In Turkey, a new ammunition for drones was presented with a video about the destruction of the Pantsir-S air defense missile system

A video created with the help of computer graphics has appeared on the Web, in which a Turkish drone strikes a Russian-made "Pantsir-S". Thus, the Turkish company Roketsan held a "presentation" of its own ammunition for the unmanned aviation... It is noted that the ammunition is entirely national development.

The new Turkish drone Bayraktar Akinci, after the final test, will receive its own line of ammunition, the development of which is already being completed. The Turks have already tested an "intellectual" mini-bomb with dronedeclaring success. It is noted that the MAM family of ammunition was developed by the Turkish company Roketsan. As stated in the presentation, the ammunition is designed to destroy objects, sea and ground targets, including armored ones. TTX are not given.

Noteworthy is the video released by the company, in which the Russian Pantsir-S anti-aircraft missile-gun system (ZRPK) acts as the target for the new ammunition fired from the drone.

In principle, nothing else should have been expected from the Turks. Despite all the statements and oaths of Erdogan "in eternal friendship", Ankara, first of all, thinks about its own benefit, and not about Russia, which is quite understandable. They still remember last year's confrontation between Turkish Bayraktar TV2 drones and Russian Pantsir-S air defense systems in Libya, where, according to one source, Turkish drones defeated a "bunch" of "Shells", according to others, Russian "Shells" landed many Turkish drones. Therefore, it is hardly appropriate to be surprised that in the video it is the Russian complex as a target.

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[rocket757]

In Turkey, a new ammunition for drones was presented with a video about the destruction of the Pantsir-S air defense missile system

... The advertisement is engine of the trade ...
They want to compete with the best, the most dangerous, this is also understandable.

[OgnennyiKotik]

So they tested them in reality. On the new UAV Akinji.

MAM-T with UAV has a range of 30+, with F-16 60+ km; diameter 230 mm, length 1,4 meters, weight 94 kg. Laser guidance, GPS, inertial.

[rocket757]

Ammunition is becoming smarter, more effective, this is a reality.
There is a good such rule in air defense. Destroy the media in advance !!! then nothing will fly at you.

[Cheshire]

Only the mobility of the target will help here.

[Tatyana]

Quote: rocket757

They want to compete with the best, the most dangerous, this is also understandable.

Unfortunately, the West no longer conceals their preparations for a military strike against Russia, but Western media are considering various ways to start a war with Russia with the supposedly obligatory defeat of Russia and its weapons in this war.

As a result, all these active preparations for the war of the countries of the collective West - the United States and their satellites: NATO countries under the leadership of the Pentagon, including Turkey, ... - with Russia will someday FORCE the Russian Federation to a pre-emptive strike on them in TMV.

[hrych]

Quote: Tatiana

in the West they no longer hide their preparations for a military strike against Russia

Well, starting with the Fulton speech, they don't hide it. In this case, both the UAV and the Pantsir are rivals on the battlefield of local conflicts. And in part, this Turkish advertisement is a recognition of the merits of Pantsir. The vaunted Beyraktar on the Shell broke his teeth and broke ...

[Tatyana]

Quote: hrych

Well, starting with the Fulton speech, they don't hide it. In this case, both the UAV and the Armor are rivals on the battlefield of LOCAL conflicts.

Unfortunately, the attack of the collective West on Russia with the concentration of the NATO armed forces near the Russian borders cannot be equated only with LOCAL conflicts.
An analysis of the plans for a war between the West and Russia suggests that the West, in its scenarios for a war between the West and Russia, does not simply state or about the impossibility of Russia to win an unconditional victory over the aggressor, namely, either about the destruction of all parts of the RF Armed Forces up to the Urals, although this will cost NATO dearly in all respects.

For example, the Russian expert E. Efstafiev correctly assesses these scenarios of the West.

