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Bards and druids of the Celts

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Bards and druids of the Celts
SR Meyrick and CH Smith. Chief Druid in Judicial Vestments


Article Celtic time we talked a little about this people, whose tribes at the peak of their expansion inhabited vast territories of Europe. Now we will continue this story and talk about the culture of the Celts and its influence on the European literature of the Middle Ages, modern times and our days.

As we remember, the Celts of mainland Europe were assimilated by other peoples. And only on the outskirts of their habitat - in Ireland, Scotland, Wales, French Brittany, they managed to save historical memory and some national identity.


Regions of residence of peoples of Celtic origin

Celtic "tales"


The Irish managed to preserve the most complete and integral Celtic epic. The main legends here were created in prosaic form (which is not quite typical - after all, poetry is easier to memorize). It is known that Celtic bards also composed songs that were performed to the harp, but they had nothing to do with the epic. These were songs of three types: crying, laughter and sleep. According to the legends, the most skillful bards sang a song of crying in such a way that the listeners died of grief. Only in the XNUMXth century, after acquaintance with the Norman sagas, short songs-ballads were written on old epic plots. And under the influence of the Christian Church, attempts were made to get rid of the pagan elements. It was not possible to completely remove them, and the appearance of the same Merlin, probably, remained almost unchanged. But the images of King Arthur and the Knights of the Round Table were strongly Christianized. The plots, apparently, have changed little, but the symbolism has been replaced by Christian ones.

In Ireland, their epic legends are called "tales", in our country for some reason they were called sagas. This title is extremely unfortunate and disorientates readers, who involuntarily put these works on a par with the sagas of the Scandinavian countries. Meanwhile, the Scandinavian sagas are absolutely different from the Irish "stories", and their compilers would be outraged by such a comparison.

The "Sagas of Kings" or Icelandic ancestral sagas are emphatically documentary. Their authors constantly invite their readers to check the story, referring to the testimonies of reputable and well-known people. They illustrate the narration of the skalds with visami, who could not lie by definition, and the peculiarities of versification are such that it is impossible to replace even one letter in a line. Describe in detail the genealogy of the heroes.

There is nothing like this in Irish stories, and their authors do not even try to portray plausibility. In addition, Irish authors clearly used the traditions of the indigenous Pictish tribe who inhabited the British Isles before the arrival of the Celts. Even the protagonist of the Irish epic Cuchulainn is endowed with Pictish features. He is described as a small, nondescript man, dark-haired and dark-skinned. The Celts were tall, red-haired, and looked more like the Germans. Polybius wrote about the Celts:

"These people are tall and hardy, beautiful and blue-eyed."

But the vivid plots and poetry of these works, as we have already said, made a great impression on European authors. And they had a significant impact on the formation of Western European literature.

Druids and bards


How did the Celtic tribes, who did not know writing, manage to preserve the legends that arose at the beginning of the new era and existed only in oral form for 7-8 centuries?

The keepers of mythical and ancestral heroic legends all this time were pagan priests, called bards. And the druids were the highest caste of bards, their authority was incredibly high, among the people they were revered above kings. And, according to Julius Caesar (who fought a lot with the Gauls), the main center for training druids was in the British Isles.

It was the Druids who kept old legends in their memory, and also performed religious rites in sacred oak groves, made sacrifices (the Romans argued that the sacrifices were sometimes human).


Joseph Martin Kronheim. Druids with wreaths of oak leaves while collecting mistletoe

Diodorus Siculus argued that the Druids considered the souls of people to be immortal, capable of acquiring life in another body, and compared the religion of the Celts with the teachings of Pythagoras.

In addition, druids served as judges.


Archdruid in judicial vestments. Illustration from the book "Old England", 1845. Archdruid wore yellow clothes, other druids - white, students - brown

Druids were often asked to name a child or a new village or city. The ceremony of naming the baby was accompanied by the prediction of his future. In order to correct his fate, the child was assigned ritual taboos for life - gays. Additional gays could be imposed upon marriage or a change in social status (for example, during a coronation). Sometimes these prohibitions were completely unobtrusive, for example, not to wear clothes of a certain color. But sometimes a person because of them faced big problems.

It was the gays that caused the death of Ireland's greatest hero, Cuchulainn. He was forbidden to eat dog meat, as well as food cooked on the side of the road. But at the same time, it was impossible to refuse the treat. On the eve of the battle in which he died, he was offered dog meat cooked on the sidelines. And then there were geese, similar to modern "challenges". The same Cuchulainn once cut down a trunk with four branches, stuck it in a sandbank by the ford, and planted a bloody head on each branch. Then he imposed on the warriors of the Queen of Connaught Medb geis: do not cross the ford until someone rips out the barrel in the same way as it was stuck - with the fingers of one hand.


J. Leyendecker. Cuchulainn in battle

In modern Irish, the word "druid" means "sorcerer." Currently, two versions of its origin have been put forward.

According to the first, it comes from the Celtic words "dru -vid -es": vid literally translates as "knowledge", dru is suggested to be translated as "oak".

According to another version, the word "druid" is also compound: vid in this case is considered a root with the same meaning ("to know, to own knowledge"). And the first part of the word is dru, supporters of this version consider a prefix expressing the superlative degree of something.


Archdruids and Druids, illustration from Old England, 1845

Druids, bards, and healers all learned from the same teacher. But bards and healers did not necessarily become druids. And the druid was also a healer and a bard.

Only druids could be teachers, and it was they who were the keepers of ancient traditions, which they learned by heart. The most distinguished, perhaps, composed their own works of a religious nature.

Having captured the southern part of Britain, the Romans considered the Druids their main enemies, brutally persecuted them and cut down the sacred groves.

One level below the druids, there were bards who praised heroes and battles. And finally, the bards of the third, lower order served kings. They praised their ancestors, as well as the wealth, strength and bravery of their master.

How did the training of bards go?

The candidates lived with their teacher, who at the end of the training period could accept them into the caste of bards or let them go without giving them such a title. A slave who was chosen to be a disciple immediately received freedom. Since he now had the right to wear a wreath of birch leaves on his head, it was said in Ireland:

"A birch branch breaks the fetters from your feet."

The bard reached the highest rank through poetic competition.

Once every three years, in the presence of the king and the heads of the clan clans, as well as numerous spectators, the bards who appeared at the competition in turn sang songs composed by them. The winner sat on a gilded chair, he was declared the country's chief bard and the bard enthroned. After this, the royal judge handed him a silver harp. In the next three years, it was he who evaluated the poetry of other bards, and received double payment for his songs. Every girl who got married was obliged to give him a gift. There was a separate room in the royal palace, which could only be occupied by the head bard. It was considered a great honor if he agreed to the position of educator of children from the most noble families or heir to the throne.

However, any other bard could become a guest of the king. In this case, the king was obliged to give him a harp, a horse from the royal stable, as well as clothes worth three cows - to the bard himself and his wife. And the queen gave a gold ring on her behalf.

At feasts, the king would place the bard next to him. For this, at the request of the king or courtiers, he was obliged to sing three songs on different topics (sadness, laughter and sleep), and at the request of the queen - three songs about love. But for ordinary people, the bard had to sing "to the point of exhaustion."

The personality of any bard was inviolable, even for a verbal insult, the offender was obliged to pay the virus - 6 cows and 120 coins. Nobody even thought about physical violence against the bard. In the entire centuries-old history of the existence of this caste, only one case of the murder of a bard has been recorded. The perpetrator was brutally executed, the murder weapon cursed.

Bards were not allowed to wear weapon, however, they went on military campaigns: they sang before the battle and during the battles. In addition to the share of the booty that was due to each warrior, they also received a bull. Also, they were not allowed to engage in physical labor.

Celtic motives of Western European literature


The first to fall under the charm of Celtic heroic legends were the conquerors of the Angles, and then the Normans who seized England. The first attempt to write them down was made in the first half of the 1136th century. Between 1148-XNUMX Bishop Galfried of Monmouth, commissioned by King Henry II of England, wrote The History of the Kings of Britain in Latin. He began his story with a detailed story about the first British king - Brutus, the great-grandson of Aeneas (!). As you probably guessed, this piece was clearly influenced by ancient sources.

But much more famous and interesting is another chapter in which Galfrid retold some of the Celtic heroic legends. It was in it in Western European literature that the names of King Arthur (whose image Galfrid romanticized and significantly ennobled) and his faithful knights, who were destined to become beloved heroes of many generations of Europeans, were first heard.

Galfried of Monmouth continued his work in 1140-1150. literary processed almost all Welsh legends, which are now known under the names "Life of Merlin" and "History of Tallesin".


Galfridus Monemutensis, a monument in Tintern, Wales

Already in 1155, the monk Weiss of Jersey translated the works of Galfrid into French. But he did not limit himself to a simple translation: he came up with original storylines and supplemented the narrative with new details. One of Weis's major literary finds was the story of King Arthur's famous Round Table.

The Novel on the History of the Grail, written later by Robert de Boron, states that King Arthur's Round Table is the last of the three sacred Grail tables. During the first of them the Last Supper was served. And the second belonged to Joseph of Arimathea - on it he put a cup with the blood of Christ.


Winchester Castle Round Table, about 5,5 meters in diameter. It is believed to have been made for a tournament hosted in April 1290 by King Edward I

In the second half of the XNUMXth century, legends about King Arthur also spread to the south of France - to Aquitaine, which was destined to become the birthplace of the classical knightly tradition. In the novels of Chrétien de Trois ("The Knight of the Cart, or Lancelot," "The Tale of the Grail, or Perceval"), readers found not just a retelling of the works of Galfried of Monmouth, but a manifesto of the ideals of chivalry. This is a unique case of such a significant influence of fiction on the real political and military history of an entire continent.

Under the clear influence of the novels of Chrétien de Troyes around 1215-1235. in Old French, an unknown author (or - authors) wrote a cycle of novels called "The Vulgate": "The History of the Grail", "Merlin" (attributed to Robert de Boron), "The Book of Lancelot Ozernom", "The Search for the Holy Grail", " Death of Arthur ". Other names for this cycle are "Lancelot in Prose" and "Lancelot-Grail".

And in Germany in 1210, Wolfram von Eschenbach's poetic novel "Parzival" was published (in which the Grail unexpectedly turned out to be "a stone that fell from heaven"). R. Wagner, by the way, left the Grail as a cup in his famous opera.


"Scene from the opera Parzival", photo postcard, Berlin, 1908

By the way, Eschenbach's novel takes place in France and Camelot ended up in Nantes.

In the 1485th century, having made a circle around Europe, these stories returned to the British Isles - here, too, the first romances of chivalry appeared. And finally, in XNUMX, Thomas Mallory's famous novel The Death of Arthur was published, which contained the most complete retelling of the legends of the Arthurian cycle. And Ulrich von Zatsikhoven wrote a novel about the life of Lancelot.

The legends of the Arthurian cycle continued to live on. Over time, there were also parodies, such as the novel by Mark Twain "The Connecticut Yankees at the Court of King Arthur." Then the heroes of chivalric novels boldly stepped onto the theatrical and operatic stages. And since the twentieth century, they have become heroes of a huge number of films and cartoons.

