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In Turkey, a new ammunition for drones was presented with a video about the destruction of the Pantsir-S air defense missile system

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A video created with the help of computer graphics has appeared on the Web, in which a Turkish drone strikes a Russian-made "Pantsir-S". Thus, the Turkish company Roketsan held a "presentation" of its own ammunition for the unmanned aviation... It is noted that the ammunition is entirely national development.


The new Turkish UAV Bayraktar Akinci, after the final test, will receive its own line of ammunition, the development of which is already being completed. The Turks have already tested an "intelligent" mini-bomb from a drone, claiming success. It is noted that the MAM family ammunition was developed by the Turkish company Roketsan. As stated in the presentation, the ammunition is designed to destroy objects, sea and ground targets, including armored ones. Performance characteristics are not given.

Noteworthy is the video released by the company, in which the Russian Pantsir-S anti-aircraft missile-gun system (ZRPK) acts as the target for the new ammunition fired from the drone.


In principle, nothing else was to be expected from the Turks. Despite all Erdogan's statements and oaths of "eternal friendship", Ankara, first of all, thinks about its own benefit, and not about the Russian one, which is quite understandable. They still remember last year's confrontation between the Turkish Bayraktar TV2 drones and the Russian Pantsir-S air defense missile systems in Libya, where, according to some sources, Turkish drones destroyed a "bunch" of "Shells", according to others, Russian "Shells" landed many Turkish drones. Therefore, it is hardly appropriate to be surprised that it is the Russian complex as the target in the video.
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  1. rocket757
    rocket757 April 23 2021 09: 00
    +24
    In Turkey, a new ammunition for drones was presented with a video about the destruction of the Pantsir-S air defense missile system
    ... The advertisement is engine of the trade ...
    They want to compete with the best, the most dangerous, this is also understandable.
    1. OgnennyiKotik
      OgnennyiKotik April 23 2021 09: 06
      +2
      So they tested them in reality. On the new UAV Akinji.

      MAM-T with UAV has a range of 30+, with F-16 60+ km; diameter 230 mm, length 1,4 meters, weight 94 kg. Laser guidance, GPS, inertial.

      1. rocket757
        rocket757 April 23 2021 09: 35
        +17
        Ammunition is becoming smarter, more effective, this is a reality.
        There is a good such rule in air defense. Destroy the media in advance !!! then nothing will fly at you.
        1. Cheshire
          Cheshire April 23 2021 09: 55
          -2
          Only the mobility of the target will help here. hi
          1. Tatyana
            Tatyana April 23 2021 10: 21
            +7
            Quote: rocket757
            They want to compete with the best, the most dangerous, this is also understandable.

            Unfortunately, the West no longer conceals their preparations for a military strike against Russia, but Western media are considering various ways to start a war with Russia with the supposedly obligatory defeat of Russia and its weapons in this war.

            As a result, all these active preparations for the war of the countries of the collective West - the United States and their satellites: NATO countries under the leadership of the Pentagon, including Turkey, ... - with Russia will someday FORCE the Russian Federation to a pre-emptive strike on them in TMV.
            1. hrych
              hrych April 23 2021 10: 40
              +7
              Quote: Tatiana
              in the West they no longer hide their preparations for a military strike against Russia

              Well, starting with the Fulton speech, they don't hide it. In this case, both the UAV and the Pantsir are rivals on the battlefield of local conflicts. And in part, this Turkish advertisement is a recognition of the merits of Pantsir. The vaunted Beyraktar on the Shell broke his teeth and broke ...
              1. Tatyana
                Tatyana April 23 2021 11: 13
                +1
                Quote: hrych
                Well, starting with the Fulton speech, they don't hide it. In this case, both the UAV and the Armor are rivals on the battlefield of LOCAL conflicts.

                Unfortunately, the attack of the collective West on Russia with the concentration of the NATO armed forces near the Russian borders cannot be equated only with LOCAL conflicts.
                An analysis of the plans for a war between the West and Russia suggests that the West, in its scenarios for a war between the West and Russia, does not simply state or about the impossibility of Russia to win an unconditional victory over the aggressor, namely, either about the destruction of all parts of the RF Armed Forces up to the Urals, although this will cost NATO dearly in all respects.

                For example, the Russian expert E. Efstafiev correctly assesses these scenarios of the West.
                "Do you know what the biggest problem with these scripts is? In almost none of them we hit first. They are proceed from the assumption that we will wait until they begin to kill us "
                1. hrych
                  hrych April 23 2021 11: 38
                  -5
                  Quote: Tatiana
                  concentration of NATO armed forces near Russian borders

                  This is exaggerated, of course. Can the Kaliningrad semi-exclave be suspected of a threat, although again it is exaggerated. In general, there is no concentration of troops on either the territory of Poland or the Baltic states. Are Poland itself and the Baltic operetta "hordes" also members of the alliance? A real, combat group is deployed in Germany, as it was, and it is. And its transfer to Poland, etc. is not provided. Teachings? Well, we learned and got out. Did you want to enter Minsk on the sly? Well, it didn't work out, the conspiracy fell through. Therefore, there is no panic, and the Russian Federation does not sit on the saddle exactly, but trains, transfers powerful compounds in a short time. Equipped with the latest technology, well, there are hypersonic missiles, super torpedoes and combat lasers. And as for whoever hits first, this is the first time a situation is emerging that the Russian Federation is capable of it. In the arms race, the USSR has always caught up, and now the Russian Federation has taken the lead technologically. Therefore - it is they who need to grieve. But they are not suicidal either. At least since the Fulton speech, there has been no war between us and NATO.
                  1. Tatyana
                    Tatyana April 23 2021 14: 00
                    0
                    Quote: hrych
                    This is exaggerated, of course. Can the Kaliningrad semi-exclave be suspected of a threat, although again it is exaggerated. In general, there is no concentration of troops on either the territory of Poland or the Baltic states. Are Poland itself and the Baltic operetta "hordes" also members of the alliance?
                    This is not soothing.
                    The case of the alleged virtual struggle of NATO countries near the Russian borders with an even more virtual "Russian aggression" under Trump continues by inertia and now - with renewed vigor - under Joe Biden.

