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Ukraine will supply engines for Turkish ATAK-II attack helicopters

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A contract has been signed according to which Ukraine will supply engines for Turkish ATAK-II attack helicopters. The choice fell on the Ukrainian manufacturer because Ankara will not have problems with it, such as sanctions and embargoes.


According to the Ukrainian Military Portal, this was stated by the General Director of Turkish Aerospace Industries (TAI) Temel Kotil, calling Ukraine a “brotherly country”.

The choice in favor of Ukrainian aircraft manufacturers is explained by Turkey's lack of an alternative, because cooperation with Western companies may end at any time due to the next geopolitical challenges.

This has already happened with the power plant for the Turkish tank Altay, and therefore the official Ankara wants to protect itself from this in the future.

The plans to equip ATAK-II helicopters with Ukrainian engines were first announced by the Turkish press in March 2021.

The mass of this helicopter is 11 tons. Two gas turbine engines allow it to operate in high temperatures as well as high altitudes. The armament of the attack ATAK-II consists of aviation cannons, air-to-air and air-to-surface missiles, as well as 70 mm unguided rockets.
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  1. svp67
    svp67 April 26 2021 11: 09
    +17
    Well, the "requisitioned" Motor Sich has come in handy ...
    1. Cananecat
      Cananecat April 26 2021 11: 13
      -2
      Political outcasts have found each other))
      1. Mitroha
        Mitroha April 26 2021 12: 29
        +4
        quote] after all, cooperation with Western companies may end at any time due to the next geopolitical challenges. [/ quote]
        And cooperation with Ukraine may be terminated due to non-fulfillment of the contract and theft of funds.
        1. Alex777
          Alex777 April 26 2021 14: 37
          +1
          after all, cooperation with Western companies may end at any time due to the next geopolitical challenges.

          And cooperation with Ukraine may be terminated due to non-fulfillment of the contract and theft of funds.

          And how did the Chinese close their cooperation?
          Is it not because of geopolitical challenges?
          1. Mitroha
            Mitroha April 26 2021 14: 48
            -1
            No, solely because of Ukraine's inability to make its own decisions.
            An example of SP-2, for the United States it is a geopolitical challenge (and economic), but with a consistent policy of the Russian Federation and Germany (although it is not much less dependent than 404), the project continues, albeit with delays. Therefore, the country's ability to defend its interests plays here, which in the case of Ukraine we did not see
            1. Alex777
              Alex777 April 26 2021 14: 53
              +7
              The states told Ukraine - China is not needed, and everything was covered.
              The states will tell Ukraine - Turkey is not needed. What will happen? wink
              SP-2 is a completely different topic. And the countries there are different.
              1. Mitroha
                Mitroha April 26 2021 15: 08
                +1
                Quote: Alex777
                The states told Ukraine - China is not needed, and everything was covered.
                The states will tell Ukraine - Turkey is not needed. What will happen? wink
                SP-2 is a completely different topic. And the countries there are different.

                And what am I writing to you about:
                No, solely because of Ukraine's inability to make its own decisions.
      2. Rasul Aliyev
        Rasul Aliyev April 27 2021 00: 49
        -1
        Is Russia better?
    2. Aaron Zawi
      Aaron Zawi April 26 2021 11: 19
      +3
      Quote: svp67
      Well, the "requisitioned" Motor Sich has come in handy ...

      Very mutually beneficial.
      1. Grandfather
        Grandfather April 26 2021 11: 23
        +9
        for a long time, apparently tourists will not go to Turkey.
        1. 210ox
          210ox April 26 2021 11: 45
          +1
          Maybe even tomatoes will be transported through China ...
          1. Anar
            Anar April 26 2021 13: 38
            +6
            Look at the reports on bilateral trade between Russia and Turkey ... Look who is selling to whom more provisions ... As they say, to see a straw in someone else's eye, not to notice a log in yours ...
            Here is the trading data for 2019.
            https://russian-trade.com/reports-and-reviews/2020-02/torgovlya-mezhdu-rossiey-i-turtsiey-v-2019-g/
        2. loki565
          loki565 April 26 2021 12: 06
          +6
          Turkey was closed, Egypt was opened, there is not much difference where to go)))
        3. Overlock
          Overlock April 26 2021 12: 09
          +3
          Quote: Dead Day
          for a long time, apparently tourists will not go to Turkey.

