Necessary actions of Russia in the event of an attack by Ukraine on Donbass

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In the event of an attack by the Armed Forces of Ukraine on the territory of the DPR and LPR, Russia, first of all, must immediately announce through all diplomatic channels about the protection of the Russian-speaking population and citizens of Russia living in the territories exposed to attacks from the Ukrainian Armed Forces. It is also necessary to propose to the President of Ukraine to immediately stop hostilities and return to the line of demarcation of forces before the resumption of the armed conflict.

The authorities of the DPR and LPR must be informed that Russia will support these state formations by all military, economic and diplomatic methods, up to the recognition of their state sovereignty.



Russia should take these actions very quickly, since the DPR and LPR do not have enough resources for a long-term confrontation with the Ukrainian Armed Forces.

Air campaign


Then Russia, without waiting for a response from the supreme authorities of Ukraine, must launch an air campaign against Ukraine.

Ukraine has only 125 aircraft built before 1991. The service life of these aircraft was extended, but they were not upgraded. In addition, only the MiG-29 and Su-27 are adapted for air combat, which make up only a third of the air fleet of the Armed Forces of the Armed Forces. The remaining aircraft of the Air Force of the Armed Forces of Ukraine are attack aircraft, bombers and special-purpose aircraft. therefore aviation Ukraine will be an easy target in aerial combat.

While Russia has 3,5 thousand aircraft, of which about 1,5 thousand are fighters, aircraft for conquering air supremacy. Part of the named amount is under repair and modernization.

However, Russia has fully operational ones: Su-57 - 20 units, Su-35 - 70 units, Su-27 - 101 units, Su-30 - 101 units, MiG-29 - 120 units, MiG- 31 - 90 units, Su-34 - 122 units, Su-24 - 120 units, Su-25 - 195 units.

Of course, only no more than half of them can be used in Donbass. For it is necessary to cover other parts of the country. But even they are quite enough to gain air supremacy. Someone will argue that the Su-34 and Su-24 are not suitable for this. But, anticipating this criticism, I will say that this technique will come in handy for the elimination of the AFU air bases.

In addition, the air defense of Ukraine is also from the times of the USSR, and therefore can be eliminated in the first hours of the conflict. The most serious part of the air defense of Ukraine is the S-300 complexes in the amount of 250 units. But they were created before 1991 and are intended only for large winged high-altitude or against ballistic targets. Consequently, outdated modifications of the S-300, with proper elaboration, should not become a big obstacle for the RF Air Force and the RF Ground Forces missile forces.

Then it is logical to deliver strikes by airplanes and cruise missiles across the entire infrastructure of Ukraine, with the exception of nuclear power plants. The nuclear power plant should not be touched due to the excessively harsh reaction from abroad, as well as the risk of radioactive contamination of its own western territories. Transport hubs bordering Europe should be destroyed to prevent supplies from the West, ports and airports, thermal power plants, bridges, hydraulic structures, buildings in which authorities are located, primarily the supreme authorities of Ukraine, military educational institutions, warehouses of weapons and fuel, military factories , shopping and office centers, markets and, of course, the ground troops of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.

Work of this kind for several weeks or months will make it possible to bomb Ukraine into the state of what is now Libya and Somalia. There will be no investment climate, no trade, no currency other than foreign, there will be no social, medical or pension provision, no electricity and water supply for the population, no capable authorities, both at the supreme level and at the local level. There will be only armed groups controlling this or that area. And the population will quickly run from Ukraine wherever they look. The air campaign should go on until someone gets tired of it. Russia will get tired of the air campaign when organized resistance disappears in Ukraine. And Ukraine will get tired of it when the local authorities lose the levers of control over territories and troops.

Occupy left-bank Ukraine, Odessa, Kherson and Nikolaev


The ground campaign should begin only after the disappearance of any organized resistance, and should end with the occupation of the left-bank Ukraine, Odessa, Kherson and Nikolaev, but no more. Conducting a ground offensive before the end of the air campaign is inappropriate due to the risk of increased losses in the ranks of the LPRN troops.

Accordingly, civilian infrastructure facilities on the left bank of Ukraine should not be damaged during the air campaign. That is, from the very beginning, the air company must go against the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the left-bank Ukraine, and against the civil infrastructure and authorities in the right-bank Ukraine. At the same time, all engineering, technical and social institutions should remain in the eastern left-bank Ukraine for the normal functioning of civil society.

The issue of building state power on the territory of the left-bank Ukraine after the successful completion of the air and ground campaigns is a topic for a separate study.

It is advisable to start an air campaign against the Armed Forces of Ukraine not earlier than the completion of SP-2. Although Russia assisted the LDNR in 2014 and 2015, that is, even before the completion of the JV-1 and Turkish Stream. Of course, in this scenario, the ruble will fall below the floor in foreign markets. But I assure you that the hryvnia will fall even more.

It should be understood that the country's military security is more expensive than Western sanctions. At the same time, NATO's military intervention in the conflict between Russia and Ukraine, in general, is out of the question.

But if it happens, then Russia's GDP will become the same as the GDP of NATO countries.
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  1. +8
    April 19 2021 10: 08
    But if it happens, then Russia's GDP will become the same as the GDP of NATO countries.

    The same level.
    1. +21
      April 19 2021 10: 19
      Quote: professor
      But if it happens, then Russia's GDP will become the same as the GDP of NATO countries.

      Achinea in the article is transcendental! fool How will Russia's GDP equal to that of NATO countries? Take, for example, Germany, which significantly surpasses Russia in its GDP, and add the US gross product to it. I don't stutter about other NATO countries at all.
      1. +43
        April 19 2021 10: 26
        The author implies that after NATO's intervention in the conflict there will be an escalation and mutual exchange of vigorous courtesies, in such a context I am inclined to agree that the GDP of all large countries on the ball will really equalize somewhere in the "0" region.
        1. -1
          April 19 2021 10: 49
          Quote: Forcecom
          The author implies that after NATO's intervention in the conflict, there will be an escalation and a mutual exchange of vigorous courtesies

          This will not come from the word NEVER. Let's imagine that NATO introduces its contingent into the territory of Ukraine (at its request, of course). And he is conducting hostilities in the territories of the unrecognized (including Russia) Republics. Moreover, the war is being waged with "conventional" weapons and not a single NATO soldier crosses the Russian border. And what do you think Russia will respond with a nuclear strike? Of course not!
          1. +9
            April 19 2021 11: 42
            the concept of "never" is not applicable to human history, over the past 3 thousand years, many things "impossible in principle" have happened by the poet; the plot with the beginning of the First Nuclear Station based on the events in Donbass is one of the theoretical options for the development of events with a probability different from 0. Another question, that well, it nafig.
            1. +6
              April 19 2021 16: 04
              Quote: Forcecom
              the plot with the beginning of the First Nuclear Station based on the events in Donbass is one of the theoretical scenarios for the development of events with a probability different from 0.

              Just with the probability "-0". Under no circumstances will the EU agree to this - they do not care deeply about our problems. If only they were not touched
              1. +3
                April 19 2021 16: 14
                Do you have full inside information from the highest echelons of power of all parties involved? I suspect not. Then there is no need to declare categorically about anything, there is a chance for any scenario, the second question is how scanty it is.
                1. +4
                  April 19 2021 16: 19
                  Quote: Forcecom
                  Do you have full inside information from the highest echelons of power of all parties involved?

                  I think that a well-fed burgher sitting in a pub in Munich is deeply indifferent to your attempts - the beer is warming up laughing
                  1. +3
                    April 19 2021 16: 30
                    I think that not a well-fed burgher in Munich will solve such issues as, in fact, I am sure that no one will take an interest in your opinion, (as well as mine) they will simply be presented with the fact that at the current moment in history, events will develop in this and that way ... They will disperse to the corners (which is most likely) - glory to Allah, they will make a completely extreme decision - we will recognize by the signal "Attention to All" distributed from the network of city announcers.
                    1. -2
                      April 19 2021 16: 31
                      Quote: Forcecom
                      not a well-fed burgher in Munich will deal with such issues

                      Not him, but the beer will be taken away from him. And he chooses power, it's dangerous to make him angry
                      1. +4
                        April 19 2021 16: 33
                        in case of an extreme decision, he can of course get angry, for 10-15 minutes, but I don't think that this will seriously bother anyone.
                      2. +3
                        April 19 2021 17: 49
                        Quote: Silvestr
                        And he chooses power, it's dangerous to make him angry

                        In our country, it means that everything is forged in the elections, but the burgher just chooses. So spiritually, democratically. Don't tell my slippers, I still have to wear them. The burgher also gets what was chosen for him.
                      3. -8
                        April 19 2021 19: 22
                        Quote: Mitroha
                        It means that everything is faked in the elections,

                        Even too lazy to show a screen with 146% or vote on the constitution on a park bench
                      4. 0
                        April 19 2021 19: 44
                        About an honest burgher, the voice of everyone is taken into account, show me, I myself know about mine
                      5. +1
                        April 20 2021 20: 40
                        Quote: Silvestr
                        Quote: Forcecom
                        not a well-fed burgher in Munich will deal with such issues

                        Not him, but the beer will be taken away from him. And he chooses power, it's dangerous to make him angry

                        Nobody chooses anyone there anymore.
                  2. 0
                    April 20 2021 16: 48
                    90% of Germans and French do not care deeply about the problem of Ukrainians, and they in their right mind will never go there. That's just the problem, the special services and the Armed Forces of these countries do not obey, in fact, these burghers and mayors and even the heads of the German lands. I think they and Merkel have very limited obedience.
          2. +1
            April 20 2021 23: 15
            And what do you think Russia will respond with a nuclear strike? Of course not!

            Of course! Including the places of decision-making.
            You can be sure.
        2. 0
          April 19 2021 16: 02
          Quote: Forcecom
          mutual exchange of vigorous pleasantries,

          Then you need not talk about GDP, but about whether there is life on Mars? laughing
          1. +4
            April 19 2021 16: 32
            you try to laugh - but you are not very good at it, and not greasy and not subtle, just in no way.
            1. -2
              April 19 2021 16: 42
              Quote: Forcecom
              you try to laugh - but you are not very good at it, and not greasy and not subtle, just in no way.

