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Suspicious US Air Force C-130J special flight from Riga to Kiev. What should be taken into account by the command of the army corps of the LDNR and the General Staff of the Russian Armed Forces

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Against the background of the US Air Force's C-17A Globmaster III heavy military transport aircraft continuously delivering to Ukraine a wide range of portable radio and electronic reconnaissance equipment, thermal imaging sights based on the 3rd generation image intensifier, mobile anti-jamming tactical communication / data exchange and relay systems, complexes electronic warfare and, most likely, additional counter-battery radars of artillery reconnaissance and the next batches of Javelin ATGMs, most military experts and competent military observers (not to mention the news authors of ordinary information platforms) missed a rather important detail of the observed "NATO express" organized in within the framework of urgent preparation for the implementation of the escalation scenario in the Donbass and Azov-Black Sea theaters of military operations.


We are talking about a very unusual flight of the American military transport aircraft C-130J Super Hercules, carried out on April 11, 2021 from Riga to the capital of the "Square" and recorded by A3H-B / ADS-B IN receivers, relaying information about regional and global air traffic to the server of the portal "Flightradar24.com".

Providing Ukrainian military formations of ATGMs of the "Spike-LR / -2" line can change the operational and tactical alignment in the Donbass theater of operations


In light of the observed achievement of the apogee of both the diplomatic dive and the operational-strategic confrontation between the member states of the North Atlantic Alliance, on the one hand, and the Russian Federation, on the other, numerous journalists and even military experts did not attach any weight to this information.

Indeed, in the conditions of the outbreak of pre-escalation chaos, when in the states of the Baltic and Black Sea regions (including the waters of the seas) there is a hasty deployment of the widest range of forces and means of the NATO Joint Armed Forces, this event can be mistakenly interpreted as just a small touch that gives the observed picture the proper completeness.

In reality, we can talk about the delivery of a very serious high-precision lethal weapons, capable of providing mechanized brigades of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the Donbass theater of operations not only with parity, but confident dominance in the confrontation with armored vehicles of motorized rifle units of the 1st and 2nd army corps of the LDNR, not excluding a certain degree of threat to the equipment of the 20th and 58th combined-arms armies of the Ground Forces Russia (in the case of the start of the "Operation to compel Kiev to peace").

As you know, back in 2018, a contract worth 108 million euros was signed between the Latvian defense department and the Israeli defense company Rafael for the supply of more than 400 Spike-LR / -2 anti-tank missile systems to the Latvian army; The Bundeswehr has more than 1000 Spike complexes in similar modifications (as you know, a similar flight of the second Super Hercules from Stuttgart to Kiev also took place on April 11, 2021).

Consequently, the likelihood of the presence of ATGM data in the nomenclature of cargo delivered to the Ukrainian military formations by the US Air Force C-130J aircraft is extremely high, as well as the likelihood of their further deployment and use in the Donbass theater of operations.

Unlike the American FGM-148 Javelin ATGMs, which have anti-tank missiles with a range of no more than 2500 m and long-wave infrared seeker based on telluride-cadmium-mercury matrix IR photodetectors with a resolution of 64x64 elements (which do not differ in the highest noise immunity and the ability to select targets for low contrast background of the use of IR traps), anti-tank guided missiles of the "Spike-LR / -2" line can boast of several tactical and technical advantages at once.

First of all, this is a more massive and energy-efficient solid-fuel charge of the gas generator, which provides an ATGM with a range of 4500 m (for Spike-LR) and 5500 m (for Spike-LR-2), respectively (when launched from ground vehicles), which eliminates the likelihood of the "Spike" crew hitting the zone of destruction of long-range large-caliber rifles and 12,7-mm machine guns of the enemy, and also reduces the likelihood of detection by portable radars of artillery reconnaissance "Fara-VR" and 1L227 "Sobolyatnik" ).

Secondly, this is a promising multispectral (2-channel) optoelectronic seeker, represented by both a high-resolution CCD television photodetector of the visible optical range and an advanced IIR (Imaging Infrared) type medium-wave infrared sensor, which provides "capture" not only the most heat-emitting elements of the attacked piece of equipment, but also the most vulnerable areas of its upper projection (in accordance with the list of pre-loaded templates with the classes of armored vehicles).

And finally, thirdly, it is the presence of additional fiber-optic, or radio command, telemetry data transmission lines and the implementation of radio correction (control) of the Spike-LR / -2 ATGM on the trajectory, thanks to which the Spike family complexes are capable of firing from closed by elements of the terrain or structures of positions, with the possibility of receiving target designation from third-party sources of optical-electronic / radar / radio-technical reconnaissance, as well as forward guidance by the operator in manual mode, which is used in case of disruption of the capture of the "target" with active optical-electronic counteraction from the enemy ...

In this situation, the Russian defense department should intensify the retrofitting program tank units in the most unpredictable operational areas (including Donbass) with promising Arena-M KAZ, as well as to increase investments in the program for the development of promising anti-tank systems with infrared and television seeker, announced a few months earlier by the industrial director of the cluster of weapons, ammunition and special chemistry of Rostec Bekkhan Ozdoev and carried out Tula KBP.
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  1. Vladimir_2U
    Vladimir_2U April 15 2021 04: 32
    +46
    You can spit on the author, but the rule "Count on the best, and prepare for the worst" has not been canceled!
    1. figwam
      figwam April 15 2021 06: 38
      +20
      Any meanness and nastiness can be expected from the Americans, gentleness is a thing of the past. And there were planes.