                    Photo of American special forces in Estonia after a NATO exercise there in 2017 near the Estonian border against the backdrop of the Ivan-city fortress on the Russian side.

                    And in 2019, a Secret American military base was found on the territory of Estonia.
                    Journalists, who have found mention of the contract for the maintenance of the base in open Pentagon documents, cannot reveal the location of this classified object, but they said that millions of dollars were allocated for the construction of a training camp, which includes a barracks, a shooting range, an armory and a warehouse for drying parachutes.
                    "This facility is designed to provide the necessary planning of operations with the participation of personnel, is designed to store weapons and technical equipment in a safe environment, as well as to train personnel," the US government said in a document.

                    As reported by ETV, citing US Army Colonel, senior European special forces officer Kevin Stringer, a special forces unit of the US Army has been in Estonia since 2014, after the annexation of Crimea by Russia. “Our operations often require expansion of existing facilities,” Stringer said, noting that command of the US special forces unit in Estonia is entrusted to the leadership of US special operations in Stuttgart.
                    Completely the base should be completed in 2020. Information about how many people are included in the unit is a state secret.

                    See more - Secret US military base found in Estonia (VIDEO) -
                    https://www.newsru.com/world/05sep2019/esti_usa.html

                    It must be assumed that in other countries on the border with Russia we have the same thing as in Estonia. Those. NATO exercises are held there - the equipment after the exercises remains there and accumulates, and the military infrastructure is also created there for NATO troops.
                    1. Shurik70
                      Shurik70 April 23 2021 19: 52
                      0
                      This is they in response to the video how "Lancet" destroys a Turkish drone
              2. Vol4ara
                Vol4ara April 23 2021 14: 34
                +3
                Quote: hrych
                Quote: Tatiana
                in the West they no longer hide their preparations for a military strike against Russia

                Well, starting with the Fulton speech, they don't hide it. In this case, both the UAV and the Pantsir are rivals on the battlefield of local conflicts. And in part, this Turkish advertisement is a recognition of the merits of Pantsir. The vaunted Beyraktar on the Shell broke his teeth and broke ...

                The price is not comparable + people die in shells, and glands in bayraktars. Yes, even if you hit 5 of them, and the 6th will finish you off and you are already in a huge minus
            2. rocket757
              rocket757 April 23 2021 10: 47
              +6
              Everything rests on one, but the most important factor, vigorous arguments, the possibility of their application from our side.
              While no one and nothing can prevent this, for sure, the fuss, around the bush, will continue.
              We must remember that this is not forever and do what it should.
              1. Intruder
                Intruder April 23 2021 11: 25
                0
                Everything rests on one, but the most important factor, vigorous arguments, the possibility of their application from our side.
                These are potential arguments and in most cases are not applicable and not acceptable, in order to be used, they are very good for that - international grounds, minor local conflicts with the opposition, albeit armed and the fight against international terrorism, have not given and still do not give such grounds, Fortunately!!!
                1. rocket757
                  rocket757 April 23 2021 11: 33
                  0
                  Serious arguments only as a last resort.
            3. Israel
              Israel April 24 2021 12: 20
              0
              Unfortunately, the West is no longer hiding its preparations for a military strike on Russia, and the Western media are considering various ways to start a war with Russia with the supposedly obligatory defeat of Russia and its weapons in this war.

              A normal statement in the spirit of Kiselev / Solovyov at a lecture for collective farmers. But summer residents immediately have questions, why does the West need it? And if the West (by the way, who is it) is preparing to strike at Russia, why can't it attack Iran, North Korea, China? The last three have incomparably less forces for a retaliatory strike, even taken together, than Russia.
              The world has always been ruled by the economy and now the economy is such that starting a big war with Russia is generally pointless, people will not go to Russia en masse from the “West”, Russia supplies resources regularly, Germany even builds SP2, despite all the hysteria of the Americans. I repeat, Russia is on the same level as the Czech Republic and Poland in terms of exports.
          2. rocket757
            rocket757 April 23 2021 10: 49
            +2
            Complex counteraction is always the most effective.
          3. Intruder
            Intruder April 23 2021 11: 17
            +1
            Only the mobility of the target will help here.
            On a dive, MAM-T will have more than 100 km / h, and "Pantsir-S", on a KamAZ-6560 or MAN-SX45 chassis, how many it has, and even on rough terrain !?
            1. Magog_
              Magog_ April 23 2021 12: 03
              +3
              "Pantsir-S" is a weapon of defense of the nearest zone. All sorts of gliding bombs and small winged vehicles - his specialization! The shell finishes off what has broken through at the boundaries of greater distance and height ... So, the video for children's computer games is quite pulling.
            2. loki565
              loki565 April 23 2021 13: 22
              +2
              On a dive, MAM-T will have more than 100 km / h, and "Pantsir-S", on a KamAZ-6560 or MAN-SX45 chassis, how many it has, and even on rough terrain !?