              But it is clear, what can be the GDP after this?
      2. +16
        April 19 2021 10: 30
        the ruble will fall below the floor in foreign markets. But I assure you that the hryvnia will fall even more.
        It was strong ... Let our house burn down, but we will burn down the shed for our neighbor. The author sculpted an article at recess at school, not otherwise - youthful excitement and maximalism just goes off scale ...
        1. +12
          April 19 2021 10: 57
          Quote: WHAT IS
          It was strong ... Let our house burn down, but we will burn down the shed for our neighbor. The author sculpted an article at recess at school, not otherwise - youthful excitement and maximalism just goes off scale ...

          I am very sorry, but it seems to me that the author smoked something stale.
          1. +5
            April 19 2021 11: 30
            Or a vyunosh, or one who fell into childhood could write such a thing. The ending is generally powerful.
          2. -1
            April 19 2021 16: 05
            Quote: Malyuta
            the author smoked something stale.

            Or ate
            1. +1
              April 19 2021 18: 58
              Quote: Silvestr
              Quote: Malyuta
              the author smoked something stale.

              Or ate

              ate what I didn’t smoke
              1. 0
                April 19 2021 23: 00
                What the author wrote is provocative nonsense. I think so. hi
        2. -1
          April 20 2021 07: 46
          Quote: WHAT IS
          The author sculpted an article at recess at school, not otherwise

          No, the author is not a schoolboy, stopudoff. Most likely a pensioner sitting in line at the clinic then. No.
          The schoolchildren are now in the mood either directly opposite, or generally neutral from the word "fuck".
      3. KCA
        +10
        April 19 2021 10: 34
        The GDP of Western countries is greatly exaggerated, its main part is made up of financial transactions to transfer money from one pocket to another, as in the anecdote:
        Two American businessmen walk in the park and see dog poop
        -Billy, would you eat them for a million dollars?
        -Of course Johnny, picks up and eats
        They go on and see a bunch more, well, Billy felt hurt
        -Johnny, and you would eat this heap for a million dollars
        -Of course
        They go on and somehow they feel hurt
        - Johnny, it turns out that you and I ate dog poop for free?
        - Yes, Billy, but we were involved in a two million dollar deal!
        1. 0
          April 19 2021 11: 03
          Quote: KCA
          - Johnny, it turns out that you and I ate dog poop for free?
          - Yes, Billy, but we were involved in a two million dollar deal!

          good Yes
          An example of the bloated potential of the United States, the overwhelming part of which is based on stock exchange speculations that have nothing to do with the real sector of the economy
          1. +5
            April 19 2021 19: 00
            Quote: Insurgent
            An example of the bloated potential of the United States, the overwhelming part of which is based on stock exchange speculations that have nothing to do with the real sector of the economy

            Of course it is inflated - it produces the richest oil in the world. flies into space. computers and the entire Internet from there, armed forces are the strongest in the world. aircraft carriers. aircraft. The nuclear submarine prints like a photocopier - and everything goes there --- Russia is real -. States are inflated.
            Sur full.
            1. -2
              April 19 2021 20: 21
              And do not tell me how much "green paper" is spinning in the world? Yes, yes, it is paper that is not backed by anything.
              1. +25
                April 19 2021 20: 47
                Quote: TOR2
                And do not tell me how much "green paper" is spinning in the world? Yes, yes, it is paper that is not backed by anything.

                Can't you buy anything with these papers?
              2. +5
                April 19 2021 20: 52
                Quote: TOR2
                And do not tell me how much "green paper" is spinning in the world? Yes, yes, it is paper that is not backed by anything.

                Well, I would look at your eyes full of happiness. find you a pack of such unsecured paper.
                1. 0
                  April 19 2021 23: 46
                  I would look at your eyes after this cycle stops and what this pack has become. If you think it can't stop, then you don't know well how it works.
                  1. +2
                    April 20 2021 08: 37
                    Well, firstly - you did not answer the first question - if you had found a pack of bucks now, you would have thrown out this (in your opinion) unsecured paper, and secondly, an expert - how it works - first answer the first question.
                    Yap you my friend.
                    1. 0
                      April 21 2021 18: 21
                      Quote: atalef
                      Well, first of all - you didn't answer the first question -

                      The answer is - I would return it to the owner. Don't judge everyone by yourself ...
                  2. 0
                    April 20 2021 11: 42
                    Quote: TOR2
                    after this cycle stops and what this pack has become.


                    First, when this cycle stops, everyone will be sour. So sour that everything else will fade against this background.

                    Secondly, with the current economic realities, the circulation of dollars will stop at the very last place, after the circulation of all other currencies stops.
                    1. 0
                      April 21 2021 18: 40
                      No Armageddon will happen. Even according to the IMF, the share of the dollar in foreign exchange reserves fell to 59%. The maximum this indicator was in 2001, I don’t remember exactly where it was 75%.
                      There is a negative trend.
                      1. 0
                        April 29 2021 19: 47
                        So the fact is that other currencies depend on the dollar, and not he on them. So they mistakenly believe that "from, the dollar will collapse, and 41% will remain." There won't be. It will only begin to collapse when the rest of the currencies are near the bottom already.
      4. +4
        April 19 2021 10: 58
        Necessary actions of Russia in the event of an attack by Ukraine on Donbass

        Quote: Proxima
        Achinea in the article is transcendental!


        I will not analyze the content of the article (I will not replace the General Staff of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation and the political leadership of the country), but only note that in reality Russia can do.

        In my understanding - to put an end to the criminal and hostile regime of the junta once and for all.

        Everything you need for this is available.
        1. -3
          April 19 2021 11: 18
          How do you propose to do this? You understand, as soon as military operations go beyond the territory of the LPNR, then even that significant part of the population that still sympathizes with Russia will have to take up arms to counter the aggressor ...
          1. +4
            April 19 2021 11: 21
            Quote: No name B
            How do you propose to do this? You understand, as soon as military operations go beyond the territory of the LPNR, then even that significant part of the population that still sympathizes with Russia will have to take up arms to counter the aggressor ...


            You carefully read my comment?

            Quote: Insurgent

            I will not analyze the content of the article (I will not replace the General Staff of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation and the political leadership of the country)


            And what does it mean - "even that significant part of the population that still sympathizes with Russia will be forced to take up arms to counter the aggressor"?

            This did not happen even in Nazi Germany..
            1. -2
              April 19 2021 15: 21

              In my understanding - to put an end to the criminal and hostile regime of the junta once and for all.

              Everything you need for this is available.
              Reply

              So I'm wondering what is your understanding?
              What was going to happen in Nazi Germany? In 1945, when did the Germans meet the Red Army?
              The analogies with fascist Germany are completely inappropriate here, but if Russia and the LPNR leave their borders, then the majority of the Ukrainian population will rise to fight them. And Ukraine will finally turn its back on Russia, forever and ever, time has already passed.
              1. +8
                April 19 2021 16: 08
                Quote: No name B
                if Russia and the LDNR leave their borders, then the majority of the population of Ukraine will rise to fight them.

                A woman from Debaltsevo works on the watch. I asked and replied: everyone was tired, at least to Ukrainian, at least to Russian, but by the end
                1. 0
                  April 20 2021 06: 56
                  Quote: Silvestr
                  A woman from Debaltsevo works on the watch. I asked and replied: everyone was tired, at least to Ukrainian, at least to Russian, but by the end

                  The opinion of an individual person is, of course, important, and it must be borne in mind, but you do not know the mood of several million people living with us.
                  By the way, Pushilin announced his intention to hold another referendum, which should dot the " i "
                  1. +1
                    April 20 2021 08: 41
                    Quote: Insurgent
                    Quote: Silvestr
                    A woman from Debaltsevo works on the watch. I asked and replied: everyone was tired, at least to Ukrainian, at least to Russian, but by the end

                    The opinion of an individual person is, of course, important, and it must be borne in mind, but you do not know the mood of several million people living with us.
                    By the way, Pushilin announced his intention to hold another referendum, which should dot the " i "

                    This referendum will cost exactly the same and have the same legal force as the referendum of the village of Gadyukino on joining Luxembourg
              2. -2
                April 19 2021 17: 45
                Quote: No name B
                What was going to happen in Nazi Germany? In 1945, when did the Germans meet the Red Army?

                And in Germany, at a certain moment it came - breaking.

                Quote: No name B
                The analogies with fascist Germany are completely inappropriate here, but if Russia and the LPNR leave their borders, then the majority of the Ukrainian population will rise to fight them. And Ukraine will finally turn its back on Russia, forever and ever, time has already passed.


                Clearly clear enough Yes And it is so clear that you are from the outskirts, and in this way you are trying to frighten both us and Russia.

                Don't bother ... No one will attack you, unless of course you yourself twitch.
                It would be better to convince their Banderlog not to toil with garbage, but to collect money.
              3. +1
                April 19 2021 17: 52
                Quote: No name B
                then the majority of the population of Ukraine will rise to fight them

                These are just your speculations.
                Quote: No name B
                And Ukraine will finally turn its back on Russia, forever and ever,

                And now the Nazis and the corrupt elite are leading Ukraine to this?
                1. +22
                  April 19 2021 20: 49
                  Quote: Mitroha
                  And now the Nazis and the corrupt elite are leading Ukraine to this?

                  And the people are silent?
              4. +1
                April 19 2021 23: 07
                Quote: No name B
                but if Russia and the LDNR leave their borders, then the majority of the Ukrainian population will rise to fight them. ...
                In 2014-2015, mobilizations were carried out in Ukraine, SEVERAL MOBILIZATIONS ...
                And how many "conscripts" came to the military registration and enlistment offices? ... soldier
            2. +2
              April 19 2021 16: 06
              Quote: Insurgent
              This did not happen even in Nazi Germany.

              And the Bandera people ran and killed until the 54th
              1. -3
                April 19 2021 17: 39
                Quote: Silvestr
                And the Bandera people ran and killed until the 54th

                On memory.
          2. +1
            April 19 2021 15: 05
            No one will undertake anything if they turn off the Kiev translator of Nazi propaganda and stop the financing of Nazism.
            1. -2
              April 19 2021 16: 09
              Quote: Andrey Grad
              if you turn off the Kiev translator

              Are you on the switch? Turn it off!
            2. -1
              April 19 2021 18: 00
              Quote: Andrey Grad
              No one will undertake anything if they turn off the Kiev translator of Nazi propaganda and stop the financing of Nazism.