      1. Invoce
        Invoce April 15 2021 10: 58
        +29
        The Americans, and the British, were only "gentlemen" in their own circle!
        Remember how the Indians were destroyed in the United States, the Sikh uprising in India was suppressed, the Boer settlements in Africa were slaughtered ... not only does it not smell like gentlemen ... There are all signs of genocide and crimes against civilizations
        1. GriggoT
          GriggoT April 15 2021 16: 48
          +20
          This is our cinema, and all the figures from the arts, painted them day and night with some unattainable noble, some gentlemen. Just hammered in! And they are mean, deceitful, bloodthirsty, selfish and hypocritical much more than others!
          1. Fan-fan
            Fan-fan April 15 2021 20: 59
            -29%
            And what mean things are happening in our country, for example, they plant drugs on people, and then force them to confess and torture them with such medieval sadism that many cannot stand it and die. So there is no need to talk about the bloodthirstiness of some and the nobility of others.
            1. Snusmumrik
              Snusmumrik April 16 2021 10: 18
              -3
              In principle, you are right, but now we are not talking about that.
            2. lopvlad
              lopvlad April 17 2021 01: 07
              +7
              Quote: Fan-Fan
              And what mean things are happening in our country, for example, they plant drugs on people, and then force them to confess and torture them with such medieval sadism.


              Well, they wanted Western democracy instead of the USSR, now slurp a full spoon. Western values ​​in the 1990s stepped to us together with the Unified State Exam.
              1. Alex draft
                Alex draft 3 May 2021 03: 41
                0
                What does the USE have to do with it ???
          2. t-12
            t-12 April 16 2021 20: 23
            0
            Englishmen were painted as gentlemen, not Americans.
        2. Intruder
          Intruder April 16 2021 08: 14
          +2
          it's not that it doesn't smell like gentlemen ...
          War will write off everything, gentlemen - there are unnecessary emotions, efficiency rules the show wink !?
        3. Observer.
          Observer. 24 May 2021 20: 25
          0
          And yet they burn blacks.
    2. TermNachTer
      TermNachTer April 15 2021 11: 44
      -14%
      What serious and important things could have been kept in Riga? If the plane came from Germany or the USA, I would understand.
      1. Vladimir_2U
        Vladimir_2U April 15 2021 11: 48
        +14
        Quote: TermNachTER
        What serious and important things could be stored in Riga?

        Surprisingly, you, in principle, did not read the article?
        As you know, back in 2018, a contract worth 108 million euros was signed between the Latvian defense department and the Israeli defense company Rafael for the supply of more than 400 Spike-LR / -2 anti-tank missile systems to the Latvian army; The Bundeswehr has more than 1000 Spike complexes in similar modifications (as you know, a similar flight of the second Super Hercules from Stuttgart to Kiev also took place on April 11, 2021).

        Do not thank.
        1. TermNachTer
          TermNachTer April 26 2021 12: 22
          +1
          Do you think the hot Balts gave their ATGMs to the Banderasts?))) I doubt very much
          1. Vladimir_2U
            Vladimir_2U April 26 2021 15: 30
            -1
            Quote: TermNachTER
            donated their ATGMs to Banderast?

            Who knows, compensation, even financial or military-political, cannot be seen on the Flight Radar, unlike a suspicious flight.
      2. Naughty
        Naughty April 15 2021 17: 04
        +2
        For Ukrainians now, any military aid goes "in color." An acquaintance from Poltava has already sent his son and grandson to the Crimea to hide from a future war.This is how the Armed Forces of Ukraine prepares for it Only in words in Kiev, in the Rada S, the front line is running, capturing the weapons sent by the Americans as an option)))
        1. 210ox
          210ox April 15 2021 17: 51
          0
          If they sold something serious like the same "Dart", the noise would be huge. And if the silence, then "sell right and left" only what they want. But not valid.
        2. Bshkaus
          Bshkaus April 19 2021 10: 51
          0
          A friend from Poltava has already sent his son and grandson to Crimea to hide from a future war

          Do not judge the whole Ukraine by a friend. And if it's no joke, then now all your vaunted cavalry is not worth hundreds of teenagers with faust cartridges!
          1. gjkrjdybr50
            gjkrjdybr50 April 20 2021 19: 50
            0
            I even have two such relatives, one for the grandmother cut, the second is already in Belarus.
          2. TermNachTer
            TermNachTer April 26 2021 12: 23
            0
            The number of men of military age who travel outside Banderland has quadrupled in the past two weeks)))
      3. DymOk_v_dYmke
        DymOk_v_dYmke April 15 2021 17: 36
        +5
        Quote: TermNachTER
        What serious and important things could be stored in Riga?

        There is a nursery for touring frostbitten sniper witches. hi
        1. TermNachTer
          TermNachTer April 26 2021 12: 24
          0
          They were transported in stacks, in the cargo hold?)))
          1. DymOk_v_dYmke
            DymOk_v_dYmke April 26 2021 13: 13
            +1
            Quote: TermNachTER
            They were transported in stacks, in the cargo hold?)))

            In metal cages, so as not to be scratched to death during delivery. laughing hi
            1. TermNachTer
              TermNachTer April 26 2021 18: 00
              0
              Hot Baltic aunts?))) Or will they bite the crew?))))
              1. DymOk_v_dYmke
                DymOk_v_dYmke April 26 2021 20: 52
                0
                Quote: TermNachTER
                Hot Baltic aunts?))) Or will they bite the crew?))))

                Hot Baltic aunts in the absence of hot Baltic guys can "eat" from hunger and the crew. good laughing
      4. Normal ok
        Normal ok April 15 2021 20: 38
        -8
        Quote: TermNachTER
        What serious and important things could have been kept in Riga? If the plane came from Germany or the USA, I would understand.

        The author forgot about fighting sprats. You pull the tin key, throw it into the water and the jamb of sprat attacks the enemy ships.
        PS. Damantsev breaks his own records for pulling an owl onto the globe. From the fact that some plane made a flight Riga - Kiev, he deduces recommendations to the Ministry of Defense. And the fact that there could be anything on the plane (medicines, for example) does not occur to him.
        1. Sarboz
          Sarboz April 16 2021 20: 25
          +3
          Quote: Normal ok
          And the fact that there could be anything on the plane (medicines, for example) does not occur to him.