The first of the films, Parzival (based on Wagner's opera), was released in the USA in 1904. It is interesting in that they tried to synchronize the action with the arias that were recorded on the records. At the moment, the number of film adaptations is difficult to count.

The most titled of these films was the musical Camelot (1967, directed by Joshua Logan, three Academy Awards and three Golden Globes). Two more films received awards at the Cannes Film Festival: Lancelot Ozerny (1974, directed by Robber Bresson, special prize) and Excalibur (1981, directed by John Burman, prize for artistic contribution to the development of cinema).

In addition, Celtic ethnic music, which is performed not only by folklore ensembles, but also by rock groups, is quite popular all over the world now. It can be modern arrangements of old melodies, and new stylized compositions. There are such groups in our country as well.


Natalia O'Shea, better known as Helavisa. PhD in Philology, linguist, specialist in Celtic languages, culture and folklore of the Irish peoples

In the next article we will continue the story about the heroes of the Arthurian cycle and talk not only about this king, but also about some of the knights of the Round Table, about Merlin and two fairies - Morgan and the Lady of the Lake, Lady Vivienne. And then we'll talk about the Grail.
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  1. Catfish
    Catfish April 11 2021 05: 48
    +9
    Good morning friends! hi
    I never thought that I would be excited and without stopping to read about druids and bards, but Valery knows how to captivate his reader.
    No, really, I never imagined that it would be so interesting. smile good
    And since the twentieth century, they have become heroes of a huge number of films and cartoons.

    We also made a film on this topic "New Adventures of the Yankees at the Court of King Arthur", I watched it as soon as it came out, and I liked the film.




    1. Kote Pan Kokhanka
      Kote Pan Kokhanka April 11 2021 06: 46
      +5
      Good morning everyone!
      Thanks to Valery for the article, and thanks to Konstantin for the sketch for the film. I was sincerely surprised that I didn’t know.
      1. Catfish
        Catfish April 11 2021 07: 04
        +5
        Good morning Vlad!
        A very beautiful and richly made film, Many famous actors, excellent direction and camera work.
        One of the last scenes, Frank goes to a duel with all the Knights of the Round Table.
        1. Sling cutter
          Sling cutter April 11 2021 07: 23
          +3
          Quote: Sea Cat
          Frank goes to a duel with all the Knights of the Round Table.

          And the shaigu will be there when he comes? wink laughing drinks
          1. Catfish
            Catfish April 11 2021 07: 59
            +7
            Shaigu, who is this, or what?
            1. Richard
              Richard April 11 2021 08: 29
              +4
              Natalia O'Shea, better known as Helavisa. PhD in Philology, linguist, specialist in Celtic languages, culture and folklore of the Irish peoples

              EMNIP, Helavisa is Natalia Nikolaeva - the leader of the Melnitsa group
              1. Catfish
                Catfish April 11 2021 08: 41
                +5
                Dima, this is all in the article, there is even a photo of this Natalia. I read the article, saw the photo.
                But our colleague wrote "shaigu" and with a capital letter, and Natalia's surname sounds somewhat differently - O "Shey. In my opinion, you here have a little off-the-record forgiven. smile
                Let's wait for what the landing party will say about this. drinks
                1. Van 16
                  Van 16 April 11 2021 08: 57
                  +6
                  To be absolutely precise, Nikolaeva is just her maiden name. In addition to "The Mill", I would also mention Meldis (Anastasia Papisova) and, for fun, "Troll Oppression Spruce" (but these are more inclined to Scandinavian folklore) hi
                  1. Catfish
                    Catfish April 11 2021 09: 08
                    +7
                    Ivan hi , thanks for the information, I am in these matters like that Cambodian student - either Phnom Penh, or Penpnhem. laughing
              2. VLR
                April 11 2021 09: 11
                +6
                Quite right. Nikolaeva is her maiden name
                1. Richard
                  Richard April 11 2021 10: 09
                  +6
                  Well, Konstantin. Draw. smile
                  You didn't know her last name. And I, that she got married.
                  Experts have put everything in its place.
                  Thank you, friends, for the detailed information. drinks
                  1. Catfish
                    Catfish April 11 2021 10: 50
                    +5
                    Well, Konstantin. Draw.

                    Dima, and I didn't even need to know her last name, and even more so about her family life. I have never heard her songs and I have no desire to listen. I am not interested in our stage in any of its manifestations. request
                    1. VLR
                      April 11 2021 11: 15
                      +6
                      Helavisa is not a very typical Russian singer. At least two things stand out sharply against the general background. Try searching for "Duet of Love" and "Isis under the Veil" (you can additionally type "The Last Test" in the search bar).
                      1. Catfish
                        Catfish April 11 2021 12: 22
                        +4
                        Thank you, Valery. smile There will be a mood, of course I will listen. drinks
                      2. bubalik
                        bubalik April 11 2021 16: 59
                        +4
                        Uncle Kostya, Chancellor Guy still listen, I assure you, you will like some of the songs good
                      3. Catfish
                        Catfish April 11 2021 17: 07
                        +2
                        Thank you, Sergey. I'll find now. smile
                  2. Richard
                    Richard April 11 2021 12: 43
                    +3
                    Helavisa is not a very typical Russian singer. At least two things stand out sharply against the general background.

                    No, Valery, don't even try to convince Constantine. Useless. yes
                    Helavisa could be of interest to our respected weapons guru in only one way - with these two things. smile

                    Then they would immediately find a common language drinks
                  3. Catfish
                    Catfish April 11 2021 13: 19
                    +3
                    I would, Dima, your self-confidence, would have been a general long ago ... probably. laughing
                2. ANB
                  ANB April 11 2021 13: 02
                  +5
                  ... Helavisa is not quite a typical Russian singer

                  Call of the blood, Wolfhound, Witch :)
                3. VLR
                  April 11 2021 15: 56
                  +5
                  "Irish cider" can still be added
              3. bubalik
                bubalik April 11 2021 16: 57
                +3
                Helavisa
                Hello! hi
                A couple of norm songs from Helavisa.
                So for me Chancellor Guy is better. Especially the Admiral. bully
            2. Trilobite Master
              Trilobite Master April 11 2021 12: 26
              +6
              Quote: Sea Cat
              I have never heard her songs and I have no desire to listen.

              Maybe in vain, Uncle Kostya.
              This is not pop music or pop music. The girl is clearly not deprived of talent: poetic lyrics, original melodies, good vocals. For an amateur. I like. smile
              1. Catfish
                Catfish April 11 2021 12: 38
                +3
                Good afternoon, Misha. hi
                Maybe in vain, I didn't listen to her. If there is a desire, I will listen. drinks

                I just listened to what Dima posted - it did not make an impression. And in the hall, the girls, of course, stick out from her song. smile
              2. Trilobite Master
                Trilobite Master April 11 2021 13: 10
                +4
                "The road of sleep" ... smile
                Well, yes, perhaps this song is the most typical for her work. If she didn't go, then, probably, you can not try. smile
                But still, not a elder. Compared to what is clogging the air today - quite good music. smile
              3. Catfish
                Catfish April 11 2021 13: 15
                +3
                Somehow I didn't work out with the air for a long time, I have a box, but I don't look, in the car I always ask to turn off the radio. request
              4. Trilobite Master
                Trilobite Master April 11 2021 13: 46
                +3
                I have two sons. The youngest is seventeen, lives with us. Favorite groups - Spleen and Bi-2, Luna (with emphasis on the first syllable). Sometimes I ask him to launch something that is popular among his classmates, friends, just to be in the know. Basically, in my opinion, a frank slag, in comparison with which the work of the same Helavisa is simply masterpieces of harmony and style. Rarely, rarely, among this slag, something comes across that, in my opinion, is worthy of attention.
                Fortunately, no one asks us. They have their own music, just like we had our own. My parents did not love, did not understand and continue to dislike and do not understand, for example, Russian rock. And I hate Russian rap. Everything is correct, it should be so.
              5. Catfish
                Catfish April 11 2021 14: 42
                +4
                I grew up on American rock - Halley, Presley (who remembers them now)), I just don't perceive Russian rock. My son, until he grew up, preferred to listen to Alice, my daughter is indifferent to all groups, loves to listen to completely different things to suit my mood, as, in general, I am.
                The rest, of course, is true - "everyone has their own music." smile
                It should be so.
              6. Phil77
                Phil77 April 11 2021 15: 07
                +3
                Buddy, what about Chuck Berry?!?!

                Elvis of course for all time!

                No, these guys are difficult / impossible / to forget!
              7. Catfish
                Catfish April 11 2021 15: 22
                +2
                Here is Chuck, whom I don’t remember, but if you listen, I will remember for sure. I also love old Ray and Harry Belafonte.

              8. Phil77
                Phil77 April 11 2021 15: 36
                +2
                Nuuu. Here is the most cocky, the most hooligan, the funniest, the most, the most danceable. This is Chuck Berry !!!!! Yes, you remember and you know him, I'm sure!
              9. Catfish
                Catfish April 11 2021 15: 46
                +3
                They brought me in, now I was sitting listening to Ray, then Paul Robson's "Sixteen Tons" with its growling bass. good
              10. Phil77
                Phil77 April 11 2021 15: 50
                +3
                Dear friend, listen to Chuck !!!! You will be jumping with a cat! Cheer from the first chords !!! good good good
              11. Catfish
                Catfish April 11 2021 15: 55
                +3
                Of course I will. smile drinks
              12. Catfish
                Catfish April 11 2021 16: 06
                +2
                From the first chord "Turn Beethoven" immediately remembered, of course! I sit listening, and the cat faded like a fly when I turned it on in full so that Masha could hear. good drinks
  2. Trilobite Master
    Trilobite Master April 11 2021 15: 46
    +5
    I had no access to Western musical culture as a child. Well, ABBA, Boney Em, and so, individual hits of different artists. It was only in the 90s that I finally got to know the Beatles, Rollings, Zepellins, Dipypel, etc. properly. At the same time, more recent music began to reach me, such as Dire Straits (I loved them), Eurythmix, Duran-Duran, Bee Gees, yes, you can't remember all of them. But so that for the soul - only our rock music: Naumenko, Tsoi, Kinchev, Shevchuk, Butusov, Grebenshchikov, Revyakin, Shakhrin, Chigrakov, Shklyarsky, Grigoryan, Chistyakov ... You can't list them all. But it is my music that is in these names.
  3. Okolotochny
    Okolotochny April 12 2021 12: 26
    0
    Shklyarsky
    - "Picnic", good
  4. Phil77
    Phil77 April 11 2021 16: 05
    +5
    I agree Mikhail! Russian rap. Yes, it would be better if it did not exist at all! Here is a typically Negro, * Harlem * direction. And yes, they do it somehow organically. But when they see a white kid, covered in chains, with pants down, in a shapeless football shirt / sizes on - twenty more / and something muttering into the microphone ?! Yes, two fingers in your mouth are not necessary!
  5. Okolotochny
    Okolotochny April 12 2021 12: 25
    -1
    The girl is clearly …… .. For an amateur. I like.

