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The Ministry of Defense is considering the option of supplying the Yak-130 UBS to the naval aviation of the Russian Navy

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The Ministry of Defense is considering the option of supplying the Yak-130 UBS to the naval aviation of the Russian Navy

The Ministry of Defense plans to purchase new Yak-130 combat training aircraft under the already signed contract. At the moment, we are talking about 25 new Yak-130, which should be transferred to the military by 2027.


According to the Ministry of Defense, which is shared with us "News", the military department intends to transfer the planned Yak-130 to the armament of the naval aviation The Russian Navy, where they will train, including carrier-based aviation pilots. The publication writes that the Aerospace Forces have already purchased more than a hundred Yak-130, at the same time, the Navy does not have such an aircraft and it is necessary in units and regiments of naval aviation to train young pilots to "drive" combat vehicles. At the same time, in the presence of the Yak-130, most of the load will be transferred to them. In addition, the Yak-130 can be used as an assault aircraft.

But these are only intentions, a final decision on this issue has not yet been made. It is possible that the planes will go to the Aerospace Forces, where they are traditionally supplied.

Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu announced the conclusion of a new contract for the supply of 25 Yak-130 combat training aircraft in 2020. Previously, the Yak-130 was modernized by specialists from the Irkutsk aircraft plant, taking into account the data received from Russian pilots during operation.

Yak-130 (according to NATO codification: Mitten - "Mitten") is a Russian combat training aircraft developed by the Yakovlev Design Bureau to replace the L-39 training aircraft in the Russian Air Force. In the case of combat operations, the aircraft is able to perform the tasks of a light attack aircraft.

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  1. Pavel57
    Pavel57 April 20 2021 11: 12
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    We need to make a variant with 4 X-35 names.
    1. Reviews
      Reviews April 20 2021 11: 16
      +21
      Quote: Pavel57
      We need to make a variant with 4 X-35 names.

      First of all, you need to make an airplane with a radar.
      1. Vladimir_2U
        Vladimir_2U April 20 2021 11: 25
        -1
        Quote: Avis
        First of all, you need to make an airplane with a radar.

        Here or or! laughing
      2. mark1
        mark1 April 20 2021 11: 26
        -5
        Quote: Avis
        First of all, you need to make an airplane with a radar.

        First of all, you need to put on the floats
        1. Bez 310
          Bez 310 April 20 2021 13: 50
          +6
          Quote: mark1
          First of all, you need to put on the floats

          I agree!
          But we also need to make the webbing on the chassis.
        2. lucul
          lucul April 20 2021 16: 13
          -3
          First of all, you need to put on the floats

          It is subsonic and the engines are nothing.
          And so, if it were supersonic, but with normal engines, and the specific load on the wing is less, it would have turned out to be a good alternative to the MiG-29K for the aircraft carrier's wing.
          4500kg empty weight and 3000kg payload are pretty good.
          1. mark1
            mark1 April 20 2021 16: 39
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            Yes, I don’t see it at all in naval aviation, except for TCB (subject to modernization)
          2. Barberry25
            Barberry25 April 20 2021 20: 17
            +1
            and it would then cost three times more)
      3. hrych
        hrych April 20 2021 11: 49
        +5
        Nowadays, external target designation and a compact optoelectronic integrated system (OEIS) are in vogue. Therefore, the overall radar is not always needed, which the older brothers have ... OEIS and not only, you can also hang
        1. Reviews
          Reviews April 20 2021 12: 00
          +8
          Quote: hrych
          Nowadays, external target designation and a compact optoelectronic integrated system (OEIS) are in vogue.

          I don't know what's wrong with fashion, but in real life, aiming should be complex. And the target designator is not immortal. And he can be overwhelmed or drowned. And not every small carrier of target designators will not be enough. Then the onboard radar will come in handy.
          1. hrych
            hrych April 20 2021 12: 56
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            I agree, yes, in fact, and not to put Belka, it is quite possible from attack helicopters, small, phasotron, etc. radar radars fit. On the other hand, the Su-25 with anti-radars performs combat missions. There is a radar station "Spear-25" in a suspended container under the fuselage, which is used to engage air targets. But the Yak-130 is not intended to gain air superiority either. Well, where the tasks of the attack aircraft will be solved, where will they be involved in the PKO.
            1. Reviews
              Reviews April 20 2021 13: 12
              +4
              Quote: hrych
              Su-25 with "anti-radars" also performs combat missions.