"Do you know what the biggest problem with these scripts is? In almost none of them we hit first. They are proceed from the assumption that we will wait until they begin to kill us "

[hrych]

Quote: Tatiana

concentration of NATO armed forces near Russian borders

This is exaggerated, of course. Can the Kaliningrad semi-exclave be suspected of a threat, although again it is exaggerated. In general, there is no concentration of troops on either the territory of Poland or the Baltic states. Are Poland itself and the Baltic operetta "hordes" also members of the alliance? A real, combat group is deployed in Germany, as it was, and it is. And its transfer to Poland, etc. is not provided. Teachings? Well, we learned and got out. Did you want to enter Minsk on the sly? Well, it didn't work out, the conspiracy fell through. Therefore, there is no panic, and the Russian Federation does not sit on the saddle exactly, but trains, transfers powerful compounds in a short time. Equipped with the latest technology, well, there are hypersonic missiles, super torpedoes and combat lasers. And as for whoever hits first, this is the first time a situation is emerging that the Russian Federation is capable of it. In the arms race, the USSR has always caught up, and now the Russian Federation has taken the lead technologically. Therefore - it is they who need to grieve. But they are not suicidal either. At least since the Fulton speech, there has been no war between us and NATO.

[Tatyana]

Quote: hrych

This is exaggerated, of course. Can the Kaliningrad semi-exclave be suspected of a threat, although again it is exaggerated. In general, there is no concentration of troops on either the territory of Poland or the Baltic states. Are Poland itself and the Baltic operetta "hordes" also members of the alliance?

This is not soothing.
The case of the alleged virtual struggle of NATO countries near the Russian borders with an even more virtual "Russian aggression" under Trump continues by inertia and now - with renewed vigor - under Joe Biden.

Photo of American special forces in Estonia after a NATO exercise there in 2017 near the Estonian border against the backdrop of the Ivan-city fortress on the Russian side.

And in 2019, a Secret American military base was found on the territory of Estonia.
Journalists, who have found mention of the contract for the maintenance of the base in open Pentagon documents, cannot reveal the location of this classified object, but they said that millions of dollars were allocated for the construction of a training camp, which includes a barracks, a shooting range, an armory and a warehouse for drying parachutes.
"This facility is designed to provide the necessary planning of operations with the participation of personnel, is designed to store weapons and technical equipment in a safe environment, as well as to train personnel," the US government said in a document.

As reported by ETV, citing US Army Colonel, senior European special forces officer Kevin Stringer, a special forces unit of the US Army has been in Estonia since 2014, after the annexation of Crimea by Russia. “Our operations often require expansion of existing facilities,” Stringer said, noting that command of the US special forces unit in Estonia is entrusted to the leadership of US special operations in Stuttgart.
Completely the base should be completed in 2020. Information about how many people are included in the unit is a state secret.

See more - Secret US military base found in Estonia (VIDEO) -
https://www.newsru.com/world/05sep2019/esti_usa.html

It must be assumed that in other countries on the border with Russia we have the same thing as in Estonia. Those. NATO exercises are held there - the equipment after the exercises remains there and accumulates, and the military infrastructure is also created there for NATO troops.

[Shurik70]

This is they in response to the video how "Lancet" destroys a Turkish drone

[Vol4ara]

Quote: hrych

Quote: Tatiana

in the West they no longer hide their preparations for a military strike against Russia

Well, starting with the Fulton speech, they don't hide it. In this case, both the UAV and the Pantsir are rivals on the battlefield of local conflicts. And in part, this Turkish advertisement is a recognition of the merits of Pantsir. The vaunted Beyraktar on the Shell broke his teeth and broke ...

The price is not comparable + people die in shells, and glands in bayraktars. Yes, even if you hit 5 of them, and the 6th will finish you off and you are already in a huge minus

[rocket757]

Everything rests on one, but the most important factor, vigorous arguments, the possibility of their application from our side.
While no one and nothing can prevent this, for sure, the fuss, around the bush, will continue.
We must remember that this is not forever and do what it should.