              Who would turn off the fucking idiots like the author?
            3. -1
              April 21 2021 15: 38
              Quote: Andrey Grad
              No one will undertake anything if they turn off the Kiev translator of Nazi propaganda and stop the financing of Nazism.

              looked for information on several federal programs. What can I say.
              Yes, if they were shown among the neighbors, the level of hatred for Russia was much higher. There is also a continuous wave of threats, plans for a small victorious war, humiliation of citizens and the country itself, accusations of the country and every Ukrainian. It is strange that Kiev does not use these things, protecting it from such pumping. Money is thrown into hatred there - Kiev simply does not have such things and never will.
          3. -2
            April 19 2021 17: 46
            Quote: No name B
            How do you propose to do this?

            The comrade wrote that he did not understand a damn thing about the strategy and plans of the leadership. But - "Carthage must be destroyed." It is not clear how, by whom and when, but - "we must end this!", "How long ??" etc.
        2. Cat
          +10
          April 19 2021 11: 22
          what in reality can Russia do.

          This is a rare case when possibilities exceed desires. I think the most that the leadership of the Russian Federation will do is to introduce troops into the territory of the republics under the guise of peacekeepers in order to end the hot phase. And then there will be endless diplomatic chatter.
          1. -1
            April 19 2021 17: 49
            Quote: Gato
            I think the maximum that the leadership of the Russian Federation will do is to introduce troops into the territory of the republics under the guise of peacekeepers.

            Why haven't you introduced it so far?
            1. Cat
              +1
              April 19 2021 18: 51
              As you can imagine, I cannot answer this question. For me, this is also a mystery, as well as the issue of recognition of the republics. Let them remain rhetorical, and I just expressed my personal opinion.
              1. -1
                April 19 2021 22: 00
                Quote: Gato
                For me, this is also a mystery, like the issue of recognition of the republics.

                What's mysterious about that? The conflict is in the stage of alternating freeze-unfreeze. We don't need Ukraine in NATO, you know. And the people there at the top, in general, do not care. As usual, though. All these populist ideas of the "Russian world" and "we do not abandon our own" - for the plebs.
        3. 0
          April 19 2021 13: 03
          Quote: Insurgent
          In my understanding - to put an end to the criminal and hostile regime of the junta once and for all.

          Everything you need for this is available

          More than once from the highest rostrum it has been declared - "there is no alternative to the Minsk agreements!" And there you can wait and hope for something, but you can not, but the Kremlin has already decided everything for a long time.
        4. +1
          April 19 2021 19: 02
          Quote: Insurgent
          my understanding is to end completely the criminal and hostile regime of the junta.

          Are you talking about the power of the LDNR?
          In Ukraine, there has been no junta for a long time, and it never existed.
          Moreover, what does it matter to you, you are kind of independent. deal with yours.
          1. 0
            April 20 2021 12: 36
            Moreover, what does it matter to you, you are kind of independent. deal with yours.

            Xoxlostan may be at least three times independent, but it is included in the sphere of influence of Russia. Today Russia in the aftermath is able to prevent either the strengthening of the Banderlog or their entry into anti-Russian alliances.

            If the question of the Baltic states' joining NATO were resolved today, they would not have entered anywhere - earlier there would have been a civil war there. Maybe cynical, but life is like that.

            And "to deal with your own" is generally a separate conversation.
        5. 0
          April 25 2021 09: 00
          Quote: Insurgent
          I will just note what Russia can do in reality.

          In my understanding - to put an end to the criminal and hostile regime of the junta once and for all.

          In my understanding, this is the end of the Putin regime
      5. -2
        April 19 2021 11: 01
        Quote: Proxima
        Take, for example, Germany, which significantly surpasses Russia in its GDP.

        Why do you think so? In terms of purchasing power parity, the GDPs of both countries have quite comparable indicators, in fact they go head to head, if in dollar terms, then Germany is ahead, but in Germany, domestic prices are not comparable to Russian ...
        1. +4
          April 19 2021 16: 12
          Quote: bistrov.
          indicators actually go head to head


          Yeah
          1. -4
            April 19 2021 18: 29
            Quote: Silvestr
            Yeah

            Honey, have you read my comment carefully?
            Why are you poking your pictures at me?
            Pay 42% of income tax from this salary and calculate what is left, then subtract about 800-900 euros for renting an apartment and utilities, from the remaining monthly payments for a car and buying gasoline about 400 euros, then medical insurance about 300 euros, food of about 300 euros, etc. = in total, you need about 2700 euros of monthly expenses, you did not even meet the remaining amount, and if you have to have your teeth treated, you will have to pay part of the cost of filling and dental prosthetics, usually about 50%
            1. +3
              April 19 2021 19: 06
              Quote: bistrov.
              Pay 42% of income tax from this salary and calculate what is left, then subtract about 800-900 euros for renting an apartment and utilities, from the remaining monthly payments for a car and buying gasoline about 400 euros, then medical insurance about 300 euros, food of about 300 euros, etc. = in total, you need about 2700 euros of monthly expenses, you did not even meet the remaining amount, and if you have to have your teeth treated, you will have to pay part of the cost of filling and dental prosthetics, usually about 50%

              dumb bazaar, only the people of something in Germany lomitschya. and not from Germany to Russia, probably because you are the only one so smart. laughing
              1. -2
                April 20 2021 05: 02
                Quote: atalef
                only the people of something to Germany lomitschya.

                Yes, okay, now is not the 90s, but, if people like you left, we would only be glad, we are already tired of our gnawing, and "your salary is small" and "there is no freedom here" ... . Go ..., taste the "delights of Western life" ....
                1. +2
                  April 20 2021 08: 34
                  Quote: bistrov.
                  Quote: atalef
                  only the people of something to Germany lomitschya.

                  Yes, okay, now is not the 90s, but, if people like you left, we would only be glad, we are already tired of our gnawing, and "your salary is small" and "there is no freedom here" ... . Go ..., taste the "delights of Western life" ....

                  Yes, I have been enjoying these delights for the last 30 years.
                  And I am very satisfied.
            2. +1
              April 19 2021 19: 19
              Quote: bistrov.
              then you will have to pay part of the cost of filling and dental prosthetics, usually about 50%

              I now pay 100% for this position. And no need to say that they live there worse
            3. 0
              April 25 2021 09: 08
              Quote: bistrov.
              Pay 42% of income tax from this salary and calculate what is left, then subtract about 800-900 euros for renting an apartment and utilities, from the remaining monthly payments for a car and buying gasoline about 400 euros, then medical insurance about 300 euros, food of about 300 euros, etc. = in total, you need about 2700 euros of monthly expenses, you did not even meet the remaining amount, and if you have to have your teeth treated, you will have to pay part of the cost of filling and dental prosthetics, usually about 50%

              And how do they manage to live there poor? Especially killed 300 euros for food.
            4. 0
              16 January 2022 23: 52
              of the remaining monthly installments for the car
              And in Russia cars are given away for free belay ?
          2. -3
            April 20 2021 02: 43
            Quote: Silvestr
            Yeah


            a domestic pig lives more satisfying and safer than a wild boar, albeit without eggs and until the American owner decides to slaughter him for his own food. If you want to be in the place of this pig, bring it down, no one keeps it.
            1. 0
              April 20 2021 13: 58
              Quote: lopvlad
              Quote: Silvestr
              Yeah


              a domestic pig lives more satisfying and safer than a wild boar, albeit without eggs and until the American owner decides to slaughter him for his own food. If you want to be in the place of this pig, bring it down, no one keeps it.

              Why take a piglet as an example?
              After all, he was originally fed for slaughter.
              Something I have not heard that the United States would decide one of its allies like this.
              Maybe take a cat as an example?
              He lives quietly, full, fed, under the protection of the owner, sometimes he drags mice for formality, he lives like this until 15-17 years old.
              While his free street brother, covered in fleas and worms, wanders through the garbage dumps, hungry, shabby, enduring a victim in the corners and will live at best for 5-6 years - but free.
              What do you choose laughing
      6. -1
        April 19 2021 19: 51
        Ahinea is still the same, after "1,5 are fighters", units of 500-600 flying, if it is enough, then it is already buzzing.
        And so from my couch it looks like this, if Ukraine decides to attack, and our people decide to answer, then the outcome will be clear, the only question is how our people decide to reassure.
        If everything that has been pulled to the border is sent, then there will be huge losses on both sides, but in this case, you can pave the way to the Crimea and attach several areas with people and infrastructure.

        Another option, as in 14, Russia officially does not get into the conflict, but supports Donbass with volunteers and others like them, then there will certainly be new boilers and new losses on both sides, but the outcome is that everyone will remain with their own people and everything will drag on.

        And one more option, with minimal losses on both sides, but in fact Ukraine will have nothing to fight with, as the author pointed out, to destroy the infrastructure, or rather enterprises working for the defense industry, oil storage facilities, warehouses, airfields, but with one caveat, to warn the Ukrainian side about strike in a few hours. This time will be enough to evacuate all people, but not enough to save the main equipment and property. And given that almost all equipment is barely breathing, in such conditions the Ukrainian army will not fight much.

        And the best option is that there is no war.
      7. -3
        April 20 2021 07: 41
        The sadness is that many in our country think in a similar way, including those who are in power. People of the older generation, mostly, who still live in a world of illusions about a mighty homeland.
      8. 0
        April 21 2021 15: 02
        Quote: Proxima
        Achinea in the article is transcendental!

        And "professor" - "The same level."

        I FULLY agree with you. Another freaky article from the Barnaul author of the delusional idea of ​​dragging SSBNs into the lakes, hiding them in the pits and - thereby - disarming Russia, but saving a dozen submarines. Although a number of suggestions are obvious and not bad, the article as a whole is at the level of an eighth grader.
    2. -3
      April 19 2021 10: 39
      Great comment!)
      1. -3
        April 19 2021 11: 17
        Quote: Andrey Nikolaevich
        Great comment!)

