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American press: the USA stopped winning wars

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The United States, arguably the militarily strongest state, is leaving Iraq today and is unable to influence the situation in Afghanistan. There are many reasons for this, but one of the main ones is the actions of American politicians.


This is how the American expert Lawrence Korb argues in his article published by the National Review magazine. In it, the author discusses an article by another colleague, Bing West, published by the same publication, and tries to find out why the United States stopped winning wars.

Both experts are well versed in the matter, because they have a relationship in military service. In addition, each of them had a chance to visit Vietnam, Afghanistan and Iraq, where the United States turned out to be the losers in wars. Moreover, American experts themselves say that Washington lost in the Iraqi and Afghan wars. It is noted that in Afghanistan, terrorists still control vast territories, and Washington is forced to make concessions to them and look for ways to withdraw troops. Although at one time, in the same situation, the States declared the USSR the defeated.

West believes that one of the main reasons for the defeat of the United States in the Vietnam War lies in the fact that it began on a far-fetched occasion. America launched hostilities in Indochina in response to an alleged North Vietnamese attack on a US Navy ship in the Gulf of Tonkin. The same was done later with Iraq, falsely accusing it of developing weapons mass destruction. These weapons, by the way, were never found. And the country lies in ruins. A strange "victory", if you can call it that. But there is control over Iraqi oil, which, apparently, was the main target of the attack. But the proceeds from the sale of this oil do not go to the US budget at all, but are distributed between American business tycoons and, in fact, their private military companies.

The American press also writes that in the wars in Vietnam, Iraq and Afghanistan, the US armed forces had no chance of winning.

Having unleashed the Vietnam War, US politicians did not take into account the lesson that the French learned in that country in 1954. In addition, a powerful anti-war movement in the United States itself had a huge impact on the American authorities, forcing them to withdraw their troops.

In Iraq, too, everything was predetermined, but for a different reason. Even before the introduction of American troops, Washington concluded an agreement with Iraq that the military contingent would leave the country in 2011. True, then everything dragged on, but even after such a long time, the US army, supposedly the strongest in the world, is still suffering senseless losses.

In Afghanistan, the United States could do something if it could change this country. But they did not have the slightest chance to do this. Therefore, the contingent there is simply engaged in self-defense there and is able to control only its bases, which are somewhat reminiscent of besieged fortresses.

Lawrence Korb makes a disappointing conclusion for American politicians and the military. He believes that the US military has long been unable to "spread democracy" around the world. Is there this democracy in the United States itself? What's left of her? ..
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  1. Grandfather
    Grandfather 24 March 2021 09: 35
    +36
    American press: the USA stopped winning wars
    never won.
    1. Vladimir_2U
      Vladimir_2U 24 March 2021 09: 38
      +10
      Quote: Dead Day
      American press: the USA stopped winning wars

      Even in the American press! laughing laughing
      1. marchcat
        marchcat 24 March 2021 09: 42
        +13
        All their victories are the US military budget ....
        1. KAV
          KAV 24 March 2021 11: 55
          +6
          Ahhahaha! Have ceased win? And what, once you won ?? Even and didn't start!
          1. Alex777
            Alex777 24 March 2021 13: 03
            +4
            We won with Japan.
            Looking at the nuclear bombing, the Japanese are their allies now. hi
            It is clear that the USSR also participated, but they carried out the post-war settlement very successfully for themselves.
          2. Grits
            Grits 25 March 2021 03: 11
            0
            Quote: KAV
            Ahhahaha! Have you stopped winning? And what, once you won ?? Didn't even start!