[Israel]

Unfortunately, the West is no longer hiding its preparations for a military strike on Russia, and the Western media are considering various ways to start a war with Russia with the supposedly obligatory defeat of Russia and its weapons in this war.

A normal statement in the spirit of Kiselev / Solovyov at a lecture for collective farmers. But summer residents immediately have questions, why does the West need it? And if the West (by the way, who is it) is preparing to strike at Russia, why can't it attack Iran, North Korea, China? The last three have incomparably less forces for a retaliatory strike, even taken together, than Russia.
The world has always been ruled by the economy and now the economy is such that starting a big war with Russia is generally pointless, people will not go to Russia en masse from the “West”, Russia supplies resources regularly, Germany even builds SP2, despite all the hysteria of the Americans. I repeat, Russia is on the same level as the Czech Republic and Poland in terms of exports.

[rocket757]

Complex counteraction is always the most effective.

[OgnennyiKotik]

Quote: rocket757

Destroy media ahead of time!

The only problem is that the MAM-T has a range of 30+ km (from fighters even more than 60-80 + km). Pantsir-C1 has a range of less than 20 km. Pantsir-SM the declared range of destruction is up to 40 km, while what altitude the target will have is not clear.
The new bombs can be carried by Anka, which has been in the series for several years.


And the aksungur which is on its way


In theory Bayraktar TB-2S, the default TB-3 should.

[ioan-e]

Quote: OgnennyiKotik

The only problem is that the MAM-T has a range of 30+ km (from fighters even more than 60-80 + km). Pantsir-C1 has a range of less than 20 km. Pantsir-SM the declared range of destruction is up to 40 km, while what altitude the target will have is not clear.

The problem of the Turks is that "Pantsir" in the Russian army should not and does not work alone! It is the last line of defense, before it the "guests" must be met by the S-300/400, then the S-350 or BUK-M2 / M3, and only then the Pantsir or Thor! And there you still need to check how he will deal with this ammunition, because he constantly knocks down MLRS shells in Syria, and their EPR is less than that of this winged blank, and the speed is higher! The times of knightly tournaments "one-on-one" are long gone and there is no need to pull out the components of the systems and compare them with each other, like spherical tanks in a vacuum, this is not right! It was only the antediluvian leaders who had the feeling that they bought the wunderwaffe and that happiness has come to you, because by its mere appearance it will thrill the enemies, and there is no need to do anything. History has long proved that it is not armies that are fighting, that the economies of countries or unions of countries are at war!
PS And the cartoons of the Turks are clumsy for the 21st century!

[rocket757]

Nobody wants to really show, because not everything turns out so beautifully! Advertising is pretty much a deliberate lie !!! One gate play.
Nothing new in general.

[spirit]

You obviously did not understand for whom you filmed the video) Well, what echeloned air defense? Whoever has it can be counted on the fingers! Even the Saudis, with their money, cannot even build a competent system! everyone uses what they have, some have shells, some beech, some patriots trying to shoot down Chinese drones)
So this video is just for third countries of the world.

[ioan-e]

Quote: spirit

You obviously do not understand for whom you filmed the video)

Yes, I perfectly understand for whom and for what purpose the video was shot. Another upsetting thing is that on this resource, as well as in life in general, there are too many people with completely absent critical thinking, who were shown a beautiful video, and they, with truly sectarian enthusiasm, immediately elevate the advertising object to the rank of an invincible miracle of weapon! Unfortunately, the information war cannot be won with such a contingent! Or just banal trolls!

[Andylw]

Quote: spirit

Well, what echeloned air defense? Whoever has it can be counted on the fingers!

for example, Armenia
Russian s-300, beeches and tori, needles, willows, arrows + electronic warfare podberezovik
made in Russia
apart from the Soviet trash
UAVs cut them into a walnut beautifully ...

[Yuri V.A]

With the massive combat use of drones over the past couple of years, have there been cases of detection and destruction of UAV control centers?