    That's how I, too .... Like))
  • Korsar4
    Korsar4 April 11 2021 13: 15
    +7
    This is not really a stage. Not even a stage at all. She sings Kipling wonderfully.

    For this article, the "Hymn to the Trees" simply asks.
    And my songs are very interesting. "Korolevna", for example.
    1. Catfish
      Catfish April 11 2021 13: 21
      +4
      Kipling? But this is already interesting.
    2. Korsar4
      Korsar4 April 11 2021 20: 53
      +3
      Yes. Listen. Worth it.
  • Richard
    Richard April 12 2021 03: 09
    +2
    She sings Kipling in a tempting way. For this article, the "Hymn to the Trees" simply asks.

    Thanks for the tip, Sergey.
    I did not know this song of hers. And now I listened - I liked it. I threw it into the car. For the road, the very thing good
  • Korsar4
    Korsar4 April 12 2021 04: 43
    +2
    The theme of roads is everywhere.
    And I like Kipling since childhood.
  • ANB
    ANB April 11 2021 13: 01
    +4
    Uh-huh. She married an Irishman.
    But the article is clearly not her photo. Not similar (compare with the roller), the harp is not so (Natalia has a smaller size).
  • depressant
    depressant April 11 2021 13: 01
    +3
    Thank you, Dmitry!))))
    Heard once more than once, gone, dissolved in time, and now remembered - it was!

    Good afternoon dear friends! love good ))))
    1. Catfish
      Catfish April 11 2021 13: 22
      +3
      Good afternoon, Lyudmila. love How are you, how are you? smile
      1. depressant
        depressant April 11 2021 13: 34
        +5
        How can I say, Kostya ...
        Alive! I rejoice in the dazzling sun, the excellent article and the people gathered around it. It’s like a fire in a forest, and carriers of minds and interesting thoughts are drawn to that fire from behind the trees of a dark thicket. You can't survive without this)))
        1. Catfish
          Catfish April 11 2021 14: 52
          +3
          Luda, you describe a night fire in such a figurative way that I shuddered, for a second imagining THAT could reach out from the darkness of the thicket to a lone traveler by the fire.
          1. depressant
            depressant April 11 2021 15: 21
            +3
            I suppose these are tourists from a nearby parking lot, who ate everything they had, and in order not to eat each other, reached out to our fire in the hope that they would be fed. How wrong they were! Spiritual food is not a helper for the stomach.
          2. Catfish
            Catfish April 11 2021 15: 33
            +4
            ... to our fire ...


            "Are you sad, my friend?
            Does Paris prevent you from living?
            Look, there is taiga around you.
            Throw some wood on the fire
            Listen honey
            He is there, and you are at the devil's horns. "(C)
          3. depressant
            depressant April 11 2021 15: 45
            +2
            He is there, and you are at the devil's horns. "(C)


            "I have a binge from loneliness -
            At night I hear voices ...
            I hear - suddenly they call me by my patronymic, - I looked - damn it, - these are miracles!
            The devil made faces and blinked at me,
            And I quietly told him:

            “I, brother, got drunk with cognac just like that!
            Well, you must be drinking denatured alcohol ...
            Listen, devil-devil-devil-devil,
            Sit with me - I will be very glad ...
            Are you really a damn coward ?!
            Get off your shoulder, or I'll cross! "

            Source: https://poemata.ru/poets/vysotskiy-vladimir/pro-cherta/

            This is what the bards compose with us! )))
            It looks more like a vagant. The only difference is that the songs of the vagants are monstrously long. I am surprised that the audience did not fall asleep. Unless it was the only source of information about significant events.
            But as for the authentic, Celtic, bards, I did not find anything intelligible. Or Irish and hardly authentic.
          4. Catfish
            Catfish April 11 2021 15: 53
            +2
            They also wrote this:
            "The one-eyed but pretty night has filled up the sunset,
            Pulls rabbit soup from grandfather Mazay,
            Having laid her almost burnt daughter on the floor from the stove,
            Having hooked a shotgun, I crawl out onto the path.

            I wander through the swamp, check out the mushroom spots,
            I will lower my soul to bask in the stars
            Yes, in conscience, you need to fix the cop grave,
            That in the spring he scared me with a shot in the air. "(C)
          5. depressant
            depressant April 11 2021 15: 58
            +2
            Murderer))))
            The picture is like an illustration for the books of the STALKER series.
            Brave men will always find a way around !!
          6. Catfish
            Catfish April 11 2021 16: 04
            +3
            And this is the intro to one of the "Stalker" mods, and "The Murderer" from the Colonel is the soundtrack there. smile
            Seryoga convinced me - I sit listening to Chuck Berry and bastard. drinks
          7. depressant
            depressant April 11 2021 16: 08
            +3
            So, "The Colonel and Brothers" ... And how did such a masterpiece group pass me by ?! Apparently, in those years, immersed in the vicissitudes of life, I no longer listened to music. I took a note of the group. She's not humor at all.
          8. Catfish
            Catfish April 11 2021 16: 28
            +3
            They have a song "Again", pay attention.

            "Again they call from the street to a rally,
            Again they shoot those who do not go,
            Smolny Institute is filled again,
            And if you ask who, they will not answer ... "
            (rhyme to the word is coming from completely profanity) smile
          9. depressant
            depressant April 11 2021 22: 37
            +2
            I will address. I found a selection of songs from this group. Sometimes on VO, on some topic, videos with soldiers' songs with a guitar come across. And, unprofessional or semi-professional, they hit me hard. Despite the fact that I am a lover of the classics. These are the vicissitudes of perception. I guess I'm a celt wassat lol
          10. Korsar4
            Korsar4 April 12 2021 04: 45
            +1
            From now on - in more detail.
          11. depressant
            depressant April 12 2021 09: 13
            +3
            And just type in Yandex "Colonel and fellow soldiers" to listen for free, and Yandex will give you a selection. Natural singing of natural Russian people)))
          12. Korsar4
            Korsar4 April 12 2021 09: 42
            +4
            And this will justify your Celtic inclinations?
          13. depressant
            depressant April 12 2021 11: 36
            +4
            Yes, I have no Celtic inclinations! wassat There is a craving for something real. Rather, to the truth ...
            Today I went on the topic of Cosmonautics Day and suddenly felt how quickly that time moved away from me and no longer evokes nostalgia for those times, or a desire to return them. There was a mistake. The public was too dominant over the personal. Now the personal prevails over the public. Both are dead ends, the golden mean has not been found, and I find myself staring intently at the future, it is dark, it will be unpleasant to live in, how uncomfortable it was to live in the 80s. The commonality of fate with the Celts can be seen in many ways.
          14. Richard
            Richard April 12 2021 17: 10
            +3
            There is a craving for something real. Rather, to the truth ...

            Pliny the Elder all his life was looking for the truth in everything and relying on the experience of past years, he left his famous descendants - "In vino veritas"
          15. depressant
            depressant April 12 2021 17: 36
            +3
            Dmitry, depending on how you interpret laughing
        2. Korsar4
          Korsar4 April 12 2021 18: 49
          +2
          Finding harmony is not easy. And also stable.
        3. depressant
          depressant April 12 2021 18: 55
          +2
          But the truth is not even at the bottom of the glass and not in the language of a drunken person. In the language of a drunken man, betrayal.
  • Catfish
    Catfish April 12 2021 16: 13
    +5
    I guess I'm a celt


    Well then Celt just needs a "Colt"! soldier

  • Richard
    Richard April 12 2021 16: 55
    +3
    Celt needs a Colt

    Cult cult - kilt and colt smile
  • Catfish
    Catfish April 12 2021 17: 10
    +3
    So it is understandable. wink In Russian it sounds like this: "No pants, but with a hat." laughing
  • Korsar4
    Korsar4 April 12 2021 18: 50
    +3
    There is silk on the belly, and a crack in the belly.
  • Catfish
    Catfish April 12 2021 18: 55
    +3
    Well, you can't tell about it by his face, he ate a duck. laughing

    Hello, Sergey! drinks
  • Korsar4
    Korsar4 April 12 2021 19: 32
    +3
    Hi Constantine!

    You can read a lot on the face, but not everything.
  • Catfish
    Catfish April 12 2021 19: 52
    +2
    Well, if this uncle is to be believed ...
  • Korsar4
    Korsar4 April 12 2021 20: 35
    +3
    “The enemy did not believe, you fool,
    The one to whom he entrusted everything
    Was a chekist, intelligence major
    And a wonderful family man ”(c).
  • Catfish
    Catfish April 12 2021 20: 57
    +2
    The one to whom he entrusted everything
    There was a Chekist, an intelligence major ...

    And the result was not slow to show itself. laughing

  • Korsar4
    Korsar4 April 12 2021 21: 05
    +2
    "And I have any sea
    Knee-deep "(c).
  • Catfish
    Catfish April 12 2021 21: 31
    +1
    Swam, we know. laughing

  • depressant
    depressant April 12 2021 16: 59
    +2
    Yes, there was a Beretta, the firing pin was junk. When I moved to the Moscow region, I threw it away: there were no documents for it, it was altered for a gas cartridge. I was afraid that the police would check the luggage and find it. In general, I still grieve. I thought the end of the 90th, that's it! And it can burst again, any day. Such are the sad things crying
  • Catfish
    Catfish April 12 2021 17: 18
    +3
    There is a lot I can say, but considering that I am dealing with a woman, I will hold my tongue. For converting a combat barrel into a gas one, I would simply put it against the wall and shoot in public, slowly and not immediately. And the fact that you threw it away is probably correct. There is no more sense from such rubbish than from castrato in the sense of reproduction of offspring.
    And to which area of ​​the Moscow region did you move? I have an old house in the Monino area, but I haven’t been there for a long time, my relatives live in it. hi
  • depressant
    depressant April 12 2021 18: 51
    +3
    Looked at Monino. The town in the forest, the air, the trees, everyone is delighted, don't go in vain, Kostya. The main thing is where to stay.
  • Catfish
    Catfish April 12 2021 18: 54
    +4
    Me and near Ryazan is quite at ease. Moreover, there are friends here and, what is important, doctors who pulled me out of the afterlife. Yes, and too lazy to wander somewhere, age, remember how Abdullah said: "Now I have become old, lazy, but do you remember what you were like?" smile
  • depressant
    depressant April 12 2021 19: 04
    +3
    I will not advise you to quit smoking wassat They say that if you are very used to it, then giving up the habit can worsen your health. It is better to inhale more of the healing air of your area. They say that there was once a huge forest blockage near Ryazan, so that the nomads did not reach the city. Probably, by tradition, you have many wonderful forests there.
  • Catfish
    Catfish April 12 2021 19: 49
    +4
    There is a forest, of course, but a luxurious reserve on the other side of the Oka, but we have a pond right under the house. smile