          Already going through .... Belarus
          1. Intruder
            Intruder April 26 2021 21: 41
            -5
            Already going through .... Belarus
            like marinated shellfish from the shores of the Minsk Sea !? From the same opera of sly absurdity: "... a submarine in the steppes of Ukraine" !?
            1. Overlock
              Overlock April 27 2021 09: 36
              +3
              Quote: Intruder
              like marinated shellfish from the shores of the Minsk Sea !? From the same opera of sly absurdity: "... a submarine in the steppes of Ukraine" !?

              Learn:
              https://lenta.ru/news/2020/07/09/sposoby/
              https://realtravel.by/turkey-cherez-belarus/
              https://newizv.ru/news/society/14-04-2021/provereno-ni-uletet-v-turtsii-na-otdyh-esche-mozhno-cherez-minsk-i-strany-sng
      2. NEOZ
        NEOZ April 26 2021 11: 26
        +1
        Quote: Aron Zaavi
        Very mutually beneficial.

        mutually beneficial to whom? Chinese?
        1. Incvizitor
          Incvizitor April 27 2021 01: 56
          0
          Better for the Chinese than for these terrorists.
      3. Killemall
        Killemall April 26 2021 12: 02
        +1
        mutually beneficial? laughing it is still the Turks do not know how dill are able to fulfill contracts ... you had to think of a contract with these freaks to conclude? laughing apparently the accident rate in the Turkish Air Force is rather low. laughing need to raise laughing laughing
      4. Mitroha
        Mitroha April 26 2021 12: 30
        +3
        Quote: Aaron Zawi
        Quote: svp67
        Well, the "requisitioned" Motor Sich has come in handy ...

        Very mutually beneficial.

        Uh-hi, hello to the Chinese laughing
        The USA pressed on, the Chinese got in, and the Turks got the benefit (but this is not certain))
        In the event that the Chinese still put pressure on with the return of the debt, only the Turks will remain in the advantage (but this is not certain, because the other side is Ukraine)
    3. max702
      max702 April 26 2021 11: 38
      +5
      The Turks have gone mad .. Their life does not teach them anything .. How is the contract with Oplotami, and the BTR-4 "Crack"? And the production of Anov for different customers? And what about numerous aircraft repairs in Ukraine? With the subsequent scandals .. Ndaa .. Or it's just puffing up the cheeks and puffing up not brothers with the 404th naked peremogu ...
      1. loki565
        loki565 April 26 2021 12: 11
        +2
        Rather, they will receive the technology for the production of engines, no one is counting on Ukraine as a long-term, reliable supplier.
      2. Mitroha
        Mitroha April 26 2021 12: 35
        0
        Not brothers will take an advance from the Turks and sell Motor Sich back to China laughing
        1. Intruder
          Intruder April 26 2021 21: 43
          -1
          Not brothers will take an advance from the Turks and sell Motor Sich back to China
          And the brothers - they will do it, just again at the suggestion of their president, I'm just talking about Kiev slyness! laughing
    4. loki565
      loki565 April 26 2021 12: 08
      +4
      Well, the "requisitioned" "Motor Sich" has come in handy
      ...
      It is interesting to see the reaction of the Chinese, they have invested so much there, and the profit floats to Turkey)))
    5. Sandro1977
      Sandro1977 April 26 2021 12: 35
      +3
      I hope the Turks came to an agreement without prepayment? Otherwise, they will be thrown like China ...
    6. TermNachTer
      TermNachTer April 26 2021 12: 43
      +1
      Nonsense of a gray horse))) no one will allow Kuev to sell engines to the Turks, not for that the plant was taken away from the Chinese.
    7. Barberry25
      Barberry25 April 26 2021 17: 54
      0
      but for a long time? how will the Turks decide to put a spoke in the wheels in the United States ... so immediately and the sanctions will be introduced
    8. xorek
      xorek April 26 2021 19: 10
      0
      Quote: svp67
      Well, the "requisitioned" Motor Sich has come in handy ...