              Is it right in the XNUMXst century that an airplane does not have a radar? It's not okay for me.
              Yak-130 is not for air supremacy

              Yes. It is, first of all, for the advanced training of future pilots of aircraft with radar. It is not on simulators to learn how to work with radars (limited realism) and not on combat aircraft (expensive) ... Well, for a light attack aircraft, an extra "eye" will also not hurt if it is there initially.
              1. poquello
                poquello April 20 2021 13: 20
                +4
                Quote: Avis
                Is it right in the XNUMXst century that an airplane does not have a radar? It's not okay for me.

                ok if network centric is present
                1. Reviews
                  Reviews April 20 2021 13: 35
                  +4
                  Quote: poquello
                  Quote: Avis
                  Is it right in the XNUMXst century that an airplane does not have a radar? It's not okay for me.

                  ok if network centric is present

                  Is she always there? F-35 has this "network center"?
                  1. poquello
                    poquello April 20 2021 13: 56
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                    Quote: Avis
                    Quote: poquello
                    Quote: Avis
                    Is it right in the XNUMXst century that an airplane does not have a radar? It's not okay for me.

                    ok if network centric is present

                    Is she always there? F-35 has this "network center"?

                    f35 "sort of" has the ability to work in the network (in their network), of course, it is not always and not everywhere, it will be more accurate, more precisely, to work without radar, it is necessary that this radar be on another object
                    1. Reviews
                      Reviews April 20 2021 16: 26
                      +1
                      Quote: poquello
                      Quote: Avis
                      Quote: poquello
                      Quote: Avis
                      Is it right in the XNUMXst century that an airplane does not have a radar? It's not okay for me.

                      ok if network centric is present

                      Is she always there? F-35 has this "network center"?

                      f35 "sort of" has the ability to work in the network (in their network), of course, it is not always and not everywhere, it will be more accurate, more precisely, to work without radar, it is necessary that this radar be on another object

                      Sapienti sat.
              2. hrych
                hrych April 20 2021 13: 44
                +3
                Since he is a combat training, then probably the instructor can not be put anywhere. Do not use its redundant controls and instruments, do not use an ejection seat, etc. But again, even now, it is capable of performing the tasks of a light attack aircraft. So I suppose, if a BS is made from the UBS, then the radar and other systems will be where to put, throwing out the instructor and his facilities. It was stated that the question of creating a strike drone on its basis is even being considered. This is what, that all in the UBS version, it is easier to use suspended electronic systems (if necessary), in accordance with the used suspended NURS, ATGMs, anti-ship missiles and missiles.
                1. Reviews
                  Reviews April 20 2021 13: 57
                  +3
                  Quote: hrych
                  Since he is a combat training, then probably the instructor can not be put anywhere.

                  Of course not. Do not need. UBS, all the same.
                  Again, and now he is able to perform the tasks of a light attack aircraft.

                  Indisputably. Simply, in our time, even the Basmachi already carry a lot of things with them and visual aiming may no longer be enough for the safety of an attack. So, it is better to have a radar, "... than to be poor and sick." :)
                  if a BS is made from the UBS, then the radar and other systems will have where to put, throwing out the instructor and his facilities

                  I hope not. Such multipurpose UBS are of interest to poor countries, but they cannot afford two specialized aircraft.
                  easier to use pendant electronic systems (as needed)

                  Easier. But this also means occupying at least one pylon for a container, not a weapon.
                2. Intruder
                  Intruder April 21 2021 08: 47
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                  But again, even now, he is able to perform the tasks of a light attack aircraft.
                  The tasks of a light attack aircraft and a rotorcraft will be completed quite successfully, in the naval version - on the deck of a helicopter carrier or a large UDC! And this bird is from the UBS-type (nowhere, has not been in real combat ... except for training grounds), plus requiring investments in modernization, to a naval version ... hmm, strange initiatives at the RF Ministry of Defense recourse
              3. Barberry25
                Barberry25 April 20 2021 20: 18
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                laughing The radar, by its very presence, will multiply the price of the 130th by 2 ...
      4. Bad_gr
        Bad_gr April 20 2021 13: 19
        +6
        Quote: Avis
        First of all, you need to make an airplane with a radar.

        Airborne onboard radar "Kopye-F" is designed for installation on Yak-130UBS, MiG-AT, etc.
        1. Reviews
          Reviews April 20 2021 13: 36
          +1
          Quote: Bad_gr
          Quote: Avis
          First of all, you need to make an airplane with a radar.