          And it does not occur to you that the soldiers of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and volunteers for the United States are just consumables. Why medications for consumables? We worked it out and buried it.
    3. 1976AG
      1976AG April 15 2021 15: 36
      +5
      Why doesn't Damantsev work in our MO? Such a valuable person! Does the RF Ministry of Defense know nothing about him? He would at least replace the whole analytical department.
      1. Vladimir_2U
        Vladimir_2U April 15 2021 15: 44
        +1
        Quote: 1976AG
        He would at least replace the whole analytical department.

        Yes, even as a minister, Ivanov-Serdyukov would have worked no worse.
        1. 1976AG
          1976AG April 15 2021 15: 49
          +4
          Well, there are already other people. But I wonder when he gives advice on what and how they should do in the Defense Ministry and the General Staff, is he passing advice to them through this website, or should one of us give his advice to the Defense Ministry and the General Staff? If he thinks he is smarter than them, then why doesn't he turn to them directly? After all, a person of encyclopedic knowledge understands absolutely all issues!
          1. Vladimir_2U
            Vladimir_2U April 15 2021 15: 52
            +6
            Quote: 1976AG
            about me, it’s interesting when he gives advice on what and how should be done in the Ministry of Defense and the General Staff, is it he who gives them advice through this website, or one of us should give his advice to the Ministry of Defense and the General Staff
            The fact that in the relevant departments of the Ministry of Defense the site "Voennoye Obozreniye", with a high probability, is being monitored does not come to your mind?
            1. Roman1970_1
              Roman1970_1 April 15 2021 16: 04
              +2
              No from the word at all
              1. Vladimir_2U
                Vladimir_2U April 15 2021 16: 24
                -2
                Quote: Roman1970_1
                No from the word at all

                Who are you anyway?
            2. 1976AG
              1976AG April 15 2021 16: 09
              +6
              It comes to my mind that there are enough real specialists there, and if they know about this, they sent them three letters long ago, because it is impossible to be an expert in absolutely all weapons, as well as to understand the tactics, strategy of use, the nuances of conducting all types of reconnaissance and etc. etc.
              1. Vladimir_2U
                Vladimir_2U April 15 2021 16: 23
                +1
                Quote: 1976AG
                because it is impossible to be an expert in absolutely all weapons, as well as to understand tactics, strategy of use, the nuances of conducting all types of reconnaissance, etc. and so on
                I did not notice such versatility behind Damantsev, although you, as a specialist in versatility, know better.
                1. 1976AG
                  1976AG April 15 2021 16: 31
                  +1
                  You didn’t notice, but I did. But in any case, I think that if he considers himself smarter than specialists, then let them tell them about it, and not teach them at a distance. Or is he afraid there to look pale against the background of real specialists?
                  1. Vladimir_2U
                    Vladimir_2U April 15 2021 16: 41
                    +2
                    On the
                    Quote: 1976AG
                    But in any case, I think that if he considers himself smarter than specialists, then let them tell them about it, and not teach them at a distance. Or is he afraid there to look pale against the background of real specialists?
                    He is definitely not more stupid than you, if only because you do not admit the likelihood of Damantsev working at the Moscow Region, but it is.

                    Quote: 1976AG
                    You didn’t notice, but I did.
                    It can be seen, for some reason you deny others what you ascribe to yourself. And Damantsev writes mainly about missile weapons and sometimes about radars. He writes neither about politics, nor about history, nor about the problems of building a fleet or modernizing the BTT. Unlike you and haha ​​from me.
                    1. 1976AG
                      1976AG April 15 2021 17: 01
                      +3
                      Vladimir, if he worked for MO, he would not give them advice through this site. This is the first thing. And second, keep your conclusions about who is dumber and who is smarter. Each person is an expert in some area and cannot be such in all areas.
                      1. Nyrobsky
                        Nyrobsky April 15 2021 18: 34
                        +4
                        Quote: 1976AG
                        But in any case, I think that if he considers himself smarter than specialists, then let them tell them about it, and not teach them at a distance. Or is he afraid there to look pale against the background of real specialists?

                        Quote: 1976AG
                        if he worked for MO, he would not have advised them through this site. This is the first thing. And second, keep your conclusions about who is more stupid and who is smarter. Every person is an expert in some area and cannot be such in all areas.
                        What is the dispute about? Damantsev does not pretend to be the truth in the first instance. The site is informational and analytical, Damantsev provides informational content of the site and its own analytics (whether another question is true or not true) - accept it or not. If you can give the analyst better content and more convincing, then you too have that opportunity.
                      2. 1976AG
                        1976AG April 15 2021 23: 39
                        -5
                        You really didn't understand anything. The author not only expresses his opinion, but indicates what and how should be done in MO. Thus, he puts himself above the specialists of the Ministry of Defense and the General Staff.
                      3. Nyrobsky
                        Nyrobsky April 15 2021 23: 49
                        +5
                        Quote: 1976AG
                        The author not only expresses his opinion, but indicates what and how should be done in MO. Thus, he puts himself above the specialists of the Ministry of Defense and the General Staff.
                        You mean this ...
                        a rather important detail of the observed "NATO express", organized in the framework of urgent preparation for the implementation of the escalation scenario in the Donbass and Azov-Black Sea theaters of military operations ... ///////. In the light of the observed achievement of the apogee, as a diplomatic dive and the operational-strategic confrontation between the member states of the North Atlantic Alliance, on the one hand, and the Russian Federation, on the other, numerous journalists and even military experts did not attach any significant importance to this information ... ///// In this the situation, the Russian defense department should intensify the program for equipping tank units in the most unpredictable operational directions (including the Donbass) with promising Arena-M KAZ, as well as increase investments in the program for the development of promising anti-tank systems with infrared and television seeker,
                        Well, Duc, the person is experiencing, which he decided to share, that would be taken into account. Why take off the shavings for this?
                      4. Sarboz
                        Sarboz April 16 2021 20: 45
                        +5
                        Quote: 1976AG
                        You really didn't understand anything. The author not only expresses his opinion, but indicates what and how should be done in MO. Thus, he puts himself above the specialists of the Ministry of Defense and the General Staff.