            But what about the victory over Grenada?
      2. frruc
        frruc 24 March 2021 10: 38
        +12
        It is interesting to know in what such battles and military battles the American military machine distinguished itself. Is that, from above, they dropped an atomic bomb on Japan and also in Hollywood films.
      3. dSK
        dSK 24 March 2021 11: 30
        +9
        Despite the vaunted medicine, the States are world leaders in the "crown". And this is just the beginning, the more they propagandize LGBT people, the sooner they will call on their heads. "Sodom and Gomoru"... Moral decay has ruined more than one empire ...
      4. Kaman
        Kaman 24 March 2021 11: 32
        -2
        Endlessly connected USA there is no democracy, it exists in Belarus and North Korea
      5. Vladimir Mashkov
        Vladimir Mashkov 24 March 2021 13: 03
        +2
        I don’t even remember America’s victories after World War II. But then they destroyed and destroyed a lot of things from then until now. But is it a victory?
        1. cat Rusich
          cat Rusich 24 March 2021 23: 33
          +3
          Quote: Vladimir Mashkov
          I don’t even remember America’s victories after World War II. ?
          Operation "Urgent Fury" October 25-27, 1983 - invasion of Grenada - We won because capitalism, not communism, is in Grenada today.
          Operation Just Cause December 20, 1989 - January 31, 1990 - Invasion of Panama.
          Gulf War August 2, 1990 - February 28, 1991 - Invasion of Iraq, the first war against Saddam Hussein ...
          Operation "Allied Force" March 24 - June 10, 1999 - the bombing of Yugoslavia - in fact, tore off Kosovo from Serbia ... Yugoslavia collapsed, Montenegro became NATO.
          1. Vladimir Mashkov
            Vladimir Mashkov 25 March 2021 11: 17
            +1
            Oh yes, epic victories! Especially considering the weight of the defeated and the "balance" of the participants! lol
    2. Pereira
      Pereira 24 March 2021 10: 03
      +11
      Quote: Dead Day
      never won.

      Well, of course! Grenada was defeated.
      1. Machito
        Machito 24 March 2021 10: 22
        +7
        And they don't have to win. Their goal is to bomb the country, destroy the country, create chaos, shoot old ammunition, test new weapons, and take control of the local elites.
      2. Vasilenko Vladimir
        Vasilenko Vladimir 24 March 2021 10: 43
        +7
        Quote: Pereira
        Well, of course! Grenada was defeated.

        at the same time, the Cuban builders were not sick of them there
    3. aleks neym_2
      aleks neym_2 24 March 2021 12: 14
      +1
      They choked on their vaunted "crap" at home, and the surplus is spread all over the world ... something resembles an overflowing pit of shit ...
    4. Vend
      Vend 24 March 2021 12: 20
      +3
      Quote: Dead Day
      American press: the USA stopped winning wars
      never won.

      It was once. USA won the Civil War. North bent South.
      1. Galleon
        Galleon 26 March 2021 10: 23
        0
        And California, New Mexico, Arizona, Nevada, Utah were taken away from Mexico not without objections. 2 years of war.
        https://topwar.ru/94425-kak-amerikancy-zahvatili-polovinu-meksiki.html
    5. Starover_Z
      Starover_Z 24 March 2021 19: 05
      0
      in Vietnam, Afghanistan and Iraq, where the United States was the losers in wars.

      This is even in the colonial wars, where there were practically no direct clashes with an enemy equal in armed forces!
      They fight only with multiple superiority, and even then until tangible losses ...
  2. grandfather_Kostya
    grandfather_Kostya 24 March 2021 09: 40
    +1
    The end did not justify the means? Snobbery will ruin America.
    1. Grandfather
      Grandfather 24 March 2021 10: 03
      +5
      Quote: grandfather_Kostya
      The end did not justify the means? Snobbery will ruin America.

  3. cniza
    cniza 24 March 2021 09: 41
    +8
    American press: the USA stopped winning wars


    What wars and when did the United States win?
    1. Uncle lee
      Uncle lee 24 March 2021 09: 58
      +6
      War of the North and South! fellow
      1. cniza
        cniza 24 March 2021 10: 08
        +5
        If at home then yes hi , they benefited from profits and increased global influence. but at the expense of robberies ...
        1. Uncle lee
          Uncle lee 24 March 2021 10: 10
          +1
          Quote: cniza
          at home

          This is the joke! hi
      2. Vasilenko Vladimir
        Vasilenko Vladimir 24 March 2021 10: 44
        0
        Quote: Uncle Lee
        War of the North and South!

        just lost if about the interests of the state
    2. Ruslan Sulima
      Ruslan Sulima 24 March 2021 10: 02
      +4
      What wars and when did the United States win?