    Our house is to the left, in that direction there is another bay for a hundred meters.
  • depressant
    depressant April 12 2021 20: 40
    +1
    Oh, Kostya! ... They reminded me. About a week ago, early in the morning, I look out the window, and there is a tree, the one that grew in the middle of the clearing 10 meters from the path, now grows right next to it, has come closer and as if the goal has to come even closer to me. Either she didn't realize it from sleep, or she was already sick, but it took a lot of time to understand: the trunk is reflected in the lake that spilled around - the glade was flooded to a diagonal path, and the reflection of the trunk merged with the trunk itself in such a natural way that distinguish! And until the lake was absorbed into the soil, the tree frightened me with its unnatural appearance, and it seemed to me that I was sick, not because a plumber neighbor breathed the flu on me through the door open to him when the thermometer asked, but because the tree approached and was causing damage ... And she laid down a law for herself: the tree will return to its proper place, and I will recover. And it happened! Today the lake disappeared, as if I was not sick, and yesterday the ambulance took away my neighbor.
    Probably, this is how the legends of the goblin were born. After all, goblin are like trees)))
  • Catfish
    Catfish April 12 2021 20: 54
    +3
    Goblin - their guys, as the Cat say, "sat at the table, sat." smile
  • depressant
    depressant April 12 2021 20: 59
    +3
    What a lovely drawing! What pleases me now is the immeasurably growing skill of the artists illustrating fairy tales. I have found many masterpieces on the Internet.
  • Catfish
    Catfish April 12 2021 21: 29
    +2


    So she looks like our neighbor after a couple of houses that I can't even believe, although she is a very sympathetic and kind woman. smile
  • depressant
    depressant April 12 2021 21: 49
    +2
    And on mine! )))
    Lives in an apartment one floor below, right below me. And outwardly, she is similar, and in character is such that even plumbers are afraid of her, and everyone bypasses her. You talk to someone like that, and it’s like you’ll get over it. Everyone shuns her, but the lady's sociability is extremely high, she proclaimed herself a house manager, and in order not to have a headache from a dispute with her, everyone silently agreed, and now she easily bursts into any apartment under the most idiotic pretexts, imperiously, in a disgusting loud voice demanding: "Open up!" But people are not stupid either, they have adapted. She is a little deaf and hears only a long ring - this is when they call her, because she is used to the fact that the call should be long. And when such a doorbell rings, people realize that it is her, and pretend that they are not at home. wassat
    This is how, probably, the noble sorceress witch at one time was transformed by the popular consciousness into a witch, which it is advisable to avoid - this is when she has grown old)))
    But the most interesting thing is that my attempts to find this kind of Celtic mythology were unsuccessful. I suspect that all this demoniade - lords, ghouls, witches, sorcerers, all this evil spirits - is somehow connected with the adoption of Christianity, but not with primitive beliefs.
  • Catfish
    Catfish April 12 2021 22: 06
    +1
    Yes, Christians had everything in order with the devil. am
  • depressant
    depressant April 12 2021 22: 32
    +1
    But Dostoevsky was not a drunk, was he? He was a player)))
  • Catfish
    Catfish April 12 2021 22: 42
    +1
    Who knows. And is it Dostoevsky? Only the devils and the bottle of Russian are real, under Dostoevsky, the kingdom of heaven to him, there was no such mark. smile
  • depressant
    depressant April 12 2021 22: 47
    +2
    Well, you threw up an idea, someone will read it and say with interest: "Why not?" I saw "Moonshine" vodka on sale wassat
  • Catfish
    Catfish April 12 2021 23: 10
    +1
    I'm not very fond of vodka, but "without fish", and so, all my youth was spent on what we called "port", now I also prefer "Port", but only ours, vintage "Crimean" and preferably red. From strong, of course "pirate" Rum. smile
  • depressant
    depressant April 12 2021 23: 22
    +2
    Beautiful advertising ... I am familiar with brands of alcohol only from books and store shelves, I am not a connoisseur. The father made wine from his grapes. It was not nameless and bore the proud name "Isabella"))) And there was also a proud "Chacha" lol
    All this stuff was checked out by the guests.
  • Catfish
    Catfish April 12 2021 23: 51
    +2
    Chacha - Georgia? I tried what they brought, in my opinion, nothing special, but "Isabella", if it is a miracle done correctly, is as good. smile
  • depressant
    depressant April 13 2021 00: 21
    +2
    According to connoisseurs, homemade isabella is incredibly good, shop wine is not that, and the taste of homemade chacha differs from the taste of bazaar one. The strength is 2 degrees, they drink only in stacks, not glasses.
  • Catfish
    Catfish April 13 2021 00: 28
    +1
    I agree that store-bought wine is not that, but I love Crimean vintage wine, even though it is store-bought, but where can I get home wine. And 70 turns of the fortress ... once I drank pure alcohol undiluted, there was a time, but now ... a friend gave me a bottle of 0,7 excellent Bacardi on DR, where Masha and I drank her half a day by a glass, and at least ate it periodically , but still gave the balls. smile
  • Korsar4
    Korsar4 April 12 2021 20: 41
    +5
    We spotted a lot: Kaluzhsky, Kozelsky, Belevsky, right up to Pereyaslavl-Ryazansky.
  • depressant
    depressant April 12 2021 20: 54
    +2
    And around Kiev or somewhere nearby there is still a huge earthen rampart)))
    As for the Ryazan region, where our Kostya lives, this summer he had a chance to see amazing space photographs. It turns out that this whole province is completely covered with large and small, deep and not very craters of absolutely regular round shape. Because of the bushes and forest, they are not visible from the surface of the earth, but they are. People cannot see them entirely due to natural obstacles, and therefore no one living there suspects the wonders of the local relief.
  • Catfish
    Catfish April 12 2021 21: 26
    +1
    ... from those living there, no one suspects the wonders of the local relief.

    We suspect ... smile My Masha says that these are just dinosaurs who fell asleep for a while. smile
  • depressant
    depressant April 12 2021 21: 55
    +1
    Kostya, these are large vents up to 50 meters or more in diameter. And no one knows what it is: either traces of a meteorite attack, or features of soil erosion. Therefore, most likely your Masha is right - your granddaughter, right? )))
  • Catfish
    Catfish April 12 2021 21: 59
    +1
    Unfortunately, I have no granddaughters yet, only a son and a daughter. And Masha is my wife, a completely sober-minded person in life, but dinosaurs ... smile
  • depressant
    depressant April 12 2021 22: 22
    +1
    So this is great! ))))
    You are in luck with your spouse. In our time, it is very difficult to find a person with a worthy poetic imagination. We have gone far from the mysterious world of wild nature and fell right into the clutches of its vulgar, utilitarian use in the form of barbecue and other things.
  • Catfish
    Catfish April 12 2021 22: 29
    +1
    It would be a sin to argue. smile
  • Undecim
    Undecim April 12 2021 22: 11
    +3
    And around Kiev or somewhere nearby there is still a huge earthen rampart

    These are the Serpent's Shafts.

    Remains survived along the rivers Vita, Krasnaya, Stugna, Trubezh, Sula, Ros and further south of Kiev.
  • depressant
    depressant April 12 2021 22: 27
    +1
    Serpent's Shafts ... The name corresponds to the form. The view is mesmerizing. Monument to the ancestors. And it happens. I suppose there were also some kind of military installations - at one time, of course. Otherwise, the panting steppe dwellers would have overcome the shaft anyway. Maybe the horses didn’t overcome?
  • Undecim
    Undecim April 12 2021 22: 32
    +1
    Who built them, science has not yet established. There are Scythian, Slavic, Gothic theories. There is even a legend that it was Nikita Kozhemyaka who plowed the Serpent Gorynych.
    In addition to Kiev there are Zmievy Shafts of Volyn, Podillya.
  • depressant
    depressant April 12 2021 22: 37
    +1
    Dmitry Sillov's novel "The Evil City" describes in detail the defense scheme of Kozelsk. The city is surrounded on three sides by a river, the entrance is via a bridge, and not the side surrounded by water was really protected by something. Probably a shaft of trees, as you say. But I forgot this moment a little. This is my answer to Sergey's comment. And in response to your comment, Viktor Nikolaevich, I will say this: as a layman, I tend to the version about Kozhemyak)))
  • Korsar4
    Korsar4 April 13 2021 06: 18
    +1
    There is even a museum in the NP "Ugra" - "Kozelsk Zaseki".
  • Phil77
    Phil77 April 11 2021 16: 13
    +4
    * You Never Can Tell *!

    Great thing! fellow
  • Catfish
    Catfish April 11 2021 16: 23
    +3
    I agree. But Uma and John are also good. In general, the film is good. good
  • depressant
    depressant April 12 2021 09: 19
    +2
    And just imagine, back in the 90s I bought a cassette - the name was pinned, it must be read, and even criminal. I put it on my bandura, cool for those times (I still have it), and from the first frames I realized that the film was a masterpiece)))
  • Phil77
    Phil77 April 11 2021 16: 08
    +3
    Yes, you are right. Very similar. And how much does a paper book from this series cost now?
  • depressant
    depressant April 11 2021 16: 11
    +3
    As far as I know, even downloading new books in this series costs 299 rubles. I reread the available ones. And let Konstantin tell from books on paper.
  • Phil77
    Phil77 April 11 2021 16: 16
    +4
    And one of your acquaintances offered a certain lady a not bad site. And this lady very romantically accused him of obstinacy. The plot, however? bully laughing
    The main thing is not * denekh *!
  • depressant
    depressant April 11 2021 16: 28
    +3
    If you are for me, Seryozha, then the new items of the STALKER series on any of the sites are in an abbreviated version. Either 7 or 27 pages, and then the vulgar requirement of the dough comes out)))
    Writers want to eat! And I really understand them.
  • Phil77
    Phil77 April 11 2021 16: 31
    +4
    Ha, ha, ha! And again. Ha, ha, ha!
    What I suggested above such conventions. So go out in * PM *! bully
    If, if there is interest.
  • Obliterator
    Obliterator April 11 2021 22: 16
    +1
    Quote: depressant
    I am surprised that the audience did not fall asleep. Unless it was the only source of information about significant events.

    Interestingly, no one will fall asleep.
  • depressant
    depressant April 11 2021 22: 42
    +1
    You are right, colleague)))
    An interesting story evokes emotions, and when they are, you will not fall asleep - I did not take this factor into account.
  • Korsar4
    Korsar4 April 12 2021 04: 44
    +2
    No wonder they remembered Kukin yesterday. Okay.
  • Phil77
    Phil77 April 11 2021 14: 58
    +3
    Yes, yes, yes! Konstantin correctly noted, from a dark bowl can come out DIFFERENT. Greetings Lyudmila Yakovlevna! hi
    1. Phil77
      Phil77 April 11 2021 15: 01
      +3
      And after that, how did you not remember the song? And my version didn’t * ride *? Although the description is very similar to this particular performer. If you do not take into account the duration of the song. hi
    2. depressant
      depressant April 11 2021 15: 25
      +3
      Seryozha, good afternoon! )))

      In the reserved and dense scary Murom forests
      All evil spirits roam in a cloud and sows fear in the passers-by,
      Howl howling that your dead.
      If there are nightingales there, then robbers.