                        Here I ran through the text again. Well, the author has never insulted or humiliated anyone. Not accused of non-professionalism. I just expressed my thoughts and expressed my opinion that it would be nice to pay attention to this.
                        Here Ukrainian, Baltic, Israeli "analysts" are marking time with shoals. They ridicule our achievements, insult the leadership of Russia, the Defense Ministry, the military-industrial complex, spit on our history. It would not hurt to upset these scum more often and poke your nose into their shit so that it was discouraging.
                      5. gjkrjdybr50
                        gjkrjdybr50 April 20 2021 19: 57
                        +1
                        And I even like the author. He writes about troops and air defense equipment quite competently and clearly. (35 calendars in RTV Air Defense, VKA with honors).
                2. Vladimir_2U
                  Vladimir_2U April 16 2021 03: 20
                  +3
                  Quote: 1976AG
                  And second, keep your conclusions about who is more stupid and who is smarter.
                  How do you know, maybe I’m just an expert in the analysis of a person’s intellectual abilities based on his texts ... So I know better. laughing
                3. uralant
                  uralant April 18 2021 06: 58
                  +1
                  Quote: 1976AG
                  Each person is an expert in some area and cannot be such in all areas.

                  Well, you have enough! After 30 years of development or rather destruction of the USSR, I would not say that about everyone. Example; the entire current top of Dill, and we have enough such specialists, 25-year-old generals. Although I may have got excited for the general's wife.
              2. Intruder
                Intruder April 16 2021 08: 17
                +2
                if only because you do not admit the likelihood of Damantsev's work at MO, but it is.
                Fence "gopher" yes , although such people are needed, in the RF Ministry of Defense !!!
                1. Vladimir_2U
                  Vladimir_2U April 16 2021 08: 24
                  +1
                  Quote: Intruder
                  Fence "gopher"
                  Something like that.
  • Alex777
    Alex777 April 15 2021 18: 06
    +5
    You can spit on the author

    The author cannot be spat upon.
    But as soon as I read:
    GOS based on telluride-cadmium-mercury matrix IR photodetectors with a resolution of 64x64 elements (not distinguished by the highest noise immunity and the ability to select low-contrast targets against the background of the use of IR traps)

    I immediately understood - Damantsev. With its own unique style. wink
    The topic of the cost of gifts to Ukraine, which are listed in the article, remained not disclosed.
    So that the United States would transfer something bought by someone just like that to someone - I have not heard this.
    1. Vladimir_2U
      Vladimir_2U April 16 2021 03: 21
      0
      Quote: Alex777
      For the States to transfer something bought by someone just like that to someone

      The fact that they can simply order their mongrel is completely out of the question?
      1. Alex777
        Alex777 April 16 2021 17: 09
        +1
        In theory, these States can do anything.
        In practice, I don’t know any examples.
        If you know, please share. hi
        1. Vladimir_2U
          Vladimir_2U April 16 2021 17: 19
          0
          Quote: Alex777
          In practice, I don’t know any examples.

          The simplest and at the same time absolutely illegal example is the illegal prisons of the CIA.

          The Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Russia announced the need to bring to justice the leaders of those countries that agreed to place them on their territory for the crimes committed in the secret CIA prisons
          1. Alex777
            Alex777 April 16 2021 20: 50
            +1
            The simplest and at the same time absolutely illegal example is the illegal prisons of the CIA.

            As the Foreign Ministry rightly pointed out, it was an unlawful conspiracy.
            And there is no such thing to take someone else's property and give it to someone who is not clear. hi
            1. Vladimir_2U
              Vladimir_2U April 17 2021 12: 39
              -1
              Quote: Alex777
              And there is no such thing to take someone else's property and give it to someone who is not clear.

              This is an example of an order to your mongrel, do not pretend that you do not understand. In addition, what we know about the possible compensation, it certainly cannot be tracked on the Flytradar.
  • Maz
    Maz April 16 2021 19: 48
    +2
    The Russian Ministry of Defense informs that during the week reported since last Friday, 58 foreign aircraft carried out reconnaissance activities near the air borders of Russia, 2 of which caused the greatest alarm among the air defense forces of our country, because of which its duty fighters still had to take off.
  • rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 April 15 2021 05: 27
    +5
    The fact that the author drew attention to the possible delivery of these anti-tank weapons to Ukraine is a plus in his piggy bank. But give recommendations to the Russian military department in an instructive form
    defense department of Russia should...
    probably all the same it was not worth it if the author does not think that there are no professionals in this department. I hope the author doesn't think so.
    1. Vladimir_2U
      Vladimir_2U April 15 2021 06: 52
      +2
      Quote: rotmistr60
      that there are no professionals in this department

      In the Navy, according to Timokhin and Klimov, there is a mess and incompetence, for example.
  • Podvodnik
    Podvodnik April 15 2021 08: 28
    +3
    It is interesting what the chosen city of God will sing if we supply our allies in Syria with the means capable of retaliating against their airfields after the next air / missile strike.

    As it does, it will respond.

    That will stink!
    1. Maki Avellevich
      Maki Avellevich April 15 2021 12: 23
      -5
      Quote: Podvodnik
      It is interesting what the chosen city of God will sing if we supply our allies in Syria with the means capable of retaliating against their airfields after the next air / missile strike.

