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"The situation in the Ukrainian Air Force is critical": NI on the problems of Ukrainian military aviation

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The air force of Ukraine is one of the weakest, along with fleet, places of the defense system of this post-Soviet state. If the ground forces partially rearmed and increased their combat capability during the hostilities in the Donbass, including thanks to the active support of the United States and NATO, then with the Air Force everything is different.


American columnist Sebastien Roblin of The National Interest (NI) believes that the modernization of the Ukrainian military aviation will inevitably drag on. Its scale will not be comparable to the modernization of the ground forces. So, according to the plans of the Ukrainian leadership, in 2023-2025. Kiev should purchase from 6 to 12 modern aircraft for training pilots, and in the period from 2025 to 2030 alone, another 30 aircraft will be purchased, which will replace the MiG-29 fighters currently in service with the Ukrainian Air Force.

Also, the Ukrainian authorities expect to purchase new medium transport aircraft in the future. It is planned to spend $ 1,43 billion for the implementation of this goal, but the deadlines are rather distant - Kiev wants to buy transport aircraft between 2027 and 2035.

The main problem on which the situation in the Ukrainian Air Force can be called critical is the obsolescence of the aircraft fleet and the lack of funds for its renewal. Now the United States and France are actively persuading Kiev to buy American and French-made aircraft from them, respectively. To a large extent, this is done in order to exclude the possibility of China acquiring the Motor Sich enterprise.

However, Ukraine is not able to acquire the same Rafale in sufficient quantities: the entire annual budget of the Ukrainian Air Force can be spent on the purchase of only three such aircraft, and after all they need to be serviced, trained pilots, and what are three aircraft, if we compare Ukraine with its most the likely enemy - neighboring Russia.


Sebastien Roblin lists those aircraft models that could suit the Ukrainian military aviation at the present stage of its existence. These are American F-15 or F-16C, E-2 early warning aircraft. However, the same F-15s remain expensive to operate. Another option is the Swedish Gripen-E planes, but Sweden is unlikely to be able to influence Kiev so that Ukraine would buy the planes from it, and not from the United States or France.

At the same time, many Western experts express doubts not only that Ukraine will be able to modernize its Air Force, but also in the very expediency of such modernization. This may be a senseless undertaking, also because Kiev will not be able to compete with Russia in terms of the number of aircraft under any circumstances.

Over the past 30 years, Ukraine has practically not been involved in the development of its own air force. Not only aircraft have become obsolete, but also all related infrastructure, technical support, training systems for flight personnel and technical personnel. But even if a miracle happens and Kiev receives money to purchase a certain number of modern American or French fighters, its aircraft will still remain vulnerable to the Russian Aerospace Forces.
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  1. Killemall
    Killemall April 26 2021 15: 34
    +16
    Ukrainian Air Force ???? .... winked I haven’t heard it !!!
    1. Cananecat
      Cananecat April 26 2021 15: 39
      +9
      The case when you do not need to buy new old stuff, but create everything from scratch ... "but we have no money," as Matroskin said.
      1. antivirus
        antivirus April 26 2021 15: 49
        +9
        how much Luke did in comparison with the outskirts ............................
        1. prior
          prior April 26 2021 16: 13
          +10
          In Bandera Ukraine, the president is NOT a LOCH, but you can respect the president of the union Belarus with great respect, who really did a lot. yes
      2. Avior
        Avior April 26 2021 23: 54
        -1
        It is a strange idea to create an incomplete production of combat aircraft from scratch with a purchase volume of 30-50 pieces. The planes will be golden.
    2. krops777
      krops777 April 26 2021 15: 57
      +9
      Ukrainian Air Force ???? .... winked not heard her !!!


