The United States can pay extra to the Turks to perform certain tasks, for example, maintaining order, counter-terrorist operations, security. The Turks are adept at this, they work very well with the local population, militants, armed groups and local governments (which is the same thing), they understand when it is necessary to be hard, when soft. The United States lacks flexibility, it is difficult for them in a delicate game, so they leave it at the mercy of their allies.
        1. Anzhey V.
          April 28 2021 15: 52
          +2
          It is also noteworthy that Turkey has begun to closely contact Ethiopia.

          In general, the Americans and Turks are squeezing the PRC and the weak remnants of the Russian Federation's influence out of North Africa.
          1. OgnennyiKotik
            OgnennyiKotik April 28 2021 16: 02
            +1
            Yes, a global confrontation between the United States and China has begun. The Americans are spinning a flywheel that has rusted after the end of the Cold War.
            The United States relies on 2 main European allies: France and the British-Turks. Supporting and pushing them against each other, but always against China. Somewhere 3-4 years ago, the foreign policy activity of these countries increased sharply.
  4. Woodman
    Woodman April 28 2021 15: 21
    -5
    Unfortunately for Russia, it just so happens that the United States does not want to see a Russian base in the Red Sea.

    "Katz offers to surrender !!!"? And in Crimea, the states do not want to see Russia either, but what's the point?
    Please pay attention to the dates - in November 2020, Russia and Sudan sign an agreement, and already in December, the States remove the country from the list of states sponsoring terrorism and begin negotiations on the deployment of their military.
    Such a reaction at least deserves to be called "operational".

    If Russia had done something similar, then phrases like someone “leaked” something and “changed their shoes in the air” would have been used instead of “prompt reaction”.
    Fourth, there is an important economic factor - the United States can become the exclusive supplier of a number of products vital for Sudan: weapons, medical and information technology, construction equipment, etc.
    Russia can offer all the same.
    1. Anzhey V.
      April 28 2021 15: 39
      +4
      Russia can offer


      Russia, however, offered nothing to Sudan at all, other than limited supplies of anti-aircraft missile systems ... to protect our PMTO.
      1. Woodman
        Woodman April 28 2021 15: 43
        -8
        Quote: Anjay V.
        Russia, however, offered nothing to Sudan at all, except

        Not all at once) If there is a base, there will be further contacts. And to promise mountains of gold, but then ... Russia does not use this method in foreign policy.
        1. Anzhey V.
          April 28 2021 15: 48
          +5
          Russia does not use this method in foreign policy


          This, frankly, is rather our disadvantage than a virtue. The zone of influence does not expand by itself - it grows only when the state is active.

          Look at the results again: the whole process with our base has stalled, and the Prime Minister of Sudan thanks the Americans.

          And, by the way, they did not offend Khartoum with the “golden mountains” either.
          1. Woodman
            Woodman April 28 2021 15: 54
            0
            Quote: Anjay V.
            This, frankly, is rather our disadvantage than a virtue.

            Here, the lack of finance, coupled with the sad experience of the Union, rather plays a role ...
            Quote: Anjay V.
            The zone of influence does not expand by itself

            Money is the easiest and fastest way to expand your influence. But also the most unreliable. And in conditions of a lack of this same money, one has to act by other, less effective methods. Thus, the set goals are not always achieved, but the losses are much less in case of failure. Moreover, purely in terms of finance, it makes no sense for us to compete with the states - they will always be able to offer more.
            1. Anzhey V.
              April 28 2021 16: 02
              +4
              Here, the lack of finance, coupled with the sad experience of the Union, rather plays a role ...


              Yes, you do not need to do to us the way they did in the Union. The Americans, in essence, spent minimal resources on Sudan - they simply prepared the ground for business to enter there, and agreed on the exchange of information through the armed forces.

              The costs are minimal, the effect is huge.

              Further, in order to attract investment, the Sudanese will inevitably ask the United States for administrative support. These include economic consultations, analyst services, training of officials, and so on.

              Again, the costs will be mostly on their own civil servants.

              These are all very subtle mechanisms of work, the point here is by no means trivial to flood the country with money.

              How much money did we give Ukraine and where is it now? Here I am about the same.
              1. Woodman
                Woodman April 28 2021 16: 08
                -1
                Quote: Anjay V.
                How much money did we give Ukraine and where is it now?

                That is why it is not necessary to invest in Sudan ahead of time ahead of time. If you only buy individual characters, but:
                Quote: Lesovik
                in finances, it makes no sense for us to compete with the states - they can always offer more.
                1. Anzhey V.
                  April 28 2021 16: 11
                  +3
                  ... If you only buy individual characters, but:


                  Here you, comrade Lesovik, put forward theses, but do not notice how they contradict each other))

                  Both the USSR and we have always worked by “buying characters”.

                  Americans do something completely different, and that's why they work so effectively.
                  1. Woodman
                    Woodman April 28 2021 16: 18
                    -2
                    Quote: Anjay V.
                    Both the USSR and we have always worked by “buying characters”.

                    In addition to buying characters, the Union and the Federation almost immediately began pouring money into the economies of the states whose characters they were trying to buy. And they didn’t get anything significant in return. And soon, either the characters changed owners, or the characters themselves changed. And not us.
                    Quote: Anjay V.
                    put forward theses, but do not notice how they contradict each other))

                    This is solely due to the fact that I always get a little chaotic to express my thoughts in a printed style)
                    1. Anzhey V.
                      April 28 2021 16: 31
                      0
                      This is solely due to the fact that I always get a little chaotic to express my thoughts in a printed style)


                      Well, it's okay if so)

                      The Union and the Federation almost immediately began pouring money into the economies of the states whose characters they were trying to buy


                      But, in fact, I'm talking about that - after all, the thing is money, you just can't waste it. Again, the Americans gave Sudan credit and helped with a loan from the IMF.

                      It seems like you helped with money in a difficult one, but now you have to return it. How to return? And the same Americans tell you: let us work together and launch our business for you. You will pay off with me, and you will earn yourself.