      Don't count Scud and Iskander?

      in addition, many here argued that the supply of air defense systems to the Arabs is harmless since it is considered a werewolf weapon.
      so why are anti-tank systems not defensive weapons?
      one from aircraft, the other from tanks.
      Quote: Podvodnik
      As it does, it will respond.

      laws of physics. Yes.

      ps we and the Babies of "Egyptian" production have not yet forgotten.
      1. Podvodnik
        Podvodnik April 15 2021 17: 13
        0
        ps we and the Babies of "Egyptian" production have not yet forgotten.


        Whoever remembers the old, the eye is out.
        1. Maki Avellevich
          Maki Avellevich April 15 2021 19: 57
          0
          Quote: Podvodnik
          Whoever remembers the old, the eye is out.

          only the fool does not remember the past.
          1. Podvodnik
            Podvodnik April 16 2021 00: 04
            +2
            ... only the fool does not remember the past.


            And how deeply do you remember? Remember who "started first"? And how much to do dirty tricks to each other "in return"? And to any indignation about missile strikes to hear "you started the first, we answer"? Do you propose to fight to the last?
            1. Maki Avellevich
              Maki Avellevich April 16 2021 08: 10
              -2
              Quote: Podvodnik
              And how deeply do you remember?

              The depth of memory is about 3000 years.
              We remember Amalek, Hittites, Assyrians, Babylonians.
              Greeks, Romans are not bad.
              Turks, the British are good.
              We remember the Germans very well.
              There is no need to talk about the Arabs and their assistants.

              We write down what we do not remember.

              Ps we even remember how the Italians sent aircraft to bomb our cities.
              Probably not heard about it. There was such a thing.
              1. Podvodnik
                Podvodnik April 19 2021 14: 48
                +2
                English good


                It seems that "I remember here, but I don't remember here." Englishmen, you say, remember?
                Was Argentina Supported in the Falklands Crisis? Were the weapons delivered to them in batches? Maybe they threw their PCRs to fight the aggressor? So fifty pieces? Or maybe they supported the struggle of the Irish for independence from the "bloody regime"?
                It turns out interesting, remember everything, but you supply weapons in batches only "for the evil of the Russians."
      2. Podvodnik
        Podvodnik April 15 2021 17: 15
        +1
        one from aircraft, the other from tanks.


        Deliver weapons to the conflict zone.
        1. Ingvar 72
          Ingvar 72 April 16 2021 05: 44
          -1
          All sides sin this.
        2. Maki Avellevich
          Maki Avellevich April 16 2021 10: 35
          -1
          Quote: Podvodnik
          Deliver weapons to the conflict zone.

          the strange thing is, in any conflict zone there are always a hell of a lot of weapons.
          and from almost all manufacturers.

          remove a little pathos from the comments.
    2. shahor
      shahor April 15 2021 17: 57
      0
      Quote: Podvodnik
      It is interesting what the chosen city of God will sing if we supply our allies in Syria with the means capable of retaliating against their airfields after the next air / missile strike.

      Your logic is amazing ... An American plane delivers anti-tank missiles from Europe to Ukraine. You, in response, offer to supply shock missiles ... to Syria !!! To strike at Israel. Did you take pills in the morning? Not? Eat the pill quickly! Uncle - in Kiev!
      And so - it's still a picture! The Syrian gunners, known all over the world for their skill, load the rocket and ... the damned Zionists arrive and hide behind the Khmeinim airbase. Shot ... No. Missiles are not toys for the Syrians.
      1. Podvodnik
        Podvodnik April 15 2021 23: 56
        +3
        Your logic is amazing ... American plane delivers anti-tank missiles from Europe to Ukraine


        Doesn't the article say that the ATGM is made in Israel? And are they better than javelins?
        1. shahor
          shahor April 16 2021 11: 32
          -2
          Quote: Podvodnik
          Doesn't the article say that the ATGM is made in Israel? And are they better than javelins?

          Don't you know that Eurospike has been doing for Europe Spike for a long time? German company, legal entity under German law. Makes in Germany. And it cannot simply deliver these weapons abroad. Latvia bought Spikes from Israel directly - it turned out cheaper. Resell to a third country, or donate, is not eligible. The entire article is the author's speculation. But- Spikes are more effective than Javelins. Here you are right.
  • Avior
    Avior April 15 2021 09: 21
    +9
    fixed by A3H-B / ADS-B IN receivers, relaying information about regional and global air traffic to the servers of the "Flightradar24.com" portal

    The author can no longer just write, without loading the reader with meaningless technical details, and even written in a clumsy language (his receivers relay information)?
    It would be better if he wrote, where did he get the idea that Spikes were on board?
    And so a meaningless article, a normal author would have a message in one line - "according to the flight radar in Kiev, the C-130J has landed. The cargo on board is unknown."
    But the author sketched the information "about nothing" to the readers.
    1. Cananecat
      Cananecat April 15 2021 11: 21
      -3
      You can start with the fact that NATO understands that by supplying weapons to the military, they cannot get lost in the event of the start of full-scale military bases in the Donbass. Those. the supply of modern means should not be discredited by their unreasonable use by the I / O. Of course, one can compare the training of the Ukrainian Armed Forces with the Georgian Armed Forces and the 0808 war, but do not forget that the enemy is also learning from his defeat. I think that NATO instructors also drew conclusions from that war as we did. And if we see our conclusions in the past reforms and restructuring, then the conclusions of NATO, we will learn only in the case of the BEGINNING of the hot phase.
  • SovAr238A
    SovAr238A April 15 2021 09: 58
    +1
    In this situation, the Russian defense department should intensify the program for equipping tank units in the most unpredictable operational directions (including the Donbass) with promising Arena-M KAZ