      But the Chinese will not just leave it all ... And Russia too!
  2. Popandos
    Popandos April 26 2021 11: 10
    +17
    The choice fell on the Ukrainian manufacturer because Ankara will not have problems with it

    Here the Turks got excited, one call from Washington, and their "brothers" will throw them as Chinese.
    1. svp67
      svp67 April 26 2021 11: 15
      +12
      Quote: Popandos
      Here the Turks got excited, one call from Washington, and their "brothers" will throw them as Chinese.

      Quiet ... quietly ... do not bother them to rejoice ... Everything else will come later ... but it will be abbreviated
    2. spech
      spech April 26 2021 11: 16
      +1
      Here the Turks got excited, one call from Washington, and their "brothers" will throw them as Chinese.

      That's what the calculation is, they will take the grandmother and say "the elder does not order.
      1. Uncle lee
        Uncle lee April 26 2021 11: 37
        +6
        calling Ukraine a "brotherly country".
        "Do not believe the woman, do not believe the Turk, do not believe the drinker." request
    3. Mitroha
      Mitroha April 26 2021 12: 38
      +2
      Quote: Popandos
      The choice fell on the Ukrainian manufacturer because Ankara will not have problems with it

      Here the Turks got excited, one call from Washington, and their "brothers" will throw them as Chinese.

      Based on your nickname, in such matters you are Doca laughing ... So it will be so
      1. TermNachTer
        TermNachTer April 26 2021 12: 44
        0
        Kamrad is right not even 100%, but 1000. And not even from Washington, but from the building on the street. Tank in Kueva.
      2. Popandos
        Popandos April 26 2021 13: 13
        +1
        And don't say where ours just didn't get wassat
  3. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 April 26 2021 11: 15
    +5
    And the claim of the Chinese for 3,6 billion will be repaid together with the Turks? Or friendship is friendship, and money apart?
    Temel Kotil, calling Ukraine a "brotherly country"
    The Azerbaijanis shuddered.
    1. Mitroha
      Mitroha April 26 2021 12: 40
      +1
      Quote: rotmistr60
      Temel Kotil, calling Ukraine a "brotherly country"
      The Azerbaijanis shuddered.

      laughing laughing
      Thank you, to tears hi
    2. Maki Avellevich
      Maki Avellevich April 27 2021 06: 35
      0
      Quote: rotmistr60
      And the claim of the Chinese for 3,6 billion will be repaid together with the Turks? Or friendship is friendship, and money apart?

      who dined the girl and danced. I think the Americans are paying the Chinese bills for Motorsich.
      the Ukrainians themselves did not decide to leave the Chinese.
      Israel went through this with China. agreed to sell reconnaissance aircraft but the American vetoed. forfeits were also paid by America if memory serves.
  4. Nikolay R-PM
    Nikolay R-PM April 26 2021 11: 15
    +2
    11 tons takeoff weight. talking about TV3-117SBM1V? or some other engine of the tv3-117 family?
    1. Zaurbek
      Zaurbek April 26 2021 11: 33
      +2
      2500hp probably the first
    2. Brturin
      Brturin April 26 2021 13: 18
      +1
      Quote: Nikolay R-PM
      or some other engine of the tv3-117 family

      As if with South Korea in 2015 it did not repeat itself with TV3-117VMA on KA-32A then it was admitted that 10 engines had a factory defect ...
      1. Sergey Aleksandrovich
        Sergey Aleksandrovich April 26 2021 13: 46
        0
        South Korea does not conduct hostilities, they are offended when equipment just breaks down, and Turkey will lose helicopters even before the engines run out, including due to engine breakdowns. There are two big differences here.
    3. Kurare
      Kurare April 26 2021 15: 28
      0
      Quote: Nikolay R-PM
      11 tons takeoff weight.