      In the event of a resumption of active hostilities in the Donbass, they will lose the last thing they have, and buy for 60-100 million. dollars per unit, moreover, to invest in infrastructure, the impoverished outskirts have neither the means nor the possibilities.
      1. Kaman
        Kaman April 26 2021 23: 00
        -1
        For Ukraine, the most reasonable thing is not to spend bad money on manned aircraft, but to have modern air defense and attack drones (modeled on Azerbaijan)
        1. Filxnumx
          Filxnumx April 27 2021 08: 07
          +3
          At least Azerbaijan had someone to fight with. And with whom will Ukraine be able to fight? Poland, Hungary, Romania, Slovakia? This is unlikely, the striped regional committee will not. am RF, Belarus? Also on the past, Ukrainians in the absence of intelligence, fool yet, not so suicidal. It's a pity there is no common border with Gabon. There the APU would show crocodiles where to spend the winter! laughing Maybe.
    3. Xnumx vis
      Xnumx vis April 26 2021 16: 17
      +3
      Quote: KilleMall
      Ukrainian Air Force ???? .... winked I haven’t heard it !!!

      The Navy was given inflatable boats ... VVSuk inflatable airplanes ... Cheap and cheerful ... And if every warrior will be given a b. at. inflatable lady, then in general life is good ..
      1. Sayan
        Sayan April 26 2021 16: 50
        +4
        Quote: 30 vis
        Quote: KilleMall
        Ukrainian Air Force ???? .... winked I haven’t heard it !!!

        The Navy was given inflatable boats ... VVSuk inflatable airplanes ... Cheap and cheerful ... And if every warrior will be given a b. at. inflatable lady, then in general life is good ..

        Uh, no, they will make litaks from a pack of A4)), and they have been using rubber boats for a long time instead of women)))
        1. Alexander 3
          Alexander 3 April 26 2021 19: 28
          +3
          It seems to me, out of economy, they take turns there today, a woman, tomorrow a husband.
      2. XXXIII
        XXXIII April 26 2021 20: 29
        +2
        Quote: 30 vis
        Quote: KilleMall
        Ukrainian Air Force ???? .... winked I haven’t heard it !!!

        The Navy was given inflatable boats ... VVSuk inflatable airplanes ... Cheap and cheerful ... And if every warrior will be given a b. at. inflatable lady, then in general life is good ..

        Then only better, rubber wars of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, a new development, otherwise the cyborgs demand a salary. laughing
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    5. TermNachTer
      TermNachTer April 26 2021 19: 18
      +2
      If you have only been stealing and selling for 30 years, then what can be the result?))))
  2. Murmur 55
    Murmur 55 April 26 2021 15: 43
    +9
    Like the idea that only air defense can neutralize the advantage of Russia, yeah, and our VKS will fly to Ukraine in orderly rows (like in a parade), just like another "expert" just announced that two Berks would demolish the Black Sea Fleet. And all the systems of counteraction are not taken into account, and the infantry (according to their logic), I build up in ranks and go to the "warriors of light" in an open field.
    1. Alexander 3
      Alexander 3 April 26 2021 19: 34
      0
      Such iksperdy, when they declare any news, probably look at themselves in the mirror.
  3. Tagan
    Tagan April 26 2021 15: 46
    +10
    What is this empty hack Roblin is driving? Ukraine does not exchange for a trifle and has long been determined - only F-35!
    1. mole
      mole April 26 2021 15: 58
      +10
      Quote: Tagan
      ... only the F-35!

      And 2 pieces, do not agree for less. wink
    2. wow
      wow April 26 2021 16: 14
      +9
      Nope, HE does not want to buy, HE wants to "get". If only the Wishlist does not break!
      1. Alexander 3
        Alexander 3 April 26 2021 19: 37
        0
        Wishlist will tear like paper, those who sell them pepelatsy know how to do it.
  4. NF68
    NF68 April 26 2021 15: 47
    +1
    And they still stuttered at the expense of the American F-35.
    1. XXXIII
      XXXIII April 26 2021 20: 30
      +1
      Quote: NF68
      And they still stuttered at the expense of the American F-35.