      I suppose you don't need to introduce the author? laughing
    3. depressant
      depressant April 11 2021 15: 34
      +3
      Seryozha, I hope, excuse my absent-mindedness))) I was looking for a performer on all sites - she is not there.
    4. Phil77
      Phil77 April 11 2021 15: 44
      +3
      If this is the one I thought about.

      And her * Only Time * really reminds all the beauty of the world. An amazingly wondrous composition!
    5. depressant
      depressant April 11 2021 15: 46
      +3
      I copied it, I'll check it now.
    6. Phil77
      Phil77 April 11 2021 16: 20
      +3
      By the way, Irish. She lives in her own castle. Well, she's just a beauty! In my opinion. good
    7. depressant
      depressant April 11 2021 16: 35
      +3
      Yes, I found it ... It's an old song, I know it. The voice is similar, but somewhat harsh in comparison with the voice of that and the duration is only 3 minutes.
      You see, in the early 2000s there was a radio that gave 0 information, solid music, and there was a night section. In it, I heard that miracle.
    8. Phil77
      Phil77 April 11 2021 16: 37
      +3
      Means no luck. request
  • Phil77
    Phil77 April 11 2021 16: 27
    +3
    You, Lyudmila Yakovlevna, I was very intrigued, insidious! I'm sitting now and wondering: she, isn't she? / Song / recourse
  • Phil77
    Phil77 April 11 2021 16: 18
    +3
    I know, I know, a certain Vysotsky. bully
  • depressant
    depressant April 11 2021 16: 43
    +3
    What does it mean - a certain? A worthy successor to the cause of the Celtic bards, who, judging by professional research, sang about the same thing, perhaps not with a guitar, but with the sound of a harp - the guitar had not yet been invented.
  • Phil77
    Phil77 April 11 2021 16: 48
    +2
    Some people like it, some don't. I'm indifferent. Excuse me, but with all possible directness.
  • depressant
    depressant April 11 2021 16: 40
    +3
    Do you want to say, Seryozha, that I came out of the thicket?!? In the context of the first phrase of your comment wassat
    The comment did not go under the desired one. This is me to your
    Yes, yes, yes! Konstantin correctly noted, from a dark bowl can come out DIFFERENT. Greetings Lyudmila Yakovlevna!
  • Phil77
    Phil77 April 11 2021 16: 46
    +5
    Where did you get this from?!? what
    Are you pushing me into bewilderment again? I mean that not only a chilled traveler can come out of the darkness to a lonely fire and a lonely person, but also something that does not need heating and other joys of life. Vo! And I was drawn into mysticism. How well we started, eh? Chuck Berry, Elvis Presley, Enya. Music. hi
  • depressant
    depressant April 11 2021 16: 49
    +4
    The druid can come out. Or Goblin. Or Baba YAGA. wassat ))))
  • Phil77
    Phil77 April 11 2021 16: 52
    +4
    So what am I talking about? As an option, dashing one-eyed! laughing
  • depressant
    depressant April 11 2021 17: 06
    +2
    And I always thought: what does it look like - Dashing One-Eyed? Now, with it in front of you, you can study portrait features. By the way, to the verses of someone who, apparently, in his work directly inherited the creative manner of the Celtic bards.

    Robert Burns The devil began to dance with the violin

    The devil began to dance with the violin
    And drove the excise man to hell,
    And everyone shouted: - Good hour!
    He will not come back again!

    We brew the best beer
    And we drink, celebrating funeral feast.
    Thank you damn dear devil -
    Excise tax will not come to us!

    We have different dances
    In the mountains of my homeland
    But the best dance, goddamn dance
    Danced in hell excise!


    Source: https://poemata.ru/poets/berns-robert/so-skripkoy-chert-pustilsya-v-plyas/
  • Phil77
    Phil77 April 11 2021 19: 15
    +3
    Yes, you are always welcome. Here are some more options.


  • depressant
    depressant April 11 2021 19: 29
    +3
    Family. The ancestors of people with disabilities of this type were afraid. Apparently, they believed that the injury received was an intervention in the body, giving it special, unknown and even anti-natural properties. For example, eating people.
  • Phil77
    Phil77 April 11 2021 19: 37
    +3
    But actually .... but actually, what is not a topic for an article? What injuries did our ancestors (and if on a global scale) give a sacred character? Well, why not, I think an interesting historical material will turn out.
  • depressant
    depressant April 11 2021 20: 10
    +3
    I share! Kashchey is skinny to a skeletal state due to the inability to devote time to obtaining food - he will leave, the gold will be stolen. Baba Yaga - Bone leg, cripple. Dashing One-eyed is understandable, and alive because the resisting victim knocked out not both eyes in the scuffle, but one. And they are all hungry for little human beings. Baba, for example, was going to cook Ivashka.
    B-rrr! ... How, it must be, unpleasant from the knowledge that you can be eaten raw or even cooked.
    The cripples could not hunt because of their injury. The community did not make a discount, refused to feed, since, on the one hand, they themselves did not have enough, and on the other hand, gratuitousness would encourage careless, inept behavior during hunting, picking berries and mushrooms in the forest, just in everyday life, as well as the war with neighbors. Not strong minds themselves would begin to cripple and demand freebies. Is it cruel? May be.
    So the crippled had to eat what, through negligence, fell into the hands. Ivashki all sorts. Famously ate animals, if possible. Because of this - graters with Leshim.
    So, fabulous images are a reflection of social relations within the community.
  • Phil77
    Phil77 April 11 2021 20: 17
    +2
    Here you go! Something is definitely starting to emerge, and the last phrase is a masterpiece! laughing
    Will you take up the topic?
  • depressant
    depressant April 11 2021 20: 31
    +2
    Oh no, Seryozha! )))
    I am an eternal and die-hard reader. I am already morally destroyed in life, and if the anger of my colleagues, quite rightly poking my nose at this or that absurdity of the proposed text, is added to this, I will not be able to endure it, I will not have enough mental strength. Let Richard write, he's a multi-machine gunner))))
  • Phil77
    Phil77 April 11 2021 20: 54
    +2
    Well, no, and there is no trial. And what kind of collision we have with Konstantin turned out to be. He publishes young beauties, and I have quite a few miserable monsters flickering. Eh, not enough experience. recourse
  • depressant
    depressant April 11 2021 21: 00
    +2
    Several years will pass, and you, Seryozha, will publish young beauties, and Kostya - the faces of the saints and will fall into religious discourses. Time, you know, cannot be stopped)))
    When he comes, he reads what I wrote about him, and sends me the first number.
  • Phil77
    Phil77 April 11 2021 21: 13
    +2
    Will fall asleep. It will certainly fall asleep. And it will be right. The Battle Sea Cat is a sanctimonious?!?! This will not happen! laughing
  • depressant
    depressant April 11 2021 21: 51
    +2
    And he either did not notice, or proudly ignored wassat
  • Catfish
    Catfish April 11 2021 21: 03
    +4
    Something you and Seryoga have forgotten such a colorful personages as Lyagva Odikhmantievich.



    "... before the siege there were four: Kikimora, Aukalka, Spit-Poisonous and Criminal. Godzilla burned the wall between Aukalka and the Criminal, burst into the courtyard and went out to the defenders in the rear. However, he was a club, according to rumors, the hefty and stupidest He did not understand tactics and did not want to, and therefore, instead of concentrated blows to crush one tower after another, he rushed at all four at once, since there were just enough heads. sat, Solovey Odikhmant'evich and Lyagva Odikhmant'evich, with them - Dashing One-eyed, as well as the allied evil spirit Konchar, nicknamed Pimple. And Godzilla, of course, suffered through his stupidity and greed. "
    (S.trugatsky.! The Tale of the Troika ")
  • depressant
    depressant April 11 2021 21: 49
    +3
    "The Tale of the Troika", I remember, is about sophisticated bureaucratic evasiveness, or am I confusing something?)) I don't remember the host of monsters, but I believe that the ones mentioned are the realities of Russian folklore. Life in a traumatic, sharply continental climate with a long winter is the source of the gallery of monsters. Something like a poster on the phased provision of first aid to the victim, with a clear hint that you should not get into situations where you can be crippled. Unlucky ancestors. Although there are opinions that Russians are Celts, even if this is so, then we are Celts, degenerated in the snow into some other entity. The Western Celts lived in much more favorable conditions, which allows us to admit the absence of such Odikhmantievich Lyagvs in their mythology - I liked Lyagva! )))
  • Korsar4
    Korsar4 April 12 2021 04: 48
    +3
    “I am a breadwinner, or who?
    But if you don’t give me, look, I’ll drink the chisel! ” (from).
  • Richard
    Richard April 12 2021 03: 31
    +4
    Phil77 (Sergey): Yes, yes, yes! Konstantin correctly noticed, from a dark bowl MISCELLANEOUS can come out

    Good evening, Seryozha.
    Moose have this property. At night, sneak up from the taiga darkness to the fire to the smell of tobacco. I've seen it myself. If not frightened off, he can stand for a long time and gaze at the fire, his nostrils happy. They don't even pay attention to huskies. Khanty say they like the smell of tobacco
  • Phil77
    Phil77 April 12 2021 08: 16
    +3
    Good morning Dima!
    It remains to find out the reason for this * interest * in tobacco. laughing
  • depressant
    depressant April 12 2021 11: 49
    +3
    And then, you see, there was a moose guard. He did not go to the smell of tobacco, he went to the smell of smoke in general - both from tobacco and from burning twigs in the fire. To find out if the fire is spreading And if so, then the livestock should be given a signal to run away.
    When it comes to such a conversation, I always remember the vision of little Caleb from "The Sign" - about a fire that engulfed the Earth. How animals engulfed in fire rushed from the burning forest, how moose burned and roared against the background of a blinding flame.
  • Richard
    Richard April 12 2021 17: 33
    +2
    Seryozha hi
    Well, you asked me, my friend, a task, and it became interesting to me.
    Here is what I found:
    Moose, like many artiodactyls, for example, goats, do not have a gallbladder, so they get from the environment the bitterness they need for digestion, thus replacing the function of bile. In particular, nicotine contains quite a lot of necessary bitterness. They like to inhale smoke, exhaust fumes for the same purpose. There are known cases of artiodactyls eating abandoned cigarette butts.
  • Catfish
    Catfish April 12 2021 16: 01
    +2
    Hello Dima! hi
    And if this, and even with burning "headlights", crawl out to the fire? You can also get embarrassed with a rework. laughing
  • Richard
    Richard April 12 2021 17: 51
    +2
    Yes, easily. Especially if you accidentally stumble upon a moose with a calf. True, moose cows have no horns. But her eyes immediately fill with blood and protecting the calf, without hesitation, she rushes to everything that moves. And a blow of a hoof can easily kill a wolf
  • Paranoid50
    Paranoid50 April 11 2021 19: 02
    +6
    For this article, if we take the work of Helavisa, "Warrior of Heather" or "Highlander" are more suitable.
    1. Phil77
      Phil77 April 11 2021 19: 21
      +3
      * Highlander * - I liked it more! good Such energetic music, rhythmic, calling! Thank you! hi
      And the video sequence is good! * Braveheart *.
  • Krasnodar
    Krasnodar April 11 2021 10: 29
    +3
    Greetings, Constantine? What kind of machine gun? The FN stock is ovsky, but not so similar))
    1. Catfish
      Catfish April 11 2021 10: 45
      +4
      I myself could not figure it out, no matter how much I twisted and twisted I did not understand. It is very similar to the amateur performances of cinematic gunsmiths, where the people went out of their way without fish in order to give the weapon a "foreign" look. The film was released in 1988, and then it was rather poor in the cinematic arsenals, I saw it myself at Mosfilm, and at Dovzhenko it was probably much poorer.
      1. Krasnodar
        Krasnodar April 11 2021 10: 55
        +5
        That is, the RPR.
        Hand Machine Gun Props.
        1. Catfish
          Catfish April 11 2021 11: 02
          +4
          It looks like it. Maybe one of our specialists will try to figure it out, I, personally, have already passed. request
  • WHAT IS
    WHAT IS April 11 2021 05: 54
    +11
    Thanks Valery, now it remains to wait
    about the heroes of the Arthurian cycle and let's talk not only about this king, but also about some knights of the Round Table, about Merlin and two fairies - Morgan and the Lady of the Lake, Lady Vivienne. And then we'll talk about the Grail.