              What does the speed of the carapace have to do with it? To hit the target, you need to illuminate it with a laser, the UAV itself will not be able to do this, since 30 km is too much for this. To aim on GPS, again, someone must make reconnaissance and give the coordinates.
              1. Intruder
                Intruder April 24 2021 03: 49
                -1
                To hit the target, it must be illuminated with a laser, the UAV itself will not be able to do this, since 30 km is too much for this. To aim by GPS, again, someone must make reconnaissance and give the coordinates.
                What ??? You speak so confidently about the Akinci airborne targeting stations and the functionality of this gliding ammunition bully ... In your words, "rake in honey - with a bucket" !!!
                1. Intruder
                  Intruder April 24 2021 04: 01
                  0
                  To the heap, about 30 km, which is "too much", a rough example from the public:
                  Ultra Extreme long range human detection with SPI Thermal Infrared Imaging IR FLIR PTZ Cameras, this long range thermal camera Imagery is acquired at night time, the distance is 15 miles. SPi offers extreme long range human, vehicle detection ranges. Inquire with SPI for custom CMOS, SCMOS, I2, CCD, LOW LIGHT LEVEL, NIR, SWIR, LWIR, MWIR affordable HD PTZ Imaging camera solutions that are custom built for your exact application.

                  and this is already 6 years ago, the technologies are massive !!!
                  1. Intruder
                    Intruder April 24 2021 04: 28
                    -1
                    Or, already in 2020 and again a civil decision:
            3. K-36
              K-36 April 23 2021 14: 41
              +2
              Uv. Intruder, I have to notice that here (...On a dive, MAM-T will have more than 100 km / h,) you have a clear knowledge gap. I dare to assure you that a parachutist with a weight of 94 kg can easily accelerate on a dive to a speed of 200 km / h. You just need to stand on the stake and stretch your arms at the seams. And ... voila! Here's a speed of 200 km / h
              hi
              1. Intruder
                Intruder April 24 2021 03: 46
                0
                I dare to assure you that a parachutist with a weight of 94 kg can easily accelerate on a dive to a speed of 200 km / h. You just need to stand on the stake and stretch your arms at the seams. And ... voila! Here's a speed of 200 km / h
                Imagine - I know this myself, dear K-36 yes ! Therefore, I wrote about more than 100 km / h! Therefore, the speed of a ground target, especially the wheelbase of a mobile air defense complex, such as "Pantsir-S / xx" and analogues - there, just nowhere and there is nothing ... laughing
            4. Cheshire
              Cheshire April 23 2021 16: 29
              0
              Quote: Intruder
              Only the mobility of the target will help here.
              On a dive, MAM-T will have more than 100 km / h, and "Pantsir-S", on a KamAZ-6560 or MAN-SX45 chassis, how many it has, and even on rough terrain !?

              Who offers to dodge the bomb? There, special forces make laser illumination. On a moving target, with a synchronized bomb response? I do not believe! GPS coordinates also fly off.
              1. Intruder
                Intruder April 24 2021 04: 07
                0
                Who offers to dodge the bomb?

                Dear comrade - Cheshire (Maxim) Yesterday, 09:55 ... wink
                1. Cheshire
                  Cheshire April 24 2021 07: 11
                  0
                  hi
                  Sir, you would have bothered to re-read my comment, nowhere did I suggest doing something so useless from my point of view. I am sorry if you have such an impression on the basis of what you have read. Henceforth, I realized for myself that people tend to think out for me at the level of their own knowledge (. I will try to write more detailed and detailed comments.
              2. Intruder
                Intruder April 24 2021 09: 01
                -1
                Who offers to dodge the bomb? There, special forces make laser illumination. On a moving target, with a synchronized bomb response? I do not believe
                That is, "I am not me and the cow is not mine" !? Isn't it your comment:
                Only the mobility of the target will help here.
                ?? laughing wink
        2. OgnennyiKotik
          OgnennyiKotik April 23 2021 09: 56
          -6
          Quote: rocket757
          Destroy media ahead of time!

          The only problem is that the MAM-T has a range of 30+ km (from fighters even more than 60-80 + km). Pantsir-C1 has a range of less than 20 km. Pantsir-SM the declared range of destruction is up to 40 km, while what altitude the target will have is not clear.
          The new bombs can be carried by Anka, which has been in the series for several years.


          And the aksungur which is on its way


          In theory Bayraktar TB-2S, the default TB-3 should.
          1. ioan-e
            ioan-e April 23 2021 10: 16
            +15
            Quote: OgnennyiKotik
            The only problem is that the MAM-T has a range of 30+ km (from fighters even more than 60-80 + km). Pantsir-C1 has a range of less than 20 km. Pantsir-SM the declared range of destruction is up to 40 km, while what altitude the target will have is not clear.

            The problem of the Turks is that "Pantsir" in the Russian army should not and does not work alone! It is the last line of defense, before it the "guests" must be met by the S-300/400, then the S-350 or BUK-M2 / M3, and only then the Pantsir or Thor! And there you still need to check how he will deal with this ammunition, because he constantly knocks down MLRS shells in Syria, and their EPR is less than that of this winged blank, and the speed is higher! The times of knightly tournaments "one-on-one" are long gone and there is no need to pull out the components of the systems and compare them with each other, like spherical tanks in a vacuum, this is not right! It was only the antediluvian leaders who had the feeling that they bought the wunderwaffe and that happiness has come to you, because by its mere appearance it will thrill the enemies, and there is no need to do anything. History has long proved that it is not armies that are fighting, that the economies of countries or unions of countries are at war!
            PS And the cartoons of the Turks are clumsy for the 21st century!
            1. rocket757
              rocket757 April 23 2021 10: 59
              +3
              Nobody wants to really show, because not everything turns out so beautifully! Advertising is pretty much a deliberate lie !!! One gate play.
              Nothing new in general.
            2. spirit
              spirit April 23 2021 12: 45
              +3
              You obviously did not understand for whom you filmed the video) Well, what echeloned air defense? Whoever has it can be counted on the fingers! Even the Saudis, with their money, cannot even build a competent system! everyone uses what they have, some have shells, some beech, some patriots trying to shoot down Chinese drones)
              So this video is just for third countries of the world. hi
              1. ioan-e
                ioan-e April 23 2021 12: 56
                -1
                Quote: spirit
                You obviously do not understand for whom you filmed the video) hi