      Well, they didn't want to buy at their own expense, but they were shown where to go. laughing
  5. APASUS
    APASUS April 26 2021 15: 52
    +2
    What a strange choice is offered to Ukraine. Who will ask her. The United States will either put on credit or donate flying scrap metal. There are no options for the Swedes or the French to sit there at all .............. ..... the Americans are spilling this swamp!
    1. Herman 4223
      Herman 4223 April 26 2021 18: 42
      +3
      In the United States, factories are now busy, they do not have time to sculpt for everyone. They can give such a rich market to the French too. This is even good for the United States, if the command is given to the front, then French planes will be shot down, not American ones. After all, they follow the image of their cars.
      1. Filxnumx
        Filxnumx April 27 2021 08: 27
        +1
        The Drive: in Ukraine, a drunk 47-year-old captain in a Volkswagen rammed a MiG-29

        Do not worry, colleague, for the "frog pads". As long as such "lads" are in the Ukrainian Air Force, they will shoot down ALL planes: both French and American. Otherwise, they can nationalize (like Motor Sich).
      2. APASUS
        APASUS April 27 2021 08: 42
        0
        Quote: Herman 4223
        In the United States, factories are now busy, they do not have time to mold for everyone.

        Nobody offers Ukraine the F-35, and the rest of the fleet is enough, and with a used one, there are no problems at all.
        Quote: Herman 4223
        They can give such a rich market to the French too.

        They cannot give it away in principle. This is not why they invested in a coup in Ukraine to give the aviation market to the French.
        Quote: Herman 4223
        ... This is even good for the United States, if the command is given to the front, then French planes will be shot down, not American ones. After all, they follow the image of their cars.

        They monitor the image of the F-35, but these planes will not even offer them in their sleep.
        1. Herman 4223
          Herman 4223 April 27 2021 11: 22
          +1
          They monitor the image of all aircraft. Not only F-35. Older aircraft models are also in production now for various customers.
          F-15 for USA only 144 vehicles ordered.
          1. APASUS
            APASUS April 27 2021 11: 27
            0
            Quote: Herman 4223
            They monitor the image of all aircraft. Not only F-35. Older aircraft models are also in production now for various customers.
            F-15 for USA only 144 vehicles ordered.

            Ukraine, in principle, cannot claim anything, except for the F-16, and then it is performed by used and very much used
            1. Herman 4223
              Herman 4223 April 27 2021 12: 07
              +1
              Yes, I also laugh at their plans to buy a hundred cars. They would say ten or twenty, maximum thirty, I would still believe.
  6. Oleg133
    Oleg133 April 26 2021 15: 54
    +3
    Quote: antivirus
    how much Luke did in comparison with the outskirts ............................

    The more difficult it will be to fight. "Old Man" zmagarov has been growing for a long time. Do you think the Bolsheviks created Ukraine and Belarus for the happiness of the Russian people?
  7. HAM
    HAM April 26 2021 15: 54
    +2
    The fleet is being modernized with rubber boats, why not modernize the Air Force with hang gliders ...
  8. tank_kv1
    tank_kv1 April 26 2021 15: 56
    -9
    Remembering the lessons of the "winter" war with Finland, I think that at the beginning of active hostilities there will be those willing to lease aircraft to Ukraine, organize volunteer pilots, etc. recourse
    1. mikhail065
      mikhail065 April 26 2021 17: 30
      +1
      ,, to organize volunteer pilots, i.e. potential suicide bombers lol
    2. KCA
      KCA April 26 2021 19: 32
      0
      Russia is no stranger to fighting against the united forces of Europe, that of the Republic of Ingushetia, that the USSR, let alone volunteer detachments, it’s so easy to go to rags, so that there will be nothing to bury, the Hungarians at Stalingrad tried their best not to take prisoners, those wishing to volunteer against Russia may ask
      1. Black lotos
        Black lotos April 26 2021 21: 35
        -1
        Quote: KCA
        Russia is no stranger to fighting against the united forces of Europe, that of the Republic of Ingushetia, that of the USSR

        Russia has never fought (RI fought as part of coalitions against other coalitions, and also the USSR) alone with everyone except the Crimean one. (The result is sad). And now Europe has no time for wars. There is no one there to fight and there are no such ideas. They live comfortably for themselves and there is no need to fight for a worse climate than theirs.
    3. kit88
      kit88 April 26 2021 20: 53
      +9
      Quote: tank_kv1
      Remembering the lessons of the "winter" war with Finland, I think that at the beginning of active hostilities there will be those willing to lease aircraft to Ukraine, organize volunteer pilots, etc. recourse