        KSA did not exaggerate anything especially with its joking post. Let's imagine a very serious situation. The whore of an official brothel of some Hamburg made mines to a German for 100 euros. That is, the GDP of Germany with the help of this priestess of love has grown by 100 euros! fellow drinks The question is, did Germany get rich from such an increase in GDP? The answer is no, it's just that this money almost entirely migrated from the pocket of the burgher into the pocket of the prostitute. It's just that when we used to compare the GDP of the USSR and the USA, and the GDP of the former was slightly inferior to the American one, we said "catch up and overtake". But the GDP of the United States, like that of any other capitalist country, was inflated at the expense of the service sector. In the USSR, however, it reflected a real reproduced product, and the service sector in the Soviet Union figured as minuscule. So, comparing the GDP is a very relative matter.
        1. +4
          April 19 2021 11: 34
          What is the service sector in today's Russia? And what is the industrial sector?
          1. -1
            April 19 2021 16: 13
            Quote: 210ox
            What is the service sector in today's Russia?

            Quote: Proxima
            The whore of the official brothel
            ?
            Nobody knows the roof doesn't leak
        2. +2
          April 19 2021 12: 23
          I was always surprised when I read that industrial production in the late USSR was at the level of 75-80% of the American, but the USSR's GDP was only 30-40% of the American.
        3. +8
          April 19 2021 14: 13
          Since the beginning of the year, prices per square meter of housing have almost doubled, does our GDP also jump up? True, its own currency has fallen in price by 20%, but these are trifles.
        4. +4
          April 19 2021 19: 07
          Quote: Proxima
          KSA did not exaggerate anything especially with its joking post. Let's imagine a very serious situation. The whore of an official brothel of some Hamburg made mines to a German for 100 euros. That is, the GDP of Germany with the help of this priestess of love has grown by 100 euros! The question is, did Germany get rich from such an increase in GDP?

          but on a serious note. Someone to the level of Germany to suck and suck
    3. +8
      April 19 2021 12: 30
      Su57-20pcs? ????? What is this written? A joke, or an author's dreams? ?? Where did he dig these 20 planes? ??
    4. 0
      April 20 2021 20: 44
      Russia must! The author is wonderful! Will the author also feed tens of millions? Or should the Russian Vanka put a bratsy narot on his neck again? As soon as we begin to live and again such happiness ..
  2. +8
    April 19 2021 10: 11
    The author of course will be the first to capture the city? Or will it tryndet from the couch?
    1. -11
      April 19 2021 10: 19
      Quote: Bad
      The author will of course go first to capture the city?

      your suggestion?
      1. -17
        April 19 2021 10: 34
        Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
        your suggestion?

        If Ukraine attacks Ukraine and Russian citizens on the territory of Ukraine are in danger, then Russian citizens should be evacuated to Russia. So logic tells me.
        1. +10
          April 19 2021 10: 43
          Quote: professor
          So logic tells me.

          Why doesn't your logic work in Israel? If you follow it, then you should have scattered all over the world long ago. laughing
          1. -1
            April 19 2021 12: 12
            Quote: Boris55
            Quote: professor
            So logic tells me.

            Why doesn't your logic work in Israel? If you follow it, then you should have scattered all over the world long ago. laughing

            Even logic works very well. At one time, all the Jews were taken out of Yemen, then the operation to export Jews from Ethiopia, which did not have an analogue to the world, then Soviet Jews were accepted ON OWN territory.

            Israel always sends aid for its citizens and brings them home to Israel. Moreover, even when a single tourist disappears somewhere in the jungles of South America, Israeli rescuers and search engines rush there and return the Israeli to Israel. This is the logic of the state's concern for its citizens. There will be a war in Ukraine and Israel will also take its citizens out of it. Do not hesitate for a second.
            1. +4
              April 19 2021 12: 29
              Quote: professor
              then Soviet Jews were accepted ON their territory.

              Many thanks to Israel for this.
              1. -1
                April 19 2021 13: 08
                Quote: tihonmarine
                Quote: professor
                then Soviet Jews were accepted ON their territory.

                Many thanks to Israel for this.

                And thank you for creating unbearable living conditions. Now we have teachers, engineers, doctors and other talented people. good
                1. -1
                  April 19 2021 14: 26
                  Quote: professor
                  And thank you for creating unbearable living conditions.

                  forgive, for whom ?!
                  1. +1
                    April 19 2021 15: 24
                    Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
                    forgive, for whom ?!

                    He will not answer.
                  2. -4
                    April 19 2021 15: 27
                    Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
                    Quote: professor
                    And thank you for creating unbearable living conditions.

                    forgive, for whom ?!

                    For those who left.

                    Quote: tihonmarine
                    Quote: professor
                    And thank you for creating unbearable living conditions. Now we have teachers, engineers, doctors and other talented people.

                    So you agree, everyone is happy. Better we will go to visit each other, but we will live separately.

                    Better you haven't lived since then. But. what
                    1. 0
                      April 19 2021 15: 31
                      Quote: professor
                      For those who left.

                      Well, for Christ's sake, why write this nonsense ?!
                      can you give specific examples of unbearable living conditions?
                      1. -2
                        April 19 2021 18: 53
                        Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
                        Quote: professor
                        For those who left.

                        Well, for Christ's sake, why write this nonsense ?!
                        can you give specific examples of unbearable living conditions?

                        Easily.
                      2. 0
                        April 19 2021 20: 26
                        firstly, this is what and where
                        secondly, is it public policy or is it a crime?
                      3. -2
                        April 20 2021 06: 11
                        Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
                        firstly, this is what and where
                        secondly, is it public policy or is it a crime?

                        https://www.alexanderyakovlev.org/fond/issues/62107
                      4. +1
                        April 20 2021 08: 33
                        I mean that you are giving a link to this bastard, I kind of also lived with the union and, as it were, I know that it was and I had plenty of Jewish friends
                      5. 0
                        April 20 2021 08: 59
                        Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
                        I mean that you are giving a link to this bastard, I kind of also lived with the union and, as it were, I know that it was and I had plenty of Jewish friends

                        1. I'll link you to archival documents gave
                        2. Did you have Jewish friends? Wonderful. So it won't be difficult for you to answer a couple of questions.
                        * They had the opportunity study in a Jewish school?
                        * - // - go to the Jewish theater?
                        * - // - visit the Jewish library?
                        * - // - observe Jewish traditions?
                        * - // - visit holy places for Jews?
                        * - // - to be married by a Jewish marriage?
                        * - // - walk in a kippah?
                        * - // - visit Jewish organizations?
                        * - // - read Jewish newspapers?
                        * - // - learn Hebrew?
                        * - // - go to Jewish music concerts?
                        * - // - observe kosher?
                        * - // - get a special or higher education in your native language?
                      6. +1
                        April 20 2021 09: 49
                        Quote: professor
                        go to the Jewish theater?

                        I understand that you are sucking nonsense out of your finger?
                        what do you think
                        what is this photo?!
                        Quote: professor
                        visit a Jewish library?

                        you need to be treated
                        Quote: professor
                        to observe Jewish traditions?

                        and what was not given, they were immediately dragged into the gas chambers for observing the traditions of their ancestors ?!
                        Quote: professor
                        to marry a Jewish marriage?

                        are you generally adequate ?!
                        in fact, even now you cannot combine with a national marriage (any), you can hold a wedding in national traditions, but registration will be in accordance with state laws
                        Quote: professor
                        observe kashrut?

                        they forced you to eat pork, go get medical treatment
                        Quote: professor
                        to get a special or higher education in your native language?

                        treat yourself dear, treat yourself, although in your case ...
                        so oppressed the Jews so oppressed that




                        further lazily
                      7. -2
                        April 20 2021 13: 29
                        Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
                        I understand that you are sucking nonsense out of your finger?

                        For you this is nonsense, but for us this is life.

                        Since you did not answer, then I will answer:
                        * Did they have the opportunity to study in a Jewish school? No, all Jewish schools were closed. Millions of Jews in the USSR did not have a single Jewish school.
                        * - // - go to the Jewish theater? Not. In all regional centers and in almost all capitals of the Union republics, Jewish theaters were closed.
                        * - // - visit the Jewish library? Not. Jewish libraries were closed. There were Russian libraries in Azerbaijan, but Jewish ones were closed.
                        * - // - observe Jewish traditions? Not. Great power chauvinism did not allow this.
                        * - // - visit holy places for Jews? Not. For communication with Jews outside the USSR, they were punished and there was no question of visiting Jerusalem.
                        * - // - to be married by a Jewish marriage? Not. The synagogues were closed and there was no one to conduct the chuppah.
                        * - // - walk in a kippah? Not. At best, they would peck
                        * - // - visit Jewish organizations? Not. For this they put me in camps.
                        * - // - read Jewish newspapers? Not. They were closed.
                        * - // - learn Hebrew? Not. This is a criminal case. Tell Edelstein.
                        * - // - go to Jewish music concerts? Not. They were not allowed.
                        * - // - observe kosher? Not. Kosher food stores have closed.
                        * - // - get a special or higher education in your native language? Not. The Yiddish institutes were closed.

                        Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
                        treat yourself dear, treat yourself, although in your case ...

                        As required. The man simply wanted to remain a Jew, and you send him "to be treated".
                      8. 0
                        April 20 2021 14: 19
                        when you want to know both the culture and everything else (how many Russian public schools were there in paris?), but when there is only one desire - you start to cry out who is trying to spread rot for you
                        once again for the latter, I was born and lived in the USSR and had a lot of Jewish acquaintances, so leave your cry of Yaroslavna for the Israeli embassy
                      9. -1
                        April 20 2021 15: 46
                        Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
                        when you want to know both the culture and everything else (how many Russian public schools were there in paris?), but when there is only one desire - you start to cry out who is trying to spread rot for you

                        An excellent example. Of the hundreds of thousands of White Guards and emigrants to France who simply disagree with the Soviet regime, today ... a couple of dozen people are bearers of Russian culture. They had no desire to preserve their culture. In the scoop with the Jews, it was exactly the opposite. They wanted to preserve OUR culture, but the state did everything possible to prevent this from happening.

                        Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
                        once again for the latter, I was born and lived in the USSR and had a lot of Jewish acquaintances, so leave your cry of Yaroslavna for the Israeli embassy

                        Who did you have in the USSR is irrelevant. The policy of state anti-Semitism in the USSR is on the face. See examples above.
                      10. 0
                        April 20 2021 17: 08
                        Quote: professor
                        They wanted to preserve OUR culture, but the state did everything possible to prevent this from happening.

                        how old are you?!
                        Quote: professor
                        The policy of state anti-Semitism in the USSR is on the face. See examples above.

                        you just did not give examples, you seem to be one of those offended who rushed for a freebie, and the freebie broke off
                        Quote: professor
                        They wanted to preserve OUR culture, but the state did everything possible to prevent this from happening.