                      At the same time, they huddle in general all the highest political and military circles of the country. The Sudanese military themselves are ready to accept American help with joy - and they always give generously, and when you have an American military base in your country, it becomes easier and safer to live.

                      This is exactly what work, very high quality diplomatic work.
              2. OgnennyiKotik
                OgnennyiKotik April 28 2021 16: 10
                +2
                Quote: Anjay V.
                just set the stage for business to enter

                This is the key point. They have developed small, medium and large businesses. The United States and the Turks just need to provide security and minimum conditions so that the passionaries from their trade will pour themselves into the empty market. Like champagne from an open bottle.
                Our business was strangled. Nobody wants anything. If someone has borrowed something, you need to sit quietly and not reflect.
                1. Anzhey V.
                  April 28 2021 16: 20
                  +4
                  I fully support.

                  Turks, by the way, work in a similar way - business goes along with soldiers and humanitarian aid.

                  Interestingly, against the backdrop of the fall of the Turkish economy in 2020, Turkey simultaneously recorded a boom in private entrepreneurship.

                  That is, despite the difficult conditions, small business has become even more active.
                2. Anzhey V.
                  April 28 2021 16: 24
                  0
                  In addition, according to the Minister of Commerce Rukhsar Pekcan, Turkey ended 2020 with record indicators in the field of exports. “At the end of the year, the volume of Turkish exports reached $ 169,5 billion, which is the undoubted success of domestic exporters and the entire country during the pandemic. According to Pekcan, in 2020, a record was broken in the export of Turkish products in 29 sectors of the economy, and the list of exporters was replenished with 18 123 companies. ... Turkey in 2020 broke the record for the volume of exports to 44 countries of the world. The top three include the United States, Israel and South Korea. The export to import ratio in 2020 was 77,3 percent. The Minister further noted that last year, Turkey's imports grew by 4,3 percent in general - up to $ 219,4 billion. At the same time, the volume of imports, excluding the volume of gold sales, in 2020, on the contrary, decreased by 2,4 percent and amounted to $ 194,2 billion.
                3. aleksejkabanets
                  aleksejkabanets April 28 2021 17: 50
                  -1
                  Quote: OgnennyiKotik
                  you need to sit quietly and not light up.

                  Soon this will not work any more, all transfers to the cards are controlled by the tax authorities. Yes, for freelancing, there will soon be questions to ask ordinary people.
        2. aleksejkabanets
          aleksejkabanets April 28 2021 17: 45
          0
          Quote: Lesovik
          Russia does not use this method in foreign policy.

          I'm afraid that lately the RF has no foreign policy at all.
    2. Xenofont
      Xenofont April 28 2021 16: 21
      -6
      The author in all his materials leads to the idea of ​​how empty-headed and weak Russia is and where to compete with Sherkhan. Hidden propaganda is evident.
      1. Anzhey V.
        April 28 2021 16: 49
        +2
        Congratulations, comrade, you heroically uncovered yet another conspiracy of agents of Western influence, supported by the Zionists and sponsored by big capital!

        Take a haloperidol tablet as a reward.
        1. Xenofont
          Xenofont April 28 2021 16: 51
          -6
          What, offended, citizen idiot?
          1. Anzhey V.
            April 28 2021 16: 53
            +1
            No, you are very funny, like everyone else who is trying to convict me of something)

            It’s even strange why people are so upset, because I’m just listing the facts, and nothing more.
            1. Xenofont
              Xenofont April 28 2021 16: 55
              -5
              You're not even funny. Any facts can be presented in different ways and your manner is quite distinct.
              1. Anzhey V.
                April 28 2021 16: 57
                +2
                Well, as they say, don't like it - don't read it)
                Everything is very simple)

                Here and without you there are enough people who are interested in what I am writing about, so I will not be offended.
                1. Xenofont
                  Xenofont April 28 2021 16: 59
                  -2
                  Note: I don't like it after reading it, but you see a close acquaintance with haloperidol if you prescribe it to me. Be careful with the words, you can burn out. I wish you good health.
                  1. Anzhey V.
                    April 28 2021 17: 05
                    -1
                    you have a close acquaintance with haloperidol, if you prescribe it to me


                    Alas, you got past here too - it is simply most often used as a synonym for the phrase "strong sedatives", and almost everyone has heard this name at least once.

                    And I "prescribe" it to you only because you are clearly too much worried and are looking everywhere for enemies who are not here)

                    But, however, all the best to you - I hope that today you will still come across something that will be more pleasant for you to read than my terrible "propaganda" articles)
                    1. Xenofont
                      Xenofont April 28 2021 17: 14
                      -2
                      Did it ever occur to you that the decision made at the level of the President was the result of a scrupulous assessment by analysts of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs and the Ministry of Defense of all threats to this facility not only from the Amerzians, but also from China and other smaller players in this region and beyond? The existence of military installations of rival powers on the same territory is quite a reality and the Sudanese may well prefer to themselves.
                      1. Anzhey V.
                        April 28 2021 17: 20
                        0
                        Forgive me, but why are you telling me this as if I say that our base will not be iron at all?

                        In the article, I quite specifically indicated that it is too early to judge on this score, but you also need to keep this option in your head.

                        Sudanese may well prefer to themselves.t milking several investors


                        It is quite possible that yes, especially if our people hurry up. So far, unfortunately, nothing of the kind has been observed.

                        the result of a scrupulous assessment by analysts of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs and the Ministry of Defense of all threats to this facility not only from the Amerzians, but also from China and other smaller players in this region and beyond?


                        There are also big doubts about the quality of the analysts' work. The practice of recent years shows that they very often make mistakes or take too long to react to new trends.