          Airborne onboard radar "Kopye-F" is designed for installation on Yak-130UBS, MiG-AT, etc.

          While she is not a hundred on the Yak-130иt. You never know what and for what is intended ...
          1. Bad_gr
            Bad_gr April 20 2021 13: 39
            +2
            Quote: Avis
            While she is on the Yak-130 is not. You never know what and what it is intended for ...

            The locator is already there. Whether he will stand on the plane or not depends only on the customer, and not because there is no such possibility.
            1. Reviews
              Reviews April 20 2021 13: 58
              +3
              Quote: Bad_gr
              Quote: Avis
              While she is on the Yak-130 is not. You never know what and what it is intended for ...

              The locator is already there. Whether he will stand on the plane or not depends only on the customer, and not because there is no such possibility.

              And I did not say that there is no possibility. There is no plane with a locator. And, by the way, most likely, no one has tested it on the plane itself.
            2. SovAr238A
              SovAr238A April 20 2021 16: 14
              +1
              Quote: Bad_gr
              Quote: Avis
              While she is on the Yak-130 is not. You never know what and what it is intended for ...

              The locator is already there. Whether he will stand on the plane or not depends only on the customer, and not because there is no such possibility.


              Radar Compier - did not leave the stage of the layout.
              Since 2003, no one needed it and the topic was buried.
              So there is no Spear-F radar.
              1. Intruder
                Intruder April 21 2021 08: 48
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                Radar Compier - did not leave the stage of the layout.
                Honestly, I hope - even weight-dimensional! ??? wink laughing
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  • SovAr238A
    SovAr238A April 20 2021 16: 34
    +1
    Quote: Piramidon
    Quote: Avis
    First of all, you need to make an airplane with a radar.

    It's all the same UBS.


    History shows that on the basis of the TCB, hundreds of light attack aircraft were built and operated by the relatively poor or not very developed countries of Latin America, Africa, and Southeast Asia.
    Which were just made on the basis of the TCB.
    Accordingly, the same Aermacci made most of these aircraft.
    And the installation of a modern radar station in the same block with the LMS - allows the same M-346 (twin of the Yak-130) - to become an aircraft capable of performing missions to combat air targets, partisan movement, ground targets, for air defense, direct air support and tactical reconnaissance ...
    And it certainly is not a rival to the Su-35S, but its operation will not ruin countries with a small budget.
    1. Barberry25
      Barberry25 April 20 2021 20: 26
      +1
      laughing First, we need to decide what and for what ... If we make a flying desk, then it should be cheap, if we make a combat aircraft ... Then the price of a Yak-130 with an airborne radar will be about 25-30 cartoons ... for understanding, Indians have we MiG-29UPG are taken at a price of 40 mults overboard ... And that's why no one uses the M346 as combat aircraft, and if you need to drive partisans through the jungle, that is, Super Toucans for 15 cartoons
      1. SovAr238A
        SovAr238A April 21 2021 08: 15
        +2
        an airplane ... then the price of a Yak-130 with an on-board radar will be about 25-30 mults ... for understanding, the Indians take MiG-29UPG at a price of 40 mults overboard ...

        You need to read carefully ...
        For in addition to combat capabilities, there is also the cost of ownership and maintenance.
        So an aircraft based on the Yak-130 will be at least five times cheaper in terms of maintenance cost over the life cycle.
        And the life cycle of a modern aircraft is much higher than its purchase price.
        What is super important for poor countries.

        It's like giving a "dreadnought" ...
        1. Barberry25
          Barberry25 April 21 2021 09: 50
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          that's the point .. you need to understand that each thing has its own purpose .. the purpose of installing the radar on a training aircraft? learning how to use it? it can also be used on large aircraft .. only combat use remains .. but then we need to first lose a bunch of new aircraft ..with the pilots, then it is easier and more correct to take several su-30s and carry out repairs and keep them as spare vehicles .. it will be at the price of a bash for a bash, but the level of combat capabilities will not be comparable ..
    2. Intruder
      Intruder April 21 2021 08: 57
      +1
      History shows that on the basis of the TCB, hundreds of light attack aircraft were built and operated by the relatively poor or not very developed countries of Latin America, Africa, and Southeast Asia.
      Is it always !? It is on the basis of TCB, here is another reality ...:




      Especially if the ground targets are small and poor, with old MANPADS even ... Moreover, the use of a turbojet engine is always more expensive than an economical turboprop !!!
      1. SovAr238A
        SovAr238A April 21 2021 10: 49
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        Quote: Intruder
        Is it always !?