                        when they want to do it and when they don’t want to, they use up an excuse
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                      7. +2
                        April 20 2021 14: 57
                        A complaint may be about what he does on this site. Are there not enough Israelis?
                2. +1
                  April 19 2021 15: 23
                  Quote: professor
                  And thank you for creating unbearable living conditions. Now we have teachers, engineers, doctors and other talented people.

                  So you agree, everyone is happy. Better we will go to visit each other, but we will live separately.
                3. +1
                  April 19 2021 15: 28
                  Quote: professor
                  And thank you for creating unbearable living conditions.

                  My grandfathers remembered the kindness of Trotsky, Sverdlov and especially Blumkin here in Transbaikalia.
                4. +1
                  April 19 2021 16: 15
                  Quote: professor
                  Now we have teachers, engineers, doctors and other talented people.

                  That's for sure! After the opening of the border at the Nikolaev shipyard, the scientific and technological revolution disappeared
              2. -1
                April 19 2021 22: 05
                Quote: tihonmarine
                Many thanks to Israel for this.

                Why is this nerd commentary plus?
                1. +2
                  April 20 2021 08: 25
                  Quote: Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
                  Why is this nerd commentary plus?

                  To do this, you need to be Russian.
                  1. -1
                    April 20 2021 08: 39
                    Quote: tihonmarine
                    Quote: Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
                    Why is this nerd commentary plus?

                    To do this, you need to be Russian.

                    Rather, a Judeophobe. Nationality does not matter. How are you, my dear, different from Lithuanians, Poles and other pseudo-European non-brothers who in 1941 organized Black Hundred Sabbaths under the supervision and approval of the Nazis?
                    1. +1
                      April 20 2021 08: 59
                      Quote: Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
                      Rather, a Judeophobe. Nationality does not matter. How do you, my dear, differ from Lithuanians, Poles and other pseudo-European non-brothers,

                      Well, it was not we who destroyed your people in Babi Yar, but my Transbaikalia still remembers Blumkin's punitive detachments, and when the People's Commissar for Military Affairs introduced decimation in the Red Army - the execution of every tenth soldier along with the commanders.
                      1. 0
                        April 20 2021 09: 23
                        Quote: tihonmarine
                        Well, it was not we who destroyed your people in Babi Yar.

                        My dear, I am as much a Jew as Meehan is an intellectual, or Frolova is a historian.
                        Quote: tihonmarine
                        but my Transbaikalia still remembers Blumkin's punitive detachments

                        Which Blumkin do you mean? Yasha? Which Mirbach spanked? Bright personality. You need to shoot about such movies.
                        Quote: tihonmarine
                        and when the People's Commissariat for Military Affairs introduced decimation in the Red Army - the execution of every tenth soldier along with the commanders.

                        Listen, here is a full site for romantics of the dictatorship of the proletariat and the Red Terror - "it was impossible otherwise !!" Among other things, no documentary evidence of the use systemic there is no decimation, so nothing Trotsky introduced... If you have the appropriate orders for the army - I would be grateful if you can show it. The Sviyazhsky episode was overgrown with memoir moss and Shirokorad's fantasies.
            2. +5
              April 19 2021 14: 26
              Quote: professor
              Israel always sends help for its citizens

              well, take the Jews out of the Palestinian lands
            3. -1
              April 19 2021 17: 58
              Quote: professor
              Israel always sends aid for its citizens and brings them home to Israel

              Something in the Gaza Strip and Jerusalem stalled your evacuation
              1. +2
                April 19 2021 19: 18
                Quote: Mitroha
                Something in the Gaza Strip

                do Jews live in the Gaza Strip?
                Where, if not a secret?
          2. -1
            April 19 2021 12: 28
            Quote: Boris55
            If you follow it, then you should have scattered all over the world long ago.

            Or at least run away from Russia to Israel. And everyone will be happy.
        2. +6
          April 19 2021 10: 45
          Of course there is something in this. But then probably the settlers from the Golan Heights and from Palestine should be evacuated. What does logic tell you about this?
        3. +6
          April 19 2021 11: 00
          So logic tells me.


          Don't listen to her, professor. She didn't sleep well with you. He also advises to return to the Arabs everything taken by Israel and not to meddle in the purely internal affairs of Iran to create a yadren-loaf. wassat
          Sober logic will say - if a threat is growing at your side, it must be eliminated under any pretext.
        4. 0
          April 19 2021 11: 22
          Russian citizens should be evacuated to Russia. So logic tells me.


          Israel's logic with Bandera is the same, namely to bomb kindergartens and schools in response to army losses.
        5. -2
          April 19 2021 11: 25
          Professor, you would tell your western friends that it is not worth getting involved with Russia. Or remind you of the words of our President! About hell and heaven! No one will be left on the sidelines. And who will accept you!
          1. +1
            April 19 2021 19: 19
            Quote: tralflot1832
            remind you of the words of our President! About hell and heaven!

            Well, you have prepared a place for yourself in paradise /. the president agreed
          2. -1
            April 19 2021 22: 14
            Quote: tralflot1832
            Or remind you of the words of our President! About hell and heaven!

            You reread the collection of quotes of your idol at night, praying. He has no, my dear, about hell. The destination of the 'dead' is not specified. laughing
      2. 0
        April 25 2021 09: 12
        Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
        Quote: Bad
        The author will of course go first to capture the city?

        your suggestion?

        My proposal is to send everyone who wants a war with Ukraine to this war, as volunteers, so to speak, and at the same time to Syria.
    2. 0
      April 19 2021 11: 09
      Quote: Bad
      The author of course will be the first to capture the city? Or will it tryndet from the couch?

      A sofa with beer and chips, the most convenient outpost for such "strategic" fabrications.
  3. +4
    April 19 2021 10: 12
    "In the event of an attack by the Armed Forces of Ukraine on the territory of the DPR and LPR, Russia, first of all, must immediately announce through all diplomatic channels about the protection of the Russian-speaking population and citizens of Russia living in the territories exposed to attacks from the Ukrainian Armed Forces ..." (c) This and then it is possible declare. And cut right in.
  4. +1
    April 19 2021 10: 13
    The author, of course, described everything in an interesting way. Plus to him for that. But will the Kremlin want to quarrel with partners?
    1. +1
      April 19 2021 11: 28
      Quote: Gardamir
      But will the Kremlin want to quarrel with partners?


      so partners are no longer partners. Yes, and it is difficult to pretend that everything has remained the same when the leader of the country and, therefore, the whole country, together with the people, overseas gopniks with a flag made of a mattress are called a murderer.
    2. +2
      April 19 2021 17: 14
      Quote: Gardamir
      But will the Kremlin want to quarrel with partners?

      Given that 90% of the NWF of Russia is in debt obligations of foreign states, it will try to maintain partnership relations. But I want to believe in the best ...
      1. 0
        April 19 2021 18: 05
        Quote: Jaromir
        Given that 90% of the NWF of Russia is in debt obligations of foreign states

        First-Lie
        https://minfin.gov.ru/ru/press-center/?id_4=37368-o_rezultatakh_razmeshcheniya_sredstv_fonda_natsionalnogo_blagosostoyaniya
        Secondly, what is wrong with placing in debt securities of different countries, if they are profitable and increase the NWF?
        1. +2
          April 19 2021 18: 12
          Quote: Mitroha
          First-Lie

          First, look at the website of the Ministry of Finance National Wealth Fund section Management Investment rules read the table
          Permitted financial assets defined by the Budget Code of the Russian Federation - debt obligations of foreign states
          Maximum shares established by the Government of the Russian Federation 0-100%
          Regulatory shares approved by the Ministry of Finance of Russia 90%
          https://minfin.gov.ru/ru/perfomance/nationalwealthfund/management/
          Secondly, investing in Western debt obligations is direct financing of foreign states. Wouldn't it be better to use these funds to develop your own economy and industry?
          1. -1
            April 19 2021 18: 20
            On the first, I also gave you the link.
            On the second .... It's not that simple. It is possible to invest in production, and the investments are considerable, but. ... Thanks to the 90s and the vague policy of education and upbringing of a qualified working class, we do not have enough for EXISTING high-tech and not very high-tech production. At our defense plant, after an order from the Ministry of Defense, turners and CNC machines were scraped off all over the city. Investments in production are now not as needed as investments in education, mainly secondary technical. But it is also impossible to forget about the stash, what is the difference between the state and the average person, you always need to have NZ, and NZ should not melt with inflation, but at least correspond to it, hence the GKO
            1. 0
              April 19 2021 19: 21
              Quote: Mitroha
              On the second .... It's not that simple... You can invest in production

              but better to buy IOUs from the Fed. laughing
  5. +7
    April 19 2021 10: 18
    Occupy left-bank Ukraine
    you need to occupy everything except galicia
    1. -3
      April 19 2021 11: 14
      Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
      you need to occupy everything except galicia

      Borrow, report on the results.
      1. +2
        April 19 2021 17: 07
        Should I report to you? We will report, but you will not have time to report to your overseas masters. Yes
  6. 0
    April 19 2021 10: 23
    laughing hmm, my dear ... You're just a bloody maniac! And your thoughts are confused - either you want to preserve the infrastructure, then to bomb it into the Stone Age - you will decide ... Which side are you on? - Judging by the bloodlust on the US side ... :) But! Having watched the news program on Russian TV at night, I naturally totally agree with you! The foot stretches in the pedals (of the automatic cannon release) ...
    PS: the most important element of the ground operation was missed - the immediate mass "vaccination" of the Ukrainian population of the liberated territories with haloperidol and chlorpromazine! - Whole trains and a huge supply of medicines will be needed ...
    1. -2
      April 19 2021 11: 31
      Quote: nespich
      then you want to keep the infrastructure


      Does Ukraine have infrastructure?
      1. 0
        April 19 2021 12: 12
        hmm ... I feel the national school ... do you know the language? - Look up the meaning in the dictionary
        the words "infrastructure" are between "itic power" and "in the mouth" ...
      2. 0
        April 19 2021 12: 35
        Quote: lopvlad
        Does Ukraine have infrastructure?