      And also volunteer mechanics, volunteer technicians, volunteer engineers, volunteer navigators, volunteer ATI service with all its property ... well, so that everything supplied could fly, or rather make a flight laughing
      Ours, my friend, is not 1913, and the planes are now slightly more complicated than bicycles, they will not budge without proper preparation.
      yes
  9. rocket757
    rocket757 April 26 2021 15: 59
    +3
    the Ukrainian authorities expect to acquire new
    dreaming is not harmful, but the prospects are not even vague, they simply do not exist.
  10. Tagan
    Tagan April 26 2021 16: 03
    +3
    Quote: tank_kv1
    Remembering the lessons of the "winter" war with Finland, I think that at the beginning of active hostilities there will be those willing to lease aircraft to Ukraine, organize volunteer pilots, etc. recourse

    Dying for slaves?
    Although Poles can be "persuaded"
  11. Kot_Kuzya
    Kot_Kuzya April 26 2021 16: 20
    +4
    It's funny to write and talk about the Ukrainian Air Force. With the same success you can talk about the Air Force of Zimbabwe or Somalia. The Ukrainian Air Force will not even reach the level of the Romanian or Bulgarian Air Force under any circumstances, since even if there is a miracle of a trillion dollars for the Ukrainian Air Force, the Sumerians will steal everything. The level of corruption in Ukraine is comparable to the level of corruption in tropical Africa.
    1. Tochilka
      Tochilka April 26 2021 17: 40
      +4
      I want to thank. Out of interest, I poked my head around to read about the Somali Air Force and found the article "The Scorched Sands of Ogaden." good It follows from it that the Somalis from the Union delivered a lot of combat vehicles! And Wikipedia is empty. Zero information.
    2. not main
      not main April 26 2021 23: 30
      +1
      Quote: Kot_Kuzya
      then the Sumerians will steal everything. The level of corruption in Ukraine is comparable to the level of corruption in tropical Africa.

      This explains it all! How much equipment was left behind? I will say about helicopters, it was 3 SHELVES, not counting OVE and so on. And what is left by 2014? Several boards! CURTAIN!
  12. Tagan
    Tagan April 26 2021 16: 24
    +1
    Quote: yo-mine
    Nope, HE does not want to buy, HE wants to "get". If only the Wishlist does not break!

    Yes, I remember that they recently prodded something about Lend-Lease. True, they represent it as an analogue of a gratuitous basis.
  13. xorek
    xorek April 26 2021 16: 26
    0
    Funny article ... laughing
    1. Pete mitchell
      Pete mitchell April 26 2021 16: 54
      +4
      Quote: xorek
      Funny article ... laughing

      Well why are you so laughing it is a sin to laugh at the little ones, the original is even funnier, but more insidious.
      Here is an entertaining passage - As Ukraine is now unlikely to buy warplanes from Russia, Kiev must consider more expensive Western combat aircraft. - they have been fighting for the eighth year with the Russian Federation lol the author needs to study the material at least recourse
      But the insidious turn - And in 2014 combat operations Ukrainian warplanes suffered heavy losses to Russian missiles. The old woman Clinton manipulated the definitions in the same way: not the smartest Western reader will definitely understand that the planes were hollowed by the Russian troops, the Russians are so insidious
      1. xorek
        xorek April 26 2021 17: 30
        0
        Quote: Pete Mitchell
        Well, why are you so sinful to laugh at the little ones, the original is even funnier, but more insidious.

        This is laughter through tears. crying If you remember what the aircraft industry was like in Ukraine (it was built by the entire Soviet people) and how it was squandered and simply destroyed ..
        1. Pete mitchell
          Pete mitchell April 26 2021 17: 47
          +1
          Quote: xorek
          If you remember ... and how it was squandered and simply destroyed ..

          - You are apolitical Dear lol what does it mean to squander, it is you who do not speak democratically: it will be democratically - privatized; well, grabbed according to our laughing
        2. mark2
          mark2 April 26 2021 17: 51
          +2
          If you remember what the aircraft industry was like in Ukraine (it was built by the entire Soviet people) and how it was squandered and simply destroyed ..