    And where to get these KAZ in sufficient quantities?
    1. Intruder
      Intruder April 16 2021 08: 19
      +2
      where to get these KAZ in sufficient quantity
      More precisely, to do it in sufficient quantity, but it is necessary to take financing for this from meager budgetary funds, plus the modernization will take time for a dedicated fleet of equipment!
  • svp67
    svp67 April 15 2021 11: 16
    +3
    Yes, "Spike" is a more serious weapon than "Javelin" and it is capable of inflicting a lot of damage, but the question is, have the calculations already been trained or will it be calculations from NATO countries?
    1. Avior
      Avior April 15 2021 11: 27
      0
      but here is the question

      Did anyone bring them to Ukraine, or was it just in Damantsev's fantasies?
      1. svp67
        svp67 April 15 2021 11: 42
        +2
        Quote: Avior
        Did anyone bring them to Ukraine, or was it just in Damantsev's fantasies?

        It is quite possible, but what are these planes, making up to ten flights a day to Ukraine, and I do not think that these are all 9-mm cartridges for PM wink
        1. Avior
          Avior April 15 2021 11: 57
          +6
          They bring something, of course, but he easily and naturally assigns a load between times without any reason. so you can write anything about the nature of the load
        2. xorek
          xorek April 15 2021 19: 47
          +2
          Quote: svp67
          Quote: Avior
          Did anyone bring them to Ukraine, or was it just in Damantsev's fantasies?

          It is quite possible, but what are these planes, making up to ten flights a day to Ukraine, and I do not think that these are all 9-mm cartridges for PM wink

          I also think so, Sergei, the West needs the slaughter of the Slavs and the bloody the better ..
          But I think they will miscalculate this time too .. The fight will be unambiguous, but there is no other way to short .. I think the LDNR divisions have such a package on how to act and the direction of action. Their motivation has been going through the roof for a long time.
          Well, here in Russia too hi We need to solve this problem.
          1. Intruder
            Intruder April 16 2021 08: 25
            +1
            I think the LDNR divisions have such a package on how to act and the direction of action. Their motivation has been going through the roof for a long time.
            Motivation, it may well give ..., an increase in the "mountain of corpses" and this is in the real conditions of modern combat, and the Spike operators (especially, trained by Western instructors, with great combat experience in the Middle East and Yugoslavia) will happily and cheerfully thin out the remnants of the Soviet tank heritage of the LPNR, so that without the help of the RF Ministry of Defense, the shah situation here, or again a sluggish situation, will continue for years * to continue!
        3. Lord
          Lord April 16 2021 02: 04
          0
          So maybe they take out on the contrary
        4. Gato
          Gato April 16 2021 10: 43
          0
          bring

          And I, too, wonder why they bring it exactly? Maybe they, on the contrary, take something out of harm's way.
        5. Aaron Zawi
          Aaron Zawi April 17 2021 00: 12
          0
          Quote: svp67
          Quote: Avior
          Did anyone bring them to Ukraine, or was it just in Damantsev's fantasies?

          It is quite possible, but what are these planes, making up to ten flights a day to Ukraine, and I do not think that these are all 9-mm cartridges for PM wink

          Ammunition, communications, dry rations, field first aid kits. This is what is always lacking in combat.
        6. 3danimal
          3danimal April 18 2021 13: 52
          -1
          I will assume: anti-tank systems, MANPADS, communications request
          Everything you need to inflict maximum damage on our army on the territory of Ukraine.
    2. Andrey Grad
      Andrey Grad April 15 2021 11: 57
      0
      Do not hesitate to be, our labuses are already being prepared.
  • dgonni
    dgonni April 15 2021 11: 48
    0
    Damantsev is immediately recognizable by the title of the article!
    Well, the ATGM is about the defense and not the offensive!
    Well, the preparation of calculations is not a matter of one day!
  • KSVK
    KSVK April 15 2021 12: 43
    0
    thermal imaging sights based on the 3rd generation image intensifier