        Yes, but can only dream in a nightmare.
  7. +12
    April 19 2021 10: 26
    Article, just bullshit. Ridiculous attempts to portray yourself as a tough analyst negative
    1. +1
      April 19 2021 12: 38
      Quote: sannyhome
      Article, just bullshit. Ridiculous attempts to portray yourself as a tough analyst

      But if "Quarter-95" runs the state, then our author may also be "an analyst. I like to read jokes on Monday, after yesterday's birthday."
  8. +1
    April 19 2021 10: 29
    In the event of an attack by the Armed Forces of Ukraine on the territory of the DPR and LPR, Russia, first of all, must
    ... The giraffe is big, he knows better .... I doubt that he will listen to the rustling, writing below.
  9. 0
    April 19 2021 10: 30
    "should end with the occupation of the left-bank Ukraine, Odessa, Kherson ..."

    No need to stop along the way. Why leave the right-bank Ukraine to the West?
    For the revival of a new fascist-Bandera substance?
    To liberate, so to liberate. There, many Russians have relatives waiting, they will not wait.
    Siberia is big, there are many prisoners of Bandera fit there ...
    1. +13
      April 19 2021 10: 34
      Quote: prior
      many prisoners of Bandera
      Bandera's supporters were not suppressed once, to which we see ...
      1. +7
        April 19 2021 10: 41
        So many people were not crushed by the communists and the Chekists. As soon as Gorbachev gave freedom to the enemies of the communists, it immediately became clear what a huge number of criminals and fierce enemies of his country and people on the territory of the USSR. So they have been planting anger and hatred on the territory of the USSR for more than 30 years, pitting peoples against each other, unleashing wars, robbing their country and people, destroying their fellow citizens.
        1. -1
          April 19 2021 19: 23
          Quote: tatra
          So many people were not suppressed by the communists and security officers

          they did not have time, they pulled the USSR piece by piece.
          Quote: tatra
          it immediately became clear what a huge number of criminals and fierce enemies of their country and people on the territory of the USSR

          that's for sure, all millionaires are either commies or FSB officers or those who are spinning with them
    2. +3
      April 19 2021 10: 42
      Well, why did you stop in Ukraine, don't go twice, Moldova, Poland (in the Stone Age), the Baltic states (having deported Russophobes from there), a direct corridor to Serbia, abolishing Kosovo and Albania along the way.
      Throw in more offers laughing soldier
      1. -2
        April 19 2021 14: 27
        Quote: Mitroha
        u, and why did you stop in Ukraine, don't go twice, Moldova, Poland (in the Stone Age), the Baltic states (having deported Russophobes from there), a direct corridor to Serbia, abolishing Kosovo and Albania along the way.
        Throw in more offers

        Why waste time on trifles, it is necessary to cross the Alps, our people have been there for a long time, so let's walk calmly, then "we will be able to repeat" is quite understandable! That's just, damn it, Alaska worries ... how unstable everything is there and there was no referendum ...
        1. 0
          April 19 2021 16: 52
          Quote: Stroporez
          Alaska worries ... how everything is unstable there and there was no referendum ...

          Everything is legally ours there. There was nothing to throw the Empire for money
    3. +3
      April 19 2021 11: 34
      Quote: prior
      Siberia is big, many prisoners of Bandera will fit there


      What else do we need to feed them at our own expense? Drive all this rabble to Galicia and let them build a new Bandera Reich for the "joy" of Poland.
    4. Aag
      +1
      April 19 2021 17: 04
      ".... Siberia is big, there are many prisoners of Bandera fit there ....."
      Will you "graze" them here in Siberia?
    5. +24
      April 19 2021 20: 54
      Quote: prior
      To liberate, so to liberate.

      And to the English Channel!
  10. +1
    April 19 2021 10: 35
    Why not advance to the western border right away? Will there be enough money only to restore Odessa and Kherson?)))
    The author's weekend was definitely a success.
    I would like to play war-welkam that military enlistment office and a business trip to Syria. For example, my family and I do not need an offensive war.
    1. +4
      April 19 2021 11: 39
      Quote: BISMARCK94
      For example, my family and I do not need an offensive war.


      and there is no offensive war at all. Hypothetically, the future war of Russia in Ukraine is a defensive war. Or did you not notice that since the beginning of the year Ukraine has been pulling and pulling troops to the Donbass and the borders of Russian territory on the Crimean peninsula, and we are only strengthening the defense.
      1. -4
        April 19 2021 13: 16
        The occupation of territories does not pull on a defensive war) And Ukraine will definitely not risk a blitzkrieg across the Russian Federation.
        1. +1
          April 20 2021 02: 54
          Quote: BISMARCK94
          The occupation of territories does not pull on a defensive war)


          Yes, after 1991, Ukraine occupied our ancestral territories, and Russia is now going to liberate them.
          1. +1
            April 20 2021 20: 44
            well, with this approach, you can go to poland and finland with alaska to fight
    2. 0
      April 19 2021 11: 42
      Quote: BISMARCK94
      Will there be enough money only to restore Odessa and Kherson?)))


      and Mother Russia says, "And I will leave you in slavery from the Bandera people, because there is no money for your upkeep."
  11. +6
    April 19 2021 10: 36
    Dear author does not serve in the General Staff?))
    Thoughts are correct, but the presentation is sofa. It turns out everything is so simple, bam bam and in the kings!
    I think that no fools are sitting at the top. Everything for this case has already been worked out and all plans are in the safes. But there are a lot of circumstances that do not allow this. So the article (((
  12. +6
    April 19 2021 10: 37
    "Work of this kind for several weeks or months will allow Ukraine to be bombed into the state of today's Libya and Somalia" - you can not read further. The author played with computer strategies.
    1. +4
      April 19 2021 10: 39
      Quote: Sergey Valov
      The author played with computer strategies.

      It is immediately felt ...
  13. +4
    April 19 2021 10: 38
    I don't even know how to comment on this outrageous militarism. The author in general about the consequences of what he offers thought about?
    The idea is beautiful, in the spirit of American neo-colonial wars. Will lead to the capture of the entire left-bank Ukraine with minimal losses in the RF Armed Forces. But with the maximum loss of civilians, the destruction of critical infrastructure and the creation of hungry armed gangs in the center of Europe.
    Will the RF Armed Forces be able to carry out this operation as smoothly as the "partners" do? I doubt it. Experience is needed here.
    Do we need millions of Ukrainians whose house has been bombed or relatives have been killed? I doubt it.
    Do we need left-bank Ukraine? I doubt it. Expensive and not very useful.
    Do we want a sharp aggravation of relations with the European Union to the point of a full-fledged Cold War? I doubt it.
    Obviously, this is too harsh. It is necessary to somehow soften the influence on Ukraine.
    1. -3
      April 19 2021 10: 52
      Quote: MooH
      I doubt it. Experience is needed here.

      Don't we have such experience?
      Syria... Our special operations units are recruited every day in a combat situation, and not against snotty boys driven from all over Ukraine to the Donbass, but against hardened bandits who have been fighting for more than one year.

      If we proceed from our actions in the war with Georgia and the war in Syria, then first of all the command posts will be destroyed, any communication between the units will be interrupted, and then the matter of technology - we will take it warm and will not have time to utter a word.

      The only question is, do we need it? Capture all of Ukraine and restore it - no, but the LPR - we will not give offense - will stick, the line of demarcation will run along the Dnieper.
      1. +4
        April 19 2021 11: 14
        in the war with Georgia and the war in Syria

        The scale is somewhat different. The larger the outfit of forces involved, the more confusion, confusion, and the harder it is to stick to plans. If the "partners" periodically bomb the hospitals and their columns, then we too will have a lot of overlaps. Remember the same Georgia. And here you also have to work on your own territory. Every casual victim is someone's friend or relative.
    2. +2
      April 19 2021 11: 28
      Quote: MooH
      the creation of hungry armed gangs in the center of Europe.

      So let these "gangs" shake the owners who illegally stole factories and factories from the people, it's high time ...
      1. Aag
        0
        April 19 2021 17: 14
        Quote: bistrov.
        Quote: MooH
        the creation of hungry armed gangs in the center of Europe.

        So let these "gangs" shake the owners who illegally stole factories and factories from the people, it's high time ...

        Imagine yourself, for a minute, as a commandant, or an AIM, the mayor of the "liberated" (according to the author's plans) city of Nikolaev (for example) ... Will hungry gangs of former "proprietors" look for them or will they go to you?
  14. +9
    April 19 2021 10: 40
    I suggest that the author give out the soldiers to moderate the ardor and zeal. And then from the couch you can send hordes of soldiers into battle, and planes by the hundreds, to planes and air defense of the enemy. And to bomb the neighboring country without consequences into the Stone Age. Well, right, what are the consequences? There are airplanes, there are markets, you can smash markets with airplanes, destroy hydroelectric power plants, and that's it, they just won't be there. Fire logic.
    To be honest, the reasoning and analysis of the level of the second grader.
    I wonder how such opuses reach VO. They said earlier here the level of articles was much higher.
    1. -1
      April 19 2021 12: 00
      Quote: TerraSandera
      Otherwise, from the couch, you can send hordes of soldiers into battle, and hundreds of planes, on enemy aircraft and air defense


      of course you need to send, but after the planes and air defense of the enemy managed to bomb in the stone age.
      This is what the Americans did in the first Iraqi company "Desert Storm" when, with the help of weapons whose range exceeded the weapons of Iraq, they bombed it into the Stone Age.
  15. -5
    April 19 2021 10: 41
    If it does start, use all the reserves to the fullest. Russia will not have a war without nuclear weapons, it will still need to help the Syrian comrades, it will start there too. Because of this Ukraine, the world will become completely different. Let them just try to rock the boat, the GDP of very zealous countries will have to be reset. , but so far there are no prerequisites for abandoning "exclusiveness".
  16. +5
    April 19 2021 10: 43
    I have a direct soundtrack from RedAlert 2 in my head played in the process of reading)) You do not show the article to Tom Clancy, he will choke on saliva
    1. 0
      April 19 2021 14: 19
      Not the author of the hike igrulka Steel Hearts 4 (the day of victory in our opinion) cut in, well, and rushed to the west. I understand, it is catchy.
  17. +3
    April 19 2021 10: 45
    Oh, mom! Well, at least "journalism". And then God forbid such advice in business. Everything will be a little more modest. Factor of.
  18. -2
    April 19 2021 10: 48
    I would have acted differently
    Warned no one, no one at all
    A Poplar missile with a non-nuclear combat unit would destroy all political and military leadership
    Destroyed all headquarters up to regiments
    Raid Kiev and occupy it
    Surrender
    1. AUL
      0
      April 19 2021 14: 37
      Well, what's the catch? Buy yourself a Poplar - and go! And then get an AK and a couple of grenades - and get busy with Kiev.
      Strategists, damn it, kindergarten ...
  19. +3
    April 19 2021 10: 54
    Well, here, as in a joke - "... everything is calm on the Finnish-Chinese border wassat
    Var. minimum - No-fly zone over Donbass + missile strikes on the attacking units of the Ukrainian ... army + displacement to the borders of Donetsk and Lugansk regions.
    Var. the maximum is the Novorossiya project.
  20. +2
    April 19 2021 10: 57
    Sooner or later, a military solution on the issue of Ukraine will take place. It may not exist only if the states recognize Ukraine as a zone of Russian influence. But this is already from a series of Nanai fairy tales. You can laugh at the author of the article, but whether we want it or not, and the nearest perspective is not far from the scenario described in the article.
  21. +5
    April 19 2021 11: 03
    Author, you should have been born 100 years earlier .. You would have made your career in advisors to Hitler.
    Bomb Ukraine in the Stone Age? And then what? Bomb the last pants into recovery?
  22. +1
    April 19 2021 11: 13
    Necessary actions of Russia in the event of an attack by Ukraine on Donbass