                Yes, I perfectly understand for whom and for what purpose the video was shot. Another upsetting thing is that on this resource, as well as in life in general, there are too many people with completely absent critical thinking, who were shown a beautiful video, and they, with truly sectarian enthusiasm, immediately elevate the advertising object to the rank of an invincible miracle of weapon! Unfortunately, the information war cannot be won with such a contingent! Or just banal trolls! hi
              2. Andylw
                Andylw April 23 2021 15: 25
                +5
                Quote: spirit
                Well, what echeloned air defense? Whoever has it can be counted on the fingers!

                for example, Armenia
                Russian s-300, beeches and tori, needles, willows, arrows + electronic warfare podberezovik
                made in Russia
                apart from the Soviet trash
                UAVs cut them into a walnut beautifully ...
            3. Intruder
              Intruder April 24 2021 09: 09
              0
              Well, yes
              how will he deal with these ammunition, because he constantly knocks down MLRS shells in Syria, and they have less EPR
              , their dimensions are different in comparison, even with a caliber of 122 mm .:





          2. Yuri V.A
            Yuri V.A April 23 2021 10: 37
            -3
            With the massive combat use of drones over the past couple of years, have there been cases of detection and destruction of UAV control centers?
            1. ioan-e
              ioan-e April 23 2021 11: 08
              +6
              Quote: Yuri V.A.
              With the massive combat use of drones over the past couple of years, have there been cases of detection and destruction of UAV control centers?

              And drones were used against an enemy with a comparable technological level? That's that! You are again comparing the war of the machine gun against bows and crossbows!
              1. Yuri V.A
                Yuri V.A April 23 2021 11: 41
                -3
                Here, the gag about "again" should not be carried to the masses, and there are enough cases of using UAVs of comparable sides in Libya and Syria. If you have nothing to say, then hold on to your universal answer.
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          3. rocket757
            rocket757 April 23 2021 11: 18
            +4
            And against whom were the controlled UAVs used ??? So you have to ask them.
          4. alexmach
            alexmach April 23 2021 12: 35
            +1
            With the massive combat use of drones over the past couple of years, have there been cases of detection and destruction of UAV control centers?

            There were. The Israeli attacks on the T4 base were rumored to be motivated, among other things, by the fact that there is a command post for Iranian UAVs.
            1. Yuri V.A
              Yuri V.A April 23 2021 13: 12
              0
              Mersey, but in this case the location is quite predictable, still a large airfield. Another thing is interesting, whether there are developments to quickly track the centers before the start of the drone attack.
              1. alexmach
                alexmach April 23 2021 14: 37
                0
                Another thing is interesting, are there any developments to quickly track the centers before the start of the drone attack?

                most likely, no one will voice such detailed details, but nevertheless, they hardly beat them at random, most likely they tracked down the source of control signals, and they hit targets not only on T4. In addition, there were no reports of Israeli drone attacks, even according to the descriptions of those situations - they simply noticed an unknown drone (s) approaching the airspace, and in fact tracked where it was controlled from.

                But there is a caveat - all this works only if there is a direct communication channel with the UAV. And the same drones in the video above, judging by the shape, have a satellite communication antenna. And with it, tracking the operator is orders of magnitude more difficult, and he can be out of reach.
                1. Yuri V.A
                  Yuri V.A April 23 2021 15: 16
                  0
                  The reach of the operator of the main types of UAVs is not such a difficult task, for the same Bayraktar, the control radius is indicated at 150 km, but to track the source of the control signal seems to be a question. In 2018, when a dozen drones of the Khmeimim base were attacked, they could not do this, they blamed the American P-8 Poseidon.
        3. rocket757
          rocket757 April 23 2021 10: 57
          +3
          And air defense should be limited only to near-field systems? On a plane, you can use a more solid rocket, more expensive to use.
          What is this manner, to oppose one to the other, which does not correspond to the range of tasks performed? Both strike systems and defensive systems are divided according to the range of their use!
          If you want to compare, choose the appropriate one if your opponents have it, of course.
        4. alexmach
          alexmach April 23 2021 12: 33
          0
          The only problem is that the MAM-T has a range of 30+ km (from fighters even more than 60-80 + km).

          In theory, it does, but what kind of guidance system does this device have? Does the shiny plaque hint at the target's laser illumination? Or inertia + positioning system?
          1. OgnennyiKotik
            OgnennyiKotik April 23 2021 12: 35
            0
            Quote: alexmach
            Does the shiny plaque hint at the target's laser illumination? Or inertia + positioning system?

            All 3.
            1. alexmach
              alexmach April 23 2021 12: 42
              +2
              In general, the thing is definitely useful. Another variation on the SDB theme. With the Shell, they certainly got a little excited. Still, it should be very difficult to hit a working air defense system with a single gliding bomb (low-speed and flying at high altitude) and even requiring illumination of the target.