                        This is very unpleasant, because our real successes are being overshadowed by diplomatic and humanitarian failures.
                      2. Xenofont
                        Xenofont April 28 2021 17: 25
                        -2
                        What failures are we talking about? If the West saw a threat in us and resolutely took up our destruction, then the range of possibilities is very limited and it is necessary to act not with the aim of winning, but to minimize losses and gain time.
                      3. Anzhey V.
                        April 28 2021 17: 33
                        0
                        the range of possibilities is very limited and you have to act not in order to win, but to minimize losses and gain time


                        Okay, I understand you.

                        Let's think this way - what constrained our initial opportunities in Sudan, where we had the advantage and entered before the Americans?

                        Are we worse than the USA? Not. On the whole, we could offer the Sudan just as much. And to us have something to offer - and this could pay for itself... Roughly speaking, instead of one military facility, we could get a satellite, which at that time was of no particular interest to anyone.

                        But it turns out that for some reason we cannot organize our capabilities (which we have) and achieve such a goal.

                        This is the only thing that I am trying to explain and the very thing for which you, without understanding, run to brand me as an "enemy".
                      4. Xenofont
                        Xenofont April 28 2021 17: 37
                        -3
                        It makes sense to doubt the correctness of certain decisions at the state level in the case of proximity to "decision-making centers" or already after the fact. This is in my logic.
                      5. Anzhey V.
                        April 28 2021 17: 48
                        -2
                        And I, it seems, did not express doubts about anything - I repeat, I said that it is too early to judge)
                      6. Anzhey V.
                        April 28 2021 21: 12
                        -2
                        Agreement on the establishment of a Russian naval base in Sudan suspended - al-Arabiya TV


                        Here, Comrade Xenophon, we have arrived. The news has just appeared. Now, with your permission, we can begin to doubt the correctness of certain decisions ...
                      7. Xenofont
                        Xenofont April 28 2021 22: 35
                        -2
                        Maybe you have arrived somewhere, but only one thing is clear to me: the process is underway and its result is not predictable. It is not worth rejoicing ahead of time.
                      8. Xenofont
                        Xenofont April 29 2021 07: 28
                        -2
                        Messages about the suspension of the agreement on the creation of a Russian naval base on the Red Sea in Sudan do not correspond to reality, it was reported on its Instagram page.
                        Russian embassy in Khartoum.
                        You screwed up, dear!
  5. A. Privalov
    A. Privalov April 28 2021 18: 19
    0
    Quote: Anjay V.
    It's even strange why people are so upset, because I'm just listing the facts, and no more

    This is the special charm of VOs, when they massively minus you, but they do not object with a single word, because there is nothing to cover, because they absolutely clearly realize that you are right. hi
    1. Anzhey V.
      April 28 2021 18: 22
      +1
      This is the special charm of VO, when they massively minus you, but they do not object with a single word.


      I have already noticed this - they throw minuses here much more willingly than arguments and well-grounded objections)
  • rocket757
    rocket757 April 28 2021 15: 25
    +6
    The material you have read, among other things, can be seen as an example of the impact of "soft power".
    "donkey with a bag of gold" is the softest force that destroys the strongest walls with no less efficiency than siege artillery!
  • antivirus
    antivirus April 28 2021 15: 25
    -5
    if at that point of the MTO it is impossible to eat AB100VI (by 000 it will be obligatory), it is necessary to abandon it, let the Americans flounder in such puddles
    1. Revival
      Revival April 28 2021 16: 58
      +2
      Apparently you are not a patriot at all!

      "if at that point of the MTO it is impossible to eat AB100 000VI (by 2030 it will be obligatory)".

      Here is this miserable trough of AB in 100000 VI, are you adding to Russia and even already only by 2030?

      By 2026 there will definitely be
      AB in 1 000 000 00 VI and, moreover, 3 pieces !!!
      Stop belittling the real achievements of the country!
      1. antivirus
        antivirus April 28 2021 17: 25
        -1
        what if ?
        -... not worth it.
        but ..?
        - try this ...
  • Yuriy71
    Yuriy71 April 28 2021 15: 28
    0
    Apparently, only the Author of this Wonderful Article still does not understand that this is all Fake, at the State level, a cartoon! China and the United States will not let Russia go there! Never! And ours, forces and courage in themselves will not find !!!
    1. antivirus
      antivirus April 28 2021 17: 26
      -1
      courage is not needed - there will be enough water and fuel.

      for how long will the item work?
  • Lech from Android.
    Lech from Android. April 28 2021 15: 30
    +2
    A donkey loaded with gold can sometimes replace the army and the navy. what
  • Professor
    Professor April 28 2021 15: 30
    +4
    First, until 2020, Sudan was a transshipment base for Iran - there was a flow of weapons through the country that Tehran supplied to the terrorist groups Hezbollah (banned in Russia) and Islamic Jihad (banned in Russia).

    Yah? And since when are they suddenly banned in the Russian Federation?
    1. Anzhey V.
      April 28 2021 15: 34
      +4
      Yah? And since when are they suddenly banned in the Russian Federation?


      The editors, it seems, decided to overbid it just in case)
      1. Professor
        Professor April 28 2021 15: 38
        +2
        Quote: Anjay V.
        Yah? And since when are they suddenly banned in the Russian Federation?


        The editors, it seems, decided to overbid it just in case)

        The Zionists have made their way into all the structures of the VO and rule the materials in accordance with the guidelines of the Jewish Agency. wink In fact, Hizbalah is opening an office in Moscow, and Lavrov calls the representatives of the Islamic Jihad "our dear friends."
        1. Anzhey V.
          April 28 2021 15: 49
          +7
          The Zionists have made their way into all the structures of the VO and rule the materials in accordance with the guidelines of the Jewish Agency.


          You quieter, comrade Professor, otherwise the Weasel will come running now and start telling again that I am writing propaganda at the request of the Israelis))
          1. Professor
            Professor April 28 2021 16: 00
            +6
            Quote: Anjay V.
            The Zionists have made their way into all the structures of the VO and rule the materials in accordance with the guidelines of the Jewish Agency.