    no "Then" exists because all of the above must be done simultaneously, decisively and quickly.
    Moreover, Ukraine itself actually reanimated the Novorossiya project by pulling troops to the borders of the Russian Crimea, thereby removing even a small opportunity to merge Donbass in the liberal hope that the West would recognize Crimea for it.
    Therefore, either the cleansing of Bandera's Ukraine or surrender to the West, followed by the collapse of Russia.
  23. +1
    April 19 2021 11: 15
    I do not understand this logic. If someone in Ukraine speaks Russian, then he must be protected. And if in Ukrainian, then it should be bombed into the Stone Age. For the information of the author, both Zelensky and Poroshenko, and almost all the leaders of the Kiev junta are quite Russian-speaking people. And in general, according to Gallup, 83% of Ukrainian citizens use Russian at home.
  24. -3
    April 19 2021 11: 18
    What "two weeks", at most two days, three Iskander brigades are deployed in the western part of Russia, and this is 36x 3 = 108 launchers, a warhead of 4 missiles, a total of 432 missiles with warheads of about 500 kg of TNT, KVO about 7 meters , no aviation is needed here, and this will be enough for everyone to raise their legs up, and the entire leadership in a panic scrambled to Poland ... Take it with your bare hands - I don’t want to ...
  25. 0
    April 19 2021 11: 20
    The original idea is important, the implementation is in question.

    It is more important to realize and variants of the position of "citizens are being killed abroad"

    For example, if, conventionally, they begin to massacre the Yusovites in some state, fleets are immediately sent there and tomahawks begin to patrol.
    And here we come to the position of Russia in a comparable case: many compatriots who are our fellow citizens live on the territory of the LPR, DPR, Transnistria. What can the state do to protect them in the event of aggression by another state, except for demonstrative demarches in the style of "ban import of mandarins for a month."
  26. -1
    April 19 2021 11: 26
    First of all to the author. Russia has two response options, fundamentally different, and these options depend on what the attack will be like. There are many citizens of the Russian Federation on the territory of Novorossia - and this has already been done to ensure the OPPORTUNITY to officially defend Novorossia. There is also an unofficial possibility - everyone already knows how the north wind blows, because, for example, in Ukraine, Western PMCs do not work in full growth - they are afraid of the same answer. Also as an aspect of the north wind.
    What the author described is the worst option for Russia, by the way
  27. Cat
    +2
    April 19 2021 11: 39
    Let's not judge the author very harshly. In principle, if you collect all the comments on VO on near-Ukrainian topics and display something in between, then approximately such an article will turn out.
  28. +2
    April 19 2021 11: 42
    Quote: TerraSandera
    There are airplanes, there are markets, you can smash markets with airplanes, destroy hydroelectric power plants, and that's it, they just won't be there. Fire logic.

    Why bomb the markets and hydroelectric power stations? You need to bomb the VR building, the presidential administration, headquarters, command posts, barracks, air defense weapons, technical military parks, military airfields, military depots and arsenals, the accumulation of troops and military equipment, long-term and field fortifications, military educational institutions, units and means communication ......
    If this does not help, the next stage is ports, civil airfields, junction stations, depots and rolling stock, bridges, military factories and industries, etc.
  29. +1
    April 19 2021 11: 44
    Where did we get 20 su-57?
  30. +1
    April 19 2021 11: 46
    The author (Alexander1971) outlined his vision of possible events ... Why get excited ?? And even with the transition to personalities ... I did not notice, after reading the material, that Alexander1971 doubted in advance about the mental abilities of the readers or accused them that they were smoking something obscene when reading lol This is how the author sees the possible development of events.- such is the emotional background in the press of our country.
    This is freedom of speech. The decision will be made by the Supreme Commander-in-Chief - he, thank God, is not a supporter of "Drafts are baked! So cool down, who wants to fight now and everywhere." drinks
    1. +2
      April 19 2021 15: 05
      You yourself said freedom of speech, readers appreciated and responded to this opus, mind you censorship. This is how readers see the author. belay
    2. -2
      April 19 2021 19: 25
      Quote: are1951
      This is how the author sees the possible development of events -

  31. +4
    April 19 2021 12: 02
    Necessary actions of Russia in the event of an attack by Ukraine on Donbass
    If the author's nickname is linked to his year of birth (Alexander 1971), Alexander should be a fairly adult person - 50 years old. Like it or not, the article is not an easy one, but, really, what will the Russian leadership and personally our Supreme Commander-in-Chief do?
    Let's remember the past, on March 1, 2014, the Federation Council allowed Russian President Vladimir Putin to use troops on Ukrainian territory to protect Russian citizens.
    In his address to the senators, the president asked to be granted the right to use the armed forces on the territory of Ukraine "until the social and political situation in this country normalizes." A few hours before that, both chambers of parliament themselves proposed to the president to come up with such an initiative; even earlier, the Crimean authorities had made a similar request to the president of the Russian Federation.


    On the territory of the Russian Federation then there was the legitimate and legitimate President of Ukraine Yanukovych and his Prime Minister Azarov, there was an anti-constitutional coup in Kiev, people were already dying, and what?
    But nothing, they drove a cartoon - "Putin bring in the troops!", Where with anguish they explained to people like the author of our article that troops cannot be brought in, otherwise NATO will go to war, and, the end of our calm happiness.
    Forgot? In addition, “Let them just try,” remained words, both to the shelling of the civilian Russian population in Donetsk and Lugansk, and to the monstrous crime in Odessa. But, they kept their gas pipe, agreed on transit, recognized the Bandera elections, automatically allowing the junta to legalize itself.

    To be honest, it would be much more interesting to read about what we should not do in the event of "Ukraine's attack on Donbass." I think, first of all, one should not further ignore the desire of Donbass to become part of Russia, and, at least, recognize the DPR and LPR, otherwise Donbass will remain the legal territory of Ukraine, where it has the right to establish "constitutional order."
    1. +4
      April 19 2021 13: 26
      The fact of the matter is that there is no desire of Donbass to become part of Russia. More precisely, it is not legally formalized. This question was removed from the vote in 14 year. Yanukovych and Azarov were not given permission to enter troops either. The point is not that we would have to fight NATO, this is the propaganda of the media working for the United States. And the fact that there was no reason for the introduction of troops, they were all cut off. If we entered Ukraine then it would be aggression, just aggression and it would be impossible to refer to the opinion of the people, since no one asked for their opinion.
      1. +2
        April 19 2021 14: 55
        Quote: Herman 4223
        If we entered Ukraine then it would be aggression
        Maybe so, Alexander. However, it was not necessary to bring in troops, but why did they recognize the farce with the elections, which was carried out by the same organizers of the anti-constitutional coup, under the patronage of the CIA and the US State Department? This is why, who forced us, that is the question. Accordingly, the referendum in Crimea became automatically illegal for the West.
        1. +2
          April 19 2021 17: 14
          The law is not retroactive. In Crimea everything was done as it should, the rest is hysterical. As for the elections, there were no special grounds for not recognizing them. And the sense, too, could only be worse, for example, a sharper break in trade turnover. Moreover, Yanukovych did not fight for power, they promised him something if he would behave quietly.
  32. +6
    April 19 2021 12: 03
    Then it is logical to deliver strikes by airplanes and cruise missiles across the entire infrastructure of Ukraine.


    Publishing such "reasoning" the site does not think about reputation at all.
  33. +4
    April 19 2021 12: 13
    In the old days, such authors had the opportunity to write only on fences. I did not master everything - only the beginning. Aircraft ruins must be destroyed at airfields, and throughout the entire territory of the nedogusadarstvo, and not only at airfields near the contact line. There are means for this. It is also necessary to do the same with the air defense, and it would be nice to charge them at the headquarters. In the event of an exacerbation, we will be "to blame" in any way, so why limit ourselves to half measures? Fight like that for real. It will end faster. Before the start of the "first Chechen" all the planes of Ichkeria (they had several pepelats, all Dudayev was a flyer) were destroyed at the airfield. And our head did not ache about possible terrorist attacks using military aircraft. Dudayev, by the way, appreciated and congratulated PS Deinekin (Commander-in-Chief of the Air Force) with a successful attack.
  34. +1
    April 19 2021 12: 17
    It seems like today is not April 1st.
    Or is it some kind of provocation.
    Where are the site editors looking?
  35. +2
    April 19 2021 12: 22
    The economy of the Russian Federation is as strong as ever, probably since the author proposes to unleash a war with a rather big neighbor? An oil embargo? No, have not heard. Disconnecting from SWIFT? What is this? Sanctions against Aeroflot? And I don't fly anywhere. After the new sanctions, the oligarchs will doomedly switch from black caviar to red caviar, and the impoverished population will switch to quinoa and nettle cabbage soup. What year will they not bomb the unfortunate Syrian rebels into the dust, and are they planning half of Ukraine in a couple of weeks? And the Ukrainians who are now on the territory of the Russian Federation will joyfully welcome the bombing of their cities? Not sure. And for the descendants to disentangle all this for another hundred years. And how happy China and Japan will be at the bare Russian rear!
  36. +3
    April 19 2021 13: 12
    Sorry author, I could not finish reading this.
  37. +4
    April 19 2021 14: 08
    Su-57 - 20 units, how much? And two regiments of Armat, an aircraft carrier and a death star in orbit. And then Ostap suffered. fellow
  38. +1
    April 19 2021 14: 47
    Professor (Sokolov Oleg)
    then Soviet Jews were accepted ON their territory.