    The author, I beg your pardon, but the image intensifier is an electronically OPTICAL converter. Those. a conventional NVD operating in the OPTICAL range and has nothing to do with a thermal imager operating in the THERMAL range.
    1. Reiter
      Reiter April 15 2021 22: 39
      +2
      Actually, this is elementary physics. The so-called thermal range is also the optical range. Its radiation is not visible to the human eye, since infrared waves, however, these electromagnetic waves completely obey optical laws.
      "Bodies heated to the temperatures of the world around us (-50 .. + 50 degrees Celsius) have a maximum radiation in the mid-infrared range (wavelength 7..14 microns). For technical purposes, the temperature range up to hundreds of degrees, emitting in the range 3..7 microns. Temperatures of about a thousand degrees and above do not require thermal imagers for observation, their thermal glow is visible with the naked eye. "
    2. Intruder
      Intruder April 16 2021 08: 32
      +3
      but the image intensifier is an electronically OPTICAL converter.
      Well, in the Western tradition, they use: "electro-optical sensor" (Electro-optical), which is more accurate .., while it can be both: visible optical spectrum and IR | HUV of different spectral ranges !!!
  • Griffit
    Griffit April 15 2021 14: 02
    -5
    Who can say how weapons fell from Dill into the hands of separatists from the LPNR? Similarly, you can decide with this weapon. Only if this weapon is in the hands of foreign legionnaires will it pose a threat. But for this there is a BC of the north wind.
  • Pavel57
    Pavel57 April 15 2021 15: 03
    +1
    The author is recognizable by a mixture of facts, assumptions and technical characteristics.
  • Damir Samikovich
    Damir Samikovich April 15 2021 15: 40
    +2
    In principle, he is right - it is better to perebzdit than to crap)
  • Damir Samikovich
    Damir Samikovich April 15 2021 15: 42
    +2
    by and large. Damantsev gives a lot of unnecessary informatization - this is his strong point, but I think it's not difficult to grasp the essence.
  • Sergey Skokov
    Sergey Skokov April 15 2021 15: 48
    0
    War plan will show.
  • Roman1970_1
    Roman1970_1 April 15 2021 16: 01
    -1
    Or maybe he flew in for lard and didn't bring anything
  • yfast
    yfast April 15 2021 16: 30
    0
    ... telluride-cadmium-mercury matrix IR photodetectors
    The meaning is drowned in such unnecessary details.
  • Abel
    Abel April 15 2021 18: 11
    +2
    Messrs. Commentators! "If you want the best, prepare for the worst." Such a secret has been divorced in Kueva! It is unknown to understand what the Americans actually set. So let's be ready. In general, the best remedy for ATGM is "Buratino". And who was there: the Armed Forces of Ukraine, Poles, Balts, Americans, impudent - these are already details, we will figure out the remains
  • Fisherman
    Fisherman April 15 2021 19: 27
    0
    Something breakthrough will not be delivered, the Yankees have already lost their counter-battery warfare complexes near Debaltseve, some of the pots-heads were simply sold to ours. And for serious equipment it is also necessary to bring trained specialists, ready to die for "non-stale". The current mess will not be "point-like", there will be a fiery shaft and there will be few people willing to die in it.
  • xorek
    xorek April 15 2021 19: 34
    +5
    There will be no tank columns, as the West hopes, from Russia, so all these ATGMs, etc. are useless and I think this is another fake ..
    If a conflict begins, then aviation, electronic warfare and DRG with special powers and mainly from the DPR will work (the motivation is very strong there)
    They will quietly destroy the command posts and the hunt will begin, also quietly .. Russia will simply support technically, well, with advisers .. And then, like in Odessa in the Second World War .. We will wait for ourselves to sort it out among ourselves ..
    DURING THE LIBERATION OF ODESSA ON APRIL 10, 1944 FOR UNKNOWN REASONS, DURING DURING DAYS, FOLLOWING THE ONWARD TROOPS, THE NKVD TROOPS WERE NOT INTRODUCED INTO THE CITY. THIS TIME IS SUFFICIENT FOR THE ODESSITES TO TRANSLATE ALL THE POLICIES WHO HAVE NOT SUCCESSFULLY RUNNING AND THEIR ASSOCIATES.

    WHEN THE NKVD MILITARY ENTERED, THE PICTURE WAS SCARY, POLICEMAN HANGED NOT ONLY ON DERIBASOVSKAYA, BUT ON THEIR GATES.


    Something like this should be without our participation .. This is a prerequisite in the current situation
  • ramzay21
    ramzay21 April 15 2021 20: 03
    -4
    A good answer would be to supply Iran with the Bal and Bastion complexes so that life in the Persian Gulf does not seem like raspberries. But our snot chewers are not capable of such actions.
    1. xorek
      xorek April 15 2021 20: 14
      +1
      Quote: ramzay21
      A good answer would be to supply Iran with the Bal and Bastion complexes so that life in the Persian Gulf does not seem like raspberries. But our snot chewers are not capable of such actions.

      What for ? Many countries of the American continent are ready to accept our military with all weapons .. Perhaps Putin, Biden promised this exactly during the conversation.
      This will be a more effective answer, but we already support Iran, just like they do us in Syria. Thank you to them! hi They do beat them hard and provoke them, but for now, the US needs to be dealt with ..
      1. ramzay21
        ramzay21 April 15 2021 20: 23
        +2
        Putin will never take decisive action, he is a coward. If he had been decisive, then in 2008 our tanks would have entered Tbilisi, caught Saakashvili, convicted and hanged him for the murders of our soldiers and citizens, and made Georgia a pro-Russian country. And there would not have been any Maidan 2013 if Russia had taken adequate and decisive action.
        All that is happening now is the result of his inaction and the policy of chewing snot. This will continue as long as he is in power.
      2. AC130 Ganship
        AC130 Ganship April 15 2021 22: 33
        +1
        Beggar Venezuela. And (maybe) no less impoverished Cuba (not a fact, you need to check). Anyone else?
        1. ramzay21
          ramzay21 April 16 2021 23: 41
          0
          Beggar Venezuela. And (maybe) no less impoverished Cuba (not a fact, you need to check). Anyone else?