            You quieter, comrade Professor, otherwise the Weasel will come running now and start telling again that I am writing propaganda at the request of the Israelis))

            Meehan would lie? He is crystal-clear and monstrously smart. wassat
            1. Anzhey V.
              April 28 2021 16: 18
              +5
              Meehan would lie? He is crystal-clear and monstrously smart.


              He is so inhumanly clever that I'm afraid of him.
              1. LiSiCyn
                LiSiCyn April 28 2021 17: 04
                +2
                Quote: Anjay V.
                He is so inhumanly clever that I'm afraid of him.

                laughing good This is a test.!
        2. LiSiCyn
          LiSiCyn April 28 2021 15: 58
          +6
          Quote: Professor
          The Zionists have made their way into all the structures of the VO and rule the materials in accordance with the guidelines of the Jewish Agency.

          Finally, you confessed, Professor ... laughing
          I have always had suspicions. what And now it all came together. belay
          Nicky, appearances, passwords do not want to merge? repeat
          1. Dym71
            Dym71 April 28 2021 16: 28
            +4
            Quote: LiSiCyn
            Nicky, appearances, passwords do not want to merge?

            Late, there is not a single moderator from the Promised One on VO, the conspiracy is revealed, the hydra is beheaded, and it was so noisy and funny ... crying
            1. LiSiCyn
              LiSiCyn April 28 2021 17: 03
              +1
              Quote: Dym71
              Late, there is no night on VO, not a single moderator with the Promised One,

              But the Professor thinks differently ... wink
              Quote: Dym71
              conspiracy uncovered, hydra beheaded,

              This, when was it? Long??? what
              Quote: Dym71
              and it was so noisy and funny ...

              I can't sleep now ...
              "Sister name, name? !!!" laughing
        3. A. Privalov
          A. Privalov April 28 2021 17: 25
          +1
          Quote: Professor
          In reality, Hizbal Al-Aya opens an office in Moscow, and Lavrov calls the representatives of the Islamic Jihad "our dear friends."

          Absolutely.
          Hezbollah and Islamic Jihad are welcomed in Moscow.

          1. Professor
            Professor April 28 2021 19: 27
            0
            Quote: A. Privalov
            Hezbollah and Islamic Jihad are welcomed in Moscow.

            Patamushta they are the right terrorists.
            1. Anzhey V.
              April 28 2021 20: 38
              +1
              Patamushta they are the right terrorists.


              Not terrorists, but militarized Lebanese Shiite organization and political partyadvocating the creation of an Islamic state in Lebanon modeled on Iran! laughing

              Doublethink is our everything))
              1. Vitaly gusin
                Vitaly gusin April 30 2021 21: 53
                +1
                Quote: Anjay V.
                Doublethink is our everything))

                Desire to sit 1,2,3, .... chairs. As they say, the result is on the face.
  • Nazar
    Nazar April 28 2021 15: 32
    +8
    Whoever "dines" the girl will "dance" her.
    The states can give the locals everything - money, technology, investment in the economy, and in the event of another coup, they will provide an alternate airfield somewhere in Florida. And what can the Russian Federation give - promise a house in Rostov?
    1. Lech from Android.
      Lech from Android. April 28 2021 15: 38
      -5
      Yah... what they gave a lot to the Iraqi generals who betrayed Hussein or to the Afghan government based on American bayonets.
      Russia can give what it gives to Belarus, Uzbekistan, Tajikistan, Syria, finally.
      1. Anzhey V.
        April 28 2021 15: 43
        +2
        they gave a lot to the Iraqi generals who betrayed Hussein


        Where is the droushka?

        Most of the Iraqi genius and the officer corps, by the way, quite served themselves after 2003 in the new army.

        And it is somehow incorrect to compare the country with which the United States was initially at war, and the country to which they enter on the terms of cooperation.

        American allies have historically gone from poor garbage dumps to regularly plus or minus prosperous countries, and Sudan knows this very well too.
        1. Lech from Android.
          Lech from Android. April 28 2021 16: 04
          -2
          We'll wait and see, I think the United States will mate and abandon Sudan.
          They are only interested in it as an object that should not go to China or Russia. As for the Iraqi generals, it would be nice to know about their participation in the creation of ISIS, I think it could not have done without the CIA.
          1. Anzhey V.
            April 28 2021 16: 06
            +1
            They are only interested in it as an object that should not go to China or Russia.


            Here you are fundamentally mistaken. They need a large base of operations for AFRICOM, and Sudan is perfect for that purpose.

            He is also quite poor and it is very easy to gain influence in him.
            1. Lech from Android.
              Lech from Android. April 28 2021 16: 16
              -3
              Something aptly coincided the interest of the Americans with the agreement of the Sudan with Russia ... this is no coincidence, there is no place for accidents in politics.
              1. Anzhey V.
                April 28 2021 16: 17
                +2
                Something successfully coincided the interest of the Americans with the agreement of the Sudan with Russia


                It rather quickened the process. They got the opportunity to solve a bunch of problems in one fell swoop and stay in the black.
                1. Lech from Android.
                  Lech from Android. April 28 2021 16: 28
                  -2
                  An African country is still not Europe; it will not be possible to solve all the problems in one fell swoop.
                  As always, we will have to reckon with the instability of power in the country, corruption, low living standards of the population and many other things that the Americans will not solve, and without this they will not stay in the country for a long time.
                  Moreover, if you really want to, you can create problems for the Americans in Sudan by sponsoring anti-American forces.
                  1. Anzhey V.
                    April 28 2021 16: 39
                    0
                    An African country is still not Europe, it will not be possible to solve all the problems in one fell swoop


                    Well, I'm a little about other "problems" - about the political and military presence.

                    As always, we will have to reckon with the instability of power in the country, corruption, low living standards of the population and many other things that Americans will not solve, and without this they will not stay in the country for a long time.


                    Alexey, what the Americans are always attractive to new satellites is precisely because they are putting things in order even on the territory of the occupied countries and investing money.