    you did not just accept refugees, but masterly carried out a multilevel combination associated with both the brain drain and the discrediting of the Soviet regime.
    regarding the article, all actions must take into account two factors: the location of the objects of the power system

    and the population and its loyalty both to their own government and to the authorities of the Russian Federation. And yes, if the bombing of the nuclear power plant is not comme il faut, then Uncle Sam himself ordered to work out the distribution system with graphite, following the results of Yugoslavia. and one more of the priority matters is the lifting of the water blockade of the Crimea, one 500k will be enough.
  39. -1
    April 19 2021 14: 47
    It’s not like that at all. It is necessary to cut off Svidomo from NATO along the western border with the formation of a strip with a completely resettled local population. This is the main and only task. The strip width must be at least 15 - 25 km. The strip should exclude replenishment of Svidomites from abroad. The war is over.
    1. -3
      April 19 2021 17: 12
      Cut off, squeeze out, turn off, crush - truly Russian manners.
      1. +1
        April 20 2021 11: 07
        "What about us?" All the filth has manifested itself ... You yourself insist to change the order of execution of the Minsk agreements ... So that the clause on the transfer of control over the border was at the beginning ... in the absence of such control, nourishment from Russia will provide an opportunity to resist the rebellious republics for a long time. Well, alaverdi ... If you cut off the leper Svidomo territory from NATO, then it will not hold out even for a couple of months. It's just that the agenda will change in the zomboyaschik, and everyone on the Square will suddenly wake up and understand what kind of shit they are in. Suffice it for a month or two to explain that all Bukra was revived as a fragment of Nazi Germany, and this is an indelible shame: your ancestors have already cursed you.
  40. +3
    April 19 2021 15: 15
    However, Russia has quite effective ones: Su-57 - 20 units, Su-35 - 70 units.


    What kind of nonsense have I seen now? From that moment on, I did not even read further. Does anyone even check what kind of tin sometimes goes to "print"?
    1. +2
      April 19 2021 16: 00
      In vain did not read further, there such a trash of a second grader went)
    2. 0
      April 27 2021 06: 40
      20 Su-57 units is of course a typo. Now the RF Air Force has only 2 units. Su-57.
      1. 0
        April 27 2021 11: 16
        One Su-57 is available in the Russian Aerospace Forces, and one is not for military operations, but for GLITs.

        And the Su-35, on the contrary, is already under a hundred in the ranks.
  41. 0
    April 19 2021 16: 00
    ... if it happens, the GDP of Russia will become the same as the GDP of the NATO countries.

    What a fright! Is the author waiting for flowers and bread and salt on the way? There is no war without sacrifice and destruction. And how much does it cost to restore what was destroyed? So NATO's GDP is not threatened
  42. +7
    April 19 2021 16: 03
    Necessary actions of Russia in the event of an attack by Ukraine on Donbass

    To smash all their APU to hell and hold a tribunal over the Kiev authorities.
  43. -1
    April 19 2021 17: 09
    We have completely lost the shores! Yes, in Ukraine, almost all of the population is Russian. And in the Armed Forces of Ukraine, too, the majority of Russians! What protection, from whom? This is the Ukrainian land and Russia has no place on this land.
    1. +3
      April 19 2021 18: 44
      Quote: Glenni
      This is the Ukrainian land and Russia has no place on this land.

      This is a Russian land, Russia conquered it at different times, having paid with the blood of its soldiers, and Kiev, in general, was redeemed in 1686 from Poland for 146 thousand silver efimkov.
      And tell me when, what and from whom the so-called. "Ukraine"? Where did you get the land from?
    2. +1
      April 20 2021 19: 32
      Quote: Glenni
      This is the Ukrainian land and Russia has no place on this land.

      Who is it?
  44. +1
    April 19 2021 17: 57
    As far as I understand, the author is a light version of Damantsev?
  45. -4
    April 19 2021 18: 20
    it may not be worth whipping up such passions. Hitting Markets and Institutions? Friends, Ukrainians are our brothers in general, Slavs. The fact that the fascist junta is now in power does not mean that all Ukrainians fiercely hate Russia. Now the main thing is to make it clear to the Ukrainians that they are at the mercy of inadequate clowns and that Ukraine will not expect anything good with them. If there is an invasion of the APU, then of course it is necessary to quickly destroy everything that is necessary, but again to communicate to the same APU that this is not their war. Let the units, which are not ready to carry out the orders of the fascists, should take a perimeter defense where they stand and contact the RF Armed Forces. Or, in separate groups, retreat to the west with weapons.
  46. -1
    April 19 2021 22: 29
    I thought here only Damantsev amuses himself with nonsense, but I was wrong. There is one more, the author of this opus ...
  47. -3
    April 19 2021 22: 43
    the author writes here that Russia should not strike at the AES of Ukraine, but should destroy, among other objects, and hydraulic structures. So, mediocrities in the General Staff of Ukraine surrendered to the Russian army in Crimea without a single shot and stuck their army into boilers near Ilovaisk, where even miners and tractor drivers of Donbass were boiling this army, these mediocrities from the General Staff of Ukraine think not at all like the author of this article. They then understand that Russia will not bomb neither the AES of Ukraine, nor the hydro-structures of Ukraine. Therefore, the General Staff of Ukraine has long prepared the Dneproges dam for the explosion. Then to blame Russia. How many cities and how many millions of people will be washed away by the wave below the dam, the author did not think about it, if he offers Russia to bomb the hydraulic structures of Ukraine. This is how to save the hydro structures of Ukraine from the sabotage of the Ukrainian army itself at these hydro structures in the event of an armed conflict, and at the AES, by the way, too, this will be one of the main tasks of the Russian army.
    1. +1
      April 21 2021 06: 45
      Quote: north 2
      where even the miners and tractor drivers of Donbass used to fumble this army

      tractor drivers - laughing
  48. 0
    April 19 2021 23: 21
    Announce that within three hours a blow will be struck at all military targets, and not deactivated equipment. White flags should be posted everywhere. When the Armed Forces of Ukraine are squeezed home, to say that it was, de, a joke. Here's what's next with all the mess that Paul has to learn, do something - until he came up with laughing
  49. -1
    April 20 2021 00: 08
    Quote: Proxima
    Quote: professor
    But if it happens, then Russia's GDP will become the same as the GDP of NATO countries.

    Achinea in the article is transcendental! fool How will Russia's GDP equal to that of NATO countries? Take, for example, Germany, which significantly surpasses Russia in its GDP, and add the US gross product to it. I don't stutter about other NATO countries at all.


    Achinea in the commentary is written transcendental! The GDPs of Germany and Russia are practically the same.
  50. +2
    April 20 2021 00: 36
    I think that is why now the Russian Federation has very strongly and instantly responded to the diplomatic war with the United States, the Czech Republic and Poland. Answering symmetrically, rounded up. In these countries, they thought hard about how to respond further. And I think they will be the last to worry about the outskirts. Expulsion of the consul from St. Petersburg and return of gaster in the amount of 150K carcasses. There are very clear hints to Zelensky that they will no longer joke with anyone, especially with him.
  51. -2
    April 20 2021 15: 43
    The author probably consumed toadstools in the morning, because a normal person wouldn’t write such crap
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  53. +1
    April 20 2021 19: 30
    Better a terrible end than endless horror, all this is a mockery of people, this is the result of betrayal, helplessness and incompetence, and most importantly, weakness and indecision, the complete political lack of will of the ruling class, its dependence on the overseas curators of this process. Everything could have been resolved quickly and less painfully if the leadership had shown independence, competence, and political will in due time. All subsequent actions and decisions made, in my philistine opinion, only confirm the conclusion that the entire leadership, more like a temporary neo-colonial (occupation) administration, has the task of degradation with the subsequent destruction of our state and the “final solution of the Slavic question,” rather than development countries and the prosperity of peoples, i.e. fulfillment of the tasks of the 41st year p.v.. It is difficult to come to other conclusions, even with a full education, looking at the results of activities over 30 years to protect and uphold the interests of the Russian Federation, or rather their complete inactivity and insolvency, with the exception of “lining one’s own pockets” ".
    It would be more relevant to consider the issue in the article, “Actions of the Russian Federation in the event of the deployment of bases of US military units and formations on adjacent territory,” as well as what steps have been taken to eliminate the biological laboratories of “partners” developing bacteriological weapons that are a direct threat to us, and not continuing the policy of the “cat” from the cartoon. I wonder how many hours Israel would endure if it learned about such laboratories in Palestine or Syria, I think exactly as long as it takes to prepare a squadron of F-15s and F-16s for takeoff and assign the pilots the task of carrying out a bomb strike.
    With these, everything is clear, but what to know (we can’t even name it) will happen in a few years with Kazakhstan, and this is a completely different situation, where the same processes are also in full swing and under the same leadership as in the independent one, only shout less and in an oriental manner without unnecessary noise.
  54. 0
    April 20 2021 23: 09
    It’s strange and wild to read discussions about possible military actions between the Russian Federation and Ukraine
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    April 21 2021 15: 28
    Su-57 - 20 units??? Did I miss something?
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      April 21 2021 22: 11
      There are 15 nuclear power units in Ukraine, and it’s time to change the fuel at some of them.
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      April 27 2021 06: 39
      20 Su-57 units is of course a typo. Now the RF Air Force has only 2 units. Su-57.
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    April 23 2021 16: 07
    Necessary actions of Russia in the event of an attack by Ukraine on Donbass

    Defend Donbass by all possible means and defeat the Ukrainian Wehrmacht.
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    April 27 2021 06: 40
    Quote: ALARI
    Su-57 - 20 units, how much? And two regiments of Armat, an aircraft carrier and a death star in orbit. And then Ostap suffered. fellow


    20 Su-57 units is of course a typo. Now the RF Air Force has only 2 units. Su-57.
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    April 27 2021 06: 42
    Quote: Lykases1
    Where did we get 20 su-57?


    20 Su-57 units is of course a typo. Now the RF Air Force has only 2 units. Su-57.