        Not always.
        But hundreds of aircraft of the same Aermacci were built.

        The same BAC.167 Strikemaster, a specially created export light attack aircraft based on a jet trainer. 150 cars.
        Or his follower BAe "Hawk".
        After all, the same Englishmen, of course, are not the poorest country, but they almost immediately upgraded all their BAe Hawk jet trainers to use the AIM-9 Sidewinder melee missile launcher. Such machines, designated "Hawk" T.1W, in case of war were to be armed with four squadrons, manned by flight school instructors, and used in conjunction with heavy fighter-interceptors "Tornado" F.3
        And then the MK.200 version appeared. On which there was a radar, and a laser rangefinder-target designator, and a thermal imaging station.
        Capable of using outboard guns, and Mavericks, and light anti-ship missiles and even carry torpedoes.
        And they were on sale ...
        Until the last.

        And there were plenty of such aircraft.
        It's just that they are sold little by little, contracts are not expensive and they "don't sound loud" in the news ...
        But planes for the poor will always be in demand - for there are almost 70% of poor countries on our planet ... And they, too, need to be lifted into the air.
        Although not only poor ...
  • venik
    venik April 20 2021 19: 37
    +1
    Quote: Avis
    First of all, you need to make an airplane with a radar.

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    First you need to make a small radar! For a Yak - even "Zhuk-A" - it is too big, and to put the antediluvian "Spear" with a slotted antenna (the last century!) - there is no point!
  • Orange bigg
    Orange bigg April 20 2021 11: 28
    +7
    Quote: Pavel57
    We need to make a variant with 4 X-35 names.


    What's the point? Yak-130 is primarily a combat training aircraft. The Kh-35U can be used from the Su-34, MiG-35, and even the Ka-52. There are already enough carriers of this rocket.
    1. sustav75
      sustav75 April 20 2021 12: 20
      +1
      Aha! Especially in the quantitative sense of these carriers! One and a half MiG-35 aircraft produced especially sounds ...
      1. Orange bigg
        Orange bigg April 20 2021 12: 39
        -2
        Quote: sustav75
        Aha! Especially in the quantitative sense of these carriers! One and a half MiG-35 aircraft produced especially sounds ...


        Your math is bad. At least 6 MiG-35s are already in service with the Russian Aerospace Forces, despite the fact that state tests have not yet been completed, after which a new contract for the MiG-35 will be signed.

        The Russian Aerospace Forces received multifunctional MiG-35S fighters. The message about this was published by "Krasnaya Zvezda" in the infographic "The Armed Forces of the Russian Federation in a Week". The planes were transferred to the military as part of the state defense order, the publication specifies.


        The "C" index in the aircraft name means "serial". The production of the MiG-35 in this capacity began in 2019. At the same time, according to Ilya Tarasenko, head of the MiG company, the first contract was signed with the Ministry of Defense for a batch of six vehicles. State tests of the fighter are scheduled for completion in 2021.

        Despite the fact that the MiG-35 is a development of the MiG-29 family, a number of fifth-generation technologies were used in its design: reduced radar signature, radar with an active phased antenna, the ability to use existing and future weapons. Also, the advantages of the aircraft include a helmet-mounted target designation system, engines with increased thrust and the ability to act as a flying tanker. At the same time, the fighter remained easy to maintain and retained the ability to operate from unpaved airfields.

        https://rg.ru/2021/03/15/istrebiteli-mig-35-peredany-v-vojska.html
        1. sustav75
          sustav75 April 20 2021 14: 17
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          Oh my God! How much! Straight missiles do not have time to produce! Do not powder your brains! The MiG-35 (29) is already outdated, having not yet begun to fly normally! There will be no more orders for it, the rest is so, to support Mikayanovsky's pants, which was once a great design bureau!
        2. Toucan
          Toucan April 21 2021 01: 21
          +4
          At least 6 MiG-35s are already in service with the Russian Aerospace Forces, despite the fact that state tests have not yet been completed ...

          Forgive me, but you undertake to talk about what you do not understand. The fighter cannot be put into service until the completion of the GSI. These aircraft are in trial operation.
      2. hrych
        hrych April 20 2021 14: 13
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        Quote: sustav75
        Especially in the quantitative sense of these carriers!