[ioan-e]

Quote: Yuri V.A.

With the massive combat use of drones over the past couple of years, have there been cases of detection and destruction of UAV control centers?

And drones were used against an enemy with a comparable technological level? That's that! You are again comparing the war of the machine gun against bows and crossbows!

[Yuri V.A]

Here, the gag about "again" should not be carried to the masses, and there are enough cases of using UAVs of comparable sides in Libya and Syria. If you have nothing to say, then hold on to your universal answer.

[rocket757]

And against whom were the controlled UAVs used ??? So you have to ask them.

[alexmach]

With the massive combat use of drones over the past couple of years, have there been cases of detection and destruction of UAV control centers?

There were. The Israeli attacks on the T4 base were rumored to be motivated, among other things, by the fact that there is a command post for Iranian UAVs.

[Yuri V.A]

Mersey, but in this case the location is quite predictable, still a large airfield. Another thing is interesting, whether there are developments to quickly track the centers before the start of the drone attack.

[alexmach]

Another thing is interesting, are there any developments to quickly track the centers before the start of the drone attack?

most likely, no one will voice such detailed details, but nevertheless, they hardly beat them at random, most likely they tracked down the source of control signals, and they hit targets not only on T4. In addition, there were no reports of Israeli drone attacks, even according to the descriptions of those situations - they simply noticed an unknown drone (s) approaching the airspace, and in fact tracked where it was controlled from.

But there is a caveat - all this works only if there is a direct communication channel with the UAV. And the same drones in the video above, judging by the shape, have a satellite communication antenna. And with it, tracking the operator is orders of magnitude more difficult, and he can be out of reach.

[Yuri V.A]

The reach of the operator of the main types of UAVs is not such a difficult task, for the same Bayraktar, the control radius is indicated at 150 km, but to track the source of the control signal seems to be a question. In 2018, when a dozen drones of the Khmeimim base were attacked, they could not do this, they blamed the American P-8 Poseidon.

[rocket757]

And air defense should be limited only to near-field systems? On a plane, you can use a more solid rocket, more expensive to use.
What is this manner, to oppose one to the other, which does not correspond to the range of tasks performed? Both strike systems and defensive systems are divided according to the range of their use!
If you want to compare, choose the appropriate one if your opponents have it, of course.

[alexmach]

The only problem is that the MAM-T has a range of 30+ km (from fighters even more than 60-80 + km).

In theory, it does, but what kind of guidance system does this device have? Does the shiny plaque hint at the target's laser illumination? Or inertia + positioning system?

[OgnennyiKotik]

Quote: alexmach

Does the shiny plaque hint at the target's laser illumination? Or inertia + positioning system?

All 3.

[alexmach]

In general, the thing is definitely useful. Another variation on the SDB theme. With the Shell, they certainly got a little excited. Still, it should be very difficult to hit a working air defense system with a single gliding bomb (low-speed and flying at high altitude) and even requiring illumination of the target.

Our some 500 kilogram monsters sculpt

[OgnennyiKotik]

However, they dealt with shells with much more modest bombs. Naturally, everything does not happen like in animation. A much larger outfit of strength is needed. Pantsir-C1 works very poorly against subtle low-speed targets, I hope this has been fixed in the CM version.
They had variations on the SDB before, but there is a version for the UAV and the weight was reduced below 100 kg. Before that, they developed the Miniature Bomb but the weight was 140 kg. You can't hang it on the same Karayel-SU.

[K-36]

H. OgnennyiKotik... Can you tell me from what height the UAV should drop this MAM-T so that it flew 30 km (from the drop point)? For example, it is quite obvious to me that this figure (drop height) will change a lot of opinions about the effectiveness of using MAM-T precisely from the UAV

[OgnennyiKotik]

I don't know the exact numbers, but it should definitely be in the troposphere, which means ± 10 km. Principle like any other aircraft.