              Our some 500 kilogram monsters sculpt
              1. OgnennyiKotik
                OgnennyiKotik April 23 2021 12: 56
                0
                However, they dealt with shells with much more modest bombs. Naturally, everything does not happen like in animation. A much larger outfit of strength is needed. Pantsir-C1 works very poorly against subtle low-speed targets, I hope this has been fixed in the CM version.
                They had variations on the SDB before, but there is a version for the UAV and the weight was reduced below 100 kg. Before that, they developed the Miniature Bomb but the weight was 140 kg. You can't hang it on the same Karayel-SU.
        5. K-36
          K-36 April 23 2021 14: 50
          +3
          H. OgnennyiKotik... Can you tell me from what height the UAV should drop this MAM-T so that it flew 30 km (from the drop point)? For example, it is quite obvious to me that this figure (drop height) will change a lot of opinions about the effectiveness of using MAM-T precisely from the UAV
          hi
          1. OgnennyiKotik
            OgnennyiKotik April 23 2021 15: 02
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            I don't know the exact numbers, but it should definitely be in the troposphere, which means ± 10 km. Principle like any other aircraft.
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      3. Olgovich
        Olgovich April 23 2021 10: 40
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        Quote: rocket757
        There is a good such rule in air defense. Destroy the media in advance !!!

        and present war, UAV launch airfields will be destroyed in one of the first stages
        1. Intruder
          Intruder April 23 2021 11: 18
          0
          and in a real war, UAV launch airfields will be destroyed in one of the first stages
          "What did you do last summer ..." !? laughing wink
        2. rocket757
          rocket757 April 23 2021 11: 24
          +1
          Plans, intentions, opportunities .... it is not possible to check now to confirm / deny much of the stated!
          There are no conflicts of this level of equipping opponents, determination and other things.
          Better, so be it, however.
      4. Boa kaa
        Boa kaa April 23 2021 22: 07
        +1
        Quote: rocket757
        Ammunition is becoming smarter, more effective, this is a reality.

        This is true. Gliding "bombs" with an opto-electronic guidance system are especially dangerous: no dvigun - no IR signature, no seeker based on radar - no pre-emptive detection by an EMR burst ... You can only find it in active mode or OLS ... -It's time for me to put a KAZ mortar with a cloud of striking elements on each Armor, as a means of last resort. And the fact that they should be guarded by fighters with MANPADS is beyond doubt. By criterion - "Cost / efficiency".
        IMHO.
      5. Alexander Vorontsov
        Alexander Vorontsov April 25 2021 00: 00
        0
        Quote: rocket757
        Ammunition is becoming smarter, more effective, this is a reality.
        There is a good such rule in air defense. Destroy the media in advance !!! then nothing will fly at you.

        It is impossible to destroy the carrier in advance if the range does not allow.
        And there are countries that cannot afford air defense more than a shell.
    2. Barberry25
      Barberry25 April 23 2021 21: 01
      0
      laughing the problem is something else ... ok, the range is 30 km, it can hit C1 if it does not detect the ammunition ... But here is another question ... And how to issue the central control unit? Something I do not believe in the optical and laser system of the Turks with a range of 30 km, therefore it is necessary to calculate from the current conditions i.e. 10 km, and if you remember that Akinchi is a drin with a wingspan of 20 meters and a height of 4 meters, and with 2 engines ... then on the radars it will glow like ... rearmament ...
    3. Atlas
      Atlas April 24 2021 11: 51
      0
      This Akinchi itself is an excellent target because it is very large and relatively slow. If not the Shell, the Beech and Thor will land it without straining. Air defense we have, thank God, layered. And I think it will be no worse over Donbass
    4. Israel
      Israel April 24 2021 12: 23
      0
      On Akıncı it is already "not a pity" to use С300 / 400.
  2. Lech from Android.
    Lech from Android. April 23 2021 09: 06
    +9
    Well, as the Azerbadzians gutted the Armenians in Karabakh with drones, this is the best advertisement.
    Of course, if you are such gouges, then you can defeat the enemy with a simple club.
    1. huntsman650
      huntsman650 April 23 2021 19: 07
      0
      They didn't have BUKs. Syrians with BUKami closed the sky in Idlib (Irdogan asked not to advertise)
  3. keeper03
    keeper03 April 23 2021 09: 58
    +1
    You can defend your interests, but at the same time destroy on the video Patriot's, but Erdogan is not in his repertoire! wassat
    Well, let's wait for our retaliatory move! soldier
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    2. Atlas
      Atlas April 24 2021 11: 53
      0
      Whom they are most afraid of is overpowered))))
  4. cniza
    cniza April 23 2021 11: 41
    +2
    Quote: rocket757
    In Turkey, a new ammunition for drones was presented with a video about the destruction of the Pantsir-S air defense missile system
    ... The advertisement is engine of the trade ...
    They want to compete with the best, the most dangerous, this is also understandable.


    Let them pay us for advertising use. yes
    1. rocket757
      rocket757 April 23 2021 12: 09
      +1
      Everything there is ambiguous ... with our means, weapons, their army, and therefore the military budget, are being cut ... the Sultan is unlikely to like it.
      But the most important thing for arms manufacturers is that the state buys more and more.
      1. cniza
        cniza April 23 2021 12: 11
        +2
        I'm talking about the manufacturers of weapons, and the Sultan wants to be too clever ...
        1. rocket757
          rocket757 April 23 2021 12: 36
          +1
          Sultan, he must be ... versatile.
          1. cniza
            cniza April 23 2021 15: 13
            +2
            Oh yes, he walks in different directions at the same time ...
            1. rocket757
              rocket757 April 23 2021 15: 15
              +1
              Ha, he is so cunning that he wants to make each side HIS OWN!
              1. cniza
                cniza April 23 2021 15: 18
                +2
                He already considers her his, moreover, he never blinks an eye ...
                1. rocket757
                  rocket757 April 23 2021 15: 20
                  +1
                  Eastern politician, they are like that ... until the truncation of something important loomed to him, he will never give up clinging to tsuzoe.
                  1. cniza
                    cniza April 23 2021 16: 06
                    +4
                    Uh-huh, the girth of the arms increases significantly ...
  • Mitroha
    Mitroha April 23 2021 09: 02
    +6
    Well, Erdogan's son-in-law is allowed a lot in Turkey. Our MO should also release a video about renaming Istanbul to Constantinople and returning to the owner
    1. Volodin
      Volodin April 23 2021 09: 09
      +11
      Quote: Mitroha
      renaming Istanbul to Constantinople and returning to its owner