          Cuba has not already replied no to the proposal to host the base. Putin once closed our bases in Cuba and Vietnam, and no one wants to contact an unreliable partner who does not understand what he wants.
          It is a suicide to place a base in Venezuela, a change of government is possible there, and then neither the base nor the money invested in it.
    2. Sheridan
      Sheridan April 16 2021 16: 45
      -1
      Such an advisor is not enough, but he will ask for himself crazy money. Better snot than that.
  • Peter Ginburg
    Peter Ginburg April 15 2021 20: 41
    0
    ukraine turns into germany !!! under the control of America !!! the main thing is visible panties seem to have got wet! everyone should understand there will be no longer how there will be a serious warrior with Georgia
  • Valery Timoshin
    Valery Timoshin April 15 2021 20: 55
    0
    Before writing this nonsense, lying on the couch, it would be necessary to study the author of the theater, as he writes, in our steppes. If it is not clear about what, then I will explain. steppes in Donbass, have a very wide variation in heights in relief. And yet all this is crossed by forest belts, so the line of sight often does not exceed one kilometer. Terrain folds are also present. so you won't be able to shoot and hit the tank from 5000+ meters ... And to give advice to our soldiers, it's generally ridiculous. There are no fools in the headquarters!)))))))))))))
    1. Reiter
      Reiter April 15 2021 21: 02
      +5
      You have not read the text carefully. These missiles (Spike LR2) allow target designation from the side when launched from a closed position.
      "the presence of additional fiber-optic, or radio command, telemetry data transmission lines and the implementation of radio correction (control) of the ATGM" Spike-LR / -2 "on the trajectory, thanks to which the complexes of the" Spike "family are capable of firing with closed terrain elements or position structures , with the possibility of receiving target designation from third-party sources of optical-electronic / radar / radio-technical intelligence ... ". And giving helpful advice is helpful, not funny. Attention is drawn to the quite probable appearance of this weapon on the line of contact, why not think about methods of counteraction. And then, Damantsev may well end up in a military rank, maybe a reserve.
  • Eug
    Eug April 15 2021 21: 09
    0
    And for some reason they are not afraid that the complexes in the LPNR will end up ...
  • zwlad
    zwlad April 15 2021 22: 11
    -3
    Everything is lost?
  • AC130 Ganship
    AC130 Ganship April 15 2021 22: 26
    0
    During my youth, dozens of C5a, C141 and C130 flew from the United States to Europe, and the same number flew back. 20 pcs per day one way. Well, the C130 flew to Ukraine, well, he brought something there, so what of that? I understand if he quietly shipped something there, say, in Ulan-Ude or Nalchik. And Ukraine is a different country. Why raise a noise?
  • Chimera
    Chimera April 15 2021 22: 58
    +2
    Suppress air defense, and iron from the air
  • dementor873
    dementor873 April 15 2021 23: 25
    0
    In the event of an offensive in Donbass and subsequent coercion to peace, the likelihood of the seizure of this offensive weapon is high. And if there are a large number of deaths on both sides, a serious question will arise as to why NATO equipped them with these weapons. And here, like a pitchfork on the water, it is not clear what the result will be. If, due to the downed Su-24, trade with Turkey was stopped, then Nord Stream-2 could be turned off, which plays into the hands of the Americans.
  • rocket757
    rocket757 April 16 2021 07: 47
    0
    Providing Ukrainian military formations of ATGMs of the "Spike-LR / -2" line can change the operational and tactical alignment in the Donbass theater of operations
    The only question is who and how will want to end the banderlog ball.
  • Intruder
    Intruder April 16 2021 08: 45
    +2
    ATGM "Spike-LR / -2"
    by the way, "formidable baby":




  • alexander 08
    alexander 08 April 16 2021 09: 35
    0
    Only the saturation of the LDNR troops with modern military equipment will be able to resist the banderlog and amers, and their goals to capture the Donbass!
  • toha124
    toha124 April 16 2021 13: 05
    0
    For some reason, most experts and commentators, speaking about a possible full-scale conflict, talk about a classic combined-arms battle, heavily emphasizing ATGMs and other possible NATO surprises from the Armed Forces of Ukraine. Meanwhile, it is completely unclear why a potential peace enforcement operation should begin with the offensive of the masses of armored vehicles. It's not 1944 in our yard. It seems that if the operation follows, then the beginning will be somewhat different. And after this very beginning, there will simply be no large-scale battles with the participation of BTG. There will be finishing.
  • Sergey Grishechkin
    Sergey Grishechkin April 16 2021 14: 07
    0
    Author, do you think that our tank divisions will cross the border with Ukraine and go on the offensive, while the brave Ukrainian soldiers will burn our tanks with the latest Israeli anti-tank systems from afar? I strongly doubt this ... In our time, peace enforcement issues are resolved remotely, for example, by striking Iskander divisions at the enemy's decision-making centers. Something like that...
  • Li17
    Li17 April 16 2021 19: 01
    0
    As a specialist, I don't understand one thing, but who will work and maintain this weapon? Personally, I went through this when they throw you a bunch of equipment with NZ or even worse new samples ...! The Armenians also demonstrated this, we have ... and as a result, the usual window dressing, and at the level of the scenery. So, in my opinion, all this will be broken down and dismantled for one simple reason, there will be no one to accept to work on it.
  • Uma palata
    Uma palata April 17 2021 03: 32
    0
    In. This means that the preparation has gone to real deeds.
    There are several goals at once: to test your equipment, to study the possibilities of our funds, to receive money from the natives and to hang American loans on them.
    At the same time, with such equipment, military operations will no longer be fleeting, their duration will increase, respectively, the costs of Russia will increase, which is a joy to the amers.
    Well, the fact that in the course of such a war the natives in Ukraine will die in the prime of life, the amers do not ... (does not bother).
  • VLADIMIR VLADIVOSTOK
    VLADIMIR VLADIVOSTOK April 17 2021 16: 14
    -1
    This American trash will not help dill! It's just that the Americans are engaged in trade, business!
  • massaraksh
    massaraksh April 17 2021 20: 56
    0
    And the peasants did not know. wink
  • TatarinSSSR
    TatarinSSSR April 17 2021 23: 50
    -1
    One question, if the author is so well versed in all this technical confusion, then why does he not work in some analytical department of the Ministry of Defense or as an advisor there, at the headquarters? Maybe because knowledge of the technical parameters of technology and abbreviations from open sources is not enough for a real understanding of military affairs?
  • 3danimal
    3danimal April 18 2021 14: 12
    -2
    the difference from the American ATGM FGM-148 Javelin, which has anti-tank missiles with a range of no more than 2500 m and long-wave infrared seeker based on telluride-cadmium-mercury matrix IR photodetectors with a resolution of 64x64 elements (which do not differ in the highest noise immunity and the ability to select targets against a low contrast the use of IR traps

    IR trap applications ... by tanks? T-72B3? The author has definitely not confused it with aviation?
    In addition, the seeker of this ATGM is directed to the IR image of the target, and not just a heat source.
  • akims
    akims April 19 2021 15: 20
    0
    From the series: Maybe a spike, or maybe they brought toilet paper, xs