[Olgovich]

Quote: rocket757

There is a good such rule in air defense. Destroy the media in advance !!!

and present war, UAV launch airfields will be destroyed in one of the first stages

[rocket757]

Plans, intentions, opportunities .... it is not possible to check now to confirm / deny much of the stated!
There are no conflicts of this level of equipping opponents, determination and other things.
Better, so be it, however.

[Boa kaa]

Quote: rocket757

Ammunition is becoming smarter, more effective, this is a reality.

This is true. Gliding "bombs" with an opto-electronic guidance system are especially dangerous: no dvigun - no IR signature, no seeker based on radar - no pre-emptive detection by an EMR burst ... You can only find it in active mode or OLS ... -It's time for me to put a KAZ mortar with a cloud of striking elements on each Armor, as a means of last resort. And the fact that they should be guarded by fighters with MANPADS is beyond doubt. By criterion - "Cost / efficiency".
IMHO.

[Alexander Vorontsov]

Quote: rocket757

Ammunition is becoming smarter, more effective, this is a reality.
There is a good such rule in air defense. Destroy the media in advance !!! then nothing will fly at you.

It is impossible to destroy the carrier in advance if the range does not allow.
And there are countries that cannot afford air defense more than a shell.

[Barberry25]

the problem is something else ... ok, the range is 30 km, it can hit C1 if it does not detect the ammunition ... But here is another question ... And how to issue the central control unit? Something I do not believe in the optical and laser system of the Turks with a range of 30 km, therefore it is necessary to calculate from the current conditions i.e. 10 km, and if you remember that Akinchi is a drin with a wingspan of 20 meters and a height of 4 meters, and with 2 engines ... then on the radars it will glow like ... rearmament ...

[Atlas]

This Akinchi itself is an excellent target because it is very large and relatively slow. If not the Shell, the Beech and Thor will land it without straining. Air defense we have, thank God, layered. And I think it will be no worse over Donbass

[Israel]

On Akıncı it is already "not a pity" to use С300 / 400.

[Lech from Android.]

Well, as the Azerbadzians gutted the Armenians in Karabakh with drones, this is the best advertisement.
Of course, if you are such gouges, then you can defeat the enemy with a simple club.

[huntsman650]

They didn't have BUKs. Syrians with BUKami closed the sky in Idlib (Irdogan asked not to advertise)

[keeper03]

You can defend your interests, but at the same time destroy on the video Patriot's, but Erdogan is not in his repertoire!
Well, let's wait for our retaliatory move!

[Atlas]

Whom they are most afraid of is overpowered))))

[cniza]

Quote: rocket757

In Turkey, a new ammunition for drones was presented with a video about the destruction of the Pantsir-S air defense missile system

... The advertisement is engine of the trade ...
They want to compete with the best, the most dangerous, this is also understandable.

Let them pay us for advertising use.

[rocket757]

Everything there is ambiguous ... with our means, weapons, their army, and therefore the military budget, are being cut ... the Sultan is unlikely to like it.
But the most important thing for arms manufacturers is that the state buys more and more.

[cniza]

I'm talking about the manufacturers of weapons, and the Sultan wants to be too clever ...

[rocket757]

Sultan, he must be ... versatile.

[cniza]

Oh yes, he walks in different directions at the same time ...

[rocket757]

Ha, he is so cunning that he wants to make each side HIS OWN!

[cniza]

He already considers her his, moreover, he never blinks an eye ...

[rocket757]

Eastern politician, they are like that ... until the truncation of something important loomed to him, he will never give up clinging to tsuzoe.

[cniza]

Uh-huh, the girth of the arms increases significantly ...

[mitroha]

Well, Erdogan's son-in-law is allowed a lot in Turkey. Our MO should also release a video about renaming Istanbul to Constantinople and returning to the owner

[Volodin]

Quote: Mitroha

renaming Istanbul to Constantinople and returning to its owner

Byzantium?))