        And the type of ships of the enemy is darkness, darkness wassat The entire United States has less than 300 pennants, including ships against which the X-35 is powerless, well, at least the nuclear submarine. And not only the Su-35 is its carrier, but is included in the nomenclature of the Su-24, Su-30, MiG-29, TU-142 and even helicopters, primarily the Kamov naval aviation. This is how the coastal Val also starts it up, and oh, horror, apart from combat ships, dry cargo ships and other barges can use it from PUs camouflaged under sea containers laughing So the X-35 is not the only aviation anti-ship missile.
        1. sustav75
          sustav75 April 20 2021 14: 48
          +1
          Greetings to the leader of the patriotoptimists of this resource! I suggest you hold a friendly competition with an orange! Who more of you will be able to express courtesies to the RF Ministry of Defense! For their striking pace in supplying the troops with the latest Armata tanks, Sau coalition, Su-57 fighters and other things, other things, other things ... Good luck, gentlemen, comrades ...
          1. hrych
            hrych April 20 2021 15: 15
            -1
            Greetings to the honored sower of panic! drinks If we stood naked, yes, sadness. And so without Armata, we have the most tanks on the balance sheet of the Ministry of Defense. wassat and without the Coalition there will be revolvers and there are enough airplanes without the Su-57. Well, as he said to justify our MO? Earnestly? Somehow, without the Armata and the Su-57, they returned Crimea, control of the Caucasian ridge and the Syrian coast. How is such an argument? Rate it?
            1. sustav75
              sustav75 April 20 2021 15: 47
              +2
              Not convinced! You can use a paw and a butt to score a cowardly enemy (a Ukrainian in Crimea, a Georgian in Ossetia) hiding behind his master's shoulders! A Russian soldier can even remove a T-34 from an obelisk, bring it into battle! But a big BUT! Fighting on really new technology and really new weapons is much more useful for life, health and other benefits! The fact that our Russian mothers are still giving birth is no longer working! Right now, families usually have one child. Two already have many children (: And I am not engaged in alarmism on the resource, but in fair soaking of the chatty muzzles from the Ministry of Defense responsible for the supply of NEW weapons, into the puddles of lies they have spilled on all news resources.
              1. hrych
                hrych April 20 2021 17: 05
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                Quote: sustav75
                fair soaking of chatty muzzles from MO

                Those. Boreas plowing the vastness of the ocean mean nothing? These are more than six dozen Maces already in defense of the Motherland. Or do they never fly? Deployed under a hundred Yars, don't you impress? More than one and a half hundred launchers of Iskander chatter? How much do you need to give birth to make up for the losses of the Crimean operation? So, the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation extremely minimized the loss of drugs, taking control of the territory three times more than your beacon - Israel.
                1. sustav75
                  sustav75 April 20 2021 18: 15
                  +3
                  Take control of Crimea and part of Donbass, in return give all Russian-speaking Ukraine to Bandera and the USA ?! And to endure this cesspool knows how many more years! It will hardly come to the use of maces and governors. Since this is the end of everything, but local conflicts, as in the same 2014, will be quite still! But then Ukrov had a shortage of supplies! Today they were trained like dogs! And they are ready to vomit! And for fresh-smelling bucks and even more so. Therefore, our army must outnumber the enemy by orders of magnitude, in modern technological weapons! An example of this is drones, the Ministry of Defense blinked in this direction. And if something happens, Russia does not need coffins! Not needed! About Israel is not for me. Not a fan. Although at one time they famously pissed off the arrogant clumsy Arabs. But that's a different story
                  1. hrych
                    hrych April 21 2021 00: 36
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                    Quote: sustav75
                    And they are ready to tear

                    Has anything changed? Have the Banderlog become braver? Dearie got bigger? They remained the same. Drones? First, we are full of all sorts of different. Secondly, Libya and Syria have shown that they do not mean anything against aviation, competent electronic warfare and air defense. This is how the control points crush with anti-radar missiles, etc. That the Karabakh people did not have such means - the greed of the diaspora, etc. Russia was accused of destroying the Norwegian frigate using electronic warfare in such and such a way. What can spiteful forces oppose us there? Well, you must be in nightmares, which is what you dreamed. Suppress their control centers and air defense systems, prescribed by Iskanders and Calibers, then air missiles, the same anti-radar, etc. Russia has high-precision weapons. Then it is prescribed to iron with bombardments, etc. Even a stampede will not help. And where do the drone drivers belong? Ukraine was fed by the Bolsheviks for 70 years, and in 1991 it sailed away and we did not lose it. The inhabitants of Ukraine obeyed the banderlog themselves. The LDNR did not obey, they were ready to fight. But the rest obeyed, well, do we need them like that? Who should do something for them? Themselves allowed, let them themselves and disentangle.
                    1. sustav75
                      sustav75 April 21 2021 01: 41
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                      They will tear the LDNR corps, not Russian troops! And for this in the current conditions they will need less than a day! Caliber and Iskander mi hardly dare to work, fearing everything and the entire GDP! Americans with NATO are just waiting for an excuse to finally bring their troops to Ukraine, at the request of the bleeding Zelensky. You yourself know very well who fought the Bandera people in the main in 2014! Someone would have a strong will, and the inhabitants of Zhytomyr would not submit to the new government of Ukraine and would “fight” shoulder to shoulder with not quite the inhabitants of the crying nenki! The train left! And yet Russia will have to disentangle it! Since the tension on the huge border with Ukraine will only grow!
                    2. hrych
                      hrych April 22 2021 00: 10
                      +1
                      Quote: sustav75
                      They will tear apart the LDNR corps