      Civil war in 1861-1865.) And they won the Second World War, according to their statements)
      It’s a shame to see, by pushing such grandmothers into weapons, to get such a result that cannot be compared with the victory of the American financial system, which, let's be objective, is still the strongest in the world.
      1. cat Rusich
        cat Rusich 24 March 2021 23: 43
        +1
        Quote: Ruslan Sulima
        What wars and when did the United States win?

        Civil war in 1861-1865.) And they won the Second World War, according to their statements).
        War April 23-August 23, 1998 the United States against Spain.
        USA took from Spain Cuba, Philippines, about. Guam, Carolina, Mariana, Marshall Islands, Puerto Rico.
        Cuba and the Philippines later gained independence. (Cuba in 1902, Philippines in 1946)
    3. Grandfather
      Grandfather 24 March 2021 10: 04
      +5
      Quote: cniza
      American press: the USA stopped winning wars


      What wars and when did the United States win?

      the Indians were defeated ...
    4. saygon66
      saygon66 24 March 2021 21: 31
      0
      - War of Independence 1776 - 1789 And, in this case, the militia won the war against the regular troops!
      1. cat Rusich
        cat Rusich 24 March 2021 23: 47
        +1
        Quote: saygon66
        - War of Independence 1776 - 1789 And, in this case, the militia won the war against the regular troops!
        Another war of the United States against Britain in 1812-1815. Then the Britons burned down the White House ... but lost and could not take New Orleans.
  4. Trapp1st
    Trapp1st 24 March 2021 09: 42
    +7
    American press: the USA stopped winning wars
    Lawrence Korb did not stand his feet, the US army is quite successfully fulfilling the tasks set by corporations to plunder the weak. For example, in Syria, oil fields are controlled, and what else do they want ...
  5. Glory1974
    Glory1974 24 March 2021 09: 43
    +7
    When the USSR fought in Afghanistan, the US and China helped the Mujahideen with weapons, so the intensity of the military confrontation did not subside. What is stopping the Americans now? Who supplies weapons and ammunition? No one! Why then can't they win?
    Either the task of winning is not set, or the mind is really lacking.
    1. Grandfather
      Grandfather 24 March 2021 10: 05
      +2
      Quote: glory1974
      When the USSR fought in Afghanistan, the US and China helped the Mujahideen with weapons, so the intensity of the military confrontation did not subside. What is stopping the Americans now? Who supplies weapons and ammunition? No one! Why then can't they win?
      Either the task of winning is not set, or the mind is really lacking.

      to fight with poppy fields? you probably don't know a little ...
      1. Glory1974
        Glory1974 24 March 2021 13: 18
        +2
        in addition to poppy fields, there is also the construction of gas stations (the most expensive in the world), the supply of hammers for mountain conditions to the army for 1000 bucks, and much, much more.
        I am writing about this, that the task is not set to win. Therefore, resistance to the withdrawal of troops, because leaders of all ranks are deprived of a lot of money.
    2. Nyrobsky
      Nyrobsky 24 March 2021 11: 35
      +1
      Quote: glory1974
      Who supplies weapons and ammunition? No one!

      It seems that express caravans with weapons go from Pakistan, which at one time had a hand in the creation of the Taliban.
      Quote: glory1974
      Why then can't they win? Either the task of winning is not set, or the mind is really lacking.
      There is no united front in the classical sense, there are no fortified areas, there are no large military formations and weapons depots, in fact, pure partisanship. There is no possibility of striking Taliban life support facilities to deprive them of electricity or food. they have enough gasoline generator and flatbread. The Taliban are fighting with guerrilla methods, nibbling on mattresses and Kabulis from different sides, and military operations against them are the same as shooting sparrows from a cannon. Chasing every moped with a homeless man on an airplane is very expensive and does not lead to large losses that can force the bearded to lay down their arms. To win, you need to attract the Taliban to your side, which is impossible from the word at all. There are two options from here - 1) get out now, within the framework of the agreements reached, 2) hang on for another 20 years and throw another trillion dollars into the wind, with the dubious prospect of achieving at least some kind of victory and, again, getting out.
      1. Glory1974
        Glory1974 24 March 2021 13: 20
        0
        all this can be solved. I think that the monetary component comes first. It is beneficial for everyone to wash the loot there. Therefore, only large cities are controlled, the rest is redundant. Nobody conducts anti-partisan actions. Controlled chaos in action.
      2. Grits
        Grits 25 March 2021 03: 19
        +2
        Quote: Nyrobsky
        hang for another 20 years and throw away a few more trillion dollars, with the dubious prospect of achieving at least some kind of victory and, again, getting out.