      TAI T-219 (ATAK) takeoff weight 5 tons... Those. The Turks set out to create an ATAK-II helicopter with a combat weight almost twice the existing one, and not even their own, but under a license. belay

      I am tormented by vague doubts that they will be able to master such a project within, say, the next 5-10 years. And by that time, who knows what will remain of Motor Sich.
  5. Mouse
    Mouse April 26 2021 11: 20
    -1
    And such risks as delaying deadlines or simply not delivering at all ... belay
    1. NEOZ
      NEOZ April 26 2021 11: 37
      0
      Quote: Mouse
      And such risks as delaying deadlines or simply not delivering at all ...

      calculated ... if anything, they will buy from the Russians ...
  6. zwlad
    zwlad April 26 2021 11: 25
    0
    I wonder when the striped ones will say "sit" to Ukraine on the issue of engine supplies?
    Before the construction of a prototype helicopter, or will they be able to wait until Ankara is fully spent?
    1. Zaurbek
      Zaurbek April 26 2021 11: 34
      +1
      I'm wondering whose gearbox ... from T129 will no longer work
  7. mojohed2012
    mojohed2012 April 26 2021 11: 25
    0
    That is why Turkey was closed to us. A clearly anti-Russian vector of policy continues there.
    1. private person
      private person April 26 2021 11: 47
      0
      That is why Turkey was closed to us.

      Are you so upset? Yes, for the Turks, Russians have always been, first of all, "Natashki" and easy money.
      1. mojohed2012
        mojohed2012 April 26 2021 12: 56
        +2
        On the contrary. I have never been upset. It's just that the closure of Turkey was carried out not only because of the pandemic. And it is right. Now it is the turn for deliveries of tomatoes and other products of the "sultanate".
        1. private person
          private person April 26 2021 16: 40
          -1
          Now it is the turn for deliveries of tomatoes and other products of the "sultanate".

          So it is of course true and what in return? You can live without tomatoes, but after all, not only are they exported from Turkey, but taking into account the sanctions, it will not be possible to find a replacement quickly. The government is that, but to the common people, given the fact that prices, and so on everything, slowly but growing up, not very gut.
  8. Operator
    Operator April 26 2021 11: 29
    +4
    Ukraine, which did not recognize the Armenian genocide, will supply engines to Turkey, which did not recognize the Armenian genocide, under the protection of the Armenian Avakov laughing
    1. Alexander 3
      Alexander 3 April 26 2021 11: 44
      +1
      It is for sure that the Turks will say a couple of gentle words to Avakov and he will do everything, remembering the past. Whatever they punish him .. Or he may remember, well, as always, he will deceive.
    2. 210ox
      210ox April 26 2021 11: 48
      +5
      He is already wearing a kippa .. There are enough such "Armenians in Jerusalem."
  9. APASUS
    APASUS April 26 2021 11: 36
    -3
    A contract has been signed according to which Ukraine will supply engines for Turkish ATAK-II attack helicopters. The choice fell on the Ukrainian manufacturer because Ankara will not have problems with it, such as sanctions and embargoes.

    I wonder what the Turks will choose - problems with China due to Motor Sich or trade in engines with Ukraine?
  10. Incvizitor
    Incvizitor April 26 2021 11: 37
    -1
    Here is the miracle of Turkish production, "they mastered it themselves", in fact they buy from the Papuans.
    1. aslanismaili611
      aslanismaili611 April 26 2021 15: 01
      0
      Papuans can be found among the Slavs by inquisitorial methods. lol
      1. Incvizitor
        Incvizitor April 27 2021 01: 54
        0
        In the Union, they tried to do something decent from them, but after that they returned to the wild field and it is possible to buy engines for new helicopters from this wild field only from complete absence.
  11. jetfors_84
    jetfors_84 April 26 2021 11: 38
    0
    Do they think the western regional committee will not force the Ukraine to refuse the Turks in engines? In my opinion they are deeply mistaken
  12. Roma 1977
    Roma 1977 April 26 2021 11: 40
    +8
    "If a Turk called you a friend, it means he wants to deceive, if he called you a brother, then he has already deceived you" (c)
    1. max702
      max702 April 26 2021 20: 19
      +1
      Quote: Roma-1977
      "If a Turk called you a friend, it means he wants to deceive, if he called you a brother, then he has already deceived you" (c)