                      And the better the Ukrainian Armed Forces have become and the worse the LPNR divisions have become? By and large, the scattered, irregular subdivisions of the LPNR turned into a real army, very well equipped and trained, and the AFU remained the same AFU. That 7 years ago they were armed to the teeth, and now. Some kind of myth that over the years, the Ukrainian Armed Forces have grown stronger. And how did she get stronger? Aircraft carriers, combat satellites? Javelins are dubious. On the other hand, LDNR are going to defend themselves, which is easier. The main corpses and scrap metal of the Ukrainian Armed Forces will immediately be left in minefields. NATO troops will not enter Ukraine, because this is a nuclear war, otherwise they would have been introduced long ago. What is stopping them before and now? It seems like nothing, just they were warned earlier that this should not be done. If the inhabitants of Zhitomir had will, they would not have obeyed the jackals. And if the darling was not enough, what does Russia have to do with it? The train did not leave. In the 41st, Ukraine was occupied by a more serious enemy and nothing was knocked out. Voltage? Yes, I don't care. This is one place for them to strain. As it is today. As soon as they assembled a strike fist against the LDNR, they immediately found themselves in the pincers of the Russian troops and ... flowed.
              2. Intruder
                Intruder April 21 2021 09: 29
                +1
                Those. Boreas plowing the vastness of the ocean mean nothing? These are more than six dozen Maces already in the defense of the Motherland. Or do they never fly? Deployed under a hundred Yars, don't you impress? More than one and a half hundred launchers of Iskander chatter?

                Hmm, your bright dispute with the comrade is interesting - sustav75!!!
                And if, to look from the other side, how many Boreans in reality plow the waters of the World !?: In total - up to 4 units. 955-series "Boreya" are in the fleet, (4 more are under construction) a series of Russian strategic nuclear submarines of the 4th generation, armed with 16 SLBMs R-30 "Bulava", in 2020 the first ship of the updated project 955A "Prince Vladimir", admitted to the navy!
                And Yarsov ???
                And now we look at the Yankees: at present, all 18 units are on the payroll of the US Navy. SSBN / SSGN, like: "Ohio"! This is against 4 units. "Boreev" ....
                To the heap, submarines, such as "Virginia" - multipurpose nuclear submarines of the US Navy of the fourth generation, will also help them. 19 units were commissioned, in 2004-2020, in total, it is planned to build from 30 to 48 submarines of this type.
                Somehow incommensurable figures ... ??? wink
                1. hrych
                  hrych April 21 2021 23: 47
                  +1
                  Firstly, we have not only Borey, but also Dolphin SSBNs, multi-purpose Shchuk-B and Antei, as well as some titanium nuclear-powered ships. There is also a decent number of Varshavyank women armed with calibers of the entire range. This is why the concept is different. We (had) about 70% of mine-based ICBMs, and 30% sea-based on SSBNs. And the Americans have exactly the opposite 70% in Ohio, and 30% in the mines. And in the mines they have complete rubbish. We have added mobile complexes with Yars. This is closer to the mines in terms of reliability, and closer to submarines in invulnerability. Not the point. Russia is a continental power, and the United States is not, although the country is large, but cities and towns are concentrated on the coast. Where them Poseidon and cover the lukewarm. Not the point. Our Varshavyanka women are not inferior to the Virginias in terms of striking power. They have Tomahawks from 12 to 24, and Varshavyanka calibers up to 18. But Varshavyanka is an order of magnitude quieter. She guards her seas better than noisy Virginia. Therefore, do not be confused by the difference between a diesel boat and a nuclear-powered boat. In their area, the former are better, and for long-distance cruises there are also nuclear-powered ships. In general, in terms of submarines, we have practically parity with the United States.
    2. venik
      venik April 20 2021 19: 57
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      Quote: sustav75
      Aha! Especially in the quantitative sense of these carriers! One and a half MiG-35 aircraft produced especially sounds ...