[Ka-52]

Byzantium?))

the main ethnic groups in Byzantium were Greeks and Armenians - Turkey's favorite enemies

[keeper03]

The Armenians would be delighted!

[Suleiman]

Byzantium and Armenians?

[prior]

Expansion of the Bosphorus Strait with the help of "Kuzkina Mother"
also looks very promising.

[novel66]

and another strait .. is needed ..

[swnvaleria]

yeah, and the british trench in the atlantic ocean

[donavi49]

Erdogan's son-in-law is allowed a lot in Turkey

1) The article is not about Akinchi at all, but about a new product from Roketsan, which will be hung on both the F-16 and Vestel (other private UAV manufacturers) and TAI (Anka). Seljuk has nothing to do with it. He just hung this ammunition under his UAV.
2) Personally, I would not mind if another son-in-law, matchmaker, lover did not build a palace, did not withdraw money, did not pick up some kind of super-efficient direction, but built from scratch a completely advanced assembly plant, with robots, the latest machine tools , stands and test facilities. I think you too.

[mitroha]

Quote: donavi49

Personally, I would not mind if another son-in-law, matchmaker, lover did not build a palace, did not withdraw money, did not pick up some super-efficient direction, but built from scratch a completely advanced assembly plant, with robots, the latest machine tools, stands and a testing base. I think you too.

Well, for example, now a plant for the production of UAVs is being built in Russia, and not even a son-in-law, matchmaker, lover, but just businessmen. What's wrong?

[donavi49]

Well, their former parent company was brutally stabbed to death. Russian business, he is. As it is, the private trader has 45% of the world market for marine simulators and cartographic systems. This is not order. And where is Transas now? Quickly it was cut into parts, something was bought by the Finns for ridiculous money, something was buried, Kronstadt miraculously survived.

[vl903]

thanks to the Turks for advertising the shell. apparently a patriot and some kind of American mobile air defense system they no longer consider as a worthy enemy

[Russobel]

Something Turkestanis are priborzel, it would be necessary to show them a video of how "Sarmat" strikes Ankara ...

[Popandos]

Well, by this the Turks confirm that "Pantsir" is a serious adversary, because advertisements will not show how the ammunition hits an easily vulnerable target.

[APASUS]

Judging by the commercial, the Turks very seriously attach importance to the Pantsir-S air defense missile system and combat qualities

[venik]

A beautiful cartoon .... Alas, only a cartoon! In Idlib, just the opposite happened .... Both with the "Bayraktars" and with the "Anki" ....

That's all I think: maybe the junior can be strained (How "Armor" - "Bayraktarov" land .... he is my programmer - he also knows how to draw not such "cartoons"!)) .... Just WHY? Well, the Turks like to think that they are "cooler than boiled eggs" - well, let them amuse themselves .... Like kids in a sandbox!

[Xnumx vis]

In Russian, the word Turk A synonym for a very stupid, not distant person ...

[ioan-e]

Quote: 30 vis

In Russian, the word Turk A synonym for a very stupid, not distant person ...

And also malicious and vile, not observing any agreements and ready to stick a knife in the back!

[Holuay T.O]

The shell is simply untenable against Turkish UAVs, it's a pity that ours continue to buy this crap

[Skay]

And the Carapace in the video just stood there weak and did nothing ...

[Semyonich from the Urals]

Curvature of the earth, what to do

[ioan-e]

Quote: Semyonich from the Urals

Curvature of the earth, what to do

And you, apparently, lack of elementary education, in particular, the basics of geography and physics!