      Byzantium?))
      1. Ka-52
        Ka-52 April 23 2021 09: 15
        +12
        Byzantium?))

        the main ethnic groups in Byzantium were Greeks and Armenians - Turkey's favorite enemies wassat
        1. keeper03
          keeper03 April 23 2021 09: 59
          +1
          The Armenians would be delighted! yes good
        2. Suleyman
          Suleyman April 23 2021 17: 24
          0
          Byzantium and Armenians? laughing
    2. prior
      prior April 23 2021 09: 16
      0
      Expansion of the Bosphorus Strait with the help of "Kuzkina Mother"
      also looks very promising. laughing
      1. novel66
        novel66 April 23 2021 09: 26
        +6
        and another strait .. is needed ..
        1. swnvaleria
          swnvaleria April 23 2021 10: 19
          +3
          yeah, and the british trench in the atlantic ocean
        2. Intruder
          Intruder April 23 2021 11: 19
          +1
          and another strait .. is needed ..
          exclusively in dreams, eh they are so beautiful !? And there is still no strait ... laughing bully
    3. donavi49
      donavi49 April 23 2021 09: 42
      +13
      Erdogan's son-in-law is allowed a lot in Turkey


      1) The article is not about Akinchi at all, but about a new product from Roketsan, which will be hung on both the F-16 and Vestel (other private UAV manufacturers) and TAI (Anka). Seljuk has nothing to do with it. He just hung this ammunition under his UAV.
      2) Personally, I would not mind if another son-in-law, matchmaker, lover did not build a palace, did not withdraw money, did not pick up some kind of super-efficient direction, but built from scratch a completely advanced assembly plant, with robots, the latest machine tools , stands and test facilities. I think you too. wink
      1. Mitroha
        Mitroha April 23 2021 16: 58
        0
        Quote: donavi49
        Personally, I would not mind if another son-in-law, matchmaker, lover did not build a palace, did not withdraw money, did not pick up some super-efficient direction, but built from scratch a completely advanced assembly plant, with robots, the latest machine tools, stands and a testing base. I think you too.

        Well, for example, now a plant for the production of UAVs is being built in Russia, and not even a son-in-law, matchmaker, lover, but just businessmen. What's wrong? hi
        1. donavi49
          donavi49 April 23 2021 21: 25
          +1
          Well, their former parent company was brutally stabbed to death. Russian business, he is. As it is, the private trader has 45% of the world market for marine simulators and cartographic systems. This is not order. And where is Transas now? Quickly it was cut into parts, something was bought by the Finns for ridiculous money, something was buried, Kronstadt miraculously survived.
  • vl903
    vl903 April 23 2021 09: 03
    +2
    thanks to the Turks for advertising the shell. apparently a patriot and some kind of American mobile air defense system they no longer consider as a worthy enemy
  • Russobel
    Russobel April 23 2021 09: 05
    +1
    Something Turkestanis are priborzel, it would be necessary to show them a video of how "Sarmat" strikes Ankara ...
  • Popandos
    Popandos April 23 2021 09: 06
    +6
    Well, by this the Turks confirm that "Pantsir" is a serious adversary, because advertisements will not show how the ammunition hits an easily vulnerable target.
  • APASUS
    APASUS April 23 2021 09: 21
    +6
    Judging by the commercial, the Turks very seriously attach importance to the Pantsir-S air defense missile system and combat qualities
  • venik
    venik April 23 2021 09: 21
    +12
    A beautiful cartoon .... Alas, only a cartoon! In Idlib, just the opposite happened .... Both with the "Bayraktars" and with the "Anki" ....


    That's all I think: maybe the junior can be strained (How "Armor" - "Bayraktarov" land .... he is my programmer - he also knows how to draw not such "cartoons"!)) .... Just WHY? Well, the Turks like to think that they are "cooler than boiled eggs" - well, let them amuse themselves .... Like kids in a sandbox!
    1. Intruder
      Intruder April 23 2021 11: 21
      +1
      he is my programmer - he can draw not such "cartoons" yet! ))
      I hope I haven't forgotten programming while drawing "cartoons" !? (Joke and no sarcasm) drinks
      1. venik
        venik April 23 2021 17: 25
        +2
        Quote: Intruder
        I hope I haven't forgotten programming while drawing "cartoons" !? (Joke and no sarcasm)

        =======
        No, Denis! (by the way - welcome! hi ).
        He makes a living with me by this: he creates "toys" for smartphones ... And he does not even make money very well! The elder then worked in the "box". Recently left: the salary is scanty, and his two daughters are growing!
        Such is the crap it turns out .... Dad and I hunched over to the Country all our lives (though we earned normally)! Once they even crossed paths at the test site - that was a laugh! And children - like this ... request
  • Xnumx vis
    Xnumx vis April 23 2021 09: 22
    +1
    In Russian, the word Turk A synonym for a very stupid, not distant person ...
    1. ioan-e
      ioan-e April 23 2021 10: 21
      +3
      Quote: 30 vis
      In Russian, the word Turk A synonym for a very stupid, not distant person ...