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      Considering that the Kh-35 can be used by most multipurpose fighters and bombers, as well as practically all turntables of naval aviation, patrol and anti-submarine aircraft, there are no problems with the carriers of the "Uranus", from the word at all!
      And if you also take into account, without any special problems, you can mount practically ANY aircraft or helicopter with a radar (this is the design of the missile), it turns out that we have almost more "carriers" than the missiles themselves!
      PS Learn materiel and you will be happy!
  • venik
    venik April 20 2021 19: 48
    +1
    Quote: OrangeBigg
    The Kh-35U can be used from the Su-34, MiG-35, and even the Ka-52.

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    They also forgot to mention the Su-30 and Su-35, as well as the turntables: Ka-27, Ka-29, and Ka-31 .... In general:
    Quote: OrangeBigg
    There are already enough carriers of this rocket.

    good drinks
  • venik
    venik April 20 2021 18: 49
    +1
    Quote: Pavel57
    We need to make a variant with 4 X-35 names.

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    And he will pull them ??? I'm not saying that in terms of the maximum payload, they (4 X-35s) hardly fit in there, but on top of that - the maximum load on each pylon for the Yak-130 is to 500 kg! And the airborne X-35 has a starting weight of 530 to 610 kg (depending on the modification)!
  • Doccor18
    Doccor18 April 20 2021 11: 31
    +1
    Very pleasant and promising news
    ... the military department intends to transfer the planned Yak-130s to the naval aviation of the Russian Navy, where they will train, among other things, carrier-based aviation pilots ...
    1. mark1
      mark1 April 20 2021 11: 39
      +7
      Quote: Doccor18
      including pilots of carrier-based aviation ...

      For this, a ship modification of the TCB is needed, and it is not entirely clear what can be taught to deck ships, only if you do not completely lose your aerobatic skills.
    2. Invoce
      Invoce April 20 2021 11: 46
      +6
      Quote: Doccor18
      Very pleasant and promising news
      ... the military department intends to transfer the planned Yak-130s to the naval aviation of the Russian Navy, where they will train, among other things, carrier-based aviation pilots ...

      good The fastest delivery in 25 will be the already upgraded Yak-130M, and if for training pilots of carrier-based aviation, it will be a completely different aircraft, with a folding wing, reinforced landing gear, hook (hook) and possibly other engines ... Not to mention about sighting and navigation complex, electronic warfare and weapons
  • Soldatov V.
    Soldatov V. April 20 2021 11: 46
    +1
    With a radar and a hook for landing on a deck, there will be no price for it. Speed ​​up to 1000 per hour. Three tons on suspension! Can be used as an attack aircraft or a short-range air defense aircraft.
    1. Avior
      Avior April 20 2021 11: 59
      +7
      Air defense without radar?
      1. Soldatov V.
        Soldatov V. April 20 2021 12: 34
        0
        I wrote a radar and do you need a radar (airborne radar)? Sorry then.
        1. Avior
          Avior April 20 2021 12: 58
          +2
          It has no radar.
          I don’t know, maybe you wrote about the ship
      2. Intruder
        Intruder April 21 2021 09: 32
        0
        Air defense without radar?
        Yes, he immediately at the plant, they will stick the same one: "ROFAR" and the truncated can be rolled out, why does he need these old "Squirrels", "Spears" and others ... laughing yes
    2. abrakadabre
      abrakadabre April 20 2021 12: 07
      +3
      Three tons on suspensions!
      With all due respect, 3 tons on a suspension does not take into account the reinforcement of the structure for deck operation and add-ons, such as an airborne radar.
      1. Soldatov V.
        Soldatov V. April 20 2021 12: 17
        +1
        The maximum for amplification and additions, I think, up to 1 ton can be given. 2 tons for short and medium-range air defense missiles will be normal. Barrage within a radius of 200-300 km is also normal. More precisely, the air defense pilots will probably tell you.
    3. Bad_gr
      Bad_gr April 20 2021 13: 37
      +2
      Quote: V.
      Can be used as an attack aircraft or a short-range air defense aircraft.