        I prefer this option.
        First, the Taliban will have something to do and will not be distracted by the idea of ​​moving north.
        Secondly, the billions of dollars spent by pindo_stants in vain make me very happy and funny.
        Thirdly - I do not feel sorry for the Pindo_stan warriors at all - the more they put there, the more gratifying I am.
        1. Nyrobsky
          Nyrobsky 25 March 2021 11: 20
          +1
          Quote: Gritsa
          Quote: Nyrobsky
          hang for another 20 years and throw away a few more trillion dollars, with the dubious prospect of achieving at least some kind of victory and, again, getting out.

          I prefer this option.
          First, the Taliban will have something to do and will not be distracted by the idea of ​​moving north.
          Secondly, the billions of dollars spent by pindo_stants in vain make me very happy and funny.
          Thirdly - I do not feel sorry for the Pindo_stan warriors at all - the more they put there, the more gratifying I am.

          In principle, everything is correct, I agree with you. The more money they put into this senseless war, the less money they will spend on dirty tricks directed against Russia. hi
  6. Andrea
    Andrea 24 March 2021 09: 49
    +3
    And all because the goals are unsuitable.
  7. apro
    apro 24 March 2021 09: 53
    -2
    Yes?!?!? Of course I believe ... I myself am so. And cry .... and I can lie.
    And if seriously. Where did they win over the sga ??? where is that country in the calendar of which the date of the victory appeared.?
    There is no need for someone to repeat their stupidity and provocation. There are no objective reasons to consider the loser side.
  8. Mouse
    Mouse 24 March 2021 09: 56
    +4
    Is there this democracy in the United States itself?

    Democracy is a fairy tale for others ... under this guise it is more convenient to ruin and plunder ...
  9. TerraSandera
    TerraSandera 24 March 2021 09: 58
    +3
    Why should they win the wars they have created themselves. Controlled chaos has not been canceled. Why do they need a victory in order to restore order in these countries? Eliminating competitors, knocking out defense budgets, selling weapons to "allies" and much more.
  10. Slipper 2
    Slipper 2 24 March 2021 10: 01
    +1
    They won't shoot films, they are kind warriors there lol
  11. rocket757
    rocket757 24 March 2021 10: 13
    0
    The United States, arguably the militarily strongest state

    Is this so ???
    The richest, swollen to incredible sizes, and so on, so on.
    But whether they are the strongest is an uncertain question.
    1. Darkesstcat
      Darkesstcat 24 March 2021 11: 07
      +2
      The first in terms of number and manufacturability. And the amount of funds injected.
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 24 March 2021 11: 14
        0
        So everything is learned in comparison, in real life .. which is not necessary to check at all.
        Everything, everything they have, and then we will look.
        1. Darkesstcat
          Darkesstcat 24 March 2021 11: 16
          +2
          I mean that the ratio of forces is purely the United States on planes, ships, etc. exceeds many times. Including special weapons, etc. They can be considered the strongest militarily.
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 24 March 2021 11: 25
            -1
            Formally consider, not a question, with such a budget and developed industry, scientific potential, there will be no more, armed, everyone.
            Objectively, it will not work, we do not know, have not seen, have not tried, and the subjectivity of assessments interferes.
            Any doubts in favor ... and in whose favor?
            1. Darkesstcat
              Darkesstcat 24 March 2021 11: 42
              0
              I am in terms of the number of aircraft, ships, missiles. Technological superiority aside.
              1. rocket757
                rocket757 24 March 2021 12: 02
                -1
                Not all aircraft are flight-worthy, not all ships are combat-ready, and much more ... technological superiority, this is also not always the case.
                1. Darkesstcat
                  Darkesstcat 24 March 2021 13: 25
                  0
                  This is understandable, but still there is superiority.
                  1. rocket757
                    rocket757 24 March 2021 13: 44
                    0
                    There is, and they can preserve / increase it, theoretically, they can ... and then there are many questions to which we can get answers ... later.
  12. Vasilenko Vladimir
    Vasilenko Vladimir 24 March 2021 10: 42
    +2
    American press: the USA stopped winning wars
    and when did they win them ?!
    1. Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
      Paragraph Epitafievich Y. 24 March 2021 19: 24
      0
      Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
      and when did they win them ?!