                    The Sudanese are already practically squealing with delight in anticipation of Uncle Sam, because for them even a fleeting American attention is a rain of abundance. It is clear that things will not be easy there, but now Sudan has a liberal civilian government aimed at reforms, and for them American economic and administrative support is incredibly important.

                    create problems for Americans in Sudan by sponsoring anti-American forces


                    With this, alas, everything is not as simple as it seems. And in AFRICOM not fools work, they ate a dog in the fight against such groups - for several decades they destroy, create, train, destroy again and so on.
        2. Semak
          Semak April 28 2021 16: 08
          -8
          American allies have historically gone from poor garbage dumps to regularly plus or minus prosperous countries, and Sudan knows this very well too.

          what are these allies, for example?
          1. Anzhey V.
            April 28 2021 16: 16
            +6
            South Korea, Japan, Thailand, Turkey, Israel, Singapore, China (unexpectedly, an American ally throughout the Cold War!).
            1. Semak
              Semak April 28 2021 16: 51
              -5
              Well, in principle, the whole spectrum of the so-called allies of the United States is understandable, and it is not for nothing that Iran did not get into it, and yet how they were friends, how they were friends.
          2. Nazar
            Nazar April 28 2021 16: 18
            +3
            Semak - West Germany, Japan, completely destroyed during WWII, for example - to continue?
    2. ANB
      ANB April 28 2021 19: 57
      +1
      ... an alternate airfield somewhere in Florida. And what can the Russian Federation give - promise a house in Rostov?

      Well, it depends on which house. Florida is restless these days. :)
  • Bez 310
    Bez 310 April 28 2021 16: 56
    +6
    Very interesting article.
    Using the example of the United States, it is shown how to work to promote their interests - quickly, assertively, and effectively. To our great regret, this does not work out for us, we not only do not have sufficient financial resources, but our diplomats-leaders also work according to old patterns, and can promptly carry out only reciprocal expulsions of diplomats. In general, we were bypassed again ... "This is some kind of shame!"
  • parusnik
    parusnik April 28 2021 17: 03
    -1
    "Girls" (countries) with lower economies have always gravitated towards the rich. smile
  • Aleksandr97
    Aleksandr97 April 28 2021 17: 11
    -4
    If those participating in the negotiations from the United States do not have personal contracts in any direction, this project will sooner or later die out. The Anglo-Saxons always and everywhere start with bribery of decision-makers, rather than, if anything, can be blackmailed. From a strategic perspective, the Big Game is not over for us either! At least China will not leave Sudan for sure and they know how to play long!

    Today, China is the largest investor in Sudan, as well as on the continent as a whole. China's relationship with Sudan is exceptional due to the lack of competition from the United States. Apart from Coca-Cola, few American products are readily available to Sudanese consumers.
    Sudan has been under US sanctions since 1995 due to the country's past ties to terrorists such as Osama bin Laden. In the same year, President Omar al-Bashir signed the first oil contract with China.
    “It's an amazing coincidence that the US imposed sanctions around the same time that China was investing in our oil industry,” a Sudanese government official said sarcastically. China now controls 75% of the Sudanese oil industry.
    1. Anzhey V.
      April 28 2021 17: 22
      0
      China now controls 75% of the Sudanese oil industry.


      Alexander, after the civil war all oil remained in South Sudan, it is now a separate country in Africa)
  • A. Privalov
    A. Privalov April 28 2021 17: 14
    +1
    Brilliant plans that seem to be on the brink of a foul.

    Apparently, the author wanted to say "on the verge of collapse"?
    In Sudan today, a grandiose international project is being launched to rebuild an entire country after many years of civil wars, devastation and begging.
    In 1980, 20 million people lived there, today it is already 45. They need to be fed with something. Agriculture is in decline. In January of this year, Israel normalized relations with Sudan. The issues of bilateral cooperation in the spheres of health care, air traffic, water resources management, construction of solar power plants, raising agriculture to a modern level are at the top of the list of priorities. The Russian MTO point doesn't bother anyone there today. Today money and specialists are required there. There will be no shortage of either. It turned out that the Sudanese have a very good motivation to get out of poverty.
    It would be good to start a similar process in Syria, but as long as Iran and Hezbollah are sitting there, the poor Syrians have no chance of anything. The bandyukas do not know how to manage the "national economy." Nasrallah has already driven Lebanon to complete amazement and will surely deal with Syria. hi
    1. Anzhey V.
      April 28 2021 17: 24
      +2
      Apparently, the author wanted to say "on the verge of collapse"?


      God bless you, comrade Privalov, here and so they want to dismember me for an article, as an agent of enemy influence.
      1. A. Privalov
        A. Privalov April 28 2021 17: 40
        0
        Quote: Anjay V.
        God bless you, comrade Privalov, here and so they want to dismember me for an article, as an agent of enemy influence.

        Do not worry. It won't go further than traditional curses with virtual waves of fists and rituals to the dull tambourine of a ferret and similar numbered bots. You see, no one even objects to you on the merits of the issue. And on VO - the agent is more - the agent no longer plays a special role. hi
        1. Anzhey V.
          April 28 2021 17: 54
          0
          And on VO - the agent is more - the agent no longer plays a special role.


          It's good that the comrades from the "Mossad" do not mind laughing

          Thank you very much for the information on cooperation between Israel and Sudan, I will drag myself away - very interesting)
      2. LiSiCyn
        LiSiCyn April 28 2021 17: 45
        +1
        Quote: Anjay V.
        here and so they want to dismember me for the article, as an agent of enemy influence.

        What can you do, this is the lot of the author ... laughing
        But seriously, the article is good! I read a lot at "Rybar", but you added some "nuances". good
        And about "what will grow out of this" ... Let's see, the Sudanese are not breaking the treaty yet, and the influence of Iran should not be discarded. Well, China. Too often, lately, striped ones cross the road to China.
        1. Anzhey V.
          April 28 2021 18: 00
          -2
          Thank you, Li Xi Tsin)

          I tried to work directly with the primary sources - AFRICOM, Sudanese and Arabic newspapers.