      Can, with the same success, be used to intercept reconnaissance aircraft of the SR-71 "Blackbird" type.
      The Yak-130 aircraft was created primarily as a TRAINING aircraft for combat pilots, and it is for this purpose that weapons are installed on it in order to teach the pilot how to handle aircraft weapons.
      Attempts to hang combat missions on him is stupidity.
      1. Soldatov V.
        Soldatov V. April 20 2021 14: 23
        -1
        I have just read what is in the base of the Yak-130 by the designers - attack aircraft, reconnaissance aircraft, fighter-bomber, combat radar aircraft, strike drone, training aircraft. The run length is 670 meters, the takeoff run is 380 meters. That is, from Kuznetsov it will easily take off and will sit down after revision. Speed ​​1050 km / h. Range 2000 km without outboard tanks. Interestingly, there is a radar on it. Plus it is a two-seater, or an instructor or navigator-operator. An excellent universal aircraft for pilots with low qualifications.
      2. Intruder
        Intruder April 21 2021 09: 34
        0
        Can, with the same success, be used to intercept reconnaissance aircraft of the SR-71 "Blackbird" type.
        to intercept these birds, you will have to install the module from: "Peresvet" on the 130th, but very lightweight with a meson reactor for power supply ... wink
  • Pavel57
    Pavel57 April 20 2021 11: 58
    +1
    Quote: OrangeBigg
    The Yak-130 is primarily a combat training aircraft.

    What is his "fighting ability" without missile weapons. The radar is required by default. The X-35 will also have an export potential.
    1. Hexenmeister
      Hexenmeister April 20 2021 12: 34
      +1
      Radar is required by default

      So it seems there is even a specific option:
      At the recent MAKS-2019 air show at the end of last summer, the N.I. V.V. Tikhomirova presented another possible direction for the development of "Bars" - a small-size radar with a phased array "Bars-130", which, at the request of the customer, can be equipped with modified combat training aircraft Yak-130.
  • CastroRuiz
    CastroRuiz April 20 2021 12: 44
    -1
    Bez RLS eto tolko uchebniy samolet.
    A boyevoy mozhet bit tolko u papuasov.
  • bars1
    bars1 April 20 2021 13: 26
    +1
    Naval aviation is completed in the Russian Federation on a leftover basis ...
  • Bez 310
    Bez 310 April 20 2021 13: 48
    +5
    More and more delirium ...
  • Ratmir_Ryazan
    Ratmir_Ryazan April 20 2021 14: 06
    +1
    In addition to the Yak-130, we need an analogue of the L-39 for the initial training of pilots.

    First, the piston Yak-152, then the analogue of the L-39, and the Yak-130 imitating any modern aircraft already in the last courses and for training slender pilots in order to save the resource of combat fighters.
    1. Reviews
      Reviews April 20 2021 16: 37
      +1
      Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan
      In addition to the Yak-130, we need an analogue of the L-39 for the initial training of pilots.

      And he is "L-39 of the XXI century". The military equipment is now such that the Yak-130 is the "initial training jet". Or was there some other class of training vehicles in the USSR Air Force between the L-29 / -39 and combat aircraft? :)
  • Pavel57
    Pavel57 April 20 2021 19: 08
    0
    Quote: OrangeBigg
    The Yak-130 is primarily a combat training aircraft. The Kh-35U can be used from the Su-34, MiG-35, and even the Ka-52. There are already enough carriers of this rocket.

    The question of price - the combat version of the Yak-130 is cheaper than the Su-34 and MiG-35.
    The Ka-52, in the case of a base deployment, can carry only 2 missiles, and cannot be compared in terms of range and speed.
    Yes, but as a training Yak-130 is too expensive. The Italians also came to this with their Yaka branch.
    1. Intruder
      Intruder April 21 2021 09: 44
      0
      Ka-52 in the case of basic basing can carry only 2 missiles
      There is also cheaper - Ka-28, for example, I remembered wink , plus up to 50 minutes of patrolling for PLO (simple piloting technique, onboard flight and navigation complex allow one pilot to carry out long combat missions over a water surface without reference points at any time of the year around the clock, including in difficult weather conditions. automatic control of the helicopter when a target is detected solves the problem of bringing the device to the design point and using the weapon chosen by the crew automatically, directly, an optional combat RTK and also, in the Union), in principle an ideal, but already technically old, machine !!!
  • fiberboard
    fiberboard April 21 2021 04: 48
    0
    Interestingly, and the Yakovlev Design Bureau is now creating combat vehicles?