      Poor fellows, how do they live without a victorious brace? Vegetate ... laughing
      Well, they have not won a single war, and they have been hegemonates for some ten years already. The Chinese go there too - they have not won a single war, but look - practically the first economy in the world. Maybe it's not about the braces and the military victories?
      1. Vasilenko Vladimir
        Vasilenko Vladimir 24 March 2021 22: 07
        0
        Quote: Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
        Maybe it's not about the braces and the military victories?

        certainly not in them ...
        but exactly before the first shot
  13. APASUS
    APASUS 24 March 2021 12: 13
    0
    Lawrence Korb makes a disappointing conclusion for American politicians and the military. He believes that the US military has long been unable to "spread democracy" in the world

    Democracy? Where did they establish democracy
  14. Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
    Paragraph Epitafievich Y. 24 March 2021 12: 15
    0
    USA stopped winning wars

    one hope for Hollywood.
  15. mojohed2012
    mojohed2012 24 March 2021 12: 21
    0
    The USA is about to rest, like the Roman Empire used to be. Already all objective terms, this empire, based on its specifics, has gone through. It's time to break up and give Texas independence. And it's time for the Redneck peasants to uncover their assault rifles and show Bidon and the Democrats that these are not assault rifles that should be banned, but that the power should be changed radically. And dispossessing their billionaires - to go the bright path to socialism and communism, well ... or there ... what they want - to that let them go!
  16. iouris
    iouris 24 March 2021 13: 41
    +1
    The United States has won all important wars. After that, the United States simply incites controlled wars in which there is no need to win.
  17. Growlers
    Growlers 24 March 2021 14: 01
    +1
    And that they once won wars? Well, except with the Indians, but the first and second world wars "around the neck" in Russia
    1. Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
      Paragraph Epitafievich Y. 24 March 2021 18: 52
      +1
      Quote: Growlers
      and World War II "around the neck" of Russia

      Firstly, not from Russia, but from the USSR, for that matter.
      And secondly - what the hell is "on the neck"? Does the USSR have such a long neck - for the entire Pacific Ocean?
      1. Growlers
        Growlers 25 March 2021 17: 26
        0
        Dear, the "neck" of the USSR is just long and reaches the Pacific Ocean. If you do not know why the Americans and the British so persuaded Stalin to enter the war in the Pacific Ocean, then study the question. At the same time, look at what grouping of Japanese troops the Red Army defeated. The Americans were so "confident" in their strength that they envisioned the occupation of Hokkaido by the USSR. But the Japanese broke down and this issue was no longer raised. And for the war in Europe, I recommend looking at the ratio of Hitler's troops against the Red Army and against the allies. It will immediately become clear who fought and who sat out, and who drove into paradise on whose hump. Except that the Americans, that the British. that in Africa, that in Europe, the Germans drove with "pissy rags" when the Red Army did not advance ... In this case, the allies were crushed like us in 1941 (both strategically and in terms of losses)
        1. Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
          Paragraph Epitafievich Y. 25 March 2021 23: 31
          0
          Quote: Growlers
          At the same time, look at what grouping of Japanese troops was defeated by the Red Army.

          The entire history of the "defeat" of the Quantum Army has been spread out into regiments. Who and what made Japan surrender is clear to everyone, including the hyperpatriots. Interpretations are different - this is as usual with everything and in everything with regards to WWII and the events around it.
          Quote: Growlers
          And for the war in Europe, I recommend

          Yes, thanks, I certainly don't need your recommendations. hi
          1. Growlers
            Growlers 27 March 2021 09: 17
            +1
            Well, since you are so self-sufficient, then one of the two, either clearly express your opinion or do not carry a "blizzard". Sorry for the harshness.
            1. Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
              Paragraph Epitafievich Y. 27 March 2021 09: 53
              0
              Quote: Growlers
              one of two things, either express your opinion clearly or do not carry a "blizzard".