          This is natural.
          Do not forget that in Ukraine the aviation industry remained or inherited not from Ukraine but from the USSR.
          The USSR built and maintained it. A country with over 250 million inhabitants.
          Ukraine is 6 times less. And she simply cannot contain the monsters. What it has today is the limit for its level of economic development.
          No matter how much better it was left, it would still be reduced to the minimum level.
          1. Avior
            Avior April 27 2021 00: 23
            +1
            The main Soviet aircraft industry facilities in Ukraine are Motor Sich, Progress, Antonov and Kharkiv aircraft plant - all of them were mainly engaged in transport aviation
            Motor Sich is holding on more or less, Progress is worse, Antonov and the Kharkov plant are barely breathing - they are still breathing and have not completely bent, like the Saratov aircraft plant, for example.
            Combat aircraft were not produced in Ukraine
  14. bald
    bald April 26 2021 16: 44
    +3
    In general, those who are even ready to sell Ukraine
    "contraceptives", they know very well, she is already a six, and they continue to plant her. It's clear with the striped ones, but Europe needs a fucking shake-up, it's enough for them to be jackals.
  15. No name B
    No name B April 26 2021 17: 24
    -1
    Interestingly, do they provide planes for leasing? Alternatively, they organize patrolling of the aviation of NATO countries.
  16. International Observer
    International Observer April 26 2021 17: 37
    0
    At the same time, many Western experts express doubts not only that Ukraine will be able to modernize its Air Force, but also in the very expediency of such modernization.

    They say that fools have no use for money. From the point of view of Western experts, Ukraine also has airplanes ... also, not very much needed)).
  17. CastroRuiz
    CastroRuiz April 26 2021 20: 05
    +1
    Does the UAE eat the Air Force? Somnevayus.
  18. Avior
    Avior April 27 2021 00: 10
    +1
    It makes no sense for Ukraine to buy expensive modern aircraft, especially the super-expensive Rafali.
    It seems that Indians have money like a fool's candy wrappers
    True, only the French themselves talk about buying, in Ukraine the choice comes from flu and F-15.
    In my opinion, the F-15 does not make much sense to buy
    Grippen is much more logical.
    Easier, able to sit on the roadway, cheaper to operate.
    And the F-16 is even more logical, they are even cheaper to operate.
    To control the air in the absence of intense hostilities with a technological enemy, everyone understands perfectly well that a potential enemy of Ukraine will still be superior in aviation, so a couple of squadrons of fairly modern and inexpensive aircraft to maintain will be enough, and the F-16 is the most logical choice. Well, maybe Grippen, prices need to be looked at
    It is more logical to buy a UAV.
  19. sgr291158
    sgr291158 April 27 2021 04: 39
    +1
    Let the tears go, the balloons will be customized for you, there will be enough money for them.
  20. Reserve buildbat
    Reserve buildbat April 27 2021 06: 41
    +1
    They can buy fighters. Reciprocating. Museum "Hurricanes" for example. And "medium transport planes" are a shame. Skakuasses jump in packs, they say they have the Antonov Design Bureau, without which the Russian air transport direction does not matter. And where are the new fashionable An-XXX "Bandera", An-XXU "Shukhevych"? Something not to be seen.
  21. Andrei Nikolaevich
    Andrei Nikolaevich April 27 2021 07: 50
    +1
    I just have one question. Why do they need planes? ...
  22. Bshkaus
    Bshkaus April 27 2021 09: 53
    0
    Yeah...
    This may be a senseless undertaking, also because Kiev will not be able to compete with Russia in terms of the number of aircraft under any circumstances.

    It was not enough for Ukraine to compete with the Russian Federation in terms of the number of aircraft.
    I don’t understand one thing, from where is so much youthful maximalism? It's not about the number of fighters, but the ability to use them. No sense from the entire Russian armada of aircraft, if the possibility of their use against a small but proud Ukraine is constrained by the need to cover the country from the NATO Air Force, China and conduct a database in Syria.
    So the Russian Federation does not have as many forces as it seems to allocate "unlimited" for spending in Ukraine, because you cannot hide from NATO with a bare sirloin. Ukraine should proceed from the fact that the Russian Federation can be painlessly applied taking into account losses, and these are completely different figures. To this must be added the organization of alliances between small countries.
    So the hacky bravado is not appropriate.