    Especially about the Grail it will be interesting to familiarize yourself with the author's version, because there are a lot of versions here, the more interesting.
  • Korsar4
    Korsar4 April 11 2021 06: 00
    +7
    I really like the version that the druids wrote down only especially important prayers. The rest was memorized: both the memory is trained, and the Word remains alive.

    I liked it very much, Valery.
    I will even write out about the liberating birch: so as not to forget.
    1. Catfish
      Catfish April 11 2021 06: 23
      +5
      Hello, Sergey! hi
      Poor birches, but everyone will be in wreaths and free. laughing drinks
      1. Korsar4
        Korsar4 April 11 2021 06: 26
        +7
        Hi Constantine!
        No, not all of them.

        Any slave had two sons who could become free: a confessor and a bard.
        1. Kote Pan Kokhanka
          Kote Pan Kokhanka April 11 2021 06: 50
          +6
          ... "A birch branch breaks the fetters from your feet."

          Uh-huh analogue of laurel and thorns! Considering that the rods were also made of birch, the place where the legs grow from must have suffered too! laughing
          1. Korsar4
            Korsar4 April 11 2021 07: 41
            +6
            This is another hypostasis.
            We have birch - the patroness of women.
            In Semik in the forest they were grooming. The birch's braids were curled.
            And then it turned into the Feast of the Trinity.
        2. Catfish
          Catfish April 11 2021 07: 16
          +7
          And daddy himself was in slaves and worked hard to the grave? And maman? Also in slaves? Not fair! Especially with regard to maman. repeat


          Freedom to Yuri Detochkin !!! fellow
          1. Korsar4
            Korsar4 April 11 2021 07: 42
            +6
            But what is the motivation to learn to read and write.
            1. Catfish
              Catfish April 11 2021 08: 00
              +5
              Well, they only ate ... smile
              1. Korsar4
                Korsar4 April 11 2021 08: 16
                +5
                Strong emotions are well imprinted.
                1. Catfish
                  Catfish April 11 2021 08: 21
                  +5
                  Sometimes even on the face. laughing
                  1. Korsar4
                    Korsar4 April 11 2021 08: 23
                    +5
                    Just about: you learn to read and write, maybe sometimes you learn to be silent.
                    1. Catfish
                      Catfish April 11 2021 08: 34
                      +6
                      That's right, for some reason we don't like literate people, right on the same level with Muscovites. "The rotten intelligentsia", "And I also put on a hat", "The bespectacled nerd", etc.
                      1. Korsar4
                        Korsar4 April 11 2021 08: 39
                        +5
                        It's easier for people to be in their pack. This is especially noticeable at school.
                      2. Catfish
                        Catfish April 11 2021 08: 43
                        +6
                        Yes, the black sheep, as a rule, is hated.
                      3. Korsar4
                        Korsar4 April 11 2021 08: 44
                        +5
                        The Ugly Duckling is a genius tale.
                      4. Catfish
                        Catfish April 11 2021 08: 53
                        +4
                        I agree. But many people take it literally.
                      5. Korsar4
                        Korsar4 April 11 2021 08: 59
                        +4
                        There are many layers in any serious work.
                      6. Catfish
                        Catfish April 11 2021 09: 12
                        +8
                        A little illustration.
                      7. Korsar4
                        Korsar4 April 11 2021 11: 45
                        +3
                        Clip thinking is on the doorstep.
          2. 3x3zsave
            3x3zsave April 11 2021 09: 46
            +5
            What a lack of spirituality! laughing
          3. Catfish
            Catfish April 11 2021 09: 48
            +6
            Frequently asked questions, all of you are like that, you don't respect a working person, teligents are worn out. am
          4. Richard
            Richard April 11 2021 13: 13
            +5
            For some reason, we do not like literate people, right on the same level with Muscovites. "The rotten intelligentsia", "And I also put on a hat", "The bespectacled nerd", etc.

            it has been customary since the days of the black hundred
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      3. Catfish
        Catfish April 11 2021 13: 13
        +2
        Luxurious document. laughing We neigh with all the personnel, including the cat! good
  • Richard
    Richard April 11 2021 06: 06
    +12
    It was the gays that caused the death of Ireland's greatest hero, Cuchulainn. On the eve of the battle in which he died, he was offered dog meat cooked on the sidelines.

    He apparently considered himself immortal, since he decided to have a snack at a roadside kiosk with shawarma smile
    1. Korsar4
      Korsar4 April 11 2021 06: 28
      +6
      We are obviously tougher. And they did not receive such geis.
      And Samhain passes by us more calmly.
    2. 3x3zsave
      3x3zsave April 11 2021 07: 36
      +7
      "Buy three shawarmas - collect a dog!"
  • Richard
    Richard April 11 2021 06: 22
    +8
    Druids (Gaulish druidae, Old Irish druí, plural druid) - priests among the ancient Celtic peoples, organized in the form of a closed, but not hereditary class; also served as judges, practiced medicine and astronomy.
    The word "druid" comes from the combination of two or more Celtic words dru-vid-es, meaning "knowledge" and "oak" or "one who knows the oak."
    Druids were not just priests - priests in Celtic society, but also performed many other important social functions, in particular they were:
    -healers, since they knew very well various medicinal plants and minerals,
    - judges, resolving disputes between ordinary members of the community,
    - teachers for those who were going to become a druid themselves in the future,
    - historians, or rather keepers of ancient customs, legends, legends, stories about the past. All information was transmitted orally, so druids had to have a very good memory.
    Among the Irish and Britons, the Druids early lost their function of poets (giving way to the bards), and after the introduction of Christianity (IV-V centuries) they quickly degenerated into village healers
    1. Korsar4
      Korsar4 April 11 2021 06: 29
      +7
      I wonder what they had in mind. Every druid is a little Homer.
      1. depressant
        depressant April 11 2021 14: 13
        +3
        There was a talk about birch above, but for now, yes, yes, while I turned on ...
        So, as for the birch, the twigs of which were the hallmark of young druids and bards.
        The Celts created "arboreal" astrology, in which the Sun was identified with the birch.
        In the Celtic horoscope, each "tree" corresponds to an astrological symbol, which in a condensed form preserves the memory of the people.

        Celtic lunar zodiac:

        Birch: December 24 - January 20
        Rowan: January 21 - February 17
        Ash: February 18 - March 17
        Alder: March 18 - April 14
        Willow: April 15 - May 12
        Hawthorn: May 13 - June 9
        Oak: June 10 - July 7
        Holly: July 8 - August 4
        Hazel: August 4 - September 1
        Grapes: September 2 - September 29
        Ivy: September 30 - October 27
        Reed: October 28 - November 24
        Elderberry: November 25 - December 23

        It is believed that the Nameless Day is present in the zodiac. It is located between Bereza and Elderberry, dividing the endlessly repeating cycles of birth and death. The Celts also associated with birch a permanent character in all Celtic myths, symbolizing the seven-month reign of the sun gods - the White Deer.

        For some reason, the elder is a mystery to researchers. Isn't this the one that grows in the garden?)))
        And I would like to especially note the presence of grapes in the horoscope. We have a different climate, not the same ... Although not so long ago I happened to read that they are already trying to grow grapes in the Moscow region.
        1. Korsar4
          Korsar4 April 11 2021 20: 58
          +3
          There is a black elderberry and a red elderberry. And many others.

          There are many types of grapes.
          Now it is getting warmer, and different varieties have already begun to be grown in the Moscow region.

          And the Far Eastern ones have been growing for a long time.
          In Voronezh, grapes are almost like a weed.
          1. depressant
            depressant April 11 2021 21: 30
            +2
            Imagine, Sergei, as a child, when my father served in the Far East, I wandered around the military settlement and among the low oak groves teeming with mushrooms, I found wild vines and ate blue grapes. It is small and seemed unusually tasty to me. And the Voronezh grapes are a revelation for me. Hear it for the first time )))
            1. Korsar4
              Korsar4 April 11 2021 22: 26
              +2
              The Far East is generally a separate world. Moreover, Sakhalin has its own. In the Primorsky Territory - its own. In Khabarovsk - its own.
              Among the lianas, actinidia are amazing.

              The undergrowth is amazingly rich.

              But the strongest impression is still the old-growth larch trees.
              And how many have not yet been covered.
  • Van 16
    Van 16 April 11 2021 06: 33
    +7
    A wonderful cycle, read in one breath, everything is very interesting and tasty, many thanks to Valery!
  • Richard
    Richard April 11 2021 06: 35
    +7
    Almost all information about the Druids comes from the "Notes on the Gallic War" and other Greco-Roman writings of the XNUMXth century. BC e. - II century. n. e.
    There are various hypotheses about the origin of the Druids. In the theory of three functions by J. Dumézil, the Druids are regarded as a relic of the priestly class of Proto-Indo-European society, like the ancient Indian Brahmans. According to another version, the institution of the Druids was borrowed by the island Celts from the pre-Indo-European population of northwestern Europe. Robert McAlister and several other scholars of the early XNUMXth century attributed the creation of Ogamic writing to the Druids.
    Most of the surviving monuments with Ogamic inscriptions date back to the XNUMXth-XNUMXth centuries. n. e.; it was widespread in Ireland and Britain. Most scientists agree that the ogam arose under the influence of some other alphabet: most often the source is called the Latin alphabet, which is widespread in Roman Britain, and the Germanic Futhark (they speak for it, in particular, the presence of letters for the sounds [h] and [z], inherent in Germanic languages, but absent in Old Irish). The creation of the Ogam should probably be dated back to the XNUMXth century AD e., since the linguistic characteristics of the earliest inscriptions make it possible to date them to this particular time. So, in ogama there is a letter that apparently meant the labiovelar sound [gw] (it is not attested in the inscriptions, but it was clearly present in ogama from the beginning). This sound coincided in Old Irish with [g], but it is reconstructed on the basis of correspondences like Old Irish. guidid: wall. gweddi "to pray" (although usually Welsh gw- corresponds to Irish f-).
    In the Irish saga "Education in the House of Two Cups," the sorcerer Manannan turns his son against his father, offering to speak to the latter:
    "And tell him not to return to the house that he will leave until he is again one ogam and ahu, earth and sky, sun and moon."