      Is it like about the Armenians?
  13. Murmur 55
    Murmur 55 April 26 2021 11: 45
    +2
    That is, there will be no problems with sanctions and embargoes ??? The United States will shut off these supplies if they want to, if they want to, they are now trying to put Turkey in a "stall" so that the rest of NATO does not kick up, the recognition of the Armenian genocide is from the same opera. So everything depends on Washington, and Ukraine is only an executor, Motor Sich and China are a vivid example of how the interests of Washington and Kiev "coincide".
  14. Termit1309
    Termit1309 April 26 2021 11: 47
    +1
    It's good that a time machine doesn't exist. Otherwise, the ancestors of the Ukrainians would have impaled their descendants at best.
  15. Elturisto
    Elturisto April 26 2021 11: 50
    +3
    And the great raw material power drives the Turks gas and grain, and in return they support the nationalists in the Caucasus in the Russian Federation. Molodets Boguslaev, by the way, he is from Uralsk Kaz.SSR. Molodtsy Ukrainians.
    1. Semyonich from the Urals
      Semyonich from the Urals April 26 2021 12: 03
      -4
      Right now, they will cram you ...
      1. Elturisto
        Elturisto April 26 2021 18: 56
        -1
        It seems to you already ...
  16. rocket757
    rocket757 April 26 2021 11: 59
    +1
    Ukraine will supply engines for Turkish ATAK-II attack helicopters
    the sultan will try to squeeze the maximum out of the situation. It was all predictable.
  17. krops777
    krops777 April 26 2021 12: 21
    0
    The choice fell on the Ukrainian manufacturer because Ankara will not have problems with it, such as sanctions and embargoes.


    But there will be others so be sure. bully
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  20. Boxer
    Boxer April 26 2021 12: 36
    +1
    The most interesting. that Peter the first did not say this. In general, no one said this, maybe the Armenian radio) Lies are golimy. Well, look also, maybe Bismarck said something like that, he too is attributed all nonsense)
    Quote: Uncle Lee
    calling Ukraine a "brotherly country".
    "Do not believe the woman, do not believe the Turk, do not believe the drinker." request
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  23. Black lotos
    Black lotos April 26 2021 14: 00
    +1
    the roots of this whole event are
    that back in 2018, Turkey and Pakistan signed an agreement on the supply of 30 T-129 ATAK helicopters, which became the largest contract in Turkish history for a one-time export supply of military products. The deal was estimated at $ 1,5 billion. However, the implementation of the contract was delayed due to Washington's refusal to provide Ankara with licenses for the export of engines produced for these helicopters by American companies.
    In order to avoid German / American / Canadian / Austrian sanctions, only the option with the Ukrainian engine remained.
    It turns out that in addition to the contract for 400 engines for L 15, Motor Sich will receive another contract for helicopter engines to Turkey (with the possibility of re-export to Pakistan, etc.).
    Judging by the news of Ivchenko, Progress is again doing something new for China. (Including with an opportunity for Turkey)
    1. Alex777
      Alex777 April 26 2021 15: 43
      0
      However, the implementation of the contract was delayed due to Washington's refusal to provide Ankara with licenses for the export of engines produced for these helicopters by American companies.

      What prevents the United States from telling Ukraine - to stand, be afraid, not supply anything !?
      Or, in your opinion, the States themselves did not sell the engines, but would they be glad for the Ukrainian sales?
      1. Black lotos
        Black lotos April 26 2021 21: 27
        0
        Quote: Alex777
        What prevents the United States from telling Ukraine - to stand, be afraid, not supply anything !?