      And also malicious and vile, not observing any agreements and ready to stick a knife in the back!
  • Holuay T.O
    Holuay T.O April 23 2021 09: 30
    -26%
    The shell is simply untenable against Turkish UAVs, it's a pity that ours continue to buy this crap
  • Skay
    Skay April 23 2021 09: 32
    +9
    And the Carapace in the video just stood there weak and did nothing ... request
    1. Semyonich from the Urals
      Semyonich from the Urals April 23 2021 09: 35
      -16%
      Curvature of the earth, what to do
      1. ioan-e
        ioan-e April 23 2021 10: 23
        +5
        Quote: Semyonich from the Urals
        Curvature of the earth, what to do

        And you, apparently, lack of elementary education, in particular, the basics of geography and physics!
  • TatarinSSSR
    TatarinSSSR April 23 2021 09: 33
    +12
    What difference does it make what is shown as targets ?! Does Russia Trade in Arms? Yes. Russia asks permission from Turkey, whether to sell these weapons to its opponents? Not. This weapon, respectively, can be in service with Turkey's opponents? Yes. So why can't the video be shown as a target? Can. Is there a Russian flag on the Pantsir-S target? Not. There are no markings. And the fact that the arms manufacturer is Russia - so sorry, competition, the world of capitalism. What kind of eternal friendship, what does the author write about, what vows, who gave them and to whom where? In which interstate agreement is this spelled out point by point? It's time to forget about friendship 25 years ago. There is no such thing anymore. In this world, there are only beneficial alliances, often temporary. There is neutrality. And there is submission to the stronger and richer. Now Turkey is now a friend, now a traitor, now a brother, now an enemy. It all depends on the benefits, not on some kind of friendship.
  • Prisoner
    Prisoner April 23 2021 09: 35
    +13
    laughing Offended that the "Lancet" was struck on "Bayraktar"
  • Yrec
    Yrec April 23 2021 09: 37
    +3
    The Turkish state (I'm not talking about ordinary Turks) has always been hostile to us. Any "friendship" with him is a purely opportunistic phenomenon. Erdogan is a master of changing shoes in the air, an absolutely unprincipled type. He will end up badly.
    1. Vasily Terkin_2
      Vasily Terkin_2 April 23 2021 11: 11
      0
      Why then did the conjuncture in our country develop into state policy?
  • Ilya098
    Ilya098 April 23 2021 09: 43
    +10
    New ammunition in Turkey

    Then you need to shoot a video, where Petrov and Boshirov, by analogy with the Czech Republic, a warehouse with these miraculous ammunition is blown up laughing
  • Puler
    Puler April 23 2021 10: 10
    0
    Wet oriental yams ....
  • no better place for
    no better place for April 23 2021 10: 15
    0
    For some reason, everyone is outraged that the role of a target is a shell, but for some reason they rejoiced a week ago in a cartoon where Bayraktar was the target. It's just a response. Moreover, both Libya and Syria have shells, and several other countries
    1. Vasily Terkin_2
      Vasily Terkin_2 April 23 2021 11: 09
      0
      Fair.
  • Roman 57 rus
    Roman 57 rus April 23 2021 10: 27
    0
    With the S-400 (500!), How far will this UAV fly from the airfield? And will there be airfields, if the enemy has an OTRK (Iskander).
    1. Vasily Terkin_2
      Vasily Terkin_2 April 23 2021 11: 08
      -4
      At a distance of 150 km, how many radio horizons does the S-400 have without a low-altitude illumination tower? 300-500 meters .... and everything below he does not see, like a blind-ball Pew .... that is, for a low-speed UAV, there is enough space for an approach at an ultra-low height of up to 10 m and a sudden impact. Towers in frontal conditions are a utopia and a wonderful target, so you can't do without regimental air defense systems
      1. Roman 57 rus
        Roman 57 rus April 23 2021 11: 33
        +1
        And what is the radio horizon ?? And what the radar will do from 50 meters, to whom it will fly at a distance of using weapons with impunity for itself, except for the bearded boys in Idlib (and that is not a fact), and they are their own.
    2. Vasily Terkin_2
      Vasily Terkin_2 April 23 2021 11: 10
      -3
      What nafig airfield for Bayraktar weighing half a ton?
  • Gregory Charnota
    Gregory Charnota April 23 2021 10: 37
    +2
    it means that the shells were given to the Turkish drones to light a cigarette if they made a special rocket
    1. Vasily Terkin_2
      Vasily Terkin_2 April 23 2021 11: 01
      -2
      It's just that Roketsan has people with a commercial bias, with a commercial vein and are very sensitive to the reputation and demand for their products. Unlike our companions, the Turks would have been able to make money. And then they made a seemingly successful complex and now they have been stamping it for 30 years all over the ball ..... not those times today, gentlemen gunsmiths! And if you want your products to be really effective in the real battle of technology, you need to act in the 21st century with lightning speed and keep your ears open!
  • huntsman650
    huntsman650 April 23 2021 10: 47
    0
    Carapace, carapace, and here once and beech))) drone knock knock)))
  • rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 April 23 2021 10: 48
    +3
    video created using computer graphics ...
    The Turks have chosen just such a marketing move because the Russian "Pantsir" air defense system is on everyone's lips and is being bought. And of course to show, supposedly, their "superiority" on a possible battlefield. Of course disgusting, but in their opinion "business and nothing more." Maybe, without any graphics, it was worth launching a video with the wreckage of a propagated Turkish UAV in Libya and not only?
    1. Vasily Terkin_2
      Vasily Terkin_2 April 23 2021 11: 02
      -2
      Can we learn marketing from the Turks?
      1. iouris
        iouris April 23 2021 14: 18
        +1
        "We" generally need to study, study, study and study. Only laziness.
  • Vasily Terkin_2
    Vasily Terkin_2 April 23 2021 10: 54
    -2
    If there was a second option, I think Aliyev would not be creating a walk of fame in Baku now, but would be chewing a tie under Pashinyan's table.
  • International Observer
    International Observer April 23 2021 10: 58
    0
    In principle, nothing else could be expected from the Turks ..