    What is "ahu" is not known for certain. The Czech grammatologist C. Loukotka mentions that the Irish called not only the letter itself, but also the ritual stone that was placed in the heads of the deceased. Ogamic writings are just applied to such gravestones.
    a photo Celtic gravestones with orgamic runes. Ireland




    The Celtic orgamic alphabet has now been deciphered and the inscriptions on it are to be read.
    rice... Celtic Orgamic Alphabet


  • Astra wild2
    Astra wild2 April 11 2021 06: 39
    +5
    Good morning. Everyone.
    I decided to fix it: first I say hello, and then according to the text
  • Richard
    Richard April 11 2021 06: 43
    +7
    It is unclear today if the Druids had any kind of internal hierarchy. According to Julius Caesar's records, in Gaul, for example, the chief priest was elected for life. In addition, there was a student / teacher separation, and in order to become a druid, a young man had to spend 20 years of his life studying, which, by the way, took place orally. Knowledge was not written down, but was specially passed on from mouth to mouth in order to prevent the uninitiated from accessing this knowledge.
    1. Richard
      Richard April 11 2021 06: 50
      +8
      Also in the records of Julius Caesar, special horned priestly "helmets" of the Druids are mentioned - (corniger galeas de Celtic magus sacerdotes)
      link: Julius Caesar "Notes on the Gallic War"
      Photo: Celtic bronze "Waterloo helmet", made in the XNUMXnd-XNUMXst century BC.

      An example of the ceremonial horned helmet of the Celtic culture. Such headdresses were not suitable for battle, but were used only in ritual processions or parades. The Waterloo Helmet was found in 1868 in the River Thames near Waterloo Bridge, England. This is the only instance of the Iron Age horned helmet found in Europe.
    2. Operator
      Operator April 11 2021 08: 27
      0
      The Celts adopted the tradition of exclusively oral transmission of knowledge from the Black Sea Aryans, who migrated at the end of the second millennium BC. in the area of ​​present-day Austria, which became the center of the spread of Hallstatt culture in Western Europe.
    3. Astra wild2
      Astra wild2 April 11 2021 12: 11
      0
      "knowledge was not written down, but passed from mouth to mouth," but did the Celts have a written language? Perhaps due to the lack of writing, they did not keep records?
      And another question: how much can you trust Julius Caesar. After all, the Celts were enemies of the Romans and Caesar could "slightly" tone down the description of rituals that were not familiar to him.
      Could this be? I believe that this is quite plausible, and even without a conscious desire to denigrate the Celts, but out of charity to the savages. After all, from the point of view of the Romans - savages
      1. 3x3zsave
        3x3zsave April 11 2021 13: 37
        +4
        and Caesar could "slightly" tone down the description of rituals not familiar to him.
        Could this be?

        No, it couldn't. You just don't understand the psychology of these people.
        1. Astra wild2
          Astra wild2 April 11 2021 19: 57
          +2
          My poet, I do not assert anything, but I argue.
          “You don’t understand the psychology of these people,” which ones: druids? Naturally, how can modern man penetrate the thoughts of the Druids? You too can ONLY SUPPOSE.
          Can you swear that Caesar was impartial?
      2. Phil77
        Phil77 April 11 2021 17: 01
        +2
        Why shouldn't she be? lol

      3. Richard
        Richard April 11 2021 17: 25
        +2
        And another question: how much can you trust Julius Caesar. After all, the Celts were enemies of the Romans and Caesar could "slightly" tone down the description of rituals that were not familiar to him.

        Gaius Julius was, like his famous cousin Quintus Sertorius, nephews and students of Gaius Marius, and intelligence was treated properly
        1. Astra wild2
          Astra wild2 April 11 2021 20: 00
          +2
          And Guy Mari is a druid himself. Joke
          1. Richard
            Richard April 12 2021 18: 11
            +2
            Guy Mari is not.
            But his native nephew Quintus Sertorius - yes.
            And it's not a joke. On the instructions of Maria, he lived incognito among the Gauls as a simple warrior for more than a year and even was a member of the tribal council. Had a Celtic wife and twin children from her
            He returned to Rome when he learned about the intentions of the Germans to go to Rome on the eve of the Battle of Aqua Sextius in 102 BC. e.
            For this Sertorius received the highest military award of Rome - corona graminea
            1. Astra wild2
              Astra wild2 April 13 2021 08: 49
              +1
              From this fact, you can write a historical novel.
              1. Richard
                Richard April 13 2021 12: 09
                +2
                Vera, so it has already been written, and not alone.
                I recommend that you pay attention to Colin McCullough's novel "The Lords of Rome. The First Man in Rome." She is not only the author of the world-famous bestseller Singing in the Thorns, but also one of the leading Australian experts on the history of Rome during the era of Guy Maria
                Offhand from Wiki:
                Colin McCullough books in the "Lords of Rome" series (Roman series):
                1. The first man in Rome (1990) - about the first successes of Mary and Sulla during the war with Yugurtha, about the invasion of the Cimbri and the conspiracy of Saturninus (110-100 BC). The main character of the book is the great Roman commander Guy Marius. During one of the campaigns, he meets with a seer, who predicts to him that he will be elected consul seven times, as well as that he will be surpassed by his wife's nephew (this will be Gaius Julius Caesar).
                2. A crown of herbs (Battle of Rome) (1991) - about the Allied war of Rome and the struggle of Sulla with Mary (98-86 BC). The book ends with the death of Guy Maria.
                3. Favorites of Fortune (1993) - about the formation in the political arena of Caesar, Pompey, the dictatorship of Sulla, the struggle of Quintus Sertorius Tacticus with Sulla and Gnei Pompey and the uprising of Spartacus (83-69 BC).
                4. Women of Caesar (1996) - about the rise of Pompey, the first consulate of Caesar and the death of Crassus (68-58 BC).
                By the will of fate (Caesar) (1997) - about the war with the Gauls and the struggle between Pompey and Caesar (54-48 BC).
                5. The fall of the titan, or the October horse (2002) - about Caesar's victory over the republicans, receiving him a life-long dictatorship and his murder, the formation of Octavian; the creation of the triumvirate of Octavian, 6. Anthony and Lepidus, the struggle of the triumvirs against Brutus and Cassius (48-42 BC).
                Antony and Cleopatra (2007) - the love story of Antony and Cleopatra. Octavian's victory over Antony. Death of Antony and Cleopatra (41-27 BC).
                1. Astra wild2
                  Astra wild2 April 13 2021 20: 25
                  +1
                  It is necessary to search the Internet. In my youth I read: "The life of the twelve Caesars" and almost nothing else about them. so in passing some detail about Julia Caesar or Nero or Augustus, but deliberately nothing
  • 3x3zsave
    3x3zsave April 11 2021 06: 56
    +4
    Between 1136-1148 Bishop Galfried of Monmouth by order of the English king Henry II
    There is some mistake here. Henry II was crowned the English throne in 1154. During this period, Stephen of Blues was the king of England.
    Thank you, Valery!
  • Richard
    Richard April 11 2021 06: 56
    +7
    Julius Caesar (100-44 BC) in his work "Notes on the Gallic War" noted:
    “Druids take an active part in the worship of God, observe the correctness of public sacrifices, interpret all questions related to religion; many young people come to them to study the sciences, and in general they enjoy great honor among the Gauls ”(VI: 13). Celtic priests have a monopoly on religious ceremonies, so anyone who refuses to comply with their demands runs the risk of being excommunicated from the rituals. Such a person would become "wicked" and "outsiders." A taboo (geissi or geis) or a spell can be imposed on him. For example, the most innocuous form of taboo is refusal to eat a certain type of meat, but if the geissi were not observed, the Celts believe that the guilty person or his relatives will soon die or they will suffer misfortune.
    Druids are also engaged in the preparation of potions, with the help of which they believe they can strengthen their taboos and spells.

    Photo Shoot: Detail of the Gundestrup cauldron, a silver vessel depicting Celtic gods. Dates back to the 1891st century BC. Found in Denmark in XNUMX, but most likely made in the Balkans. Hidden in the National Museum of Denmark
    1. Richard
      Richard April 11 2021 07: 01
      +5
      The ancient Roman author Pliny the Elder (23-79 AD) wrote in his Natural History:
      “For the druids, there was nothing more sacred than the mistletoe and the tree that carried it, the Sacred Oak…. Two white bulls were led under the tree, and a white-clad druid climbed the oak and threw the chopped mistletoe onto a white handkerchief. Finally, they sacrificed, hoping to set the deity mercifully, since they believed that a drink with mistletoe gives man and animals fertility and resistance against any poison ”(XVI: 95). Pliny explains that the time of the rituals and the collection of mistletoe was very important for the Druids, the collection of the sacred plant was carried out strictly on certain days of the calendar: “... The mistletoe is plucked, if possible, on the sixth day of the moon (for with the moons they calculate their months and years, as well as their centuries of thirty years). They choose this day because the moon is already having a significant influence, although it has not yet reached half its way ”(XVI: 249).
      1. Korsar4
        Korsar4 April 11 2021 08: 04
        +6
        They had serious observations of cyclicality. And special attention was paid to the days of the equinox and solstice. And a personal day is provided for the oak - on the Spring Equinox.
  • Free wind
    Free wind April 11 2021 07: 07
    +4
    He always avoided these all sorts of bards, with their howls about the dastardly rubbish that they tied a novice murderer, and his mummy knitted a sweater. And it turns out there it is. For the first time I hear about it, live a century, learn a century and die a fool.
    1. Korsar4
      Korsar4 April 11 2021 08: 24
      +9
      The Russian version of the chanson was hardly popular with the Celts.
    2. Trilobite Master
      Trilobite Master April 11 2021 13: 33
      +6
      Quote: Free Wind
      Always stayed away from all these bards