          Too often, lately, striped ones cross the road to China


          The United States and Turkey are purposefully consolidating themselves in North Africa. The "Arab Spring" has worked for itself, Washington swept away all the awkward layouts in the north of the continent and entrenched itself there with its allies.

          Now the "African Spring" has started - the instability belt is shifting closer to Central Africa. The process here is very simple - the revolution provokes a violation of the control and influence of the same China, sweeps away governments, ruins Chinese investments, forces the PRC to provide military assistance.

          And when the turning point comes, the Turks, the French, the British, and the Americans will replace the Chinese.
          1. Artyom Karagodin
            Artyom Karagodin April 28 2021 19: 27
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            Andrey, thank you. As in the case of Turkey, everything is very balanced, based on easily verifiable facts. Without "all-propancies" and "putinslilstvo", but also without shapkozakidatelstvo and "all-victory."
            1. Anzhey V.
              April 28 2021 19: 44
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              Thank you, Artem)

              I am glad that the material was interesting for you)
              1. LiSiCyn
                LiSiCyn April 29 2021 01: 23
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                "How do you like that, Elon Musk" ... laughing
                https://topwar.ru/182418-zhelannyj-sudan-novaja-tochka-protivostojanija-rossii-i-ssha.html - цинк

                The real classic of the Cold War is the intensification of competition in third countries and the struggle to influence them. All this has already happened, is happening now and will continue to happen, not only in Sudan. Especially for those who did not believe that the times of the Cold War are back.
                In Sudan itself, in addition to the project of a promising naval base in Port Sudan, a transshipment base of PMCs has been operating for a long time, which is important for operations in the CAR. and close relationships with the local military remain.
                So the struggle for influence in Sudan, to which China will join, will certainly be hot.
                This is Colonel Kassad belay
                This is admission... wink good
              2. aslanismaili611
                aslanismaili611 April 29 2021 12: 15
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                Quote: Anjay V.
                Thank you, Artem)

                I am glad that the material was interesting for you)

                Anzhey, apparently, not only for Karagodin. I also want to thank you for the interesting article. And the comments show that the article is excellent. It is very different from the single, correct line of the party and government, as they used to say in the old days.
                1. Anzhey V.
                  April 29 2021 19: 32
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                  Thank you, Aslan! Glad to see you among the readers)
  • timokhin-aa
    timokhin-aa April 28 2021 19: 16
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    terrorist groups "Hezbollah" (banned in the Russian Federation)


    Author, have you confused anything?
    1. Anzhey V.
      April 28 2021 19: 43
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      I - no, nothing. This is not my work, but the edition)
      1. timokhin-aa
        timokhin-aa April 28 2021 19: 47
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        Well, you write to the editorial office. And then they are trying to be holier than the Pope.
        1. Artyom Karagodin
          Artyom Karagodin April 28 2021 19: 49
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          I also somehow remembered that, like Hezbollah, they had now removed them from the list of terrorists, but generally missed this moment. But it's nice that the memory works. This means that pills for sclerosis can not be taken out of the chest of drawers. lol
          1. Anzhey V.
            April 28 2021 19: 56
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            I will say more - Mr. Lavrov almost kisses them, and they go to Moscow on official visits)
        2. Anzhey V.
          April 28 2021 19: 50
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          Does it make sense?)

          Usually, after publication, nothing is ruled, and I don’t think it’s just done - then try to prove to the gentlemen of the censors that “Islamic Jihad” is not prohibited in Russia)
        3. Anzhey V.
          April 28 2021 19: 52
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          Recently, VO flew in for mentioning a foreign agent without a signature about it.

          Although this is generally illegal in fact, and even any terrorists we can formally refuse to sign. But...
          1. Artyom Karagodin
            Artyom Karagodin April 28 2021 20: 01
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            Although this is generally illegal in fact, and even any terrorists we can formally refuse to sign. But...

            Better overdoing than underdoing. Apparently, they are guided by this.

            As for Hezbollah, things are not so simple there. On the one hand, the same Hyena and others like him, on the other, sit in the Lebanese parliament, and officially. Politics is politics, there is almost no choice between good and evil. They weigh up which evil is less. Naturally, it is not so difficult to make a mistake.
            1. Anzhey V.
              April 28 2021 20: 12
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              Hezbollah is not so simple there. On the one hand, the same Hyena and others like him, on the other, sit in the Lebanese parliament, and officially


              I think this will change soon, but we, as always, managed to shake hands with the marginal)

              In Lebanon, extremely interesting active political processes are currently underway, including those related to the squeezing of Hezbollah. Everyone is tired of looking around at the madmen, and Lebanon is eating exclusively at the expense of external sponsors, who are increasingly hinting that Hezbollah should be outlawed.

              In general, what our Foreign Ministry is doing is something beyond good and evil.
              1. Artyom Karagodin
                Artyom Karagodin April 28 2021 20: 17
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                For example? More specifically.
                but we, as always, managed to shake hands with the marginal)

                Are you talking about Assad?
                1. Anzhey V.
                  April 28 2021 20: 33
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                  Are you talking about Assad?


                  No, about Hezbollah)

                  And with Comrade Assad, the situation turns into complete madness. The Americans decided that since it didn’t work out, it would work out by rolling, and now they decided to try to make a weapon out of it against ourselves.

                  Now negotiations are underway through Barzani on the return of the provinces beyond the Euphrates - the Americans agree to leave Assad and even recognize the elections as legitimate if he removes our troops from all over Syria, except for military bases. Qatar even thawed part of Assad's money, and the Saudis assured that he would receive investments from them.

                  In short, if the Kurdish autonomy becomes part of Syria, then we can assume that our party is over there.
                  1. Artyom Karagodin
                    Artyom Karagodin April 28 2021 21: 38
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                    Quote: Anjay V.
                    In short, if the Kurdish autonomy becomes part of Syria, then we can assume that our party is over there.