    In response, it would be nice to show the documentary truth with a little statistics at the end of the video. If, of course, there is something to show.
  • cniza
    cniza April 23 2021 11: 39
    +1
    Therefore, it is hardly appropriate to be surprised that it is the Russian complex as the target in the video.


    We must ask for money from them, a share of the sale ... lol
  • aszzz888
    aszzz888 April 23 2021 11: 47
    +1
    A video created with the help of computer graphics has appeared on the Web, in which a Turkish drone strikes a Russian-made "Pantsir-S".

    you can draw anything
  • Maikcg
    Maikcg April 23 2021 13: 32
    -1
    The video does not show that the Carapace was standing empty, waiting to be reloaded, and the crew was drinking tea with gingerbread.
  • iouris
    iouris April 23 2021 14: 17
    0
    Will the Lancet fly to Bayraktar?
  • Emil Azeri
    Emil Azeri April 23 2021 14: 45
    -1
    I am very pleased with such innovations of the Turkish military-industrial complex. After all, the strengthening of the Turkish army and the military-industrial complex is the strengthening of Azerbaijan, incl.
    If in plain text, then the Turkish army is actually our army.
    In 2013, 3 corporations from two countries began to build the ACSA (Automatic Army Control System) of Azerbaijan. Turkish Aslesan, Israel's Tadiran Communication and Elbit System have taken over. As soon as the construction of the automated control system for individual troops was completed, the automated control system was built. Then this ASUA was connected to the ASUA of Turkey. And thus, from the command post of control of Turkey, they can also control the Azerbaijani army. Our air force (air defense including) is connected to the Turkish air force, our ground forces are also connected to the Turkish, thereby our army with the Turkish army has become a monolithic single Army. In order to actually consolidate this, we constantly conduct joint exercises of all types of troops, as soon as some exercises end, others begin, that is, joint exercises do not stop, they are constant. Sitting in the command post of Turkey, you can control the Azerbaijani army, or vice versa, with the command post of Azerbaijan, you can control the army of the two countries. Since 2015, our country has actually merged with Turkey, in fact, one country disguised as 2 separate countries. So I am very happy for our country, called Turkey, and such news from the military-industrial complex makes me very happy.
    1. Atlas
      Atlas April 24 2021 12: 03
      0
      Happy for you, but ...
      I have one question. Now with the Turks everything is more or less bearable, but If there is a hypothetically aggravation between the Russian Federation and Turkey right up to hostilities, then the Turkish General Staff will control your army too ???
      Or is it different ???
      1. Emil Azeri
        Emil Azeri April 24 2021 13: 06
        0
        Quote: Atlas
        but if there is a hypothetically aggravation between the Russian Federation and Turkey right up to hostilities, then the Turkish General Staff will control your army too ???

        I would really not like a military aggravation between Turkey and Russia, it is better to be friends and develop, why fight?
        But if we hypothetically assume this, then yes, they will control our army as well. Turkey and Azerbaijan are already one country, disguised as 2 separate countries. 2 countries are 2 voices in the international arena, this is an opportunity to play two-headed games in the region, therefore we act under the guise of two separate countries, so there are more advantages.
        But I wish all of us peace without war.
  • Kostadinov
    Kostadinov April 23 2021 17: 01
    0
    Quote: Cheshire
    Only the mobility of the target will help here. hi

    It will only help to shoot down Bayraktari and Anka with light piloted fighters. They are excellent targets for combat training aircraft.
    Better yet, destroy the control room.
  • Suleyman
    Suleyman April 23 2021 17: 26
    +1
    Quote: donavi49
    super efficient direction,

    super-profitable wanted to say?))
  • Oleg Salov
    Oleg Salov April 23 2021 18: 41
    0
    As already tired of these staged cartoons, it is already clear to everyone that if the Pantsir-S air defense missile system is on alert, then no UAV, no rockets and shells are afraid of him, and in cartoons you can do anything you want.
  • Outsider
    Outsider April 24 2021 19: 24
    0
    - However, the twin-engine UAV "Akinsi" ("Raider") is very large:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bayraktar_Ak%C4%B1nc%C4%B1#Specifications
    He will be shot down more successfully than the small, light and less noticeable Bayraktar TB2... In the place of the Turks, I would take care of increasing the carrying capacity of a small ...
  • Outsider
    Outsider April 24 2021 19: 28
    0
    Quote: Roman 57 rus
    With the S-400 (500!), How far will this UAV fly from the airfield? And will there be airfields, if the enemy has an OTRK (Iskander).

    - He's a very inconspicuous aircraft, eccentric. And you can make it even more inconspicuous, if you do not regret a little money on the RPM ...
  • Cheshire
    Cheshire April 25 2021 09: 25
    0
    Quote: Intruder
    That is, "I am not me and the cow is not mine" !? Isn't it your comment:
    Only the mobility of the target will help here.

    Here, in my opinion, there is a clinical case. But I hope for a favorable outcome fool