              You, my dear, re-read your pretentious crap. That's really really a blizzard. With a grasping whistle.
              1. Growlers
                Growlers 27 March 2021 11: 22
                +1
                Oh well .......
                1. Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
                  Paragraph Epitafievich Y. 27 March 2021 11: 25
                  0
                  Quote: Growlers
                  Oh well .......

                  Yes Yes.
                  1. Growlers
                    Growlers 27 March 2021 16: 28
                    +1
                    You have a bazaar woman's syndrome, the last word should be yours .... So be it I will amuse your complexes.
                    1. Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
                      Paragraph Epitafievich Y. 27 March 2021 16: 53
                      -1
                      Quote: Growlers
                      You have bazaar woman syndrome

                      You poke around in your complexes and syndromes, my dear. You look, and you will cope without the intervention of a psychoanalyst.
  18. Wolf
    Wolf 24 March 2021 15: 06
    0
    And how to defeat the people who are ready to get used? Only GENOCIDE and the Americans did this with the Indians, then with the Japanese and yadernim strikes against Japan. And Hitler won like this GENOCIDE in the Second World War with the head of the Serbs, and then tried it with Ruski, Rabbi helped Hitler but ...... The war today does not serve to WIN, but what would "someone" do more dengue and the Americans do it.
    1. Wolf
      Wolf 24 March 2021 15: 29
      +2
      Just DO NOT DECEIVE YOURSELF, THEY ARE READY TO MAKE GENOCIDE TODAY !!! THEY ARE IN PLACE WITH THE GERMANS 1991-1999 DONE GENOCIDE OVER THE SERBIANS IN BIVSHOY YUUGOSLAVIA !!! EETNICHKI CLEANED SERBES FROM NAZI CROATIA ABOUT 500.000 SERBES HAVE BEEN EXCITED FROM THEIR HOUSES, AND HAVE LEFT TO KILL, IN BOSNIA A THREAD OF A SERB DID NOT REMAIN IN SARAJEVA, CLEANED, IN KOSOVO ALSO HAVE BEEN CLEANED BY YAROV IN THE WORLD !!! SO THEY DEFEATED THE SERBIANS BY THE GENOCIDE OF THE CIVIL POPULATION AND IT WAS 20 YEARS AGO ALMOST EVENING !!! MEANS THEY ARE READY AND TODAY TO WIN, UZ OF APPLICATION OF GENOCIDES OVER THE PEOPLES WHICH ARE READY TO BE ELECTED !!! IN THE 20TH CENTURY, 3 TIMES ETA GARBAGE WAS GENOCIDED OVER THE SERBIANS AND THE FEARS themselves !!! MUCH WORSE THAN YOU DID ABOVE JEWS IN EUROPE IN WWII !!! AND EVERYONE IS SILENT, DOING OUT THAT THERE WAS NOTHING ???
      SO DO NOT CHOOSE YOURSELF THEY ARE READY TO WIN THOSE. DO GENOCIDES AND TODAY! wink
      1. Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
        Paragraph Epitafievich Y. 24 March 2021 18: 53
        -1
        Quote: Wolf
        DO NOT CHOOSE YOURSELF

        You have a button caps lock sinks.
        1. Wolf
          Wolf 24 March 2021 18: 57
          0
          Yes every 24. MARCH OF 1999. !!!
    2. Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
      Paragraph Epitafievich Y. 24 March 2021 19: 50
      -2
      Quote: Wolf
      And Hitler won so GENOCIDE in the Second World War with the head of the Serbs

      Is it convenient to blame everything on Hitler? You are there, in the Balkans, and without him, you slaughtered each other with enthusiasm, it's enough to look for the extreme in Germany.
      Quote: Wolf
      American made it from Indians