        Just a few days ago, Motor Sich again signed a contract for another supply for China and an order for an individual entrepreneur for a new engine model.
        The main market is Asia. Here re-export / sanctions are slightly different. The prohibition of engines from the United States to Turkey or Europe to Turkey and other Asian ones is associated with public pressure. Therefore, and political prohibitions. A ban has been received on the supply of European and American engines to the Turks - the public is happy. And the supply of Ukrainian engines to the public in Europe / USA on a drum. Here, Ukraine itself sometimes prohibited the re-export of its engines from China to Latin America.
        Motor Sich is nationalized. So the control of the state of Ukraine over it remains. And products are money. The United States does not intend to take on the maintenance of anyone. But work yourself, if you please.
        Logically, they also pushed Antonov Airlans into Saylis, saving the Dnieper from the Volga. And NATO logistics.
        So the US logic is quite practical here. There is control over technology. Products can be sold to maintain this control (without money, they will creep around the world)
        Bans on supply are similar to bans on production and hence a loss of control.
        1. Alex777
          Alex777 April 27 2021 00: 08
          0
          Maybe you're right. We'll see. hi
    2. Intruder
      Intruder April 26 2021 21: 46
      -1
      Judging by the news of Ivchenko, Progress is again doing something new for China. (Including with an opportunity for Turkey)
      Well done, what they are doing with a quiet glan, looking at colleagues from the other bank of the Dnieper (Motor Sich) !!!
  24. Light
    Light April 26 2021 14: 49
    0
    As for "there will be no problems", both with deliveries and meeting deadlines, and with the quality of the engines, I would not promise in the place of the Turks)
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  26. NF68
    NF68 April 26 2021 15: 51
    0
    Did the Turks make a mistake in choosing an engine supplier?
  27. iouris
    iouris April 26 2021 16: 27
    0
    This means that Richard Moore and Erdogan and Aliyev seriously hope to win.
  28. International Observer
    International Observer April 26 2021 16: 37
    -2
    Ukraine will supply engines for Turkish ATAK-II attack helicopters ..

    ... when archaeologists and anthropologists of the future unearth primitive Ukrainians, they will establish that the "great Ukrainian civilization" was defeated by an insidious enemy who killed the gullible Ukrainian "Atlanteans", enslaved their lands, desecrated and poisoned the blood of their women and children, using hypocrisy, outright lies and ... air chariots with the inscription ATAK-II.
    This will be enough, because spears, arrows, pieces of rubble with dirt and cardboard tanks with the inscription "Roshen" on the towers will not be able to cause any harm to the enemy, who from the beginning of time lived the enslavement and extermination of those who were even more stupid than himself ...
  29. Andrey Kirilenko_2
    Andrey Kirilenko_2 April 26 2021 17: 45
    0
    And how the owner will look at it from the White House.
  30. Reserve buildbat
    Reserve buildbat April 26 2021 18: 21
    +2
    I strongly support it! The skakuas have not yet fulfilled a single contract, now they will overwhelm this one, you look and the sultan will begin to realize that the head is not only for wearing a fez and packing food.
  31. xorek
    xorek April 26 2021 19: 12
    0
    Early Erdogan rubs his hands .. What will be delivered to him will greatly disappoint him
    I can smell it with genes.))))
  32. hohohol
    hohohol April 26 2021 19: 45
    0
    The choice fell on a Ukrainian manufacturer because Ankara will not have problems with it, such as sanctions and embargoes.

    Blessed is he who believes. The way the Svidomye abandoned the Chinese did not teach them anything.
  33. Prisoner
    Prisoner April 26 2021 20: 19
    0
    what When Ukraine is in business, it is better not to rush to conclusions. This "lady" is quite free to deal with contracts. It all depends on what gets into the head of the administration of "Dancing on the ladder". And in order to believe the "brotherly" feelings of the Turkish comrades, one must be either very naive, or even an idiot.
  34. Romanenko
    Romanenko April 26 2021 21: 11
    +2
    Quote: "The choice fell on the Ukrainian manufacturer because Ankara will not have problems with it, such as sanctions and embargoes."
    Perhaps there will be no engines either, as well as problems with them.
    But they will take the money in advance
  35. IgorIP
    IgorIP April 26 2021 22: 13
    +1
    "Ukraine will supply engines for Turkish ATAK-II attack helicopters ..."
    Did the owners allow it? Or did the potheads want to throw away their sponsors?
  36. FrankyStein
    FrankyStein April 26 2021 23: 39
    +1
    The statesmen blocked the supply of their helicopter engines to the Turks, thereby disrupting the contract to Pakistan. Not that they will silently watch as their new-born mongrel sticks in their spanking of the Turks.
  37. Sedoi zmei
    Sedoi zmei April 27 2021 08: 45
    0
    Turks on the way do not understand with whom they contacted! )) Ukraine for a YEAR was able to assemble and release ONE tank from the factory !!! ))) Turkey will get a lot of engines at this rate!
  38. Stepan S
    Stepan S April 27 2021 16: 56
    0
    Has anyone seen this contract "in the eye"? They love to wishful thinking in Ukraine.