                    Oh, wait in front of the locomotive to run. Diplomacy, politics - everything is so complicated. Assad is also not so stupid, and he saw how friendship with the United States ended for the same Mubarak. How will Washington change their minds again?

                    As for Hezbollah and the marginalized, we are here against the background of the rest - in general, angels. After the photographs of the deceased McCain with Al-Baghdadi, the same. Is he alone with him? Is it just McCain? Is it only in the United States? So I cannot agree on this point either.

                    And in general, as far as I can tell, politics does not tolerate unambiguous conclusions and conclusions such as the quote above. Again and again I remember the words of the wise gypsy Chudra from "Tabor" that he knows more than the sage, because the latter doubts everything. I think you have understood that I am not getting personal and I am not hinting at anyone, but I am talking about approaches to analyzing the situation.
                    1. Anzhey V.
                      April 28 2021 21: 47
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                      Oh, wait in front of the locomotive to run. Diplomacy, politics - everything is so complicated.


                      Yes, they have already come running, Artem)

                      Here you go:

                      Agreement on the establishment of a Russian naval base in Sudan suspended -


                      Politics and diplomacy are extremely definite things ... it's even funny that this news appeared exactly on the evening of the publication of the article)

                      Assad is also not so stupid, and he saw how friendship with the United States was


                      Assad is not stupid, and that is why he will quickly ensure the transit of power to someone else. For Syria, this will be a real chance to stop being an outcast and not turn into a new Lebanon.

                      And believe me, if this happens, then one evening we will read the news that we are leaving Hmeimim and Tartus.
                      1. Artyom Karagodin
                        Artyom Karagodin April 28 2021 22: 02
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                        Perhaps you are right. Since, as an undoubted fact, we should admit that we have a complete absence of a long-term strategy in foreign policy (not only in it, we talked about this), and, accordingly, effective mechanisms of "soft power". Therefore, I will not be at all surprised if the news of the departure from Tartus and Khmeimim appears in our media. However, it is not yet a fact, as the protagonist of "In August 44" said.
                      2. Anzhey V.
                        April 29 2021 19: 38
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                        Good evening, Artem!

                        Fortunately, so far the news has not been confirmed, the Foreign Ministry claims that this is a fake. Although they tactfully mentioned that the agreement has not been ratified by parliament, and ... there is a possibility that it will not. Hopefully it will be okay.

                        Since, as an undoubted fact, we should admit that we have a complete absence of a long-term strategy in foreign policy.


                        Well, as we discussed earlier, there is a complete lack of analytics. I hope we still have leverage on Assad, and this whole thing will not go so easily.
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                    3. Artyom Karagodin
                      Artyom Karagodin April 28 2021 22: 14
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                      Quite possible. We discussed the reason and generally agreed with each other. Lack of an image of the future. Therefore, if the news about the withdrawal from Syria (and our media will surely sing that we are "leaving with our heads held high) will sound, I will not be surprised at all. However, as the protagonist of the film" In August 44 "said," and still not a fact. "

                      Politics and diplomacy are extremely definite things ...
                      I have already quoted Makara Chudra to you. There is nothing to add to the above example. A simple picture of the world - only on the chessboard: on the one hand - white, on the other - black, and all the fields are square. Let's wait and see, Andrey. I am only 34 this year, but I have learned very well the truth that "you never know - where you will find, where you will lose."
  • Liam
    Liam April 28 2021 22: 25
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    Sudan announced that it has suspended the agreement on the creation of a naval base with Russia on the territory of the African republic, TASS reports, citing Al Arabiya TV channel.

    It is specified that the agreement "signed by Moscow with the previous regime" is suspended "until it is approved by the legislative body." Khartoum warned the Russian side about this
  • Knell wardenheart
    Knell wardenheart April 28 2021 23: 24
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    Well, actually the news of the end of the day - the Sudanese have suspended the implementation of the agreement on the creation of a Russian military base. In general, this whole story evokes contradictory feelings - on the one hand, yes, MTO points and even bases are a necessary thing, these are outposts for the fight against piracy and bridgeheads for economic penetration into the region, on the other hand, right next to our borders we now have a frank mess, our attention dispersed and all these distant adventures right now will probably play against us and divert resources.
    That Africa, that most of the Latin American states, this "muddy water" is ideal for the military or orange coups beloved by our "partners", the elites of these states are dishonest and, in general, they are frankly corrupt, so the question of knocking the floor out from under our feet regarding the creation of such bases in these regions, this is a rather shaky question ..
    How would money and time not go into the void, in short ..
    1. parma
      parma April 29 2021 14: 08
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      Quote: Knell Wardenheart
      Well, actually the news of the end of the day - the Sudanese have suspended the implementation of the agreement on the creation of a Russian military base. In general, this whole story evokes contradictory feelings - on the one hand, yes, MTO points and even bases are a necessary thing, these are outposts for the fight against piracy and bridgeheads for economic penetration into the region, on the other hand, right next to our borders we now have a frank mess, our attention dispersed and all these distant adventures right now will probably play against us and divert resources.
      That Africa, that most of the Latin American states, this "muddy water" is ideal for the military or orange coups beloved by our "partners", the elites of these states are dishonest and, in general, they are frankly corrupt, so the question of knocking the floor out from under our feet regarding the creation of such bases in these regions, this is a rather shaky question ..
      How would money and time not go into the void, in short ..