      Enough of these hypocritical snot already. All mourners for Chingachgooks are not sorry for the Apaches, but the Yankees hate them so much that they cannot eat.
      Quote: Wolf
      otom with the Japanese and Yaderny strikes against Japan

      Did you feel sorry for the Japanese? They got theirs. And they learned the lesson. And "Kid" and "Fat Man" brought the war to a qualitatively new level. If the Soviets had their own product of their "Manhattan Project" in 1945, the Nazis would have tested it on their own skin - what, then, would they whine here about the "genocide of the German people"?
      1. Wolf
        Wolf 24 March 2021 20: 20
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        Well, well, do you really think that Stalin would have slammed Nuclear on Berlin? Why did Comrade Stalin not do an odd thing about Berlin to Dresden and simply burned the weight of Berlin with napalm. The Anglo-Saxons did it to Dresden? And that we are in the Balkans, who from the 5th column taught you what happened in the Balkans? Maybe 6 columns from England? The same thing happened on Bvlkany as in Ukraine, so that you no longer work for NATO. This means that in 1941 Hitler "helped" in fact, in a place with the Catholic Church, MAKE THE NAZISTIC STATE OF NDKH AND BASICALLY THE TASK OF THIS STATE WAS A SOLUTION TO THE SEIB QUESTION, THROUGH THE END OF THE LAGER! TIRED NAZIS HAVE LOST MORE THAN 1.500.000 Serbs at 42 Lager Locations in NDKH! The same thing happened in 1991 - 1999. Helmut Kohl and Genscher made a new Nazi ND CROATIA AND US HELP CLEANED THE SERBS IN CROATIA !!!
        So the US did the same with Ukraine ties EU aid and Ukrainian NAZIS directs in the war against Russia! Or perhaps I am mistaken and you there and without the USA and EU are decreasing each other? So enough NATO NAZI PROPAGANDA SOME OTHER NO LESS THIS CAN SELL IT! wink
        1. Wolf
          Wolf 24 March 2021 20: 30
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          And let's add the aggression of ORANGE in Vietnamese was there actually a crushing of the United States' mercy on the Vietnamese so that the forests grow better, or in Iraq they covered the people with a crane so that the Iraqis were born with 2 heads? And heroin in Afghanistan is doing what would heal people around the world for depression? Mix you the USA fine the deeper the power of the USA is worse than Hitler !!! Nobody talks about it!
          1. Wolf
            Wolf 24 March 2021 20: 36
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            Or I forgot, there was no napalm in Stalin and he could not turn Berlin into fire. You're right .
            1. Wolf
              Wolf 24 March 2021 20: 43
              +1
              And the caps lock button with a new fuse! THERE ARE NO BAD EVILS IN THE LAST 1.000 YEARS ON THE DEEP POWER OF THE ANGLOSAXES. As for Hitler, and blames him, there is no way you talk to Soltenberg, and Soltenberg says that Stalin is worse than Hitler! laughing
        2. Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
          Paragraph Epitafievich Y. 24 March 2021 20: 44
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          Quote: Wolf
          Why did Comrade Stalin not do an odd thing about Berlin to Dresden and simply burned the weight of Berlin with napalm?

          Because Comrade Stalin simply did not have a bomber fleet comparable to the Allied. And with what was, there could be no talk of any carpet bombing. As well as the effect of the "fire tornado".
          Quote: Wolf
          Or perhaps I am mistaken and you there and without the USA and EU are decreasing each other?

          Yes, I do not care what is there in Ukraine. I don't care about her.
          Quote: Wolf
          TIRED NAZIS LOST MORE THAN 1.500.000 Serbs

          Well, yes, but Hitler is to blame? That the NGH copied the ideology of the Nazis, or what? So the Khmer Rouge also copied the communist ideology, so that they killed 2 million with hoes - is Mao to blame?
          1. Wolf
            Wolf 24 March 2021 20: 47
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            Comrade Stalin had everything he needed in 1945 to burn the weight of Berlin, if no one told you I will help you! wink
            1. Wolf
              Wolf 24 March 2021 20: 48
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              And how do you not care what happens to your people in Ukraine, who are you really?
              1. Wolf
                Wolf 24 March 2021 20: 51
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                NDKH was and was created on the basis of HITLER'S NAZISM, HAD THE IDEOLOGY OF GENOCIDE EQUAL TO HITLER'S AND HITLER'S HELP WAS DOING IT! wink
            2. Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
              Paragraph Epitafievich Y. 24 March 2021 20: 50
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              Quote: Wolf
              if no one told you I will help you!