[TatarinSSSR]

What difference does it make what is shown as targets ?! Does Russia Trade in Arms? Yes. Russia asks permission from Turkey, whether to sell these weapons to its opponents? Not. This weapon, respectively, can be in service with Turkey's opponents? Yes. So why can't the video be shown as a target? Can. Is there a Russian flag on the Pantsir-S target? Not. There are no markings. And the fact that the arms manufacturer is Russia - so sorry, competition, the world of capitalism. What kind of eternal friendship, what does the author write about, what vows, who gave them and to whom where? In which interstate agreement is this spelled out point by point? It's time to forget about friendship 25 years ago. There is no such thing anymore. In this world, there are only beneficial alliances, often temporary. There is neutrality. And there is submission to the stronger and richer. Now Turkey is now a friend, now a traitor, now a brother, now an enemy. It all depends on the benefits, not on some kind of friendship.

[Prisoner]

Offended that the "Lancet" was struck on "Bayraktar"

[Yrec]

The Turkish state (I'm not talking about ordinary Turks) has always been hostile to us. Any "friendship" with him is a purely opportunistic phenomenon. Erdogan is a master of changing shoes in the air, an absolutely unprincipled type. He will end up badly.

[Vasily Terkin_2]

Why then did the conjuncture in our country develop into state policy?

[Ilya098]

New ammunition in Turkey

Then you need to shoot a video, where Petrov and Boshirov, by analogy with the Czech Republic, a warehouse with these miraculous ammunition is blown up

[Puler]

Wet oriental yams ....

[no better place for]

For some reason, everyone is outraged that the role of a target is a shell, but for some reason they rejoiced a week ago in a cartoon where Bayraktar was the target. It's just a response. Moreover, both Libya and Syria have shells, and several other countries

[Vasily Terkin_2]

Fair.

[Roman 57 rus]

With the S-400 (500!), How far will this UAV fly from the airfield? And will there be airfields, if the enemy has an OTRK (Iskander).

[Vasily Terkin_2]

At a distance of 150 km, how many radio horizons does the S-400 have without a low-altitude illumination tower? 300-500 meters .... and everything below he does not see, like a blind-ball Pew .... that is, for a low-speed UAV, there is enough space for an approach at an ultra-low height of up to 10 m and a sudden impact. Towers in frontal conditions are a utopia and a wonderful target, so you can't do without regimental air defense systems

[Roman 57 rus]

And what is the radio horizon ?? And what the radar will do from 50 meters, to whom it will fly at a distance of using weapons with impunity for itself, except for the bearded boys in Idlib (and that is not a fact), and they are their own.

[Vasily Terkin_2]

What nafig airfield for Bayraktar weighing half a ton?

[Gregory Charnota]

it means that the shells were given to the Turkish drones to light a cigarette if they made a special rocket

[Vasily Terkin_2]

It's just that Roketsan has people with a commercial bias, with a commercial vein and are very sensitive to the reputation and demand for their products. Unlike our companions, the Turks would have been able to make money. And then they made a seemingly successful complex and now they have been stamping it for 30 years all over the ball ..... not those times today, gentlemen gunsmiths! And if you want your products to be really effective in the real battle of technology, you need to act in the 21st century with lightning speed and keep your ears open!

[huntsman650]

Carapace, carapace, and here once and beech))) drone knock knock)))

[rotmistr60]

video created using computer graphics ...

The Turks have chosen just such a marketing move because the Russian "Pantsir" air defense system is on everyone's lips and is being bought. And of course to show, supposedly, their "superiority" on a possible battlefield. Of course disgusting, but in their opinion "business and nothing more." Maybe, without any graphics, it was worth launching a video with the wreckage of a propagated Turkish UAV in Libya and not only?

[Vasily Terkin_2]

Can we learn marketing from the Turks?

[iouris]

"We" generally need to study, study, study and study. Only laziness.

[Vasily Terkin_2]

If there was a second option, I think Aliyev would not be creating a walk of fame in Baku now, but would be chewing a tie under Pashinyan's table.

[International Observer]

In principle, nothing else could be expected from the Turks ..

In response, it would be nice to show the documentary truth with a little statistics at the end of the video. If, of course, there is something to show.

[cniza]

Therefore, it is hardly appropriate to be surprised that it is the Russian complex as the target in the video.