      And I have always separated bard music and blatnyak. And not by authors, but by genres. The same authors could write in both genres.
      Bards for me are Vizbor, Mityaev, Okudzhava, etc. Vysotsky is a separate person in this regard - his early work smelled like a thug, but still for me he is more of a bard.
      And I hate a thug, just a persistent gag reflex. I know very well how they nail their own mothers, taking away pensions in order to drink with friends, not to mention strangers.
      1. 3x3zsave
        3x3zsave April 11 2021 13: 51
        +3
        And I have always separated bard music and blatnyak.
        Well, something like this. The "youngsters" are usually very surprised that Joe Dassin is also a "chanson".
        1. Trilobite Master
          Trilobite Master April 11 2021 13: 57
          +5
          The bard song is also a chanson.
          And a thug is a thug. Rough with a cult of violence and profit, or mournful in the style of "we have something for what", disgusting burdensome, primitive, both in text and in sound.
          1. 3x3zsave
            3x3zsave April 11 2021 14: 15
            +1
            But for some reason, the burdensome "Vladimir Central" clings more strongly than the swaggering "Opera" ...
            1. Trilobite Master
              Trilobite Master April 11 2021 15: 26
              +3
              Neither one nor the other clings.
              By the way, I don't know a single normal song about cops. Do not count as such "Our service is both dangerous and difficult." smile
              In the USSR they wrote insincerely, but in Russia the police, and now the police have quickly turned into a kind of closed joint-stock company with the corresponding ideals and the main goal in the form of making a profit from their official position.
              It is difficult to write songs about such a militia or police.
          2. Astra wild2
            Astra wild2 April 11 2021 20: 15
            +1
            I didn’t go to school yet and heard: “when I was a boy, I wore a straw hat, flared trousers * and for some reason I imagined a huge cancer in a sombrero
      2. 3x3zsave
        3x3zsave April 11 2021 13: 55
        +2
        his early work smelled like a thug,
        And how the creativity of Rosenbaum gave!
        But about St. Petersburg: either good, or not at all. laughing
        1. Trilobite Master
          Trilobite Master April 11 2021 14: 01
          +1
          Apparently, I am not familiar with the early work of Rosenbaum. For me, it began with "Sadness Came" and "Waltz-Boston".
          Except that "Duck Hunt" can be called conditionally, with reservations and assumptions, like a rogue ... I'm not sure.
          1. 3x3zsave
            3x3zsave April 11 2021 14: 08
            +3
            Oops!
            "Gop-stop! We came from around the corner" (C)
            In the work of Rosenbaum there is a cycle dedicated to thieves "romance", albeit mainly with an Odessa accent.
            1. Trilobite Master
              Trilobite Master April 11 2021 15: 16
              +4
              "Gop-stop" is a "folk" song. Like "From the Odessa kichman" ...
              I think, in fact, everything is simple here. At a certain period of time in Russia, only people of certain circles could pay well for performances, but in order to pay really well, the repertoire had to be adjusted.
              This is not a creative impulse, but just a tribute to the conjuncture against the background of a desire to earn more. "He who pays calls the tune" - and nothing else. smile
      3. Korsar4
        Korsar4 April 11 2021 21: 12
        +2
        And now - Sergeev with his "Bell", Gorodnitsky.

        Again, remember Kukin.
  • Richard
    Richard April 11 2021 07: 18
    +8
    Thank you, Valery. I liked the article very much.
    The only caveat. You write:
    Now let's continue this story and talk about the culture of the Celts.

    And not sllllov about their rituals and culture of burial and burial. And that would be very interesting. I hope you will tell us about this in the next chapters of your cycle.
    Thanks in advance
    1. Richard
      Richard April 11 2021 07: 20
      +5
      I'm sorry friends
      Fucking "l" key. Constantly sticks.
  • Free wind
    Free wind April 11 2021 07: 18
    +5
    Mistletoe grows on trees; to collect it, you need to climb a tree, and not fiddle with a beard looking at the Supreme. The leaves on the wreath are clearly not oak. Does the druid hold a grate from the stove in his hand, or a shredder for cabbage? Nearby two wheels are lying, judging by the tread, all-season.
    1. Korsar4
      Korsar4 April 11 2021 08: 06
      +6
      The leaves are not pedunculate oak. Theoretically, it can be assumed that this is a different type of oak. Although, most likely, questions are for the artist.
  • riwas
    riwas April 11 2021 07: 41
    +7
    Not only druids worshiped trees, but also the ancient Slavs.
    My paternal grandmother Anna Fedorovna was engaged in healing. My grandmother was a deeply religious person. Everyone who was younger than her was called children. She had an interesting worldview. It should be noted that with all this, my grandmother was a very pragmatic person who lived a life full of hardships.
    My grandmother treated with herbs (as far as I remember - the entire attic of her house was always hung with them) and conspiracies. I asked her - you dictate, and I will write it down. She laughed and explained: not only words are important, but intonation (grandmother spoke as she sang), spiritual state. You have to believe in this. Have spiritual strength. Give your all helping people. For example, a conspiracy of water. It doesn't matter who does it: a healer according to his own scenario or a priest according to Christian canons - the essence is the same. If a priest, lighting (speaking) water, does not believe, does not have spiritual strength, fits formally, then there will be no sense from such water.

    Here is her point of view on the subject of sacred trees.
    Not every tree is suitable for rituals.
    There are places on earth where the underground "natural aura" (the grandmother did not know the word aura, but the meaning of her words was just that) comes close to the surface of the earth and comes into contact with the roots of trees (with the aura of trees), which can be positive or negative ... With positive - trees grow large and tall, sharply standing out as "islands" in the total mass of trees, and negative - "twisted" or, in the worst case, nothing grows at all. Trees "associated" with a positive underground "natural aura" are suitable for connecting the human aura to the underground "natural aura".
  • Van 16
    Van 16 April 11 2021 07: 56
    +7
    "Ireland has its own epic tales"

    At one time, the sagas "Fight of Cú Chulainn with Ferdiad" were most remembered (apparently because of his gloomy atmosphere and a horned spear, which Cúchulainn threw with two toes) and about Dark Patrick (because of his resourcefulness and wit)
  • Operator
    Operator April 11 2021 08: 04
    +1
    All peoples of Western Europe, with the exception of the Scandinavians, are biologically Celtic, not just Scots, Welsh, Irish and Bretons.

    Another thing is that the rest of the Celts were assimilated culturally and linguistically by the Romans (most Italians, Spaniards, French and Belgians) and Scandinavians (British, Germans, Austrians and Dutch).
  • 3x3zsave
    3x3zsave April 11 2021 08: 14
    +6
    Already in 1155, the monk Weiss of Jersey translated the works of Galfrid into French.
    Valery, do you mean "Roman de Brut"?
    1. VLR
      April 11 2021 09: 18
      +6
      Yes, he is also known by this name
      1. 3x3zsave
        3x3zsave April 11 2021 12: 52
        +2
        It seems to me that "Roman de Roe", by his own authorship, is more significant for the study of history. Although, it has nothing to do with the current topic.
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  • Astra wild2
    Astra wild2 April 11 2021 08: 51
    +3
    "The number of film adaptations is difficult to count" Valery, please name: the most successful, from your point of view
    1. VLR
      April 11 2021 09: 17
      +6
      Three of the prize-winning festivals are not bad.
      1. Richard
        Richard April 12 2021 04: 17
        +3
        Two hundred comments! And one is better than the other! Here's an article for the weekend! Moreover, the Author promises a sequel!
        Valery, thank you very much!
  • kalibr
    kalibr April 11 2021 09: 13
    +6
    Very interesting, well, just very interesting material!
    1. VLR
      April 11 2021 09: 23
      +5
      Many thanks. The next two articles will be, I think, even more interesting. This article is a kind of preface to them.
      1. Astra wild2
        Astra wild2 April 11 2021 11: 38
        +1
        We are already waiting in advance. Tomorrow I will reread with my friends
        1. 3x3zsave
          3x3zsave April 11 2021 12: 34
          +3
          I feel that you, My Fair Stranger, are just the "mouthpiece of the times" for your friends!
          1. Astra wild2
            Astra wild2 April 11 2021 20: 24
            +2
            My mother taught me to share, and not to be a nasty toad.
            I don’t know about you, but if we work together, we certainly have extraneous conversations. Are you annoying about rags, about politics? Young people are indifferent to what is sacred to me, and so there are topics for conversation. And these topics are close to us
          2. Richard
            Richard April 12 2021 06: 11
            +2
            You, My Fair Stranger, are the "mouthpiece of the times" for your friends!

            Exactly noticed. Just like on the old Soviet agitation
            1. Phil77
              Phil77 April 12 2021 08: 21
              +3
              Or like this.
              To read articles VO-by appointment!
  • depressant
    depressant April 11 2021 14: 42
    +2
    The only country that positions itself as a direct heir to the ancient Celts is Ireland. Her coat of arms is the bard's harp. All symbols and seals of Ireland contain the image of the harp.
  • Undecim
    Undecim April 11 2021 17: 51
    +2
    The keepers of mythical and ancestral heroic legends all this time were pagan priests, called bards. And the druids were the highest caste of bards, their authority was incredibly high, among the people they were revered above kings.
    The author got lost a little, as usual, he fell into fiction. Druids were not the highest caste of bards. Bards were the lowest caste of poets. These felids were the highest of the four degrees of bards. And about them, as well as about the Irish Highlands - from the author - not a word.
    In a word, as usual with Valery - entertaining, exciting, approximately. Historical novel. Even Amergin Gluingel remained behind the scenes.
    1. Astra wild2
      Astra wild2 April 11 2021 20: 26
      +2
      Viktor Nikolaevich as usual with a fly in the ointment
  • vladcub
    vladcub April 11 2021 18: 47
    +2
    "The Irish have managed to preserve the most complete and integral Celtic epic", perhaps because they have long been apart? By isolation, protected from alien influences?
  • faterdom
    faterdom April 11 2021 18: 49
    +2
    Once every three years, in the presence of the king and the heads of the clan clans, as well as numerous spectators, the bards who came to the competition in turn sang the songs they had composed. The winner sat on a gilded chair, he was declared the country's chief bard and the bard enthroned. After that, the royal judge handed him a silver harp. In the next three years, it was he who evaluated the poetry of other bards, and received double payment for his songs.

    Something I remember Kirkorov-sugary in place of the chairman of the selection for "Eurovision" and Manizha as the Chief Bard of All Russia ...
    For a couple of thousand years, a clear degradation, albeit at a new technological level, through Chinese or Korean screens.
    But the legends about Arthur and other Lancelot were just fabulously lucky that they were popularized by the most literate and learned people of their time. As a result, for almost a thousand years, every self-respecting princess read parchment / paper about Lancelot to holes, and Arthur's example instilled at least a little chivalry and nobility in most Western kings, people often rude, cynical and deceitful.
  • faterdom
    faterdom April 11 2021 18: 52
    +4
    Quote: Trilobite Master
    By the way, I don’t know a single normal song about cops.

    "Stay the day you are in police clothing - life will seem to you the other way round ..." V.S. Vysotsky
    "The cop and the wife don't have ..." Lube.
    1. Korsar4
      Korsar4 April 11 2021 21: 15
      +3
      Mityaev.

      “I drank with the local police officer.
      And I look: summer.
      And summer is a small life ”(c).
    2. Darkness
      Darkness April 17 2021 17: 55
      0
      Yeah; and there is no wife, definitely kclas .... sarcasm.
  • Darkness
    Darkness April 17 2021 17: 51
    0
    Best definitely !!!! And not about the war ...