              Yes nafig, somehow I can manage without the nonsense of a fanatic Comrade Stalin.
              1. Wolf
                Wolf 24 March 2021 20: 55
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                So after Ivan the Great (the terrible) there was no such VLADAR. In Russia, you can freely say that Stalin saved the state Kotor was created by Ivan Veliki. So all the Vladari between them lived on the foundations that IVAN THE VELIKI made!
                1. Wolf
                  Wolf 24 March 2021 21: 03
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                  And what concerns Comrade Stalin, it is a pity that he did not visit Paris 1945 as 1814. laughing This did not happen because the United States made an invasion of Normandie in 1944, not to fight against Hitler, but to stop Comrade Stalin! smile
          2. Galleon
            Galleon 26 March 2021 10: 35
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            Quote: Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
            Because Comrade Stalin simply did not have a bomber fleet comparable to the Allied.

            1944 ADD of the Red Army Air Force consisted of 66 air regiments, united in 22 air divisions and 9 corps, which was approximately 1000 long-range bombers
            - taken from here - https://proza.ru/2015/05/08/1024
            Argue, but don't lie, Dormidont Sigismundovich.
    3. cat Rusich
      cat Rusich 25 March 2021 00: 04
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      Quote: Wolf
      ... And Hitler won so GENOCIDE in the Second World War with the head of the Serbs,.
      To complete the picture ...
      On March 25, 1941, the government of Yugoslavia (Tsvetkovic's cabinet) signed the Vienna Protocol and Yugoslavia joined the "Berlin Pact" ...
      On March 27, the government was overthrown ... but the fact Yugoslavia's accession to the "Triple Pact" (Axis countries) WAS ... (the treaty was not ratified, but ... was)
      1. Wolf
        Wolf 25 March 2021 15: 37
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        Yes, the government of Cvetkovic Maczek signed the Vienna Protocol on 25 March 41. So with the head STATE WHAT? AND WHOM DOES THE STATE BELONG TO? The state today is a people on a certain territory with internationally recognized borders and with laws alone at the top of the constitution. The state belongs to the PEOPLE, not the GOVERNMENT. The fact that the government signed without the consent of the people is worth a lot and that paper, and 2 days have passed, and their agreement was used for its intended purpose as a paper. In Belgrade, 27. March, the people who owned the state were hanging on the street and ...... the Viennese protocol and the Berlin Pact lived for 2 days.
        But I do not remember that then in 1941 when Hitler was at the top of the possibility THREAD ONE PEOPLE IN EUROPE WASHELD ON THE STREET AND RASTORG CONTRACT WITH HITLER OR AGAINST THE SIGNED CAPITULATION TO THEIR GOVERNMENTS?
        If you know help? Maybe the Franks took to the Street, Norwegians, Swedes, Italiansi, Rumkni, Bulgarians, Hungarians, Czechs Polaki, Belgiansi, Dachani?
        For this probably NATO (Hitler's heirs) and started the 3rd World War from the Serbs in 1999.
        I can only be proud of my people that under the mortal threat I did not become an accomplice of the BIG EVILS NOR 1914, NOR 1941 NOR 1991-1999G.
        They suffered a lot, but in life they eat the border that the threads of the people, the threads of the people, at the price of death, should not step over.
        1. Wolf
          Wolf 25 March 2021 15: 45
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          Yes, in Asia, then Koreytsi, and then Vietnamtsi did the same, and this is good hope for humanity.
  19. Alf
    Alf 24 March 2021 16: 46
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    why the US stopped winning wars.

    And when did America WIN the war?
  20. Prisoner
    Prisoner 24 March 2021 17: 50
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    what Did they win them? I must have missed something.
  21. shinobi
    shinobi 26 March 2021 16: 15
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    Well, you have to! Become clear! Looks like the loss to hush up already simply does not come out.