      And in the CIS, politicians and elites are not frankly corrupt? Well, except that in addition to the Baltic states (where the Europeans are watching their subsidies, another question is how good it is) and Georgia (there are Americans and Turks with their investments) ... it would seem - choose the floor from under the partners, but no ... we have how -that's not exactly ...
      1. Knell wardenheart
        Knell wardenheart April 29 2021 14: 42
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        Please look at what the CIS was "at the start", in the first years of its creation, and what it is now. Even if we ignore the CIS - what did the package of "former republics of the USSR" look like at the start, with the exception, of course, of the Baltic states. And how has all this spread today - how many hot spots, how many orange and other revolutions, how many states that have left our zone of influence, lost markets and elites, with whom we have lost the language of mutual understanding?
        This testifies to two things - in general, the failed foreign policy of the near zone of the last 30 years. And about the fact that the elites of neighboring states as a whole are the same "native", although people of the Soviet party spill often stick out in power, they commit exactly the same vicious line with most of the accompanying mistakes as the "quick-shooters" who come to power on the wave of revolutions ... That is, they sabotage our not particularly dense initiatives, flirt with potential opponents and competitors, ineptly play the national card and gorge our loans and preferences like hot cakes - and in case of any refusals, they instantly change their shoes and begin cheese-kefir-gas wars.
        1. parma
          parma April 29 2021 16: 01
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          Quote: Knell Wardenheart
          Please look at what the CIS was "at the start", in the first years of its creation, and what it is now. Even if we ignore the CIS - what did the package of "former republics of the USSR" look like at the start, with the exception, of course, of the Baltic states. And how has all this spread today - how many hot spots, how many orange and other revolutions, how many states that have left our zone of influence, lost markets and elites, with whom we have lost the language of mutual understanding?
          This testifies to two things - in general, the failed foreign policy of the near zone of the last 30 years. And about the fact that the elites of neighboring states as a whole are the same "native", although people of the Soviet party spill often stick out in power, they commit exactly the same vicious line with most of the accompanying mistakes as the "quick-shooters" who come to power on the wave of revolutions ... That is, they sabotage our not particularly dense initiatives, flirt with potential opponents and competitors, ineptly play the national card and gorge our loans and preferences like hot cakes - and in case of any refusals, they instantly change their shoes and begin cheese-kefir-gas wars.

          In addition to the Baltic states and Georgia that I have already named, the fragments of the USSR that were immediately after the collapse, they represent either dictatorships (Belarus, Kazakhstan, Azerbaijan), or countries with a clan struggle at the trough (count all the others) ... both groups in They are corrupt in one form or another (not necessarily purely monetary) ... and they slipped out of our hands only due to our purely unreasonable actions ... we ourselves either put our eggs in one basket or even let everything go by itself, there is no “soft power” , and accordingly the leaders of the CIS countries see us as a cash cow (Belarus, Ukraine, Armenia) or they wanted to spit on us, maybe thanks to the same Neftekamsk gas money they don't need a double cow (Azerbaijan, Kazakhstan) ...
  • andybuts
    andybuts April 29 2021 00: 11
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    Russia has no particular interests in Sudan, why worry ...
    and let the United States fight China
  • bandabas
    bandabas April 29 2021 07: 49
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    We will fight the "crown" in Sudan. By the way, there is complete silence about this infection in Africa.
  • safar gafarov
    safar gafarov April 29 2021 09: 07
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    Russia used to take advantage of anyone who len.Vot and Nigeria from Sudan: "give me money not to invite Russian they will show you." Immediately rolled amerztsy and just promise to fill up the greens lishby not dopuschali russkih.Kto here comes a cunning laugh More on Nigeria? .And they look like they are spinning
  • iouris
    iouris April 29 2021 09: 11
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    Quote: "Unfortunately for Russia, it just so happens that the US does not want to see a Russian base in the Red Sea." End of quote.
    There are no words!
  • TatarinSSSR
    TatarinSSSR April 29 2021 09: 26
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    An example that the US opposition to Russia should be taken very seriously, because it is powerful and real. Having embarked on the path of sovereignty, Russia must be prepared for refusal to cooperate with it in most countries of the world. The United States is everywhere using all its levers of pressure to deprive Russia of access points to the regions of the world.
  • Alexander Koshkin
    Alexander Koshkin April 29 2021 11: 32
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    Great article! So far, the price of the issue is 2 billion dollars! Americans will raise rates if the need arises! Our capabilities are one-fifty of the American! If this is not enough, the ruling regime will be replaced. Experience they do not take!
    Isn't it better to use these funds for the Oryol, Bryansk, and Vladimir regions? Africa has already written off 20 billion dollars!
  • dmmyak40
    dmmyak40 April 29 2021 19: 42
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    Since when has Hezbollah been banned in Russia? And its leaders come to Moscow for negotiations.
  • Narak-zempo
    Narak-zempo April 30 2021 12: 13
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    And the Sudanese turned out to be non-brothers.
    We are ready to sell Russia in advance.
    1. Lech from Android.
      Lech from Android. April 30 2021 12: 22
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      Here the question is who will give more, do you understand the oriental bazaar.
      1. Narak-zempo
        Narak-zempo April 30 2021 14: 36
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        Quote: Lech from Android.
        Here the question is who will give more, do you understand the oriental bazaar.

        Well, damn it, it's a standard story - we pump free aid into the country, and then they are sold to the States.
  • zav
    zav 3 May 2021 06: 18
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    In the short story "Tidbit", the American writer Paul Anderson described this situation almost exactly. A "good" employee of the League's Galactic Patrol "fed" a "bad" ruler of one of the planetary systems a lifeless planet on its border - in other words, provoked an unbalanced but ambitious ruler to seize an allegedly unnecessary strategic point. Further, using all the material and military might of the League, which unites a million star systems, the "good" Patrol continues provocations until complete victory. That is, ostentatious activity in a particular star system bordering on a "bad" empire makes an ambitious ruler, mindlessly pulling his own resources, send soldiers to where nature itself destroys aliens without firing a single shot. Until he received a message that "there have been changes in the government of the empire."
  • Sirocco
    Sirocco 5 May 2021 02: 11
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    Is it weak for us to stir up the overthrow of the government of Sudan and our nearby pro-American union republics? It is necessary to do like the Anglo-Saxons of their lives by the method and on their lips. And this should be done yesterday.