We must ask for money from them, a share of the sale ...

[aszzz888]

A video created with the help of computer graphics has appeared on the Web, in which a Turkish drone strikes a Russian-made "Pantsir-S".

you can draw anything

[Maikcg]

The video does not show that the Carapace was standing empty, waiting to be reloaded, and the crew was drinking tea with gingerbread.

[iouris]

Will the Lancet fly to Bayraktar?

[Emil Azeri]

I am very pleased with such innovations of the Turkish military-industrial complex. After all, the strengthening of the Turkish army and the military-industrial complex is the strengthening of Azerbaijan, incl.
If in plain text, then the Turkish army is actually our army.
In 2013, 3 corporations from two countries began to build the ACSA (Automatic Army Control System) of Azerbaijan. Turkish Aslesan, Israel's Tadiran Communication and Elbit System have taken over. As soon as the construction of the automated control system for individual troops was completed, the automated control system was built. Then this ASUA was connected to the ASUA of Turkey. And thus, from the command post of control of Turkey, they can also control the Azerbaijani army. Our air force (air defense including) is connected to the Turkish air force, our ground forces are also connected to the Turkish, thereby our army with the Turkish army has become a monolithic single Army. In order to actually consolidate this, we constantly conduct joint exercises of all types of troops, as soon as some exercises end, others begin, that is, joint exercises do not stop, they are constant. Sitting in the command post of Turkey, you can control the Azerbaijani army, or vice versa, with the command post of Azerbaijan, you can control the army of the two countries. Since 2015, our country has actually merged with Turkey, in fact, one country disguised as 2 separate countries. So I am very happy for our country, called Turkey, and such news from the military-industrial complex makes me very happy.

[Atlas]

Happy for you, but ...
I have one question. Now with the Turks everything is more or less bearable, but If there is a hypothetically aggravation between the Russian Federation and Turkey right up to hostilities, then the Turkish General Staff will control your army too ???
Or is it different ???

[Emil Azeri]

Quote: Atlas

but if there is a hypothetically aggravation between the Russian Federation and Turkey right up to hostilities, then the Turkish General Staff will control your army too ???

I would really not like a military aggravation between Turkey and Russia, it is better to be friends and develop, why fight?
But if we hypothetically assume this, then yes, they will control our army as well. Turkey and Azerbaijan are already one country, disguised as 2 separate countries. 2 countries are 2 voices in the international arena, this is an opportunity to play two-headed games in the region, therefore we act under the guise of two separate countries, so there are more advantages.
But I wish all of us peace without war.

[Kostadinov]

Quote: Cheshire

Only the mobility of the target will help here.

It will only help to shoot down Bayraktari and Anka with light piloted fighters. They are excellent targets for combat training aircraft.
Better yet, destroy the control room.

[Suleiman]

Quote: donavi49

super efficient direction,

super-profitable wanted to say?))

[Oleg Salov]

As already tired of these staged cartoons, it is already clear to everyone that if the Pantsir-S air defense missile system is on alert, then no UAV, no rockets and shells are afraid of him, and in cartoons you can do anything you want.

[outsider]

- However, the twin-engine UAV "Akinsi" ("Raider") is very large:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bayraktar_Ak%C4%B1nc%C4%B1#Specifications
He will be shot down more successfully than the small, light and less noticeable Bayraktar TB2... In the place of the Turks, I would take care of increasing the carrying capacity of a small ...

[outsider]

Quote: Roman 57 rus

With the S-400 (500!), How far will this UAV fly from the airfield? And will there be airfields, if the enemy has an OTRK (Iskander).

- He's a very inconspicuous aircraft, eccentric. And you can make it even more inconspicuous, if you do not regret a little money on the RPM ...

[Cheshire]

Quote: Intruder

That is, "I am not me and the cow is not mine" !? Isn't it your comment:
Only the mobility of the target will help here.

Here, in my opinion, there is a clinical case. But I hope for a favorable outcome